Diablo 2

If I were to play this and the first game today would they still hold up? I don't mind isometric perspectives at all or old games as Fallout and Planescape are two of my top 10 favorite games.

>>378487752
I suppose it depends on what kind of games you like. Fallout and Planescape are slower paced and focus on the RPG aspects plus storytelling. Diablo is all about the action and carving through hordes of enemies. Diablo 2 is pretty easy to pirate, so I would certainly give it a go. It's a classic. In my opinion, it's probably one of the best co-op games ever made if you got some friends to play it with.

>>378486408
I'd been playing a summon necro on median xl.

>>378488015
I don't mind mediocre combat as I previously stated Planescape is one of my top games. I like atmosphere, soundtrack, and art design and was wondering if these games still hold up atleast in those regards.

>>378487752
>If I were to play this and the first game today would they still hold up?

Other than screen resolution, yes. The biggest D2 gets without patches that get you banned is 800x600.

>>378488316
Diablo 2 has great atmosphere not like that cartoony bullshit Diablo 3

>>378488375

You mean D1. D2's problem is that the atmosphere is all over the place.

>>378487752
where the fuck do you even get d1

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>>378488139
>just started summon necro in median xl also
my nigga

>>378488504
Comes in the D2 battle chest, provided those are even still being sold.

>>378488621
I'm in terror A5. I had to take a break to make my gear better because my summons were getting shit on.

>>378488645
not him but i got old copied cd's of d1 and hellgate
>>378488717
still in hatred, wondering how hard is those challenges, since one of them is limited to 50 level or under

>>378488820
>hellgate
god damnit, bit tired, meant hellfire

>>378488820
Make sure you get that shit done or your character will be gimped forever. They're not that bad but they require some persistence. Their website has a lot of information, you can just run bosses to get uniques then break them down and build uniques that suit your character.

>>378488504
download it

>>378486408
I don't think I'm going to play this season.

But just in case, what's the best cheap build for a hardcore p&b necro? How viable is it for soloing hell, what are the best MF runs, etc?

tfw poe and d2 are only relevant because of how hard d3 flopped

paying for necromancer

>>378488504
You could emulate the playstation version

>ladder reset

shit should I play it?

>>378488330
this is literally the only reason why I won't play warcraft 3 or diablo 2 anymore

>>378490894
What does this even mean?

>>378490894

unfortunately the hype will die after a month... But hey, it's a lot of fun while it lasts. I recommend it.

so is anyone interested in reviving the /vg/ general for the ladder reset?

>>378486408

Too bad Path of Diablo has such retarded developers. What kind of dumbfuck is still using loaders for Diablo 2 mods? Making your mod incompatible with D2SE is retardation for the sake of retardation.

>>378494879
the ladders on all the realms are reset, so all ladder characters get moved to Non ladder (they're separate and ladder chars can't play with non ladder, vice versa)

So everyone will be starting completely from scratch tomorrow on the ladder. People practice for weeks ahead of time, forming teams and training to be the first to beat the game and get to the top of the ladder on softcore or hardcore.

BTW generally you always want to play on ladder, since some of the best runewords and uniques in the game can only be acquired on ladder

is diablo 1 hd any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTfOEunW3hg

>>378496598
My favourite D1 mod is The Hell.

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>>378495976
I'll be sure to blog post drops if it's made :^)

>>378486408
It's the same thing that happened to SC2. People realized it was shit and went back to brood war.

>>378496762
I'd shit my pants

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well yes OP, I actually have

>hardcore paladin
>set players to 8
>level 11 by the time done with blood raven

there's a ladder reset coming? neato burrito

>>378496791
>spouts shit having zero idea what he's talking about

>>378496762
den of evil? how is that even possible?

>>378496962
in hell difficulty it's possible to drop anywhere, it's just asininely rare

>>378496817
I was surprised since I could have missed it if I didn't pick up a few gold piles.
>>378496962
the pit level 2

>>378496930
Both SC2 and D3 are fucking dead while D2 and BW are regaining their playerbase. Really makes you think.

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>>378496762
What the fuck

The objective best build:
BONEmancer
Summons is a noob trap. Bone Spear is the following the path of the warrior.

also playing Assassin avoiding Trapsin or just spamming kicks on everything

>>378497140
d3 lost it's playerbase a long time ago and d2 has always had a large one
starcraft just benefited from it's modern machine compatibility update that made it free to play so it's not surprising people are going back to it

>>378492590
Warcraft 3 supports 4k if you update it lol.

