Metroidvania

Apotheon was that bad?

What about the one with the luchador and rooster and demons and stuff?

>>378365536
Apotheon was unfortunately pretty shit, yeah.
I gave it a good amount of time to redeem itself too, played through near enough 3/4 of the game before dropping it just near the end.

>What about the one with the luchador and rooster and demons and stuff?
Guacamelee?
Haven't played it. Heard it's decent but I don't like the looks of it.

>>378364896
Holy shit your taste is so fucking atrocious
>Valdis Story
Garbage
>Axiom Verge
Garbage
>Aquaria
Garbage
>Odallus
MAJOR garbage
And La Mulana isn't even that good
Fix your taste and then jab a knife in your throat, in whichever order you prefer

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>>378365926
>Ass destroyed Hollow Knight fan shits the bed

All of those games are great.

>>378364896
Almost perfect. Bring Rabi-Ribi up a tier and drop Hollow Knight down into shit-tier and you're golden.

>>378364896
did you guys see momoV get announced and subsequently turned into not a Momodora game because it was 3D

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>>378366717
Maybe I should dock it a few points for having such a laughably bad fanbase.

>>378367018
Nope must have missed that.
>3D
Absolutely disgusting. Why not just stick with 2D?

>>378366170
Valdis Story is literally the most unfair shit I've ever played. I liked it a lot, but had to put it down at the very end, all for that shitty escape session. Fuck all.

>>378366717
>Bring Rabi-Ribi up a tier and drop Hollow Knight down into shit-tier

what the fuck

Dragon Slayer II: Xanadu is the progenitor of Metroidvania.

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>terraria
>medtroidvania game
you what

>>378364896
this list is arbitrary/subjective af

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>>378367757
I can't agree with that. Sure I didn't care for the timed escape sequences either but the two that are in the game are pretty damn easy.
The end sequence in particular is overly lenient. Sounds to me like you were just panicking because you were against the clock and going overly fast, and as a result kept fucking up your platforming.

>>378368238
>Implying it isn't a metroidvania in disguise

Dead Cells is fun.

>>378365536
It's really good if you aren't bothered by memes being slathered all over the place.

>>378365926
>And La Mulana isn't even that good
Off yourself.

>>378364896
Several of these aren't even metroidvania, and your taste is atrocious

>>378365536
>Guacamelee?
>Haven't played it. Heard it's decent but I don't like the looks of it.
Decent pretty much sums it up. It's kinda charming, it has some interesting combat and platforming challenges, but nothing in it really wowed me. The world also seemed a bit weakly stitched together, which is a big no-no for metroidvania.

>>378368440
The core gameplay is so good you really have to be a massive faggot to get hung up on a few jpgs in the background.

>>378368375
How is it a metroidvania game? By that logic, every sandbox game is.

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please stop replying to this guy he makes threads just so he can bait people and post his anime reaction images

repeat: this is a bait thread made by an attention whore

>>378368647
Is he some offshoot of ACfag?

>>378364896
>I didn't enjoy Hollow Knight the post

OK.
Little sorry for you, but whatever.

>>378368375
Not really bro, I really tried it a bunch of times, but I always fucked up at some point, and if you fall once, you are fucked. I know via youtube that I was very close to the end, but the relationship ended with an unfulfiling uninstall. I did not got gud

>>378368715
dunno but he endlessly shitposts in favor of la-mulana and this marrow game that nobody has even heard of while shitting on rabi-ribi and hollow knight, and he constantly uses the same reaction images and typing style

move on and don't feed him please

>>378368827
To be fair, Rabi-Ribi is not very good and only gets a pass for having cute girls.

>>378368749
>HK in good
>didn't enjoy
are you, by chance, a faggot?

>Shantae nowhere in sight

Opinion discarded

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>>378364896
>Terraria
I like terraria, but nigga that ain't a metroidvania

IT'S THE METROIDVANIA THREAD ANIMEPOSTER SHITPOSTER
DON'T FUCKING REPLY YOU RETARDS.

>>378364896
>bunny must die in great tier with those controls
Yeah no.

