Name your most rage-inducing game mechanic

fall damage
guns not being hitscan

>>378481135

encumbrance

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>>378481135
>random encounters

Unit upkeep

Either hunger or environmental temperature.

Solid camera

Random chance

>>378481224
I wanna gut niggas alive for this

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Smirk combined with your teammates' AI in SMTIV. The fact that nobody, at any point int hat games development though that it was fucking stupid the way it is blows my mind.

Lack of autosave

>>378481135
player controlled teammates

tank controls
save points
random encounters
have to hold a face button to run normally

>>378481906
I don't mind that, what I do mind is when the game asks you if you want to save after you choose quit and then if you say yes the very next prompt will warn you that any unsaved progress will be lost if you quit.

>>378481135
Random encounters in jRPGs

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Any heat seeking grappling enemy. Was pretty jarring going from RE4 to RE5 when if you timed and baited an enemy correctly in RE4 you could avoid damage. Yet in RE5 they just 360 noscope grab you for damage.
Same thing with Dying Light, if you come within a certain distance of a zombie you get locked into a damaging animation. Doesn't even let you dodge. Yes of course I'm aware of the skills that let you escape quickly, don't be a fuck.

>>378481210
I bet you love Overwatch, faggot

>>378481135
Required backtracking.

Fail states
Game overs

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>action or fighting game
>enemy has similar move set to you
>but they don't flinch

Knockback + precision platforming

>>378481135
Locking progress behind limitations that have nothing to do with your performance. Like "You need to have rank xx to pilot this ship and to obtain that rank you need to grind out exp". If you're clever and resourceful enough to obtain high end equipment before you were supposed to, you should be rewarded for it by actually being allowed to fucking use it.

durability

>>378481135
Escort

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>>378481135
QTEs

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Randomized gear stats

Not able to remap keys and not able to solo, I don't like playing with others.

Games that have guns that aren't hitscan, but with bullet speed that is really fast and short engagement distances that it might as well be and only serves to fuck over people not hosting in Multiplayer.

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WEIGHT LIMIT

STATS AS FUCKING BARS OR LETTERS INSTEAD OF NUMBERS

WHO LIKES THIS SHIT

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>having to complete somthing in a certain amount of in game time
>basically recettear or atelier games
They would be so comfy but instead they're anxiety inducing..

>>378481135
Multiplayer

Losing non key consumable items when you start new game+

Why the fuck would you give me loads of it if it couldnt carry over?

>Escort mission
>They move slower than your run
>They move faster than your walk
>You have to stay within a few feet of them the whole time
>They run independently of you, and don't stop if there are enemies
>If you get separated you have to redo the entire thing
Fuck you Nier. Fuck you.

>>378482284
This

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>199/200 collectibles

Anything that breaks immersion. I want to feel like I'm in a simulation of real life, not cartoon land.
Unless I'm playing Mario or something.

>>378481135
Teammate gets extra/less/no exp through a mechanic you have no/little control over

Super armor on enemy all because of player exploit (actual skill)

>>378482340
I was about to second this but thinking about it I'm not even sure if QTEs count as a mechanic

>items have durability
>you can't repair them
or
>it slowly gets more expensive to repair items

>>378482460
I can understand weight limit and can see it being done decently at least, but the latter I have to completely agree with. Especially if the game doesn't really explain in depth what each stat does in detail.

Convoluted crafting systems that take an absurd amount of grinding to make anything worthwhile.

BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL
Even worse when the screen loses color because of it.
How the fuck am I supposed to evade if I can't see where I'm being shot from? Fuck western games.

Xp barriers on gear, especially on crappy common gear that you get often from drops. Like you're telling me i have to level up twice to wear these crappy common greaves that only give +1 armor? This crap is just cluttering up my inventory. I also hate it when you're playing a shooter campaign, particularly on a higher difficulty, that forces you to run trough a place with no cover for an objective or because of a time limit. Bonus points if you are against infinitely respawning, hitscan wielding enemies.

>slippery ice platforms

Rubber banding

>Equipment degradation
>Invisible walls
>Infinitely respawning enemies
>"You're leaving the mission area! Turn back now!"

>>378482789
some of RE6 did it right but it was more optional than anything, which is a good deal

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Conveying stats as bars instead of numbers.

>>378481135

X-Factor (or any come from behind mechanic on any fighting game).

If you're getting fucking bodied, you do not deserve anything.

Completely killed Marvel for me.

>match starts
>i fuck up / get outplayed MULTIPLE times throughout the match and now have one character left and he still has 2-3 left
>suddenly
>he makes ONE mistake
>X-FACTOR MAHVEL BABY
>i now have the ability to sweep his entire team

How is OK?

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>enemy level scale

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>>378483089
>NPC falls off motorcycle
>.05 seconds after it goes off-screen, he's back on it and going at a decent speed

devs forgetting they are making a video game and not a real life simulator

>>378483351

Comebacks have been a part of fightan since 95. If you fuck up and give your opponent an opening to wreck you, you deserve every last inch of fucking you get.

No possibility for comebacks just means you can get too complacent.

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>>378481135
Inventory limits in games not about survival/resource management, overburden, fall damage, level scaling enemies while it's possible to level up from raising non-combat applicable stats.

Any poorly done mini game that's mandatory. If it's a well done mandatory mini game, sure it breaks off from the game's main gameplay, but at least it'd still be fun. But if it's badly done you're breaking off from the main gameplay in exchange for unfun shit.

Any game that has a variation of the confusion status. You know what I'm talking about. Any status that makes your allies attack you, or themselves, or help the enemy, or throw away rare items you can't get back. Because I LOVE the feeling of "Oh wow, I'm getting completely screwed for no reason, just because the game said so! That's fine!"

