.

>>378482913
Switch P2 and P1 and it's perfect

>>378482913

As someone who has never touched a persona game, you started the series with 3.

>>378482913
you have the worst fucking taste

>>378482913

i haven't played 1 or 2 but 5 is unquestionably better than 3 or 4 due to huge gameplay improvements such as

>actual dungeons
>demon negotiations
>stealth shit (even if not fleshed out enough, at least it added something beyond just running around and around in dungeons)

even if you think p3 or p4 told the best story ever told and you thought p5's story was garbage, its still a better game for these reasons alone

but its story wasn't garbage, so really the only reason to put it below 3/4 is waifus

>tfw P1 and P5 are the only actually enjoyable games

sure blows

Persona SMT fans are really high up there for the "worst fanbase" title.

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>>378482913
Someone's upset that Persona 5 is popular.

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>>378482913
>I played p3 first and hate the newest games because it's the cool thing to do
WOWWWWWW

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>>378482913
>P5 in the bottom
>when its closer to SMT than P3 and 4

>>378482913
3 was my first Persona.

5 is the best.

>>378482913
>The 5 or so dedicated P3 fags desperate battle to stay relevant

Time to move on, kids.

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>le contraian man

alright lads
after finishing up p5 i instantly started p4g. im near the end right now and so far p5 was better in every single aspect.
convince me to play p3 after this shit

The mere fact that P5 added three new damage types, added guns, and includes damage attacks for light and dark already make the combat light years ahead of the other games.

>I don't have enough human interaction so I'll piss people off and have them talk to me tier: OP

>>378485342
Actually 2 has more damage types, spell types and more party customization

>>378485342
>new damage types

>>378482913
Should be P3, P2, P1, P5 and P4. Not far off though.

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>>378485224
P3 has a pretty good end, but it's a slog up to that point. It's worth giving a go, but it might be worth trying out mainline SMT or one of the other spin offs instead.

>>378485224
p3 is even worse than persona 4. don't let the other people meme you into thinking it is good. you literally did a moonwalk with the franchise

>>378482913
P3 really is kino. P5 could've approached those heights after the Pyramid if they didn't jew you on a January.

P3 is shit compared to P4 and P5, both in terms of gameplay and storyline.

Only faggot contrarians with assert otherwise.

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>>378482913
Persona 1 and 2 battles were way too slow for my taste.

I really tried to give the PSP games a chance but I just couldn't fucking do it.

>>378484404
I agree with his list (other than swap 1 and 2) and I started with 4 Golden then played in release order.

>>378482913
hi what does kino mean?
thanks

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>>378482913
Fixed it

I like the Persona 2 duology but they are ridiculously overrated by oldfags

>>378482913
>timeless classic persona
t. never played persona,
I can't really believe that someone played Persona and especially the snow queen meat grinder and came out of it saying that is a classic.
Even If... is a better first persona than the first persona.

>>378485806
No matter how you feel about 3, it is in no way "rehashed" you moron

>>378485446
Right, but that game is actual shit.

>>378485532
Agreed. P4 brought even more normalfags and had a nauseating amount of spin-offs.

P5 > P4 > P3 > EP > IS > 1

>>378484906
You think so? I felt the bosses in P5, save for maybe the Madarame and the final boss, were kind of pitiful. By the end of the game Ann and Yusuke were blowing away every encounter in one turn, I thought the angels would end up being regular enemies given how fast they went down.

>>378485785
Кинo just means film in Russian. t.Russian

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>>378485806
Persona 4 is my favorite one and wen I know it's Rehashed Meme Tier. It has 4 spinoffs and 2 animes that tell the same damn story.

Chie best meme girl

>>378485224
everyone else is memeing you, P3 (play FES) is great as long as you go into it knowing it's the first try at the formula
still the best OST

>>378485963
Ah makes sense, since the west has been Russianized and all

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P4 doesn't deserve the hate it gets

>>378485963
oh i thought it was a video game tho

>>378486079
The "hate" is linked to its popularity, bro. The more people that love something, the more some people feel the need to shitpost about it.

>>378486221
So Persona 3 must be the best game ever

>>378486076
While that is not true, you should be glad it is not. I don't understand American stance on Russian since the ones that are critical of us want Soviet tier economics.
>>378486167
I don't know what the meme is, that is just what 'kino' means. It is just romanised for movie or cinema or film, all are the same word for us. Кинo.

