How far away are other devs from catching up to R*?

rockstar games are overrated

Why would thry never do this when the game isn't on PC? There is no way consoles will be able to run the game they want to make.

>>378482843
Think that'd be fromsoft lad

>>378482920
How random.

>>378482712
EVERYWHERE will do it.
No one else will ever.

cool cutscene model

>>378482898
need those bullshots to look top tier

>>378482712
But that's like just a texture.

>>378482898
For the PS5 and NextBox ports in 2 years.

>>378482961
Considering how /v/ attempts to shill them? Not at all.

>>378482898
PS4 Pro is more powerful than a $1200 PC you jabroni shut the fuck up

>>378483072
if you build a 1200 dolar computer wrong it will be a less powerful computer than the play4

>>378482898
It's coming to PC, just live GTAV
>bbbut the last one didn't
Read some of the notes fro mthe Benzies vs. Rockstar case - the original RDR was a fucking mess that almost didn't even ship...

Moreover, how else will Rockstar sell to ruskies and BR?

>>378482712
>doing this
>still won't be able to swim

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>>378483072
>silky smooth 30fps, with frame drops

>>378482712
>Cutscenes have high res detailed textures

Wow so amazing, no other devs do this

>>378483249
Realistically you couldn't swim in all those clothes and boots though

>>378483176
And why would they bother with the PC port before they even released the console version, you jabroni?

>>378483072
Good thing I got a $1900 computer then ya fucking poorfag

>>378483343
i can only swim completely naked

Rockstar are a bunch of fucking Jews, so other companies aren't really that far away as you may think.

>>378483370
>pc port
considering gta 5's pc version wasn't a port and was built from the ground up alongside the console versions, rdr2 will probably be the same

>>378483059
No that's retarded.

>>378483427
Worth about $400 in two months time.

>>378482712
Gonna be honest I don't enjoy rockstart games. I don't get the fuss over reddead because the first one was the same shit as as all their other games.

They're just 3rd person bethesda.

>>378482712
You need some shark cards to get those imperfections

>>378483891
not gonna lie, gta 3 ruined games..

Hopefully for whatever online they do for RDR2 and eventually GTAVI they learn from GTAO, there's some good things about GTAO, but it's horrible in terms of optimization and other issues.

>>378483343
I can and do.

Jim: So when are you going to work on some fun gameplay?

Steve: On what?

>>378482712
Because the majority of the devs are wasting their money on SJW elements and political correctness

>>378484293
>graphic designer
>working on gameplay
I see, /v/ completely understands game developement.

I really hope GTAV hasn't killed R* beyond repair, but it looks like it has already happened.

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>>378484293
>Hey artist working on the models, why aren't you doing the gameplay programming/design?

>>378483952
Dont be stupid

They're called Jackel cards now

>>378484392
Other than not adding story content, they didn't do anything wrong.

But you can tell yourself they did if you want to feel special

I actually worked for Rockstar North in Edinburgh a few years ago.

Ironically the most backwards as fuck, anti technology engine and artist people I've come across. I have no idea how their games even happen.

Literally the most retard bumblefuck development shit. Like, they still have to recompile the entire game if any one thing changes. They still model stuff in like 3ds Max 8 or something.

Honestly they remind me of how nip devs operate. Maybe that's the secret? Keep your offices and workflow as obtuse as possible so only the best and brightest get through the hoopla?

>>378484293
>fun gameplay?
Doesn't sell you games though. Japs can't get this through their head.

>>378483952

One dumb thing I've noticed about shark cards is that while prices and such have gotten more inflated in GTAO, they haven't changed the amounts of the shark cards at all. You can get 8 million for $100, that was a lot at the start, but now it's not enough to buy even some of the most expensive items. And with all the hacker bucks who even would pay for shark cards.

>>378484693
>Like, they still have to recompile the entire game if any one thing changes
Sounds like what the Houser Brothers would do.

>>378484605
>dropped all focus on single player content to continue to rake in money with measly gtao updates

From a business standpoint you are correct. From a spirit of the industry standpoint you are wrong.

Is everyone excited for red dead 2 to be always online? Just 30k for that new horse!

>>378484693
You actually sound like an angry retard. Are you okay?

>>378484810
>Is everyone excited for red dead 2 to be always online?
Pretty hyped. Someones gotta have the balls and take the leap of courage Why not rockstar?

>>378484769
they know what they're doing

>>378484693
Great blog you nerd

>>378484805

While I do agree that I really would have liked them to have done something more for singleplayer, the GTAO updates themselves have been pretty good at least it felt like for me coming back after a long break.

>>378484605
Different anon - GTAV didn't kill Rockstar by any means, but it definitely was a disappointment to me. Lame story, the missions kinda suck, lackluster gameplay, 2 out of 3 main characters are boring and the multiplayer is fucked (and I don't mean just the players).The only reason GTAV is "good" is because it runs on an amazing engine. As it is, I've found myself playing GTAIII/VC/SA these days.
I got to the point where I need to get the three guys together to start a mission, but it says that the mission can't be started now, so I just took that as the game saying it doesn't want me playing anymore and I've moved on to greener and more fun pastures.

