So we're in agreement, right? This is the best JRPG ever.

No arguments? Good.

>>378369148
FPBP

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With those final 2 dungeons and forgettable "antagonist"?

The next persona is gonna make this so irrelevant

fuck school

>>378369284
fuck you

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>This is the best JRPG ever.

no

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>>378369475

Wrong again.

P4 is better. SMT 1 is better.
I don't play JRPG's outside of MegaTen, but I presume others are better.

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>>378368018
Naw. Best Purse Owner hands down though.

>>378370183
only 73 people played Nocturne

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leave it to me

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Here's my complaints at 90 hours, killing time until sending the calling card to the Casino boss [and yes I've been spoiled on the killer and ending]:
>making sarcastic dialogue choices never actually translates that way in-game, akin to [GLASS HIM]
>Morgana and Sae make way too many redundant or repetitive statements
>Tora and Shido are """politicians""" with no actual ideals
>Eiko is boring as shit and ruins Makoto's Slink
>DO YOU THINK WE CHANGED THEIR HEART? text messages every single day after clearing a palace
>September is basically a VN
>OST would benefit heavily from having no vocals

This game is a strong 9/10, but I don't think it surpassed Xenoblade, Nocturne, Deus Ex, Paper Mario 2 or FF7.
It has truly the best SMT combat imo, and I hope SMTV or Deep Strange Journey take notes on some of its ideas.

Iron out the kinks I mentioned and I think it can truly be in the pantheon of god tier games.

I dunno about the best ever, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

>>378370765

Because it was shit.

>>378368018
JRPGs truly are awful then.

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>>378370765
>only 73 people got past Matador

>>378370834
>akin to [GLASS HIM]
Opinion discarded, not even gonna read the rest.
If you actually couldn't figure out what
>[GLASS HIM]
meant, you're a fucking idiot.

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>>378369271
This. Everything up to and including Shiho was 10/10, but my lord the last 15 hours of the game was bad.

God forbid we get a JRPG with a human and understandable final antagonist rather than fight some bland god who shows up at the 11th hour out of nowhere.

>>378370834
>OST would benefit heavily from having no vocals
Once you hear Rivers in the Desert, you'll change your mind pretty fast.

>>378370834
>Shido are """politicians""" with no actual ideals

That's the point of him, technically

>>378368018
Persona 3 was better

>>378371631
It's a megaten game dude

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>>378370834
>Tora has no ideals
>OST would have been better without vocals

>>378371748
tartarus was shit and strega and nyx are meme tier

>>378371642
>Rivers in the Desert

Most overrated track by far.

>>378371848
only strega was a bunch of mumbling morons, Tartarus was great because you were able to explore at your own pace and level up comfortably, and how every block adds to the melody makes it amazing when you're reaching the top, and Nyx was fine faggot

>>378370834
>OST would benefit heavily from having no vocals

What in the FUCK is wrong with you?

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>>378371785
I know, and they repeat that same shit time after time. Shiho was so perfectly set up to be a final boss, everything led to him, he was a personal enemy for nearly your entire party.

>>378371858
>overrated
>Other people like it but I don't

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>>378371985
tartarus is shit, its the same shit for 256 floors. The actual music changes are barely noticeable and the randomly generated design is shit. P5 dungeons absolutely shit on it in every way. Fuck, even P2 dungeons shit on it. You can go at your own pace in P2, P4, P5. They all have better dungeons, but you might be such a p3 fag you're too blind to realize it.

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>>378368018
After that final dungeon? Nope. Sacrilege/heresy tier.

not even close

it's a pretty good friend sim though

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It's up there, but it's not the best, or at least it's not hands down the best. It may be my favorite though. It's definitely one of the better MegaTen games, possibly the best.

>>378370834
>>DO YOU THINK WE CHANGED THEIR HEART? text messages every single day after clearing a palace
This is the kind of shit that gets me. The game has SO FUCKING MUCH repetitive and unnecessary dialogue that you could easily cut its total length in half if you just purged all the redundant conversations.

Like, if you were playing a normal game and you found a keycard in a dungeon, the dialogue might go like
>Hey, a keycard! Now we can get through those locked doors!
And that would be the last time you ever needed to hear about it, and the keycard would never be brought up again.

In Persona 5, it's like
>Oh, look, it's a keycard!
>We saw some locked doors on the way here, do you think we could use this to get past them?
>There's no way to know for sure unless we try. Let's take it with us.
>That's a good idea. Here, MC-kun, you hold on to it.
>Alright, let's get back to exploring!
Then you get to the locked door and get another scene:
>A locked door... do you think that keycard we found earlier could open it?
>Let's give it a try. Go ahead, MC-kun
>Alright, it opened!
>Now we can proceed further into the palace!
>Okay, but let's be careful, I sense shadows up ahead.

