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What went wrong?
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stopped making fun tf2 vids
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>>378400693
tf2 stopped being fun
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>>378400693
Did something go wrong? I haven't really been watching too much anymore.
I guess he probably isn't doing TF2 too much these days.
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>>378400693
he became a washed up talent less hack and they all loved him for it
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>>378400818
He's quit TF2 entirely and it's been over a year since he posted on his main channel.
All he does now is stream ranked Overwatch and get angry, then has his editor throw together stream highlight videos once a week or so for him.
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Literally Overwatch
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>>378400693
No jerma
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>>378400693
I miss jerma and star fucking about. Are they not friends anymore?
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>>378400946
What right for Jerma?
Apart from his girlfriend
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Valve stopped giving a fuck about TF2 and fans gave up on it, him included.
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>>378400946
Their dynamic is still so good on the rare occasion they do stuff together but they almost never do. It's sad.
Jerma is the perfect foil to star's angry gamer schtick, and it turns out Jerma works just fine on his own but star doesn't.
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>>378400989
What WENT right, I should say.
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>>378400967
Jerma kept breaking promises with star_ when it came to then playing games and dnd together so I guess there's some bitterness
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>>378400693
Him and Jerma stopped making fun videos and he became a dull ass streamer. The best parts of his videos was either his commentaries or the relatively sporadic editing which made it a fun quick watch. Jerma is doing perfectly fine as a streamer as he still retains what made him hilarious except this time in the span of 4 hours instead of 14 minutes
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>>378401140
Source?
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>>378400693
TF2 is a 10 year old game and overwatch exists
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>>378400989
>Kim
>right

Place your bets on how long until they break up. They're nothing alike. Kim is a nintenbro hipster who literally named her cat "yung soy."
I don't see them having any chemistry together whatsoever, it's just awkward when she's on stream because she's too edgy compared to Jerma.
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>>378401175
Jerma just does things for fun and I love him for it.
Even when he gets mad he's still one moment away from laughter again. No idea how he does it.
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>>378401212
That's what I mean. I have no idea how they ended up together when they're such opposites.
It's almost sad to watch because she gives him a ton of shit but he rarely gives it back, which isn't the sign of an equal relationship.
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COFFEE
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>>378401360
Blame burgah boy and jerma being 30+ years old
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>>378401442
>Burgah boy is married
>I can't even get a girl's phone number
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>>378401189
If you watch some of star_'s streams he occasionally brings up jerma always being late to something. Jerma was also replaced by poke in their dnd sessions with arcadum and surefore since jerma can't keep his promises apparently.
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So was star ever actually GOOD in comp TF2 or was he just a meme youtuber? Like, what was the highest he ever got?
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>>378401387
CHEETOS
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>>378401613
To be fair, Jerma is 30 and doesn't spend every waking hour playing video games, I'm sure he has a day job, considering he only streams three time a week.
Remember the time star_ left his wife locked outside in the cold dark because he was too invested in playing video games to go open the door?

Dude makes jokes about it but he legit has an addiction, and I'm sure Jerma has no interest in playing Overwatch with him eight hours a day, but that's all he plays.
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>>378401754
CHICKEN
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>>378401795
>Dude makes jokes about it but he legit has an addiction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8ZtT7193s
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He showed his ugly face. When it was just his voice and his footage, I thought he was a respectable, successful man.
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jerma is still funny in 2017, ster is not, although ster does have the better grill, kim is shit
>>378401668
out of all the popular tf2 youtubers he was definitely the best, was in plat, i think he he might have played in ESEA open with like tagg, seanbud, and kurt but i'm not sure
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>>378402128
>a guy who plays Overwatch all day every day has a cute wife who makes him stuff and cooks for him and puts up with his bullshit
>the same guy who is famous for being a salty tryhard who is nothing but condescending to his fans

IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>378402128
>although ster does have the better grill, kim is shit
ster's best streams probably are the ones where ashley participates desu
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>>378400693
overwatch
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>>378400967
they are still friends but they dont have a common game anymore

Star really only plays Overwatch now and Jerma doesnt play it at all. Between that and having an actual life now, they probably still talk just not as much
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>>378401212
Jerma is definitely happier now that he's with kim tho.
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>>378402348
It was pretty sad when ster thought he had a glimmer of hope of playing OW with jerma when the custom games where introduced.
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>>378402414
this
he's so much more relaxed. I dare say he's more 'himself' now with someone encouraging his natural foulmouth-ness
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>>378402262
>ashley isn't around
>it's just him getting pissed in ranked and insulting his fans

>ashley is around
>star actually has someone to call him on his bullshit and make fun of him
>stream becomes enjoyable to watch for once

The guy is a living straight man, he can't survive without a foil.
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He played and discussed TF2 for years, got bored of it after it went to shit, then moved to Overwatch.
He use to care a lot about his content quality but now he's just kinda happy with uploading slightly edited stream clips. You can tell by the way he talks now he doesn't give a shit about anything anymore.
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Knowing Star_ hates TF2 now makes me a little sad, he was the first Youtuber I ever actively followed, I liked his voice and he played really well.
At least Mr. Paladin has a really nice output when it comes to videos, I try to watch his videos to go to sleep but I always end up getting really into watching him play.
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>>378402572
The tribes and tf2 streams are definitely the best content he had since the skyrim permadeath streams
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>>378401212
I hope soon, I had to stop watching the stream once it became The Kim Show (also some Jerma). Also Jerma is getting hit by the mindless positivity cancer that cultivates an absolutely awful fanbase. I like that ster calls me a piece of shit and spits in my mouth, keeps me honest.
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>>378402475
sad but inevitable. Ster probably is not a fun dude to play with or against. Speaking strictly about 'skill', he spent the other day playing with Ronnie and Arcadum and pretty much dominating every match. That's gotta be demoralizing when Ster singlehandedly kills everyone on the opposite team by himself while you lag behind him with 3000+ people watching you look like shit in comparison.

I'm not surprised in the least that Jerma wanted nothing to do with it
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>>378400873
>gets angry
this really annoyed me the few times I watched his stream. he legit flys off the handle when anything goes wrong or if chat asks dumb shit. Why doesn't he just do stuff with Jerma in OW?
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>>378402414
For as long as it lasts, once she inevitably breaks his heart he'll get hit by the oneitis.
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>>378402587
>He use to care a lot about his content quality

Thing is I think he cares too MUCH about his content quality. He's said a few times he's not happy just pumping out a commentary video anymore.
He wants to do shit like Sweet Genius and Finn, but they take so long to make, and in particular Finn got copyright claimed the second it went up and he made no money from like two weeks of work.

He basically sees his second channel as dumping ground where he doesn't have to try as hard, yet he uses the excuse of "stop complaining that I don't make videos anymore, I still make videos, they're just on my second channel."
If he were legit okay with what his content has become, he'd put it on his main channel, but he knows it sucks because he's not trying in the slightest.
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>>378402793
He despises his fans. Yeah, every content creator has dumbass fans. Jerma has plenty of them too, but star spends so much time focusing on how much better he thinks he is than everyone else that it's all he talks about.
He has never, ever seemed glad that people are watching him or that he has a chat to interact with. He's pretentious as fuck just because he's good at two very specific first person shooters.

Pretty sure all he wants to do in life is play ranked Overwatch and Jerma's not interested in playing ranked every day, because he wants to actually be entertaining.
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>>378402787
>he spent the entire time bragging about he was the one getting all the kills
>Arcadum got noticeably upset over it when it stopped being funny
>he kept doing it anyway
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>>378403005
Does star_ even have friends at this point anymore
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>>378403151
He has a wife. Probably all he needs.
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>>378403151
He's got his comp Overwatch buddies. Christ, it seems like he straight up ditched his old crowd once he stopped playing TF2.
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>>378402787
Now that you mention it he was an asshole to Jerma too but he always brushed it off and I always thought it was in jest, not so sure anymore.
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>>378403151
he's friends with Tagg
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>>378403243
The last jerma is mad video is definitely bullying
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>>378403243
Ster has always been a grumpy bastard, but at least he can handle appointments like a normal human being.
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>>378403243
I think Star thinks it's jest but Jerma is literally depressed. Even if Jerma agreed multiple times that it's just ribbing, not once did I believe it. I'm pretty sure it's why it took Jerma so long to stream regularly

Star needs a friend that is just plain better than him that also shits on him constantly so he can see what it's like. Ma3la used to do it but that boy is too busy trying to start a talkshow or some shit
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>star with tfw
>he was happy and fun

>star with OW
>he is always mad and trying to be random insted of funny

what went wrong? Was it OW?
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>>378403479
>Star needs a friend that is just plain better than him that also shits on him constantly

surefour
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>>378403005
Nah star_ actually interacts with his chat a lot. He's answered a lot of my questions and I rarely go on twitch chat.