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>>378368607
>By that logic, every sandbox game is.
Not really. Terraria is unique in that aspect. I wouldn't consider Starbound a Metroidvania or Minecraft.

The way Terraria is structured has it sharing many similarities with metroidvania's. It invokes the same feeling of progression as well and certain areas cannot be accessed without certain things (and I'm talking about more than just a different pick to mine shit before you ask).

>>378368647
What a cringe worthy post. Get the fuck out of my thread if you don't like it.

>>378369124
I've got most of them but haven't played them yet other than the first game. Which I didn't really care for.

>>378368827
"la-mulana fag" is a persona used by an especially livid ribi-rabi faggor who shitposted in hk threads just before "la-mulana fag" mysteriously appeared. r-r faggot was absolutely autistic and everybody hated him so, suddenly, in one of the threads he mysteriously stops posting at the same time as his posts are attacked by this mysterious autist with love for l-m. From that moment on r-r fag was never heard from again, despite shitposting in every thread previously. There are 2 distinct possibilities - he changed faces or committed suicide. I pine for latter, but it's probably the former.

>>378364896
>look up marrow
>all time peak players: 2

so you made this game right?

>>378364896
>Someone other than me played Environmental Station Alpha
Bullshit I don't believe you.

>>378368947
I legitimately enjoyed it in spite of the fact that it tries so hard to push the cute girls fanservice angle it ends up suffering for it with all the dialogues being utter trash.

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>>378364896
I dont think you're being genuine with that image OP

I don't even like hollow knight, but good luck discussing the flaws now that this autist has given people a kneejerk reaction to criticism

>>378369382
So ACfag had a son?

>>378369498
My thoughts exactly.

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Fuck off, this is my shitposting territory.

Reminder Hollow Knight is GOTY and best 2d game ever made

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>>378369498
No, the game is just both not very well known and incredibly difficult, so much so that the majority of people who have posted about it cannot even make it to the second save point, which is fucking embarrassing considering I made it there on my first try.

>>378369540
>Implying
I played it forever ago because that one guy kept shilling it.

>>378369680
Now why would go and say something like that, anon?

>>378369540
I played ESA, followed it since development blogs were a thing, and hempuli seems like he has a lot of good ideas for improving the second one which is in development. I did everything except boss rush on challenge mode because 10 HP was not enough.

>>378369589
Yeah, the gameplay in Rabi-Ribi is great, but the dialogue was really incomprehensible cute girls doing cute things xD nonsense that could have gone away without the game losing anything from it.

>>378369589
The level design is just so bland and the traversal so uninteresting. If I'm gonna put up with a shitty artstyle and awful characters for good action gameplay and exploration, I'll play that furry Gust game.

>>378369361
Literally the only two areas in terraria that can't be accessed without fulfilling prior conditions are the dungeon and the lihzahrd temple

>>378369382
This is honestly sad. Some people take shitposting way too seriously.

>>378364896
is this bait?

>>378369745
i wonder if galious will get a remake similar to la mulana
thatd be neat, i guess

>>378369837
>No, the game is just both not very well known and incredibly difficult, so much so that the majority of people who have posted about it cannot even make it to the second save point, which is fucking embarrassing considering I made it there on my first try.

Is it actually good though?

>>378370095
do you really need to ask that

>>378370127
Kind of yea, there's no videos of it on youtube other than the trailer so

>>378369913
No wait, it was called Dust.

>>378369136
> dat ending
did not expected that
there goes my sides

@378364896
>Terraria
>Metroidvania

I'm not even going to dignify this with a (you) or a reaction image, that shit tier MMO grinding simulator has exactly nothing in common with a Metroidvania.

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>>378370252
Oh shit, you know what I forgot all about Dust.

I'll have to update my list to put it in Mediocre tier.

I say that as somebody who 100%'d that shit too. I cannot believe my tolerance for such shitty games can be so high just for the promise of more good music which didn't even end up coming.


