Is stormblood gonna make you resub? Final fantasy XIV thread

No new heal class, no sub.

ook despite being against p2w jump potions, i will stay subbed, my friends beg me to

>>378430964
>p2w
>jump potion
I don't like jump potions but they're in no way pay2win lmao.

List of things to prep before stormblood launch?

Capping all currencies is one thing, as is stocking up 16 leves to turn in for a mil+ xp right off the bat - but is there anything else I'm missing?

>>378430964
Not again please, don't answer guys

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>>378430964

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>>378431058
Anima for all jobs.

>>378431058
>stocking up 16 leves to turn in for a mil+ xp right off the bat

Pretty sure this doesn't work. Leves have to be turned in on the job you completed them on, so you can't level SAM/RDM up that way, and <50 Leves from ARR had their exp throttled once you got to 50 so that you got next to nothing from them once HW launched.

>SMN with only 2 DOTs
It'll make me unsub.

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>get FFXIV to play with a friend
>I think it's a pretty meh game but I bear with it so I can play with him
>get fucking bored of this shit after finishing Heavensward's content
>I'm glad this is over.jpg
>my RP-loving friend resubs because he wanted to play dress-up with his online buddies
>he's now nagging me to buy Stormblood
Not today Satan. I'm not going through +100 hours of dodging AoEs and queues. I'm not dragging myself to one of those stupid fucking fake wedding your catboy-loving friends have payed for. I'm not going to spam emotes so a bunch of fucking idiots don't feel bad for being autistic fucks alone. Goddamit I hate this game.

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WROUGHT FROM THE ROCK THAT STANDS UPON OLD
WITH A HEART OF BLACK AND A STARE THAT IS COLD

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Git crackin' slaves.

>>378430708
Is that an in-game armor or just something the artist whipped up? It looks good.

>>378432003
><50 Leves from ARR had their exp throttled once you got to 50 so that you got next to nothing from them once HW launched.
Damn those japs give no quarter.

>>378432194
COLD ARE THE HANDS THAT GRASP AT YOUR SOUL

>no Dancer
>no Blue Mage
>no Beast Master
>no Chemist
>more tomestones
>2 dungeons per patch
>b-b-b-b-but we gave every class a new shiny meter bar

Yeah nah, I'll be skipping Heavensward 2

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Just a little bit more.

Just a little bit more.

>>378430708
No. I just don't really like how any of the jobs play at endgame. They made things a little better, but ultimately everyone boils down to spamming a repeatable rotation with only a few decisions to be made on the fly. Essentially I'm tired of all MMOs that think they should be played like Dance Dance Revolution. The fact that the term GCD is even a thing makes me want to vomit. Over the last five years I've spent more time on P99 and FFXI live than any current MMO, though I gave HW, WoD, and Legion a solid try.

I just hate themepark, nonstop button spam, everything is soloable outside of instances, everything worth actually doing is instanced MMO design.

>2.5 seconds global cooldown
>its like the devs want you to fall asleep while playing
>b-b-but it gets better at endgame
>it doesnt
fuck this shit

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>>378432782

Expansion will just be a glorified content patch. The leveling experience might be quite good and enjoyable, but after that it will be the same shit as always. You run the 2 same dungeons over and over again for 3-5 months to gear up, and after that time your gear will be obsolete and you need to run the 2 new dungeons over and over again to get better gear. Rinse and repeat.

>>378432782
>devs implement mechanics to force casting times on every ranged class
>melee classes will forever be slaves to buffs
ggwp no re

>>378432273

>Maining SAM
>Raid leader hates the MNK in our current static and is kicking him out for Stormblood
>Implying you Monk idiots are ever leaving the cuckshed

>>378433165
>raid leader is autistic
>get rekt mnk XD

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Post your face when the cross class/combat revamp was actually a revamp and not just deleting actions

>>378433261
>>378433165

>Have a monk in my static
>Has to be given all of the braindead mechanics because he can't be trusted to do any sort of thinking

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>>378431041

They're p2win to avoid wanting to kill yourself for all the content you have to go through.

I pity the son of a bitch who'd pick up AAR and have to level up to reach stormblood through all that MSQ filler. I don't even want to think about the AAR quests or I am going to get PTSD from all that filler arc.

Everyone bitches about the ala mhiggers but I remember the doman refugee arc.

>>378432481

Some friend of Yoshi's said in an interview they are glad to get SAM and RDM out of the way because it allows them to do alternative and more experimental class options. I'd think we'd have at least 3 more classes in XIV's life - I'd imagine at least one more expansion and then maybe another class added in patch like ninja.

>>378432003
I belive it works but it gives less exp if you complete the quest with a different class.
Also they will add 270 alex weapons for SAM/RDM i still need 4 tokens for that

>>378432996
This is another huge problem. There's no point to grinding out gear because it's just going to be shit and useless when the next patch hits. That and all gear is just stat vomit that creeps up bit by bit.

No more
>oh this piece of gear has HUGE stamina and a lot of cold resist but that's about it
>this piece of gear has pretty great overall stats but negative fire resist, I'd better not use it in this one area / boss
>this has great offensive stats and a bonus to double attack, should keep for when I'm not tanking
>this piece is complete shit but if I click it I can put up a trash buff to soak up a monster's dispel magic so my better buffs aren't taken
>this piece will summon bandages / food / teleport me to a particular spot, that's handy!

Or in XI, having different gear for different situations or gear swaps.

Having a bag or two full of cool toys was such a huge bit of the fun back in the day.

>Still have no idea whether to go SCH, SMN, RDM, MCH or BRD
Wasn't even really considering the last two given I'd need to do far more re-leveling but it seems they got unfucked

>>378433353
>Everyone bitches about the ala mhiggers but I remember the doman refugee arc
Yeah because Domans don't actively try to kill you for not dropping everything and going to save Ala Mhigo

>>378433312
>combat revamp
>we've added this shiny bar so you don't lose track of your stacks
>is this awesome? y/n

>>378433312
it's a good change
people who complain about the removal of the cross class are idiots
cross role is a lot better and brings more viable options
i do hope they keep the old cross class for classes though

>>378433426
gear swapping was the abuse of a mechanic that was never intended to be a mechanic.