Level scaling, be it loot or enemies. I like to stumble on rare artifacts by accident or by following that trail of breadcrumbs to it, not just have it generated for me. Same with enemies, I like to stumble into the wrong neighborhood and have my shit fucked if I don't turn back.

In the case of Oblivion leveling everything to 100 has the effect of making every enemy into a ridiculous damage sponge.

Timed missons...JUST LET ME CHILL FUCK THAT SHIT MAKES ME ANXIOUS AS FUCK!

>>378483728
>Any status that makes your allies attack you
If it's an actiony game and not turn-based, what's wrong with this?

>>378481135
instant-kill spikes

>>378482028
>he cant 1 track a tank online

>>378483728
I think those are so fucking funny. Someone post the webm where Aigis casts Diarahan on the boss and DSP immediately quits the game.

children that cant handle challenging gameplay and devs that think listening to them will somehow generate more sales

>>378483959
What the hell is okay about your only allies suddenly killing you for no reason besides "Sorry man, computer says I have to fuck you up now"?

>>378481135
>>378481283
>>378482460
this
>>378482620
i tried to beat re4 but i can't cuz half the game is just shitty escort mission

also
>putting roguelike meme to every new game which only ruins progression and all fun
>putting QTE for no reason in every new game
>cheating ai in racing
forza horizon 3, nfs most wanted - when you get past ai they get speed boost and they also doesn't lose much speed while taking turns also they don't drift),
>cheating in rts games
total war series, dawn of war - free resources out of nowhere, warhammer total war ai is the worst, you can beat ai then after 3 turns he comes back with even bigger and fully healed army and just destroy you)
>cheating ai in open world games like gta
cops just pop in out of nowhere

The only thing that makes me mad is inconsistent game mechanics.

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>>378481135
>game literally is designed around the idea of grinding, you will HAVE to grind, and experience the same content for progressively longer times based on difficulty

I love persona but I've never finished a game because of this.

I want an actual CHALLENGE, I don't have the time for this. Plenty of patience but fucking hell I have university damnit I can't do this

Rollback netcode on fighting games.
That doesn't actually work.

>>378483432
boss scaling is fine though.

>>378484384
overcoming the emerged challenge

Carrying too many items slows you down, or makes you unable to run

Let me loot to my heart's content, fucking devs

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>>378481135
slippery controls
momentum

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>>378481224
seconding encumbrance

>>378484519
watch a let's play then
it's clear you dont even like playing video games so why torture yourself?

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>qtes
>no quick save/load

level scaling

>>378484629
That's not challenge though. All it does is take control away from you, with the flip of a switch. The computer didn't have to earn that confusion. It just pressed a "fuck you" button, and now I have to deal with that shit. Sure, it makes things more difficult. But it's not challenge. It's just lazy and annoying.

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>>378481135

>Enemy's turn

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>walking with NPC
>you walk slightly faster than them
>need to awkwardly stop every few seconds so they can catch up

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>>378481135
>playing rpg
>next level: 50
>reach next level
>next level: 150

I get just about every rpg under the sun does it this way and it's a standard, but I really never cared for it. it's just so passive and thoughtless. it's also a bitch to balance and games usually do a poor job conveying what a good level to be is. you're either too powerful or not powerful enough. chrono cross did it reasonably well, where you'd only get stat increases from boss fights, and it felt like you earned it, instead of being able to grind on weak enemies and essentially break the game.

also,

>unlockable difficulties

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>grinding
>level scaling
>excessive backtracking
>platform hell segments in games that otherwise aren't really designed around them (fucking White Palace)
>stiff/slippery controls
>tank controls in a fucking platformer
>stunlocking

the rest of your party not sharing xp from combat and then being forced into your main party for certain bosses despite absurdly low levels

>>378481135
Not even a game mechanic but un-skippable cutscenes
Just let people skip them, holy fucking shit
I cant replay pokemon sun and moon cus this shit

>>378481224
holy fuck this
i had to remove the weight limit when playing new vegas because it was fucking annoying

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>>378484019
>Touch spikes from the side
>Die

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>>378481135
Any enemy that can stun and heal/summon more enemies in a turn based rpg.

>>378484883
you also have access to that fuck you switch

>>378481135

Knockback from taking any damage. No matter if it's just the player character, or the enemy, or both. That shit fucking infuriates me. No one gets knocked BACK by getting hit. Down, maybe. Staggered, sure. But knocked the fuck back? No. Just stop.

Cryptid puzzles
>Oh remember that one lantern on your room 20 minutes ago that you couldn't pick when you first went there? Yes that's the item you need to lighten up the dark dungeon to progress the game but it's only now interactive!

I also hate the zelda influence on games because of this.

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>>378485106
>>378481224
>>378484779
>tfw you share the board with people this retarded

>>378485231
>implying any enemy worth using status ailments on isn't completely immune to them

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>turn based game
>attack does medium high damage and stuns for TWO (2) turns

>>378484974
why can't escort missions ever just have them walk at the same speed as you?

>>378484807
>Watch a lets play

It doesn't work like that dummy, the worst offenders of grinding is PRG's. If I can't 1. Chose my own dialogue choices and 2. Experience content in a non-linear fashion then I'll lose my fucking mind

I have over 1000 hours on Warframe and I enjoy it because that's where the substance of the game is, in it's minute to minute gameplay.