I got tricked hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFckFUqYxU&index=6&list=PLlvXGetzr0FBSC6xKTJY8H9UX8-YIgNVh

This is one of the first tracks that played in the game. It's pretty fucking solid for such a dull game.

>>378370459
Hey fuck you. It's definitely not a Metroidvania but it's sure as shit not shit tier.

>>378370459
>terraria
>shit

neck yourself

Has anyone played Phoenotopia ?
It's kinda like Cave Story. It's a flash game but I think it took me like ten hours to beat it.

>>378370630
That's fair, really. The moment a VN character portrait pops up in Metroidvania, I immediately check out mentally. That shit is a fucking cancer.

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Subtle Marrow shilling?

>>378371348
>subtle

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>>378370095
>>378371348

It's fucking excellent.
However my opinion of it has been soured considering it seems to have permanent missables in it.
Permanent missables can fuck right off.

I don't even know if I'm going to continue on through the game because of it. That shit has triggered the fuck out of me.

Give Maze of the Galious a try.

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>>378371841
Pretty sure I've tried multiple times. I think that's the game which has the escape button turn the game off instead of like pausing or something.

Long story short, I kept hitting escape every now and then and couldn't break the habit so I had to drop it.

I'll try give it another go in the future though.

>>378364896
>terraria up there that high while rabi-ribi is bottom feeder tier
Whatever, I played all but the most recent terraria update and regrinded it every single time for each update and the game is still good but definitely not up there.

I bet u hate RR because reddit told you so.

>>378364896
Rabi-Ribi is literally a better game than Salt & Sanctuary, so this list is wrong.

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>>378372440
Indeed indeed, you got me anon. I hate sexualizing anime characters.
What sort of degenerates would do such a thing?

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>>378372931
Umm, no sweetie, that simply isn't true.
Salt & Sanctuary has Rabi Ribi beat in artstyle, atmosphere, gameplay, character customization, exploration and music even though S&S only has like 3 'tracks' which are about 15 seconds long and consist of nothing but some shitty little guitar riff because rabi ribi's music is just that god awful.

>>378369715
They are indeed similar, even if I haven't been in an argument with l-m fag (i love the game and know better than to fuel an autismo). ACfag is probably still worse since he could shitpost in a much wider variety of threads, while this one is practically locked to metroidvanias and summoned by praise given to hk.

>>378373694
u

Where the FUCK (the fuck) is An Untitled Story

La Mulana 2 is coming out in NEVER EVER

>>378364896
>check out steam page for "Marrow"
>came out last year
>no rating, just 7 user reviews
Did some dev make this image?

>>378373871
how new are you, this guy has been shitting up shmup, ys, trails, vita, danganronpa and who knows what other threads for years now
be glad this is the first time you've ran into him, he kills threads dead with his attentionwhoring

>>378373694
>artstyle
Anime > generic western gray and brown garbage. There are literally no good character designs in S&S
>atmosphere
Both games have a shit atmosphere. Being a blatant Dark Souls spinoff is not helping its case and it's not even good at doing that.
>gameplay
That's not true. Rabi-Ribi has better gameplay than S&S could ever have. Better battle animations, too, and graphic effects in the middle of fights. The experience is comprehensive.
>character customization
It's not done well in S&S. Everything feels either the same or one thing is blatantly better than another. The 2D movement system is partially at fault since there's not as much room to make different kinds of weapon attack patterns and the like. These games don't need customization so much.
>exploration
I've seen S&S. It's not good with exploration, and what you do get to "explore" is the same drab garbage you've seen a million times before.
>music
lol. Rabi-Ribi has one of the best OSTs in Metroidvania history.

I normally am not baited by such weak trolling but I would like to take this opportunity to extol the virtues of Rabi-Ribi because it is a legitimately great game.

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>>378374178
Delete this post right fucking now.
It'll be coming soon, people have told me it's coming soon, it's this year for sure this time. I know it was supposed to come out in 2015, then early 2016 then late 2016 then early 2017 but it's coming SOON this time. Just fucking watch.

>>378374201
Loving this hot new spicy meme already.