I'm glad that's no longer a thing.

>>378433605
>gear swapping
Did we have that in 1.x? I know 11 had it.

Maybe?

I still don't know what class to play though

>>378433426

The sad thing is XI went back to sidegrades and different gear sets again but it never got back most of its players after the level cap raise.

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>>378430708
So I'm just starting out with FFXIV , as in I bought it last friday and have a level 20 character now.

Should I be building toward White Mage as my first healer? I was wanting to be one.

Why do people hate Mr. Happy but put up with Xeno? He rushes out guides and some of the shit he puts out is fucking awful. There are at least three "xeno methods" for 12s and people can't get their thumbs out of their asses and settle on anything solid. His videos also aren't optimal in the slightest, as an example in his guide he has the tank holding Alex north after Divine Judgement when he should be facing south to prevent a spin ala Zurvan.

I'll resub when devs stop pretending cutscenes are content in an MMO

>Hey guys we added movies about Hildibrand XD that's what you all love right?

>>378433727

I hate most of the guides people make for 14.
They all take 15 minutes to explain stuff that could be done in under a minute, and end up making it more confusing by dragging it out like that.

>>378433721
it's your choice
whm is the most straight forward healer which might be fun to you

>>378433713
a decent amount of people came back to run the final story arc, but once they were done with that, they stopped coming.

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>queue up for ex roulette as heals
>pld tank has a kinna weapon
>ohboyherewego.jpeg
>fucking RETARD CASTS STONESKIN ON HIMSELF BEFORE EACH PULL ON TOP OF MY ADLO

when will path of the damned be deleted?

>>378433353
I hate faggots like you. An MMO isn't just a race to level cap and endgame gear. It's a journey. You're supposed to take your time and enjoy all the content.

>>378433353
>implying XIV isn't gonna get at least 3-4 more expansions like XI

>>378433837
I enjoy content that's enjoyable. The journey is shit and only prevents you from getting to parts that are fun. Sorry.

>>378433802
I like being a straightforward healer, but I hear this game is more focused on damaging as a healer, and healing for healers is never something that they have to worry about considering that most heal classes have more than enough healing options on their own.

I heard AST was the best starting healer, followed by SCH.

>>378430861
They're removing stance dancing.

>>378433548

For me the Mhigger's arrogance is at least a plot device that brings me content and fighting and dungeons. The Domans were literally babysitting run around outside of waking sands and deal with whiny entitled refugees. I don't care that Griffith's bullshit is causing chaos and suffering for everyone else because that's an adventure. With the Domans way back in that patch it was just the epitome of the godawful Scions storytelling.

Doman refugees was blatant filler arc. It was long ago while Mhigger bullshit is recent, but it was so bad and uneventful I remember it a lot more than Sloppy-Griffith's shit-eating grin when he told Raubahn he killed the Sultana or doing a false flag operation.

>>378433454
Go RDM and style on fuckers.

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>>378433752

>tfw DRK will be useless in less than 3 weeks

>>378433312
The only jobs that actually got 'revamped' were BRD and MCH, and machinist frankly didn't need it so they're just getting dragged along for the ride thanks to bard

>>378433989
What are they replacing it with?
Are they just getting rid of Cleric stance altogether?

>>378433976
Ast starts at level 30 and you have to finish ARR content so no it's not a starting healer

>>378434094
healer damage is MND-based, and Cleric Stance gives a +MND boost.

>>378433976
it depends on what you're into.

Keep in mind the combat is getting revamped, but WHM has the best AOE burst dps of the healers, AST has good single-target damage with dots (plus the cards are nice), and SCH has the ability to be dpsing constantly and letting the fairy handle the brunt of the healing duties.

It's up to you to find out which one is the most fun. AST gives you an mp refresh option extremely early, so it can be a good first option for starting out healing. I personally stuck with WHM, and while it can be a bit boring early level (most of the classes are imo), once you get past 50 it gets much, much more fun to play

>>378433596
I think the idea of cross role skills is really good and so is decoupling them from DPS (not having anything like cross-class Raging Strikes/BfB/IR/etc, but also removing damage from Low Blow/Leg Sweep and the Silences).

But I really wish they would have accepted that certain skills are just mandatory 99% of the time and not had them eat up a cross-role slot. Tanks shouldn't have to spend their slots on Provoke and Rampart, Healers shouldn't have to use them on Protect and an MP restore, etc.

Still a good change overall, but I hope they don't plop it into the game and refuse to revisit it for another four years. Haha, this is the FFXIV team, of course that's what's going to happen.

>>378434094
It's now a ghetto raging strikes

>>378432003
I'm using it for my main job, don't really care for rdm/sam until later. Even if the xp is neutered relative to 61-70 xp caps, its still free xp - takes like 10 seconds to turn them all in.

>>378433837

What >>378433916 said you uppity nigger. So much of the MSQ prior to heavensward was long, arduous and drawn out nonsense whose idea of plot and storytelling was to make you constantly have to run back to waking sands to get a pointless update from boob-window blonde before having to go across the world to talk to a single NPC and then immediately have to go back to waking sands.

Heavensward's story involving Ishgard was fantastic. But whenever it veers back to the scions it seems to rapidly turn to shit. I'm hoping these warriors of darkness get dealt with quickly so I can get to Ilberd-Griffith's shenanigans.

>>378433851

Here's hoping. I may not agree with all the changes they do as I have to see what the combat changes are but I do like their willingness to shake things up and try something new. Kind of at the foundation of the game since it was so bad they had to remake it.

>>378433837
>>378433916
This guy hit the nail. FFXIV's worldbuilding and RPG elements are very poor and expand at a snail's pace. Endgame should be the fun part but the devs cap gear progression so they don't have to pour effort into creating entertaining content

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Only 2 more days...