I can only watch the exact same animations, and here the EXACT SAME BATTLE MUSIC so many times before before I want to bash my skull in. Especially when theres the little to no gameplay verity in Persona and other turn based style RPGs after you've figured out the optimal battle strategy.

heck off nerd i love games >;^(

>>378485289
>Game has a combo system
>Can't complete anything because moving resets the combo and the enemy gets knocked back a little for every hit

Enemy attack tracking, this is the biggest reason Dark Souls enemies even pose a challenge honestly, the AI is pretty mediocre. Comparing the enemy attacks in Phantasy Star Online 1 to 2, the enemies in PSO1 are stuck attacking in the direction they started from just like the player but it was also a slower game.

>>378485321
>actually liking weight limits in LOOT based games
kill yourself

>>378485341
Because the escortee will get ahead of you as you're fighting things, and you're unable to catch up.

Well designed escort missions have the target moving slightly slower than the player everytime.

>>378481135
Not so much a mechanic, but falling-off difficulty.

I have the worst habit of quitting games right around the 80-85% mark because of this. Early game is a struggle, middle game is easier, and when you finally hit the last 15-20% of the game you are usually so hilariously overpowered or competent that you know for a fact nothing they can throw at you will be a challenge. At that point, I simply put down so many games because I lose all motivation to play. I can't even remember how many final bosses I have just flat-out ignored or missed because the end of the game is so piss-easy that I can't even bring myself to complete it.

>>378481135
Death pits

>>378481224
Fucking this.
There's no challenge in not being able to carry things you find (except for inventory tetris games), it just limits your pacing on open world games for really no fucking reason
>Durr realism
But you're still able to carry 15 guns on your backpack anyway, but carrying 15 guns plus an apple makes you slow.

>>378485382
>after you've figured out the optimal battle strategy.
You can't do this in Persona though because of how persona leveling works

>game where story isn't important
>all levels are locked and must be finished in a linear order

>>378485447
Pso2 mobs track you?

stun locking
I just beat KH DDD and getting all your health drained by Ansem's bowling balls of death fucking sucks since once you get hit you cant really do much. Stun locking is only good if there's a system like DS's poise to go with it

>>378485329
im pretty sure you can become immune to confuse or charm spells in some way

>>378485473
Well designed escort missions don't exist because they all suck
But the least infuriating are those where the escortee changes speed up dinamically depending on how far it is from you.

>>378485613
Certain enemies track you with some attacks but it's not as bad as the Souls games.

>Phantom Brave
>bounce mechanics

Lack of fast travel or having to unlock fast travel in a stupid way

>>378481135
respawning enemies

Having to mash a button/move the analog real fast to get out of a stun.
Bonus points if enemies can cause that with little to no downtime and may kill you at full health if you don't get away fast enough.

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>level scaling
>enemy has gained an extra turn!
>AI can see you in the fog of war
>enemy has stolen an item!
>you can't sleep because enemies are around
>you slept in a bed and got a disease
>enemy rubberbands to you in a race

>>378483805
This

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>>378485463
>fallout is loot based
this is what bethdrones actually believe.

>>378485575
>Elemental weakness: ???
>Spam elements until you find out
>Weakness: Fire
>Switch to fire persona
>win every fight

I played half the game on hard and it was fucking easy the problem was that there was no challenge. It was just a huge timesink, even the fucking boss' have scripted and abusable habits and actions that have triggers. That in itself isn't that bad because you only experience them once but it does help cement my point.

>>378482757
Then go OUTSIDE

>>378485382
yea but like persona is all about the story right? just like watch all the story bits on youtube or the wiki page
that way you can concentrate on your studies and not waste time on game mechanics that make you mad

wake up ultras

>>378485569
I wish more games did inventory tetris. I fucking love that shit.

>>378485530
>last boss is the easiest in the game

because if you can't finish you won't buy the sequel. that's why I loved TTYD. the shadow queen slaps your shit six ways to sunday.

>>378481135
Weapon durability with things that aren't particularly fragile such as metal bats and firearms. Two mags through a rifle should not noticeably affect its performance.

>>378481135
Boss battles.

>>378485919
But you can't stick to a single strategy because you must fuse personas, which means your party is always changing, which means you cannot use a single strategy all game long.

>>378485530
how would you know any of that if you havent actually killed the last boss?

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>have multiple stats you can level
>literally impossible to max all of them

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>>378481135
Durability
Carry weight

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>>378482719
I fucking hated inFamous 1 for this shit

>349/350 shards

>>378486137
This is good, though. I hate it when games include RPG elements that are actually just fake choices.

>>378481135
Anything with cheating AI. RTS games are the fucking worst for it, giving out extra resources, faster training times, less upkeep on units (looking at you, Total War), and letting them see through the fog of war. It's infuriating because you know when you get beaten that it was only because the AI got special treatment.

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>>378481224
>finish stalker shadow of chernobyl
>don't have all the money in the world so I only get the exoskeleton when in the sarcophagus
>I basically only had the ability to carry shit I wanted at the very end of the game
>no NG+ besides with mods
fucking hell

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>>378486137
>Have multiple stats you can level
>Only one is actually viable

>>378486137
>I want all my characters to be clones

>>378485915
with all the shit you can pick up it pretty much is anon

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>>378481135
>inventory can slow you down
>weapon durability
>improper scaling
>cant level every single stat
>in inventory some weapons take up MORE than a single box

>>378484386

>when you get past ai they get speed boost and they also doesn't lose much speed while taking turns also they don't drift

Holy fuck this so much once I was playing NFS The Run and I was gonna win, I was giving everything the car had, turbo and all, then out of no fucking where a rival showed up and passed me in the last 10 meters

Bullshit pure bullshit

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>money uses item slots

>>378486056
You really can

I don't get the fusing meme, sure I used it, but you can just level a persona by GRINDING until its stuff is relevant to the level your on.