>>378364896
Odallus isn't even a metroidvania. It's stage based.

>>378374348
I knew he supposedly had aa pseudo-trip, but I never ran into him before, despite being on the site for some time. Sorry for being underinformed. I do not post in dgr and vita threads, those are usually dumpster fires, and I've only started on Falcom games this time.

>>378368105
Probably no one actually drew inspiration from it though, they probably just made it up on their own or grabbed it from Metroid

>>378374716
*this year.

>>378374178
Chasm is coming out in NEVER EVER 2

>>378364896
>Terraria
Its nothing like a metroidvania, you might as well have fucking Minecraft on that list as well.

>>378374535
Since you're a Rabifag, when does the game get good? I just got to the town and it's been incredibly shitty with it's railroading and dialogue so far.

>>378369745
Put ecclesia in your dumb list already

>>378374610
Literally THIS SUMMER

>>378374917
not him but once you get to the town the railroading really stops and you can go a ton of places, it's pretty bad about it at the start unless you go the 0% route and dodge picking up items

some stuff is still locked off but you have a lot of options for where to go, and even more if you abuse secret movement options

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>>378364896
>Metroidvania thread
>"Don't post the good ones!"

>>378374995
Never.

>>378374917
Immediately after that, the game opens up and you can go most anywhere.

The story is complete ass, but you shouldn't be playing this game because of the story. The most "story" you'll be encountering from now on is short little snippets here and there at the chapter beginnings and endings (and the final boss), but that's it.

>>378375127
Do the designs get any less generic moeshit? Do the environments get more interesting than not at all?

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Anyone else tried this? It was very polished for a fangame.

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>>378374535
>Anime > generic western gray and brown garbage. There are literally no good character designs in S&S
Literally false. Every single boss in S&S has an interesting design that shits over the generic as fuck looking rabi ribi characters.

>Both games have a shit atmosphere. Being a blatant Dark Souls spinoff is not helping its case and it's not even good at doing that.
Nope, Rabi-Ribi has a non existent atmosphere but S&S has a decent one. Just because it ripped off souls does not detract from that fact.

>That's not true. Rabi-Ribi has better gameplay than S&S could ever have. Better battle animations, too, and graphic effects in the middle of fights.
>Rabi-Ribi
>Better animations

lol what, the animations are pure trash though.
The main character in Salt & Sanctuary may be animated like shit but the bosses have enough animation to shit on what Rabi Ribi has going for it.

>Everything feels either the same or one thing is blatantly better than another.
A great sword and a one handed sword are completely different though. Nevermind adding in things like chains, bows, throwing weapons, spears and magic.

>I've seen S&S. It's not good with exploration, and what you do get to "explore" is the same drab garbage you've seen a million times before.
>Explore an area
>It looks the same and doesn't abruptly change but still rewards you all the same with actual interesting things like new spells / weapons / armor
>Trying to imply that this is somehow bad

>lol. Rabi-Ribi has one of the best OSTs in Metroidvania history.
Rabi Ribi factually has one of the worst OSTs in metroidvania history. It's pure garbage.

>>378364896
>la Mulana as "the pinaccle of the genre'
Stopped reading here. Filling your game with cryptic bullshit is terrible design.

>>378375401
>designs
Why did you buy the game if you didn't expect it to be styled like this, anon

>environments
Let's list them:
>Forest, Night Forest, and Dreamlike Alice-in-Wonderland Forest
>Beach
>Egyptian Pyramid
>Rocky Canyon and Cliff area
>Park
>Graveyard
>Bigass Sky Castle
>Library
>The Matrix
>Secret Laboratory
>Partially-flooded ruins
>Dank Cave
>Lava-filled Cavern
>The Big City
>Snowy Tundra
>Deep-Winter Snowstorm
>Some sort of strange winter mountain fortress
>Underwater caves

If you don't like any of them then you're reaching for things to dislike.