>>378434094
cleric stance is now a cross-role ability. It gives you 5% damage up for 15 seconds, on a 60sec cooldown.

In other words, it's shit.

>>378434013
> dont say nuffing that could hurt sales

go to bed shillu-kun

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I saw the paladin changes
is it good now bro's, can I be a fucking viable sword and board hero yet

>>378433837
An MMO is a bit of a race, though. Because what's the point of playing an MMO if you're doing it by yourself? If everyone is at end-game, wouldn't you want to reach end-game so you can play the massively multiplayer game with other people?

>>378433998
Fair enough

>>378434254
TO WHAT

>>378434264
>on a 60sec cooldown.
Isn't it 90?

>>378434001
More looking for the most interesting gameplay but I guess it'll be a while until I'd have any idea based on people actually playing the jobs

>>378434264
90 second cooldown

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>They removed stance dancing for healers
>tfw you only need to DPS 15seconds every 2min now
Healers can actually go back to healing now

>>378433916
>>378434251
>t.old wow elite players crying for more wow raids because they drilled thru all content in one day

>>378434274
you're definitely at least on par with the other tanks now, but with the buffs they got also, you're probably still gonna be chilling in the cuck shed

>>378434345
>healing nonexistent damage
Do 0 dps and you're out of my dungeon

>>378434287
I like seeing all the other people doing stuff like in the cities.

>>378434271
majority of people like the cutscene and the story, you can complain about much other shit that's don't depend on a person's tastes

>>378434264
Oh, well that fucking sucks. Does that mean investing points into mind is a retarded idea because you can't swap mind and int?

>>378434330
>>378434336
you're right, my bad. It's even more shit than I thought

>>378434345
>Healers can actually go back to healing now
Horseshit

>>378433605
>abuse of a mechanic
It was pretty great, honestly. Encouraged going out and finding more and more pieces of gear for specific purposes. So much gear would have been complete trash as full-time wear, but was fucking awesome for a swap piece. Now that you don't even need any addons to stop the blinking, it's even better.
>>378433713
I think that's acceptable for a game that's essentially Done though.

>>378434345
You'll still do more damage after the patch than you would deal without Cleric Stance now. DPS or get kicked, lazy healer.

>>378434345
>healers can actually go back to healing now
heal what?

>>378434414
Damage scales with mind now. They basically made it so you don't have to stance dance to do dps

>>378434414
Healer damage scales off Mind now.

>>378434397
>majority
Majority of XIV players can barely hold a controller in their hands, who cares about disabled autists? Why do you personally care about SE's bottom line? Surely you're not getting paid for shitposting on /v/?

>>378433820
Don't bully him, being a bootleg WHM is the only way a PLD can have fun in this game until 4.0.

>>378430708
No

It's just another shitty theme park mmo

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>>378434345
Get out.

>>378430708
No. Looks like more of the same. Game is a waste of time.

Im gonna replay the series in mednafen and focus on other things. Mmos are a waste dont do it kids

please make clerics 50% more damage
i'm serious about it, it's not a bad idea either

>>378430861
But that was one of the most fun parts about healing in FFXIV.

So should I use a catch-up potion if I'm just starting out, or not?

>>378432358
ironworks maiming/striking gear

>>378434421
I'm still holding out hope that there's going to be a way to refresh/extend it indefinitely.

>>378434345
fuck you and people who think like you. This game is designed for healers to contribute to dps. The healing requirement in dungeons is nowhere near the place where you need to devote 100% of your time to healing.

git gud and contribute, or every group will kick you out

>>378434367
Solid argument my dude, a literal ad hominem. Upvoted ;). Too bad I haven't played WoW.

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>>378434372
well when life gives you lemons

>>378434345
No. Now they have no excuse not to be dpsing

>>378434274
You're better than DRK now. Still nowhere near WAR's level.

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>"I don't dps I am the healer."

>>378434001
Speaking of RDMs, don't they have to start battle with a 5 second cast spell when synched to low levels at least?

>>378434571
I've never DPS'd once as a healer and I've never been kicked. I even have over 500 commends.

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>>378434664
>"I don't dps I am the healer."
>It's Palace of the Dead

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Honestly I would have been fine with stance dancing if it was an off gc skill with a 2 sec CD
But fuck, I can't count the times I thought I deactivated but didn't, and the time I thought I didn't deactivate it but I did, hence reactivating it and fucking my heal up
Better not have the slightest bit of lag or you're ruined
I'm glad it is gone desu

>>378434621
i was only half joking. being able to block magic attacks makes you all so much more viable. While I may take issue with the abilities we end up getting and how viable they will end up being in end-game content, PLD got a massive buff and should be fine in the beginning.

DRK on the other hand...

>>378434019
>He doesn't realize the reason DRK was nearly absent from the live letter was to give the other tanks a week of hope that they'd be viable

Two years of DRK/DRK only, motherfucker

>>378434728
what world/server?

>>378434728
whilst I, who do all the time, have around 965

>>378434723
Start fights with Swiftcast.

>POTD 180+ is harder than the current raid tier

I'm legitimately having more fun with this than I did with Creator.

>>378434772
DRK was absent because they wanted to charge for preorders before showing DRK players how bad their job is going to be.

>>378434872
this desu

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>>378430708
Aranea DRG armor when?

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>tfw gone back to big fishing while waiting for SB to drop

God damn fishing truly is the real end game. Fuck Feast of Famine.

>>378434848
glad you found a good team. I couldn't find a good one, and the higher POTD floors sucked shit because of it

>>378432812
Might as well post the impulse drive at level 8 where it's literally heavy thrust -> impulse drive x4. FOR FUCKING 18 LEVELS

>>378432358
Honestly looks like the artist screenshotted their character and just traced over it, whatever the case, it looks good though

>>378434480
>who cares about disabled autist
SE, because they are the ones paying the sub every month to glamour and follow the story

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>>378434915
When FFXV Complete Edition launches so XIV can have a crossover event to help advertise it.

