Not even four years and it already hit the 60M mark. What went right?

Gaming became a hobby for normalfags.

>>378532657
Wii U and Xbox One being failures

>>378532657
>What went right?
No real competitor

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>>378532657
Nothing went "right".
It just went as usual.

PS1 outsold the Wii, toppled the previous giant (Nintendo) by getting 3x the sales and this was their first entry into the market. The closest thing to a company like Sony doing the same was Panasonic and look how that went.

Right after that they made the best selling console of all time, including portables. Yes the PS2 outsold the DS. 155-ish million and that's just a low estimate.

PS3 is the ONLY bad exception, selling about 83million. The worst Sony has ever done in the homeconsole market and guess what: That's more than every Nintendo homeconsole except for the Wii.

So yeah, PS4 selling 60m by now is only natural. I love how people pretend like this generation was the exception of Sony's homeconsole success with shitty excuses like >>378533056 or >>378533847 , if those are true then how do you justify PS1's and PS2's even greater success? Are you going to say the N64, Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox were complete pieces of shit too and that there was no competition?

TL;DR: pic related.

>>378532657

Normies who buy every iPhone, watch nothing but blockbuster movies and The Walking Dead, and only read the #1 book

>What went right
sales
>what wen wrong
games

>>378532904
>>378534197
>>378534316
Have to agree, sadly.

Also geek culture (which included videogames) got normified in the middle of last gen. Normies went from causal Wii playing or sports games to play shooters and 3rd person action games.

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>>378532904
Sony always wins baby

>>378532657

Bloodborne and Persona 5, I guess.

>>378534079
>Are you going to say the N64, Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox were complete pieces of shit too and that there was no competition?

You forgot based Sega Saturn.

>>378535747
Right, two games that sold sub-2 million and have a large overlap in players are responsible for 60 million consoles sold.

>>378533056
This is actually the real reason.

>nintendo console sells well
>haha nintendomination xd
>sony console sells well
>ree fucking normies

>>378532904
When has it never not been?

Before the Wii the PS2 epitomized normie box, selling over 150M units. Wii was next to follow that trend followed by smart devices there after. There literally is nothing wrong casual gaming. They're the one's keeping gaming afloat.

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>>378535825
so did everyone else.

actually loved the fucking thing. Played it all the time over a friend's house. I remember playing demo disks, Die Hard, a weird Dragonball fighting game, a platformer with an erotic-sounding bunny girl, Nights, Daytona and a bunch of other shit

>>378532657
>>378533056
This.

Mostly, the competition did everything wrong.

The ps4 had nothing in its favour. Nintendo and microsoft just fucked up a lot.

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$100 less than xbone at launch

They both had no games and when it hit 30 million, xbox announced bc and still lost with the price drop

>>378532657
Their stock was tanking for a while, nice to see them back in the no games

>>378532657
It has a blu ray player and fifa

>>378532904
>he believes the false dichotomy of "normies" in 2017

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>>378532657

>>378536083
It's wrong because it forces /v/ to acknowledge gaming is a multi-billion dollar global industry and not a secret club for NEETs and wizards.

>>378532657
It has games and best price to quality ratio.

FIFA

Call of duty

it's literally because yurotrash. without the fifaland sales, PS4 numbers are nothing spectacular.

>>378534079
>Are you going to say the N64, Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox were complete pieces of shit too and that there was no competition?
They all had reasons to fail.
N64 was outdated
The dreamcast didnt had games and was all over the place with shit
The gamecube was good but focused on graphics rather than substance
The xbox was a first timer competing against giants

>>378536157
>>378536191
Available on Xbox One and Origin.

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>>378534079
>The worst Sony has ever done in the homeconsole market and guess what: That's more than every Nintendo homeconsole except for the Wii.

>>378536313
Fifa is a sony exclusive?

>>378536338
it's the advertisement you fucking retard, no one is going buy a xbox one for fifa in europe

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>>378535747
>This delusion

99% of ps4 owners couldn't give a fuck about those games and don't even know what they are.

>>378536338
no one in europe or south america owns an xbox
and no one plays fifa on the fucking PC


you don't understand normies

>>378532904
Yea in the fucking 90s.

>>378536313
>yurotrash
Why so mad?
>without the fifaland sales, PS4 numbers are nothing spectacular.
Considering the fact that it outsold competition in every part of the world you are objectively wrong.

Why normies buy a Switch one Fifa is available?

>>378536338
Europe doesn't give a fuck about some shit American console

PlayStation has been marketed with football for 3 decades here.

>>378536403
>ninten-drone
>neogaf
Everytime.

>>378536463
The PS4 is a flop in Japan

>>378536457
Be quiet, let him be, he needs the delusion.

>>378536548
Average post by a sony guy right here

>>378532657
the DS did the same thing and it was pretty terrible
3ds did also reach 60M after 4 years (about to reach 70M soon)

>>378536664
>best selling 8th gen home console
>flop

Are you clinically retarded?

>>378536403
This is like the fifth time I've seen this pic with the same filename and all, do nintendorks have nothing else to do than stalk sonyfags? Why aren't they playing gam-oh wait

>>378536749
>In Japan

Are you?

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>>378536313

>Being this mad at Europe because they refuse to buy your kiddy leap frog tablet

>>378536778
Yes, it's best selling 8th gen home console in Japan. Looks like you are clinically retarded.

>>378536778
Not him, but """Japan""""

Broaden your horizons a bit more. There's a whole world outside Nipponland.

Unless anyone here is a sony shareholder I dont see how this is relevant.

I buy games and systems to play shit I want to play. Getting personally invested in a brand is stupid. Sure smells like applefags in here.