Every fucking miniscule little thing has to be followed by a 2-5 minute round-table discussion where each party member in turn gives their opinion on extremely obvious shit that does not bear explanation.

>>378372643

>japanese level
>killing God music starts playing

>>378372578
I prefer it to be simple like that since I tend to care more about the other aspects of the game, so at the end it`s a matter of taste I guess. I don't have to pay much attention in Tartarus, just fuck shit up and keep going up

Palaces>>>>>>>>>>>>> P4 dungeons>= Tartarus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mementos

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>>378370834
>[GLASS HIM]
>Tora has no actual ideals
>OST would benefit heavily from having no vocals
I have no words, this is possibly the most retarded post I've read this entire week on /v/

>>378372972
this is what mementos is for

So we all can agree that Persona's 1 dungeons are the best right?

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>>378372809

this

>the entire month of august

>>378371985
Hold on there, I love P3 but Tartarus was shit, and only a fool would think otherwise.

>>378373182
they are actually better than tartarus except for the first person bullshit and the encounter rate giving you cancer

I want igor to stick his nose in my asshole

>>378372989
Way too many meme arrows there kids, stop being so dramatic.

>>378373194
I liked Tartarus simply because I could order everyone to split up and cover the floor very quickly. Felt more like you were the leader of a team to me. I was really disappointed that you couldn't in 4, but the layouts were more stretched out so I suppose it really wouldn't have worked.

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>>378373419

>>378373338
>banging yourself repeatedly into a wall
>suddenly get attacked

Yeah, no thanks

>>378373601
Oh, You really went to shit after they introduced the cat character.

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Why is Satanael's knife so needlessly edgy?

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*Coughs*

>>378373480
I understand why you like that, it was one of my favorite things in P3 too, but that's party mechanics and has nothing to do with Tartarus itself.

>>378373631
That's exactly what I said, if it wasn't first person it would be better. Estoma lowers the random encounters. It gets fucked over with the first person bs

Without a doubt Press Turn>One more

200 hours, 3 playthroughs, and 1 platinum trophy later I'll say it was pretty good. It wasn't GOAT but it definitely was a good entry in the series while also moving the series into HD.

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>>378370834
>ost would benefit heavily by having no vocals

I mean for sae's palace yes but otherwise I disagree

>>378373729
DDS is a total slog, the sequel is amazing though.

Yeah i don't understand P5

Every other SMT or related game they go all out in the last dungeon

With proper budget you would think casino would get blown out but it just went down from there.

The last dungeon should always have the highest budget

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>>378374028
>I mean for sae's palace yes

>>378374089
They're practically the same game to me, the only reason they're separated is because they couldn't fit both games in one disc.

>>378374131
The vocals got so repetitive. I got sick of it after the first hour in, sorry senpai

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>>378374028
>I mean for Sae's palace yes

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>>378368018

You've got two months to live, kid.

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I'm never gonna replay P5 even though its better than the others.

3 and 4 were like 80ish hours for me but ONLY because i was grinding to get max levels to be broken as shit.

In 5 you could hit the 90's in one day and yet the game is like 100 hours still

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>>378373729
The DDS duology are some of the worst MegaTen games. at least out of the ones that are actually worth playing, and are not close to P5, especially not the second one. The first one has a great setting, the plot has some good twists, they both have great OSTs, Gale is great and Press Turn is good but they are unremarkable otherwise

>>378374239
Dungeons were extremely tedious the further in you got and I feel like the encounter rate was way higher in the first, other than that they're the same game though.

Nocturne has the BEST OST because no vocals ruining the tracks

>>378374554
>Nocturne
>No vocals
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

>>378374474
I didn't know it was possible to have an opinion this wrong.

>>378374554
Is this bait? There are vocals, they're just distorted and annoying rather than catchy and all of the audio has this tinny filter over it for no reason.

>>378373707
> literally the edgiest angel ever
I dunno, why do you think?

>>378374554
I AM THE BUG INSIDE YOU

>>378374474
The raidou games are the worst ones though. The combat is utter garbage in them and emphasise why Atlus shouldn't try abandon their traditional combat system

>>378374554
WE'LL SACRIFICE THE SON OF HEAVEN

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>>378368018
Surely the JRPG genre peaked with The Spirits Within?

It ditched the "it's not called a strategy game so it doesn't need to be good" battle systems, the "it's not a WRPG so it doesn't need to be very explorable" worlds, and instead focused on the strengths of the genre unlike all other JRPGs. The soundtrack, visual, and narrative elements are even bordering on what can be achieved in a rented Hollywood studio.

I honestly doubt that those singing P5's praises have actually experienced this genre-defining masterpiece.

