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Is Mass Effect dead? Do we even want it back?

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Is Mass Effect dead?

Do we even want it back?
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it was decent at best so who cares
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>>378529890
Well the Andromeda team got stripped down so yeah, it's definitely at least on hiatus. In five years or so it'll get rebooted again, though.
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Bioware sucks now so they're better off leaving it dead
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>>378529890
post rare saras
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>>378529890
The andromeda experiment backfired so much that they might just revive the milky way plot.
But first: MEmastered.
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>>378529890
Let's speculate how Andromeda 2 will be:
>Locked black female crippled character with down syndrome
>Everyone of the crew is a tranny
>Everyone of the crew costantly reminds the player of their sexuality
>There is a "trigger" bar that fills up whenever someone gets too close to you and a secret powerful attack that let you scream "RAPE!" whwn the bar fills
>Weapons will be pepper photonic dildos and laser pepper sprays
>Your mission will be to convince the planets you visit to embrace communism
>The final boss will be D.J.T. ,a powerful artificial intelligence which objective is to eat both the sacred scoops of ice
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>>378529890
Everybody non-retarded who worked on the Mass Effect trilogy is long gone. Just let it die.
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>>378530859
Fun and original
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>>378529890
Yes. It was fucking terrible. I don't know how retards enjoyed this hideous, bland "Space opera" with boring as shit aliens.
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>>378530604
>MEmastered has the same face animation from Andromeda
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>>378530859
Any plans they had for Andromeda 2 went down the toilet
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I get that /v/ screams and over-exaggerates everything to try and make a point, kind of like a child would, but let's be serious here. Where do people get these >>378530859 ideas from?

Only instances of "SJW" nonsense I ever came across was Hainley Abram, a side-character you could completely miss and had no relevance to anything, and has been patched out. And the Asari chick telling some Angaran lad that some of them prefer to be called He, instead of She. C'mon now, be real here, where does this mentality come from?
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>>378529890
Threadly reminder Andromeda was written by that stupid faggot that shit up Halo with his god awful OC robots and dogshit 'ancient evil' plot.
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>>378529890
Even if it's considered dead, The Witcher has outmatched it in every way.
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>>378531395
The lead game designer was an Indian. Guy who tweeted about how much he hated white people at least dozens of times you clueless cuck fsggot
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>>378531695
Stop this. There are no niggers in the Witchers world.
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>>378531828
But is that in-game? Sure, I won't disagree with you, that guy is scum of the Earth, but that Indian worked on the gameplay. The only good thing about the game, and he has been gone.
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>>378531395
A lot of people like to take the gag to the extreme because that's what they think makes people laugh/will piss them off enough to reply around here. The irony being they probably spend more time thinking about stuff like that just to shitpost than the majority of sjws do.
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>>378530859
There will BE no Andromeda 2. You don't just put the series on hiatus and publicly announce it unless really you mean it. I wonder what they'll deliver with DLC, though.

>mfw packs for MP that no one plays because people went back to ME3
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>>378531395
In Inquisition some descriptions stated "her" instead of "his". This is not cool. "The wearer of this amulet will have her dexterity increased by 5". NOT. COOL.
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>>378531984
That's a sand nigger
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>>378532315
This could be an influence of D&D manuals, which used female pronouns on everything for whatever fucktarded reason. Someone who doesn't know better because they never read non-meme literature could simply think female pronouns are grammatically correct.
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>>378532608
>This could be an influence of D&D manuals, which used female pronouns on everything for whatever fucktarded reason
Complete bullshit anon, I have no idea where you're getting this from. Everything in D&D is gender neutral, IT or THE TARGET.
If anything in D&D said "her" it literally would do nothing for males.
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>>378529890
I want Bioware to completely stop everything, I just want it to go away.
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>>378532073
By proxy of contact with the project, you make the content not worth engagement. If you want people to look at your art without judging you first. Don't open your mouth. That's the way of the world. Most people judge a book by its cover.
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The final mission in ME3 should have been in the same style as the Suicide mission in ME2

or at least the same way as the final mission in citadel with the different fireteams, that way everyone is involved

I always end up taking Tali and Garrus for every final mission anyway
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>>378529890
>Is Mass Effect dead?
Who cares? Mass Effect was never good.