>>378486258
Persona 3 is only popular on here. It's the contrarians game and no one elses

>>378486396
>you prefer P3
>you are contrarian
Fuck this culture, it's been ruined by Dark Souls

>>378486396
So you hate it? Along with everyone else? So my reply was accurate?

>>378486258
P3 isnt anywhere near as shitposted, anon. Because only a few dedicated faggots care about it.

The same dedicated faggots that made this bait thread.

>>378482913
Going back to tantalus hurts and goddamn, after seeing the movies the P3 animated cutscenes look so terrible.

>>378486523
P3 is not as good as P4 or P5 though. This is reality.

>>378485894
>P3P, P4A, FES, one shitty spinoff, and a shitty movie don't count because there's no dancing game

Played P5 first and then went onto P4G. Near the end of P4G now.

P5 was better in terms of gameplay and dungeons, but I prefer the story of P4G and the characters.

I am missing shit like Baton Pass and shared EXP though, I also much preferred how leveling up social links gave you abilities even if they weren't party members.

So in terms of gameplay > P5
In terms of story > P4G

Can't be bothered to play P3 when the community is split between portable and FES.

I played persona 3 portable on my PSP emulator on my PC to see if I should get it on my ps4, and it was a shitty point and click game. Is Persona 5 also a point and click game at all, or was that just because I played the portable version?

>>378487051
No just play FES

Portable is a second experience type of game

>>378487051
Just play portable and watch The Answer on youtube since you started from 5.
Playing The Answer is a goddamn slog.

>>378487114
It was because you played the portable version.
ps2 version has models at all times like in the dungeons.

>>378487209
>>378487230

See what I fucking mean

>>378482913
ONE FUCKING DUNGEON WITH RANDOM BULLSHIT FLOORS. WOW IT'S LIKE A FUCKING INDIE GAME ON STEAM.

There is no goddamn reason to play Persona 1. Its just SMT-lite with no benefit, the only notable character is notable because of how ridiculous he is int he localization, and the entire game is forgettable. Oh it was all the girl's dream, and Kandori wanted to rule the world. Gameplay is so dull and slow.

Looking back it was a huge waste of time.

>>378482913
Eternal Punishment is nowhere near as good as Innocent Sin.

>>378486372
Liar, /v/ hates movies like TLoU so why would it use movie as a top tier, kill yourself ivan

>>378487414
I am just going to give you a quick rundown on both versions.
>Fes
>Game has models at all times like p4
>Can use fusion spells if you have 2 specific personas for example if the MC has both jack frost and pyro jack he can use a special combination spell with them
>it has a playable epilouge called the answer that is set after the main story, but it kinda sucks since it is just going through random generated dungeons like in p4 without any of the sim stuff in between.
>You can't controll your party members you can only change their AI's tactics.

>Portable
Can play as a girl with some new SL/confidants so to say
>Can directly command party members, but it makes the game easier since the game isn't balanced around you having direct control over your party members
>all the sim stuff is a VN point and click game and you only have models when inside a dungeon
>has some extra content like fighting margaret the velvet room attendant from p4, fighting stronger version of the shadow bosses you faced during the game and some puzzle mode where you have to defeat an enemy through a certain way or method with pre-set resources and party members.
>Has skill cards
>All fusion spells are now just items that you have to buy for certain items

That is about the gist of it
I would recommend play fes first and p3p if you ever feel like replaying it.

>>378485224
Like P4, it's not as good as 5, but it's still a great game in it's own right.

5>4>3>1>2

2 is fucking awful, both of them. so extremely easy and slow and dull. at least 1 had a interesting battle system

>>378486025
>has 4 spinoffs and 2 animes that tell the same damn story.

3 of which have P3 casts

And 3 has 4 movies and a anime tv series trinity souls

>>378489713
>3 of which have P3 casts

Which only shows that ATLUS thinks that the stronger, more relevant brand was P4.

>>378482913
>I don't like persona 5 because it's popular
This is you.

I remember first playing the first Persona on the PS1. I got frustrated with the load times and quit. Was that ever fixed?

>>378489785
Doesn't matter, 3 was milked with 4

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>Not liking Persona 5 cause it's the first completely mainstream entry from the start

Don't be a hipster, OP.