+picking and choosing the right personas to fuse to get want you want is easy with catalogues. And then you can farm personas to fuse, and you know exactly which you need to fuse to get specific abilities and elements etc etc.

You eventually just build the perfect collection of Personas, thats what happened to me. The game divulged to just leveling them to keep on par with enemies stats.

But I don't need to even explain that to make my point, think about it this way dude:
>Enemies will always have a weakness
>Once you find out the weakness it becomes easily exploitable
>Exploit
>Rinse and repeat
That's persona in a nutshell.

Maybe 5 isn't like that, when I can emulate it I guess I'll find out.

>>378481135
>block with shield
>still take damage
Why is this allowed ever?

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>>378486470
>3 different kinds of currency in game
>only 1 of them really matters
>rare as hell
>best items in game cost hundreds of rare currency

>>378481135
>weapon accuracy is arbitrary
>upgrading your weapon's accuracy looks like it did something on the stats
>but a shitty pistol you grabbed from a box is more accurate while the stat shows it having less accuracy
>enemies shoot accurately than you with the same weapons

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>>378481135
>Enemy can turn your allies against you

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>hurr durr this guy weighs a few thousand pounds so if one of his limbs lands within 5 feet of you the shockwave is strong enough to damage the structural integrity of your body

>>378486567
>you can just level a persona by GRINDING
No, you can't. They'll stop learning skills very quickly, the only way to get higher level skills is fusing into different, higher personas.
>Enemies will always have a weakness
No, there are plenty without a weakness.

I have the distinct impression that you don't know the games you're talking about, anon.

For Total Warhammer in particular: the ai factions treating you like a cancerous leper half the game and wanting nothing to do with you until they have one city left that is being besiged by like 8000+ chaos and now they suddenly want an alliance get yourself fucked. Also fuck chaos charriots and how much the ai cheats in general, sending out wave after wave of stacks.

>>378481135
Story level caps
Ex: FFXIII

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>can only buy/craft things one item at a time

>>378485993
Dude I don't hate games, I like playing them, I don't hate all games that have a grinding mechanic in them.

I like to play these games, and it frustrates me that I begin to not be able to because of these mechanics, I'm mad because I can't play.

>>378486601
Do you really think a wooden shield would absorb the full impact of a hammer?

>>378481135
That kind of stealth mechanics that automatically resets you to the start of the level when you're spotted.

>>378486785
Then have it do chip damage when you're attacked by a hammer and not a fucking knife, at least

>>378486183

But infamous showed in our map the collectibles

>>378481135
poison. Bonus points for poisonous swamps

>>378486731
Every time I feel like playing a Total War game, I remember single towns having two 20-stack armies and just lose all motivation.

Never forget Martydom in Cod 4.

>>378486708

He thinks he will emulate persona one day. Just let him shitpost in peace

>>378486935
>Can only carry 10 of the same item at once
>Buy 10 antidotes
>You get re-poisoned instantly after using one

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>game has NG+/NG++
>only way to play through it without being slaughtered is to farm rare weapons
>said rare weapons will only last you two levels at best before being outclassed by the most common of common weapons
>repeat

arbitrary time limits

>excessive time gating
Fuck you Warframe, fuck you ACNL

>>378485047
>tank controls in a fucking platformer

I really hope you're talking about Croc and not Jumping Flash, that game still plays like a dream.

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>ctrl+f Tripping
Shameful

>>378486868

2 did.

>>378482383
>I don't like playing with others.
dumb autists like yourself should learn then.

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>ESCORT MISSIONS

>>378485530
Speaking of difficulty

>Game automatically drops dicciculty if you die
Fuck you Kid Icarus Uprising. That mechanic was the most retarded thing ever.

Dying over and over on harder difficulties is literally trial and eoor where you correct those mistakes till you get it right. Automatically dropping the difficulty upon death doesn't make you get better at the game.

>>378485875
>you slept in a bed and got a disease
This has only ever happened to me in modded TES games. What other games do this?

>>378482460

I like weight limits. I think they are realistic, they give you a reason to go and sell stuff and they force you to consider what you will bring on adventures.

>>378486708
>No, you can't. They'll stop learning skills very quickly, the only way to get higher level skills is fusing into different, higher personas.
And? That doesn't make them useless. Sure they'll fall off over time but then I just google the combination of personas I need to make the persona I need to beat the level. Perhaps if I didn't google it and found personas naturally it's make your point more relevant but I don't have the time to farm and fuse and level all those personas to play organically like that.
>No, there are plenty without a weakness.
Sure there are, is there however and exploitable strategy to beat them? In most cases, yes. Like stun attacks etc.
>I have the distinct impression that you don't know the games you're talking about, anon.

I wouldn't be having a conversation about this if I wasn't passionate, anon <3

Stunlocking and any other mechanic that takes control away from the player. Fuck you, Limbo. Wish I could get a refund.

>>378481135
>jrpg
>not turn based

>>378487034
Fucking Borderlands.

>>378483146
I like weapon degradation. It's realistic.

Timed missions
Escort missions
Money becoming useless after a certain point (e.g 10 hours in in any TES game, Fable, etc)

>>378487084
sorry anon but whats timegating?

>>378481135
platformers that don't track collectibles like mario sunshine and it's blue coins

>>378484519
>I love persona but I've never finished a game because of this.