>>378536664
>>378536778
The best selling console on Japan was the wiiu until a few months ago, now the ps4 is the best selling console there how is it a flop? Also if it's a flop then how come all devs are making games for it?

>>378532657
They didn't shoot themselves in the foot like the other 2 companies, they announce lots and lots of vaporware in every E3, and a lot of retards fell for the marketing.

>>378536927
Switch is doing better

>>378536972
It's completely fine to dick stroke Switch numbers and shill the ever living fuck out of Nintendo, but god forbid you do it for another company,

>>378536927
When competing with the Xbone in Japan that sells 100 units a week and WiiU which was also a flop that's not saying much.

It sold 4 million units in 4 years. The Vitas sold better and it's a fucking abortion.

The switch will pass PS4 Japan sales in no time but it doesn't have the privilege of being a fucking Fifa box for worldwide domination

>>378537015
>how is it a flop
Less total sales than the vita in Japan

>>378536664
Why do you faggots constantly slurp the dick hairs of nips so much? Why when bringing up Switch numbers do you isolate all other regions besides Japan?

>>378536453
Shooters, Sports, GTA.. They're all targeted towards children and their parents buying the console and games for them. Bloodborne is for the mature audience, where there's less of an audience.

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>>378536927
Conveniently not comparing it to the Vita and 3DS LMAOOOO

>>378537153
I agree with you, /v/ is a little nintendogaf now but that's only to be expected when a new console was recently released.

There should be boards for different systems and leave /v/ as a general board for shit containment

>>378537295
Why won't you admit 90% of PS4s sales are due to call of duty and Fifa and not because the owners care about videogames?

>>378537146
What part of 8th gen home console you can't understand? Switch just launched. WiiU was doing better at first too.

>>378537236
>being best selling system is flop
>Switch will beat it this time because I said so

Why Nintendo autists are always so butthurt?

>>378537326
>comparing home console sales
>BUT WHAT ABOUT HANDHELDS LOL
that guy is right, you are retarded

>>378537318
Ok? So you're saying Bloodborne and Persona ARENT the reasons PS4 hit 60m despite your original post claiming it was the reason.

>>378532657
>What went right?

European footballfags.

>>378537153
>Actually got banned for stating that the XBone sold more than double the Wii U in a Microsoft hate thread
If you ever wanted more confirmation of the bias of Nintendo on this board there it is.

>>378537391
>care about videogames
No one cares about videogames, people care about what they like and what they want to play. Stop being retarded.
>I-I-I care about videagaems

>>378537015
>PS4 Japan sales : 4.2 million as of January
>WiiU Japan sales: 3.3 million as of January 2017
>PS4 launched 2/22/2014
>WiiU launched 12/08/2012

and how about those software sales

oh right

its all shit

>>378537494
Sure. It's general knowledge

>>378537453
Yeah he's only comparing home console sales in the first place to avoided direct comparison to the much better sales of two other systems you fucking imbecile.

"Look PS4 is doing the best in Japan!.... If I arbitrarily add these restrictions to get that result!"

>>378537272
>Handheld outsells console
And water is wet

>>378532657
best hardware
compelling launch price compared to Xbox One
PS3 ended the generation a lot stronger than the 360 did, games like TLOU got people hyped for the future of Playstation
has all the 3rd party games that people buy consoles for

If Xbox One launched at $399 with no Kinect it would probably have been a lot more competitive. I don't think it would have sold better than the PS4 but the lead probably wouldn't be 2:1.

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>>378537326
Better yet let's compare the 3DS to the PS4. Regardless of the 3DS being out for two years with a price drop, the full priced PS4 managed to outpace it in less than four years.

Let's talk about how the 3DS is Nintendo's worst selling handheld, or how the Vita outsold the Wii U.

>>378537473
Not him, but Bloodborne and Persona sold like shit compared to the userbase of the system. PS4 is the Wii of its generation. Only the dirtiest of casuals have one.

>>378537473
Oh I'm not that same anon. But JP games were one of the main reasons I bought my PS4.

>>378537326
>Nintendo autists failed in argument so they compared it to handhelds that are years more on market

Lmao

>>378537391
>PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT GAMES BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT GAMES I DON'T LIKE
I swear this fucking board

>>378537659
>H-HANDHELDS DO NOT COUNT BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT MY NARRATIVE! DELETE THAT!
Pathetic.

>>378537687
>person who buys a PS4 to just play spawts and cawadoody
>gamer

guess people who read magazines are the same as people who read literature now

after all they're both reading rite :^)

>>378537583
Pretty sure comparing home consoles to home consoles is normal. Sorry it makes your asshurt because PS4 dominated that market.

>>378537272
japs are all about their handhelds though.

>>378537740
>comparing handhelds to home consoles
>shouts in capslock

What a butthurt retard

>>378537608
Literally every system gets a price drop so nice failed attempt at 1 upping me bro.

Also "worst selling ever" would sound a bit harsher had nintendo handhelds not been some of the best selling videogame systems of all time.

>>378537583
Well then I guess the 3ds is a flop every country except Japan since the ps4 always outsells it every month
My god you're stupid

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nothing

>>378537687
I guess everyone that plays Candy Crush on their phone is a super hardcore gamer that cares about this hobby right?

>>378537851
And cellphones outsold 3DS in Japan, lol it flopped even there.

>>378537773
And what excuse will you make when Switch outsells PS4 in Japan despite PS4 being out 4 years earlier? Kek

>>378537770
>I got told hard so ill just come up with a shitty analogy to hide my asspain
This guy

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Sony Japan makes the best lineup trailers. No matter how much you hate Sony, at least watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tLc5nhS_yY

>>378537770
>comparing a normie hobby like playing video games with cultural enrichment
Go back to 9gag you fucking fedora tipping faggot

>>378537851
No they're both a success. FIFA just made PS4 a massive success.