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>>378486079
It's okay, but endless milking turned people sour.

>>378482913
Persona 5 is waaaaaay better you just don't like it hahahaha what a kidder

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>>378485224
Do you remember those days in P5 and P4 where there was kinda of nothing to do? Thats P3 for the first half of the game. Except unlike P4 or P5 there is literally nothing to fucking do. NOTHING

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>>378485342
>New
p3-5 baby spotted

>>378492518
What do you mean you?
The first half of the game is all about fighting the 12 boss shadows, it is only after that when they realized they should have left those shadows alone and know that they fucked up there is nothing much to do.

>>378492801
your retarded

>>378491479
I don't remember the load times being all that bad but the US version did a "NOW LOADING" screen so it might have made it feel like it was worse that it really was.
But either way the PSP version loads pretty quickly.

>>378492801
Did you not remember the massive downtime inbetween all of those bosses? And there's less to do during that downtime than P4 and P5. The pacing is terrible literally everything happens during the last half of the year.

>>378491479
Emulate the PSP version, and then autobattle and speed through random encounters. Makes the game 10x better.

>>378493179
I've heard people complain that the PSP remake took away that old SMT feel and made it feel like 3 and 4 in tone, mostly music wise.

>>378493079
It has been a while since I have played p3, but after the 12th shadow the only plot bosses left are chidori, the rest of strega and nyx right?

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I started with FES years ago and now I'm emulating P2. I want to like it, but the modern games have really spoiled me. Is there any way to make it more bearable?

>>378493278
The new OST have less tracks and generally do not fit the tone of the game, basically

As much as I like Lone Prayer it sucks compared to the original battle theme

>>378493612
(((You)))
Bloody destiny is good, and school days is my jam.

>>378482913
Where would Persona Q be?

>>378493814
Rehashed meme

>>378493341
Yes, you fight strega several times. Ikutsuki goes all evil on you as well. Tfw even when the world is gonna end you still go to school.

>>378493814
Shitty fanfiction tier

>>378493605
Auto battle, emulate them if you can. Just follow a walk through so you won't get frustrated. Speeding through random encounters make the game more enjoyable.

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>>378493341
You know what nevermind me, I don't know why, but I remember the last shado

>>378493278
There's a patch for the music if you have a hard on for the ps1 music.

What's the best way to play the first two Persona games? I got into the series with P3 and always wanted to try out the first two. I know P1 got a PSP remake and only one version of P2 got the same treatment. Play the PSP versions with the one PS1 version or all on PS1?

>>378493853
>>378493917
Why?

>>378494451
Play the PSP remakes.

>>378494489
Cause it's exactly what it is?

>>378494451
PSP versions, the PS1 English releases were heavily butchered.

>>378494563
>It is because I say so
Sound reasoning right there. Actually explain.

>>378482913
Persona 1 sucks ass, the story is cool but the gameplay and leveling system is no bueno.

>>378494451
Play P1 PSP. Then Persona 2 Innocent Sin PSP, and then Eternal Punishment on the PS1. Emulate them.

To be honest I don't care what your favourite persona is, but ever since P4G came out this fanbase has become toxic enough to rival Sonicfags. It somehow got even worse when P5 came out. I hate you all

>>378494489
Speaking as somebody that enjoyed PQ to some extent, it's a reskinned version of another game (Etrian Odyssey) and is an installment in the long line of P3/P4 milking. As for the "fanfiction" part, the plot was contrived and Zen/Rei, though I liked their designs, reeked of "OC do not steal" and were steeped in TV Tropes. Hell, they even go back in Persona 5 and reuse the "going after objects to regain [Rei's/Morgana's] memories" shtick.

>>378494836
Explain

>>378494451
Persona 1's PSP version butchered the amazing ambient/techno soundtrack of the original, make sure to get the patch that puts the original music back in.

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>>378494901
Fuck you anon. The PSP music is great

>Replaying 3 and 4 out of boredom and desire to see things I missed
>Forgot how dreadfully slow everything is
Complain all you want about 5's story but at least it cleaned up a lot of the management and made things smoother

I want to fight Elizabeth and Margaret after ignoring them in the past. Is there a recommended setup for them?
FES and 4 vanilla if it makes a difference

>>378494867
>it's a reskinned version of another game (Etrian Odyssey)
I honestly don't see much wrong in this. I honestly think the dungeon design and combat is done much better in this style than other mainline Persona games.

