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#SaveLocke - Why Halo NEEDS Spartan Locke hi

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https://youtu.be/iULAgOFLXm4?t=2m2s

I'll sum up the video for you:

>Halo needs to kill off Master Chief and be exactly like Star Wars and Star Trek and expand the universe beyond Master Chief
>The only reason why people hate Locke is because a) he doesn't have enough games to properly display his character and needs more games and an origin story b) he's black
>Locke needs his own spin-off game and should eventually replace Master Chief
>We need more PoC protagonists instead of bald and boring white space marines
>People who hate Locke because he's boring and doesn't have a character are hypocrites because Master Chief was boring and had no character in Halo 1-3
>People who hate Locke are the same type of bigots who hate that women will be playable characters in COD WWII
>The Halo franchise can't survive if they keep using Master Chief as the main character
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Halo's Lightning
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>>378468274
who cares
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>Martin Luther Locke
What did he mean by this?
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>>378468274
Stop shilling your shitty video no one cares about that nigger, it belongs to the chief.
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>>378468274
>343 halo

No, what we need to do is kill 343 and the halo franchise.
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Did they ever show Master Chief's face before?
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>>378468274
i want new game not old beaten horse.

gun play and movement is just grate but story suck too much even for me.
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>>378468605
It's not my video. But I would appreciate an upboat :^)
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Don't shill your shit here.

Kill yourself fucking nigger.
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>>378468274
Master Chief is Halo bitch. The one man army. The legend. The savior of humanity. The guy who jumped off of a space station to give the Covenant back there own bomb then landed on a human ship.

Only the Arbitor could possibly replace the cheif since he too is a legend of his own people.
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>>378468274
Needs cute femspartan though
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>>378468274
Maybe Locke would be okay if Halo 5's story even slightly resembled how it was shown in the marketing.

The way things are, he basically has zero purpose to the plot outside of being the dude to get Blue Team freed from their ball prison at the end of the game
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>>378468823
It's not my video. I just wanted to show /v/ something retarded and to laugh at.
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>>378469073
That's a big snail
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>>378469020
If Linda's armor was designed by someone competent like the person responsible for Reach's art style and was made more practical, I would argue that she would be the qt-est spartan.
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>>378468274
>>People who hate Locke are the same type of bigots who hate that women will be playable characters in COD WWII
I hate it because thats historically innaccurate for what is every faction that i assume will be playable in MP except russians, because there was an actual group of armed women fighting, if any other faction has playable women besides the russians it's innaccurate and dishonest
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>>378469189
4U
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Guys! If you hate Locke, it's because you're a racist!
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>>378468274
While I agree with you, OP, I also think you're a nigger.

>Jerome

Jerome would be the PERFECT dude to replace the Chief. He's witty, charismatic, and a good person, but at the same time he gets the job done and is pretty stoic, just not to the degree of the Chief (which is good)

>Locke

Locke got shoehorned in due to shitty writing and planning. Yeah, he could of been a good replacement for the Chief, but the way his team was structured (how they ALL have some sort of backstory and depth while Locke is just "hurr durr im super STRUNK and intelligent black ONI guy ayyyyy lamayooo") really sucked the hype out from him. Plus, again, they did a HORRIBLE job of advertising for him and made him out to be this really complicated, really enigmatic dude when it was FAR from the truth.

>tl;dr: OP's opinion is shit, but not entirely shit. Jerome should replace Chief, Locke is still a bitch
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(you) what is this heresy?
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As much as I liked Locke, you're being a faggot.
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>>378468274
>can't give chief a good closure game
>hurr durr it's chief fault
GEE, IF FUCKING MICROSHAFT COULD STOP MILKING THE SHIT OUT OF CHIEF MAYBE THEY COULD KILL HIM.
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>>378469735
>liking Locke
Literally why?
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But what if John 117 was also black
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>>378469916
Then his name would be Jonathan
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>>378469860
He was a cool rival to Chief and more of him wouldn't be totally bad in my opinion
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>I got transferred to the Halo team by my request months ago
>I recommended we kill him off like Rookie
>Team lead who helped make Locke got offended
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>>378468274
>>The Halo franchise can't survive if they keep using Master Chief as the main character


Good, then kill it.
The main big story has been resolved anyways, they're just adding new shit to the world now. The story of Halo has been told, can move on to new IPs now.
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People care so little about Halo lately that removing chief and replacing him with an irrelevant character might literally kill the series.
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nah what they should do is just stop making halo games altogether
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>>378469976

Halo takes place in the future. If black naming schemes keep going on the current route, it's more likely his name would be Jabaliading'esh (first part is silent)
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>>378470280
Nawww man, they need to put Jerome in the big picture. It works. He's like Chief in his youth but even better cause he's a fresh face and he's more charismatic.
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Where the FUCK is my Halo themed ripoff of Star Wars Battlefront for OG Xbox.
>chose between UNSC, Covenant, Flood, and Prometheans
>start as entry level soldiers, can upgrade over match (Marines to ODST, ODST to Spartans)
>can call in weapons, vehicles, "killstreak" style ordinance like Glassing Canon or Flood Spore Outbreak, as well as Legends like Chief, Arbiter
>play through classic battles even those just hinted at in books, like First Contact at Harvest, the Forerunner Flood War, Battle for the Silent Cartographer, and more

The grevious sin Halo performs is not embracing its excellent universe. You can have incredible games that won't hurt your fans without starring Chief
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Hey guys, OP here!

Be sure to leave a like and a comment! :^)
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>>378470780
WEINER BALLS
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What the Halo franchise really needs is new fucking writers.
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>>378470507
>Bashing nu-cannon shit in in a (almost) pre-war relic with a QT AI who may or may not have abandonment issues

Sounds good
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>>378468274
I'm black and I want to kill this mother fucker, I hate Locke and I want to play the Chief, I would be happy if Locke's sorry ass gets gutted and slaughter by the Covenant, Banished, Flood, or Prometheans in the next game, him and his sorry excuse of a team. I want the Master Chief and Blue Team not OC Donut Steel and his Power Rangers.
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>>378470938
and non shit designs
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>>378468605
>>378468907
These

>>378469557
But I'm black and I hate him.
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>>378470994
Think about it bruh (btw she looks like a femininst wtf)

>he's gotten the most screentime out of all the other SPARTANs in Halo Wars
>He does some cool guy shit when he does get screentime
>It's already established that he can whoop serious ass
>even though his armor is obsolete, he's still capable of getting shit done
>they can upgrade his armor

It's too easy man. Honestly, I really feel like they are already considering the idea of making him something big considering whats been going on with him game wise.

Plus he really is a nig, I fuck with the guy. He's 1337
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>>378470840
Don't mind her, she's fucking retarded
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>>378471171
>clear and present design philosophy evident through out all the original trilogy
>343 manages to miss all of it
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>>378468274
dude who cares just play the mp
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>>378471418
Sure you are, whitey!
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I want to punch the black guy in the face. I'm black and I just want to play the Chief okay, Chief is Halo. I fucking had this issue with Halo 2 back then I didn't want to play an alien and I sure as hell don't want to play a Master Chief wannabe, just let me play the Chief in a mainline Halo game, damn.
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>>378471839
Bungie's designs were simple yet memorable
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>>378472290
No I'm really am black
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>>378472173
The multiplayer in Halo 5 is not really that good, though. The only things that really save it are Forge and the Custom Games browser.
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>>378470507

>Jerome going full Spartan when infiltrating the Enduring Conviction
>Isabel being amazed at seeing a Spartan's handiwork
>that scream turning into laughter as Jerome dives back down to the Ark

Isabel and Jerome are a good enough team that they could easily replace or supplement Chief and Cortana.
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people liked chief because he had cool armor even though he had no character

locke's armor blows
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>>378472898
>even though he had no character

Did you even play through Halo 2?
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>>378472898
having no character is better than having a shitty character 2bh
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>>378468274
MCC pc release when
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Hallo I am halo fabnoy
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I stoped playing halo after halo 4 beacuse 3423i can't makea fucking good game toa save theirlives