Still doesn't make PS4 not a flop in Japan.

>>378538023
>shitty analogy
>cant refute it

:thinking:

>>378538016
>when
I don't need any excuse since I'm using facts, you predictions out of butthole after proven wrong in subject.

>>378537920
>videogames
>hobby
I guess watching tv is a hobby too also the industry won't collapse because people buy the new Madden on day one

>>378537846
At $169.99 the 3DS should've obliterated the $399.99 PS4 during that time span. It's predicted that the PS4 will surpass the 3DS by this year.

And yes almost six years in and the 3DS is Nintendo's WORST selling handheld, discounting the Virtual Boy for obvious reasons. The Game Boy Advance and DS covered far more ground given the same amount of time.

>>378538118
kek he doesn't deny being BTFO this is hilarious

>>378538136
Using facts.

Like the fact 3DS and Vita sold better than PS4 and ps4 is flopping in Japan? That Switch is outpacing all these systems? Those facts.

Haven't you the latest FIFA to preorder cuck boy?

>>378538167
>being this retarded

sad

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>>378538092
ur a flop in japan

61 million PS4s sold. How much longer til it surpasses the 3DS? What's the 3DS at now? 67 million?

Think it'll overtake it before the end of the year?

>>378537146
No it's not.

>>378538092
>best selling home console
>beat Nintendo despite being less on market
>flop

I'm Nintendo fan like you and I would like this would be truth though...

>>378538016
Probably the same excuse you made when that didn't happened with the WiiU.

Blaming muh casuls and bitching about taking video games srisly

>>378538246
>can't refute
:thinking:

>>378538167
Watching TV is a hobby. Why wouldn't it be?

>>378538294
>literally copying people

sad

>>378533056
This, I still remember all the blacklash and migrations from xboxone to ps4 after the internet found out the shitty ideas microsoft had for their new console.
I still remember Sony just mocking them with their "this is how you share a game in the ps4" thing in stage. All they had to do was point out how conventional their system was but with better power.

>>378538201
>At $169.99 the 3DS should've obliterated the $399.99 PS4 during that time span. It's predicted that the PS4 will surpass the 3DS by this year.

Thanks to FIFA and CoD lol

>>378532657
you inherited the wii kids that wanted to feel like grown ups by buying the black shiny one next

>>378532657
Marketing.
Normies ate it up and bought one on a massive scale to play the next CoD, FIFA and GTAV with their friends.

>>378538331
>still can't refute
>gets mad when people use the same insults as him
sad

>>378538239
Vita and 3DS are handhelds you idiot and longer on market. You can talk about Switch when it will exceed PS4 sales.

>cuck boy

Why are you so mad because PS4 won in Japan?

>>378537846
And yet the Sony home consoles totally wreck the Nintendo handhelds in terms of sales. PS2 TOTALLY DOMINATES the DS.

>>378537318
>Bloodborne is for the mature audience
pffft AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>378538294
You cant refute ad hominems anon :)
Don't pretend to understand words like "argument" and "refute" and you're clearly an idiot

>>378532904
>>378533056
>>378533847
>>378538381
All of these.
Thread closed.
Go home lads.

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>>378532657
Solid exclusives, it's not fucking rocket science. Give people a good reason to buy your product, learn from the past and make this one affordable and you will probably see some decent success.

It also helps if your competition is fucking retarded.

>>378538451
>pffft
9faggots

>>378538453
>:)
Is there a more blatant sign someone is seething because they lost an argument?

>>378538434
>Now comparng systems of different generations

Wii and DS btfo PS3 and psp cuck faggot

>>378538368
>Implying that Fire Emblem and Monster Hunter aren't the nippon equivalent.

>>378538368
>t-that doesn't count
I guess the Wii didn't won last gen because their main audience was soccer moms who bought it for Wii sports

>>378538565
If you use 4chanx you can see that was my first reply to you fuckwit. Grasp more straws. So fucking desperate

>>378538368
And Nintendo thanks to Mario and Pokemons lol

>>378538618
>[3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 04/20/17) – 131,668 (New)
>131,668

lmao

>>378538368
lol

>>378538705
Those are for REAL gamers, such as myself, that care about video games for the artistic medium it is. Not for normies that play football and fuck cindys

>>378538596
>muh blue ocean stategy

Only time Nintendo is ever successful is when they're not making videogames, what a surprise. They should just leave the industry.

Meanwhile, the combined total of Sony home consoles totally BTFOs the combined total of Nintendo's most successful products, their handhelds.

Sony consoles > Nintendo handhelds
Sony consoles > Nintendo consoles

>>378538201
literally because of europe

just look at the numbers. the 3DS btfo's the PS4 in ever region except europe and "other"(which is also fifa territory)

Europe is Sonyland. It's always been that way. i don't really blame them, nintendo and sega treated europe as an after thought all through the 90s, as far as most yuropoors are concerned, the PS1 was the first console.

>>378538783
>only games I played are normal and real

You realize how mentally challenged you sound or don't?

>>378538867
Out of curiosity, what's your nationality?

>>378538693
At least the games that sold were actual games like Mario Kart, Galaxy and Smash. Not fucking Fifa 14, FIFA 15, FIFA 16 lol

People on this site will talk about the top 10 best selling Wii games ever while Sony cucks will pretend and ignore the ps4 best selling because it's embarrassing as fuck

>>378538867
>the 3DS btfo's the PS4 in ever region except europe

No, it sells better in America too.

What can we do about it Nintendo bros? It's not fucking fair too...

>>378538783
Nice shit post. Uncharted 4 and The Last f Us sold well on PS4, but you'd probably say it doesn't count because 'movie.' You're probably the only gamer smart enough not to buy it, and blah, blah, blah.