Jermas chat/interaction feels like daycare at times
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watching the stream where star_ watches his old videos made me sad. especially the parts where he talked about jerma
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>>378403486
TF3 would have solved everything before it went wrong
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>>378403538
>surefour
doesn't play with him enough
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>>378403538
that'd work if Ster played with him all the time like he did with Jerma
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>>378403557
I know it's the off season but you can still go tryhard in ranked matches, steve
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>>378403005
Really? This is news to me. I just came in this thread wondering what star was up to these days. Could you give me an example of how angry he gets? I've never really seen him angry in his TF2 days.
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>>378402787
Yeah what a lot of people don't get is that his complaints about that isn't "bragging" or being condescending. I hover just below grandmaster while all my other friends are about 2,000. The fact is that in a somewhat competitive game it's just really hard to have a fun serious game when there's that big of a skill difference between players. It sucks for the person with a lot of experience and it sucks for the person who hasn't played as much.
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>>378403638
>>378403647
They usually do DnD on Arcadum's channel on sundays
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Wow, this thread is sort of a big goldmine of info for me. I only ever knew STAR from all his TF2 videos, I don't know smack about how he is with other people or with Jerma or his streaming.
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>>378403660
This pretty much. I still like them playing together but the constant "thanks for the bits/subs" that jerma does is unbearable for me
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>>378403770
Ever since he stopped playing TF2 for good and he got into comp Overwatch he's just turned into an incredibly salty person who bullies his friends.
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>>378403563
>he barely watched anything older than like a year

I feel like he's ashamed

>>378403661
It's hard to see in his highlight videos because the editor only cuts in the parts where he's making a joke of it. Just catch a few minutes of his stream once the new ranked season starts in Overwatch, you'll see.
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>>378403563
link?
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>>378403770
take this thread with a grain of salt. Most of the thread is anecdotal and its better to form your own opinion by actually watching the streams. People rip on Star for being an asshole aLOT. And he is! But alot of those times are him being ironic/memeing as well

I personally don't think Star gets angry as often as people seem to think he does. It's just the Boston in him
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>>378403680
>It sucks for the person with a lot of experience and it sucks for the person who hasn't played as much.
This is why I only play D2 with my friends.
>>378403926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnss0EXH77o&t=1061s
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>>378403661
https://youtu.be/z3Nhw208iEc?t=42

It's mostly ironic. He does get pretty annoyed at incompetence on Blizzard's end.
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>>378403842
get off of 4chan, Ronnie
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>>378403842
Ster has always "buillied" Jerma. It's been a joke since he got on an extra steam account so he could kill Jerma whiles he was making a video. It's not really meanspirited and sometimes it's not funny and comes across as dickish but it's not like Jerma needs a gang of whiteknights to defend him.
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>>378403814
>>378403660

to be fair, his chat has made it a game to throw as much money at him as possible. Especially at the start of his stream or during 'hype' moments. He mentioned not too long ago that he was going to try to NOT spend all stream thanking people but it IS kind of hard considering people are throwing literal hundreds of dollars at him per person per stream
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>>378404057
But ronnie likes being treated like a bitch by star_
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>>378400693
Blizzard wagecuck
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Used to watch his TF2 vids until one where he said no one had ever got a kill on him that warranted a taunt, the ego holy shit.
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>>378404128
Ronnie's dicksucking is something else. I'd almost feel bad for him if he wasn't always begging for it. I mean, what do you expect from the guy though? Just going from the comic, it's pretty clear that's just him
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>>378404246
>star lecturing people about unhealthy behaviors

o i am laffin
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>>378404246
Star_ came across as an asshole here but he's not wrong at point out that tf2 went to total shit because of the half assed updates
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>>378404440
desu by the time he started playing the game it was already shit
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>>378404440
And the community really is a cancerous mole that he just can't seem to get rid of.
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>>378401795
Guy shit his pants on stream.
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>>378402128
>was in plat
didn't he just get carried most of the time though
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>>378404246
which video is this?
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>>378401927
>>378404691
to be fair, from the way he describes it, it was just a shart
There were a few moments in my life where I wanted to trust a fart
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>Jerma puts up multiple videos a week
>They're always 10/10
How does he do it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJ2DjP_D-I
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>>378404864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyobntgRCmk
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>>378404246
Ster sounds like a baby here, it's just a game. I agree with Valve being incompetent about the updates though.
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>>378404948
HolyMackarel edits them ya goof
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>>378404903
Yeah, but it's not like he was in a ranked game to get into GM or some shit. He was literally just messing around in quickplay with jerma. There was NO reason for it.

Fuck, even if it was just an honest mistake, he sat there in his own shit for like 10 minutes because he was OBSESSED with winning a quickplay match.
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>>378405005
Yeah I know they're stream hightlights but then you look at STAR who does the same thing and his videos fucking suck.
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>>378404951
thanks anon
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>>378404948
He's actually charismatic and tries to be entertaining unlike star. Every once in awhile you can tell he's just putting on an act of being stupid.
But I mean, can you ever imagine star doing something like a magic show on stream? There's no way. The weirdest star gets is just playing a different game than usual.
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>>378403005
Full of shit. Ster knows most people are retarded and calls them out on it. He said he doesn't give a shit if people give him money or not, if he's watched or not, he's doing it for himself.

Jerma is a face, and he's about pleasing as many people as possible rather than appealing to the people who are fine with him as he is. It's why he has a psychotic malcontent girlfriend and Ster has a loving wife.

Jerma is cracking pretty rapidly too, but his editor keeps things fresh. Ster is honestly more about the experience of interacting with him.

I'd honestly have Ster as a bro over Jerma, because Ster means it
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jerma is capable of making videos and streams that don't revolve around video games and he's naturally funny

ster is incapable of interfacing with humans without condescension or flat "sarcasm"
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>>378405135
This, can't stand the game even if I like the person playing it
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>>378405203
Don't you have a wife to ignore, Steven?
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>>378405259
Don't you have some white male tears tweets to make Kim?
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>>378405203
You're full of shit and clearly don't watch any Jerma
Jerma is always completely genuine and actually appreciates his fans. If its a facade than Jerma is the greatest actor on Earth
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>>378405259
She divorced me after I left her outside for 15 minutes to play Overwatch.
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>>378405135
>Thats subjective I love ster2 videos.
Oh yeah I love star playing overwatch and getting slightly amusing kills video #352
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>>378405350
fpbp
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>>378405327
well he IS an actor. Or was

Go find Jerma's Undertale run. There's no fucking way he did what he did blind. Not that guy by the way. I love Jerma but there's no way he's 100% genuine all the damn time
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Glue Man is the best Jerma Rumble character.
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>>378405442
>Jerma's undertale run
can you give me a quick rundown?
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>>378405493
what about the ni-oh video?
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>>378405135
I don't particularly like any of his highlight videos.

His TF2 videos were fun because he was a good enough player to pull off weird shit. He knew exactly what he was doing, and the game is so modular that he could make something new each time.
He popularized the market gardener so hard that it got nerfed despite hardly anyone using is even back then unless they were using the rocket jumper or some shit.
He was a good player who could get kills with awful weapons, loadouts, and self-imposed restrictions.

Now he's playing a game where every character has the same abilities every game, every team has 6 people, there's no custom maps, there's no whacky gamemodes worth more than a game or two.
So now he's just a guy who's good at Overwatch. Big deal. I could watch any other comp player to see that, and not have to deal with his complaining, and I say this as someone who likes and plays Overwatch.
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>>378400693
He stopped being funny, showed his ugly face, and became an insufferable sjw cunt.
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>>378405527
>not demon grandpa
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>I AM THE ROCKET MAN THEY TALK ABOUT
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>>378405527
>missed my chance at a glueman shirt

jerma bring it back pls
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>>378405639
>sjw cunt
what?
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Streaming became more profitable than doing YouTube videos
Add that he uploads stream highlights to his 2nd channel with almost no extra effort, and he's making the ad revenue on top of the Twitch money. I know Jerma hires an editor- wouldn't be surprised if Star did too.
I think the ultimate problem is that Star is kind of a boring live commentator (Watch how cut-up his TF2 videos are and compare it to an uncut Overwatch stream). That and that he gets really salty at Overwatch.
Compare to Jerma who streams tons of games, has an editor who clearly puts in more work than Star's editor for stream highlights, and who is actually a decent live commentator.
Star moved to Twitch because it was easier to make low-effort content and make more money. Jerma moved to Twitch (Probably because Star told him to) for similar reasons, but Jerma still puts lots of effort into his streams.
>book when?
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>>378405639
>sjw
what
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>>378400693

He realized he isn't as funny as Jerma.
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>>378405543
it was a few hours run but uh.. he was solving puzzles automatically after pretending to have no clue how to solve them, finding things he shouldn't be finding. It's been awhile but I THINK he got into the Artifact room on the first try
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>>378405739
Did he livestream it? He usually looks at the chat to figure shit out if he's at a loss
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>>378405686
Pretty sure they both moved to twitch for the same reason. They were tired of churning out the same old low-effort content every week. Jerma said that straight up in that one update video after the live action rumble, and star has expressed something similar.

It's just that unlike star, Jerma didn't take moving to streaming as an excuse to give up on trying, and he's actually still working on things to put on his main channel.
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>>378405729
he used to be a pizzaface but by no means has he ever been ugly. He's put on a bit of weight but he's damn near 30 and sits around playing videogames so that's to be expected
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>>378400693
People realized that Jerma is way funnier.