>>378375926
S&S has a shit atmosphere. Just because you like it doesn't mean it's good. It's generic, boring, drab, an-

No. Everything you're saying is just subjective and indicative of shit taste. There is no point in arguing with someone like you.

no
yes
>>378375926
your ears are full of shit

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>>378375996

>>378375996
Taking notes is enough to carry you through all the puzzles. Feck off

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>>378376143
>Get blown the absolute fuck out when your wall of text gets completely dismantled and picked apart
>"I d-d-don't want to play any more!"

You cannot make this shit up, kek.

>>378375401
Listen nigga. That first section of the game you've played? That's all you're getting throughout the entirety of Rabi Ribi. More locations that look like shit, more generic moeblob garbage bosses and that's literally all.

>>378376403
taking notes is literally not enough for the sequence where you have to go see xelpud and send him to the shrine of the mother, it's nonsensical

same issue with mulbruk giving you the book of the dead

>>378376524
>brainlet thinking his claims are worth bothering with

You require logic to be worth debating. You don't have any. You only have opinions, which are shit.

And reaction images, which only serve to underscore your fuming buttrage.

>>378369745
>Tomba
>Metroidvania

>>378376592
he literally sends you a "come, see me" mail, dumb-o

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>>378376592
Xelpud literally tells you to go see him if you ever get stuck. Now granted most times he won't tell you shit for that thing you're stuck on, it was still extremely self explanatory that you'd need him at some point.

>Not stopping by and listening to Xelpud and Mulbruk every so often to get clues and shit.
You only have yourself to blame and yes taking notes are enough to get through the game since I did just that and never used a guide.

Get good shitter.

>>378376738
>Comes into my thread bawwing his eyes out
>Tries to debate me
>Gets intellectually crushed
>Tries to save face
>Calls me mad

Tip top kek

>>378377029
>he does it again
Don't make me repeat myself.

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>>378377113
Repeat yourself all you want, it's not going to change the truth and I'll just keep reminding you of that every time you do lel

>>378364896
Ori, Hollow, Cave Story that low

Axiom that high, lol terraria a rogue like

Shit list for literal children

>>378365926
>grrr look at me I dislike things!

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>>378377310
>Ori, Hollow, Cave Story that low
All in their rightful position.

>Axiom that high
/v/'s autistic hate for this game is pure comedy kino. I had more fun with Axiom Verge than I did with any pure Metroid game.

Call the cops, I don't give a fuck.

>>378377310
Cave story is a nice little platformer with extremely light exploration. Don't kid yourself, it's charming and important, but not great.
Ori is fucking horrible, a shitty platformer that /v/ rims 24/7 due to graffix, which are not even that good honestly.

>>378377283
That's literally a line for yourself, anon.

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>>378377668
It's not though, it's all for you sweetie.

>>378377663
Also this. Sums up my opinions on those two games quite well.

>>378377921
Every time you use a reaction image to coddle your sad, lonely opinions, you make the situation sadder for yourself.

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>>378378014
>Getting visibly upset over images
LOL

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>>378374874
Chasm has just reached alpha so I think it should hit early access in no time.

>>378378364
>bullet hell bosses
god damn it, and I used to think this game might be good

>>378378636
Shit taste detected.
Bullet Hell bosses are great.

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>>378378364
I remember being pretty fuckin' excited for Chasm a while back. It's taken so long though, I've become more interested in other metroidvania's that are coming out now.

Don't get me wrong, I hope it is actually good but my experience with games that get delayed this fucking long has shown me that they never turn out good which is why the "delaying a game is a good thing!" meme doesn't work for me.

>>378378364
Why is La-Spelankulana head in this game?

>>378364896
>Salt and Santuary
>God tier
If S&S is somehow god tier, then the non Metroid-Castlevania games must really suck then.

>>378378178
>lol u mad
Salt & Sanctuary is a shit game. No amount of manufactured smugness is going to validate you.

>>378367757
Valdis Story is godlike. I don't even remember the escape sequence being difficult. The hard part was s ranking bosses for the good bonuses.

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>>378379056
Salt & Sanctuary is great and shits on actual awful metroidvanias like Rabi Ribi.