>Mass Effect 1
>terrible gameplay
>only held up by a somewhat interesting plot and setting
>which is never really fleshed out, partly because they wanted to tease sequels

>Mass Effect 2
>gameplay is mediocre and forgettable
>plot is almost entirely focused on the Joss Wheadon-esque side characters

>Mass Effect 3
>more mediocre gameplay
>terrible conclusions to nearly every plotline

>Mass Effect 4
>one of the biggest train wrecks in gaming

The entire franchise was sold on "muh choices" marketing but your choices ultimately never had any major effect on anything.
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>>378529890
Bioware said that they're shelving it for a while due to the poor reception of Andromeda. Why they would give their most valuable franchise to their C-team is beyond me, but I guess they're really regretting fucking it up that badly.
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>>378530859
>ME:A 2

Will never happen, that part of the universe is dead. There may be another Mass Effect game, I really want one, but it will not be Andromeda.
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>create science fiction game with a really interesting premise about colonizing a new part of the universe
>turn it into a generic "ancient evil empire" storyline 2 hours in
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>>378532608
>This could be an influence of D&D manuals, which used female pronouns on everything for whatever fucktarded reason
Wrong. They used female pronouns for some classes, males for other. I remember, for example, that 3.X used male for fighters, clerics, sorcerers, rangers; female for monks, rogues, wizards, and paladins. It was a nice balance
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>>378533656
>there will never be a fan comic of Shepard, Miranda, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, Wrex, etc. going to Andromeda as the pathfinder and absolutely owning it 100%

The worst part about ME:A for me was how much of a cuck Ryder was. Shepard was strong willed and powerful, he/she made demands and demanded respect. When your companions insult you as Ryder you can't tell them to go fuck themselves like you could with Shepard, it was pathetic.
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>arks leave for andromeda with passengers in cryogenic stasis
>arrive 600 years later
>wake up
>you have 1 unread message(s)
>"lol some guy BTFO the reapers, come back you queers"
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>>378534834
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hopefully
it was always shit
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>>378533656
Fuck no, let this filthy franchise die.
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>>378529890
Who cares? The games were never that great to begin with. Virgins loved them because they could play the role of a guy who women aren't repulsed by for a change, but the actually gameplay and stories were mediocre.

Good riddance.
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>>378535308
/thread
Fuck this Star Trek clone.
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why was Andromeda poorly received?
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>>378535621
People finally realized ME is garbage.
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>>378535698
even the first 2 games?
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>>378535097
Why? ME 1 and 2 were entertaining games, hell even ME3 had it's moments. It's a nice universe, certainly better than Dragon Age.
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>>378535752
Hope so.
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>>378535308
>Virgins loved them because they could play the role of a guy who women aren't repulsed by for a change
A) That's most videogames
B) Normies ate that shit up, normies love ME
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>>378535698
This. Fuck that disgusting "sci-fi" shit. How retards even liked it in the first place is beyond me.
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>>378529890

Mass Effect 1's charm was that it felt like a new frontier for games was being breached, even weakly. Combat sucked, dialogue often sucked, lots of stupid sidequests, etc, yet it made the future of games look really interesting. As soon as you saw the games limits, you sobered up and were done with it. The sequels didn't push beyond the first and just refined and simplified what was there, and they were O.K. games overall (never played ME:A), though nothing felt like a strong step towards what ME1 made us hope for. Just a retread of the same formula which was mediocre in the first place. So, if they're not going to push for something better, let the franchise burn.
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>>378532819
D&D has had gendered rules since the 80s when I played it at least, you are talking out your arse.
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>>378536180
D&D has always been either "you" or "the target"
Pick an edition of player's handbook and I'll prove it to you.
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>>378536410
GAME RULE INFORMATION
Druids have the following game statistics.
Abilities:
Wisdom determines how powerful a spell a druid can
cast, how many spells she can cast per day, and how hard those
spells are to resist. To cast a spell, a druid must have a Wisdom score
of 10 + the spell’s level. A druid gets bonus spells based on Wisdom.
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>>378535772
They were space operas, which, even nowadays, is a very uncommon theme in videogames.
There's nothing else to them, if you are not interested in space stories, there's no appeal, and even then, Mass Effect is just countless cliches and archetypes put together clunkily.
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>>378529890
Yes, there's barely any Andromeda SFM porn