>>378405612
Overwatch is too limiting for any player to show-off at. I'm not saying TF2 is Quake, but it still allows for some seriously skilled plays, unlike Overwatch which is created and balanced for the lowest common denominator.
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>>378405729
he gained a lot of weight
he has a fat face now
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>>378405680
He went on a huge rant one time about how people shouldn't white knight and offended for other people who aren't even necessarily offended.

The fact that he sometimes reports people who are blatantly racist doesn't make him an SJW.
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>>378405739
I'll just watch it. Thanks anon.
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>>378405825
he did but he played alone first. And still put on a bit of an act. It was more snort-worthy than anything
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>>378405864
he looks better with some weight, he used to be a skinny fuck
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>>378405847
>It's just that unlike star, Jerma didn't take moving to streaming as an excuse to give up on trying, and he's actually still working on things to put on his main channel.

It's been almost a fucking year since Jerma rumble dude.
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>>378404246
I feel like this shows that Jerma is more intelligent of a person than Star and this pretty much proves and shows it.

Jerma recently said in a video that "TF2 was a huge part in the channel and he appreciated playing the game for so long, and everything that had happened."

Star fails to realize that he's always going to be apart of the TF2 community whether he likes it or not. It's like watching an old movie from 40 years ago, whether the actors of said movie shit on the fans or tell people they don't care for the movie anymore. That actor will always be apart of that movie and a favorite to many people. Star just can't deal with people not circle jerking him like in the old days, the fans on TF2 vids crying for more TF2 vids and whining about it just for him to tell them to fuck off really doesn't do anything at all. He needs to just kind of take it.

Look at someone like Mark Hamil, do you really think he goes a week in his life without someone going "LUKE I AM YOUR FATHER" to him on the street?
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>>378405947
He doesn't talk about it much and I'm sure it's gonna be a long-ass time before it gets done, but he's talked about his plans for new videos on stream.
He's doing more live action videos, including more live action rumbles. It's probably just a pain in the ass to do.
He's also definitely procrastinating on it but I don't resent procrastination, I resent giving up entirely.
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The Jerma and Star_ combo was truly the pinnacle of e-celebs, but all good things must come to an end. Maybe it's better this way

BE BRAVE MOTHERFUCKERS.
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>>378405990
Yeah, I definitely think he looks better with some weight. He's got a weird looking face
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>>378405956
99% of the time Ster pretends TF2 doesn't exist so he's doing exactly like you're telling him to. I like ster and Jerma but one instance of ster getting annoyed and explaining his frustration has pretty much nothing to do with being an intelligent person.
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>>378405956
>Star fails to realize that he's always going to be apart of the TF2 community whether he likes it or not.

I think Ster does denial exceptionally well. He denies that he's a TF2 dude and he seems to be in denial about being a TWITCH STREAMER. He banned Kappas in his chat like that changes the fact that he's an entertainer for Kappa-spamming PogChampers
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>>378406101
Was getting caught part of your plan?
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Jerma is better in everyway
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>>378406150
Tell me about Tagg, why does he wear the tank tops?
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>>378405990
look up his Tribes video on youtube. He was a fucking redfaced skelly for awhile back then. Still bangable but you know. Eh
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Wasn't there suppose to be a vlog on jerma and ster going to e3 2016?
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>That one weapon people only use because they saw a youtuber use it in comp once
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>still rewatch star and jerma's old videos

Why does everything good have to come to an end?
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I am the only one that finds jerma cute as fuck? Not in a homo way
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>>378405847
Difference being that Jerma and HolyMackerel team up to edit together highlights that are of similar quality to old weekly Jerma commentaries. I'd even say that for non-TF2 videos, it's better than his old stuff. Star went from churning out generic content and making something good every few months to churning out dogshit 24/7.
>>378405947
Jerma did a stream rumble. Whatever he had envisioned for the original channel probably fell through, though.

>book when?
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>>378406101
he looks like fuckin Junkrat lmao
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>>378406343
He stopped writing the book iirc
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>>378406312
ster's may have ended but jerma didn't
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>>378406343
didn't he say the next rumble was going to be a school play
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>>378405990
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>>378406464
>yfw it's an actual school play
>yfw Jerma and his friends just show up to confuse the fuck out of a bunch of kids
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Star was okay, but he needed Jerma to be truly amazing. Jerma on his own is much better than Star on his own. At least in my opinion.
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>>378406532
>I'm only one inch taller than Jerma
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>>378406289
>implying iron bomber is bad
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>>378406532
That's such a stupid pose
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>>378406559

I thought Star's best stuff was his late night live commentaries where he was on his own.
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>>378406586
how's ironforge treating ya?
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>>378406618
It's OK if you want to blast jump without stickies, but other than that it's just worse stock. No, it doesn't aim better, that's placebo effect.
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>>378406559
It's because Jerma always tries something new, no matter how dumb it makes him look.
Nigga has absolutely no fear to make himself look retarded, just for his fans' enjoyment. He's a blessing upon this Earth.
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>>378406559
Star isnt a personality really. All of Star's best shit is when he isnt in front of an audience or when he's playing with someone in voicechat being funny for him to bounce off of. He's good for the quips which is why its so good when ashley shows up or anyone even mildly funny can talk for him while he concentrates on being good at whatever game he's playing
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>>378406532
>Jerma has great looks
>Doesn't matter because he's a manlet
Why does god hate jerma?
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>>378406687
5'8

>>378406696
SH-SHUT UP
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>>378404246
He's such an arrogant shithead and what's worse his retarded fanboys will defend it no matter what he does.
Like this fucker.
>>378404440
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>>378406532
Star's a big guy
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>>378406532
say whatever you want about Jerma's height, his charisma outshines anyhting Star has to offer
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>>378406687
Jerma is like 5'6
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>>378406743
Jerma is a doormat, that's why he's stuck with Kim while ster has a cute grill to feed him chicken wraps.
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>>378404039
my god that video my ribs fucking hurt
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>>378400693
literally who the fuck?
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>>378406831
Does ashley even have a picture on the internet? for all we know she may be a hambeast
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>>378406894
she's appeared a few times. She's cute
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>>378406770
For Jerma
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>>378400693
Inflated ego
He started doing "ironic" shit too often on video/stream, it is really fucking irritating when he does it and its not entertaining at the least.
If he doesn't like retards don't fucking pander to them with retarded jokes.
He berates anyone he plays with making it a frustrating experience for everyone

Star_ is just not the same anymore
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>>378406894
Pretty sure she was in a PAX video or something. She's cute from what I remember.
More importantly, she's housewife-tier. Like sewing and cooking tier.

Star and dunkey have it made in that category.
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>>378406995
How doe's a fat autist like Dunkey get such a cutie
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>>378406723
>It's OK if you want to blast jump without stickies
You're fucking retarded if you think this is the only upside of the iron bomber. It has a slightly larger hitbox than pills and the shorter fuse time makes them better for area denial and self defense. You can use them like stickies to knock players out of position too where as regular grenades would roll away. It's right up there with gunboats as one of the most well balanced sidegrades and high level demos switch between them depending on the map.
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>>378405442
>Not that guy by the way.
Sure sign of a samefag.
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>>378407057
>cutie
she's "homely"
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>>378406748
>1.72 meters
Honestly anon, you can stil get some easy, people joke about manlets but you really only are one if you are below 1.70, rest is just memery.
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>>378402589
MrPaladin is a humble person but he is also insanely boring to listen to
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>>378407057
Both ster and Dunkey are assertive and can be abrasive at times, girls dig that. Pathological nice guy Jeremy gets stuck with Kim.
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>>378407089
Different strokes my dude
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>>378407118
I like him because he's focused on teaching and demonstrating, rather than showing off.
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>>378406748
Just accept it and move to asia to become king of the manlets
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>>378407069
n-nah
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>>378407069
is that actually her? She certainly LOOKS like the type of person to laugh all day at noting at all
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>>378407069
she's got a skinny body but her face is fat, and she lowkey looks like amy schumer
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>>378406101
He looks like a fucking methhead.
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>>378407089
She's not perfect but she's not ugly.
She's skinny and she's very traditional, that's all you need.
Far more than you'd expect of post-depression dunk.
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>>378407057
>charasmatic guy with handsome-potential if he looked after himself a little better
>gets trapped into a relationship with a harpy who's into ageplay
I hope he's happy, that's the important part.
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>watch his styx 2 stream on youtube
>he keeps saying stuff like 'I'm a big boy, I can get up there on my own'
>I think he's just being le random
>it turns out he has erectile dysfunction now
christ, can this guy get a break?
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>ster is the definition of a huge faggot and a cunt
>/v/ likes him
Who would've guessed.
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>>378407270
does she actually put diapers on him?
i heard they get freaky in bed with pacifiers and bibs
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>>378407130
Kim isn't bad as a person but she just literally seems like ster as an Asian girl. She bullies him and makes fun of him, so I don't know. Maybe Jerma just likes those types of girls.
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>>378407130
>Pathological nice guy Jeremy gets stuck with Kim.
IT'S NOT FAIR
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Say what you will about video game playing autists with good women

No one will ever have it as good as Brian "Brian Kibler" Kibler
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>>378407302
/v/ likes his content, not him per say, I just like Jerma, you can tell he is just a chill guy but I can admit that while Star_ is a fucking faggot his old shit was prety good.
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>>378407356
Jerma's probably got an inferiority complex due to his height.