You are such a fucking retard, I have to call you out. First of all, "Persona" is a series of fucking games. Do you mean Persona 1 and 2, or Persona 3 and 4? ALSO, you fucking retard, they don't REQUIRE you to grind and are definitely NOT designed around you "grinding", you fucking retard. The dungeon crawling gameplay is meant to be fun, you idiot.

I will never understand you fucking faggots and your absolutely irrational seething autistic hate of turn based RPGs. How is a turn based RPG where you have to think and use strategy a "grind", but mashing the same combo over and over again in Bayonetta to get through common enemies to see a cutscene NOT a grind?

You don't have to "grind" in any of the Persona games, and if you don't want to, you can easily turn the difficulty to "Beginner" or "Easy" which awards you more EXP and money than you'll ever need.

Also:

>If I can't 1. Chose my own dialogue choices and 2. Experience content in a non-linear fashion then I'll lose my fucking mind

Then you CLEARLY don't "love" Persona, because Persona has BOTH OF THOSE FUCKING THINGS. YOU RETARD.

DON'T CLAIM THAT YOU LOVE A GAME IF YOU CLEARLY DON'T. HOLY SHIT.

If you come back at me by responding, "Oh, I like the dating sim parts but not THE GRIND" then GO PLAY A FUCKING VISUAL NOVEL. Without Persona's gameplay (the dungeon crawling), you literally have a subpar visual novel about a bunch of high school students. If you want to go read a story about a bunch of Japanese high school students, there are a ton of visual novels I can recommend to you.

Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you

>game has iron sights and random weapon scatter

Unmodded STALKER

games that tout shit that the enemies are on an equal level to you yet blatantly cheat, ie racing games with rubberbanding, the Souls games with enemies having infinite stamina/shockwaves/attacks going through walls, etc.

>>378487128

And 1 too I remember it because if it didnt I wouldnt have get the plat

>>378484420
inconsistencies make me red hot mad

>>378487320
borderlands 1 wasn't so bad with this, hell i played through the majority of the game and DLCs NG+ with a level 48 jakobs pistol

2 and pre sequel were fucking cancer with it though

>>378487223
It literally makes them useless. Take healing spells. If you use Dia all game long, then you'll get fucked by the aoe boss since you don't have access to Media.
>Sure there are, is there however and exploitable strategy to beat them?
Of course there is, and it is usually different from "hit the weakness." They exist to force you to do different things anon.

RNG in multiplayer games. ASSFAGGOTS, CSGO, it's all such cancer.

Instakills based on chance

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>>378486183
>>378482719
>Just Cause 2 has 3000 collectible items and a ton of hidden chaos objects
>One water tower doesn't spawn because of a glitch, so it's impossible to actually get 100%
Thankfully, 3 made it so it's actually pretty easy to get 100%.

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>Game has Autosave
>Can't be disabled

>>378487673
too bad 3 was a pile of flaming garbage

>>378487638
RNG at all is retarded.

Anybody who thinks Fire Emblem is Strategic or a Roleplaying Game is a fucking retard. It's practically a visual novel with basic ass mobile-tier gameplay now.

>Enemies don't drop their weapons

>Sandbox game gives you fun toys to use in one mission and then never again

>>378487638
I disagree. It's bad if RNG decides outcomes of entire matches, but minor rng mechanics add unpredictability and excitement. Like Spiritbreaker's 17%.

motherfucking turret sections

>>378487764

Was it or are you just memeing me?

>>378486815
I'm okay with this. I like stealth, but I'm shitty at it. If I can keep going through the game despite being spotted, it ends up barely being a stealth game because I fuck up so often and just power through it. It's less fun that way and it feels cheap. I'll often end up resetting after being spotted.

>>378486815
>Stealth section in a non stealth game

>>378487638
Wew lad never play hearthstone, 50/50s regularly decide tournaments

>weekly dungeons
>runes and mastery

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>>378481135
>chicken blocking

>>378487829
>Enemies don't drop their weapons
The only games that really pissed me off for this was the Fable series.

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>higher difficulty
>AI just gets free shit

>>378487638
im neutral towards rng in games but for some reason i really appreciate it in coh1/2. It makes risk management important and makes game feel a bit more alive. I dislike when units shoot at eachother and always hit. Also adds a layer of ways to balance the game via accuracy/scatter and so on. I understand if somone dislikes that though.

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>>378487953
Not that guy. I loved it, but it's worse in some ways, and some people hate it.

>>378487953
it's terribly optimized compared to 2 and the gameplay was mangled, no rolling, ADS is an unlock, lots of shit is hidden behind the crappy unlock system, you can't throw c4, etc. It was also made for consoles first, so a lot of key rebinds don't work and certain segments like jet flying you have to play with a controller or your missiles won't lockon. also fucking ALWAYS ONLINE BULLSHIT.

look at some of the steam reviews to see just how terrible it is

>>378487585
Your ignoring my other points anon, It's not like I kept izunagi till the end of the game.

>Of course there is, and it is usually different from "hit the weakness." They exist to force you to do different things anon.
Yes, and, funny enough, thats an exploitable strategy isn't it? Once you know that, it makes the encounter the exact same thing everytime does it not?

And then for the next 10 hours + of gameplay its the exact same damn thing, it all raps around to my first point.

>>378488292
But it's not. You're acting like each dungeon has exactly one encounter.

>>378481135
Weapon durability

>>378488236

I play on PS4 pro anon

>>378488236
>jet flying you have to play with a controller or your missiles won't lockon
Fuck, is that why that happens?

>>378482340
QTEs aren't that bad. When they were first introduced in RE4, everyone thought they were cool, because they were being used correctly - to allow the player to control actions that they could never do in the regular gameplay engine.