>>378379086
Valdis Story has such a good combat system. Such a shame that the majority of /v/ are shitters that cannot get good.

>>378379368
Salt & Sanctuary is boring. Literally, its gameplay is uninteresting. It shamelessly rips off Dark Souls and cashes in on that meme despite being average in terms of gameplay and one of the most boring games of all time visually. Everything has the awful gray color scheme and lacks any kind of soul at all.

Rabi-Ribi > Shit & Sanctuary

>>378364896
>Marrow
>7 steam reviews
Stop shilling your own game

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>>378379538
Left side
>Pixelated mess
>0 detail in the backgrounds
>Multiple clashing art styles that do not match at all
>Trash looking boss
>0 atmosphere

Right Side
>Cohesive art direction that does what it set out to do
>Detailed boss and background
>Intimidating and unique looking boss
>Oozes atmosphere even from a simple image

Hmm, really makes me think.

>>378380206
Everything on the right side looks like a blurry monochromatic mess. There's no color contrast, no sense of depth to the background. Nothing at all. The boss looks like it's a fucking paper cutout photoshopped into the scene. Rabi-Ribi, on the other hand, knows how to use colors, and doesn't fill up 20% of the play area with the characters.

The entirety of Salt & Sanctuary is about this boring-ass world where everything has gone to shit. The ruined world trope was bad in Souls and it's even worse here, especially because other games have done it better in the past.

>but I like Dark Souls
Momadora does it better
>but I like post-apoc/ruined worlds
Then go play a game that actually does right by the trope like Fallout or some shit. Better than "everything is shit now. Hope you like it lol."
>but the atmosphere
There is no fucking atmosphere in S&S. Go play Castlevania. SotN is what you should be playing.
>c-customization
Literally. Any. Other. Metroidvania. S&S never lets you have any fun. There's no weapons designed for their own sake. When you play Castlevania and you get some whacky shit like the Shield Rod or the Crissaegrim or the Skeleton-Laser, and it's not even effective, that's when you know that the game actually was designed with fun in mind and not just mindless stat-grinding slog like S&S is.


Y'know what? Not even Rabi-Ribi. DEAD CELLS does a better job at everything S&S tries and fails to do and it's a fucking early access title for fuck's sake.

>>378380206
Haha, seriously, anon. If you were trying to debate someone, you could have used a picture of S&S that doesn't have such fucking atrocious vignietting and feel like it came straight out of Sasuke's 5th grade Chuunibyo-themed notebook.

I mean, not like that pic of Rabi-Ribi looks any better but at least you can see all of the play area.

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>>378379878
>Everything on the right side looks like a blurry monochromatic mess.
Time to get your eyes checked, there is no blur.
>There's no color contrast
>Rabi Ribi image is clearly more at fault here

>no sense of depth to the background.
So the fireplace looks to be on the same layer as the background to you? The game is far more layered than Rabi Ribi, it's not even debatable.

>The entirety of Salt & Sanctuary is about this boring-ass world where everything has gone to shit. The ruined world trope was bad in Souls and it's even worse here, especially because other games have done it better in the past.
And the entirety of Rabi Ribi is about meeting generic moeblob characters that want to fight you for the most retarded of reasons.

>Momadora does it better
It doesn't though.

>Then go play a game that actually does right by the trope like Fallout or some shit. Better than "everything is shit now. Hope you like it lol."
I've played those though, they're not metroidvania's and besides Underrail does it better than all of them.

>SotN is what you should be playing.
>SoTN
>Atmosphere

L M A O

>that's when you know that the game actually was designed with fun in mind and not just mindless stat-grinding slog like S&S is.
There is no grind in S&S though. You're god awful if you needed to grind in this shit.

>Y'know what? Not even Rabi-Ribi. DEAD CELLS does a better job at everything S&S tries and fails to do and it's a fucking early access title for fuck's sake.
Dead Cells looks like pure trash though. S&S does everything it does but better.

>>378380862
>So nervous that he double posts and pretends it's not him.
Embarrassing. Just goes to show how much faith you have in your own words.

>>378380206
what does it make you think about?