>>378434561
you're going to end up buying 2 potions if you want to catch up. a level boost and a main story boost. it will cost you about $50 for both. if you're willing to drop that much money on a game ontop of expansion packs then go for it.

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>>378434345
>healer decides to be a fucking lazy cunt so i pull 2-4 packs of mobs at once
>"we don't have any cc can you not pull so much?"
>agree to pull less if he switches to cleric stance and does damage
>says nothing and continues to not do damage
>mfw kick him at the final boss room and replace him with fc buddy instantly

Is it still gonna have ability bloat and that awful GCD on everything in combat?

>>378434947
>Elezen always looks good and beautiful in fanart
>ingame they look horrendous and ugly as hell
Why could they've not just made a cute elf race?

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>>378434749
>>378434641
I KISS u both for telling me truths, shame for the big sword boy but as long as I can have sword and board tank and sword dps I am GOOD for a resub

>>378435053

Okay I just read up a bit on Jump potions because I honestly don't keep up with what the chinks are doing.

Isn't this a miserable idea because it will create hoards of people who have no fucking clue how to play their classes? It just gives them the prerequisites with no questions asked. Nothing about having to learn how the character plays or anything.

Has any other MMO done this, how has it worked?

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>>378435110
You can make great Elezen in-game famalam. But yeah, most of the ones you see people playing as look terrible.

Nah, grinding through the story in order to get to the next expansion got old while getting to Heavensward.

>>378434915
never. Male DRGs would complain

>>378434251

I think the worldbuilding outside of the ascians and usual presentation of primals is pretty good. Like I mentioned before I couldn't get enough of the Ishgard Heavensward arc (and even the Ishgard pre Heavensward stuff in Coerthas was fun). The minute it goes to the Ascians and Warriors of Darkness again and it starts to sound like the usual uninspiring JRPG trash. Yes I know the evil church of the Ishgardians is JRPg staple but Ishgard felt a bit more like a fun fantasy JRPG while Warriors of darkness and light and evil cackling just-as-planned cultists is more high falooting less classical fantasy JRPG to me.

Even if there was Garlean saturation in the MSQ of the original AAR story at least they were pretty neat villains compared to the fucking Ascians. Jesus I wish Thordan had killed all of them and not just lahabrayeahs.

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>>378435110
What are you implying

>>378435150
>Isn't this a miserable idea because it will create hoards of people who have no fucking clue how to play their classes? It just gives them the prerequisites with no questions asked. Nothing about having to learn how the character plays or anything.

Trust me, the jump potion won't make any diffference

>>378434872
Keep dreaming. Those tickly little Berserk Fell Cleaves are gonna need three GCDs to make up for just one DRK cleave.

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>be me
>be an unemployed 30 year old tranny
>take my daily dose of estrogen thinking it will allow me to have children and make my weiner fall off
>see a new yoshi post
>he confirms jump potions are a thing now
>realize all my hard earned job leveling i spent months on will become trivial if you pay
>i cannot allow it
>go to /v/ despite being univerally disliked there because i got banned from the official forum and reddit
>see people actually have a different opinion than mine
>i cannot allow it
>begin making strawman and ad hominem arguments, hypotetical what if scenarios trying to win them over
>it doesn't work
>they ask me why i care and if i will stay subbed
>explain them i care the most and my friends love me so much i will keep playing and pay for the game despite hating it for over 3 years since i attacked the mogstation
>they call me out
>has to be GAF, they all hate my guts
>anonymously shitpost about them to win my arguments
>it still doesn't work
>now they even compare me to other drones only because i pay the same as them despite hating this game
>take more pills to calm down but i can't really argue that
>i will just pretend they said something else
>they don't buy it
>that's it, i will compare oranges with apples telling them it affects me the same
>those fuckers still don't buy it
>i will just go back to shitposting and falseflagging while pretending to be retarded

>>378435124
>lala
I regret everything

>>378434732
That's pure fucking cancer. Healers are kings in potd, especially WHM. I would immediately kick a healer that's just healing because they're contributing next to nothing. Rather just have a braindead 100 dps mnk that that point

>>378430708
resub so I CANT PLAY PUGILIST?

LOL

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>>378435110
>implying

lrn2character creator

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>>378435124
this potato makes things to my weenus

>WAR babies not realizing they are completely neutered

This is going to be fun

>>378435253
>>378435197
Thanks for proving my point.

>>378435189
Based Yoshi would tell them to buy a fucking fantasia.

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>>378432173
you sure love his dick if you did all that for him.

>>378435302
nigga u gay

>>378435150
it's a good way for SE to make $50 extra smackems instead of people grinding for 8 hours or so

>>378435302
Ha, gay

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Is this some important dragon? I don't remember anyone mentioning chained-up frozen dragon.

>>378435212
but GAF loves trannies

>>378435253
dude it doesn't matter how cute you make the face, she's still a fucking slanderman-like abomination

>>378435307
>yfw he raises their price right when the armor set drops

>>378434287
If that's true then paying to get to end game faster is pay to win.

>>378435106
>ability bloat
No, they're fixing that in this expansion.
>GCD
That's never going away.

>>378433851
As long as it keeps pumping out a certain threshold of revenue, they'll keep making expansions for it


Like WoW, there's no reason to just.. stop, like ever, unless it isnt profitable anymore

And i know WoW will be alive for another 40 years if the playerbase wills it with their wallets

>>378435371
t. manlet

>>378435347
I think it's mentioned in sight seeing log.

>>378435371
Pretty much this. I wouldn't fuck a giraffe if it had a sexy human head on it.

>>378435150
People who care enough about the game will learn their classes. Even before leveling potions, you'd still see level 60 shitters not know how to play their class.

>>378435150
most brand new players aren't going to drop $80+ for a game they hardly know about. also if you use a boost everyone will know by your sprout icon next to your name and the fact that you have no side classes leveled up. upon using the boost you are immediately directed to the hall of novice to learn how to play your role.

>>378435431
I see. Will have to look it up then.

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>>378435380
Truly a visionary.