>>378538703
Looks like someone is upset, it's ok junior one day you'll win an argument

>>378538867
Then how come 3DS is only at 65 million after 7 years? while

>>378538952
Why Mario Kart and Mario Galaxy is "real game" but GTAV/CoD and Fifa are not? Explain.

>>378538870
It's truth anyway. Mario and pokemon are obviously real games for real gamers. Even if you dont like them you can agree in this. We have no trouble saying mobile games are for casuals and not real games, we know this, so we can say the same when comparing classics and proper games like mario and pokemon to final fantasy and shooty-shooty-bang-bang """games"""

>>378538792
And it only cost Sony billions in losses to do it

LMAOOOOOOOO nintendo actually make money faggot cuck boy!!! While Sony sink every penny they ever made on the PS2 into the black hole of finances called ps3 and the abortion that was the Vita hahahaha

>>378538952
>>378538783

I thought PC warriors are most autistic. I apologize. Nintendo drones take the cake.

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>>378538923

>>378538952
>t-those games don't count b-because REEEEEEEEEE
This is why no one takes Nintendofags seriously

>>378538867
Sega was most popular in Europe in the 90s though. Mega Drive sold well here

>>378539010
Nice deflection lel.
Again, dont use words like argument when you're replying like a 3rd grader.

>>378539127
No, without lying now anon.
You know why I'm saying this, come on now, just say it.

>>378539156
sssh you already shed too many tears leave with what's left of your dignity

>>378539034
>>378539110
>>378539143
Feel free to point me to a FIFA thread on /v/?

Oh there's never fucking been one? Ok.

You know fucking damn well FIFA is gay shit but you're arguing for the sake of arguing to pathetically try to win an argument because you are a fanboy cuck

>>378539076
Is this real or he just pretending to be retarded?

>nintendobros being fucking autistic as usual.
When will you grow up, when.

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>>378539082
You're right.

Nintendo make money, but they don't make good games anymore.

They make QoL software and happy meal toys. Sony might not make the most profits, but at least I have games to play, and I'm not shitting my pants on /v/ shilling Nintendo's latest gimmick machine, and pretending it's any good.

Have fun shitposting over profits and promises these next 4 years, manchild.

>>378539082
>I care about what multimillon company makes more money
Oh wow people are right, Nintendo fanboys are truly the most autistic

>>378539248
>there is no thread of FIFA on /v/ so it's not real games!
>it's gay shit!!!!!

How old you are actually?

>>378539260
Is being sarcastic bit what he's saying is true.

Mario games are some of the all time classics of videogames.

Fifa is not.

>>378539076
you're actually not serious about what you're saying right?

>>378539359
30.

>>378539248
>Feel free to point me to a FIFA thread on /v/?
Are you honestly using /v/ as a measure to see if a game is a game? You just went from desperate to outright pathetic

>>378539228
Next you'll be saying mom jokes.

Lel so much for the
>im using arguments u guis i really am

This isnt your ghetto, but I'm glad you stopped pretending to be using "arguments".

>>378539395
Pretty sure question is what do you count as real games not how old they are. You missed point completely or another Nintendo drone.

>>378539327
>You're right.
At long last you admit it.

>They make money
Fact. More than sony too.

>They don't make good games anymore
Super cool opinions bro. Please move along sony fagboy. I'm done with you.

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>>378538271
Yes, it is

>>378539487
Sheesh dude calm down it's just a silly argument no need to get so upset

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>What went right?
-Video games for a lot of varied tastes and markets.
-Solid hardware for the price.
-No forced gimmicks.

Basically PS2 2.0 more or less.

>>378539347
You say as you literally brag about how much product they sell? It's the same thing you brain-dead pussy.

>>378539260
>>378539423
You're both actually trying to deny that when it comes to classics and what truly represents gaming and gamers people dont talk about mario and pokemon, just to name 2 nintendo ips, right off the bat?

>>378539526
>More than sony too.

Source?

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>>378539327
That pic is fucking perfect, love it.

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>>378539435
He meant mentally, not physically. We all know you're a 30y.o kissless virgin neckbeard in Mario cosplay.

>>378539469
Look at all those FIFA, angry birds and Clash of clans threads we have!

You actually unironically know what I'm saying. You know the point I'm trying to make and you know full well that I'm right too hahahaha fucking cuck keep lying to yourself.

>>378539435
>30 years old and still taking part on consolewars and autistic arguments on whether a game is a game
Man it feels good to know I'll never be this sad of a human being

>>378539327
I like all the PC games on there bro.
Maybe Nintendo guy should have got a PC?

5/10 i enjoyed your secret PC master race post disgused as PS4 fanboi post.

>>378539547
No it's not. There are more PS4s sold in Japan, than Switches.

>>378539594
No you fucking autist we were just laughing at you because you called Mario and Pokemon real games and Fifa not real game. No need to move goalposts because you feel ashamed now.

>>378539435
I really fucking hope you're joking

>>378539504
>Classic = old

You really have the iq of a nigger don't you?

>>378539604
cause it tru

>>378539735
Only because it's been out for far longer.
Switch is doing a lot better and will overtake the PS4

>>378533056
This more than anything else

Great exclusives and decent versions of multiplats, though PC is still easily king for those.
Overall just a good package if you like Japanese games, even if you have a PC.

>>378539694
Oh god I think we broke him looks like his childish beliefs on what a game is getting shattered were too much for him

>>378539792
It won't.

>>378539712
It's not his fault that third party shits on Nintendo and love Sony.

>>378539792
lol

>>378539596
They made more money in 2009 Wii profit alone than Sony have in the past 12 years.