I don't even care about halo anymore its too late
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>>378472985
only mp because I hated CEs campaign
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>>378472898
People like Chief for the same reasons they liked Samus
>he was a badass
>he had badass armor
>he fucked up aliens
>he saves galaxy
>he saves Earth
>he saves Humanity
>he had all these badass weapons and vehicles
>he took you on an adventure
>he is you

No matter who 343 put over Chief they will always get backlash because to many Chief is Halo and that's the end of it.
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The person responsible for OP's video is also behind this equally retarded opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s2e_s2ijJk
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FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!
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I don't know shit about the new Halos but I'm not seeing the difference between a black guy wearing a full suit covering his whole body and a white one. They all look the same in those suits.
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>>378473803
This mother fucker a Sony faggot isn't he? You know what, I'm really getting tired of hearing this of color shit. White people are white, Black people are black, I'm black and everything but this mother fucker and the rest of my ignorant race are seems more racist against their own race. People that say "of color" or "realistic design" need to be shot. I'm disgusted that this guy is the same fucking race as me, I'm glad I was raised in a White neighborhood, my race is so fucking ignorant and entitled. >:(
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>>378468274
Honestly Locke is shit. He's got a rather subpar mini-series as his backstory, and he's a character that doesn't really do anything all that interesting or act all that interesting. Buck would be a better team leader rather than a side wheel, and he's only part of the team because they killed off the Rookie for shock value and a poor excuse to get Buck into the Spartan IV program.

People hate Locke partly because he's just not a good replacement for the Chief because he's not really all that interesting. People also partly hate Locke because Halo 5 was advertised as sort of a split campaign kind of deal like Halo 2, with Chief and Locke playing counter-roles to eachother, but all the advertising was fake, Blue Team gets three missions, and we're stuck with boring ass Locke for the rest of the campaign as it tries its best to make him seem like the same level of badass in a single game like Chief has spent the rest of the series already being.

It's a fucking fanfiction. Especially what with killing off Cortana in 4, but now she's back but evil or some Promethean duplicate or some shit that is madly obsessed with Chief because 343's writers wanted to bump up Cortana and Chief to a love relationship. Meanwhile seven other plot points are barely explained if at all because you should go buy all the books and comics to understand everything while we still get cliffhangers of nonsensical bullshit.
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>>378473128
NEVER
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>>378474482
No, he's a huge Xbox fanboy.
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>>378472672
Thank you. One of the few dudes on here with enough sense.

343 made their own, better version of Chief. I still love Chief, the dude was my childhood, hell I bought the encyclopedia and everything, but his time is over and they know this. They're grooming the heir to his throne.

And his name is Jerome. And he's gonna get a lot of pussy
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>>378474465
Until they open their mouth and its all AYO GURL SO YOUS BE SAYIN WE WUZ SPARTANZ AND SHEIT

Characters like Johnson can't exist in 343 halo
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>>378474606
He sounds like a typical Sony gger and he keeps saying "of color", we're black okay we're fucking black stop saying this shit. Seriously every time my race says this I stop taking them seriously because this is going to turn into some Black Lives Matter shit again.

>wanting realistic character designs
I fucking hate this guy.
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>>378474876
well he's back in halo wars 2
without david scully
and piloting one of those retarded orion mecha battlesuit things
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>>378475036
that sounds utterly retarded classic 343i
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>>378474689
No their not after Halo 5's backlash 343 stated they were doubling down on Chief for the entire mainline series. They also said that Chief isn't going anywhere anytime soon. :)
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>>378473803
>Sony sold 60 million units
>But Persona only sold 2 million, so it's a failure!!!

What a fucking retard.
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>>378475219
*they're
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>>378471171
this
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>>378475652
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Choose
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>>378471171
I will never not hate what they did to the Elites.
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Shill thread?
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>>378476025
Halo 2 and 3
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>>378476025
Halo 3 hands down.
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>>378476025
Halo 3 always
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>>378476008
>>378475652
>>378471171
why does 343 have such a hardon for making everything "bulky"
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>>378476025
H2:A and reach
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>>378476034
They made them into brutes and they removed their sleek black undersuit
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>>378476025
For Mk. VI, middle. But I prefer the Mk. IV at the bottom right.
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>>378476025
mark iv
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>>378476186
They want the Ironman audience.
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>>378476025
>mk vi is largely unchanged between games
>mk v gets redesigned with varying success every time
For what purpose
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>>378476186
Bungie's artists had a thing for rugged effectiveness. The vehicles and weapons of humanity were kinda boxy but had their rounded bits, and yet it all looked at least relatively plausible within sci-fi technology. Ironically some of this still remains in Destiny despite the massively different attempt at style, leaving the more unique shapes to alien and magical stuff.

343 has this idea that is like a mix of anime and the syfy channel. Everything is suddenly super angular with stylized edges and extra detail galore. Greeble fucking everywhere. They think overly detailed bits and pieces everywhere contrasting a sharp and excessively boxy design is the logical conclusion, but almost everything has it now instead of being isolated to one race's weapon types. It's ridiculous.
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>>378468546
Where did this meme originate from?
Wasn't it from a leak that never ended up panning out?
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>>378469312
I like Linda's armor a lot. It was just unfortunate enough to be stuck with the shitty art style. That armor and helmet with Reach's art style would look great.
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>>378468383
More like Halo's Poochy.
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>>378468383
That's more of an insult to Lightning than it is to Locke.
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>>378468274
He's a shit character, literally in this case.
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Halo 6 is going to be better than Halo 4 and 5 and I can't wait with Master Chief being the main character of every FPS mainline Halo games in the future and isn't going away anytime soon this series has hope. With the return of split screen for every FPS Halo game starting with Halo 6, does anyone think 343 will finally find their audience and get some old Halo fans to enjoy Halo 6 and beyond?
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HELLO I AM MASTER CHIEF LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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>>378478376
No.
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>>378478376
they should remove sprint and aiming down sights
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343i needs to watch this movie before they make any new Halo games. I recently watched it for the first time in years. Man old Bungie must have loved this movie. So much of the original trilogy had to be inspired by it. Johnson is so obviously Apone for example. This movie is how you do military/sci-fi and feels more like Halo than anything in Halo 4 or 5.
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>>378478481
I wish but chances are they will double down making Halo 6 a Destiny, Battlefield, Titanfall hybrid since that what Halo 5 was going for anyway.
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>>378478648
halo doesn't need any of those features
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>We didn't get the ODST hunting chief
>We got random boring literal who

I would've preferred an ass pull like a cloned noble six who had his memories altered to believe chief was responsible for the deaths of noble team.
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>>378478760
>I would've preferred an ass pull like a cloned noble six who had his memories altered to believe chief was responsible for the deaths of noble team.

Call me crazy but I think I would have actually loved that.
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>people don't like Locke is because he's black

What a fucking retard.
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>>378478627
Better yet, they should just stop making Halo games period.
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>Caring about Halo in 2017
Are you faggots for fucking real?
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>>378478735
I know but Phil loves Destiny, Microsoft want Halo to have mobility, and they want some Battlefield bullshit in Halo with microtransactions so there's no stopping 343 or Microsoft on that.
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>>378478998
it's more like we used to care for halo but 343 raped and defiled it so much that it's agonizing to see its remains while its penetrated ass spews out sadness and desperation
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>>378475652
And what about the fact that they brought up the spanker again faggot?
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>>378479219
Literally only in response to overwhelming fan outcry.
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>>378476025
3 and Reach
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>>378479301
This
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>>378479219
Well I guess we should be thankful they so graciously decided to return an iconic design to their game
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>>378479301
This is what I like about Halo and Metroid fans, we give Microsoft and Nintendo backlash to fix our franchise and then things start to get better slowly (I believe Nintendo is working on a 2D Metroid game, while Microsoft is sticking with Chief and bringing back split screen).
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>>378479696
2D would be nice preferably one like super metroid with no hand holding like fusion
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>>378470624
iagree
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>>378470624
>You can have incredible games that won't hurt your fans without starring Chief

Evidently they're still testing the waters with the Spartan games and Halo Wars 2.
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Liking Locke should be a crime.
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>>378480965
lmao what the fuck
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>>378480965
This
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>>378480965
Why does 2B have a Halo gun?
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>>378471839
>>378471171
What's worse is bungie nailed the design for armor in destiny compared to halo 5's plastic armor
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>>378481149
Why not?
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>>378468274
How about instead of a boring dumb cracker or a boring dumb nigger to self-insert as, they just pull a Reach and let us make our own S-IV?