That means it failed hard
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>>378536746
were there even any attractive females in the game?
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>>378536837
No.
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>>378536410
This is from AD&D, 1978.
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>>378531828
>Lead game designer
He was a second string level designer. That's it.
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>>378531828
>>378536959
He's credited as lead gameplay designer of ME3 and Andromeda.
Lead game designer was Mac Walters.
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>>378529890

It's dead the same way Dragon Age, FF, MG or RE are dead... as in whatever made us like the original games is just gone. It's a new thing for new people that may or may not attract some of the old fans.

This target switching is been a constant on both movies and games... they just focus on new audiences and fuck all over the original market target that got them there.

They live mostly on name alone...
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>>378529890
>Is Mass Effect dead?
Yes, it is.

>Do we even want it back?
No, in my opinion.
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>>378531984
zerrikania is africa you faggot
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>>378537027
No, he's not.
He's credited as "Gameplay designer" and isn't even one of the top billed gameplay designers.

Chris King is credited as lead gameplay designer.
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>>378529890
>Is Mass Effect dead?
Yes, finally.

>Do we even want it back?
No, if anything, I would have made this franchise die during ME1's conception.
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>>378532174
>people went back to ME3
No, they didn't, the online mode of ME is garbage and ME3's died in the matter of weeks.
They didn't go back because nobody wants to play that trash.
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>>378533038
>tali and garrus
Why is that objectively, subjectively, and obviously the best team?
They're my go-to team as well
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>>378529890
It died a long time ago. Andromeda was an attempt at reanimating its corpse, and it turned out like you'd expect.
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>>378537905
It died the moment ME1 came out.
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>>378535698
The original 3 games were fun though. Andromeda was neutered in every aspect.
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>>378538349
>they were fun
Sure it was.
Andromeda is exactly what this franchise deserved.
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>>378529890
Can /pol/fucks stop posting this trash image everywhere? Seriously, no one cares about your racist bullshit.
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>>378529890
>Do we even want it back?


no. should have stayed dead after 3.
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>>378537828
Because they're Shepards truest friends besides Joker

Ashley/Kaiden ditch him because wtf i hate cerberus now
Wrex goes back to Tuchanka
Liara is arguably more useful as an information broker but she's a bit of a cunt in ME2
Everyone from ME2 fucks off after Shepard gets grounded
Only Tali and Garrus stuck around with Shepard from the beginning to the end, it felt right to bring them along for most missions

Also almost every playthrough I've ever done has been: No gf -> Tali -> Tali anyway
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They can't recover from this. It's literally impossible. I thought no one could out do Besthesda's release of Skyrim on Ps3 but I was incredibly wrong.
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>>378538702
Hopefully this brings the death of the RPG genre faster.
Fucking no one remembers how to make decent RPGs.
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>>378529890
>Do we even want it back?

No. I want new IPs are a Dead Space reboot/retcon, that's about it from EA.
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I love ME 1 and 2 and even some parts of 3. I would fucking love a new mass effect but I have zero faith in the current incarnation of bioware to make a good one.

