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Do you like Aimbotcalvin?
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literally who
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>>378410262
one of the 'pro' OW players
he isn't as popular as many of the others
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Stop making shitty threads.
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>>378410571
I don't watch shit games. Overwatch is not competitive enough.
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>>378410572
>>378410619
cussing is just plain rude
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>>378410571
Overwatch is too dull and chaotic to watch. CS is more watchable as a FPS, and DOTA2 is better if you want some flashy teamfights.
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Why are there still constantly several overwatch threads up at all times? Have you not heard of /vg/? Overwatch is truly the mlp of videogames.
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He's clearly skilled, especially as Tracer, but he gets salty and tryhardish pretty much every single time at the end of each season.
He's not retarded as timtheFATman or MEEMMEEM, but at least he has the skill required to be a consistent player.
My favourite streamer is Kephrii, he's always chill and he's not a jerk when playing with other players, aka scrims,
subs custom games or whatever, where tim and other retards are plain faggots.

Especially tim, i hate that fat bastard.
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>>378410820
Yea I have gotten tired of the patented OW team fights. I haven't watched Counter-Strike since GO came out, I'll give it a shot again. I have watched a DOTA 2 segment but I had no idea what they were saying. I've never played a MOBA before
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>>378410196
he's alright

The real question i have is how anyone can watch TimTheTatMan. Dude is just average, and swears a lot. He's the male equivalent of a gamergrill
>raspy voice
>"cool" bro
>tilts all the time
>spouts memes
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>>378410196
Is that a video game? If not it doesn't belong on this board.
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>competitive overwatch
literally just uninstall.exe your sad existance, you underage fuck
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>>378410619
>is not competitive enough
It's not a scale, game is either competitive or not, OW is objectively competitive. You could say something like "it's not complex enough" or something
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>>378411103
>tilts all the time
>spouts memes
There you have it
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>>378411218
Sure that, then. Everything is competitive by your retarded definition.
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>>378411103
what does he play? I've never watched him before. Calvin's voice and tone makes him sound like a panicking goofy mong, and sometimes I find it really funny. People say his 'baby rage' is usually ironic
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>I watch other people play video games
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>>378410196

Him and Surefour are the only two OW streamers I like to watch.

The rest annoy the shit out of me
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>>378410196
Hes an unemployed fat ugly asian who is playing a shitty game while thinking that it is a sport.
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>>378411274
>retarded definition
What's retarded about that? If people comete in something it's competitive. People just tack some weird high quality labels on the definition
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>>378411103
>>378411273
>>378411342
Tim is a disgrace to the whole OW community, where MOONMOON is just a memespouter, Tim is actually a plat player rated GM who is extremely fucking annoying all the fucking time.
It's easy to realize this when you see how he loses every game he plays by himself to the point of getting deranked to master very easily until some other streamer duos with him and boosts him back to GM.
Fuck Tim.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOW YOU'RE REALLY GONNA SAY THAT
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>>378411342
McCree, Ana, 76, Zarya, and Tracer mostly

He had to default to ana alot because another popular, but much less talented streamer, Kephrii, was in danger of losing his top 500 rank so tried to stack with many other streamers to improve his chances of wins, and Calvin reluctantly went ana
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newbie here. what do i do when enemy deploys that fucking turret that kills me in 2 seconds?
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>>378411012
Of all the available esports atm I would probably advise getting into DOTA2. You don't even need to play with people in pubs, just familiarize yourself with heroes/abilities/mechanics and watch away. Definitely recommend it over SC/OW/CS/LoL/Hearthstone.

Downside: the matches can be long, and you will need to put some effort into learning all the shit. From Formula 1 and Bundesliga to Street Fighter V and speedrunning, Dota (and now DOTA2) remains the only thing I get back to besides chess.
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>>378411451
>less talented
>Kephrii
(You)
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>>378411430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIsc8ooXug
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>>378411420
Tim's pretty funny at times. Moon was good when he was getting started.
Guy's a genius when it comes to emotes though. Literally went from few subs to one of the most subscribed person on twitch thanks to moon2smug
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>>378411504
>Guess countered instantly as Widow
>"Guess i'll just keep going widow and hope people forget i'm here"
He's leagues better than me, a plat shitter, but Instalocking WM for every single match, in every single mode, and scratching your head over losing matches and begging other streamers and T500 to play with you, is definitely Tim tier signs of "you lost your skill"
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>>378411625
TWENTY FOUR NINETY NINE
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>>378411636
Kephrii is actually very good with Widow, but he knows very well than even if he's not exactly an one trick player, but more like a "hitscan main", his Widow works best when he's playing with other people that give him plenty of space for picks and ticks.
He's still a very good McCree and 76, but if he's playing with Gale or any other top500 streamer, you can be pretty sure he's going to play Widow, as he's godlike with that.
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>>378411151
I'll concede that I'm a very depressed person struggling with self-hate and a flat affect and have been becoming increasingly afraid to leave my yard