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>>378374554
>best OST
>anything but SMT4
>angry xylophone starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik

>>378374645
>>378374717
>>378374751
You can barely hear the actual vocals though.

It's not like some clear annoying shit like
>You'll never see it cominggg

>>378374909
I can clearly hear the vocals though, making out what they actually say, that took a google search.

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>>378374846

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>>378374717
What's so great about them though? I'm not saying they're bad games, I like both of them quite a bit, but relative to other MegaTen games they're nothing special.

>>378374756
The combat is shit, but everything else about them is so good that I prefer them to DDS. I think it's fair to call them worse though.

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>>378374898
Damnn

Thought the IV games were trash, didn't realise the OST was that good.

>>378374898
B2, A3, Tokyo, and maybe Camp Ichigaya are good but that's pretty much it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPYTkFqH6w
>that fucking whistle

Name a better end game track, i date you.

https://youtu.be/Go0JWfE9nEw

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>>378375114
IV and especially IV:A are by far the best the series has ever been in terms of gameplay, QoL, and control over your party/demons. The only glaring problem with IV is the fucking abhorrent overworld which is fixed in IV:A.

If SMT V has the living, breathing, fully 3D world of SMT Nocturne, a decent story, and the gameplay of SMT iV:A it will be the GOAT.

>>378375216
The soundtrack certainly makes up for this game having one of the worst overworld maps ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc

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>>378375659
That's a great overworld theme you fool.

>>378375216
Ikebukuro Underground is great too.

It's the best Persona but not the best jrpg

The story fell apart during the Space McDonalds arc.

Haru was a garbage character who didn't need to be added on.

>>378375503
>The only glaring problem with IV is the fucking abhorrent overworld which is fixed in IV:A.
The AI Partnersmcombined with Smirk being so strong are also shit, though that's only an issue early on. The Asura fight was fucking awful, I almost felt like it wasn't even playtested with how annoying it was.

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>>378376001
Haru has one of the best social links in the game, but they added her way too late and clumsily.
Still better than Naoto

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>>378376089
Yeah forgot about how horrible the AI partners are.
>I'LL END IT THUS
>Agi

>>378376121
No one cares about social links that are irrelevant to the story

Naoto actually pushed the plot foward unlike Haru.

Haru=Nothing

>>378376121
Naoto is actually relevant to the plot. Haru is literally non-existent.

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>>378376121
haru does nothing but get dicked by her fiancee after the space palace

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>>378376001
>Best Persona
But Persona 1 exists?

>>378368018
Valkyrie profile is the undisputed GOAT though

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>>378376741
>Implying anyone has played p1 or p2
feelsbadman

>>378368018
>So we're in agreement, right?
fuck off. Also I bet you've played like 2 final fantasies besides P5 so just shut the fuck up

>>378374846
>using a stale meme
Also, best JRPG worlds have a shit-ton of stuff to explore. I think you simpletons confuse yourself further and further as time goes by.

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It's really good but it still doesn't top P3 for me.
Or the rest of my favorite JRPGs.

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>>378368018

It would've been.

>>378368018
The plot and the twist were hilariously bad.
>DUDE HACKING LMAO

The plot became a joke after the whole """twist"""

>>378376001
Haru just feels so forgettable

>>378377412
Do you mean explore in the sense of '80s point n click or explore in the sense of 21st century sandbox? lel

>>378377143

No need to get upset, friend.

>>378377435
flip phones didnt have forward facing cameras though

>>378377662
>21st century sandbox
>"explore"
How do you explore nothingness, anon? Also, 80s and 90s JRPGs are as explorable as their CRPR contemporaries. They only fell off during late 2000s.

>>378376741
How contrarian do you have to be to believe that that mess of a game could be the best? 2 is defensible, absolutely, 1 is just bad.

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>>378375492
>i date you
Anon, I...

>>378377412
>muh sandbox

Gets boring when every other game is like that. Sometimes what you really want is a great linear experience with a clear beginning, middle, and end.

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It has the best JRPG protag of all time

>>378378301
1 has the best story, characters, and gameplay in the series. 2 isn't close. It seems like you'd be the contrarian here.

>>378378925
>1
>"""""""""""""""""""""story"""""""""""""""""""""""
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""characters""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Ha. EVeryone in 1 is flatter than cardboard and you know it.

>>378372809
This is easily the worst thing not in just p5 but in modern persona as a whole.

>get dialogue for unlocking every door in shidos palace

Fucking why

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>>378379107
How idiotic must a personababy be to be this delusional

>>378375216
C1 to C6 are all great. Almost all of Apocalypse's battle themes are great too

Akechi did nothing wrong

>>378368018
test

>>378379327
Less idiotic than the guy who considers a half-assed SMT the pinnacle of the series. 2 was better in every regard, yes, even combat, because positioning on such a tiny grid is useless tedium, not some deep strategy.