QTEs are only really bad when developers use them as a lazy shortcut for something they easily could have done through the normal gameplay. Like the final boss in Shadow of Mordor

>>378488501
From what I hear, the performance is actually pretty bad on all systems. I think PCs might actually have it best, since consoles have really long loading screens.

>>378487417
>start game
>after you finish the tutorial you are not allowed to make any meaningful progression for up to 24 hours

>save enough money to expand upgrade your house/create a public works project
>wait a whole day again

>you need to buy something from a shop to make progress on something a couple weeks down the line
>but too bad because you bought enough of a certain thing causing said shop to start renovating, rendering it unassembled for an entire week

>forgot to play when an npc you need for progression shown up? Come back next week faggot

>want to create a new frame, have to farm the parts off a boss
>the parts are rewarded randomly, and there's 8 of them
>after finally getting everything you need, you need to built 2 different frames, each taking 3 days to finish
>after that's done you need to combine them and wait ANOTHER 3 days for it
>people other than you probably spent real money on this instead


Sorry to shit up the thread guys

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>>378481210
>guns not being hitscan
>Tfw to intelligent to aim ahead of someone.

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>>378482719
>the last one is in an area that was only accessible in one chapter

>>378481135
Press any button to start

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tacked-on multiplayer with:
>level progression
>unlockable equipment/abilities to pad it out
>achievements tied to it
>cash shop / hearthstone style boxes-o-shit

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>>378488642
>Hip-Fire isn't hitscan
>Scoped is

Jesus Blizzard

>>378488502
yes, that first fucking flying escort mission made me drop the game for a few months to see if they fixed the problem, and they never did

>>378487432
Jesus Christ dude, take a bufudyne pill or something, your autism is leaking.

driving gta bikes falling off of the bike.

escort parts npc walks slow or fast

game has multiple endings

beating the game have to restart the game- new vegas i'm looking at you

>>378488587

Actually on ps4 pro boost mode is pretty good

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>>378488670
>missable equipment/items/collectibles
Anyone who makes a game with things you can permanently miss without warning should be force-fed their own fingers.

>>378488810
>Take a bufudyne pill
>Your autism is leaking
Oh the irony

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>>378481135
>have to collect body parts off of enemies
>would logically expect them to drop them 100% of the time
>actually has a very low drop chance

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>>378482719
>>378486183

Far Cry 3
>149/150 Statues
>The cave where your saved friends stay has a statue inside, after the final mission the cave becomes innaccesable locking the collectable away for that playthrough
FUCKING WHY

>>378481135
>Want to play a game again
>You can't skip cutscenes

Also
>New romhack for your favourite NES/SNES game is released!!!
>Is another "Kaizo" type romhack
Thank god this trend is dying.

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>>378489098
>Need body part
>Enemy never drops it
>Realize it's because you're obliterating the fuck out of the part you need
>Kill it cleanly and receive part 100%

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>higher difficulty
>less exp, money and drops

WHO KEEPS THINKING THIS IS A GOOD IDEA

>>378482460
>stats as bars or letters

Holy fuck whenever I see that shit it pisses me off so fucking back like fuck off you retards just put it on a scale of 1 to 10 or something Jesus fucking Christ

This thread has granted me some amazing insight.

Didnt realize how retarded this board was before this

>>378489269
This is a great idea. I love it when difficulty affects player resources rather than enemy stats. It makes it much easier to progress to harder difficulties without getting surprised.

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>>378482719
>Pokemon Sun
>Need the last cell
>Can't find it
>Guides won't help since I can't remember which places did I already visit

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>>378482460
>game has a menu that gives you in-depth information of all a weapon's statistics down to the exact number, including modifiers from skills and any equipped mods

>>378487432
Calm down nigger

>>378489098
>"Collect 8 giant spider legs"
>Kill giant spider
>Drops 1 leg
>Take it
>Body still visibly has 8 legs
Or, the opposite, in Far Cry 3
>Kill turtle
>Loot 2 turtle shells

>>378483435

DID THAT BIKE IN FRONT OF THE PLAYER JUST SPAWN IN WHEN HE CRASHED?!?!?!?

>>378489475
>Pokemon Sapphire
>Master Ball was in Team Aqua hideout, which is inaccessible after leaving it
>I missed it

>>378488618
what kind of games even do this?

>>378489670
sounds like animal crossing to me

you know, the one with the whole "city lives on even when you're not playing" gimmick

>>378482719
Why do people bother with these? You rarely get anything good for collecting everything.

>>378487787
You try playing through Conquest Lunatic and still try to say it's not strategic.

>>378489251
this game doesnt exist

>>378489098
>>378489560
>Kill falmer
>get 1 ear
>sometimes no ears at all

>>378489670
Mobile/facebook shit.

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Uninterruptible attack animations.
Retarded friendly AI

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>>378483432
>Stats are tied to levels instead of gear
>Gear drops are tied to levels
>Game isn't skill and preparation-based

Fuck off, Todd. I'd still unironically buy Valenwood just to get a taste of the world/cities after the disappointment of BotW tho

>>378488919
>xenogears has a permanently missable item in the first fucking tutorial town
>only obtainable through pure RNG or save scumming

god damn it square

>"Increased critical hit chance"
>Doesn't say what exactly critical hits do
>Doesn't say how much it increases

>>378489750
oh, right
sounds cool desu, would play if I had a DS

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>>378489795
I know
I mean I'm sure someone somewhere for something has done something similar, but not to the capacity or even in the same context. It reeks of TECHNOLOGY, I'm surprised Breath of the Tamed Wild didn't do it.