Thanks to the ps3 being a multi billion dollar blackhole kek

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>>378539848
You bet it will

Microsoft shat on themselves, Nintendo a non competitor

>>378539739
Fifa is not a real game. Sorry, it's a rehashed yearly toy for a very specific demographic. There's no art, intention, purpose aside from a quick buck.

If fifa is a real game then so is candy crush

>>378539712
>Gravity rush, Niho, Yakuza and P5 are on PC.
Oh, you little desperate, dishonest, autistic drone.

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>>378539792

>>378534079
why didn't chad daddy cash in on the ecleb fad

>>378539735

>1 million switch in Japan in 2 months
>4.4 million PS4 in Japan in 4 years

Oh dear.

>>378539779
>classic = real game
>game I don't consider classic or it's not nintendo = non real game

You really have iq of an ape don't you?

>classic =/= old

Jesus

>>378532657
How's the Pro doing, pham?

>>378539878
And yet Sony is comfortably dominating the scene, while Nintendo had to desperately release a second 8th gen console and pretend the WiiU didn't exist.

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>>378539712
Can you please direct me to the steam pages for Bloodborne, Persona 5, and Yakuza?

>>378539972
The funniest thing is that botw is actually on PC.

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>>378537494
Maybe you should've been discussing Disgaea pre-order sales instead.

>>378539963
I guess Pokemon isn't a real franchise either.

>>378539920
Keep dreaming fanboy.

It won't.

>>378539878
I asked for source. We were also talking about present time. So where is it?
>>378539963
Considering this logic Mario is not real game either.

>>378540143
>presented with fact after fact
>n-no it won't

lel whatever, got better things to do than play your babysitter

>>378540015
>1 million switch in Japan in 2 months

Just like the WiiU, that's not impressive.

PS4 by comparison started super weak in Japan and is now accelerating in sales thanks to Jap exclusives.

>>378540015
4mln vs 1 mln

PS4 literally destroyed Switch.

>>378540029
Wait... Do you really think classic means old?

>>378539963
>FIFA is not a real game because I said so
This is like hearing a hobo on the street spouting nonsense
>if FIFA is a game then so is candy crush
But it is, it's just Bejeweled with a different coat of paint or are you going to take the final leap on delusion and say Bejeweled is not a real game either?

>>378540057
>Ignores they abandoned the Vita after 2 years in the market

>>378540247
>fact

No, it's fairy tale. You talking about things that don't exist. You have no arguments so you make them up.

>>378540247
>lel whatever, got better things to do than play your babysitter
Sure, go make your next media create thread while you beg for WiiU ports cause you've got no games to play on your overpriced Fisher Price tablet.

>>378539792
In the same span of time after release, the PS4 doubled the Switch's sales.

>>378540351
And yet the Vita still outsold the WiiU. And the PS3 outlived the Wii and WiiU combined.

>>378540261
Thing have to be old to be classic. It's requirement. Why are you so dumb?

>>378540123
>>378540154
Both mario and pokemon games are vastly different and they are made with intention and purpose, not just yearly greed. Funny how so many say the same about assassins creed but when it comes to recognize something that's different, that actually honors gaming, you fucks attack it because it's not from your favorite console brand.

>>378532657
Nothing in particular. Nintendo and Microsoft selfdestructed.

>>378540474
Yeah Sony making PS2s and PS3s for ages because poor shits in Brazil can't afford anything better to play fifa on is really important to me

>>378540496
No they don't you fucking retarded cunt. Ever heard of "instant classic"

It's not a measure of time you fucking inbred mongoloid.

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>>378540351
The vita got more games in 2017 than the WiiU.

>>378540503
>Pokemon
>the franchise that LITERALLY rehashes itself yearly
>not made with yearly greed
LOL
>Mario
>we're just gonna pretend we didn't get FOUR NSMB games in a span of 3 years
kek

>>378540540
Love seeing you throwing blame left and right

>>378540503
This right here is some classic self-dilusion. Not even either of the guys you're replying to.
Do you nonironically think Pokemon is not a rehash?

>>378540503
>Both mario and pokemon games are vastly different and they are made with intention and purpose, not just yearly greed.


Yes, it's like they made them not to make money on them.

>you fucks attack it because it's not from your favorite console brand.

Pretty sure it's you who said that most popular PS4 games are not real games. I never said Nintendo games are not games. Think what I write from time to time. It's not hard.

It is barely 3 years old. It launched in Nov 2013, so basically 2014. We are still at the beggining of 2017.
So its basically 3 and a half.

>>378540503
>are made with intention and purpose, not just yearly greed

Wait, what intention?

>>378540516
>having to cherry pick Japanese sales to feel good about your poor purchasing decisions

Lol.
>a fool and his money are quickly parted

>>378540503
>videogames aren't made for greed
>FUCKING POKEMON isn't made with greed on their minds
Sure that's why they don't split the game in two to make play an incomplete experience unless you have a friend to trade or buy both version, that's why they don't release a special edition of the same game one year later, sure they don't make Pokemon with greed on their minds

Holy fuck why is it so hard for Sony fanboys to acknowledge the PS4 is such a success because of Fifa?

Yes, it gets continued support and lots of other great games because it's been successful but to straight up pretend that the majority of its total sales aren't from Fifa bundles is straight up delusional.

I just read a post above saying ps4 sold 60 million units because if Bloodborne and Persona 5. Persona fucking 5. That game that came out like a month ago.

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>>378540689
>rehashes itself yearly

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>>378540503
>Both mario and pokemon games are vastly different and they are made with intention and purpose, not just yearly greed

>>378540889
Pokemon has essentially been the same game since 1995.

>/v/ never shuts up about bloodborne
>when the ps4 has sold 60 million while bloodborne has sold less than splatoon, a wii u game
I'm so confused.