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It's likely the funniest game Ive ever played

>>378379563
>Half-assed SMT
You've revealed your true colors, butthurt Nocturnefags.

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>>378376741
oh fuck off, I replayed that game a few days ago and it was shit.
i liked some of the characters but none are even close to being as good as P5. Do you seriously like Nanjo, Mark, Maki or Ayase more than the cast of P5? you gotta be bulshitting.
Now if you had posted P2 then you might make a good case but as it stands you are just a stupid contrarian trying to validate a chore of a game.

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>>378379607
Yusuke's a miracle of the Universe.

Personally I don't get persona, he Eric cheesy story, generic cheesy characters, boring as piss gameplay. one single music track for 99% of the combat and another for anything out of combat how anyone could enjoy it at all, let alone 70 hours of it is beyond me, but hey, to each their own I guess.

>>378379107
Most of the P1 cast are better written and fleshed out in P2

>>378379695
Persona 5's characters are so one dimensional I couldn't even compare it to 1 on a graph.

>>378379650
>this delusion
>this delirium
I think you should go to sleep
>>378379802
Thus P2 is a game with better characters

>>378368018
You meant worst.

No. Press turn is a way better combat system that actually encourages thought based team building, line up management, and attack / defend strategies, making it a far more difficult game but also way more satisfying. Rank 10 confidants are OP as fuck, there's no challenge anywhere unless you're underleveled, and one more is such a basic system it almost makes Pokemon look thought provoking. Additionally in terms of story, it's very cliche and generic anime esque, even its darkest moments aren't that dark all things considered, and not much of it is thought provoking whatsoever.

That said, it is however one of the most well polished rpgs of the last decade. Only pokemon is comparable for the level of polish from jrpgs, and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't entertaining.

But best jrpgs ever are things like Chrono trigger, smt 2, tales of vesperia, classic FF etc. Persona 5 at its best is better than Persona 3 and 4, but the quality isn't consistent (final 2 dungeons and the pyramid namely), and all the bonuses they give you from confidants makes the game so easy it's a joke. The antagonist is also obvious as fuck again and not that great. Persona needs to start taking risks like SMT does and make some of your actual party members into enemies based on choices.

>>378379847
As someone who hasnt played Persona 1 could you give some examples as to what makes the characters so great

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>>378379902
P2 would be good if it didn't add a bunch of unnecessary bloat characters like Ulala and Baofu. The overall storyline is also less compelling compared to P1, they should've combined IS and EP into one more coherent game.

>>378379951
*tips fedora*

Persona 3 had best girl

>>378376202
Minotaur is a meme. It's good that Walter makes him harder since it teaches people to learn the ins and outs of the system. If you know how to play and build your team properly you'll still win against him 80% of the time (no matter what SMT has bullshit ohko moments where you can't do anything)

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>>378368018
That's not FFXV.

>>378368018
Dumb waifu fag

>>378368018

One of the best. Top 5 material. THE best may be pushing it.

>>378380238
this.

>>378380075
>Characters with arcs=bloat characters
>cardboard cutouts=good characters
Que?
Also, P1's storyline is dumb fucking bullshit and everyone knows it. It's just a boring excuse to raid some dungeons, and that semi-cute ill grill who's the cause of it all and seemingly your waifu doesn't make it any more compelling. You're a living meme, buddy. P2 has a great storyline with a pretty cool reason for 2 discs separation.

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>>378380000
Each character is well defined beyond fitting into a single psychological profile (this is a central theme in the game, people having more than a single personality, unlike P3-5 where a character is summarized by their Arcana). The characters, for the most part, all have compelling arcs during the story and don't remain static once they join the party. They all have distinct personality in the dialogue, by the time I got to the end of Persona 5 you could have put any bodies portrait in front of any line and you probably wouldn't notice. It's admittedly a little extreme, but I never noticed that during Persona 1 and 2.

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>>378380075
Maya and Tatsuya shit on everyone in P1 as better characters. You are a delusional P1 fag.

>>378380406
I said examples, not generalizations. I dont give a shit if you spoiler the whole game.

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>>378379951
>Pokemon
>polish

>>378380237
This. Minotaur is just RNG-heavy. King Frost and Sukuna-Hikona in Apocalypse are better casual filter

>>378380398
Yeah, because SPOOKY RUMORS and SPACE NAZIS and SPOOKY CTHULU are so much better. If you're going to argue like that then any game is shit.

>>378375503
IV also has one of the most enjoyable stories in the series, up there with II
But yea, if the dungeons are P5 (in terms of aesthetics) / #FE / SJ (in terms of layout) tier and the combat is IV press turn with a couple improvements, then V will be fantastic.