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>>378497330
hybrid sin is the best. I love mine <3

>>378497116
best drop I ever found was an SoJ from Blood Raven in nightmare.

>>378486408
Is there an auto gold pickup mod for D2? It's literally the only thing D3 made right.

>>378497667
Dunno, the mod I'm playing has it built in.

>>378497580
I never liked flails because of how extreme the range of damage was, it makes it that much worse with the lightning damage added

>>378497667
If you want gold youre gonna have to bend down and pick it up yourself, lazy jew

>>378497667
Gold is damn near worthless in diablo 2.

I'm pretty new to this genre. I love Titan Quest and Grim Dawn, and I played some Torchlight 2 but got bored of it really fast. How good is Diablo compared to the "Diablo clones" that I've played?

>>378497741
You don't use lash on the sin as a weapon. You use it for the crushing blow and static field procs on your kicks for instagibbing bosses. It's one the godliest weapons out there for ubers along with the Ribcracker, which I also have a perf upped one of

>>378497763
whenever I got maxed gold I just gambled it
I usually got garbage

>>378497792
it'll probably be somewhat difficult to get into d2 if those are the only other arpgs you've played.

give it a shot, though, you might like it. kinda lacking in end-game content compared to newer arpgs

>played POE to end of act 3
>meh
is diablo 2 better?

>>378497876
Haha yeah that sounds about right.

>>378497792
Diablo 1 and 2 are and probably always will be the best Diablo-like games, hands down. After year and years of playing countless RPG's I'm convinced no loot system will ever come close to D2's

>>378497910
Significantly, Path of Leddit isn't that bad but it you'd be better off playing Diablo 2.

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>>378497580
that Jah and an Ohm were my best picks last ladder. I was hoping to find myself a Stormlash but had no luck with the one drop I got.

>>378497330
Agreed, bonemancer is awesome. What's the best affordable build for a hardcore bonemancer at the start of the ladder?

Kick+trap assassin is also super cool.

>>378497873
I never played ass lady, so I have no idea what this means
I always liked barb despite him being the hardest for me for some reason

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>>378496762

>>378498049
That sucks. It's either a 25% or 12.5% chance that a unique scourge will be a lash, IIRC. It's decently rare

Ohm and Jah are really nice finds

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>unique ring drops
>feel my heart stop for half a second
>its a fucking nagelring

>>378497580
Got any tips for a hybrid sin that can take on hardcore ubers n stuff without spending a fortune on gear?

Yes, I know paladins are better but fuck that

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I found this. Looking forward to using it. Sometimes I wonder how much it would be worth if it had 1 more soc

>>378498430
It's always a fucking nagel

>>378498461
I think you're spending a fortune on gear, stormlash is the easy-in for a weapon if you can get one.

>>378498461
stack crushing blow and lots of defensive stats like res and life... you want tons of res.

Look up some hardcore sin guides for gear ideas. If you really want to take on HC ubers then good luck to ya

wait, what the fuck? people still play diablo 2 and it gets updates? why don't they just update diablo 3 until it isn't shit or make diablo 4?

>>378498793
not the same, kiddo

What's everyone rolling for the ladder reset? I'm thinking about playing pally to run hell chaos asap

>>378498793
this is nu-blizzard we are talking about here pham. really think about this for a second

>>378498793
>>378498859
This.

>>378498678
What about just taking on hell solo + uber diablo?

Aside from relying on crushing blow, is it worth using weapons that add lots of elemental damage? Like that one throwing axe.

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>>378486408
I tried the ladder last reset again and fuck that shit.
Botters don't do SHIT as some people think.
Dupers fuck up the entire economy every single reset.
Waiting for the next slashdiablo reset at this point.

do I need to buy it to play online?

>>378498859

are the updates really official though? like even the creators/owners of the game admit diablo 2 is still the best?

I started playing through again first time since like 2008 but honestly just went for single player since i dont have friends

>>378499043
don't need friends to enjoy trading with others

>>378499002
they roll out the updates through battle.net my man, even going so far as to say that they are working on dealing with botters/spammers
if anything they show they still give a shit by even doing ladder resets

>>378498995
For official bnet servers, yes.