>>378381549
>rabi ribi image more at fault
It's not. The colors for the characters and the backgrounds are distinct. This is the case in almost every boss fight in the game, unlike what seems to be S&S fucking it up again.
>fireplace is on the same layer
Yes, actually. That is what it looks like.
>moeblobs that want to fight you for retarded reasons
And the S&S bosses don't have a reason either. I never attempted to say Rabi Ribi had any story of worth.
>it doesn't though
It does. The atmosphere is borrowed, but expanded upon and made its own, unlike S&S, which is basically a 1:1 carbon copy of Souls. It even creates a counterbalance to it by showing to the player what other parts of the world besides the shithole most of the game takes place in.
>Underrail does it better
That it does. I hate FO. Both games do it better than S&S and use it as more than an excuse for the trigger-happy violence of the general populace.
>shitposting about SotN's atmosphere
Go ahead. No one believes you.
>There's no grind in S&S though
Posts earlier you talk about backtracking and going through areas again for new spells, weapons, and armor, which is literally grinding.
>Dead Cells looks like trash
We'll have to wait for the final verdict, but it's better than S&S already.

>replying to the wrong post

>>378381549
I liked sns and I think Dead Cells is fantastic.

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No love for this game? Pretty underrated.

fuck off MaZe

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Let's not forget that Rabi Ribi has no difficulty what so ever either.
Since Rabi-Ribi likes to pretend it's a shmup, let's compare it to an actual shmup and we'll even make it completely fair by comparing the stage 1 bosses in both games.

Are these casual shitters even trying?

>>378382385
Makes me think of complicated things, like how somebody could actually be retarded enough to claim that the left image looks good while the right looks bad.

>>378382475
>The colors for the characters and the backgrounds are distinct.
Distinctly lacking, yes. Looks like something some guy whipped together in paint in under 2 minutes.

>Yes, actually. That is what it looks like.
Then you have shouldn't be speaking of depth when you're clearly uneducated on what it means.

>And the S&S bosses don't have a reason either.
They don't need a reason. They're monsters.

>It does
It doesn't. They pull of atmosphere about equally. Momodorara simply goes about it in its own unique way. Apparently you think because S&S copied the Dark Souls atmosphere that it suddenly means it's not atmospheric which is pure comedy gold.

>That it does. I hate FO. Both games do it better than S&S and use it as more than an excuse for the trigger-happy violence of the general populace.
And again, both games are not metroidvania's.

>Go ahead. No one believes you.
Oh no, whatever will I do? I'm usually always getting /v/'s approval how do I handle this strange new situation?

>Posts earlier you talk about backtracking and going through areas again for new spells, weapons, and armor, which is literally grinding.
LOL
Holy shit that legitimately made my kek my ass off.
>Exploring and finding new items and spells is grinding now

Grinding is the act of doing something over and over and over again. Backtracking to pick up something you couldn't get earlier is not grinding my uneducated friend.

>We'll have to wait for the final verdict, but it's better than S&S already.
It really isn't

>>378369124
I love Shantae man, but they barely qualify as Metroidvanias other than in the sense that you collect items/powers to proceed. The best one in the series, Pirate's Curse, is almost totally linear.

Woah I do agree that rabi ribi is shit but that's some obsessive hatred you have for a game. Get checked for autism.

>>378365536
I'm playing Apotheon right now and I like it. Nice change of pace compared to other 2D action games because it has nice physics so enemies are flung by forceful impacts and such

>>378383539
>opinion
>opinion
>opinion
>about equally
That's laughable. S&S is the same grotesque beast, obviously-evil spirit, or robust/noble humanoid warrior every single boss fight. If it copies Souls well (which you argue it does), where is the O&S fight? Where is the Gwyn? Where is the fantastic use of its own lore to create a visually stunning illusory cityscape? Where is the thematic use of a common element like fire? (Salt? No. The game doesn't do anything with it). The game's main selling point is literally just the fact that it's like Souls. The fucking WIKI even admits it. Momodora has a voice of its own.
>both games are not metroidvania's
Plurals don't have apostrophes, for one. For two, the whole reason they're mentioned is that they actually do something with their setting in a way S&S does not.
>shitposting
>shitposting
>grinding
One, you didn't say "backtracking with new abilities" earlier. Two, that is a point in the game's detriment because it's just padding the game with things to go backtrack through a bland-as-fuck environment (for the opposite, see any Castlevania with its beautiful artwork and great Gothic art direction).
>opinion

Use logic, not just opinions. S&S a shit only the most hungry of soulsfags will eat up.