So he might be into face sitting and a girl who is very assertive.
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>>378407302
>>378407402
It's funny, I remember some moment on stream where Jerma jokingly says to star "you're a bad person. You're like a legit bad person."
And while yeah he's obviously being funny, I think he's partially being real.

Star seems like your asshole friend who's fun to hang out with but who, in all reality, you're fully aware is a complete dick.
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>>378400693
I miss Basically. Another victim of the algorithm.
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>>378404246
I knew he was a dismissive asshole but fuck me, I didn't know he was that bad.
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>>378407276
>>it turns out he has erectile dysfunction now

I'm gonna need that source pronto
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who
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>>378407118
>MrPaladin is a humble person
NO HE FUCKING ISN'T
I had the misfortune of playing with him in a pub once he is the definition of a lenny spamming shit talking cunt. His videos are just an act, he's a massive piece of shit who is insufferable to be around.
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>>378407524
>he actually talks down on Uncle Dane for sticking to his engie thing and not throwing away his own success
>he actually talks down on someone for doing what they're good at
>he actually talks down on someone for "not moving on," as if making videos about a somewhat different team shooter is "moving on"
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>>378407270
>>378407339
I was going to say you're full of shit
but then I remembered the yummy nummies vids
she really does treat him like a baby in those, I guess it could be part of the act but it seems pretty convincing
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>>378407628
Any proof?
It could be just some random faggot pretending to be him, there are plenty of people like that on TF2
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>>378407753
Yeah it's pretty funny watching his videos when he was shilling Overwatch, basically saying he's into it because "it's not TF2 guys look!"

It's the same shit when people move from WoW and go to FFXIV.
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>>378407753
>>he actually talks down on someone for "not moving on," as if making videos about a somewhat different team shooter is "moving on"

pretty sure he means people moving on from himself playing TF2
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>>378404246
He has to have mental issues, what the hell is with that shit?
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>>378407797
you see him get his bib in the pretzels video, the proof is in the cheese dip
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>>378407861
I'm pretty sure that Anon knew what star meant.
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>>378407503
>Star seems like your asshole friend
Anon, he is one, a massive prick retard that once in a while managed to do good content but other than that is just a fallen 30 year old guy that shittalked one of his few friends non stop.

Star_ is a complete douche, he doesnt even really try to hide it, his bitchy atitude when bein relaed to TF2 shows it well, he cant even admit he is part of the community forever now and goes all bitchy, now just resigning to shit content thats barely edited, just clips of overwatch.
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>>378404246
He's actually right. Even when he played TF2 he hated the community but couldn't leave as no other game gave him the same kind of feeling that TF2 did. Then, Overwatch came out and hence the situation he's in now.

If he doesn't want to play the game then that's his choice. He has no obligation to play TF2, not to his fans and certainly not to Uncle Dane.

It's not even like he sucks Overwatch's dick all that often, either. If the game has problems he mentions them.

I will agree that Star is more entertaining playing TF2 than he is Overwatch, that TF2 is more enjoyable to watch than Overwatch, and that I'm disappointed with the lack of content on his real channel. However, he has no obligation to make me less disappointed and can do whatever the fuck he wants to.

I feel like Star's videos are great because of him and Jerma. Not because he's playing a certain game. The game only adds to the entertainment of the video, and doesn't source it.
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>>378407389
I would fuck Kibler's wife so hard
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>>378407861
The thing is, I watched the video. Dane mentions star for like 10 seconds to talk some offhand shit and never mentions him again, and it happens like halfway through the video.
So star went out of his way to get to the part he was being shittalked during and couldn't just let it go. He probably got linked the video by a fan saying what happens in it and, like a baby, clicked on it because he couldn't stand not knowing what was said about him.
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>>378407861
But the point Uncle Dane was trying to make in that comment was that many things Star did pretty much left impressions to this day. Only idiots are begging him to come back and start playing TF2 again (even though it's probably going to happen if the Pyro update is as big as its rumored to be, because he just seems like the kind of person that would).
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>>378407847
No it was definitely him, I checked his profile when I ran into him because I didn't believe it either. I was like you and thought his videos were interesting and I was trying to learn spy back then. He talked a lot of shit but had his buddies stacking the team and pocketing him. Absolutely cancerous individual.
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>>378407540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Bs9w6KnMo&t=46
he doesn't really beat around the bush here
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>>378407356
>Kim isn't as bad as a person
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>>378408072
>ywn be
>handsome
>charismatic
>always happy
>really good at games
>have a cute dog
>have a cute alcholic wife
>have a horde of adoring fans

>ywn be Brian Kibler
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>>378408313
Thats fucking disgusting
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>>378407389
>>378408072
>plays MTG competitively for years
>get entered into the Hall of Fame
>settle with your bangin' wife and cute dog into HS streaming and casting for an ez life where people throw money at you and you get to travel a lot
Really intelligent dude and commend him for having it sorted out.
He plays HS in a pretty great way too, trying to get the cool combos and niche decks, best way to play if you can drop the money on the game.

and wife videos on YouTube are the fucking best
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>>378408313
She's such a basic bitch, jesus christ. Just you watch, she's gonna cheat on him and act like it's his fault. Then we'll have sadjerma for two months.
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>>378408313
This tweet is typed so poorly that I bet she meant nothing at all. She's not too bad on stream, but her Twitter is fucking retarded.
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>>378408325
he's living the dream
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>>378408215
nigga

got me excited for nothing
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>>378408405
Stop shit posting, Kim.
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>>378407628
>>378407847
>>378408135
I've played with Paladin in a pub. I don't remember him spamming Lenny faces at all, but it's been awhile, so my memory might be a little faulty. I do remember him and his pocket making it impossible to exit spawn. I didn't see him Spy at all; only Soldier. Has anyone here played with him while he was playing as Spy?
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>>378406289
>used it before b4nny said it was a direct upgrade
>get called a fag then who can't aim
>get called a poser now
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>>378408313
what did she MEAN BY THIS?
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>>378408475
I'm just an optimist. Have you seen her on Jerma's stream? She can barely form cohesive sentences and he makes fun of her for it. I just think she's a bit ditzy and wasn't trying to say she was cheating on Jerma or whatever in that tweet.
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>>378408548
>I want a guy that loves me for being his gf
>hey, arent you with jerma?
>this isnt about jerma at, wtf?
Yeah, be a optimist all you want anon but that shit is hard to be anything else other than her not being happy.
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>>378408313
Honestly this tweet is probably innocent with proper context.
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>>378408548
seems to me like she's making an airy, daydream-y tweet. I have no idea why people get so assblasted about it
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>>378408639
I dont hink they were together right then
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>>378407276
>>378407797
What the hell
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>>378408548
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>>378401842
CUMMIES
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>>378408639
Maybe she's saying "I just want a dude that treats me nice", and then the second tweet is her saying "I'm not shittalking Jerma, he's that kind of guy".

I honestly have no clue what she's trying to say but it's worded so poorly and they both have a really nice on-screen personality that her saying she's not happy with Jerma on her public social media account makes no sense.

Look, I'm really not trying to defend her to the end. Bitches are stupid and all that shit. However, I don't think that tweet is as nefarious as a lot of people think it is. She hasn't posted anything like that again as far as I'm aware, and I don't really give a shit in the first place. She's just a bit of an airhead.
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>>378408481
When I ran into him it was a few years back, 2014/5 I think. Badwater pub doing same thing but as demoknight with a medic up his ass and his friends spawncamping. He had a bind spam script going the whole time.

You're welcome to believe what you like as I didn't record it but I'm just warning you not to fall for his le classy gentleman facade. If you want to learn how to play spy watch stabby's content, he's actually good at the game and isn't an asshole.
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>>378408728
you're quoting two posts about different youtubers mate
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>>378408935
I'm still surprised by the amount of fuckery in both posts.
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>>378408463
what did you expect?
him showing his limp noodle? wiggling around his gf's pussy with no effect?
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>>378408901
>stabby
>isn't an asshole
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>>378409008
nah dude but he admitted to shitting his pants on stream. If he had ED, he'd say it. I was IN that stream
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>>378408978
they're both pretty sound in what they're saying

go look up Yummy Nummies, that's Dunkey at the end acting like a child
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>>378409060
I've played with him quite a few times in lobbies and pubs and I've never seen anything to make me think otherwise.
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>>378409008
Dude, that's clearly a fuckin' joke. A shit joke, sure, but still a joke that anyone neurotypical would get.
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>>378407130
I really should show jerma to /fit/
proof that even with good looks and a trained body, if you're awkward or insecure, you still can't get a proper gf
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>>378409221
have you watched his streams? He's a fucking asshole and is always vaping
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>>378409335
I don't use twitch at all so I wouldn't know. Got any videos?
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>ster and Jerma have a massively overlapping viewer base
>Start streaming
>Jerma starts cultivating the mindless positivity cult in his chat
>Jerma viewers lose all ability to deal with bantz of any form
>Start bitching about ster being mean everywhere
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>>378409472
What? Jerma was always pretty positive when he was on his own. He's the exact same.
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>>378409612
Back then there wasn't a constant interaction with his viewers.
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>>378409698
Okay, and?
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>>378409472
>Being so massively desensitized to someone being a fucking asshole that you think people pointing it out are wrong.
What did he mean by this?
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>>378409472
>being a snotty asshole who gets mad at his fanbase
>bantz

Ster is trash.
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>>378402729
you sound like a fucking cuckold
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>ster and jerma fans constantly arguing with each other
>not realizing that tagg has been best boy since the very beginning
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>>378409895
who?
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>>378409860
>anon doesn't get the joke
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>>378409895
tagg doesnt like cats

he's actually worst boy
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>>378409472
>twitch chat
>positive

ok whatever you say
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>>378409895
tell me about the pancakes tagg
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>>378409895
Tagg is alright but he doesnt upload enough for me. His minecraft streams were great though.
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>>378409895
My negro.