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>>378495160
Playing Vanilla and not Golden undub.

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>>378495160
>I want to fight Elizabeth
Orpheus telos was practically made to fight elizabeth with.
From what I have heard, orpheus telos and thunder reign is your best chance at beating her you also need satan and Lucy for armageddon when her health is below 9999.
I haven't fought margaret, but I am pretty sure all you need to beat her is japanese steel swung over 8 times, just like any other boss

>>378485224
gameplay wise 3 is the most developed, a much larger variety of enemies, weapons to find and use, quest to do, and strategies to employ. The mini bosses will wreck you till you figure out how to approach each one, but also the lack of fast travel makes it the most tedious one.

Also maxing all links without a guide is basically impossible. You finish with the last one with 3 days left in the game, that's with starting with max stats on a new game+

>>378495145
The PSP music is okay, but the original is so fucking amazing

>>378494896
Something about P4G and P5 has attracted an army of annoying, needy, attention depraved normies. Discussion about P4 and P3 pre-2012 was actually readable. Now it's just absolute simpletons saying the same shit over and over again

>>378495551
don't forget high-counter, liz will hit herself for 450 damage.

>>378495701
Yeah I forgot this, you will also need a calculator so you knew when you can use armageddon.

>>378482913
>putting P3 at the top
>can't control your teammates directly
>final boss even uses this handicap against you with reflect skill

Also, the song that plays when you're in the dorm is horrid.

>>378485806
you all keep fucking it up
swap p5 with p4
swap p3 with p2

>>378482913
Nice to see the Fatlus memes are still accurate ten years on.

>>378495584
It's what happens when your niche series becomes popular.

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>>378484906
>so really the only reason to put it below 3/4 is waifus

Too bad waifus and especially Social Links in P5 are way better than 3/4

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>>378495903
>Also, the song that plays when you're in the dorm is horrid.
No offense, but your taste is complete garbage.

>>378495903
You forgot tartarus and there being nothing to do compared to p4 or p5.

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>>378485224
Gameplay wise, P3 is trash. Even the inferior port P3P is better than PS2 versions

>tfw you cannot control your party members in battles, just give them orders ala DQ4 for Famicom but even worse because they can get tired in battles and do nothing

Just give up, P5 is the only good game in the series when it comes about gameplay

I liked Persona 5 but I don't think i'll ever touch it after beating it. I played the other 2 to 100% but I can't be fucked for 5.

>tartarus
>good
LOOOOL

>>378496132
So the entire game is trash then?

>>378496880
basically yes

>>378497874
I'm trying to play through it right now, past the first boss and the game is pretty boring. I like the music at least

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>>378496564
Reminder that Tartarus is better than the trash in 4.

>>378482913
this

>>378498465
Persona series (or SMT in general) never have bad music though just a bit weak like P4 battle theme or P1 PSP soundtrack

>>378499121
LEAVE THIS BURIED MEMORY

>>378482913
lol lets hate something mainstream even though it added superior improved mechanics to everything the original had and then some. why do i even hang out here. and fyi. 2 was fuctons better then 1. so was 3 and 5. 4 is the only one as close to garbage as 1

>>378495145
Yeah but they are shit compared to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChkMHPP8rv0

Rate them excluding waifus.

I wonder if I should just play another game, Persona 3 has not aged well in the slightest. So many inconvenient aspects, and I can't see any reason for them to be intentional gameplay decisions.

>>378498731
Honestly, why does /v/ makes such a big deal over the random dungeons?

>>378499798
theres no other reason to play
it's a waifu simulator of the highest order

P5 is the best for gameplay
P2 is the best for story

>>378500050
Probably cause there's nothing fun or interesting about them in the slightest.

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

>Run down copy and pasted corridor
>'Here's out chance for an All Out Attack!'

Great gameplay.

>>378500050
They're not fun to play, there's nothing unique added by random dungeons in persona 4 that can justify them over something handcrafted.

>>378482913
Aren't all of these games just infinitely repeating randomly generated dungeon grinds with shitty lore and art design anyway? Why care?

