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Chrono Trigger remake when

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>We will never EVER get a Chrono Trigger remake with DQH II level graphics

Why is Squenix so fucking shit bros?
Why do they hate money?

Look at the assets they already have because to the DQH games, just colour that guy's hair red and boom Chrono's model is done!
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the series needs to be revived before it can have any remakes
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>>378445643
What if a remake revives it
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>>378445346
STOP ASKING FOR REMAKES!
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>>378445346
why exactly would I want a remake? the game is perfect as is
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Come to think of it CT doesn't get that much love from Square.

Chrono doesn't even get to cameo in any games like Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia.
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>>378445346
Why the hell would this need a remake? It's perfect as is. Virtual console is all it needs. If you want modern graphics ask for a sequel, not a remake.
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It isn't just the graphics that are dated in old games, it's the gameplay
They'd have to remake the whole game to make it appeal to modern audiences, which would turn off fans who just want a visual facelift

If you want to play the old games, go play them. There's nothing wrong with pixel graphics
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>>378445973
I'd say not appearing in KH is a win for Crono
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>>378445346
Doesn't need a remake desu
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>>378445865
Come on the game is great but let's not pretend that it being remade in current gen graphics wouldn't be amazing.

Imagine the insane level of detail they could put into all the different time periods. It would be beautiful.
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>>378446265

Speak for yourself I'd pay good money to have a large boss fight with Lynx or to team up with Kid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAtgbBKyW9o
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Chrono Trigger is actually a pretty small game, it could be remade easily if they don't add any content & keep the art style simple like DQ

But Square likes to pretend Chrono franchise doesn't exist & Akira Toriyama probably can't even remember working on it
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>>378445346
>We will never EVER get a Chrono Trigger remake with DQH II level graphics
Good.
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>>378446501
>Akira Toriyama probably can't even remember working on it
Considering it's just recolored DBZ I don't see why not
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>>378446751
Toriyama would see Crono & actually think it's SSJ4 Gogeta, his memory is famously bad
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>>378445973
they won't touch that series because Triggeredfags are some of the biggest autists in all of games, whom literally killed the series in the first place
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>>378445346
2008.
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>>378447237
That's a port & not a good one
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>>378445346
>one on the right looks pretty decent for 2D
>lots of bright colors
>good contrast
>good detail

>one on the left looks pretty cheap and flat for 3D

>"We will never EVER get a Chrono Trigger remake with DQH II level graphics"

Good?
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>>378445346
DQH 2 doesn't even look good
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>>378447461
Apart from the re-translation, it's fine.
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>>378447237
FIENDLORD
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Pretty crap game to be honest anyway. Old RPG's had a hard time making compelling characters which is the only reason anyone would play an RPG because the gameplay isn't very fun so without a good cast to draw you in there's not really any reason to play it. Early Final Fantasy suffers from this too. And final fantasy after seven too
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>>378445346
>remember chrono resurrection
>remember how happy i was it got C&D because some twats thought it was a good idea to port a perfect 2D game to 3D.
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>>378447461
>& not a good one
compared to what, the PS1 version?
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>>378449391
and what video games would you say have compelling characters my friend of epically good tastes?
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>>378445346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=233kmUiW-Rc
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>>378449391
I hope you are not implying the trails series has good compeling characters or else i'm gonna deck you in the gabber m8.
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>>378450197>>378450487


Trails in the Sky, Phoenix Wright, hmmmm, I'm not sure what else off the top of my head.
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>>378446334
Fuck off your underage moron.

You're why video games are dying.
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>>378447461
>not a good one

this is false it is fine
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>>378450568
>Trails in the sky
lolno
>Phoenix Wright
That's not an RPG you dumb cock snatcher.
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>>378450675
>video games
>dying
sorry, but it's growing. It may not be in the direction you want, but you are old and the industry doesn't care about you. It needs new blood to keep it thriving, you are just a relic of a bygone era. A mindless consumer, that's already been hooked on the electronic crack and willing to eat up anything your good masters spit out, even if it's shit.
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>>378450568
I knew you were epic, but didn't know you were that epic anon. haha.
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>>378450568
Trails in the Sky is shit. I played 8 hours in and it still isn't good. If a game takes >10 hours to get good, it's a bad game.
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>>378446751
Toriyama can't remember Launch. Or the Ox King. Or most of the characters from Dragon Ball, even.
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>>378447003
Chrono Cross being shit and the fanbase hating it doesn't mean the fanbase is bad. Do you also say Metroid, Paper Mario, and Star Fox have bad fanbases because they reject the shit games? What about Mega Man? Street Fighter? Castlevania?
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>>378448197
The retranslation is fine bro. I don't need magus cracking disney tier jokes at frog because it was the SNES era and translators were shit
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>>378447461

It's alright, really. Don't listen to this assfagot.
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>>378450953
I'm sure as hell he meant the entire video-game franchise is going down the drain in terms of quality only to appeal morons like you.
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>>378451681
Lost Sanctum is shit, though.
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It's not FF
SE doesn't care
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>>378451936
SE cares more about DQ than FF.
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>>378451850
>content created by Square Enix

Serves you right for expecting anything than shit from them.
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>>378445346
Why would you want this? The original is still fantastic
DQH looks like ass anyway
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>>378451990
If they cared more about DQ than FF they would've already confirmed the translation of dq11
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>>378452145
They did
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>>378450953
>It needs new blood
>wants remakes
Fucking moron
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Asking for remakes of classics...