>>378435501
>Boost shaming
Okay, I'm behind that idea, at least.

>>378435405

Thanks, at least the bloat is dying off. I enjoy the game, the story is cheesy enough to keep me playing, but the combat is rough. It's like they looked at WoW's and figured out how to make that but more boring.

>>378435457
>>378435371
Fair enough. Enjoy your generic cats and lizards.

>want to play SB
>want to stay current with progression
>don't want to spend a literal part-time job's worth of time on it weekly
>already work 45 hours a week
>have other hobbies I still want to work on

How do you fuckers do it?

>>378435501
>>378435461
Person unsure about it, here.
What if I just used the story jump potion? Aren't I still underleveled and will have to clear all of the story anyway to get leveled? Or could I run any dungeon I want at that point.

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>>378435053

Come to think of it if you buy the MSQ boost would that not boost your level? It seems counter productive to let someone bypass the MSQ but leave them at level 1 if they bought it before they started the game. That would be counter productive when the MSQ is the best way of leveling up.

And it'd lead to shit like "You're level 5 and you used the potion but now you can't use any of these roulettes because you have to be level 50.

>>378435161

Pic was someone trying to make the smaller brown elf from Kuroinu Kedaji brown elf rape hentai.

>>378435693
Neethood

>>378435693
Do like an hour a day.

>>378434094
>What are they replacing it with?

Nothing, CS is just a damage CD now, stance dancing with it is just gone

>>378435646
I mean I love me some Roes and Highlanders man I'm just not a fan of fucking stick figure women. Sorry.

>>378435716
MSQ does not boost your level. It's productive because they basicially tell you to buy a level boost too.

>>378435150
WoW done the boost thing before but they handled it more poorly than FFXIV.
EVERYONE got the boost just for buying the latest expansion, so if you were a brand new player you could just buy Mists of Panderia and boost instantly to level 90. Secondly the training hall thing was tuned to be extremely lenient to the point where you can do all the wrong things for your role and still pass the tests as long as you made bronze ranking. Lastly it was almost impossible to tell a boosted level 90 player from a legit played level 90 player other than looking through their achievement history.

>>378435693
There comes a point where you don't need to spend copious amounts of time on the game every waking second of your free time. I take full advantage of the fact that sometimes there just isn't anything interesting to do, and instead of standing around in [max level hub city] I log off and go do other shit.

>>378434453
False. They nerfed healer damage.

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>>378435646
No thanks I'd rather enjoy my birb waifu

>>378435850
>healer damage now scales off mind
>that means they nerfed healer damage
Prove it.

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>Internal release and B4B will never be together again

>>378435850
They scale off MND now, my dude.

I had a dream just before I woke up about playing FFXIV.

>>378435734
That's a pipe dream for me, anon. Jealous of those who can do it
>>378435747
I suppose so, I just know I am going to want to level multiple job like usual and it'll fuck with all my progression. Time to buckle down on one job I guess.
There's no way in fuck I am keeping on with my WAR after those changes though.

>>378430708
Trialist (Gladiator lvl 18) here on Leviathan NA server. Did I picked the wrong server? The game seems pretty dead. Anyways, should/could I do hunts quests alone?

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>>378430708
Probably not. MMO's honest to god bore me now. I say this as someone who was a 1.0 beta player, FFXIV has nothing for me anymore that interests me, not even with new classes/expansions in general.

They'd have to do something genre changing to bring me back.

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Why the fuck does the event start in the evening

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>>378435110

They are not as cute as elves should be but I have learned to appreciate their ganglyness, it's kind of cute and endearing in an imperfection kind of way. Like yeah Miqo'te women look cute but they also look plastic fantastic moeblob perfect.

It would be nice if their proportions were fixed though, I always liked the elf approach XI and XIV went with being more paradoxically 'human' elves with being down to earth and even I think in XI a bit of the meathead race.

>>378435803

Jesus, I thought 25 was steep for the MSQ slip assuming it included a leveling up but 50 bucks for everything is fucking nickle and dime criminal.

>>378435991
It's 12pm on a Monday right now my man, but If you do want an overpopulated server I'd suggest Gilgamesh.

>>378435920
Losing the 10% buff from Cleric Stance is a nerf, and there's absolutely no way they'll let damage scale exactly the same when the risk from Cleric Stance is gone. Expect a 0.8-0.9 multiplier on healer damage.

>>378435696
Using a story jump marks all the MSQ flags as completed. But you will still be whatever level you are. You can't even access the Stormblood quests until you reach level 60. Thus meaning you have to buy a level boost too if you want to do the actual new expansion quests/dungeons.

>>378436019
>They'd have to do something genre changing to bring me back.
Someone post the Yoshida not a genius picture

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>>378435991
>the game seems pretty dead on a weekday morning
Also it's worth noting most people meet at limsa, idleshire or their own houses
if you started in gridania or ul'dah, yeah, it's dead

>>378436103
So what's the point of just buying one or the other? Shouldn't it just require you to buy both?

Un-nerf PGL
Un-nerf PGL

DONT MAKE ME DECLARE WAR YOSHI P

I WILL DECLARE WAR ON YOU

>>378435920
Cleric Stance gave you a 10% buff, 100% of the time you were doing DPS.

It now gives you a 5% buff, 15 seconds out of every 90 seconds.

It's a 10% nerf to healer DPS for 75 seconds, followed by a 5% nerf to healer DPS for 15 seconds.

(And no, it's still a nerf if potencies go up a little bit, because potencies would have gone up from level 60 to level 70 regardless.)

>>378436054
>but 50 bucks for everything is fucking nickle and dime criminal.
the point of it being expensive is so new players don't use it casually and veteran people don't exploit it (aka getting permabanned for harassment, then buying a boost+everything to get back into the endgame)

>>378435920
>>378435967
losing dots because of merge will reduce your dps, on top of the lack of 10% clerci bonus

>>378435991
Low level shit, especially out in the world, is pretty dead. There's not enough content out there to sustain leveling every job, and a lot of people have exhausted that already. Plus a lot of them just level through Palace of the Dead now.