No matter what I forsee some butthurt this E3 when it's officially revealed if it's switch exclusive or multiplat.

>>378380563
But it is well polished.
It only ever gets wonky when you get to multiplayer in terms of stuff like mega Rayquaza

>>378380479
>Maya
>ditzy girl who has an interesting backstory that she completely ignores
>Tatsuya
>noncharacter until EP where he turns into an emo edge lord
Persona 2's good characters are not either of them.

>>378380568
1's themes are literally muddled overdone armchair psychology. 2 did all that fancy lovecraftian 'kino' stuff decade before bloodborne was a twinkle in the eye of its creator. Also, "SPACE NAZIS" further convinces me you haven't played it at all. Dumbass.

>>378368018
Haha, fuck no. Persona 5 is fucking fantastic and was absolutely worth all the waiting/delays, except for maybe that last one; I was really looking forward to it coming out on my birthday but it has nothing on the likes of Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VI. Hell, it's not even the best Persona game, which is still P3 in my book

>>378380564
Minotaur is still very good casual filter. He very easily stopped the Persona babies in their tracks until they learned to use non attack magic / not attack every turn.
It's just that the agi thing with a certain degree of rng meant about a fifth of the time you didn't have any chance at all. However, losing 1/5 times wouldn't be a wall, some people whined about dying 20+ times to him

>>378368018
It's the best Persona game overall

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>>378380864
>no argument
I see I've triggered you, P2fag.

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>>378380832
>Edgelord

This is bait, did we play the same game?

>>378380919
I would take a stinky shit on your book and I would close it

>>378381015
You are literally an idiot who thought I was a nocturnefag 10 posts ago. Get out of here with this shit, everybody knows you're a troll. No human being on this planet thinks P1 is seriously good.

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I haven't been spoiled yet, but I've been doing the final dungeon for a while now and it's by far the worst. Mementos wasn't that bad since I did all the requests at a nice pace, but God damn this dungeon is annoying. Loved the Casino and the Joker trick to cheat death was my favorite story turnaround since Ghost Trick. My GOTY alongside NieR and Zelda.

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>>378381025
>stalks around school trying to get his friends to remember the truth
>even though remembering will cause the universe to get Nyarlathotep 'd again
Maybe edge lord was a bit strong, but he did go pretty emo before he learned his lesson.

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>>378368018
>not FE4
In real-life role-playing there have been less than two dozen major systems published, yet Japan regularly churns out more than that in a single year! Is it any wonder they all suck? Even the most die-hard wargaming expert -- a Steve Jackson or a David Cook -- would give up if forced to come up with a brand-new battle system every six months -- what can one expect from the Japanese, whose ignorance of wargaming is only rivaled by their ignorance of role-playing?

Players who are right in the middle of a hundred-hour JRPG often have little idea of what the hell is going on -- and who can blame them, as it turns out they don't need to! They mash a button; random numbers keep flashing all over the screen; and if they happen to die at some point they simply double back, kill a couple hundred more green slimes and try again.

Not that the suckage of the system matters much, mind you, if we are talking about role-playing games. The battle system of an RPG is about as important as the story in a shooting game, and in fact the less the player is aware of it the better. But since there's no role-playing to be found in JRPGs, and since all the player ever does is direct battles, it stands to reason that the quality of the battle system becomes paramount. And this is in fact why the so-called SRPGs (the "s" standing for "simulation" in Japan (lel) and "strategy" in the West), otherwise known as Tactical RPGs are, on average, of such higher quality than JRPGs -- because their designers understand this. In fact -- and this is a point worth exploring in some detail -- excepting JRPGs with action elements and those with a heavy emphasis on side-games, there's no material difference between JRPGs and SRPGs: they are one and the same genre, and should be judged by the same exact criteria. Both types of games involve characters taking part in a series of squad-level, tactical battles, with a predetermined narrative delivered at intervals in the form cutscenes.

>>378381015
Do you think it was actually Hitler in the game? You probably did, you p1fag.

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>>378381273
>no human being on this planet with good tastes doesn't think P1 is seriously good
FTFY

>>378381397
>missing the point
I was saying that making over generalizations of any story will make it sound bad. You could do that to anything and make it look stupid, which is why you shouldn't argue along those lines.

>>378369271
While Akechi being the traitor was so disgustingly signposted, I actually really liked how the "Igor" you've been seeing and interacting with was a fake, which explains his weird new voice It was a bit of an ass pull, but I found it much easier to accept than P4's True Ending twist.