What you are basically asking for is this. Presumably a company that you love to take some of it's talented individuals, time, and money- waste at least a year and a half, most likely more- then dump money into marketing, for a game, that's already been made, that is almost universally agreed to be amazing.

Seriously? Why would you not just want that group to work on something that'd be a new experience?

Also, spoiler alert. Say they do make a remake of it, you're just going to come back here and shitpost about how the original was better.

People who plead for remakes are fucking bottom feeder monkeys.
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>>378446463
This is the exact reason it shouldn't be remade in 3D. It looks so stupid and the animations drag and and it makes no sense. If they were able to give it a good HD remake that would be OK but please no 3D models and changed battle system so it looks like that turd.
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Chrono Trigger had a ton of cut content & no super boss, due to the fact Square wanted to quickly move focus to PSX

A remake could improve it, but this is Square in 2017, so yeah
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>>378452940
>due to the fact Square wanted to quickly move focus to PSX

That's bull. They used every bit of space available in a SNES cartrdige. That's why.
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>>378453132
Nah, space wasn't the issue, time was, ironically
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>>378452940
>no super boss
thank god
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>>378445865
This

I'm really fucking tired of remakes. FFVII is a good example of what happens when you try to remake a classic RPG. You HAVE to fuck up the combat system and overall gameplay to make it presentable in 3D form and in the current generation.
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>>378447461
>not a good one
DS version is superior to all else, fag.
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>>378452940
>Chrono Trigger had a ton of cut content & no super boss

Like?
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>>378449391
>not liking Frog

oh i wasn't aware you had no soul

>>378445346
Why? Game looks perfectly fine in 2D. I'd rather they make something new and original and actually good. Make a game with the same sense of originality and adventure as CT. Do something weird like Live-a-Live.
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>>378453327
DQ is still ATB, Square just thinks Westerners don't like ATB
They are probably right though
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I'll never forgive Square for killing the fan-made Chrono Trigger game. Stupid motherfuckers.

Fucking ass backwards nips.
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>>378445346

But Chrono Trigger already has good graphics

shit, that and the soundtrack are the only parts of CT that hold up
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>>378445346
NO
CT doesn't need a remake since it's timeless

Also no sequel either unless it's the original team
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Only if Horii is involved
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Legit question: why does /v/ hate Chrono Cross?
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>>378445346
>>Wah no gud remak da gam
>>So stoopid no gud remak da gam

>>remak da bes game be even bests game.
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>>378453265
Unfinished content is hardly the same as cut content though.

Every single game in the history of games has unfinished content that didn't make it in.
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>>378446334
I imagine it would look like a bland piece of shit with 3D graphics.

You think the game looks bad graphically because you play it on a shitty LCD TV which makes low res 240p games look much worse than they actually do.
Play it on a good CRT(a BVM/PVM preferably) from an original SNES with RGB and you'll be stunned by how great the game still looks
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>Wanting multiple remakes

This is one of the many reasons video games as a hobby and Industry is utter shit.

Kill your collective selves
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>>378453518
Here's all the cut material
https://tcrf.net/Chrono_Trigger_(SNES)
Not a lot of stuff really
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>>378446265
I would like a Secret Magus boss-fight 2bh
I'm sick and tired of Momma's boy Sephiroth
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>>378453518
Quite a few dungeons, Forest Ruins, Singing Mountain, A Mountain in 12,000 BC (Toriyama based his cover art on this) Schala's Dungeon, Coliseum

Plus other things planned like Schala & Flea joining the party
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>>378450568
>female naruto
>good
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>>378453725
Ugly characters and/or they didn't play it.