But your reply was very mean and hurtful
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>>378410196
jesus christ, d.va
put some pants on
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>2017
>casual trash turns the term 'competitive' into a meme
>/v/ praises overwatch and other mobagames for its microtransactions and casualization of the genre
>every new game that comes out is either a MOBA or an open world
>dlc cancer is rampant
>somehow all the people on this board think this is an acceptable practice all of a sudden
>no one plays or has discussions about actual video games, just the latest flavor of the month memes and le funni politics
so this is the so-called nu/v/ i've been warned about.
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>>378412072
Don't attach good images to your shitposting please
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>>378412072
heh, you're a funny guy
>game tries to go against the flow
>very hard, no dlc, complicated, high skill ceiling
>doesn't sell, goes f2p after a week, closes the servers after a month
time to move on, grandpa
this is the future you choose
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>being so pathetic that you unironically watch other people play hat simulator babby games

At least you don't watch hearthstone I guess.
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>>378412187
>overwatch
>hat simulator
??????????
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>>378412013
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>>378412187
>So out of the loop, thinks tf2 and OW memejokes are interchangeable

Oh anon, never stop being late to the party
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>>378412313
The only difference between tf2 and overwatch is that blizzdrones still have cum on the back of their throat
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>>378412380
le blizzdrones hehexd
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Why not just make this a D.Va thread already
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>>378412187
>grandpa
The funny thing is, I'm propably the same age or younger than you, have a deeper knowledge and most likely dominate you in every game I touch. It's called "having taste", and "playing games that require practice and actual skill", kiddo.
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>>378412434
>It's called "having taste", and "playing games that require practice and actual skill", kiddo.
>actually posting this in an overwatch thread

embarrassing
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>>378412380
Yes anon, good, you're almost here! You're almost in current year
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>>378410196
I see him show up in dspstanky's games.
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>>378412434
>i'm better in all you do save for quoting people on an himalayan buddhist mandala drawing board
:^)
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>>378410196
his voice annoys me, he's pretty good with hitscan though.
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>>378410965
Kephrii is such a baby. You can see him get tilted all the time. Plus, he's always ego boosting at lower ranks. Not to mention he stacked his way to his rank.
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>>378412695
>get tilted all the time
?????
But that's not true, anon.
Why are you telling lies about Brian?
>stacked his way to his rank
>implying this is a bad thing
eks dee, go back to your gold soloqueue, shitter.
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>>378410571
>>378410820
>>378410820
>>378410962
>>378411151
>>378412072
>>378412187
>>378412380
Will /v/ ever not be assblasted by OW's popularity?
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My problem isn't with it's popularity. I play it myself, lately daily.
That's why I go to /vg/ to talk about it, not make 4 of these awful threads on /v/ every day.
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>>378411420
>>378411103
>>378411625
Jesus christ, you people sure do pay some imbeciles playing shooters in public a lot of attention, don't you. I thought this was a fucking joke.
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>>378412434
post your bnet pussy lets 1v1
i'll 5-0 you easily, post itt to humiliate you, and the going back to masturbating to 2d women
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He's literally early era trick2g if he played ow instead of league.
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>>378412797
Are you joking right now? Watch someone like Seagull or Harbleu then tell me Keph isn't a whiny tim-tier personality.

It's embarrassing to watch him stack with pros because he's completely useless when he gets countered, and he gets carried.

And stacking to inflate rank at the end of the season when matchmaking is fucked. But I guess the ego-boost is what he needs because he knows he's not good enough to go pro, despite other one-tricks like stanky actually getting team offers.
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>>378410196
>>378412303
>>378412432
hoh my god
i love you so much d.va
i would do ANYTHING to have sex with you
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>>378413206
anything?
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>>378412867
I understand you are on your daily troll/fanboy duty, but what was so wrong about my esport post that got you so butthurt? I spent quite some time watching OW, it is objectively less suited to be a watchable esport; there have been numerous discussions over this. It doesn't make it a better or worse experience as a game. Blind butthurt will get you nowhere, anon, especially with this poor reading comprehension.
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>>378413206
Marry Anri Akita, apparently people think they look alike
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Only people worth watching right now are Gale and Seagull. Two streamers who are not constant memespouting manchildren.