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>>378540614
The Apple app store got more games this year than every system combined?

What's your point you fucking dumb cunt?

Oh wait. You think that means the systems good? KEK.

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>>378540503
>Both mario and pokemon games are vastly different

>>378540870
>I just read a post above saying ps4 sold 60 million units because if Bloodborne and Persona 5.
I don't see that post, quote it.

>>378540689
>>378540720
>>378540727
The fact is that mario, zelda, pokemon and many other nintendo ips are classics, that would be missed if somehow disappeared from earth. They are the same ip sure they're going to look similar.
Graphics are different, mechanics are different, story is different, art direction is different. There's effort put into those series, it's not a reskin of assets.
The truth is that games like fifa gta dark souls and generic power trips for manly man are spat out with minumal effort, ridden with bugs and lazyness, and when those games are gone, no one will remember them.

>>378540974
>you can't talk only about games that sell more than 3 milion
>I'm so confused

No you are so autistic.

>>378540853
You're the one getting upset about it you cuck faggot

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>>378540974
bloodborne sold less than zelda botw

>>378540824
Make good games that respect gaming and gamers.

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No.. NO!

>>378541090
Also, Zelda OOT, and StarFox have been literally remade countless times.

OoT
Orginal on the 64
Master Quest on GCN
Twilight Princess
OoT 3D
Twilight Princess HD

StarFox
Original on the SNES
Lylat Wars on 64
StarFox 3DS
StarFox Zero on WiiU

>>378541090
Everyone agrees then "New" series is rehashed shit.

64/Sunshine/Galaxy/3D are all vastly different my brethren

>>378541050
It just shows how bad it was abandoned, just like they did with the GC, the Wii and the WiiU.

>>378541109
>The fact is that mario, zelda, pokemon and many other nintendo ips are classics

Fifa, Call of Duty and GTA (most popular PS4 games) are also classics.

>The truth is that games like fifa gta dark souls and generic power trips for manly man are spat out with minumal effort, ridden with bugs and lazyness, and when those games are gone, no one will remember them.

Why do you think your own personal opinion on them is fact? Can you give me some source or citation to your revelations?

>>378541139
Really?

I don't feel upset, I'm just laughing at your stupid ass getting butthurt.

>>378541293
>Countless
>Actually can count then very easil

Wow... So this.... Is the logic.... Of the sony cuck?

>>378540974
BB sold 3M, and is by far the best selling souls game on a single platform and thus we're getting a BB2.

>>378541198
Why Mario is good but GTA or Fifa is not?

Your only argument is your opinion which is not argument.

I can say Mario series is not really good too. What now?

>>378541235
The difference being that those Nintendo games where made over the course of two decades and the sony games under one.

>>378541313
Because it is a fact. That's why so many people in the industry adore nintendo and always give nintendo games good reviews.

Nintendo will live on, it has lived on. That tells something.
In time Microsoft will focus on pc and sony will stop bleeding money making playstation consoles but nintendo will live on

>>378541310
The Vita hasn't had a 1st party game since 2014 you brain-dead cunt. It "actually" was abandoned.

Vita getting 12 visual novels a week made on a budget of 100 yen and a bowl of ramen doesn't make it alive.

>>378541387
>N-Nintendo doesn't rehash games!!
>*shits diaper*
>f-f-f-fucking S-Sony Roach

>>378541109
There's so much fucking wrong on this post but this is the part that strikes me the most
>people won't miss GTA, FIFA age Dark Souls
If this post doesn't prove nintendorks are the most delusional people on earth I don't know what to say

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>>378540889
>posting the cursed shad image

>>378541090
yeah because new super mario bros is totally the main mario series

>>378541489
So you are saying Sony shits out rehashed games every year while Nintendo only releases one per console?

Wasn't the 60M mark last month?
They're probably half way to 70M now.

>>378541668
Moving the goal post I see.

>>378541510
This post goes beyond delusion, this is no longer how a fanboy thinks this actual cult-like mindset

>>378539712
>PC game
Zelda?

>>378541578
People still talk and play mario 64.

Nintendo games are always classics. No one talks or cares about fifa 2005, gta3 or dark souls 1. They are games that live and die in a moment. When they're done, they're done.

Want a better evidence of that? What's considered to be the best ff game? FF6. The last ff game for a nintendo console before they became generic shit trying to appeal to everyone. There's an innerent quality about the brand itself.

>>378541786
I wonder if Nintendildos will commit mass suicide if the Switch undersells the WiiU...

>>378541940
>No one talks or cares about dark souls 1
nigga what

>>378541313
>FIFA is a classic

Oh yes. Who can forget the gameplay of Fifa 08? The dizzying heights the game took us to. Completely unforgettable main campaign. Completely reinvented the genre. Absolute classic.

And let's not forget FIFA 12. Just when we thought FIFA 11 could never be topped along comes another simply amazing addition to the all time class series that no doubt tops gamers Top 10 lists all around the world. With its state of the art gameplay and it's timeless charm. The less said about the black sheep that was Fifa 04 the better though. That still leaves a bad taste in many a gamers throat to this day.

Long live FIFA which proudly sits among other all time classic videogame series. Does a day go by where we all don't get into such massive debate over the intricities of the series? Who can forget the hours spent trying to decipher the FIFA timeline? Or whether it will make it into the new Smash?? Or debating tier lists? I'm sure there are many a gaming fan proudly discussing the game right now as we speak!

>>378541940
People still talk about and play FFVII and MGS, so much so, the former is getting a remake. Your point?

>>378541109
>no one will remember them.


You realize GTA is far more popular than any Mario game? How could you even come up with such autistic conclusion?