Or maybe they hate it because it killed the franchise by not being as good as the first one, and not fostering a sequel.
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>>378445346
Remakes are cancer.
What's stopping you from playing it now?
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>>378445346
Why would you remake the game that represents the peak of 2D RPGs? I can at least understand why people wanted FF7R since the original used crude early 3D technology.
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>>378447461
DS version is the best and I'm a faggot who has nostalgia toward the snes version and I have to fight it to admit the DS version is the best.
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>>378453853
This. It's almost always some early storyboards that ended up not going anywhere rather than actual cut content.
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>>378454007
Singing Mountain is in the DS version at least.
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Some games need remakes because they came out on the NES for example and their mechanics are very wonky and unfun
Or on the PS1 generation and its primitive 3D graphics make the game look like puke today
CT is not one of those games
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>>378452572
I wouldn't want a remake no matter what

But a Chrono Trigger 2 with the original dream team + Cuphead-tier 2D graphics and most importantly NO FUCKING VOICE ACTING would be fucking amazing
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>>378454006
KH3 better not have Sephiroth again for fuck sake & yeah a boss from Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger would be sick
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>>378454019
>>378453540
>>378451047
>>378451036
>>378450789

All they can do is tear others down instead of building themselves up. How very typical.
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>>378447461
The new content is dogshit but everything else is fine and you can ignore that.
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>>378445346
It was actually in production as a fan-made remake but SE shut it down. Can't have fans making free 3D remakes of your ancient shit.
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Wouldn't you want DQ11 grafics?
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Radical Dreamers needs a remake more than anything. It is just a visual novel.
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>>378454215
This always looked bad, I'm glad they got shut down.
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>>378454075
The song is i think but not the dungeon

That's what pisses me off about the DS version, instead of adding in any cut content, they add utter shit & try to connect it to Cross
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>>378453578
>shit, that and the soundtrack are the only parts of CT that hold up
Fuck off with this b8
Go back to /vg/ you fucking cancer
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>>378454019
Not that guy but I admit the second game is much worse than the first because it literally turns into female naruto with the runaway ninja guy, a super sekrit evil organization and then they fight god with 99% of the game being pointless. The first was great on its own though.
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>>378453725
Because it's not even remotely tied into Chrono Trigger in any way. They used the name because Trigger was tremendously successful.
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>>378454007
If >>378453967 is correct, it really doesn't look like much was dropped.
>Plus other things planned like Schala & Flea joining the party
This definitely sounds like dropped idea rather than cut.

>>378454030
>Or maybe they hate it because it killed the franchise by not being as good as the first one
Like that ever stopped Square from ever making a game.
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>>378454173
Frog has a pretty solid character arc. He goes from being a wannabe hero without courage, to being cursed and watching his friend die, to eventually becoming a hero to avenge his friend and help his new pals.
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>>378450568
>shitty tsundere #1223939431312
>good
I bet you think visual novels are games too
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>>378445346
>Chrono Trigger remake when
pls no,just let the dead stay dead
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>>378454351
You always looked bad. I'm glad you got shut down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNkqKC7nwls
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>>378454371
>they add utter shit & try to connect it to Cross
Blame that bitter cunt Masato Kato
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>>378454456
dropped ideas is just trying to whitewash it, some games just run out of time & have to cut heaps of shit (FFXV being a recent example)

There is a reason CT is so short & is padded with so much backtracking post Zeal
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>>378454371
Well the snowy mountain where you fight a Heckran looking guy exists.
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>>378454559
Its like a family guy joke about Chrono Trigger. At least it makes me laugh with how stupid it looks.
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>>378454383
>implying the shallow gameplay and shonen manga tier story were any good
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It's a 2D Pixel game so it doesn't age.
It's got excellent mechanics that don't feel dated.

It doesn't need a remake at all.
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>>378454351
For a fan-project it looked pretty damn great(also it wasn't meant to be a complete remake since that would be too much...it was meant to be just some sequences)

For an actual remake yeah it looked horrible but that's because Chrono Trigger has so much charm in 2D and all of that charm is gone in 3D
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>>378451287
>Triggeredfag on cue
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>>378454661
The gameplay was some of the best of the genre
The storytelling was very sophisticated and well done for the most part with very few plot-holes

You can go back to being a hipster on /vg/
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>>378454804
t. ACfag
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>>378454661
>says the animeposter
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>>378454293
There's something that I don't like about the graphics on the PS4 version and I can't put my finger on it.

It's like there is this soft glow over the whole image and it looks ugly as fuck. Could also be ambient occlusion that makes the characters look too plastic(?). Wind waker HD also had this problem but it also had clear hard distinction between light and shadow so it still looked ok even with all the effects.
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I didn't know about CT back in the original SNES days. When I first discovered it after it was re-released for PS1, I found it to be very much overrated. You can't do anything to customize your characters' skills, and all characters have restrictive equipment options. It just seems contradictory to enforce these restrictions upon a game that's otherwise very open-world.

No, I don't wish to see a remake. SE remakes are notoriously shitty anyway. You'd really be doing the game an injustice by having SE revive it in any shape, form or fashion.
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>>378454632
CT isn't "short". CT is godly paced that's what it is.
You experience more shit in 2 hours of CT than 20 hours of a lot of JRPG's out there
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>>378454632
Where are you even getting this stuff from. Flea joining the party? Is this your fantasy maybe?
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>>378454859
The gameplay is one problem that a remake would have to face

if they keep it, people will bitch it's too simple & lacks depth, if they change it, they ruin it
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>>378445346
Pretty much anybody who cares played the games 50 time alraedy. Thy'd need to add extra content everywhere.
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Square is only alive by name. SE only cares about final fantasy because it make em money and their enix games.