But hey, it's their game, and I guess if they want spend their time selling shark cards to people with too much disposable income, I have no say in the deal.

>>378483891
Red Dead Redemption was pretty disappointing. Years of everybody saying it's the best fucking game ever bla bla bla, oh god John Marston is such an amazing character, best open world game ever....

And I dunno, I didn't play that game. I got a 7/10 open world game with good production values and no bad moments but at the same time very few moments that stood out. All the guns felt the same (although that's just the setting I guess), and there was no real interesting story until John gets his family back and you get to see their family dynamic. All the cowboy parts of it were just going back and forth between random wild west caricatures doing errands so they could point you in the general direction of HAVIAR ESCWELA.

Also, they totally underused the Mexican Revolution.

Somebody who loved RDR please redpill me, what did I miss?

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>>378482712
>7th gen Max payne 3, gta V, GTA IV, TLAD,TBOGT, LA Noire
>8th gen Red Dead redemption 2

This kinda sucks
if they follow the same pattern as GTA V's release
Red dead 2 is going to be the only new rockstar game we are going see this generation and for pretty much the rest of the next generation to milk it completely dry with staggered platform releases and microtransactions, and then the cycle will repeat again at the end of the 9th gen

>>378482843
They really are. When you think about it even GTA is just a combination of a bunch of other horribly done genres.

Sucks as a driving game, sucks as a shooter, sucks as a stealth game, sucks as a racing game... but somehow when you slap it all together it just works out.

RDRedemption was the first and is currently the only genuinely good R* game.

>>378485181
Nothing. The game is just massively overhyped here because Sonyfriends are insufferable and its not on PC. Thats it. The minute RDR2 is announced for PC you should watch how the sonyposters react on this board.

These threads are an almost repeat of the GTAV threads before the PC announcement.

>>378485414
>Sucks as a driving game, sucks as a shooter, sucks as a stealth game, sucks as a racing game
So much sucking yet they have the highest level praise. Every think you're just biased out the ass and hate them?

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>>378482712
Very far

>>378484605
I suppose Valve also "didn't do anything wrong" when they decided to stop making videogames and instead focus on digital hats, because after all it's what their customer base was asking for, and that's what we got.

>>378485595
No, because even I played the shit out of the GTA games. I just recognize that the controls have always been awful and the graphics sub-par, even for their time. Honestly, how long did you spend trying to wrangle the retarded little RC vehicles in Vice City?

RDR is amazing though, which was the focus of the thread. Don't know why you're getting pissy.

>>378482712
>style over substance
Not far at all.

>>378485181
Judging from the few big RDR and GTA fans I know you have to be a "feels" gamer to really love them. They have somewhat weak gameplay so I don't really jive with them very well, but if you're into the cinematic experience (and I don't mean that as a pejorative) then you're more likely to enjoy them I think.

Rockstar has good marketing but don't fall for it. They said the shooting details for GTAV would be like Max Payne 3's sans the bullet time of course and it really wasn't.

>>378487240
Except it was...

>>378487371
you really think so?

>>378485414
This

GTA is a relic of the 90s. The last GTA game I played, and even enjoyed was GTA3/Vice. The gameplay int he games themselves are sluggish, and ganky. Not in a good way either.

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>>378482898

So he's that guy whose one job was to do sock textures.

>>378487371
It wasn't. GTA 4's violence/shooting was better than GTA 5.

In terms of their games with shooting mechanics, I'd go Max Payne 3 > RDR > GTA 4 > GTA 5

>>378484769
>And with all the hacker bucks who even would pay for shark cards.
They make about $2 billion a year from shark cards.
Does it really matter "who" is buying them?

>>378484693
Guess they figure if it ain't broke why fix it?

>>378482712
you're a retard if you think someone went in with a brush and painted those little dents in

PBR texturing workflows of the past 10 years have incorporated automatic application of base textures as the first step, the first thing someone would do after UV unwrapping that gun model is apply a blanket metal texture from a company library that already has scratches, dents, dust etc applied

and even if it wasn't automatic, even if someone DID do that shit by hand, what's impressive about it? is this the first time you fucking underage console shits have seen a texture over 1024x1024?

retards

>>378483059
>liking something is shilling

You sound butthurt, anon. Got a confession to make?

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>>378484693
How true are the Rockstar horror stories? Apparently the San Diego studio is absolute dogshit to work for.

>>378484391
>thinks 3D modeling/asset authoring is called "graphic design"

jesus fucking christ

>>378482712
No tactical advantage WHATSOEVER

>>378488340
came here to greentext what this anon greentexted

>>378483703
Consoles lose 70% of their market value the moment you take them out of the shop.

>>378488349
And here I thought artists had it easier than the other jobs.