>>378542019
The small niche fanbase...just that. It will die out now that fromsoft stopped making those games

>>378541762
nsmb are side games
not an argument

>>378541940
>No one talks or cares about fifa 2005, gta3 or dark souls 1.
>no one talks about DaS1
Ok we're done here this guy is legitimately brain damaged you honestly can't believe a word of what he's saying

>>378542057
Holy shit, it's like Mario present us something new each year instead anon.

>>378542060
Both terrible and controversial games even inside their respective fanbase.

>>378542231
Kill yourself

>>378541940
>>378542057

This goes beyond autism now.

I think it's falseflag

>>378542231
I really hope someone is screencapping your posts because I've never seen someone so disconnected from reality like you on this board history

>>378542198
Sure. You know what fucktard, even janitors and mods are clearly pro nintendo, so you can suck on that as evidence that nintendo is the name in gaming.

>>378542218
>B-b-but Mario!

Mario actually has a fanbase of people that care about this hobby.

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>>378541940
>No one talks or cares about dark souls 1.
Holy shit, you obtuse mongoloid.

>>378542342
Really? Is FFVII controversial inside its own fanbase while vi is just liked by everyone?
Doesnt mgs fanbase shits itself over what's the best mgs game and even that some consider twin snakes better?
Fuck off.

>>378542342
>>378542331
I don't think it's a falseflag, see >>378542360


I hope to god someone screens/saves this thread.

>>378542363
Fifa also has fanbase CoD too. Each time you make retarded statement that makes no sense. Just admit you are loyal Nintendo drone and I will leave you alone.

>>378542528
So you can circlejerk on neogaf, got it.

>>378541489
I'm saying sony put out 4 Uncharted games and moved on, while Nintendo has been putting out Mario and Zelda games for my entire life.

And honestly, if Uncharted and KillZone didnt exist I would still have bought my PS4, because its a powerful system that can play alot of other cool games and everyonce and awhile we get a new IP that turns out good.

But if they they stopped making Mario and Zelda games would anyone buy a switch, Are there any new Nintendo IPs worth mentioning?

>>378542360
>he honestly believes this
>he would be happy if this place turns into nintendogaf
This is too much not only you're embarrassing yourself but cementing the fact that the Nintendo fanbase is nothing but insane divas

>>378542637
>new Nintendo IPs
Arms, pikmin, splatoon...fact is everything nintendo does, does it right and better than most

>>378532657
>What went right?
Not the PS4 selling so damn much without it having any competition.
The success of the PS4 is literally why the PS4 is so damn awful now.
>PS+ required for online
>PS+ more expensive than ever
>The Instant Game Collection is worse than ever
This wouldn't have happened had the PS4 done worse.

I really do believe the success of the PS4 is the worst thing to have happened to legitimate fans of Playstation since quite possibly ever.

>>378542523
I know that N-drones were fucking retarded but holy shit this fucking guy, he goes beyond any imaginable concept of autism.

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>>378542637
>I'm saying sony put out 4 Uncharted games and moved on
https://www.naughtydog.com/blog/uncharted_the_lost_legacy_august_22_release_date

>>378542523
You're honestly the most hilarious and sad person I've have the displeasure to talk with in this board and I hope Sony and Microsoft keep outselling Nintendo everytime so you can bring you to suicide

>>378542664
>he would be happy if this place turns into nintendogaf
And you would be happy if this turns into sonygaf, what's your point?

>>378542057

God Tier
>Fifa 99
>Fifa 01
>Fifa 06

Great Tier
>Fifa 16
>Fifa 00
>Fifa 07

Okay Tier
>Fifa 02
>Fifa 03
>Fifa 04
>Fifa 05
>Fifa 08
>Fifa 10
>Fifa 12
>Fifa 13
>Fifa 14
>Fifa 15

Fifa Tier
>Fifa

Dark Edgy Reboot Tier
>Fifa 11

One that will sell another 10 million PS4'S Tier
>Fifa 18

Oh fuck nigger what are you doing Tier
>Fifa 09

>>378542864
When mario and zelda games keep stealing your 10/10 scores, yeah sure a lot to commit suicide about lel

>>378542878
I've never said that you're just putting words in peoples mouths because you are desperate to win an argument but instead you came as a mentally deranged fanboy worse than any other

>>378542664
It's people like him why I genuinely want Nintendo to drop out of the industry. Nothing against Nintendo personally, in fact, I grew up with them, and have owned every one of their consoles from the NES to the WiiU. But the fanbase is so completely insufferable. And I know tgis dude is legit too, cause I used to post/lurk on Snashboards/GoNintendo/Serebii back in the day, and people just like him and worse are plentiful.

I can't stand Nintendo fanboys, they are legit the WORST of all fanbases.

Like Smashtards are the only ones to turn on themselves over petty autistic bullshit, and spend thread after thread debating sales and other shit to validate made up terms like "iconicness."

Fuck...

>>378542637
>Nintendo make new games
>Hahahahaha shovelware shit hahahaha

>Nitnendo make Mario games
>Hahahaha Mario rehash make some new games hahahaha

>>378542878
>And you would be happy if this turns into sonygaf, what's your point?

But he never said that? It was your idea. Why do you think every person is autistic like you?

>>378542953
Ok you do that while ND keeps releasing 11/10 masterpieces, we cool?

>>378543103
>wanting a company to drop out an industry just to spite their shit fanbase
no anon you are the autist

>>378542558
I have two PS4s and a Vita I'm not a nitnendo fanboy.

You're just literally incapable of admitting the PS4s success is due to FIFA and call of duty sales.

Loving all the butthurt Nintenfags in this thread XD

I can't wait to see Nintendo become the next Sega

>>378543385
>spite the fanbase
No, I just want them to stop shitposting and disappear.