Moon used to be entertaining, now he's just in it for the money.
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>>378413396
Seagull gets a bit boring tho. Maybe the scrims will be fun to watch because he actually talks in those.
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>>378413396
>moon
I actually subbed to him for a month with prime when he mentioned his mom. I'm a sucker for sob stories.
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>>378413191
>professional players under contracts are more professional than an actual streamer who is having fun
Oh wow, color me fucking surprised.
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>>378413396
I like the lucio guy. I catch his streams when I'm high and he's always so positive and sio fasts
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i don't know any overwatch streamers or professional players but i did enjoy that one guy saying nigger repeatedly on stream and loses his professional gaming job
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>>378413714
>stanky
Stanky is a plat.
Never forget that.
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>>378413396
>now he's just in it for the money
I don't get why people always look down on this. Streaming is his full time job, of course he streams for money
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>>378411486
Agreed. I stopped playing Dota back in 2015 simply because it became too exhausting but I still watch all the big tournaments that come up and keep up with the competitive scene like all the players.
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>>378413759
He was top 50 this season but fell to top 150. For solo-queue support one-trick that's pretty good.
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>>378410196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH10efX7Png
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>>378413759
I dont get it
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>>378413759
Really? That explains a lot
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>tfw regularly outaim and outskill pro players in both competitive play and also scrims with my team
All those years of playing Quake and CS 1.6 helps. Also it feels good when they tilt and go on and on about how they get paid so much more than me when I don't even make anything because I'm just in a team made up of friends.
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>>378412867
the moment it goes on sale and they can finally afford it with their allowance
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>>378413396
>>378413454
>>378413575
>>378413714
>>378413787
Holy fuck, talking about which guy who plays video game for a living is worth watching rather than video games itself. Twitch babys and people who grew up on let's play trash, why? What the fuck do you gain from watching others play video games.
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>>378410196
>no bulge
Disappointed.
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>>378414171
>Also it feels good when they tilt and go on and on about how they get paid so much more than me when I don't even make anything because I'm just in a team made up of friends.
That's a common human response, anon.
Apparently you're so good you're making 'em insecure about what they actually are.
Happens to everyone, anon.
On Overwatch is even more rampant because people are expecting anything below GM to be mouthbreathers, when the actual rating system is borked up.
Famous are the cases of many pro players not being worthy of their rank because of other bullshit, like how timthetatman isn't a gm and how Stanky got placed in plat the first time he played overwatch on PC.
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>>378413975
That was actually kind of funny
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Why are cute girls in mechs such a good trope?
It never gets old
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>>378414310
Playing and watching someone playing are two different things altogether.
You'd get this, if you weren't a fat neckbeard virgin that always skipped P.E. in school and never practiced any kind of sport.
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>>378414331

Pretty sure most streamers that aren't pro players got boosted to high ranks and have managed to stay there because of luck and/or queueing with other, better players.
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>>378413787
It's one thing to try to make living out of streaming but it's something else to meme that annoying 24,99 sub shit every fucking time.
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>>378413975
BRAAAAAAAP
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>>378414310
>hey bro why are you two watching football and talking about it when you could go play it
>why are you talking about F1, just go drive faggot
>why are you watching that movie when you could be living your life moron
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>>378414318
what's your Kik? I'll send you dick pictures
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>>378413323
>I'm gonna take the time and effort to respond to a post that I deem to be trolling
>The troll is the butthurt one though
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>>378414417
Of course, tim is one of them.
If overwatch was a serious game where mechanical aim and actual skill were all that mattered instead of just using random bullshit mechanics like le press shift for hook line and sinker man you'd see a complete annihilation of the top 500 ladder, only a few very skilled players would be actually worthy to be there.
People like Cantus and the innumerable smurfs of calvin would just disappear.
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>>378414154
Stanky is top 500. When he switched from console to PC, his first ever placement in S2 was 2700 something.
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>>378414497
I don't know what that is. And why are you randomly offering that?
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>>378414567
>there are people right now who are better than our current top500 retards but they choose to not play comp or just do the 10 placement matches
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>>378414538
Literally this week Tim was stacking with Kephrii but his SR was so low that he had to play on a smurf in order to group together.
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>>378414415
Nice try actual fat neckbeard virgin who sat on his ass watching manchildren make a living playing games.
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>>378414331
It's more common than not. It happens most of the time when we're scrimming EnvyUs, Cloud9 and Selfless. There's more but we've recently played against these three teams and that's all I could think of. I'm not saying every member of those teams tilts, but some do it so much and so extreme that I'm starting to think if they have some mental illness.
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>>378414673
I saw and remember that.
Pathetic.
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>>378414587
I'm lonely and I like you
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>>378414664
Are you a moron?

>hurr the top of the ladder must be garbage because there could be some people that are better that don't play comp

You are retarded. Guess the F1 world champion isn't any good because there are good drivers that just don't drive F1.
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>>378414538
>If overwatch was a serious game where mechanical aim and actual skill were all that mattered instead of just using random bullshit mechanics like le press shift for hook line and sinker man you'd see a complete annihilation of the top 500 ladder, only a few very skilled players would be actually worthy to be there.