I had made peace with the fact that Andromeda would be of equal quality to inquisition and was somewhat ok with that and they couldn't even meet that low bar.
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>>378529890
>Is Mass Effect dead?
It died with 3.
>Do we even want it back?
No. Fuck off.
>>378530484
You shopped the wrong hand in, you ugly moron.
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>>378535308
>Who cares? The games were never that great to begin with.
Yes they were, the universe ME1 established was magnificent. It takes some special kind of mongoloid to come here and whine about virgins.
Where the fuck do you think you are? Fuck off back to facebook, nigger.
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>>378536167
>I never played any of this but I want to sound clever.
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ME:A isn't even that bad, it just needs the fucking bugs fixed and it's an ez 8/10.
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>>378537637
This isn't bait, but Mass Effect 1 was great. I don't get all the hate, and I wanted to participate.
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>>378538349
Sure, if by first three games you mean the first two. ME3 was so incomprehensibly stupid and horrible I'm surprised it didn't kill Bioware.
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>>378540907
ME1 is a game that doesn't stand out in any way aside from trying the space opera thing in videogames, and even then it's just a mess of cliches, archetypes, simplistic aliens and absolutely awful design for things like ships.
The gameplay is mediocre, the choices are irrelevant, and the RPG elements are lacking.
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>>378538742
*Ahem*
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>>378541127
>*action*
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>>378541127
>obsidian
>who made the borefest that was New Vegas
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>>378540736
You think the writing and plot are in any way remotely aceptable or even passable?
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>>378541061
The setting is wonderful, the concept of galactic exploration is unprecedented in an RPG, even if executed poorly and the characters are likeable enough to keep you playing all the way through. You can build a story around cliches and make it work if written properly, not that ME did this at all.
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>>378541298
They're fucking fine. Average. Your typical sci-fi space opera. That doesn't equal shit.
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>>378533741
What's even worse is the fact they're a copy of the reapers to some degree as well.

>reapers indoctrinate you and turn you into a willing cyborg to do their bidding
>kett indoctrinate angara and turn them into willing copies of themselves to do the ketts bidding

Not to mention 2 of the only 5 explorable planets are fucking deserts.
W3 had more world variety during the world travelling quest with Avallach than MEA did as a whole.
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>>378529890
>Do we even want it back?
Not really
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Mass Effect was only ever good for its lore and universe.

It's just a damn shame that talentless hacks like Bioware have the license, but what can you do?
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>>378541695
What lore and universe?
They paid so little attention to it that after 4 games we have never, EVER seen a single Salarian ship.
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>>378541545
They aren't from my view. The dialogue is bad. Really bad, flawed at a basic level. The characters have no sense of peril. They never properly react to things. Especially Ryder.
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>>378541545
mass effect 1 was your typical sci-fi space opera
andromeda is your typical big sci-fi series unofficial fanfiction except it's official
seriously, it has star wars pop references and tumblrspeak
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>>378541298
But terrible writing and plot are the staple of Mass Effect.
And of the videogame industry in general.
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>>378538654
>EVERYTHING IS POL

kys
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>>378542039
>kys
>>>/reddit/
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I just wanted Shep to live so he and liara could have lots of little blue children. God dammit they deserved to be happy ;_;
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>>378542125
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>>378535621
>awful performance while not even looking all that good
>tons of boring fetch quests where you constantly have to travel between planets/necus resulting in a fuckload of loading screens
>combat becomes really boring after a few hours (this is coming from someone who played and liked Witcher 3 for about 100 hours without getting too bored of the combat)
>boring as all fuck companions
>meh dialogue
>not enough world variety
>locking research behind level is done badly
>cryo pod stuff is pretty useless and feels tacked on
>bugs, bugs, bugs
>average "ancient evil" story #3456535
>locked to only 3 skills (switching favorites is really counterintuitiv)
>passives are pretty meh and boring to level
>ompanions are boring to level
>it doesn't matter in the slightest which companions you decide to bring along because there's zero tactics in the game
>biotics/techs are really weak compared to just shooting things
>all the 5 planets have the same god damned monsters
>bugs, bugs, bugs
>incredibly bad dialogue animations
>massive memory leak problem (at least on PC)
It's a real shitshow.
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>>378541259
>being retarded
No wonder this board is considered the reddit of 4chan. Fuck you and your shit tastes you faggot.
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>>378541545
lol no my man. I can see how someone could play through it unbothered but that doesn't work on the educated.

The writing was just above grade school. Maybe high school. The characters were bland and boring. The game clearly has political shit stuffed in their and doesn't even bother trying to make it make any sense. The gameplay sucked. It was just barely above Inquisitions terrible quests and I think the setting helped save them a lot on that one.