Everything else that square made pre merger is pretty much dead.
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>>378454939
You mean, like, bloom?
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>>378454949
>muh customization
Fucking idiot. That's what makes the gameplay so good. You had to think about which party member you were gonna use because of that
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>>378454949
>PS1 CT

congrats you played worst version

Yeah there's not too much customization early on but as time goes on you can get creative with accessories and team composition.

>>378454980
Yeah CT's pacing helped it a lot
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>>378454859
>The gameplay was some of the best of the genre
>attack attack attack or attack attack heal if it's a boss (also guard when he starts charging)

>The storytelling was very sophisticated and well done for the most part with very few plot-holes

wewe ladle
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>>378445346
I would only have a CT remake IF and only IF the DQ developers handle it.

They will be the only team to be able to modernise it but still keep the original charm of the game.
A full-on remake made by the main team is a bad idea. It will just get bloated.
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>>378454982
People datamined the fuck out of it back in the early 2000's along with the prototype
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>>378445346
>turning a 2D masterwork into a shit tier 3D abomination
No plox
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>>378455191

you haven't actually played CT have you?
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>>378454984
Fuck people
The gameplay is why CT has aged so well in the first goddamn place to begin with

It's simple and satisfying as all hell without ever getting too convoluted(see Fail Fantasy with it's enormous useless set of spells which you're never gonna use most of the time)
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>>378455209
Once again fuck off to /vg/ millennial
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Fuck remakes, Chrono Break when?
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>>378455209
The story was pretty good, especially with Zeal, but the character dialogue is cringy
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>>378455334
Exactly, the gameplay is deep, solid and really enjoyable. There is straight up no need to touch that game ever. The goal now is preservation not alteration.
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>>378455265
Can't find any information about this anywhere. I think you're just making up stuff you "wish" was there and could be put in.
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>>378445346
There was a 3D fan remake but Squeenix C&D'd it years ago
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>>378455239
Agreed also I wonder what Horii is going to do next now that DQ11 is completed, would be great if he did a non DQ game for once
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>>378455305
Yes I fucking have
The game seriously forces you to think about which party you're gonna use multiple times throughout the game(unless you grind and just spam your way through the game)

It's not like FF6 where everyone can learn the same skills and just blow the shit out of everything ez pz
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>>378455169
Yeah I guess but compared to other games I've seen it in, it's more toned down in intensity but at the same time it seems to cover the whole fucking screen.
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>>378455239
CT remake? No thanks
CT 2 I would only accept if it's the Original Dream Team, otherwise fuck off
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>>378455196
If more JRPG's had pacing as good as CT's this genre wouldn't have gone to shit. Part of why CT is so great is because it always feel like the game/world/story is constantly progressing and moving forward and you're constantly seeing new things...it never gets tedious and the game overall isn't that long if you count it in hours but it never feels short

Earthbound is similar in this regard I'd say...but to a lesser degree
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>>378453725
Most people who play a sequel do so simply because they want more of the same. Cross refused to be that, but also refused to just let Trigger go. Couple that with its own inherent flaws, like having the cast go hard on quantity instead of quality and needing hard plot dumps to convey any of the story that actually means anything.

I think ultimately it's just that Trigger dealt with things in a very simple and straightforward manner. Time travel is a notoriously tricky subject, but Trigger cuts off all the bullshit and focuses entirely on what matters. Cross bothers to actually address things that might come up due to time and dimension hopping, immediately gets lost in the woods, and loses a lot of people in the process. Trigger is simple almost to a fault, and Cross is often needlessly convoluted. This is immediately going to drop a lot of the audience, and the real shame is that it also doesn't work for people who are looking for a complicated story but haven't played Trigger, as Trigger's story is still vital to unraveling the mess. Cross doesn't tell its own story particularly well, doesn't fuse it and Trigger's story together very well, and the result is kind of an ambitious mess. There's a lot in it to like, and a lot to absolutely hate, and people weren't really looking for that coming from a previous game that accomplishes everything that it wants to do almost without fault.
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>people saying Schala or Flea were gonna be playable

Only other planned playable character was Gaspar.
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>>378450953
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>Crono Trigger
>Modern S-E
>Unreal(garbage) Engine
>New Dream Team: Nomura/Shimomura/Hashimoto

OH GOD NO
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>>378455731
>The game seriously forces you to think about which party you're gonna use multiple times throughout the game


Hahaha were you like 5 when you played it or something and couldn't figure out you have to heal occasionally? The game was easy as fuck
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Do you really trust modern Square to do it justice? Especially when the little content they added to the DS port was terrible enough to actually bring the game down.
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>>378456461
I never said the game was hard(aside from endgame Black Omen dungeon which can get difficult unless you're overleveled)

The game still forces you to think on what's the best party combination at any given time. That is a fact you cannot refute
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>>378445346
Why would you Square-Enix to remake a classic...?
Are you this far removed from reality that you don't see how there are mostly just incompetent modern-shitters working there anymore? Or at least the ones that call the shots.