>>378371631
>>378371998
A Persona/SMT game that doesn't end with punching God in the face isn't a Persona/SMT game. I also wish there was a way to make Persona just deal with human antagonists since shoehorning in "SPOILERS: GOD IS AN ASSHOLE" at the last second ruined P4 and to some people, P5, but then you'd have to figure out how to write in how people get Persona abilities that don't involve supernatural shit and that's mission impossible right there

>>378381391
What's with icyposting tonight? Are you trying to bait someone, you bald sack of shit?
>>378381490
>a lying shadow
>"fixes" the post to tell lies
Thanks for proving my point, dude

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Does anyone else enjoy playing P5 with the camera in the close up position? Makes palaces and locations look bigger.

>>378381682
>a shadow lying
So who didn't play the games they're arguing about?

>>378368018

Not JRPG, but not counting 1 and 2, best Persona game ever.

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>>378381361
He never did that. Nyarl was fucking with him the entire time. He was trying to avoid getting people involved.

>>378380238
i genuinely cannot believe anyone would rank FFXV higher than P5.

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>>378375503
I often see people trash talk IV but i feel like it's right there with 2, strange journey, and nocturne. Really the only issue that it has going for it is that it was made on the 3ds so we didnt see a true next gen SMT during the ps3/wii/360 era. Now with SMT V I have no clue whats going to happen considering the type of game we got out of P5

>>378381586
Yaldabaoth wasnt a real god did you even pay attention speed gamer?

>>378381872
>shadows
>not lying and manipulating as fuck under the guise of "I am le truth of your heart"
you're on a roll tonight, Nyarly. shadows are shitposters and everyone knows it.

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>>378381961
>trying to avoid getting people involved
He didn't do a very good job

>>378381992
Potato, potahto. Fine, "SPOILERS: FAKE GOD WHO WANTS TO FUCK OVER HUMANITY IS AN ASSHOLE"

>>378381586
How was P4s true end an asspull?

>>378382253
How is it his fault Maya and co started investigating? He tells them to stop several times in game, they never listened.

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>>378368018
You didnt post the game with the true Yaldabaoth dumbass.

>>378381973
majority of people would
no one even knows what p5 is besides weebs

>>378381991
Both of them have flaws though. IV is horribly unbalanced and the steamrolling is too much. Main story being too easy is also a problem, though Challenge Quest and DLC are pretty fun fights

Apocalypse did wonders to the combat system by bringing in Pierce buffs and nulling weaknesses with Smirk, on War and above you have to use a lot of shit to get through even normal encounters, and the Gods are pretty cool guys, but the party get annoying fast

Also both lack interesting dungeons

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>>378382467
I didn't mean it seriously, I just wanted an excuse to post P2 art.

>>378382469
but that's just a mech

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>>378381586
Why do you have to explain them at all? The powers exist because they do

Replace this wizard with Igor and Magic with Personas

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>>378382469
still the the wrong ialdaboath.

>>378382638
Oh, thought you were that p1 fag.

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Persona Q is the best because you can marry Koromaru, also Maiko BEST GIRL

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>>378381801
So I guess I was the only one that did that. I honestly liked the camera angle more that way.

>>378382746
Igor and the antagonists only give stuff to the Wild Card and the human antagonists. Phil and Nyarly throw them around more liberally

>>378382346
P4 was a fairly interesting murder mystery story that ended with SOME GODDESS WAS CURIOUS ABOUT HUMANITY, PRETENDED TO WORK A GAS STATION, AND SHOOK SOME PEOPLE'S HANDS TO GIVE THEM SUPERPOWERS FOR LULZ

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>>378382793
literally a shittier Nanako

>>378382480
I wish this was true

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>>378382781
[Spoiler]I am [/spoiler]

>>378383009
NO! nanako is the cheap knockoff, Maiko a best

So we're in agreement, right? This thread is the best bait ever.

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Thinking of buying P5, but having doubts. Someone give me an honest rundown, please. Metacritic scores are really high, but my main concerns are the story/writing.

I also don't care much for the dating sim aspect, and I know the ending.

>>378382793
I love the part where her father tells you to get the fuck away from his daughter you pedophile fuck

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>>378383009
Nanako is the killer.

>>378383159
fuck off faggot and come up with your own opinions you normie piece of shit.

>>378370834
>People STILL think GLASS HIM could have referred to anything but smashing the dude across the face
I cannot believe retards like you can even read

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>>378382793
Wait, so this image isn't a joke?

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>>378383159
It's the epitome of average. Hard to find any faults, but it doesn't excel at anything especially if you don't like waifushit. Seems like you'd be better of waiting to buy it, if you buy it at all.

>>378382947
She and her dungeon were foreshadowed when Yu dreams about it and is taken there. She was took notice of humanity's desire for destruction. The same thing happened in P3, and to some extent P5.

>>378383159
Did you like P3, P4, or pretty much any JRPG? If so you will like P5

>>378370183
>Taking critic score seriously.
Don't forget they are the ones responsible for rating Blunder of The Wild so damn high.