They just need a half-decent character creator, with preset features instead of fucking sliders.
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Did anyone watch the video?
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Someone post the fight webm.
Then we can have a good laugh at how pathetically weightless the strikes are.
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>>378481559
How about you make a spin off for that shit.
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>>378468274
MC is too old and ugly to be a protagonist in the year 2017, everyone knows this
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>>378478627
Also Foe Hammer is basically Colette Ferro
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It hurts every time I watch this ;__;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88
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>>378476034
Why does /v/ like the Elites so much?
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>>378482031
Big ass dinosaurs is cool
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>>378482031
Because they're cool.

Some fags here like fapping to the idea of female Elites
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>>378482435
But don't the female elites canonically look identical to the males?
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>>378481873
Mother fucker
1. Chief doesn't look like that
2. Spatan II augmentation most likely slowed his aging
3. Cryo sleep slow/halted his aging
4. His genesong awakening most likely slowed his aging
5. Chief age in Earth years is close to 50 but his body is in its early to mid 30s.
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>>378481818
Everything 343i does with Chief is essentially a spin-off.
They could've retired him with 4 but that would involve making a very good, well written game that rivaled the popularity of 3.
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>>378482503
I don't know, man.
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Saying they should kill off master chief and expand the universe is the same as saying they should kill off Doomguy and expand the Doom universe. Are you a fucking retard? People don't hate Locke because he "doesn't have enough games" they hate him because he's a shit character in a terrible game, but most of all because he isn't fucking Master Chief. Halo isn't a series with 2 DEEP 4 U lore, it's an action game inspired by 90s shooters. You faggots are the reason nobody cares about Halo anymore
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>>378482593
20 years of nonstop combat ages a person
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>>378482593
that's like all wrong.

the augmentation advanced his ageing.
cryo doesn't really work for Spartans.
genesong LAMO
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>>378482708
They shouldn't kill master chief they should just stop making halo
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>>378482996
Isn't implied that he isn't even human?
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>>378482996
>Cryo doesn't work for spartans
source:your ass
Spartans spent shitloads of time in it.
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>>378483103
Yeah, which is why they turned Halo into a shoujo romance so that Cortana can help him reconnect with his human side
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Needs more Sangheili.
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Some of these things are true but these are all non issues
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>>378482708
Halo has oodles of lore. Always had. It used to be quite good, too.
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>>378483234
Sangheili are not for lewd, Sangheili are for slaughter and Sangheilios is for glassing, as justice for all those we lost
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>>378482996
You're so full of shit that it's not even funny.

>>378482761
Not like that, even Blue Team don't look that old compared to your fan pic.

>>378482596
That wouldn't have worked, many people play Halo just to play the Chief, get rid of him and you get rid of a considerable amount of the fanbase right there.
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>>378483439
>Sangheili are not for lewd
Official Halo Reach art.
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>>378483381
Halo has lots of lore, yes, but it's not 2 DEEP 4 U stuff that thinks it's deeper than it is. It's pretty straight forward for the most part, and that isn't a bad thing.
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>>378482996
>cryo doesn't really work for spartans
CE, 3, and Reach would like to have a word with you
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>>378483209
That's why they turned him into a bitch in halo5, I hate 343i so damn much.

Halo needs the nuDoom treatment
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>>378483514
>Bungie didn't make the Reach Elites look like this
I'm still mad. >:(
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>>378483553
Halo and Metroid both need the nuDoom treatment.
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>>378483958
Metroid just needs to be kept with studios not connected to the original team. Stay within the universe but don't stay cannon
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>>378483958
The classic metroid formula sill works just fine. Blame nintendo for thinking otherwise.
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>>378483553
>>378483958
>still thinking that nuDoom was good
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>>378478627
This is the problem of games being a playable shadow copy of movies... when good movies stops being made... so does good games.
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>>378468274
ODST had a faceless protagonist.
Master Chief is a faceless protagonist.
The only unmasked character who could make a good Halo player character is Thel'Vadam.

Locke sucks cock, and your "muh race" bait is a shit. Nonhuman and faceless characters all people of all races to empathize with them.
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>>378484140
As long as we don't get Other M 2
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>>378475036
>>378475179
Scully's part of the voice actor strike. Don't get me wrong; Halo Wars 2 isn't good. The voice issue isn't 343's fault (specifically), though.
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>>378478447
SOI SOI SOI
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>>378484231
Shut up nuMale
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>>378484112
>>378484140
I would love a 2D Metroid where Samus is back in her Power Suit on a Chozo Planet doing what she does best killing Space Pirates and Metroids along with exploring. I would love a FPS Halo game where Chief is on a Forerunner Halo ring in his old Mjolnir Mark VI doing what he does best killing Covenant and Flood while exploring. I want my old Metroid and Halo back. :'(
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>People hate him because he's black
Nice try
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>>378484434
If Downes is also a part of it, Master Chief could have a new voice actor in Halo 6, hmm.
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>Everything after Halo 3 needs to be scrapped from the canon
>The lore needs to be relegated to a secondary source of inspiration
>The franchise needs to return to the Halo rings for some new mystery
>Maybe some Darwinian struggle between alien species, throw in some new ones
>The military theme needs to come back in full force
>The Covenant need to stay gone
>Spartans needs to be special again
>Chief's slumber has to mean something
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>>378481559
This isn't Ass Defect or Saint's Blow 6.
Unless 343 makes a third person Halo game (which I wouldn't be against), that idea is retarded.
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>>378484587
>No halo game about exploring a forerunner facility and finding better and better forerunner toys to proceed
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>>378476025
I don't want to sound like a nostalgiafag, but I hasve to go with 3 and Reach.
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>>378482503
>>378482629
Pretty much what you'd expect.
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>>378484758
This is as true as it gets but 343 refuses to, and will never accept it.
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>>378484758
They should just reboot the franchise and start over.
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>>378482593
JOHN CENA!
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>>378484686
I haven't played 4 or 5. I've been told that I should think the series stopped after 3 and Reach. I don't want to hear Chief if he isn't Chief.
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>>378484960
I could put my dick in that.
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Have they brought back playable elites in MP yet?
I hated that they were only playable in Reach in one game mode.
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Why does humanity have such a powerful military (Infinity, new Spartans, etc.) in the games after Halo 3? I was under the impression that the UNSC was devastated and humanity was close to extinction in Halo 3. What happened?
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>>378484960
The art style isn't canon.

They're noticeably slimmer than males as described in Glasslands.
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>>378485316
H2:A was the last one
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>>378485247
Do Behelits have someone's soul trapped in them? Is that why they cry?
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>>378484960
>>378485383
The one on the right if you didn't guess.
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>>378485363
343 and SJW is what happened anon
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>implying it wasn't the shitty writing from Brian Reed that made people hate Locke
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>>378485363
They basically took the Covenant's and scavenged Forerunner technology to supersize their military. In the five years between Halo 3 and 4, this resulted in apparently every single weapon being modified in their lineup, all their massive ships being completely different
(even the Forward Unto Dawn looks completely different due to artstyle differences), Cortana getting SPARTAN-IV armor schematics out of her ass for a "nanomachine upgrade" to Chief's armor, and the UNSC Infinity which is practically a mary sue ship as a culmination of human and forerunner tech that can fucking ram through and obliterate a Covenant corvette in its path.