Just look at how they're rapeing FF7
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>>378456442
>Nomura worked on Chrono Trigger as a field graphic artist.

Not surprised. Worst part of the game. Got lost in the prehistoric forest maze a few times because of it.
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>>378456750

But it doesn't since it's easy as fuck and any party could beat the game
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>>378456442
>Unreal(garbage) Engine
What did he mean by this?
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Because by now they are aware that a bad handling of a beloved franchise damages the IP in the long run, and those very same IPs are the very last strings keeping them from crashing down (See: Capcom).

If they end up doing a shit game that doesn't sell, the newfags are angry because it's a shit game, the nostalgia fags are angry because it's not exactly how it was and the batshit crazy fans are angry because people will now have a bad thing to say about their perfect delusions.

Therefore the next "safe" remake/music show/teaser trailer/merchandise will be noticeably weakened... If you're a pimp and shit ton of people would pay only to take pictures of your hoe, would you ever want to have her fuck ? Think about it.
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>>378454632
>There is a reason CT is so short
Compared to what? Final Fantasy 6?
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>>378456750
It really doesn't. The only thing you have to think about is whether or not you have 1 healer. Then you're good to go.
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>>378455209
It has some of the most basic gameplay ever in jrpgs and I barely even played any. And people say it has one of the best in its genre. I always thought it was non-jrpg fans who said this but it seems like even jrpgfags are on the overrated beyond belief train as well.

I don't get it.
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>>378456861
He thinks an incredibly feature rich and efficient engine is somehow bad. The worst part about UE4 games isn't the engine, it's what the developers did (or didn't do) with it.
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>>378457015
>The only thing you have to think about is whether or not you have 1 healer.
Not that anon, but CT's battles definitely required more player input than the majority of Square's catalog. It wasn't 4d chess, but it was more complex than the usual formula.
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>>378456835
>Hurrdurr any party can beat the game so it doesn't force you to think about your party
Are you retarded? Yes it fucking does
It forces you to think on what's the most efficient party and what abilities you might need at certain times.

Do you need more healing for a certain boss who dishes out too much damage and is faster than your party? Then you use Frog and Marle
Do you need heavy hitters? You use Ayla and Robo
Magic all-rounder? Magus
etc.

In the Magus boss-fight for example there's many ways you can tackle it but depending on your party characters' levels you have to think of the most efficient party to beat him. Do you wanna play it safe and use Marle and Frog? Or do you wanna be risky and use Lucca and Robo for example?
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>>378456442
What's wrong with Shimomura and Hashimoto?
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>>378454389
Fuck I only realize now that second chapter is literally naruto.
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>>378456442
Pic related is being done in Unity
It's nothing to do with the engine you fucking retard
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>>378457552
Hashimoto is a terrible manager and Shimomura lost her touch a long time ago. Her stuff sounds very samey these days.
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>>378457495
Show up to a battle with no competent magic users and you're pretty much fucked.
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>>378457495
>any party can beat the fight
>game FORCES you to think because while any party works, you could have beat the fight in 20 attacks instead of 25
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>>378457019
Go back to playing Fallout 4 retard
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>>378455209
>The gameplay was some of the best of the genre
JRPGs back then never went much farther than attack, cast, items and Run. The emphasis was on the storytelling and the atmosphere.
For its time, Chrono Trigger did have one of the strongest gameplay where the battlefield changed in real time and where you could mix up spells and abilities for almost every combination of party members you could switch around at will.
The exploration aspect of the game was amazing with its different timelines and how they affected each other for discovering new side quests.

I do have a gripe when people say it is the best RPG of all times, but it definitely deserves respect for its merits.
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>>378457754
>Unity

Even more shit, like the unfinished game in your pic that's never coming out.
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>>378457841
>Balanced game play is a bad thing
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>>378457495
>using Magus
>ever
>>
SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH
FUCKING FAGGOTS WANTING REMAKE EVERYTHING
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SEQUELS UPON SEQUELS IN ALL MEDIUMS
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>>378457495
>Crono, Frog, Ayra.
>Credits.
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>>378457841
But you have a really hard time if you pick the wrong party. For example one of your character might be underleveled and gets easily one-shotted

It allows you to tackle the fight in many ways but each way has it's own backdraws.

With Marle and Frog you can heal more and you can have Frog wailing the Masamune at Magus lower his Magic Defense making the fight easier.