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>>378436054
In a game where half the races look like children or teenagers I appreciate the more adult look you can get with Elezen.

>>378436054
I really want to like elezen, but their necks are just too long and their proportions could be so much better.
They also don't have really any good faces, so if I'd make an Elezen I would be "ok" with it, be not really love it.

>>378435991
Conjurer level 16 on Leviathan.
I'm thinking of swapping servers, myself. I haven't met anyone, despite the server statistics claiming that it should be full. The closest I've had to party interaction has been FATE quests.

There are apparently a lot of people from /v/ on Leviathan, but none of them have given me their names or told me where I should go or what FC I should join.

>>378436232
>on top of the lack of 10% clerci bonus
Did you miss the part where I said WITHOUT Cleric Stance?

As in
Current Cleric Stance > 4.0 > current non-Cleric Stance

>>378436157
some people want to level boost to 50 or 60 to catch up with their friends but still enjoy the MSQ cutscenes and dialogue.
some people want to skip all MSQ cutscenes and filler but still go through all the <lvl60 content.
you have the option to buy both if you want to skip directly to stormblood

>>378435150
On the plus side, it will populate higher-level areas and Diadem with Chinese bots.

>>378436284
>ABLOOBLOO IM A BIG BABBY
THEN GTFO MY SERVER YOU C U N T

>>378436259
I wish they would let us have kids one day.

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>>378436259

>And then the main Elezen storytelling NPC is a fuckboy who canonically is confused with his sister.

ehehehe. But yeah that's a good point.

My only sadness is how rarer Elezen are because of the Miqo'te. It's like how in Wildstar there were few Mordesh girls but a billion Aurin

>>378436094
>>378436176
>>378436232
I'm not sure why you're all pretending you know how damage is going to scale off MND considering it never has before but okay. 10% loss from cleric stance literally means nothing at the moment.

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Yeh

Also repostan challenge, pick the ugliest face of each race and try to do something appealing with it.

>>378436345
Then what the fuck do you want me to do, asshat? I was told Leviathan had a ton of people playing on it, but there's fucking no one. Just random assortments of people and their circles of friends. There's not even a /v/ FC or anyone in an FC that would be willing to accept a new member.

I'm not going to sink a month on a fucking server that I'm going to end up transferring from because I know no one on the server. You either put up and tell me where everyone is or I'm moving.

>>378436474
that's impossible

>>378436475
how about you quit the game so no one has to deal with your shitty whining. go to reddit if you want a hugbox

>>378436475
>some random noob threatening to switch servers
Toppest kek

I'm still a bit upset that the new worlds on EU open up at the start of SB and not before.
There will be SOOOO many issues and problems you won't be able to transfer or play on the servers if you try and make a transfer.

>>378436475
It's not any different on the higher pop servers, my dude. We're weeks out from a new expansion, everybody is idling in the same places doing the same shit.

Read >>378436240
If you're expecting to see people running around all willy-nilly leveling new jobs, I'm sorry to say that it's just not the case for a lot of people anymore.

Why don't you put out your name if you want somebody to talk to you in-game.

>>378436590
>>378436620
Then you and the rest of the fagpack shouldn't have told me to roll on Leviathan a few days ago.
kys.

>>378436660
>Why don't you put out your name if you want somebody to talk to you in-game.
Well I'm sure as fuck not putting it in this thread, now. It appears to have drawn all the vindictive neckbeards like flies to a pile of shit.

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>>378435302
They should have used the HQ FFXI models as the base instead of the ingame ones. The proportions vs their neck length was nowhere near as bad

https://youtu.be/I_2_PnZ91l0?t=208

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>>378436581
Believe in your power anon!

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>game is so bad they give players the option to pay to not have to play it

>>378436731
see
>>378436590

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Loli race when?

>>378436731
Nobody is going to hunt you down or bully you in-game, lol.

>>378436661
>implying /v/ is one person
Maybe you should wait until peak times on a server before throwing a fit. The majority of the playerbase is also off until SB because there is really fuckall to do right now. Quit bitching and hit 60 before June 20th or you'll just be left in the dust

>>378436784
see
>>378436661

>>378436801
Delete this immediately.

>>378436456
Yeah, guys, let's wait until we have all the information. We shouldn't just assume that it's going to scale off of Mind the exact same way that it currently scales off of Int, just because it literally swaps our Int and Mind so that our Mind value is actually the thing that is being used to calculate damage, and just because the formula for damage off of Int and healing off of Mind are exactly the same thing, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions and guess that damage scaling off of Mind in Stormblood is going to work exactly the way that damage scales off of every main stat on every other class, except for tanks, where it scales exactly the same way off of Attack Power

I mean WE JUST DON'T KNOW, and there's no way to make a guess at these kinds of things!

By the way, should I chug this big jar of arsenic? I've got no way of knowing whether or not it's going to kill ME.

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Only got 8 levels in Monk and 15 in MCH to go, before all combat classes 60.

>>378436826
So let me get this straight: I'm supposed to either pay 100 for the jump potions or spend a month on a server that seemingly has no one playing on it, has no one willing to give the name of someone who is playing there, and where no FC exists that is willing to accept me. Just on the prospect of maybe finding someone down the line around June 20th when everyone comes back?
Please give me a better solution, because that isn't a solution at all. That's basically saying I should just expect to use dungeon finders and play solo for the rest of my time on Leviathan.

>>378436973
Can potatoes even birth other race children?

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>>378436419
>how rarer Elezen are because of the Miqo'te
No
Stop
I don't want to hear this bullshit excuse. It is not because of the cats and you know it very well.
I tried to roll an elezen, I really did. But in the end I had to fantasia to a highlander for 2 painful reasons. The first one being obviously the slender-man giraffe hybrid proportions, and the second one being the STIFF AS FUCK ANIMATIONS
Holy shit have you seen this dumbass running animation? It's not like I had a broomstick in the ass, it was a fucking greatsword holy shit
I will swap back to elezen in a heartbeat if SE ever fixes them
But it won't happen so fuck Yoshi

>>378436987
make a cross server party finder right now and I'll join it and tell you why you're a bitch. I can't post it here because of the comment limit.