They try to explain the Infinity away by having new story points claiming it was in development during the war, but it's still retarded.
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>>378485706
I dunno senpai, they're both pretty slimm
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>>378468274
JOHN ISN'T A BALD AND BORING SPACE MARINE HE HAS SANDY HAIR AND A GAP IN HIS TEETH
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well i really think that in halo 6 there has to be a lot of casualties from the human/shangellios part, also it needs that buck goes back to his SCDO (human) roots so it can be again identified by the public... and somehow fireteam Osiris needs to be disambled
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>>378485519
They cry because they have witnessed the shit that you masturbate to.
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>>378485859
The one on the left is a prophet not fucked over by inbreeding.
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>>378485279
They could be 8 foot tall horned toad lizards and some /v/tards would want to put their dicks in them.
That being said, I'd probably put my dick in her, too.
>>378485383
They are slimmer in Legends. I haven't read Glasslands.
>>378485519
http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/Behelit
I've only seen the original anime and read this. Looks like the answer is no; they're just spooky trinkets that allow travel between reality/the "Physical World" and the Astral World.
>>378485706
Yeah, looks fairly similar in basic shape, though I guess the Legends two-lipped face doesn't make sense.
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>>378485859
They don't have hair (which was in legends) .
The Pseudo Japanese meme needs to stop with the Sangheili.
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>>378485732
>implying it wasnt the unexpected "play as locke for 90% of the game"
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>>378476025
Halo 3's variation of the helmet is what I think of when I think "Halo." Reach's design is also good though.
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>>378485984
>and somehow fireteam Osiris needs to be disambled
I know a way to do this, kill everyone in Osiris except Buck, problem solved.
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>>378476008
>lmao just make it an m1 abrams
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>>378484758
>The military theme needs to come back in full force

Didn't the marines look military enough for you in halo5? ;^)
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>>378486069
Ah, I forgot about the hair.
Same basic concept, just waifu-fied in Legends because no one wants to see female elites with heads that look like logs of shit with four spiky lips. (Except me, because I like it when games have aliens that aren't boring humans with the features of one random animal applied to them).
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>>378486323
>What's a BDU?
>I dunno man sounds like a swimsuit, let's put water wings on them
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>>378485984
>Locke died first
>Vale was impaled on elite cock
>Everyone just forgot the other one existed
>Buck went off and did Buck things, probably with Dare
Done.
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>>378486427
>Vale was impaled on elite cock
In hindsight with how retarded 343's been, i'm surprised they didn't embrace full-on fanfiction.net and have a human-sangheli relationship yet.
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>>378486564
Don't give them any ideas.
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>>378486718
But...
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>>378486718
If they want ideas, they have well over a decade's worth of dumb shit to look at besides one random post on /v/
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>Kill off the most iconic microsoft character so black people can self insert into the franchise.
>Not just making a new series in the same universe with new characters.

I know it's hard for them to understand because they think they're special, but it's easier for everyone this way.
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>forcing people to like your OC character

The whole reason Master Chief is liked is because he wasn't created to be liked. He was just a cipher for the player. But the game was so good that the character grew on the audience.

Locke is the complete opposite of that.
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>>378470076
Lmao if this is true
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>>378487472
I know, I'm black but my race is starting to sound like gays, feminists, and transsexuals. Meaning they are annoying the fuck out of me with their bitching. They're like one of those animal rights fuck bags that hang out at the circus. Me and my family always want to beat the shit out of them when we see them because they give because they are annoying. These type of Black people give the rest of us a bad name, fuck them.
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How did sergeant johnson survive in CE?
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>>378487808
This
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>>378487945
>I know, I'm black but my race is starting to sound like gays, feminists, and transsexuals.

Probably because it kind of is, my dude. Not saying all black people are like that, but there's a good population that have the same mindset as your average college girl or beta bitch.
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>>378488054
In game? Because.
In lore? Rip and teared his way through the flood, hopped on a pelican and flew the fuck off the ring. Linked up with chief, took a joy ride in a covenant ship, blew more shit up, went back to earth.
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>>378468274
>The only reason why people hate Locke is because a) he doesn't have enough games to properly display his character and needs more games and an origin story b) he's black
And the marketing lied to everyone about how big the rivalry was
And the entire blue team is the most uninteresting addition in the series.
And the game made no attempt to make me care about Locke.
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>>378488054
He's a SPARTAN-I. The more obvious side effects of the procedures performed on him to make him a Spartan are referred to as "Boren's Syndrome" as a coverup.
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>>378488179
What I don't understand is why is many of my race complaining, we literally get everything white people get, wealth, fame, fucking presidency, what more do we want or need, Jesus? We had everything we no longer have any room to complain anymore.
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>>378472985
You mean CE? John had great characterization there, but the ball was kinda dropped for him in 2. The Arbiter's arc was great, though.
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>>378488334
>that easter egg of getting his body infected in Halo 3's final level
>"Ain't I immune to this?"
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>>378483514
GLOOTS FOR THE SLOOTS
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I would much rather have playable aliens again than have more Locke.
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The ship names in Halo are all pretty fucking cool

>Midsummer Night
>Do You Feel Lucky?
>Shadow of Intent
>Long Night Of Solace
>All Under Heaven
>Two For Flinching
>Song Of The East
>In Amber Clad
>Pillar Of Autumn
>Glasgow Kiss

The best 343 could come up with was fucking infinity. Like lmao nigga what is you doin.
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>>378488531
Hell if I know, upbringing? environment?
If you got people telling you 24/7 that you're oppressed but also special, then I guess you can justify doing a bunch of shit.
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>>378489165
>In Amber Clad
Man, I love that ship a lot.
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>>378489165
>infinity
Maybe they're fans of Marathon?
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>>378489165
i know you're not talking about music, but every time i read "in amber clad"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhfuhiveUM

my chest mang. i need to lay down. marty hold me
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>>378468274
Wow, this guy is fucking retarded.
>Hurr they hate Locke cause he's an African-American
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>>378468274
>>The only reason why people hate Locke is because a) he doesn't have enough games to properly display his character and needs more games and an origin story b) he's black
secret option c) he's an uninspiring character and a boring literal spook. evil space gestapo have always been shit
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>>378468274
I hate niggers, sorry.
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>>378468274
When Locke is not in frame, character will ask themselves, where is Locke?
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>>378471171
Halo 2 was the pinnacle imo.
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>>378471171
I love the natural progression fro Halo 1 to Halo 3, Reach was a dark time for Elites, but I'm pissed that Microsoft told 343 Halo 4 in vertical slice that it looked and played too much like Halo. Halo 4 originally had designs more inline with previous game from marines to Grunts, Master Chief's armor was originally going to look like it did in Halo 3 and 343 originally were going to bring back dual wielding and SMGs in Halo 4, fuck Don Mattrick.
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>>378494327
It's almost amazing how many catastrophes in Microsoft's gaming history can be laid at the feet of Mattrick.
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>>378494604
By all means, name some.
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>>378494327
I kinda liked some of the elite armor in reach
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>>378494729
>Xbone
>Project Natal
>"We have a system for people who want to play offline"
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>>378494729
Not him but
>Kinect
>canceling all of Rare's games for Kinect
>all first party ips started going to shit in 2009.
>the original always online, always watching, weaker than PS4 Xbox One
>Halo 4's direction
>Xbox One having gimped graphic because of Kinect
>all first party game ips disappeared because of Kinect
>Xbox One costing $500 at launch

He did all of this. Once again I hate Don Mattrick. >:(
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>>378468274
>Kill Locke
>Kill Chief
>Kill all of Osiris except Buck
>You play as mother fucking Red Team
>Make human enemies from rebels that you have to fight like everybody else
>Bring back the scary Flood
>Win anyway because you're mother fucking RED TEAM

There, I fixed Halo
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>>378494918
Me too, I wish they had better body autonomy in Reach.
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>>378468274
>Locke needs his own spin-off game and should eventually replace Master Chief

That's what Halo 5 was.
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Chiefs story should have stopped with 3, That would at least have allowed us to see more stories about the halo universe like ODST
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All they need to do is port the designs from HW2 over and bring back Brutes as a major threat. I'd wrestle a Spartan 2 if they let me drive a Condor in H6
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>>378468274
343 is shit.
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>>378471519
They'll probably merge Red Team into Halo 6's story.