With Lucca and Robo...Robo doesn't have elemental weakness so that's one advantage in this fight but usually by that time Robo usually doesn't have the "heal all" spell since it requires like 400 tech points and neither does Lucca so when Magus pulls off his Geyser spell it's hard to counter it without healing spells and you end up using a ton of potions and wasting a lot of rounds
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>>378458101
Oh it's coming out you jaded fuck
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>>378458332

I want a remake of your post.
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>>378458351
Did you mean Game Over Screen?
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>>378458257
>not wanting the coolest party of Crono, Frog and Magus
How gay are you?


I know Magus is basically the Red Mage of CT but he's so fucking cool goddammit. Also I love his protect/barrier spells for later on in the game
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>>378458756
CLOSE THINE DAMNED ORIFICE
CURSED HOMOSEXUALS WANTING RECREATION OF EVERYTHING
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE CONTINUATIONS UPON CONTINUATIONS WITHIN EVERY MEDIUM
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>>378458836
Slurp Kiss all day. Volt tackle when required.
>>
Chrono Trigger gets a ton of points for some things that were revolutionary for the time. Something as simple as enemies animated on the screen, fighting taking place on the same map you walk around on, attacks hitting enemies differently based on positioning, dual/triple-techs, being able to choose between any character that has 100% ATB (letting you rush out heals), etc.

While it was one of the first JRPGs that actually felt like it was starting to improve the gameplay in meaningful ways, none of that really added to the difficulty. The only necessary strategy change was really recognizing when to leave a healer with 100% ATB so they could react immediately to large attacks. Even that probably could be swapped for just having whoever moved next throw out an item, but fuck using items.
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>>378459040
>Mouth closed
>(DLC 1) wanting remake everything
>That's why we should watch the upcoming series on AMC.

fixd.
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>>378453518
the game story pretty much stops in the third act with just irrelevant side-quests and then the end boss
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>>378445346
After FFVIIR and KH3
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>>378460253
>the game story pretty much stops in the third act
>with just irrelevant side-quests
Third acts bring about resolution to the story and it's subplots. Each "side-quest" was literally a resolution arc for its focal character focus with the final climax being Zeal/Lavos.
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>>378457898
Isn't Fallout 4 known for being simplistic as fuck? Shouldn't you play it?

Anyway I always thought FO3 was super overrated as well and look and how much the reputation has been tarnished now. It will happen with Trigger eventually.
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>>378459362
Wat

I think having actual enemies on the map is the only thing it did first. It came out in 95. They were already working on FFVI by then.
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>>378456750
I never once worried about that. Used the same party members the whole game.
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I liked Cross.

I don't care what /v/ says.
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>>378445346
All I want is new Chrono game announced alongside with CT and CC director's cut ports for current gen.
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>>378447461
But it ties into Chrono Cross more than the original! You like Cross, don't you you fucking pleb?
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>Chrono Trigger remake where you can ignore Marle and have twenty babies with Lucca never
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>>378461518
Ff6 released in 94 you twat
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>>378461518
FF6 is technically the first to let you pass turns to other characters, but the implementation was kind of dogshit. It was slow, and you had to cycle between active characters down the list one-by-one. Also compare animations in-battle for CT to FF6. Static sprites that shake, or characters basically just having animated arms to swing at the air. For a real laugh, FF6 didn't even have a run button when you're moving on the map until later ports. You had to equip an accessory to run.

Chrono Trigger is probably the first JRPG that really felt modern in its implementation, and did things you simply couldn't do on the NES.
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>>378461883
>She jumped through time for him and followed him when he wanted to rescue Marle.
>She pulled out terrorist attack just to rescue him from the prison.
>She brought people from different eras to AD 1000, just so king allow him and Marle to get married.

Was Chrono Trigger ending the greatest cucking story in history of video games?
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>>378462518
well shit that only makes it even more mind boggling

>>378463030
you know what it did? it streamlined and casualized it. it's the apple of the gaming world.
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>>378463245
But then FF7 didn't use many of CT's casualized features, but was still easy as fuck. FF6-7 and CT are the easiest JRPGs around, but also some of the best. Few play games of this style for difficulty.
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>>378447237
>marle using fire
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>>378463792
>People will be eternally triggered by that art
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>>378463245
All of Square's JRPGs are streamlined for casuals. With the exception of FF2.
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>>378464250
o rly
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Why do people want remakes instead of new good games? All it will do is disappoint you. You will always have that old game to play when you feel like. Why not have more new games instead?
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>>378463792
>>378464114
The art was from before the change in teh game though.

Be upset with the final modifications and balancing the game went through rather than the art.