The new Quake is the closest thing we have to a more mechanically/skill-based game but it's kind of fucked how you have to pay to get more characters and then there's the abilities and such.
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>>378414698
You'd be impressed, anon.
Esports is a business akin to the WWE..
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>>378414664
Yeah, top 500 is a total joke. Most people off the street could beat those losers
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>>378414729
You don't know who I am.
R-right?
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>>378414489
>dodging the question
>making comparisons to make it seem like what you do isnt a waste of time compared to all the other shit
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>>378414468
Yeah it's fine to not like streamer because of the streamer, but I don't get not liking them because they get money out of it
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>watching streamers play multiplayer games
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>>378410196
he's a total fucking faggot

and by that I mean he's not smart... at all. and not funny. he's the stereotypical "west coast shut-in American Asian"

it's embarrassing
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>>378414784
Quake Champions is going nowhere, anon.
Most Quake enthusiasts are die-hard cave dwellers that never asked for anything new or casualization.
Their own little bubble of autism has been perduring for decades without anything tainting it from the outside world.
This new game is a very cool omage to the originals, but it will go nowhere as the most mischievous bastards of Quake will never leave the original games.
And since you're now actually forced to buy champions and learn the new "abilities", these two things are more than enough to literally make eveyr single quake pro vomit like there's no tomorrow.
Not a single current QuakeGod has approved or sponsored the new Quake.

I'm sorry anon.
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>>378414858
Because entertainment is entertainment, you dipshit.
There's a sort of pleasure to be derived from watching someone perform at the highest levels of their sport/craft. Be it an Olympic diver or a yo-yo magician.
Is this literally the first time this concept has been suggested to you? Let me introduce you to about 70 years of television.
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>>378414804
I mean, I guess. I just wish people would chill a bit more but there's a lot of money involved for a lot of nerds that used to live at home with their parents. I can kind of see why people take it so seriously, hell I'm pretty fucking poor myself but I try to manage my budget properly at least, but getting paid to play a game would be pretty sweet and allow me to live a more comfortable lifestyle.
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>>378414804
We need some feuds and storylines in esports.
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>>378414906
This is it, people growing up watching lets play video ecelebs and twitch are now browsing the board.
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>Watch a streamer
>Apparently in the Top 500
>Apparently also on a pro team
>Apparently well-liked by the "competitive" community
>Actually dogshit FPS mechanics and straight up bad aim compared to Counter-Strike and Quake players


I think his name was Mendokuse and I'm genuinely surprised. This is supposed to be the next big FPS E-Sport? I don't know about that when this guy had such shit skills.
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>>378414746
That wasn't what i said, anon, come on.
The current top500 ladder has an ungodly amount of retards that shouldn't be there, first of firsts is cantus and his group of retards.
And you can clearly see how Blizzard is out of touch with this problem as they simply forced players to actually stay in the top500 to get the sprays and icons instead of actually working for a fix for those bastards exploiting the matchmaking system and retards sixstacking against plats.
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It's pretty disstressing to see that much people unironically watching streamers.

I wish you could all fuck off from here.
Actually, threads about streamers and e-celebs should be a bannable offense, it has nothing to do with video game.
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>>378415183
Mechanical skill is dead, anon.
CSGO, Overwatch and Starcraft ruined it.
It's all about being smart now.
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>>378415183
Quake, no excuse.

But most Overwatch guys come from TF2, so they have weaker mechanics than CSGO pros.

Also, much less incentive in Overwatch as an esport causes the highest levels of talent to gravitate away. But CSGO and Overwatch play so differently that there's very little pro overlap anyway.
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>>378411151
This whole decade has so destroyed the concept of competitive gaming. Overwatch doesn't even seem all that bad compared to some of the games hitting their stride six or so years ago.
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Why is there no solo queue?

And why are smurf accounts allowed? They take up space on the Top 500 leaderboards.
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>>378410196
Why is D.va so sexy?
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>>378415326
>Why is there no solo queue?
?
What do you mean?
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>watching streamers with thousands of viewers
>not just going into a room where a nigga has 2-50 viewers and chillin

"watching people play video games" is a fucking shameful as it is, don't fucking embarrass yourself by watching someone with thousands of viewers pretending they're your "friend"

what the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>378415260
>It's all about being smart now.
I can understand that completely, but this guy wasn't even smart either. Kept rushing in as Roadhog trying to get hooks and failing miserably and then also dying like a little bitch. He also panick switched heroes a fuckton and could never settle on something that worked against the enemy team comp.