>tfw Blue and Red team tearing shit up together.
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Halo 6 Pros:
>Master Chief focused
>split screen
>BTB will get more focus and be there at launch
>Forge will be there at launch
>File share will be there at launch
>everything from Halo 5 mp will be there at launch
>art style from H2A and HW2
>black undersuits
>simple story
>new writer
>less focus on esports even though it will most likely still be there
>less Warden fights
>possibly more sandbox feel for campaign due to more abilities
>Covenant vs Banished vs Prometheans

Halo 6 Cons:
>Blue Team coop focused
>still have Warden like boss fights
>Prometheans
>double jump, wall run, rail slide will be added to Spartan Abilities
>Spartan Abilities
>microtransactions
>armors can still look like shit
>looking at HW2 they may go full anime
>continuation of the Created arc
>the mobility shit is still in
>maps made for Spartan Abilities
>Campaign theater could still be axed
>no Elites in mp
>Warzone

Will Halo 6 be worth buying?
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>>378495498
>ODST
But Microsoft was disappointed in ODST and Reach's sales which is why Chief was brought back in Halo 4, plus there was a massive outcry from fans that wanted to know what happens to Chief after Halo 3.
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>>378494996
That's quite a lot of fuck ups.
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>>378496218
I know, glad his sorry ass is gone.
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>>378496264
He went to Zynga afterwards, and fucked THAT so badly he got kicked out. Think about that. He managed to make Zynga worse.
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>>378496530
He was the cancer killing Xbox, I bet he was an undercover Sony spy.
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>>378476273
>>378476186
>>378476034
>muh bulky meme

343 elites are some of the lithest elite designs in the series, the Halo 3, Wars, and Reach elites are all way bulkier.

>>378483514
That's concept art from Halo Legends, not Halo reach

>>378487472
People would still bitch about MUH CHEEF
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>>378468274
>time to expand halo universe
>nigger lol

remind me of ME:A
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Spartan IVs were a mistake.
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>>378468274
I miss the Rookie
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>>378496949
Requesting the 'Samuel died for this' edit.
>>378496940
Sure, because Johnson, Foehammer, and Romeo don't exist.
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>>378497231
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>>378484758
>Everything after Halo 3 needs to be scrapped from the canon
Naah man Halo Wars 2 was pretty good storywise and there was nothing wrong with Reach.
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>>378497352
Thanks Anon, have some Doom.
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>>378496864
http://i.imgur.com/PxleMXb.jpg

Nope! It's Reach
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>>378468274

I dont care that he's a nigger. Johnson was black and I fucking loved him. Why does he feel the need to defend him just because Locke's black? He's shit so let him be shit. Stop acting like crabs in a bucket.
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>>378485486
I'll never understand why 343 didn't make H5 have H2A's artstyle, its so fucking superior to 5 and its all done on a modded H4 engine.
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>>378488054
that's classified
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>>378496054
only if Halo 6 has ONLY THE STRONGEST WILL SURVIVE starts playing
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>>378496054
>art style from H2A and HW2

Oh sweet jesus got a source?
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>>378496864
>343 elites are some of the lithest elite designs in the series, the Halo 3, Wars, and Reach elites are all way bulkier.
Too bad the way they move in cutscenes isn't indicative of that. And the armor itself doesn't lend itself to visualizing litheness for most people.
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>>378497747
Oddly enough there's an in-lore reason why all the H5 armor and vehicle designs look like shit, especially compared to HW2. Everything in the UNSC is done by open contracting now, including straight up fucking Spartans. Corporations literally make their own Spartan armor to put on privately owned S4s, and a lot of vehicles were contracted out to help with costs, considering the budget dropped after the War ended. The reason HW2 UNSC designs look better is that they're still using the older (And flat Superior) versions.
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>>378496054
>Warzone

I can deal with Warzone if they make proper fucking maps and modes for it. It's also like they wanted to copy Titanfalls PVPVE then fucked it all up.
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What was meant by this?
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>>378498072
>Corporations literally make their own Spartan armor to put on privately owned S4s
I'm surprised they were able to get the data on how to make S4s. I figured it'd be a closely guarded secret by the UNSC.
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>>378498072
>theres a lore reason why we use the worst designs
I think thats even worse honestly.
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>>378498167
you faggots finally did it?
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>>378498170
This, whomever thought private-sector Spartans was a good idea is a retard. It's not like ONI made anyone who found out about the Spartans disappear or anything.
>>
https://youtube.com/watch?v=K5pdCUnM6GY
>mfw this scene has no more meaning become of 4 and 5
It's not fair damn it
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what is this that belongs to me meme
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>>378498170
>>378498327
S4s are more like ODSTs in power armor. As soon as the MJOLNIR platform was released (Originally to have corporations make armor for the UNSC), they could pretty much make their own Spartans. It's a bit of a rarity, though armor descriptions hint at corporate warfare becoming a more literal thing as Spartan operators from opposing Companies go against one another.

As it stands a good S2 could still rip through any Private Spartans in old fashioned MJOLNIR.
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>>378498350
Fuck forgot image
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>>378498439
An S3 could tear an S4 a new butthole.
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>>378498567
Yeah. If I remember right, an S3 can take a squad of S4s, and an S2 could (pretty easily) take a squad of S3s.
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>niggers

the whole Spartan program shit was overwhelmingly only white compatible
autistic hyper-lethal S2 whites > normalfag jeopardize-the-mission-bcuz-our-feelings colored S4s
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>>378499023
Pretty sure Johnson was part of the project that was the prototype for Spartans. Sorry /pol/.
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>>378498439
>>378498327
I'm gonna need sauce on private sector Spartans.

I can see their armor being made third party, but S4s actually outside the UNSC?
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>>378499308
One of the armor descriptions hint at Spartans being used in corporate shadow warfare, and with how S4 armor is it's not all that wild of an idea.
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>>378478735

Faster movement speed isn't a bad thing and Halo should have had it from the beginning. Probably the single biggest weakness of the series is that it's full of giant open areas but you always move at a crawl.
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>>378499169
Johnson transcends race. He;s the god of marines
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>>378468274
It's pretty funny that this guy has responded to every comment
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>>378498684
I suppose that'd depend on which kind of S3 we're talking about here, child soldiers with shitty invisi-armor or fully decked out with MJOLNIR ones

like, i'm pretty sure Noble 6 could take on a shitter like Daisy for example
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>>378499597
The S3's really got screwed over.
>that giant fucking suicide operation at the start of ghosts of onyx
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>>378499816
>Tfw you realize that was the plan all along
>Tfw you realize none of them are getting out

Honestly, even S2s had a really dark beginning.
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>>378499816
There were two giant suicide operations

And possibly a third, with the leftover on Onyx during the book being the few they didn't want to send on a suicide mission
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>>378497942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUevQ7S1MM
Around 3:26
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>>378499023
Spartan IIs had blacks, shouldn't you be at /pol/?
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>>378499816

Expendability was the entire purpose of the S3 project
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This dude needs to keep sucking Crapgamer's dick to stay relevant. He (KMEGA) said that Persona 5 was trash but admits he never played it.
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>>378500564
Which is why I said they got screwed over.
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>>378500718

That would imply they initially weren't, but then changed to be.
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>>378497902
HUH? My ass! Well you can forget about those adjustments to your A2 Scope
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>>378497001
>Killed offscreen in some shitty literally who comic or novel i can't even fucking remember

The EU was a mistake
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>>378468274
when is halo 6?
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>>378501369
Werent spartan III's orphans of soldiers? Sounds like life in general screwed them over pretty hard.
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>>378468274

Locke sucks. The whole reason Halo 5 got less hype than the last Halo was because of Locke.