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Persona 3 is the best persona game because of Mitsuru

>>378495145
>The PSP music is great
t. Shoji Meguro

>>378500719
I think that's the worst fan art I've ever seen of her.

>>378485224
P3's story is pretty cool when it's happening, but it only happens in the last 10% of the game.

>>378500280
That's the gameplay of every Persona game including 5 because of Mementos.

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>>378500719
But Maya is best team mom

>>378500280
That's P5 too just replace Corridor with "Wait until the game gives you the Ambush prompt"

>>378500986
I never said it was unique to any of the games, just that it's garbage.

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>>378501020

Can Maya dominate you sexually like Mitsuru?

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>>378482913
3 is personally my favorite but 5 is objectively the best, there's no denying this.

>>378500974
This, Persona 3's story is practically non-existent outside of fighting Strega halfway through the game, the generic shadow bosses every month are completely dull.

Not only that, but the whole Strega subplot had to be explained through supplementary material just to explain why they were Persona using assassins, who don't really directly interact with you for about 70% of the game.

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>>378501020
too bad she is trapped in unplayable garbage games

>>378501465
Like P3

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>>378501304
>the generic shadow bosses every month are completely dull.
What is the train boss?
What is the hotel boss?
What is the Hanged Man fight?

3/10 bait, see me after class.

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>>378501465
nah

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>>378501281
Is Mitsuru's ult Persona a futa?

>>378501615
No, it's Crazy Diamond.

>>378501281
But Mitsuru isn't a dom

>>378501304
>>378500974
People who think this about the game's story either
>haven't played the game in years
>haven't played and instead just read a plot summary on wikipedia
The Strega thing is right though, I just beat the game and besides the whole "we were experimented on" shit I don't know a lick about any of them.
I personally liked the monster of the month setup for all the bosses, but I can see them getting bland.

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>>378495903
I agree with you on those gameplay points, but cmon anon

>thinking Iwatodai Dorm is bad

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Persona 3 has the best S links

>>378501713
>People who think this about the game's story either

I literally beat it the other day, dumbass. 3's story is incredibly poorly paced. Absolutely nothing happens for most of the game except:

>hey I'm the mysterious kid whose role in the story is obvious because my arcana is fucking Death
>I'll show up once every month to say something cryptic
>Okay guys time for the monthly monster fight
>Oh Strega showed up, like, twice, and only become really relevant at the end
>You know Shinji like a month before he dies and don't really get to know him well enough to care
>Most of the social links are garbage except Hierophant, Sun, and Hanged Man

It's only in the last couple months of the game that story ramps up with the Nyx stuff.

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>>378501965
>Forgetting the best social link

>>378493917
>muh story
Q has better gameplay than 3 and 4 combined.

>>378485224
P5 is best but P3 and 4 have unique things that are still great about them. P4G has a ton of slightly hidden content that I didn't figure out until my second playthrough. It has better slice of life moments, group interactions, and the Nanako dies ending. P3 has a better story, more challenging bosses, and my fav waifu. Also le character development meme.

>>378500986
Even mementos had an actual dungeon at the end.

Wouldn't a game that pure kino be all cutscenes, shit gameplay?

Are the people who complain about the battle length in P1 and P2 just unfamiliar with SMT games or are the battles legitimately slow?

>>378502825
Exactly.

>>378502863
They are legit slow. The animation is more dragged out than the later game and there's random encounters to boot

>>378502863

It's more the encounter rate and there being a short delay between each action even on auto battle.

>>378502991
>random encounters
Fucking weak but to be expected. I'm glad ATLUS finally ditched them except for in their first person games.

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>>378502649
>more challenging bosses
Objectively wrong.

>>378502863

With frame skip on emulators it doesn't matter as much though.

>>378503072
P1 is actually first person

>>378482913
Don't even pretend that you remember anything about P1. Its so forgettable and mediocre.
>>378502863
Slow as shit and not fun. P1s battle system is a little better than P2 in my opinion. Also even SMT 1 and 2 have fast battles.

>>378503092
>that
>hard
i always knew p4 fags were bad at video games

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>>378485752
Wait a minute that daruma doll...

The only boss that gave me issues was kanji's shadow, but after that the easy bosses really killed it for me. Git Gud m8

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>>378495903
>Also, the song that plays when you're in the dorm is horrid.