>>378415304
>Also, much less incentive in Overwatch as an esport causes the highest levels of talent to gravitate away
What do you mean?
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>>378415030
You need to understand that when you're defeating these groups of (((esports))) players, you're not defeating them, but the shareholders that give 'em money.
They get tilted because they realize that if some random bastards can defeat them so easily, then their jobs are at risk and they can easily be replaced.
The fear of losing your job is a constant one among all careers, anon.
Now, it wouldn't be a big deal in the esports scene if said scene was actually well structured and developed, but since it's just hot water and nothing else, that's when things like these can easily struck the nerve.
This happens even in real Sports, as players tilting isn't just something that happens to muh gaymers, but entering a soccer club team is way more harder than being able to click a mouse on a monitor faster than anyone else.
Again, it's quality over quantity.
I'd get pretty pissed as well if some random korean mongrel just got my spot because he got breastfeed with meth and milk.
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>>378415363
I think he wants a mode for people without a group only, mostly because a group of 6 friends will stomp 6 randoms 9/10 times I imagine
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>>378415326
I still ask myself this question.
It's bullshit, every other lolblizz game has separated queues with different brackets, 2v2, 3v3, 6v6 and so on, yet this is the only game where you're just forced to pool in against groups or stacks of other players.
Complete pure bullshit.
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>>378415260
What about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-FbSCjy6Jo
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>>378415552
Can't split the playerbase because queue times are long enough as it is. Not defending, just the logic they're probably using.
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>OWfags watch fuckers play their waifugame instead of playing
Weirdos.
>>378415379
I just put it in the background for commentary on some of these LPs.
If the chatting is good, why watch the gameplay?
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>>378413075
>>378413075
>posts semi-lewd picture of disgusting brown, strong independent muslim woman done in this horrible artstyle, who he propably considers his waifu and faps to on a regular basis while offerhin his gf to tyrone's dick
Sure, if you're willing to buy me your shitty little MOBA game, I will gladly wipe the floor with you.
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>>378415450
It's like the US and soccer. The best athletes in the US don't train for soccer, they train for the sports that will make them money, like basketball or baseball or football.

All the people with the best aim play CSGO. There's no money in being a pro Overwatch player, which is why almost every proteam has like 3-4 meme streamers on it.
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>>378415620
Then it's time for them to realize that comp was a failure, and judging by how they're still not releasing the partecipation stats for the average overwatch player i'd say 80% of the playerbase played comp only for one season or two to get the golden gun for their main and fucked off.
Now, will they be smart enough to understand that maybe they should fix the competitive mode instead of just adding more rewards to lure cretins in?
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>>378415681
>All the people with the best aim play CSGO. There's no money in being a pro Overwatch player, which is why almost every proteam has like 3-4 meme streamers on it.

There is however lots of Korean fangirl pussy if you manage to get popular enough and your team gets invited to the APEX tournament.
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>>378415605
That's exactly what i'm talking about.
Being smart > actual mechanical skill.
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>>378415469
When you put it that way it makes more sense to me. I'm wondering how the Overwatch League will work out for everyone involved but especially small teams like mine. Unless I get an offer from a bigger organization.
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>>378414841
Not yet...
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>>378415740
As if any korean fangirl will touch NA players after how Korea humiliated everyone
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>>378415351
designed to sell copies
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>>378415908
Kruise says he got a Korean girlfriend, and we all know how fucking ugly he is and how shit he is at the game. Then again we don't know how this girl looks like, if she even exists.
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>>378415653
>So afraid that he got called out and would get treated like a used cum rag he resorts to "lol i don't even own the game" and low tier cuck memes
Really hubbas bubba my bubble gum
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>>378415907
Sorry, I'm too shy for things like that.
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>>378415719
Not to mention more and more people are going to stop because they will realize how you can lose shit ton of rating in one night when it takes you forever to gain little or nothing.
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>>378416103
Just buy me the game then, asshole. 20$ shouldn't be too much to ask, you're not underage, are you?
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>>378410619
>he has not seen haksal and whoru clutch team wipes
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>>378415873
The Overwatch League was nothing but the feeble tentative of Activision to milk yet again the new fat cow from Blizzard.
It's useless, clunky and holds no business in a market that is already small and extremely fucking saturated.
Not a single fucking Esports team made any contracts with that abomination, and nobody is rightfully going to, as third party contracts net less money.
Think about it, why would the C9 ceo or the FaZe clan admin make contracts with that shit to get new players when they can just do their own business cheap and without third parties?
It's pure total bullshit.
Do yourself a favour, change game.
Unless you really want to push your and your group of fellas into the current esports scene, then you should just fuck off somewhere else, as you wont be happy when they bench\retire you on purpose because some retarded korean or ((((canadian))))
has taken your place on a game with no real skill ceiling.
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>>378415860
But this bug/interaction was known for a long time; nobody was exploiting that because it requires insane coordination and reaction.