No one cared about him. When everyone found out the chief wasn't the main character... grumbling.

It's like a Metal Gear without a Snake.
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>>378501641
Not OP but either next year or in 2019.
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>>378501714
This
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>>378501714
To be completely fair, I know several people who would have played it if Buck was the main character. Everybody loves Buck.
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>>378501641
hopefully never
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>>378501924
This, even the Metal Gear without Snake Comparison is bad considering how much people loved MGR.

Locke is just a bad character that feels like he's been forced into the franchise, playing a character you're completely unfamiliar in the 5th iteration of the franchise to "hunt down" the character you've played in every other game is fucking dumb and immediately makes you not want to align with their goals. At least Buck is an established character who is witty and comical and it would've been nice to play as him instead of Locke, I'm sure there would've been not even half the amount of bitching if Buck was the leader of Osiris instead of Locke.
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>We need more PoC protagonists instead of bald and boring white space marines
Are they implying that black people aren't boring?
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>>378501924

He could have worked better since he's an established character in the franchise and was one for several year.

They could have Resident Evil'd it. Chief as Chris Redfield. Buck as Leon S. Kennedy.
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>>378502096
Buck had the benefit of having a pre-established personality, so he'd survive being set as the "leader" and main character of the group. Locke was doomed because by being the leader and viewpoint, the writers naturally wrote him "less."
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>>378502096

Metal Gear Rising is a spinoff like Halo Wars.
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>>378498029
Sure, and I agree that the cutscenes and their armor are shit, but those are fundamentally different problems from the actual anatomical designs.

>>378497482
I'm still calling bullshit and would guess that was mislabeled then, that's clearly the elite design from The Babysitter or Prototype
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Just let Halo die already. ODST is the last game in the series worth a shit.
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>>378502365
Okay a better comparison would be MGS2 where people were disappointed they didn't play as Snake but were still okay playing as Raiden. Makes more sense I guess than my MGR comparison.
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Just let halo die and re-release the original 3 games and maybe odst and reach once every five years forever. I was probably the biggest halo guy out there but its a dead horse. Make a new ip
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>all those dislikes

We can do better, /v/.
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>>378502375

The Halo: Legends page is elsewhere in the book.
http://i.imgur.com/Esnymq1.jpg
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>>378502546
I'd unironically buy Destiny 2 before i'd buy another Halo game.
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>>378502504
halo 2 is mgs2 halo 5 is mgsv
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>>378468274
master chief should've died 5 games ago, he's never been a good character, cortana was the good character, chief was just a cipher with a cool armor, just like Isaac Clarke.
buck should be the star of the show
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>>378503357
Kill yourself see>>378473426
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>>378502282
Kill yourself, /pol/.
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>>378502282
Stay in your fucking containment thread /pol/.
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>>378503606
You're the ones that say there's no difference in race, so if an average white guy is boring then an average black guy can be boring too. Just average in general is boring and that also applies to nogs.
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>>378503606
>whites are boring but blacks aren't
That's racist desu.
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>>378476025
If you don't pick 3 then what the fuck is wrong with you?
CE's is best though.
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>>378484758
>Chief's slumber has to mean something
THIS
I always imagined that Halo 4 would have something to do with humanity running and hiding because they were ass raped by aliens and Chief wasn't there to help
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Isn't HALO dead regardless? I'm ignorant, how many people play the newest entry?
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>>378502282
Go away /pol/ jesus
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>>378502282
>/pol butts into another thread
What a shock!
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>>378504478
it's fucking dead as fuck
nothing but H3:A on PC or MCC on PC will revive it
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>>378504478
I skipped 5 but played HW2, mostly because I'm invested in Cutter and my shipfu
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>>378468274
Who's Locke? Halo 5? They didn't even make a Halo 4 what are you talking about?
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>>378504530
How original, Reddit.
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>>378504471
They were always going to continue Chief's story, a lot of the fanbase wanted to know what would happen next to the Master Chief and the series sales dropped after Halo 3 with ODST and Reach.
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>>378504639
Halo 3 on PC would be really nice, would convince me to play through the OG trilogy.
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>>378504701
>pol calling others reddit
LOL go back to /r/The_Donald faggot
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>>378503606
>>378503685
>>378504530
>>378504624
Like cuckwork.
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>>378468274
>The Halo franchise can't survive if they keep using Master Chief as the main character

Yeah thats totally why mario and zelda are dead.
Same reason that pokemon show isnt going anymore either, needed a new guy not ash
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I'm worried about the voice acting in Halo 6, Jen Taylor and Steve Downes are on strike. :(
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>>378504781
>cuck
XD Upcoated my good sir
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>>378502282
Go back to >>>/pol/ stormweenie
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>thread about "the only reason why people hate [character] is because he is [not white]"
>replacing [white] character with [non white] character
>needing "more PoC protagonists instead of bald and boring [whites]"

>not expecting /pol/ to show up
this was a shitpost thread from the start
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>>378504968
>>378504772
>>378504624
>>378504530
>>378503606
>>378503685
>Anti /pol/fags derail another thread
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>>378504716
This is true but it's not like that doesn't mean the story isn't shit. Artists should care about making high quality products and not just milking things out forever. No one does that but still.
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>>378505179
I'm almost certain it's just one salty retard.

4chan has always been racist, it's a fucking counterculture.
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Expanding the lore and doing different new things is all well and good when the core games you put out are not fanfiction garbage. Exlanding from shit games like nuHalo will just give you more shit games.
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>>378486323
Looks like a fucking football team.
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>>378468274
I don't give a shit, the halo story ended at 3 and everything beyond that is absolute retconned garbage.

I came for the hardcore military scifi and 343 gave me AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS, YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE, and then suddenly everyone is a spartan.
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>>378505529
All they had to do was make ODST 2 but instead they split the team and killed the fucking rookie in a goddamn book.
I will never not be mad.
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Guardians would have been a gorillion times better if instead of Osiris we had Bucks ODST team hunting MC. I mean its 343 so they would still make a meh game at best but the characters would definitely elevate it a bit.
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>>378505864
This, at least we would have actual characters instead of cardboard cutouts.
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>>378505661
That's Conan and Andy Richter.
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>>378496054
>343
Nope
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>>378496054
>less warden fights
>there will still be warden fights
fuck
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>>378496054
>everything from Halo 5 mp will be there at launch
So 6 is going to be 5: ODST, pretty much?
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>>378508361
Well it will have all of Halo 5 stuff but improved.
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>>378471418
that makes you a race traitor then.
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>>378508780
Just because I'm black doesn't mean I need to like a black character.
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Halo should move on past master chief

...but Locke should not be the one to carry the torch.
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>we went from the pillar of autumn
>to a fucking flying railgun
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>>378508974
See>>378473426
Stop treating this like some shitty Sony series about passing the torch, Chief is Halo.
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>>378468907
Are all Halo fans this retarded?
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>>378509192
UNSC ships always looked like guns.
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>>378509308
Not him but see>>378509290
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>>378473128
Why would you be a Halo fan and not own an Xbox?
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>>378470076
lol
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>>378468274
The universe is being expanded, rather than accepting a shitty character in hopes that they do more characters that won't be shit let's just praise and promote the new characters that aren't shit
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>>378468274
Yes goy, come on and let your childhood hero get killed off by a black guy. Blacks are soooo coooool!
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>>378508974
I agree. Personally I want more alien main characters.
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>>378509308
He's not wrong, if Halo drops Chief it's popularity would plummet. Chief is the face of Halo and statistically games without him sell less units. 5 sold almost the same as Reach because the marketing and ads spent more time focusing of Locke instead of Chief.
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>>378509837
This
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>>378509837
If it wasn't for MS inflating 4 and 5's stats I garuentee Reach would be the best selling Halo
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>>378509290
That seems kinda short-sighted. John is gonna have to retire, or maybe even die, eventually, not to mention Steve Downes is gonna wanna retire his voice at some point.