Tagg's stuff is bretty comfy, I gotta catch a stream some day. The Butts McKraven stuff for TESIV is kinda repetitive though.
>See tough enemy
>OH SHIT I CAN'T FIGHT THEM
>better run to a city!
>stand around for an hour while the npcs fight to the death
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You're not wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mkkK-L1qU

why is he so fucking weird?
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>Star subscribed to his main channel with his alt.
lmfao
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>>378410039
byea
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>>378409895
>>378410026
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>>378409895
He feels too much like a bastard hybrid between star and jerma.
He's funny, but he does too much of star's "haha GAMERS pffff look at these GAMERS" thing.
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>>378402128
>jerma is still funny in 2017, ster is not
Jerma is still funny because his stream stuff has largely the same kind of humour, ster doesn't.
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>>378409895
who the fuck names their dog pepsi
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Wow, for a thread with Jerma in it, it's not that short.
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>>378410467
fuck off carlos
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>>378410039
>WHAT'S THE NUMBER TWO INGREDIENT IN A SNAKE?
>POISON
>*loud chew*
>RIGHT?

i love this man
>>
HEY GAMERRRRRRRRS

DO YOU WANNA MAKE SHOTS LIKE *THIS*?
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>Star is so bitter that he goes to a 4 year old video and explains that Jerma "didn't really" kill him.
https://youtu.be/lnss0EXH77o?t=19m45s
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Somebody post more Kim tweets these are hilarious
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>>378404246
Minisentries are cancer. If you don't think so you're a fucking dumbass.
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>>378405053
Because his stream highlights are a lot like his normal videos, you could probably put two side-by-side and not tell which channel it was from.
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i can't blame him for ditching tf2
his later tf2 streams usually went like this whenever he was pubbing

>plays on his 6th alt with a HUD specifically made to hide what server he was on
>people still found him through other players' loadouts, weapon names or just checking all servers running the map
>children join and pocket him while going "it's ster :DD" no matter his class
>obligatory stream snipers join and focus him, some even cheating

he sounded fucking miserable.
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>>378411461
his fanbase was mostly children. Of course he'd want to get away. Half his current chat is TF2 rollovers and they make the chat experience fucking awful even by twitch standards. I'll never understand people whiteknighting for that clingy, pile of trash fanbase
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>>378411461
No better than his Overwatch streams really.
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>>378409895
tagg streams are great
the whole budsquad was too pure for this world
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>Use to actually not like Jerma very much back in the day and thought he was an annoying friend of Star's
>Star's become what he is, while Jerma has actually gotten way better at being funny and making entertaining videos

Huh.
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>>378411729
its a bit better. Instead of people in chat stalking him directly into servers, he's gets randos making a big deal about being in a match with him. It's nowhere near as bad as the tf2 days but at this point Star overreacts to it as a matter of habit
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>>378411729
>guy mentions tf2 in his stream
>banned and dragged to gulag in 0.02 seconds

he REALLY wishes he could erase his past, doesn't he?
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Reminder that Jerma eats ass.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jnbaNfkso Posting one of his best non-TF2 videos STAR_ had ever made.
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>>378411963
OF COURSH HE DOES

A man of superior tastes through and through.
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>>378409895
Fagg is way too pure for this world
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>>378411995
Sweet Genius is an amazing video but it's also what killed his channel.
It was like his labor of love and it ended up bombing completely compared to some random shitty TF2 video he could pump out in a day.
So he gave up on doing anything at all.
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It was really fucking fun while it lasted. The two Tactical Intervention vids he did with Jerma have me in stitches every time.
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>>378411995
I'm fine with him not making TF2 videos, but it upsets me that he doesn't make videos like this either. Ster has so much potential and he's wasting it playing Overwatch all day and not even being too good at it.
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>>378411995
Basically was Star's best content. It's just that they took so long to make and he doesn't make enough money off them that he just doesn't bothing making Basically anymore and just resorts to getting a guy to edit his Overwatch streams. Lowest effort for most Youtube cash.
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>>378411461
pre-mym tf2 seemed really shit to stream in general if you were popular and not spending 100% of your time in PUGs or queues for them

this shit happened to others too, like tagg and truktruk.
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>>378409331
Jerma lifts. He's just not informed about diet or training.
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I wish I had a friend like Jerma. Ster is a fucking dingus for cutting connections with a guy like Jeremy.
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>>378412118
He makes as much from one stream as he did on a single video. Why the hell would he spend two weeks to a month of hard creative work when he can just play a game?
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>>378412137
People keep throwing around what killed TF2, but honestly it was Meet Your Match that actually, officially killed it.
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>>378412175
His name is Jeremy?
I thought it was something like James or Jeremiah.
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>>378412210
Jeremy Harrington
https://voice123.com/jeremyharrington
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>>378412185
I can't argue with that. It's just clear he has no passion for what he does and I don't want to see it affect him negatively.
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>>378412118
he said videos like this are his favorite to do but it isnt worth it because so few people watched them

he got like a million views for those sniper stomp videos with the music overlays but sweet genius had like 100k way back when and it took a little while to get there
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>>378412210
It's been mentioned many times even before he established the second channel. Most of the "grandpa" cameos had him calling Jerma/himself Jeremy couple of times.
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>>378412275
His child fanbase fucking sucks dick. Doesn't know quality content if it slapped them in the tits.
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>>378412275
So he sold out, basically (no pun intended)? I guess he has a family to feed, but it's so disappointing.

>>378412331
Every new viewer he gets in an Overwatch stream shittalks him constantly. The only people still watching him are the people who loved his old content but just can't let go.
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the games he plays has nothing to do with it, the transition to streaming was the thing

in his vids he had a persona going, but keeping that rolling for hours upon hours day in and day out is impossible. he's just 100x more generic as a streamer, and his insistance to distance himself from his past just makes him more miserable as it's an impossible task
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>>378412409
I just never bothered unsubscribing from his channels. I still watch the Overwatch stream videos even if they aren't that great.
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>>378412441
I know what you mean, but he can't do the same kind of shit he did with TF2 in Overwatch. He still plays shitty game on stream with Jerma, but it's different live than it is in an edited videos.

Jerma2 has more Ster videos than Ster 2 does.
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JERMA VS STAR
JERMA VS STAR

EVERYONE WANNA SEE THIS HAPPEN
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>>378412137
i miss mangachu tf2 streams
he always got fucked in the most spectacular ways by his stream snipers
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>>378412409
>So he sold out, basically (no pun intended)?

I suppose so. But it did seem like a lot more effort for not even half the return sometimes. He could spend a few hours playing tf2 and throw together a video that gets 3 millions views because TF2 is in the title

Or he can spend 2 weeks making Basically Finn and get just over 500K views
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>>378412441
So true. It's the same with Bro Team Pill.
His "review" persona and his streaming persona are like completely different people, though I actually like his streaming persona more. He's my favorite depressed drunkard Canadian baby man.
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>>378412542
That was a once in a lifetime experience anon.
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>>378412567
>basically finn
Never going to watch the show, but there were a lot of laughs had in that one

I wouldn't mind it if ster just did Basically vids for the rest of his life. Hell, they don't even have to be video games
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>that 2007 Demo
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>>378412258
>>378412745
https://voice123.com/demos/385274.html
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCaWqy8ZkiM
I feel old.
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>ywn get another BYEAH
>ywn get another STAR_ video
Why bother living anymore?
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who the fuck is even the tf2 youtubers nowadays? uncle dane, b4nny and who else?

even the first wave of post ster-jerma-shibby people like muselk and funke seems like they've vanished or will vanish soon.

man, tf2 had such fun content creators
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>>378413047
They all probably transferred to Overwatch like Star did. It's basically the same game give or take.
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>>378413047
Tf2 will always have a place in my heart, but Valve killing the game in such a manner is just downright sad. Machinima/Gmod/Early-Mid SFM were just amazing times for youtube
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>>378413184
it really isn't

>>378413029
but jerma streams get byeahs every 5 seconds
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HEY GAMERS
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>>378413294
Everyone called it a TF2 clone on reveal. It's TF2 but it's sci-fi and the classes are now MOBA heroes.
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Things to understand about STER.