Marle was supposed to be the fire user all along.
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>>378464572
people have no fucking imaginations
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>>378464827
I heard that wasn't the case though and that the artist, dbzman, was just confused.
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>>378457754
>L-l-look at this tech demo I still believe is a game despite it being delayed as many times as KH3!
>This proves my point!
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>>378464972
Well that's incorrect.
>>
I like /v/'s old JRPG threads. Do you?
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>>378465046
What are you even talking about?
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>>378465057
Source then
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>>378464572
FF7 remake is the first one I can remember that people really wanted and it started over a decade ago. Literally all people wanted was the same exact game with current (at the time) graphics.
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>>378458101
>unfinished game

What else would it be when it isn't out yet?

>that's never coming out

Why would it never come out?
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>>378461790
One day, anon, one day...
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>>378465226
Unfortunately they're going to get a totally different game with a vaguely similar story because that is what devs do; they are humans; they change.
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>>378445751
THIS
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>>378465187
Well there's of course the screenshot that the art is based on.

And the fact that Marle's design signals fre in every conceivable way, from her hair being flame colored, to her fiery temperment.

This is all the "proof" I have, however, and I think that since Toriyama was involved with designing the characters visually from the beginning, it's be difficult to imagine that he'd just be confused about such a central aspect.

You're free to believe whatever you want, though.
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>>378465384
>vaguely similar story
it looked exactly the fucking same to me
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>>378445346
Fuck that.
We don't need ANOTHER Chrono Trigger re-release.
Remake of Chrono Cross when? Where Guile is actually Magus like was intended?
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>>378466239
haha
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>>378464424
Okay, they have well over 100 games that are streamlined for casuals, with the exceptions being Famicon FF2 and Vagrant Story.
>>
>>378461745
It's okay. Soundtrack is amazing.
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>>378466861
Your mom is streamlined for casuals.
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>>378447461
>literally the ps1 version without load times + extra
>>
>people want modern Square to touch the Chrono series again
I mean sure 17 years ago I would have liked to see them continue it. But no, not with modern square. Maybe after 10 years when all the VII remake episodes are out we can get a good feel with how they do with a real remake. And I sure as hell don't want them doing a continuation of the franchise right now.

Only thing I hope is that Tokyo RPG Factory gets better. I am Setsuna was only missing more side quests throughout and multiple endings. It was an honest attempt at just making a RPG without trying to shove in all gimmicks and mechanisms for the sake of being "modern"
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Fuck Trigger. Give me a Cross sequel with Serge and Harley teaming up to go find Kid through time.
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>>378445346

There's no need for a Chrono Trigger remake. It's perfectly playable as is.
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>>378445346
I've been wanting a remake of Chrono Trigger for years!
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>>378445346
For what it's worth CT upscaled to 1080p looks alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYQIxeDqCz0&t=187s
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>>378459362
>Something as simple as enemies animated on the screen
It wasn't simple at the time and it isn't simple now
There's a lot of work that goes into that shit
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>>378461518
>actual enemies on the map
Earthbound
>>
>>378461883
You can ignore Marle in the original SNES version
The retarded wedding scenes added in the PSX version are non-canon
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>>378460253
Those side-quests were god-tier
Other games wish they had sidequests as good as that
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>>378465750
>chrono nigger
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>>378463245
>it actually made it good
>"it casualized it because it isn't dogshit anymore waaaaaah"
Fucking idiots
>>
>>378465046
Hardly comparable to KH3
This team is around 15 to 20 people compared to Square-Enix's massive team
>>
@378469695
at what point in time did I make it seem like I allow casuals to post in my direction
>>
>>378468028
Setsuna looked like a shitty phone game
Just hearing people compare that shovelware garbage to Chrono Trigger makes my blood boil
>>
>>378468917
>ZSNES
>>
>>378470051
I am Setsuna > Chrono Trigger
>>
>>378468105
>Actually giving a shit about Kid

If anything the entire point of Cross is that time travel is bad so why would they continue to fuck with it?
>>
Someone tell me what the FUCK happened to schala
>>
>>378445346
Chrono Cross needs a remake more than CT ever will.
>convoluted story needs loads of fixing, trimming, and rewriting so that it doesn't leave a bad taste in the mouths of CT fans
>update the shitty ps1 graphics to amazing tropical environments
>update the battle/elements system
>add more scenarios/plot significance to the cast members that aren't serge, kid, or glenn
>keep the soundtrack exactly the same
>>
>>378472129
>shitty ps1 graphics
Literally the best looking game of its time, hell, it looked better than most 3rd party Dreamcast games
>>
The thing is, everyone wants remakes of their old games.


The thing they dont want is a bad remake, which always happens.

Chrono trigger remake would be awesome as fuck, but only if it's well done
But guess what, it will never be well done.
If only videogame industry was like back in the day, where people put everything they had in just one game and hope it sells well instead of making half baked stuff and live from micro transactions, DLCs and shit.
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>>378472248
Nah. Chrono Cross looks great but best is extreme.