>>378482712
I mean, that's nice that they're making detailed models for the promotional screenshots, but ingame it's literally just the normal and roughness textures.

>>378482898
Unless its first person, even on PC, I never notice these small details.

>>378485992
Valve is thinking long term, they wanted to become the PC games platform and they sort of did. But also they're protective of their IP so the dumbasses won't license their games to other studios.

>>378488709
I remember when crates came out I thought they were fucking dumb and no one would ever buy that shit. I guess I'm not rich for a reason.

>>378482712
Suck I have to buy this on ps4. It sucks when I have to compromise. I fucking hate that they are going to make me re-buy this shit when it comes out on PC.

>>378489363
You can easily wait six months

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>>378489363
>when it comes out on PC.

>>378486739
this
gotta look at some rockstar games as a somewhat poorly written movie rather than a great game

its the same thing with every gta, bully, both red deads, la noire

>>378489603
>I'm happy with gimped shit
lol, ok.
But yeah, that's what I thought too with GTAV. I fucking bought that game 3 times due to their money grubbing staggered bullshit.

>>378490431
Don't put words in my mouth, broski. I made no assertion to my acceptance of the fact that it won't be on PC, so why make an assumption of how I feel?

>>378490431
>game only has two editions
>you bought it three times
>somehow rockstars fault
>???????????????

>>378490701
PS3, PS4 and then PC. They released all at seperate times. I also did this because I had nothing to play on my PS4 at the time and I will be waiting for the PC version of RDR2.

There is a tripfag in the GTA general on /vg/ who verifiably works for R* and he says its a delayed release for double dipping.

>>378482712
Why.

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>>378483072

Yeah if you buy a 5960x with a GT710, then of course the PS Pro will run games better

>>378490925
Yeah, pretty much this. I can wait. I got more than enough shit to keep me occupied for a long time.

>>378484186

I just hope it's not another case of trickling out new features for online like they did GTA 5. Some of that shit should have been in from day 1.

>>378491512

Yeah I agree, it took them way too long to implement heists. They started getting better with the updates as time went on.

>>378485261

When you sell 80 million+ copies of a game and then make an additional half a BILLION dollars in micro-transactions, you can can get away with only releasing one game per generation.

>>378490925
But wasn't the PS4 and PC version announced at the same time? If that's true, then you bought the PS4 version knowing you would end up being it a third time in the near future. Were you that impatient that you couldn't just be settled with the PS3 version until the (then known) PC version arrived?

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>>378482712

Not a matter of 'catching up'

Haven't you seen what other games are already out?

Bloodborne, Horizon, even going back a little bit to Arkham Knight and Uncharted 4

ARE YOU BLIND OR SOMETHING?

RDR2 looks that good because they built it from the ground up for current gen consoles.

>>378482712
these textures are procedural generated. not that its super easy to do or anything but its not like some guy is creating these textures pixel by pixel in photoshop or something.

>>378482712
All I've learned about video games is that the higher the visual quality, the lower the functional quality. So I'm looking forward to never playing this and only watching glitch/bug videos.

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>>378482712
Leagues, I love when devs put those attention to details

>>378482712
you retards realize this is 2017 ? AAA studios have the technology to just scan models and textures from real life objects...

>implying some faggot sculpting on Zbrush doesn't go full autist with details

>>378482712
Ah yes. Rockstar games. Cheating at technology since the late 1990s.

>>378492259
The mipmaps on that shit must be fucking ridiculous

>>378483072
>PS4 pro cant even run Destiny 2 at 60 fps
POWER TO THE PLAYERS

>>378492259

Where is this from?

>>378483072
Nope. There's an Alienware PC with a 7700k and 1080 for 1150 right now. Your days are numbered console consuela.

>>378485414
>Sucks as a driving game

Players literally begged for that in V. Give them what they want, I guess.

>>378485414
>RDRedemption was the first and is currently the only genuinely good R* game.
I hated RDR though, game was boring as batshit

SILKY SMOOTH

>>378483072
lmao. I will only give consoles this. You probably have a better bet at getting a $400 console to run better or at least the same as $400 PC. But no console will beat a 1200 dollar PC you fucking moron

>let's pour countless man hours and resources into this meaningless details that only the smallest percentile of people will notice, let alone give a shit about

How do I into smart business decisions?

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>>378483254
you should all be banned for replying to bad bait

>>378493024
A game with (((actual graphics)))

>>378482712
The day the other developers learn that casuals are just regular humans that only have 15-30 min to play a game instead of complete retards, they might get closer.
But if you waste those 15/30 min with something horribly bland, a forced tutorial or both, you just lost the casual, no matter how easy you made the enemies etc..

>>378497298
Don't you know you're letting dumb people off the hook by calling everything bait?

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>>378488349
>tfw one of my friends fell for the work in the video game industry meme and applied for rockstar san diego
should i be honest and tell him video games are a shit career choice and to branch into something else or let him suffer?

>>378482712
Tiny metal imperfections give you no tactical advantage whatsoever