>Star has resting bitch voice
>Because he has resting bitch voice, most of what he says comes off as sarcastic or bored.
>He also likes using sarcastic and self depreciating humor because he has resting bitch voice anyway

He's aware he has resting bitch voice and has talked about it.
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>>378413047
There's a couple, you just have to look for them. They obviously don't reach the same heights as anyone you described, but they're there. RTGame and SeriousMartin come to mind.
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Tagg constantly whines and complains about not being more popular. He shits on his viewers too like star. Maybe don't become a full time streamer if you need to beg every month for more subs to pay rent and pass on the guilt to your subscribers. Still watch him sometimes, but Jerma is king.
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>>378413184
i've tried OW thrice and never got into it, but harbleu's stream makes it look fun as fuck.

still won't forget the time he got community banned on steam for having a paragraph of furry smut on his steam profile though
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>>378413647
did somebody say harbleu?

here's a video of his "gf" m4risa jacking off with rainbow stockings.
/CA8AEBA
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>>378406687
https://youtu.be/D-RJ2-khnso?t=4m30s
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>Ster thread
>Blizzturds shilling overmeme
Fucking clockwork.
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>>378400693
He is not Game Grump material, and his quality is not up to par with Oney Plays, yet he refuses to do anything about it.
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1:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toDMu_QzPJI
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>>378413806
i was worried i'd summon this by typing his name but jesus that was fast
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>>378400693
People realised that Jerma had the talent
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>>378413641
well meme'd
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>>378413851
tag's fatter then i thought
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>>378413851
He has to be shorter than 5'8.
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>>378412118
He treats these games like a fucking religion and throws a temper tantrum nearly every time its mentioned.
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>that time he commentated over a video of kate being fucked
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>>378413912
yeah he's never gonna find peace from this hell

be honest the video was pretty hot
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>>378414056
link NOW
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>>378413641
?
the only thing he, rightfully, complains about is his shitty internet
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>>378413927
No meme, I've watched him for years, I still like him but he has some major faults. If I would choose to watch someone it would be Jerma followed by Tagg followed by nuStar_
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>>378413641
My experience with him as well. Hell of his own making, too. Nigga buys takeout everyday, think he lives in a city too.
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>>378413806
I'm curious but I don't know what to do with that jumble of numbers and letters.
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>>378413806
huh
better than expected
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>>378403005
I always got this feeling of smugness/superiority from star_ in his earlier videos (particularly whenever he's playing with someone else), I guess this just validates that.

Jerma is funnier and more creative anyway
>literally made his own live action royal rumble
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>>378400762
>>378400779
Both correct.
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>>378413987
He was bending his legs reee
And he's not short, he's compact
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>>378414302
google it. first link.
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>>378414302
motherless
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>>378413806
>/v/irgin shitposting furfag and the aimbotting tranny sniper main got together
Now THIS is degeneracy.
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>>378401795
Jerma's a waiter and has been for a while
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>>378414396
Didn't/doesn't he also do videos for weddings?
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>>378413851
>Jerma is shorter than fucking SLIN
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>>378414396
hol up, heading out to boston to go to every restaurant I can until I find him
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>>378403005
So STAR_ is a dickhead

I kinda figured but I wasn't sure if it was just me being a weenie that doesn't recognise banter. He talks down other things and people all the time but never really does anything to justify why what he does is supposed to be better. "PewDiePie and Markiplier are for cretin 13 year olds" but my channel where I haven't actually made a video for over a year and I just play the same game making el oh el random jokes is better for some reason

He seems like if I met him at a convention and even went out of my way to make him something he would just look at me like I'm a fucking idiot for trying to occupy his time. God forbid the guy that plays videogames all day for a living on the merit of his fans donating money to him take 10 minutes to interact with someone else that also does the same thing
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>>378400693
Twitch.tv
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>>378414354
Didn't even think to try that.
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>>378406532
Denz?
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>>378414637
>Random anon tells you ster is an asshole
>take it as the gospel
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>>378413029
>ywn get another pirate spy
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>star starts streaming
>a month later he quits tf2 and plays overwatch on stream every day full time
>a month later star is a complete cunt

>jerma starts streaming
>a month later he's playing a variety of new games
>a month later he's still just as funny as in his videos
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>>378414876
I mean I'd certainly believe it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttfPurX6CJw

Listen to this and tell me he sounds nice and genuine
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>>378415025
Stars humour was in his editing, Jermas was what he said. Streaming prevents ster from ever being funny, while Jerma is still able to talk and fun shit
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https://youtu.be/x2-8mhdDHdg?t=3m35s

Wish we could turn back time
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>>378413806
e621.net/post/show/1069012/
if you prefer your former competitive TF2 players' porn with them as their furry characters
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>>378415097
Ster didn't want to pay money to a shitty street hawker? That's your smoking gun?
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>>378415319
>when star would actually get himself involved in these overly-elaborate schemes just for the sake of a 5 second joke

If only he gave this much of a shit now
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>>378407492


There is literally NOTHING wrong with letting a girl sit on your face.
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>>378400693
became a generic streamer
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>>378415571
ok Jerma go back to bed
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>>378415483
Was the truck punchline the last thing like that?
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>>378415849
I bet he sleeps in a race car bed.
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>>378400762
This, Overwatch killed his soul.
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>>378416392
Only to save space, compact beds for compact people.

That's why he's with that asian harpy, it's hard to find a woman more compact than him
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>>378416392
who told you
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>>378400779
>tf2
>stopped being fun
it can stop being fun for an individual after 5000+ hours, maybe, but as a game it will never stop being fun, no matter what Valve does to it.
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>>378401140
kim made him late iirc
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>>378417408
;)
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>>378402589
the best TF2 youtuber is Uncle Dane, then Red Robot, with a side of FUNKe
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>>378418323
funke gives me confidence that even with my lispy faggot voice, i can still be successful

because jesus christ he's 10 times worse than me
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>>378401140
>tfw no stream of Jerma and Star fighting everyone else in Overwatch custom games
They did it in TF2, I wanna see them do it in Overwatch.
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>>378409996
>Making fun of Tagg's breakfast autism
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>>378403486
>what went wrong? Was it OW?
pretty much. the casualness of that shit would drive a dedicated rocket jumper like Star_ insane with how shallow it is
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>>378418393
I actually find funke fairly enjoyable to listen to, not as funny as Jerma but he puts some effort in. Way more than mooseclick and uncle dane the balding engie main that's for fucking sure.

>>378419294
>Implying
I actually want to try taggs pancakes.
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>>378404246
Uncle Dane also made fun of Delfy in this video a lot more harshly than the light jab at Star_, and Delfy was cool about it
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>>378405442
Jerma was a voice actor at one point I think.
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>>378407503
>Star seems like your asshole friend who's fun to hang out with but who, in all reality, you're fully aware is a complete dick.
The Cartman-Butters dynamic?
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>>378412198
Correction: People keep throwing around what killed TF2, but nothing did.
A game isn't dead until you can't find enough people to play. Stop this shit meme.
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>>378420660
Yeah it's only last 75% of its players.
>BBBUT THE STEAM STATS
Yeah go count how many full servers there are and how many people are playing casual. It's nowhere fucking close to the number valve says it is.
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>>378413047
Uncle Dane- HL Engineer main
Mr SLIN- 6s Medic main, very smart
Red Robot- pub Scout main
b4nny- 6s Scout/Soldier/Demo main
FUNKe- 6s Heavy main
Nathan Vetterlein (voice actor of the Scout) does videos sometimes recently too
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>>378420921
>Mr SLIN- 6s Medic main, very smart
lolno slins been shitting up 6s with his suggestions lately. he thought it would be a great idea to unban a bunch of cancerous unlocks only for them to promptly be banned again when everyone remembered how awful they are to play against.
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>>378420914
>Yeah it's only last 75% of its players.
What the fuck is this sentence even supposed to mean?
> It's nowhere fucking close to the number valve says it is
https://steamspy.com/app/440
Yes, there are bot accounts involved in trading. That doesn't mean there aren't fucking tonnes of people playing. Traders run those bot accounts because there's a market for their product. People who buy hats and play the game wearing said hats. Of which there are tens of thousands.

TF2 has a HUGE playerbase, big enough for me to find a fully populated 12v12 game in less than 10 seconds of beginning to search. Therefore, it is not dead.

Anyone who claims so is a dumb fucking faggot regurgitating memes, and needs to stop shit talking a game they don't play.
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>>378421076
>he thought it would be a great idea to unban a bunch of cancerous unlocks only for them to promptly be banned again when everyone remembered how awful they are to play against
Because that shows Valve the problem with the weapons so they can change them.
That's how Wee Booties, Cozy Camper, and Degreaser got changed and improved-- by being unbanned so that 6s players could pinpoint the problem with the weapons through testing, pass it onto Valve via b4nny, and then Valve changed the weapons for the better.

TF2 Competitive Mode is never going to get off the ground, and 6s will just flat out die, if Valve doesn't rebalance the weapons that are bad for the game with good changes.
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>>378421313
>Because that shows Valve the problem with the weapons so they can change them.