I at least wish they'd get their own containment board. This thread and the daily autistic Switch shilling/media create threads, should be proof enough as to why they should.

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>>378537318
>Bloodborne is for the mature audience

>>378542789
Arms is a mini game, when even was the last pikman? Which leaves one cool shooter. Meanwhile Sony has the last of us, Valkyria chronicles, Persona, the "Tales of" games, Until Dawn and those are just the exclusives that I can come up with off the top of my head. And really I could count games that are also on the Xbone since so few could run on the switch so I doubt we'll see ports (can you imagine FF XV, or Dishonored 2 or RE 7 on a switch?)

And I'm not a sonyfriend either, I think the switch is cool and BotW is awesome. But I loved my XBox 360 and PS3 while my Wii collected dust after I beat the 7 games I was interested in. And it looks like this gen will be the same, the switch will have a handful of amazing games that make buying the system worth it, but once your done with them it just collecting dust while good to amazing games are being steadily released for the real consoles that are trying to keep up with modern technology.

>>378543439
>You're just literally incapable of admitting the PS4s success is due to FIFA and call of duty sales.

But I never stated otherwise? I was just laughing at you because of your argument about Nintendo games being real while other don't.

GTAV is more popular than FIFA and CoD on PS4. Uncharted 4 is also popular by the way.

N I N T E N D O O M E D

>>378543439
The ps4 is a success because it was well marketed and caters to the average person needs and also because it's an affordable media center, FIFA and CoD selling well are just effects of it being so popular on the region they sell, Americans love CoD, Europeans love FIFA

>>378542834
thats like a side story though, drakes gone

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>>378543638
>heh, that'll show him, REAL adults play Pokemon on their DS in public like me!!

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>>378543831
Atleast 3DS players have the balls to play their games outside unlike Vita players

>PS4 is now only 4 million behind the 3DS

Good. Wonder what drones will use to shitpost once it finally surpasses it.

>>378544020
>Atleast 3DS players have the balls to play their games outside
That's because they are disconnected from reality

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>>378544187
Maybe point out that it had Fifa so of course it passed it? Duh. It will hit 150 million if they keep putting fifa games on it

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>>378532657
Everything
>Great games
>Strong hardware
>Great build quality
>Great network service
Everything is great, Sony always win
>But ps3, vita and psp
Nintendo had to use stupid gimmicks on their underpowered hardware to beat Sony. Vita and psp had the greatest handheld games ever and ps3 had the greatest games during 7th gen

Sony Always win

>>378543761
Uncharted 4s sales are literally boosted by being a pack in. Please do not pretend to me for a fucking second you think people fucking care about Uncharted enough for it to sell 9 million fucking copies.

>>378544339
Kill yourself

>>378538867
>Europe is Sonyland. It's always been that way. i don't really blame them, nintendo and sega treated europe as an after thought all through the 90s, as far as most yuropoors are concerned, the PS1 was the first console.
Until PSX game consoles in Europe where
>lol PAL what?
>Here have some crumbs and pay through the nose for them!
Sony then actually put some love into proper first party PAL adaptations, which displayed properly on PAL TVs and sold PSX at an affordable price.
Result: PlayStation exploded and everyone else got BTFO.

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>>378544020
That's because Nintendo is for autistic manchildren, Sony is for us real adults

Pic is how everyone react when they see you playing on your waho 1up shit

>>378543782
FUCKING. DELUSION.

>>378544187
About Fifa. It hass Fifa so it don't count.

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>>378544425
>Kill yourself argument
Typical drone

>>378544406
>Uncharted 4s sales are literally boosted by being a pack in

Every PS4 best seller (GTA, CoD, Fifa) was also bundled with consoles so your argument is broken.

>>378544268
Doesn't the Switch also have Fifa though? The WiiU did too.

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>>378544592
Please kill yourself when the game wins over 100 GOTY awards.

>>378544682
Yes, but not Fifa 18. The game is called EA sports Fifa on the switch
Fifa 18 isn't coming to the switch

>>378544790
But BotW hasn't won a single award for anything yet.

>>378544406
>Uncharted 4s sales are literally boosted by being a pack in

Zelda BOTW is being pack in with Switch. Why Nintendo fans brag about sales of this game then?

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>>378544790
Committing suicide is still more fun than playing Nintendo games

>>378544790
Well Nintenfags didnt commit mass suicide when TLOU won more than 100 GOTY awards so i dont see why they should

>>378536584
>>378536757
>oh look he used facts in his argument
>better call him a fag-loser
Reading's for nerds, amirite sonybros?

>>378544814
>Fifa 18 isn't coming to the switch
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>378537770
us gamers right

>>378544963
Because the year isn't over yet, retard.
>>378544987
>telling yourself this to rationalize not being able to play the game of the decade
Must suck being a sony nigger

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>>378544987
eyyyy
>>378545160
But then why are you saying it won awards when it hasn't won any?

>>378545059
It's true look it up. Really says a lot about Nintendo switch
Kek

>>378545160
Watch fucking Horizon win GotY over Zelda because it's got "muh female protag." Nintendildos will go MENTAL. I hope it fucking happens.

>>378545160
Meh we will soon be able to play botw on our PCs. The emulator experience will be better than both the switch and wii u version

>>378545435
I like BOTW and i think it deserves the GOTY...but i like more seeing /v/ froth from the mouth over their predictions not coming true

>>378544987
I'm not a fan of a game you can only play once. I want my money's worth.

>>378545160
>BotW winning GotY
>in the same year as Persona 5, Resident Evil 7, Horizon, NieR Automata, and Red Dead 2
Not happening.

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>>378545435
>Horizon getting GOTY