Enlighten me anon, how come coordination&reaction are not included in
> actual mechanical skill.
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>>378415469
So why don't they develop actual practical skills or have backup plans incase they can't stay manchildren and make money playing games forever? Do people becoming Pro Overwatch players really not think their life over when they decided to go balls deep into wildly unsecure profession?
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>>378411274
everything is competitive though
thats the nature of competing
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>lose a game
>everyone trying to blame one another
>we just didnt have focused damage and trickled in
>"shut up plat, you're garbage" -shitty mercy
>queue up against them next match
>humiliate them and isolate them as Junkrat
>always have enough time to emote
>they leave game
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>>378416265
I could change games easily (I play CS every now and then) but the others probably wouldn't as they really love Overwatch. So I'd have to find new people to play with and such. I might do it.
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>>378416340
For the same reason Esports games are always the same, anon.
Comparing Quake to Mobas is like comparing Sharpshooting with Chess.
Two different kinds of skill.
Which one is the popular now, and why?
When you try to merge both, you have situations like Overwatch and the pro scene that surrounds it.
The ladder of mechanical skill is a very long one anon, games shouldn't be called esports in first place as there is little sport in this kind of stuff, and unless you want both of us to debate the meaning of skill with platitudes and semantics, i'd say we can both agree that both the coordination and reaction of Mobas and the precision and muscle memory of FPS games are two different kind of skills that shouldn't be mixed or merged for the sake of it, for it will eventually tilt in favour of one over the other.
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>>378416512
>obliterating the people you were teamed up with in a previous match
There is no better feeling.
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>>378412432
Make way for the new leet gamur, A.ri
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>>378416372
Because they're millennials.
We all are.
Naive, unexperienced and greedy, attracted to what is easy and cheap to do.
It's easier to learn how to play a game and try your best to be so good at it you can actually enter the business behind it, than actually learning how to play a proper sport have one out of 1000 in chance of entering a proper team and earn millions.
My brother, who is a gen X idiot, wanted to be a soccer player.
He sells hotdogs for a living now.
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>>378416265
have thought about going esports you play a fighting much less about getting sponsored more about just getting to event and your own individual skill vs your competitor

>>378416201
its 4:00 am where i live and its a public holiday so i have work off post your email, i'll buy you the game and mentally spirituality and partially physically spread your ass cheeks apart and tech you the pleasure of being cummed inside all day long
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>>378415646
I know.

But if you watch someone with thousands of viewers, it is essentially "thank you <guy!> Thank you <other guy!!>" and apparently that passes off for 'good commentary'
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>>378416554
Then it's up to you.
Is it really worth to try for the esports career?
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>>378416756
You get sponsors if you win, anon.
People are not going to pay you if you're an ass, that's not how it works.
And if you're suddenly out of date and there are better people than you, you're out.
Welcome to sports.
The only thing that's merely comparable to what you're saying is boxing, but that shit has been dead since the 90s, it's all about MMA\UFC now.
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>>378415260
>putting Overwatch on the same level of CS:GO and STARCRAFT for fucking christ's sake

Fuck you.
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>>378416807
I mean, not really. Personally I'd much rather be a streamer but I don't have the charisma or personality to become a popular one.
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>>378416961
CSGO is a RNG shitfest, Overwatch is a moba meets babby's first FPS and Starcraft is simply a korean button masher.
Three things that ruined what could have been a heaven of actual good esports.
I'm sorry but it's the truth.
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>>378416512
I love this picture

This girl is based. she captured the pose perfectly.
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>>378416961
>people STILL think Starcraft was a good RTS that required skill
Red Alert and TibSun did more in their short span than SC did with 5 expansions/sequels

SC is a shitty RTS that has a marketing team behind it
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>>378417039
>starcraft is simply a korean button masher

I have no idea how you're able to type and breathe at the same time since you're such a fucking retard.
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>>378416512
Seriously, what is up with the insane amount of Mercy only players. They only fucking play 1 character and get mad at you for shit. Not to mention they commonly get scouted and focused to death now thus preventing a rez.
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>>378417039
>Overwatch is a moba meets babby's first FPS
I will never understand this
There are no creeps
There are no lanes
There is no last hitting
There is no deny
There are no upgrades
There is no Jungle
There is no pit boss
The only remote thing is Ultimate spells, which require a charge, and even then MOBAs have a use, then cooldown, rather than charge then use

>inb4 some retard claims "i-i meant it as Massive Online Battle Arena...r-retard!"
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>>378410196
I like D.va
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>>378417160
Sure, fine. Perfectly fair.