If Valve ever paid attention to their own game they would already know how shitty they are.
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>>378403479
So star is griffith?
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>>378421481
>If Valve ever paid attention to their own game
The TF Team does though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8Ubkn_a6Y&feature=youtu.be&t=130
they just work very slowly since (a) its a big update and (b) there are only 16 people on the team
Valve as a whole company needs to hire more people, that's true, but they pay attention to TF2.
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>>378421174
TF2 has always been around 50k but right now it's like 10k at best, giant drop off there. Valve is inflating the numbers.
>Yes, there are bot accounts involved in trading.
Are you fucking delusional? 40k bots? Also why would they even be IN the game? Trading can be done entirely through the steam community now what would be the point of this?
>TF2 has a HUGE player base, big enough for me to find a fully populated 12v12 game in less than 10s
Yeah if all you play is 2fort and turbine which take up 25% of the servers alone. You want to play 5cp? Good fucking luck kiddo. And that's not even considering community servers which are a ghost town.
>Anyone who claims so is a dumb fucking faggot
Right coming from the guy who thinks there are 4x as many bots playing tf2 than actual people.
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>>378420914
>Mvm , Casual , dedicated servers, trade overlords and bots, saxton hale knows what else.
"B ... But i'm on casual queue and it shows only 9K ppl WW searching how can there be 30K ingame".
Ever since that stupid Mr Slin's video ...
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>>378418575
>Overwatch custom games
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>>378421727
oh fuck

>jerma left star to make actually good content
>star couldn't handle it so he sacrificed his comp TF2 buddies for Overwatch caster fame

It's all coming together
Star is even the twinkier, less muscular of the two

Jerma even has a brown gf who I would definitely call retarded
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>>378400693
>patreon
>wife
>overcuck
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>>378421834
you guys really underestimates dedicated servers, remove region / ping filter, there's at least 15K people constantly, counting all modes etc
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>>378421836
You know mvm is dead as fuck right? It's next to impossible to find a game outside of two cities. The stats are visible for that too it's not like it's a secret.

Also I counted all the dedicated servers with players, it doesn't come anywhere close to 50k. You can do the same thing right now and you will come to the same result, where are these 40k extra players valve claims exist?
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>4 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN15rhyzSNc
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>>378421901
What about it? From what I saw it made Star into a boss, that would be perfect for Jerma to join in on.
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>>378410750
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>>378421959
Yes I'm not fucking retarded I searched without any filters there are still a shitload of missing players. There's no answer to this other than valve is fucking lying, anyone can do the math. It makes sense too, why valve can't be bothered to work on the game when it clearly isn't popular anymore.
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>>378422041
1st Tf2 rarely peaks 50K anymore, it's more around 35K, with this player count ingame i have 9K in casual searching and it's ALWAYS in the same range.
I can easily picture the rest in MvM and dedicated servers alone, please don't fall for the Mr Slin's meme, you can shit talk all you want about valve's attitude regarding TF2 but this inflating number thing is just retarded and they don't need it.
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>>378421834
> Valve is inflating the numbers
Valve aren't inflating any numbers. Why would they? If they wanted to make TF2 more successful they would actually advertise it on the frontpage of Steam and TF2 would instantly have another 10k players.
You think they're making up numbers of an extremely popular game just so I can win internet arguments? Quit the stupid tinfoil hat garbage man.
>Yeah if all you play is 2fort and turbine which take up 25% of the servers alone.
See pic. That's my standard settings. Can you stop being a faggot for two seconds?
>And that's not even considering community servers which are a ghost town.
I don't have room for two screenshots but that's also wrong. Community servers make up 50% of TF2's playerbase.
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>>378422119
They made an appointment when it was released, then Jerma canceled at the last minute to go to dinner with his girlfriend, which the she then streamed.
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>>378422216
There is an answer, actually.
>You're wrong.
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>>378422296
>1st Tf2 rarely peaks 50K anymore, it's more around 35K
No the average is still 50k
http://steamcharts.com/app/440#1m

>I can easily picture the rest in MvM and dedicated servers alone
Again these stats are visible in mvm and all the dedicated servers worldwide can be seen in the server browser, anybody can add up the players you can't fucking handwave this away. There is not enough players by a mile.

>you can shit talk all you want about valve's attitude regarding TF2 but this inflating number thing is just retarded and they don't need it.
and this is how I know you're a valve cuck, why question the company who take a giant cut out of every transaction on steam, have notoriously shitty support, half ass every update they put out, regularly fuck over the community with no explanation, and runs a massive virtual gambling business? no clearly this is a trustworthy company who would never fuck over their customers for short term profits. praise lord gaben amirite? *upboat*
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>>378423073
>There is not enough players by a mile
How can we not get this into your dim fucking noggin?
Literally the ONLY reason active players matters as a thing is if you have enough people to find a game and play.
I have enough people to find a game and play. Therefore, Team Fortress 2 is not dead, and you're a fucking moron whining about something that doesn't matter.
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>>378415319
DID SOMEONE SAY POPTARTS!?
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>>378422406
>Valve aren't inflating any numbers. Why would they?
Why would a business inflate their numbers to look good? Gee anon I don't know.
>If they wanted to make TF2 more successful they would actually advertise it on the frontpage of Steam and TF2 would instantly have another 10k players.
TF2 is 10 years old everybody and their grandmother has heard of it by now, nobody gives a shit anymore.
>See pic. That's my standard settings. Can you stop being a faggot for two seconds?
>This 6th grade level reading comprehension
>I don't have room for two screenshots but that's also wrong. Community servers make up 50% of TF2's playerbase.
Yeah and how many are actually playing the vanilla fucking game?
One.

Out of all these servers there is only a single one playing the actual game and it's

not
even
fucking
full
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>>378423965

>max players: 24
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>>378424150
TF2 maps were not designed for 32 players, they no longer function at this point it just becomes "who can spam chokepoints harder". Same goes for servers with instant respawn. It totally fucks balance and there's a reason why valve caps their servers at 24.
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>>378424361

There's still people playing on those servers you faggot. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean people aren't playing in them.
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>>378423965
anon
I don't fucking care about your 100000 word essays
i'm playing a sawmill game right now that took me 5 seconds to find
TF2 has enough people for me to play a game and that's literally all that matters


end
of
fucking
story
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>>378424708
There are people playing on fucking ponyville and trade servers too doesn't mean I want anything to do with them. I can go on any other game with a fraction of the players tf2 has and play the original gamemode. You want to play the game as intended? Tough fucking shit, I hope you like saxton hale and cp_orange because that's all the tf2 community of screeching 12 year olds wants to play.

>>378424748
>i'm playing a sawmill game right now that took me 5 seconds to find
and has all of 5 players lol
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>>378425503

Matchmaking servers aren't even listed on the browser after MyM. That's not proving anything.
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>>378425503
>and has all of 5 players lol
Get BTFO, you insufferable cunt.
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>>378422990
Good for ster desu.

Dude streams all the timer jerma could join in whenever he wants. But jerma only streams on his SPECIFIC DAYS and spends the rest of the time with his thai ladyboyfriend.
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>>378425669
>>378425503
never speak about TF2 again thanks mate, now that you've been so conclusively and utterly btfo

you lose your posting privileges
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>>378425602
>>378425669
When did we go from talking about community servers to casual servers?
I already said you can find games no problem so long as you're willing to play trash like sawmill and 2fort. Looks like the perfect place for you bottom of the scoreboard demoknight.
>>
meme answer: he stopped playing tf2
real answer: he started only playing overwatch
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>>378426081
>sawmill
>"""""""""trash""""""""""
NEVER post again
>bottom of the scoreboard
I've been replying to your inane posts and eating, sue me for sitting at 7/10
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>>378426484
>he thinks sawmill isn't a shitter map
I take it you also think cp_dustbowl is the best map ever made and have never touched 5cp?
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>>378426597
sawmill is a good koth map man. Give it a rest. If you're thinking of the ctf version, it's cause ctf sucks.
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>>378426597
i play lobbies and dm when I'm not eating
>sawmill
>shitter map
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>>378426479
Whats the best koth map?
meme answer:harvest
real answer:quarry
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>>378400693
he went the streamer route and unlike jerma he relies on editing for his style of comedy
also COFFEE
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>>378426649
>sawmill is a good koth map man
yeah because having two giant map hazards next to the point, dogshit performance, and enormous sniper sightlines makes for a good map right?
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>>378426936
A good map? no. A good dm map? yea. And that's what casual koth maps are.
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>>378426936
anon have you had the surfboard lodged firmly 3 feet up your anus checked out by a doctor? i think its affecting your mental state and capacity for enjoyment
>dogshit performance
stop having a poorfag rig
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>>378426998
>a good dm map
cp fucking orange is a good """dm map""", if you're just dming it doesn't matter what map you're on.

>>378427080
>tf2 doesn't run like shit
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>>378426046
Streaming with Jerma would suck anyway.
>WHOA thanks for the bits Steve91991!
>Hey thanks for the three months sub!
>Is that? Whoa 10,000 bits from Tofupie, you guys really don't have to do this!
Repeat ad nauseam.
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>>378406289
>your favorite weapon got nerfed into being situational garbage
Used to be the best way to deal with people that had medics up their ass at all times.
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>>378427410
>cp fucking orange is a good """dm map""", if you're just dming it doesn't matter what map you're on.
No it's a fucking shit at everything map. If you're playing the objective in sawmill, king, hightower, nucleus you're the scrublord. Those maps were designed to just dm on. They ain't comp. maps.
>>
>>378427410
>>tf2 doesn't run like shit
yes, if you aren't a poorfag
also not him but
>if you're just dming it doesn't matter what map you're on.
no shit faggot
>>
>>378427523
It was fine pre-buff, and too shit pre-nerf. Valve should've just reverted to what it was. but "muh 3 shots"
>>
>>378427451
Jerma also tries too hard these days. Needs to make a joke of everything. The mute the game and talk for the characters s the worst shit ever. But i can imagine the chat going LOL XDDDD POGCHAMP.