>>378489882
unrelated, but a hacked 3ds is basically the best value for money right now in terms of consoles

>>378481135
>fifty different stats
>they all sound like sysonyms of each other
>no tooltips or anything that lets you know what does what
>If it does, the only way to figure out what a point is worth is to try shit out on enemies
>Luck (Affects a variery of things ;) )
Fire emblem is the only SRPG I can play because of this shit

>>378489795
>>378489959
Doesn't Monster Hunter do this? Or is it the opposite, where you have to, say, attack the horn to get it as a drop?

>>378489959
The Surge tries something like this. Enemies drop different loot based on what bodypart you attack.

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>>378486985
>get in range to actually get a shotgun kill
>some nigger faggot uses martyrdom and his grenade rolls downhill and kills you

>>378490069
it's the opposite in MonHun, where you have to break the part to get the part, but even then it's up to RNG to see if you get the actual thing you're looking for, like a 60%/40% split on horns or a scale when you break the horns

>>378489769
Autism and "Muh 100% purfection"

>>378490039
ill look iinto it m8

>>378490046
You should play Disgaea. IMO it has a complex but consistent system.

>>378489867
What item? The game is too fucking easy to care about equipment until some Gear boss battles way later in the game. Also, Fei and Jitan doesn't even equip weapons.

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>FUCKING
>AI
>RUBBERBANDING

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>>378489872
>chance for a critical hit is 25%
>item says it increase critical hit chance by 50%
>your chance for a critical isnt 75%, but 37.5%

>>378481135
no a mechanic, but I hate when a game doesn't explicitly explain the stats you have anywhere in the game and you just happened to lose the manual that came with it so you're left wondering what that one specific stat does and why your guy keeps getting points in it

>>378481135
Loading Screens

When you have to follow an NPC or escort them but their movement speed is faster than your walking speed but slower than your running speed.

>>378487124
name five games with tripping

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>>378481135
>game throws you into an unwinnable boss fight
>doing well enough that you know you can win given enough time
>boss launches scripted insta-kill attack

>>378490370
that's mathematically sound, you're just a brainlet

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>player has low health and high damage
>enemy has high health and low damage

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>Games with purposely clunky controls just to make the game harder.
>JRPGS with it's own custom stat names and no explanation on how any of the affect a character.
>Forced-loss boss fights/boss fights where afterwords shows a cut scene of the MC or Party getting it's ass beat instead.

>>378490519
Im sure he knows its mathematically sound, it seems like an issue of wording to me

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>>378481135
>You level up
>The enemy too
FUCK DIS

>>378490519
maybe if it said it increased your current critical hit chance

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Higher level party member refuse to do lower level quests

>>378490441
Smash Brawl. But Brawlfags became Sm4shfags so I don't see why anyone would care about Brawl anymore.

>>378481135

>Points of no return

Especially when it gives you no warning, and items needed for 100% are locked behind it.

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Automatic difficulty tuning fills be with disgust.

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>backtracking for essential items
>re-using levels later in the game just with harder enemies

Good god I hated Silent Hill 4 because of that. They literately forced you to play 3 levels twice because they were too lazy to design a new one

>>378487467
1 didn't. Electro sense or whatever it's called that marks off a single piece on your map was only introduced in 2 because of the complaints in 1. 1 has the ability to scan a small circle around you for the shards but it's not like 2 where it actually marks it on your map and minimap permanently until you grab it.

>>378490519
The issue is that there's no indication whether it's addictive or multiplicative.

>Game has RNG for loot drops.
>Making a good weapon requires drops from monsters.
>All ut one piece is a 50% drop rate.
>Last piece is .01%.
>In a single player game.
>By the time you grind out the item, you're already over leveled and don't need it.

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>savepoint doesn't heal

>game has weapon durability
>enemy weapons never break when they use them
>their weapons suddenly become cardboard when picked up

>>378482620
>They move slower than your run
>They move faster than your walk
There was supposedly some development reason for this some creators claimed to be a thing but I'm pretty sure they're just fucking liars.

Red Dead Redemption is the only game I've played where escort missions were more comfortable because you could just hold a button to stay at the same pace as the NPC when riding with them.

>>378481135
random stat gains upon leveling up.

>RPG with crits
>There's an attack that always criticals for double damage
>base damage is almost half as much as a regular attack so it just does average damage with no real chance to crit for massive damage like other attacks

WHATS THE POINT

I hate the everloving shit out of any mechanic that reverses movement controls. Usually it's a "confusion" debuff or something. Especially if you're supposed to be dodging or something holy fucking shit.

Hell, even in turn based games I hate the confusion debuff because it's almost always the character you stat buffed out the ass that turns around and decimates your entire team or themselves in one hit. It's annoying as fucking shit yet it never fails to be in almost every RPG in existence.

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>>378481135

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>Leveling up fully heals character.
>Enemies can level up if a party member is KO'd.

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>mfw I have seen many stupid mechanics but never rage at any of them

>more damage
>increased damage
>they are not the same
I don't mind it too much really but i felt dumb when i found out it be like that in PoE

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>Ammunition is pooled

>>378490924
The point would be to take advantage of the guaranteed higher base damage through buffs that add percentage damage.

>>378490976
Literally just use anything the game gives you to prevent your characters from getting confused. I mean in Persona Q for example you can utilize a skill called "Holy Blessing" which prevents status inflictions occurring on your party or use magic bind (basically the silence status infliction) to prevent enemies from using status inflictions.

>>378490829
what game?

>>378483289
Don't forget that each weapon has its own auto aim stat as well which is not represented at all.