>>378499104
>enjoying trading.
>make game with clear title for what I want and what I'm paying
>shithead joins and undercuts
>lol gl *leaves*

>>378498916
No, you want to stack crushing blow as nothing else works for ubers.

>>378499002
How fucking old are you?

>>378499123

da fuck.... I wish nexon would do this with old maplestory

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>>378499285
C'mon man, it's fun!

>>378496962
Pretty sure den is the first level 85 zone in hell. You have a slight chance of high drops

>>378498916
>is it worth using weapons that add lots of elemental damage? Like that one throwing axe.
No, because this damage isn't added to your kicks... kicks are weird and only certain effects work with them. You want Crushing blow and good boots, like upped goblin toes or goreriders.

>>378499537
It's not. People run the pit, which looks the same.

>>378499619
Unless I'm misreading, elemental damage does get added to kicks, however straight +damage like Grief does not.

Is the physical component of the kick damage actually significant? Even upped gores look like they have pathetic damage, I wonder if they're actually worth using.

Also, I'm thinking that dual +lightning claws and claw block would be perfect for traps but a max block shield seems better for kicks. What do you use for a hybrid (on hardcore)?

when does the reset happen?

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>>378499435
my favorite

>>378499968
are you illiterate? it's literally in the OP

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>three decade old game
>still fucking sold in every fucking physical Walmart and Target in the known universe
>$19.99 + $9.99 online

>>378500207
really gets the noggin joggin

>>378500404
they know botters eat that shit up every ladder
crook-ass blizzard

>>378500561
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeke_and_Luther

laughed my ass off after I found out

Am I the only one who likes to play d2 casually? I play offline (and occasionally with a buddy), never did a ladder, and get confused when people on the threads start talking stats and builds.
I just genuinely find this game fun and comfy on my own.

>>378500951
yes, in 2000 when i was 9 years old

>>378500851
Why

>>378500376
I guess I should have said when tomorrow

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>>378500376
quite contagious in the D2 community

>>378500951
Everyone here plays casually. People don't care about the ladder because they're racing or anything like that, it's just a notable time because there will be other people online to play with.

>>378500951
Honestly unless you're playing with friends I always thought that multiplayer in this game was completely pointless.

I want to play this again, but I have so many other games to play and no friends to play this with. I played about two years ago as a bonemancer and it was the most fun build I've had. I'd probably make a new one if I had someone to play with. Problem is that I live in japan so everyone is asleep when I'm up. Median XL any good?

>>378502470
I lol'd

Act1 > Act2 = Act 4 = Act 5 >>>>> Act3

Fuck act 3.

>>378503104
What is your favorite level? Mine is Harem.

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Diablo 2 is still my favorite, had to install it again a few weeks ago
>mfw I'm just two pieces off from full Trang Oul for my necro in solo

Honestly who even gives a fuck? Path Of Exile offers far more in terms of itemization+customization while Diablo 3 offers far more engaging moment to moment actiony gameplay while Torchlight 2 has much more versatile mods while Marvel Heroes brings the diversity in multiplayer content.

Go play one of these much superior takes in way, shape, or form on Diablo 2 (except maybe Marvel Heroes because it just went through a huge overhaul that still has a lot of kinks to work out.)

>>378503654
In my opinion PoE is better in every way other than setting. Diablo 3 is still worse than D2 though.

D3 is really weird. I can see the direction they dragged it, and it's an interesting one for ARPGs, one that I think makes sense. It still sucks to play compared to PoE or D2 though.

I like Torchlight 2 a lot but I'm unfamilar with its mods. How far do they go?

>>378503654
All of those games lack any form of decent atmosphere.
Not only is diablo 2 fun, but its dark medieval gothic style and music is the literal definition of God-Tier.

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>>378503468
>missing IK Armour
>missing Tal's Ammy

Every time.

also back in the early D2 days:
>Sigon's Shield never
>seeing Milabrega's armor not hacked for the first time
>people used to hack Blacks/Whites as Ancient Armour

>>378503468
>Trang Oul
Why does it have to ruin FCR and FHR? Fuck that transformation, it would be great if not for that.

>>378502167
Median XL is nice. Do keep in mind that it focuses on hordes with a lot of flashy AoE skills. Like complete revamps of errything.