Ster seems like the same guy as always. But you can tell he doesnt want to stream overwatch as much as he does, but sponsered.

>you will never marry ashley
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>>378427689
>people need that extra shot
If these shit heads could actually aim they wouldn't need the extra pill. I'm probably old fashioned for saying this, but I strongly believe in the, "If shit is giving you problems, work on them so they aren't problems."
>>
>he actually officially changed it from STAR_ to ster
>this is how hard he's trying to distance himself from his old content so people won't say "why don't you make any videos anymore"

he's transformed into a horrible creature
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>>378427689
It's good now. In fact Demo's entire loadout is pretty well-balanced now. He's one of the two classes with absolutely no banned weapons in 6v6.
The only changes I would make are buffing Caber a tiny bit, buffing Sticky Jumper a tiny bit (1 more sticky out), and maybe reverting Claidheamh Mor to its old form.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the state of Demo's balance now. Some people still think he's OP and some think he's UP, but I'm convinced he's one of the most balanced classes in TF2.
>>
>>378400693
>there are people by this day that still play tf2
not related to star, but jesus fuck, who would want to play that pile of shit again, game should have put down to rest after mecha update
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>>378428838
>who would want to play that wonderful game again
me, because it's the best fps multiplayer shooter on the market
>lots of content
>high skill ceiling
>quick to find games
>mods
>>
>>378428275
When he stopped using STAR_ is when it all came tumbling down.
>>
>>378428838
If you want a team shooter its the only good one on the market. Tried overwatch but press q to win was not my style
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>>378428401
Why does the Sticky Jumper need to be viable?
>>
>>378428838

After playing overwatch a good deal since release, going back to TF2 is just a good change of pace. There's more room to just goof off and have fun instead of 6v6 tryhards.

One real fundamental flaw with OW is you only get paired with people who are around your level, so if you feel like playing another hero who you may not be great with, all of a sudden your team is down a person because everyone else is likely playing their "main" and you're sure to lose. If OW would add in a new mode that either had more than 6v6 or playing against complete random people then it'd be better.
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>>378407402
>underage faggots who came from Reddit during the last US presidential election like his content

ftfy
>>
>>378431417
The biggest flaw is that the game offers so little creativity. You aren't really "allowed" to do anything outside of your class's specifically intended purpose.
>>
>>378431194
it doesn't, it is just a fun buff for a fuck around weapon.

also makes it better for actual practice, since Demo with the Stickybomb Launcher is capable of surviving a 3-Sticky jump if he's overhealed. When the SBJ has only 2 stickies out, you can't practice 3 sticky jumps.
>>378431669
this
>>
>>378431194
It's fun

I don't see it ever really getting use in 6s because sticky launcher is just too valuable to lose, but I mean you used to be able to use all 8 stickies with the jumper, shit was fantastic
>>
>>378431983
>>378432017
Did they nerf it? I haven't played TF2 since Mann vs Machine.
>>
>>378432301
yeah. Limited the amount of stickies to 2, instead of the max.

No good reason, either. Just an anti-fun move.
>>
>>378432301
Pretty sure that the old jumpers were gone by MvM.

If not, the jumpers got reworks. They lost the take extra damage trait and got new models, but now you can't pick up the intel with. Sticky jumper can now only shoot 2 sticky bombs and they're completely round to differentiate between the jumper and normal stickies.
>>
>>378432301
A year before Mann vs Machine they buffed it by removing the damage penalty, and a year after Mann vs Machine they nerfed it by reducing the stickies out from 8 to 2.

I'd like to see them bring it back to 3 stickies.
>>
>>378432483
>No good reason, either.
You can't actually believe this. Demos were using it to find glitches in every map to shoot at enemies from unreachable positions, stand in the skybox, or just fly across the map at unhittable speeds which completely broke Sentry hit detection and various maps that have long outside areas balanced by travel distance. The excessive mobility was a problem so they nerfed it. You can still do crazy stuff with even 2 stickies.

Contrary to what you may believe Valve does not hire solely Grinches who hate fun. They make decisions for a reason.
>>
>>378432871
>completely broke Sentry hit detection
Yeah something to kill sentries makes it a bad nerf. Sentries and engineer as a class should never have been apart of tf2 in the first place.
>>
>>378414302
how new are you
it's a motherless link
>>
>>378432483
>No good reason
8 sticky jumps make you move so fast that Source and the standard 66 rate have trouble keeping up and the hit registration goes snafu.
>>
>>378433026
You are retarded my man.
>>
>>378433234
Play the game for more then 1000 hours and any class except engineer.
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>>378433026
>Sentries and engineer as a class should never have been apart of tf2 in the first place
Foolish newfag.

Sentries were added to Team Fortress a year after release because the game was literally unplayable without something to keep high-mobility classes in check. Every game would end in like 1 minute with the enemy flying past each other to the objective and hardly ever fighting.

That's why Sentries are in Team Fortress. They force both teams to actually stop to fight each other, thus making the game a first-person shooter rather than a first-person walking simulator.

Even 6s players who love a fast-paced game understand the importance of Engineer to game structure which is why they don't ban him. Engineer is a keystone of Team Fortress gameplay.
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>>378433325
I am >>378433416 and have played 3020 hours of TF2 with a minimum of 100 hours on every single class in lobbies, in addition to having played Quake and Team Fortress Classic. You're wrong. Engineer is an important part of TF2, even if he does have a negative effect in symmetrical modes.
>>
>>378400873
This right here
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>>378403253
he better be. Fucking love Tagg.
>>
>>378432483
t. scrub who can't git gud at chaining sticky jumps
>>
>>378433132
how did you type the name? i thought it was filtered
>>
>>378417336

lmao what the fuck is this nu-deep pretentious bullshit supposed to mean AHAHA
>>
>>378433984
this, I do it all the time. sticky "tricky dick" jumper is fun as fuck.
>>
Streaming ruins another youtuber.

Streaming is so much fucking easier to do compared to making fucking videos for youtube.

If you have the connection and the pc for it, streaming is just way easier.

Doing youtube videos is a huge fucking hassle if you want to do them right honestly, but when you stream all you have to do is get set up on your end and get comfortable, and just go live. Boom content creates itself.

And the money you get from twitch retards, shave a tiny bit off to hire SOMEONE ELSE to edit videos for youtube.

There is little point in making videos for youtube anymore.
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>>378405670
holy fuck dude that's old as shit.
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>>378400693
What went right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr29lKFsEYY

6:14
>>
Try to post a better Jerma video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7TcdabUiE&t=3s
Protip: You can't.
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>>378435470
garbage guardians will always be quintessential stermakino
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAmk9Qq8-XQ
for jerma-only, the Jerma Rumble is the true champion of youtube-based flicks
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2c94cHcdI
>>
>>378435470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXioRNYy4s

RATS
WE'RE RATS
WE'RE THE RATS

WE PREY AT NIGHT
WE STALK AT NIGHT
WE'RE THE RATS

I'M THE GIANT RAT THAT MAKES ALL THE RULES
LET'S SEE WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE WE CAN GET OURSELVES INTO
>>
this is the best bit star ever got on his vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Es9vGDlbmk
5:19
>>
Ster is an asshole because he doesn't suck his fans dick?
Epic
Always shocks me how people view ecelebs and judge them
>>
>>378435961
Is this dubbed over game footage, or did he make the animation himself?
>>
>>378436303
He made it in a shitty animation program for kids from the 90s
>>
>>378408313
is that supposed to be her in that pic
it looks like a dude wearing make up
>>
>>378401548
That's nothing, I can't even talk to other human beings because I disgust myself.
And I'm not even fat or hideous.
>>
>>378437432
>>378437432
get /fit/ and practice hygiene then? go full ugly betty makeover
>>
>>378400693

Seems like he's going through some game fatigue-all that OW might be getting to him, especially with that lackluster anniversary update.
>>
>>378438191
He just needs to get some regular off-games going. Skyrim streams were fantastic.
>>
>>378438482

He did seem to have fun with those.
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>>378409895
>got to play MvM with tagg three years ago
>frantically had to ask friend if he was steaming to confirm
Having said this out loud, I cannot believe this was three years ago
>>
>>378439271

That's my inevitable reaction to re-watching any TF2-related stuff made by these guys.

>Holy shit, this was [X] years ago.
>>
>>378437912
Well i'm a skeleton but my hygiene is fine, it's more about me being a socially awkward loser neet that feels sorry for himself and is too much of a bitch to do something about it.
I just fucked up life, but if you can talk you can get a number, go gettem dude.
>>
remember when ster_ literary shit himself because he didn’t want to lose/leave an overwatch match?
>>
>>378439920

And they went on to WIN.
>>
>>378439873
then stop being a bitch lol
>>
>>378440508
How do I stop being a bitch lol?
>>
>>378440581
just bee urself :*)
>>
>>378440034
but at what cost?
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