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>>378436973
You have to give full source on this faggot.

>>378436987
Settle down Lamil Lalanzo.

>>378436973
I'd get pretty upset at the lack of Lalafell accessible furniture if I were a potato. Straight up discrimination.

>>378433605
Swapping was/is the single greatest feature XI had in terms of pure game mechanics. Even if it was not intended and requires an addon to really leverage, it is THE best solution that anyone has come up with so far for keeping old content relevant as the game ages.

>>378437042
>DoW
That's probably why you gave up on it.

>>378436973
What if boy lalas actually had a figure like that?
Instead they literally resemble tubers.

>>378436021
Event?

Now I remember why I know Dancing Edge is still in.

>>378437061
>I'm gonna really tell you off in the video game just you wait!!!! I'll show you why I'm a real internet tough guy!
Nah, I have a policy to not waste time with faggots. That's why I'm not real hot on spending a month on Leviathan.

>>378437121
I don't know who that is.
Either ways, if there are so many people playing there; why isn't there an FC?

>>378437042

Is the animation thing a male elezen problem?
The female ones are okay, especially compared to the animations for other female models like hyur and cats

>>378436801
ummm. lalafell?

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>>378435225
>Main WHM
>Instaqueues for days
>AoE DPS that surpasses some pure DPS classes
>Drowning in Comms
>Healing is actually engaging and fun

Watching AST get dicked up the ass with a Balance nerf will just make the expansion for me.

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>>378436801
Don't EVER post this again.

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>>378436474
this face is just unsalvageable

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>>378437042
>that hairstyle
>face 1 or 3, either of the two bad ones
>the skin color
>probably didn't go minimum height to fix the proportions
I found all your problems.

>>378437224
Make it rain event starts in like 2 hours for some reason.

>>378437279
good one anon, almost made me laugh

>>378437239
You don't want a /v/ centric group. Believe me, I've been down that road. Like, make some friends on here fine, but don't throw everybody here in a big melting pot. That's a mistake.

>>378437317
Is this actually going to happen or are we back in pipe dream land?

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>>378437239
I was going to invite you to the /v/ FC and give you a ton of advice and items to start you off in-game but now you're being a huge baby.

uninstall the game, we don't need more shitters like you stinking up parties.

>>378436778
ooga booga

>>378434732
everything dies before I can even hit it

>>378432596
I just leveled my first DoH class to 50 (CRP). Anything I should do besides going back and leveling all my other classes to 50 as well and finishing the moogle tribe quest up to the point that I can do dailies?

>>378437381
More like 10 hours

>>378436736

>Remember oogling mithra in the character creator all those years ago

>>378437042
I don't know the animation issue but I actually find that character to be pretty cute. Normally I dislike cornrows but the bangs look nice on her, and that outfit mitigates the giraffe neck.

But yeah I phrased it poorly they aren't less chosen because of Miqo'te, I just wish they had the kind of popular appeal as miqo'te because come flaws or not I love elves and I will until I die.

>>378437317
>He thinks AST will be needed when the only leak so far is a straigh buff

>>378437373
Let me try something with it

>>378437373
I like face 4

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>>378436973
>Lalafell
>Feet

>notice an increasing amount of ERP degenerates invading my server
>they all have full savage gear

Its not fair bros. Degenerates shouldn't be allowed to be carried.

>>378437345
I wish that DRK AF looked half as good in-game as it does in the concept art.

>>378437012
eggs

>>378437373
i like the anime bug

>>378437443
I've been in a few before. NFA on TERA was some of the most fun I've had in an MMORPG.
But it first has to require existing. The only ones I know of are on Gilga, and that's the /vg/ FC.

And again, I would be all for making friends on Leviathan, but the more I've searched the more I've come to the conclusion that there aren't as many people playing there, and is instead a big ruse.

>>378437451
Yeah, that /v/ FC on Leviathan that doesn't exist. Again, I have a policy against wasting time with faggots.

>saw couple of OF posts complaning about how big SAM's weapon crossguard is
>think it looks fine on lala
>tried out elezen in benchmark

Jesus.

>>378437601
Don't worry anon. The first tier of Omega will most likely be difficult as fuck and they won't have Savage shit again until three weeks from the second raid tier.

>>378437601
>grinding an alt
>get placed in random dungeon with 3 Balmung ERP degenerates

worst time of my life.

>aetherpool gear isn't high enough to enter level 91-100
Do not tell me I have to do all NINETY levels again.

>>378437373
The fucking billy mays beard, how does anyone use this

looks like a literal neckbeard

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>>378432173
>Friend bugs me to play XIV with him.
>Have to stay up all night to get on Diablos because that's where his other friends are.
>Have to start in Ul'Dah despite it not having the class I want and having already tested on that storypath beforehand.
>Meet up with him once for less than an hour.
>"I don't like it, whatever."

Motherfucker at least put in the two hours it takes to get into a dungeon while we piss around if you're gonna make me do that, holy shit.

>>378437750
In all seriousness, I've seen people pick that beard just because it reflects their RL selves.

>>378437742
Make another save slot and start from 50.

>>378437742
gee it's almost like potd is fucking horrible braindead garbage

>>378437601
>notice an increasing amount of ERP degenerates invading my server
Odin?

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>>378437373

What's wrong with this face? I think 2 and 3 are more ugo to be honest. They look bloated and derpy. 4 has some uncannyness to it but doesn't look that bad. 1 wouldn't be bad if not for the chin.

>>378437661
>TERA
again uninstall the game and go back to your fucking shithole.

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>>378437661
Anon, Levi is number 3 NA server.

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>>378437828
If it's so braindead why don't you have a floor 200 clear Anon?

>>378437601
Here's a little thing that might shock you: most raiders are erp idiots or gay. The ones that claim they don't, simply use an alt.