>>378376353
>>378376580
Naoto is only relevant because they wrote themselves into a corner. Even then Naoto only pegs Adachi as the killer out of coincidences. He could have easily denied everything and the game would have been stuck in the mud. P4 is a horribly written mess, so please think before you type when you compare a good S.Link like Haru to that Deus Ex character.

>>378383429
No, you can even say "Society won't accept our love"

>>378383159
The story is literally edgy Codename: Kids Next Door where adults are evil and teenage high schoolers with no respect for meeting their school's dress codes can do no wrong, but it's a serviceable story with enjoyable characters and settings

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>>378383159
Dungeons are allright some of the last dungeons are kinda a slog to get through.
Game is pretty easy, but I am pleb who played on normal, so I am not sure how much higher difficulties mititgate this, even then I still had fun eventhough the combat gets kinda repetitive.
Honestly I like persona, because by the time I get sick of dungeon crawling, I can do some Sim stuff or just fuck around a bit and by the time I get sick of the sim stuff there is a new dungeon I can go through.
That perpetual loop kept me playing for days on end.
The character are allright, I like most of them despite them being kinda tropish, but I can't say the same for everyone since I just enjoy dumb anime stuff in general.
This was my experience with the game, I am not sure if it will help.

>>378368018
>A VN is the best jrpg ever
the STATE of this board opinion and this industry

>>378383621
Let's not forget the ace defective laid down a trap with herself as bait and didn't even bother to set up some cameras.

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>>378383169

>>378368018
I dunno, liked the game but was something around an 8/10 for me.

Liked most combat mechanics although some of them really broke the game.

SoL aspects were lacking in comparison to other persona games and I felt that the theme of the game was just delivered pretty heavy-handed.

Characters were a mixed bag, some of the SL were good while most of them were fairly forgettable especially Ann and Makoto.

Dungeons and Story peak too early, after Kamoshida and Madarame the designer seemed to rush everything.

I still like FF9, CT, Xenogears and Xenoblade more but I haven't played most of them in a few years so it could be nostalgia.

>>378383159

>I also don't care much for the dating sim aspect, and I know the ending.

what the fuck? don't even bother

>>378383471
P3 felt like it more naturally incorporated all the characters into the finale. They had more of a connection to the human antagonists as well as fighting off Nyx, whom everyone had personal reasons to fight outside of the obvious motivation of wanting to stop the apocalypse

>persona 1 and 2 don't have social links

dropped

>>378383621
tfw she's only a good character with her s link.

admit it, haru is shit

>>378384143
>so hype for SMT after playing P4
>no social links
>no waifu
>no comfy school stuff
>edgy stuff
>music is punk trash , no comfy pop
>artificial dificulty the game
i am glad P5 exist and i hope Persona becomes mainline because mainline is absolute trash

>>378384143
Social links are shit. I have more fun playing 1 than 3 or 4.

>>378368018
It's fantastic, the most fun I've had in years, but the JRPG renaissance of 2004-5 still have it beat.

>>378384214
>Didnt refute any of my points
Eat shit ass detective. Haru is perfect.

>>378384423
>Social links are shit.

dropped, you don't even care about the characters

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Why did you fuckers meme into playing this piece of shit? Opening cutscene is one of the edgiest shit Ive seen in years and the gameplay is shit with RANDOM FUCKING ENCOUNTERS. If an rpg has REs it is already shit in my book,

>>378384118
nyx is literally exactly the same, foreshadowed a bit at the beginning when the mc awakens his persona and Thanatos goes berserk. Strega were meme tier, with no motivations beyond being orphans who hate the world cause of being experimented on. And that's just the nature of the story, P4 was a murder mystery. P3 just followed some weird Eveangelion format with its bosses and Ryoji.

>>378383818
It's textbook cognitive dissonance. An answer to the OP with common sense >>378381391 went completely ignored.

OP should have just called it /Persona Hugbox/.

>>378384614
fuck off faggot. p4 is literally a shittier Whats New Scooby Doo.

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>>378384384
Get a load of this casual. IV is probably the only one you accurately described, even Nocturne has goofy bits and pop music in the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiHmQcHa84

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>>378384565
>you don't even care about the characters
Maybe if they were incorporated into the main plot outside of social links I would. But there's no reason for me to care about them besides the bonuses they give you. SL are not for me.

>>378384816
>canon romance
>literally not exist in the main story
P5fags are literally retarded anon
SL are basically Joker fanfiction

>>378384705
not an argument

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>>378384705
>Scooby doo
>Not jojo part 4
at least bait properly

>>378384918
I like how Door-kun's harem is canon.