Halo can absolutely go on without John, 343 just needs to use actually compelling characters to do it.
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>>378509921
>Reach would be the best selling Halo
Not him but that's Halo 3, ODST and Reach disappointed Microsoft in sales, makes me wonder why they went this route again in Halo 5.
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>>378510034
>compelling character
Lol what compelling characters. Chief is the halo mang.
Not only that but it 343 we are talking about.

Man I'm still salty cortana came back. Not that I didn't like her but they should of committed to her death. Was waiting for that og squad action.
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>>378510034
See>>378509837
Steve Downes can be replaced which seems like it will already happen with Halo 6 since he, Jen Taylor, and Jennifer Hale are on strike. Chief aging is most likely slowed significantly due to augmentation, cryo sleep, and genesong awakening, then we have the possibility that UNSC will improve their armor to be able to make a Spartan ageless like the Forerunners and then there's the Forerunner Cryptum that can lock a person up for millions of years without aging.
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>>378510071
I don't know where you are getting this, I could see ODST not hitting the mark but even then just barely

Halo lives on the name, not John. Otherwise Microsoft wouldn't be greenlighting fucking console RTS of all things
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>>378470780
EGG HEDS

PFFFFFFTTTTT I THOT U BE TALLER
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>>378468274
If Locke had been the main character from the beginning, nobody would have had a problem. If Master Chief turned out to be black, few people would have a problem. If Halo 5 had been a spinoff, where playing as Locke was the main focus, instead of being presented as Halo 5, and expecting to be able to play as Master Chief, few would have a problem. If Halo 5's writing and campaign wasn't shit, few would have a problem.

I mean, it's not that hard:
>Have one of the most successful franchises in Video Games in the 00s.
>Main character is an icon. Master Chief is a household name.
>Another game steals the limelight
>Newest title takes inspiration from that game instead of holding true to it's roots. Result is a total stinker
>New console is butt
>Franchise needs a hit to remain relevant
>FORCE PLAYER TO PLAY AS NEW CHARACTER THEY'VE NEVER HEARD OF, WITH SHORT CAMPAIGN, WITH A SHITTY PLOT

If they wanted people to like Locke, they did it in a really shitty and backwards way that never works. Just look at how Street Fighter 3 sold like butt after they cut away everyone but Ryu and Ken (Later Chun and Akuma). People get attached to major characters, and just replacing them after years of the same thing doesn't work.
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>>378468274
>they need be like Star Wars and expand beyond Master Chief (Luke)

Yeah remember all those good star wars movies after the first 3? What a hit!
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>>378510286
>Lol what compelling characters. Chief is the halo mang.
Thel and Rtas for two! In fact, throw in N'tho and Uzse for good measure.
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>>378509837
It would be like releasing Modern Warfare 4 with no Price.
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>>378509416
>>378509837
Resident Evil doesn't even really have a main protagonist, MGS has switched protagonists multiple times, one of the best Half Life expansions doesn't have Gordon as the player charecter, this shit happens all he time and it would make sense for Halo to switch protagonists considering how far the story has gone.
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>>378510526
That would be cool AF, but we both know that's not gonna happend
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>>378510487
>FORCE PLAYER TO PLAY AS NEW CHARACTER THEY'VE NEVER HEARD OF
Most people familiar with the series knew who Locke was, he's in Halo 2. Only the babbies who came in at 3 didn't.
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>>378510363
Spencer: "We kind of lost our way a little bit, I'll say. And that's why I wanted to make sure that at the unveiling of Halo 4, you knew you were playing Master Chief, that John was back - because Master Chief is the John Wayne character of that universe, and that's who you want to play. Fundamentally there are a ton of players on our box right now that didn't start with Halo 1, If you were new to Xbox 360 - 360 is where you started playing on Xbox - you understood what Halo 3 was. ODST and Reach, maybe you weren't as centred. The game has a history now, and it's about bringing new customers into the fiction."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-12-microsoft-we-lost-our-way-with-halo

Halo Wars was a completely different genre that sold surprisingly well for a console RTS even if niche.
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>>378510616
Halo is a series that's fanbase consists almost entirely of children and manchildren, they want something they recognise.
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When will they add female Sangheili?
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>>378510616
Master Chief considered Halo to the fanbase so it just doesn't work for the series. Frank O'Connor said it himself Master Chief was just an avatar for the player but grew into his own iconic character like Samus did after the original Metroid, so like with Metroid fans are not going to take it kindly when you replace either character.
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>>378510794
I can't tell if this is a joke about H2A or not. You can never tell with some people, y'know?

>>378510925
Actually seeing them in the games themselves? Probably Halo 6, perhaps. After all, Blue Team is now on Sanghelios and stuff.
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>>378510963
>Frank O'Connor said it himself Master Chief was just an avatar for the player
Eh, I don't really buy that from him. John had his own character in CE, after all. Though that largely disappeared in H2 and H3.
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>>378510809
We can agree to disagree but I'm still not convinced it's not 343i's shit direction turning people away instead of the lack of Chief.

And Spencer can say what he wants to say, but that doesn't make it any more true. He's just a yes man that says what people want to hear.
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>>378511268
>but I'm still not convinced it's not 343i's shit direction turning people away instead of the lack of Chief.
I certainly think it's the former.
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What a retard that guy is
>No it doesn't
>people hate Locke because it's more of 343's "just read the extensive lore if you want to truly appreciate it" bullshit excuses for terrible characters who have no personality. Him being black means nothing. Chief was, in Bungies hands, a blank avatar for the player to Immerse themselves in the world of Halo. For all the player could've known, Chief was a black guy or a mexican or what the fuck ever. He's a giant suit of armor with a gravely voice who is stoic and has a sense of duty and that's it. We don't hear about his favorite band or if he has a fetish for unicorns to be le quirky because it doesn't matter. He is you, the player, and you are Chief. He's your access to the world of Halo.
>Sure, but if it sucks shit then whoopdey doo who saw that coming
>No we don't. People keep spouting that out but then don't want to put the effort to define anything beyond White and PoC because they're lazy shitheads who just want to complain. Is Nikko a white bald space marine type? Don't blame other devs for their creations unless there's merit to your argument.
>Yes and no. Locke is boring because he's just some straight laced asshole who we don't know a thing about. He has a name, a backstory tied to some Ridley Scott directed shitshow no one watched. Why do I have to put myself into the viewpoints of a character I don't know anything about or even remotely agree with? Chief is Chief. That's it. We know his name is John and he is a super soldier. As I said earlier, he's an avatar for the player. His character traits are to be so generalized as to apply to anyone, so his actual defining traits can be easy for anyone to go along with when the story elements hit
>Yeah, sure, whatever helps you sleep at night, fag
>Yes it can, pussy
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Locke is the nigger right? The last thing western media needs is more niggers
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>>378511453
>just read the extensive lore if you want to truly appreciate it
Not even then. Locke was pretty bland in that mini-series, and nothing in it related to his character in Halo 5.
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>>378476186
One of Bungies biggest influence on the aesthetic of Halo was Aliens. And Aliens, being a product of it's time, used current gen tech and material as a basis for it's sci fi instead of prospective tech and material. It gives it a realistic appeal that is easily identifiable with.

343i's biggest incfluence on the aesthetic was Crysis and Anime. While that's not inherently bad, it conflicts with it's roots. Because now it's just all around foreign. None of it is identifiable.