>>378433721
I tried the game out and went WHM. I loved the game but by the time I hit level 50 and started doing the quests to unlock expansiom I got bored and quit. I might come back with a level boosted character and I think you should probably hold off and do the same. You will get burned out doing all the filler quests.

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>>378437661
Please just transfer to Gilgamesh or something and stop wasting every decent Leviathan player's time, thx

>>378437848
Zodiark

>>378437859
4's problem is being too stylized like all the male faces. They need to soften up the eyes.

>>378437661
Leviathan is the largest of the med-pop servers. Everybody is just off doing fuck all right now because they're waiting for the expansion to drop. If you think it will be much different elsewhere, go create a character and run around the same zones for a while.

And there is a /v/ FC here.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/freecompany/9232379236109594332/

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>>378436973
>posting something like that without a source

>>378437859
4 is the best.

>>378437908
because i have been clearing a12s since early december every week before unlock, why do the worst this game has to offer?

>>378437750

If they aren't willing to give us new faces I'd just like to be able to switch up the facial accessories. A few fucking beards would make a world of difference for differentiating males and they could let you switch the tattoo/scales/markings for women.

>>378437859

#1's jaw is fucked
#2's is too pudgy
#3 is a bit down/morose but looks good.
#4 is I assume the most popular?

>>378437859
I actually like 2 the most, only problem is the lips but you can still make it work out fine.

>>378435693
You subscribe long enough to reach endgame. Then you quit until a month before the next expansion and do it all in one go.

>>378437493
Whatever you want to do, really. If you've unlocked churning mist and completed Aery already, yeah, you can start doing moogle side quests. For now maybe you can quick craft popular lumbers in your server for bucks. Won't be much, sure, but it'll be enough.

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>>378437950
>http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/freecompany/9232379236109594332/
I fucking hate the new look of the lodestone
Is there a way to set it so I keep the former theme?

>>378437872
>Anon, Levi is number 3 NA server.
I mean people playing there I can actually talk to.
>>378437931
>Transferring a level 16 character.
Nah
>>378437950
Great, maybe I'll tap someone and ask about it sometime.

>>378438003
Don't actually have a source, sorry bro

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>>378435110
>>378435161
>>378436273
>>378437534
>>378436273
HOW TO SAVE ELEZEN:
Allow half breeds to be made in character creation

>>378438096
There's a switch on the top that lets you toggle between white and black.

>>378438025
1 is actually most popular because it looks the most feminine and has the best horns.

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>>378437373

>>378437864
TERA in its prime was a way better game than FFXIV.

>>378438003
mushi024
that's the only page to it though

>>378438132
>midlander with knife ears and special snowflake eye color
no thanks

>>378438180
not him
but how the fuck did i never notice that

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>>378438223

So parry is going to become tenacity, and they said accuracy is becoming direct hit, but they also said direct hit is a DPS substat. So what about all the tank gear with accuracy, will it just become (more) useless? It would be weird if a bunch of the 60 and below tank gear was just one stat instead of two, it would make leveling a tank unfair.

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>>378437859
I've seen people number them different, depending on nationality, but is this the most used?

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Play BLM.

>>378438223
No, generic raen garbage with neckbeard. No.

>>378438238
your mom was way better in her prime too, it's a shame she got loose after having you.

>>378437950
>Mommy's good boys
This looks like a shithole.

>>378430708
>ping went from 120 to 340
>resubing

Nope, never. After 4 years, it's time to stop.

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>>378438180
holy shit thanks anon I'm so dumb

>>378438223
i dotn know how people willing use this alien bugface
shit looks so goddamn off

>>378437950
>Want to join
>Not sure If I should leave my FC to walk into what could be an FC filled with meme spouting retards

>>378438132
God that looks awful.

>>378438336
Why would I do that when I can play Fast Mage in a few weeks?

>>378438334
1 2
3 4

>>378437373
that looks okay tho

>>378438431
Anon, I know this is offtopic but can you tell me what it's like to use 4chan blind?

>>378438361
>>378438397
This is precisely why I did not join it.

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Why does the Maelstrom outfits look so much better than the other two?

>>378438343
>U-ur mum!
Again proving that joining a /v/ FC is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. This is the level of intelligence you can expect from shit-sucking retards.

>>378438098
I already spread the word to them that some shitter is going to ask about them.

>>378438334
31
42
based japan

>>378438568
This is some /vg/ tier shit. How about you go back there.

>>378438561
it's okay to be buttmad anon when you got no retort.

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>>378438496
>throws a tantrum for half the thread whining about being alone
>demands everybody to point him to the /v/ FC
>"oh gee I don't want to join it anymore"
Would only be more perfect if I had your name so I could BL you

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Is there a /v/ FC on Balmung?

>>378438669
I'm not that guy you sperg, I'm the one who linked the FC page.

>>378438568
>I TOLD MY FRIENDS ABOUT YOU!!!!! YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL! YOU'RE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST!

Pfftfppft.
I'll just wait a week, and you'll be fucking powerless to stop it. I know you probably think your elementary-school level gossiping is a really powerful tool, but it's not. Frankly I don't even care about joining it if it's going to contain babies such as yourself.

>>378438642
this is not even /vg/ tier shit, this is how mmo server communities are. you talk shit or act like shit, people will spread the word about you.

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>>378438557
Tree hugging caster isn't bad.

Flames have terrible aesthetic sense though.

Maelstrom just looks more like a naval uniform.

>>378438705
Why would you want to join it anyway? You already know it's just gonna be futa ERP and meme spouting/twitch chat in /fc. I guess if you're that stupid then maybe you'd fit in.

>>378438653
Not even the same guy, it's just you can't be older than middle school if you think a ur mum joke is clever

>>378438496
>>378438361
We could make our own FC

>>378438705
>balmung
lol

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>>378438705
You're walking a dangerous path, anon
I wouldn't continue further for the sake of my own sanity if I was you

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>joining a /v/ FC on a big server
Why the FUCK would you EVER do that? Stop being a degenerate.