But the implication that any of those games are on the same level of Overwatch is a complete joke. Calm your fucking aspergers.
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>>378417012
Do you really think people spend hours orbiting streamers for the sake of it?
This isn't real sports or "E"sports for all that matters, nobody cares if you win or lose when you're streaming, they only care if you're good at what your doing and if you're entertaining, even if you're complete trash and cry like a baby, that's still entertaining.
It really doesn't take a lot to become a popular streamer, if you're good at the games you do then people will watch you to learn your secrets and look how you play, like when we all used to go watch that fat asian kid in the arcade room breaking the highscores and trying to understand how the fuck is he doing it.
If you're entertaining enough to make someone laugh, then you're a gold mine.
Think about it, how can these absolutely abysmal bastards like DSP earn that much when they're absolute trash?
Entertainment.
Then how can people like Kephrii who are extremely fucking good at the game but with the personality of a dead cat still manage to pull almost 10k?
They're good.
Merge both and you have a business.
Get just one and you might have a living.
>i dont have the charisma or the personality
Either you fake it, or you just don't do it anon.
It ain't worth the hassle.
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>>378417325
You win games based on abilities, combo with said abilities and ultimates, not aiming skill.
The man with the best aim will get outplayed by someone else who can just negate all you do with a button.
That's a Moba meets FPS.
And that's cancer.
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>>378417325
just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not true. hate to break it to you, but you're probably a part of the >50% IQ scale.
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>>378416961
Denial
>>378417259
Anger
>>378417341
Bargaining
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>>378416598
You are obviously jaded about esports and you make very generic and commonly parroted blanket statements.
>Esports games are always the same
>we can both agree that both the coordination and reaction of Mobas and the precision and muscle memory of FPS games are two different kind of skills
>Comparing Quake to Mobas is like comparing Sharpshooting with Chess.

Anon, these are factually wrong. It is easier for people to play Dota if they have experience in mouse-intensive games like RTS or FPS, this alone suggests there is a common basis (which is usually obvious without any proof, since we now have at least a basic understanding of neurophysiology).

And Dota is much closer to FPS then Chess is to Sharpshooting, it's not even funny.

Isn't it ironic how early Dota players used to justify their passion with "it's more strategic now! like chess!" arguments and were told to fuck right off, and now you claim that they were right all along! And this one line

>Esports games are always the same
shows your experience with the genres and invalidates all your arguments. You know one argument against chess as an interesting activity I hear constantly throughout my semi-pro career? "It's all the same". This usually fades away as soon as people gain more knowledge and understanding.
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>>378417438
I swear i've never used this in a serious setting on here, but i seriously think you don't play the game you're critiquing

>>378417456
>you don't see the comparison, but i do, ergo you are the tard
Tell you what, you explain to me how they are similar, and ill wait patiently
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPOLn58cnW0

No I do not like aimbots. Also now when I look many of the clips have been removed.. There was a very funny one where theres enemy nano soldier with ult being slept by his ana and he is trying to fight against the aimbot so thet he wouldnt wake him up but fails. He mouse just moves super fast he just goes "uuh" that whole time. He also uses aim assist like the one in some single player games such as Borderlands 2. Its very obvious once you've clocked 500 hours into that game but every time you bring that up in twitch chat or youtube every child is just going to attack you for accusing their favorite streamer.
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>>378417621
Also check his youtube history and theres Minecraft PVP videos and then somehow he is better at aiming than people who dedicated 20 years of their lifetime playing Quake.
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>>378417572
>spoonfeed me
nah fuck you you're a dip shit
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>>378417551
>implying Overwatch is as difficult or technical as CS:GO or Starcraft

????????
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>>378417853
From what i'm reading, i think you just have no fucking clue what you're talking about
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>>378412303
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>>378417382
Interesting. I'll do some more research into it.
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>Watching pro players
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>>378417569
I'm not jaded, i just don't like the Esports universe.
I find myself watching some streamers once in a while, but that's it.
I used to play many games, i dropped them all after a while because they were redundant and their communities entrenched themselves in their opinions about said games because they supposely knew more than anyone else because "they played the game, they knew what they were talking about".
I will not deal with so much denial when the actual faults and issues are there open to see for everyone.
Now, how do i know you're a die hard Dota\Moba fan? Because you're defending it and putting it on the same place as RTS or FPS games.
And that's horrifically wrong.
You're the reason i left that ambient after 4 years of LOL and 3 more years of Dota2.
It makes me shiver how i see this kind of behaviour even in Overwatch, a clear sign that the game isn't any different from its predecessors, and how the community is the same as Moba games, if not worse.
>esports games are all the same
I think you just misunderstood what i tried to say there.
That sentence was a tentative to explain why every single Esports game shares the same mechanics of coordination & reaction when there are close to none with mechanical aim or any kind of fps related stuff.
And no, CSGO doesn't count.
>>378417572
I'm a level 700 decayed grand master, now diamond since i don't care about climbing again.
Overwatch is a MOBA\FPS hybrid.
It's time for you to accept it, anon.
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honestly im /v/ as all hell but i really cant understand the hatred towards popular twitch streamers. just get outside and walk around if you find yourself getting a hate boner over calvin
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>>378418445
>didnt even read the thread posts
>is also a dumb frogposter
Dumb frogposter.
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I really wanna fuck D. Va
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>>378418189
>putting it on the same place as RTS or FPS games
[citation needed]
Anon, I play chess for a fucking living (almost). I do not play Dota or LoL (although I do watch the TI). I find that Dota is a better esport to watch, that is all. It is a non sequitur from you to claim that I endorse the changes, whichever those might be, in the metascene of the industry, Furthermore, I still play AoE and SupCom, and could never say they require less skill than dota-likes, and the length you go at to put the words in my mouth defy the list of logical fallacies.