>>378384982
NO DONT YOU EVER COMPARE DIAMOND IS UNBREAKABLE TO WHATS NEW SCOOBY-DOO YOU DAMN DOUBLE NIGGER

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>>378384985
too bad he's a door and they'll be finding the real chad cock. (yu)

>>378385057

What about DIU and Mystery Incorporated?

>>378384384
>shitty Jpop better than electric punk

The state of this board.

>>378385159
p5 music isnt Jpop you retarded piece of shit.

>>378384985
Why do you say that, I only remember Ai-chan and Yuka-tan getting really fucked up over his death?

>>378385245
Yeah. Now it's DDS remix with shitty vocals

>>378385384
Its literally only them and Elizabeth. A shitty harem considering Yukari moves on at the end of The Answer.

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>>378385245
Yeah, it's even worse. Bring back comfy P1-P2 soundtracks and P6 will be golden.

>>378385456
Oh shut the fuck up you musically illiterate philistine.

>>378385483
as long as it's not the god awful P1P OST I'd be down with it.

I just finished Futaba's dungeon, so far it's fun but not "best JRPG ever" fun.

>>378385483
>>378385589
So glad you asswipes arent the target audience anymore go back to your shitty 90s synthrock

>>378370834

>OST would benefit heavily from having no vocals

every single fucking vocal track has an instrumental version

it also has less vocal tracks compared to 3 and 4 by a god damn mile

fuck you

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Leave JRPGkino to me

>>378385789
Gladly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMrtrK8Xf4

>>378385789
Persona 2 did a vocal track better than anything in P3-6
https://youtu.be/wONI34aquiU

>>378385514
>>378385789
P3-5's OST is pretty much low-tier Shoji Meguro. The man peak at DDS2-SJ and that's it. Go made another thread started with RIVER IN THE DESERT like you do daily

>>378385921
Old shit my uncle probably listened to
>>378385982
sounds like shitty nigger rmb
>>378386019
b8

Is the PS3 version good enough?

I'm a ways away from a PS4

>>378370834
>>OST would benefit heavily from having no vocals
Literally the only time this is true is for the intro
Life will change benefits from starting as an instrumental the first few times

>>378383159
You probably won't like it but I'll tell you to get it anyways because I liked it and I want you to boost the sales

How is the emulation for the PC version going?

>>378386426
It runs at 720p instead of 1080.
The loadings take double that of the PS4 (takes about 6-7 seconds on PS3).
The text seemed a tad blurry compared to PS4 (in my experience).
Other than that is the same game.

What's the best choice to play Persona 4 on pc?

>>378388139
killing yourself

>>378388216
Fuck you

>>378388353
kill yourself

>>378388139
PCSX2 and undub, P4G is better though.

>>378388139

Head to Amazon or something and finding a cheap PSTV. Golden adds a bunch to the game so if you're serious about it it's worth the effort.

>>378388139
Get a pstv and hack it and get P4G for free along with most vita games.

>>378387502
thank you anon

>>378368018
Yeah, probably. If it isn't already, the "definitive" version will change that.

So, I'm up for some shitty P4 anime adaptation
Should I watch the original or the golden version?

>>378391136
golden is the shittier of the two

>>378391136
Orginal, Golden just jumps all over the place focusing mostly on the new scenes and Marie.

>>378369475
>tfw nocture was harder on hard than persona on merciless

>>378391136
neither, play the game.
both of them have terrible quality but if you had to choose one go for the original since its more coherent.

>>378391136
P4 has shitty animation, but Golden is actual shit.

>>378391136
Original, Goldens pacing is shit. Only good for a certain episodes about the culprit

That's not Xenoblade

>>378368018

Yes

>>378372578

Hittler battle theme is neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8wZfpI_QgE&t=293s

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>>378385921
Finish him

>Laughable final twist is just Nyarlathotep VS Philemon redux with zero buildup or proper introductions
Why fucking bother? Just play Persona 2.

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>>378379607
>It's likely the funniest Megaten game Ive ever played
FTFY
>>378381317
>Ghost Trick
My nigga. I spent a whole night playing it without rest.

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>>378381015

I want the Longinus 13 back

>>378391136
Original is a perfectly fine anime adaption, golden is poo though

>>378383159
Just play mainline if you don't care about the dating sim aspect.

>>378392751
Akechi is also pretty much reverse Jun

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>>378383159
Don't listen to those other anons. They're just trying to mess with you. It's a genuinely enjoyable game. If you like VNs, if you like sim games, if you like dungeon crawling with creative battles, you will like this. It's pretty comfy, and the story is well done. Give it a try.

>>378372643
>surprised he killed god
you must be new

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>>378392751
>>378393742

I wanted Nyarlathotep to come back so much but nope

But yeah, P5 is pretty much a water down P2

>>378376353
>>378376580
Naotofags everyone.