I was able to bust through the first two planets. I 100% them both and then I couldn't stand playing it anymore. The game is awful and you'd have to truly be trying not to pay any attention to it to claim otherwise.
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>>378541259
God damn your so fucking stupid it hurts. A terminal journal skeleton character, a burned religious Morman closet monster and a sad old man are all better written characters than any garbage in that Mass Effect shit. Also it's more of an RPG in a more interesting world.
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>>378543085
>my opinion is the definitive truth
>subjective taste doesn't exist
It's a fucking game you stupid nigger you're not critiquing a god damn award winning novel.
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Is it true they stopped plans for DLC with andromeda after how bad it was?
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>>378544174
Yes. It is kill. Good riddance desu. Shepard and the rest of the team were gr8. Andromeda's cast of autists were utter and absolute beta tier shit that no one could give one flying fuck about. Bring back Grunt.
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>>378535772
>Why? ME 1 and 2 were entertaining games, hell even ME3 had it's moments
Lets leave it at that. There was really no need to continue the series. EA could have sunk the money into a new IP that didn't have to ruin a already standing franchise.
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Leaving them around as a containment-area for SJW game developers doesnt sound like that bad an idea.
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>>378544353
>Shepard and the rest of the team were gr8.

Some of the crew may have been good but Shepard was a shit boring MC. I was so disappointed that Bioware didn't have the balls to follow through on their original plan of having Shepard's death being a thing.
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>>378534309
Numale Effect
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>>378544906
Ok I'll give you that. Shepard could have had better dialogue. I guess they wanted him to be neutral for muh self insert. Still, despite that I really liked the squad mates. They were interesting. Then ME:A happens and just like, that the magic is gone.
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>>378534834
kek
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>>378529890
Crucify my for this all you will but I really enjoyed the Mass Effect games, up until Andromeda that is. It should die and stay dead, fuck modern Bioware. What a way to kill a series. If they even think of touching Knights of the Old Republic now I will fucking kill myself.
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>>378534834
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>>378543867
>abloo bloo bloo why are you saying a game based on story with a shit story is bad! JUST PLAY MY GAME! I DON'T WANT TO BE ALONE!

If you want it to just be a game, don't include a story. No one bitches about the story in Ikaruga.

You should honestly just fuck ff. You're too stupid to have an actual conversation here and you clearly don't like videogames.
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>>378543867
Its objectively bad writing.
It fails at a fundamental level.
I'm sorry about your shit taste.
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>>378542407
Fuck this shit "space opera" crap. This is now a New Vegas thread, a real rpg. First and foremost what the fuck was his problem?
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>>378546657
Are you ok anon? It's just a video game. Maybe you should consider taking a break.
>>378546737
I don't really care. I liked it and so did others. Your patrician meme taste is irrelevant.
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>>378529890
It died in ME2, even if people didn't realise.
There was just too much damage done by that point, that would have made it impossible to resolve properly even if 3 had been a masterpiece
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>>378529890
I hope so, it hasn't been good since ME2 and even that wasn't fantastic.
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>>378544883
What percentage of game developers are SJW anyway?
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>>378536167
>The sequels didn't push beyond the first and just removed and simplified what was left
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>>378540992
Most normies loved 3, 3 was also most normies' first ME game.
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>>378541298
It's a video game, most people don't bother paying any attention to that at all. Seriously, most people that play games now are the type that if they ever did start and beat a story heavy game in a single sitting afterwards they'd have no idea what it was about because they focused more on shooting or punching shit.
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>>378529890
Yes.
No.
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>>378543085
>The writing was just above grade school. Maybe high school.

So slightly above average for video games as a whole then?
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>>378544906
I think I would have preferred the whole "revived by the Geth" idea than what we got.
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>>378549542
>revived by the geth
Hold on when was this glorious idea a thing
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>>378544883
How a studio based in Edmonton, one of the most conservative Canadian cities, is so SJW is beyond me.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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