You have this image of esports and all its fans, and you are trying to project every opinion that dares to question you onto your biased vision.

Moreover, this line
>and their communities entrenched themselves in
tells us more about the reasons you feel the way you feel: it's not just the games, it's the people. You know what? That is fair enough! Just don't fucking pile it up into the game mechanics and skill required discussions, you doofus.
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>all this twitch kids that are also overwatch babies
god damn I feel terrible for browsing this board, goodbye
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>>378418965
>it's the people
Dare you not declare implications when there are none, smartypants.
Bring your chess bullshit somewhere else, you're a warmongering faggot who is doing nothing but merely arguing for the sake of it, while adding no other arguments to the platter.
I should have seen this coming from a mile, but you seemed genuine for a second.
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>>378416756
>>378413317
>>378413075
>sample

fucking dumbass
>>
he banned me for saying "Calvin=Meanie" in his chat. I took it up with his mods and they said they would both do something about it. Two weeks later one isn't responding and the other blocked me. Calvin can go fuck his Vietnamese self to fuck, along with his gay ass mods.
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>>378419756
>uses logical fallacies to prove his point
>gets called out
>"wah-wah! you are merely arguing for the sake of it!"
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>>378414252
It is on sale, 30$
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>>378412432
I want to _be_ D.va!
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>>378420087
>heh i'm gonna uncover his fallacies to teach him a lesson
>but i wont contribute to the discussion because i suck big nigger cocks :^)
>teeehee that will teach him :::::^^^^^^^))))))))
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>>378417326
>ywn be in her position
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>/v/ forever assblasted by overwatch's popularity
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>>378417621
Dude would have been banned by blizzard at least 20x by now if he truly used an aimbot. I don't even want to know how many times he gets reported for it.
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>>378414489
>comparing video games to 1. a physical activity that requires an abundance of space, and 2. a work of art that requires abundance of time to write, attain actors, film, and edit
You do realize how retarded you are, right?

You literally the exact amount of time you spend watching lets plays is literally the same amount of time you can play whatever fucking game the lets player play, literally the exact same shit that you see you can play. Football and sports is different, large scale football fields and experienced athletes are not that easily attain, likewise, movie sets and skilled actors are not easily attained. With let's play, you literally only need to get the same goddamn game
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>/v/ will never ever _EVER_ stop being assblasted about twitch

"stop enjoying things i don't enjoy" cried the autist
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>>378415000
Playing video games is not a skill, nor a craft. No one is impressed by something you did in a video game.
>>
>>378420431
Yeah but some people don't have the money to get the game, or would like to watch it first to see if they want it.
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>>378420557
You wouldn't make it out of bronze, buddy.
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>pro
>Overwatch
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>>378420617
The latter is obvious, anon, everyone wants to see something and how it plays out before buying, no matter the product. The former, well if you cant afford a video game, I'd say video games are the least of your worries.

There is a difference though when people own the same game, don't play it but watch others play it for an extensive amount of time.

My cousin is the same way, he buys games, never plays them, and watches let's plays of the same exact games. Why? I have no fucking idea.
>>378420753
Still not a skill. Still not a craft.
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>>378420840
>saving thumbnails
embarrassing
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>>378420863
>Still not a skill. Still not a craft.
It takes skill to climb out of bronze, skill you don't possess.
>>
Overwatch? i forgot it exists.lul
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>>378410196
>used to watch Calvin when he only had 800 views
>fucker streamed 8 hours a day
>every day
>After a while he gets to about 2k when tim and moon are no longer streaming
>Joins "TSM"
>10-12k views
>"Pro" PLAYA
Its really sad to see how autistic Esports viewers memespout about "pro" players.
Esports is one of the worst things to happen to vidya and it allowed dumb baby teir games to be popular EG LoL and CS GO because people like to jerk off how some one baits some one and plays "mind" games and how nerds jerk off to doing these tasks makes them think they are smart because they can "bait" enemies.
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>>378421441
If I spent 10 hours a day playing OW would it be possible to get this career choice? Minus the esports but 2k viewers is easily 100k a year.
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>>378421579
Yes, if you're at least consistent top 100.
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>>378421579
Nope because Esports are just who you know and how much a multi billionaire wants to spend on you and how much you want to open your anus for him and if you have 2 slits in your face. Your better off doing a real sport and getting paid more.
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>>378421579
no
thats what everyone thinks
but then you'll stream and get 0 viewers for a few days and say fuck it
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>>378421842
Unless you have tits.
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