>>378483680
Comebacks are fine if the players needs to have the skills to pull it off

Comeback mechanics in which a shitter who deserved to lose because of his lack of skill can turn the tide and fuck over the better player just because the game took pity on them is not fun.

>>378482284
This, with runner up being >>378481224.

>>378490753
Are you a Valve playtester? A game will never let you have more than 50% critical rate using a single item, maybe if you brake the game but that requires extra steps. Even if you know jack shit about basic probability theory and how coders use it, use your basic gaming logic.

>>378491065
>enemies can level up
i swear ive never encountered this mechanic before

>>378491065
This always pissed me off in Pokemon games. Extremely often your pokemon will level up mid battle and gain stats and even a couple HP immediately. Opponent's pokemon never ever level up, even if they kill 4 of yours in a row. They should.

>>378481135

Card games or any form of gambling. I don't care if it's optional but I can't stand if the game makes it mandatory even once. I was dreading the P5 casino level at first til I found out you just rig the machines to get what you need and breathed a sigh of relief.

>>378490753
Well, in that case, you can actually tell. Increasing by 50% means +50% of the base rate. Increasing by 50 percentage points means +50. It is easy to get confused, though, and the game might not always make it as clear.

>>378481135

rage gimmicks in fighting games.

>itt: casuals

>>378490924
Explore your options
>Party buffs
>Enemy debuffs
>Weapons
>Exploitable enemy weaknesses

>>378491592
I don't know, Fire Emblem Fates had this weapon called the "Great Club" that added +55% critical hit rate at the cost of having a terrible base hit rate of 45%.

>>378489586
No, but the rider of the bike that crashed into him instantaneously recovers from the crash, his bike and himself teleporting back upright and continuing on at his original speed before he hit the player, all with in the span of the split second the player had his camera off him

>>378490880
>Enemy has infinite ammo
>Barely drops any

>>378491592
There are games that have base crit rates so low that addictive increases are viable. You won't crazy numbers like +25% on a single piece of gear though.

>>378490267
The Mermaid Tear. Which you need for a sidequest that only starts towards the end of the first disc and finally completes in disc 2

>>378491592
>A game will never let you have more then 50% critical rate.

Holy shit you're some kind of dumb.

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>enemy has weapon
>dies
>can't pick up enemy's weapon even if it's visibly better than what you currently have
also >randomly generated weapon/armor/etc stats

>>378490924
>Dark Souls 2
>Some armor increases equipment load limit
>But not enough to make up for the weight of the armor
WHAT'S THE POINT? Instead of "Increases equipment load", why not "Is very light"?

>>378481135
V.A.T.S.

>>378490987
Copycat's fine, and Juiced isn't too bad.

>>378492310
anon thats not what he said

>>378491986
That's a fucking stupid scenario and I think it's not the same as the stupid and math inept frogposter was complaining about.

Level up wheels
Guided platform paths in games like uncharted and the order.

>>378490886
Big dev reason, and a sensible one at that.

If the escort moves slower than your slowest speed, you'll always need to stop.
If the escort moves as fast or faster than your fastest speed, you'll always fall behind.

By making the escort move at that speed, you'll be comfortable with them being ahead (since you can run to catch up) and comfortable with them being behind (since you can walk and fall in line). Plus, you'll feel superior to the NPC since you can outrun them whenever you choose.

>>378490519
Not really.
Let's say you have 0% critical chance, then you get a 20% critical chance item, so your critical chance is now 20%, then you have another item increasing your critical chance by 30%, some items just sum chances and another one increase your actual %, but in most game they don't explain that

>>378491152
I kind of like this.

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>>378491607

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Dying through no fault of your own

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>>378481135
Equipment degradation
even on unique shit
it can break and be lost forever

>>378492497
How is it stupid? You just needed the right things to compensate the low af hit rate like utilizing weapon triangle advantage, supports, and having a unit with high skill like Beruka use it.

>>378492278
>Xenogears sidequests
Most of the game is just awesome filler and I know sidequests have that sort of requirements., so I didn't care about them.

>>378481712
Now you're just naming things.

They're some games who succeed at it and some who are absolute trash but fixed camera means there is a story to be told.

>>378492497
but the math was correct

>Cool upgrades are locked behind shitty upgrades

>>378492251
That actually sounds better. Better yet when they are consumables and not equipment.

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>fight clone of the player character's class
>clone moves twice as fast as player character
>clone has access to every upgraded skill the player gets
>clone can abuse those upgraded skills without abiding by the vitality system

Rubberbanding/cheating AI, Mario Kart is the absolute worst game for it

>CPUs pull speed out of their ass when behind 1st to attain speeds that are not possible to attain with their given kart customizations/racer combo (really noticeable if you're racing online with some of the race being CPUs, people in the back will see the CPUS behind them start passing them even when you're in a max speed kart/racer build)

>CPUs cheat the item system hard and can basically pull whatever item they need out of their ass whenever they want (they don't even need to hit item boxes, I've seen CPU racers get gifted items on stretches where no item boxes appear)

>Instantly recover from stalls/item hits

>will work together to dick the player over instead of advancing their own position (like swerving in front to deny you item boxes, or trying to crowd you off the edge of the track)

>>378481135
>be me in middle school
>playing Ocarina of Time with guide (yes I was a casual)
>guide was kind of worn down, some pages missing
>progress to the water temple
>the guide is missing two front and back pages about the mechanics
>have to figure out all of the mechanics on a hot summer day after school
>get through the mechanics and then enter the dark link area
>die at least 10 times in a row because I pretty much only had the heart pieces from the main story progression
I'm pretty sure this is the first time I raged at a video game