Be honest, the 2d of that era has aged great. Looking at just jrpgs Saga Frontier 2, Breath of Fire III and IV, and Suikoden 2 all look better.
>>
>>378472129
>update the shitty ps1 graphics
Personally I love ps1 graphics in general even though I know it looks the "worst" technically, even then Chrono Cross is a beautiful game.
>>
>>378472660
Chrono Cross looks better and comparing 2d to 3d is dumb, even 2d nes games hold up extremely well.
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post a better looking ps1 game
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>>378473513
See >>378472660
>>
>>378472248
>>378473150
>liking pre-rendered backgrounds and fumbling through them not knowing what is walkable and what isn't
>enjoying seeing your overdesigned cast members be pixelated blobs outside of the battle screen
If it's from before 2005 and 3D, it has aged like milk.
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>>378473653
I was being serious

>>378473875
>cast members be pixelated blobs outside of the battle screen
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>when an old game actually looks better than you remembered

wew it still holds up
>>
I tried the original once. It was not good. So it's good that it's dead to me.
>>
>>378445346
>Chrono Trigger
>Remake done by Current Square-Enix
>a new game after the disaster of that other game

How about fucking NO? Fuck off.
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>>378474014
Good 2d > Good 3d
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>>378465750
Eh that screen is good enough for me
>>
>>378475345
Indie-tier
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Remake when?
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>>378475345
Man I need to play that again
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>>378476035
Art style cohesion is something this image has 0 of
>>
>>378475916

Man, fuck off.
>>
>>378476604
post a better looking ps1 game then

and 2d is dumb as fuck to compare either way
>>
>>378475345
>>378476113
suikoden?
>>
>>378476869

Just fuck off.
>>
>>378445346
As much as I enjoy Chrono Trigger, I'd rather just get a new game in the series. It doesn't even have to be tied to the Trigger or Cross, just make an entirely new world and call it Chrono Whateverthefuck. Though if they did have to remake Chrono Trigger, then I'd at least expect them to remake Cross as well and bundle them together.
>>
>>378476869
Fine, Megaman Legends 2.
>>378476946
Yes.
>>
>>378476035
Can anyone convince me this isn't a terrible game?

I had HUGE childhood nostalgia for it, but replaying it made turned me 180. It has some memorable characters, songs, and battles, but the RPG mechanics are basic as fuck. Right down to item upgrades and level design, everything is so shallow.
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>>378450313
I never cared about this, but after getting intense flashbacks to the first time i played one of my favorite RPGs DQVIII for the first time, i can't help but be sad.
>>
>>378445346
and that would improve the gameplay how?
>>
>>378477298
It's more of it's charm that gets people. It's a pretty good beginner rpg which I think is how most played it.

I always thought it looked ugly though. The prerendered sprites look pretty ugly in my opinion.
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>>378476965
>r*dditspacing

>>378477279
>Megaman Legends 2.
Oh please with that zoomed in picture that doesn't even show the field and cel-shading. You are just looking to find any game than CC at this point whether you believe it or not.
>>
>>378475345
at least post something ACTUALLY well animated, like metal slug.
>>
>>378477279
bullshit comparison. different artstyles. CC was way more ambitious.
>>
>>378477298

no, it's shit. like all mario games.

except golf for gbc.
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>>378477613
Nah. Crono Cross is beautiful, just maybe not the best looking game. At this point I'm more just interested in your replies. You sound like a major fanboy for CC.

I can post some CC gifs if you like. Though I would like if you admitted you are biased as fuck.
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>>378450953
Get a load of this fag
>>
>>378477279
really hurts everytime i see this game
fuck Capcom eternally
>>
>>378477787
It still looks way worse, he purposely chose an image that didn't show what the whole thing looks like.

>>378477915
>I can post some CC gifs if you like. Though I would like if you admitted you are biased as fuck.
lmao when I first saw this gif I was gonna concede that this might look better and didn't realize it was Chrono Cross until you said it. Lame ass cop-out response though. You're more likely biased against it with your lame comparisons that aren't even remotely better looking and also stylistically way different.
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>>378478140
Nah, never played it.
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>>378447461
Nigger, it has everything the ps1 version (without the shitty loading time) plus extra content.
>>
Why do you faggots always get mad when a game is getting remade, and then whine and call a developer shit when they aren't remaking games?
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No, fuck that, JUST BRING DQXI TO THE WEST!
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>>378478839

Just learn niponese my dude.
>>
>>378445346
>remake when?
Fuck off. I'd rather have a new game. You don't need to have everything you've ever played given a new paint job every ten years.
>>
>>378445346
is that a mod or DQH 1????
>>
>Sony E3
>DQ11 North American release date announced
>Kaz enters stage
>Ladies and gentleman please welcome legendary mangaka and game designers Akira Toriyama, Yuji Horii and Hironobu Sakaguchi
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