If you want a more vanilla-ish mod experience, then install D2SE and find the plugin for Eastern Sun. Pretty nice mod that amps the difficulty and has quite a few nice changes, like necros can go into a full golem build since you can summon each type at once and get two of a type with enough hardpoints.Sacrifice builds for paladins are also viable since its now 8% of your current life along with being phys immune for the attack length.

>>378503654
>Path Of Exile offers
The ability to spam pots and 1 ability with 100 passive abilities and a completely shallow attribute tree

It had a lot of potential, but the game is absolute shit now and one of the worst ARPGs out there period.

>>378503654
Diablo 2 is my waiting game for poe 3.0

>>378503654
>Honestly who even gives a fuck?
Apparently you do enough to reply to the thread. Besides, D2 is fun to many people, anyway.

>>378486408
>Median XL patch released a few days ago
This doesn't deserve to be talked anywhere near actual diablo or even PoD. It's a piece of shit weeb power fantasy mod that rapes the original's ideals.

>>378487752
>There are people posting that have never walked into The Butcher's room.
>Newfags that have never played Uther Party.
Literally blows my mind.

>>378488504
Pirate it. You can even take it online.

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>>378496598
It's pretty fun. Some nice changes but it also take some QoL things from D2 that you may or may not like.
1080p Diablo looks fucking beautiful though.

>>378503654
I agree that PoE is better but D2 is just so comfy for some reason.

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>Tfw you dropped last season when you mistakenly (AGAIN) put an Insight together in a pickaxe and not a spear.
I wanted to kill myself.
Maybe I'll give it another go.

I feel like I can never get a good build going in MXL, once I get to Diablo I just fucking splat on him over and over, seriously, how do HC players not die on this fight?

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>>378505295
lol

>>378496194
most modders are primadonna whores

>>378504327
Thanks.

>>378504014
Mods add everything from new classes to just crazy overhauls like a Star Wars one.

>>378504079
Ehhh I felt that Act 4 is really the only one that lives up to that atmosphere. D1 is the only one that keeps it dark fantasy all the time in the series. For what it's worth POE is also pretty bleak.

>>378504365
Have you PLAYED D2? It's far more reliant on potion spamming because spamming is limited by number of potions you hold rather than something more fixed. Most of D2's builds are single move spam as well (Hammerdin, Orb Sorc, etc.) and the ones that aren't single move spam often have a couple set up moves that then go into spam akin to POE. It's just that POE removes D2's basic ass synergy system and has in place a much more versatile take on something like that with how support gems work.

Shallow Attribute tree...again I am wondering if you have actually played D2 whose equivalent is literally those five points you get to spend on just three stats every level up. Not to mention said attributes play a much bigger role in POE as well.

>>378504509
Just curious. Oldass game where we have all explored the same three or so builds that are viable per class that are all built off the same few endgame equip items like Shako and Hellfire Torch in a game with shitty graphics.

Path of Diablo looked interesting until I saw some of the changes. Most of them seem like number shuffles.

>>378505923
Pretty sure Median XL which was mentioned in the OP has the goal of making more builds end game viable.

I was curious if they were into full overhaul territory. Got a link to the mod? Or just its name will do.

>>378498995
how stupid do you have to be to ask that q

>>378506054
The mod is called Median XL, anon, what are you asking?

>>378506172
I should've specified better, I was replying to the first and last section of that post in reverse order. I was citing Median XL as a rebuttal to the complaint about the stale endgame.

Then I went to ask what the name of the overhaul for Torchlight 2 he was refering to was.

Sorry for the confusion.

>>378486408
Poe exists why care about diablo shit

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>>378506609
honestly, I've played PoE from beta to Legacy league (now) on and off, and its not comparable at all. I think I'll skip 3.0.0 entirely, I'm so fed-up of PoE.

>>378506054
The Star Wars one is in TL1 not TL2 my bad. But the big mod for TL2 like that is Synergies mod.

Median XL does vary it up a bit from D2, but doesn't come close to POE. Hell even POD doesn't come close to POE.

>>378486408
I want better resolution. The game s great still.

>>378505449
>hardcore
>mxl

you gotta be a masochist to play hardcore but ya people have got to lv 120 on ladder most die at like 80 tho

>20$ for a 17 year old game
Still, just grabbed this a couple days ago as I never played LoD.
Sucking me in hard.