It's like all those prospective car designs you see in magazines that never come to market, and are overall just fucking pointless.
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>>378511268
>343i's shit direction turning people away instead of the lack of Chief
It's both, part of Halo 5's sells drop is due to MCC and the removal of split screen, the other was for the absence of the Master Chief. Halo 2 got backlash for the Arbiter taking up half the game in 2004, ODST and Reach had a sales decline after Halo 3, from 2009-2011 many were asking about what will happen next to the Master Chief, image to the left was made by someone tricking people with a fake Halo 4 image I will post another one after this post. After Halo 4 even though 343 got considerable backlash for the mp, people were still interested in where Chief's adventures would take him. When 343 announced Locke in Halo 5 they were already receiving backlash on replacing the Chief,it got worse when Locke's actor stated that he was the main character, then some leaker stated that Halo 5's sp would be similar to MGS2 and the backlash only grew. 34 got backlash again at E3 2015 with people asking where's the Chief. when the mission screen leaked revealing all 15 missions and Chief only playable in three of those missions it was over. Phil at the time knew everything that going on in Microsoft of course he still does so if he stated that they were disappointed with ODST and Reach then Microsoft as a whole was disappointed in ODST and Reach.
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>>378511936
Shit forgot to post image
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>>378511936
and image number 2
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>>378511779
Don't forget Star Wars and the Avengers. Bungie also had some Starship Troopers in there as well.
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>>378485869
And brown eyes
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>>378512420
Meant 343 also had Star Wars and the Avengers as inspiration.
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>>378512450
Blue eyes
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hows the online for Halo 5? its been like 2 years since the game came out, is it still alive?
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>>378468274
Hahahahaaha

If chief dies halo dies. This isn't star wars you fucking moron it's halo. Damn some people are so stupid.

The game is about the bond between cortana and John now.. a big part at least. The conclusion will weigh on this heavily.
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>>378512987
This
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>>378511268
More like shit everything. music,level design, weapon balance, art direction, just shit all the way down to the extent its fucking impressive they found people who hated halo enough to fuck it so thoroughly
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>>378513115
John looks so effeminate when standing next to Thel.
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>>378478447

>Loved the Halo Diorama that I tried making my own, Working hard to afford and gather what I could to make it.
>Autistic mind goes to Mega-Bloks for convenience, Had the Pelican and Phantom and all.
>Played Halo 4
>Put set away
>Play Halo 5
>Currently selling $1000 bucks worth of Halo shit for $300

It hurts bros
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>>378484758
this, but halo wars is semi ok.
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>>378512710
dead as fuck
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>>378468274
Master Chief is a dude with a smooth radio voice who's dialogue consists of one liners.

Locke is a dude with a normal black guy voice who's dialogue consists of exposition.
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>>378468274
Let's be honest here.
The only way people would have been okay with Johnson was if he wasn't a smug dick and was shown to be Johnsons grandkid or something.
And the game was better written
And had better art style
And had local co-op.

MC is good but H4 should have been a century in the future and started with some new spartans hunting for chief after getting a distress call from Cortana.
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>>378513783
I've seen a lot of people on my friend's list playing it recently, although that might just be because the game pass is free* for the first two weeks and it's really one of the only worthwhile games on it, despite not being very worthwhile.

*for gold members
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>>378514145
See>>378511936
Wouldn't have worked.
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>>378468274
>Halo needs to kill off Master Chief
Halo needs to stop. It even had a perfect opportunity to stop. It didn't.
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>>378482761
Only if you're stressed out all of the time. Master Chief is always cool.
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>>378512041
Is this Halo 4?
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>>378514521
Some fake image someone made in 2010 stating it was Halo 4 to trick people.
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Why didn't reach get xbox upgrade/release? My only problem with reach is the choppy framerate
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>>378484837
>halo prime
things i didn't know i wanted.
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>>378476025
3
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>>378514850
It wouldn't have sold
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>>378502504
>disappointed they didn't play as Snake
This is an understatement. Plus MGS2 was about Snake coaching Raiden. You still got to see Snake in all his glory, you just didn't play him.
Now imagine if you were playing as Raiden hunting down Snake in MGS2, and Raiden was billed to be every bit as good as Snake.

Anyway, all these comparisons are unnecessary because we already have the example of Halo 2. The majority of players were not happy about not playing as the Chief in a game involving him, so much so that split main characters was wisely dropped for Halo 3 (and only brought back in spin offs like ODST).
Truth is that 343i are just idiots and seem incapable of learning anything from Bungie (despite how many ex Bungie staffers they have). Locke was a poorly designed character and was justifiably disliked by the player base.
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>>378514258
People hated two things about halo 2. Being forced to play as the arbiter, and the big TO BE CONTINUED ending. The loss of health packs just upset fucking everyone.

The arbiter portions fucking sucked.
The ending fucking infuriated EVERYONE
The health packs thing was the death of an era and many people are still unsure if it was a good thing or not.

Reach shit the bed because it was a terrible terrible terrible fucking game and added shit to the mythos that no one cared about and just sucked dick overall.

ODST shit the bed because the vast majority of it took place in some big empty goddamned city. The fact that it wasn't about chief meant very little.

Four was outright hated by everyone. Because it wasn't halo. It just didn't feel right or look right. Plus it was filled with assholes and shit from the books that no one gave a fuck about.

Five basically fucked the entire goddamned world with just a lot of stupid bullshit and the complete loss of local co-op.

Mainline games have to star the chief and have co-stars.
Stuff like ODST can have as many side characters as you want.
But the main game has to have a few things

The chief
The funny AI sidekicks
The over the top simple popcorn action flick story and tropes
The dirty pseudo realistic aesthetic that is heavily influenced by 90's sci-fi and action movies.
The basic guns with only a few new ones thrown into the mix
The grenades
The vehicles
Local co-op.

If the local co-op had a mode where you and 4 other people had to fight a shitload of aliens in a randomly generated world to build points for whatever random superficial thing then fuck yeah. Lot of replay value that can help sell XB1s and gold memberships.
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>>378515620
I agree with you, you are actually right.
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>>378515387
Am I really the only one that liked the Arbiter levels?
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>>378515620
Continuing from this comment >>378515774, 343 actually knew about the Arbiter backlash as it came up in a community post when they reveal the Arbiter loot, yet these dumb mother fuckers still made the same mistake.
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>>378515792
Probably. He wasn't a bad character. He just played so differently from the chief that it was just a hassle. Something we were forced to do. Not something we COULD do.

If they had any goddamned balls or common sense they'd have just split the game into two and made the arbiter levels an entirely new game to play through so they could unlock some random THING at the end.
Incentivize people to play through that untested and totally hated part, not force them to do it no matter what.
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343 is shit and should stop making halo games. Halo 4&5 are abomanitions that shouldn't exist.
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>>378515973
Not him but agreed.
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HALO ENDED WITH REACH
MASTER CHIEF IS THE ONLY REAL SPARTAN
THE REST IS FANFIC TIER DONUTSTEEL
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>>378515792
Oh I enjoyed them in the end, especially the last few. But the backlash against them at release was undeniable. 343 should have realised that doing the same thing was super risky, especially when the made the 2nd character a direct antagonist to the Chief. Arby had the benefit of never interacting with the Chief in Halo 2 outside of the gravemind scenes. It made him neutral to the chief. Locke, not so much
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>>378516198
>implying S-3's arent damn cool
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>>378516328
It was even more stupid that they thought giving him not only the first mission but most of the game was a good idea, there was a reason Reed got fired and this was the reason. Instead of making a spin-off like ODST and Reach he wanted to force the experience of ODST and Reach in a main numbered Chief game. and Now he's out of a job, dumbass.
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>>378516431
>S-3'
>any capable vet gets to be a spartan now.
Nah FUCK THAT. I mean look at that female commander. She fuckin shot Halsey cause she's an unstable emotional lunatic that couldn't think straight because
>muh ebil doctor
Nah fuck that. Chief is then only true spartan
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>>378517030
Dude those the 4s, the 3s are the orphans that were sent on suicide missions during the height of the war to buy time for the rest of the UNSC.
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>>378517112
Yeah my bad I just read that.
Noble team was S3. And Reach was fantastic.
I still stand by my case though. I really tried liking 4-5.
But 343 trying to force that Locke is on the same level as the Chief?
>mfw
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