And, lastly, that top screenshot is from the tutorial. What a fucking retarded post.

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>>378383952
>Let the shills keep spreading misinformation about their dogshit games.
Nah how about we don't do that.

great work guys. this was the worst metroidvania thread i've ever seen on /v/

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>>378384728
>this was the worst metroidvania thread i've ever seen on /v/
you should search MD5 any of the images that the guy shitting on Rabi-Ribi while spamming smug anime pics and has posted in the archive
you are in for a surprise

Should i play Hollow knight? how does it compare to Salt& Sanctuary?

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Bunny.

>>378385276
>Should i play Hollow knight?
yes, ignore the shitposter

>>378385061
Holy shit.
>278 results for just one of the images
>bislut
>"I'm not a degenerate"
>DeS, BB, AND DaS3 over DaS
>Futabafag

Okay, I know what kind of person this is now. I'm sorry I ever let myself get baited.

>>378385329
Is that box literally slanted?

>>378385276
hollow knight has a few objective issues
>getting around is a real chore a lot of the time
>there aren't enough notches for the amount of charms you get, so you can't play a lot of different ways (this is made even worse by the fact that you need a 1-notch charm to even see where you are on the map)
>losing currency on death was lifted from dark souls but doesn't work well with the type of game hollow knight is, it's just annoying
>occasional performance issues

it's not a bad game though

>>378385329
get outta here mikan

shadow complex

>>378385434
here's the redpill:
He's some autist from /jp/ who's in the top something of players in some touhou game with the name MaZe, he has a inhuman ego and believes that anyone who isn't as good as him is casual and his opinion holds no value
He enters any thread about a game he doesn't likes and replies with anime and 2hou images always acting ironically as if he was right like HK and Rabi-Ribi

>>378385406
Ty, have a (you)
>>378385461
Thanks for pointing out some things i might have an issue with the game, i'll try it and see how it goes, thanks.

>>378364896
Salt and Sanctuary is shit m8

>>378385736
oh yeah i've seen this faggot before

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>>378369136

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>>378385736
Well I've certainly been taken for a ride.

I genuinely enjoy ALL the games in that list
get on my level

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>>378384650
>Tries to argue earlier
>Gets blown the fuck out
>Goes to take a breather
>Comes back
>Tries his luck again
>Can't even address the points in my post again

What's the matter, do you lack the stamina to even debate back?


>That entire first section of your post
Pure. Comedy. Gold.
First of all you complain that S&S is a 1 to 1 copy of Dark Souls and has no unique identity, then you start bawwing because it isn't enough like Dark Souls.

What's the matter sweetie? Did you break?

>For two, the whole reason they're mentioned is that they actually do something with their setting in a way S&S does not.
They're still not metroidvania's. They're more story driven. S&S is not, its setting does not need to be expanded on. It does what it needs to do.

>One, you didn't say "backtracking with new abilities" earlier. Two, that is a point in the game's detriment because it's just padding the game with things to go backtrack through a bland-as-fuck environment (for the opposite, see any Castlevania with its beautiful artwork and great Gothic art direction).

>Backtracking
>A negative in a metroidvania
Lmfao

>Use logic, not just opinions.
>He says when he blatantly tried to imply that the fireplace in the previous screenshot with S&S in was in the same layer as the background

>And, lastly, that top screenshot is from the tutorial. What a fucking retarded post.
It's from the first boss. Don't even try to lie.
If every first boss is a tutorial then the same rings true for the image on the right.

Your casual shitfest of a game is a joke and as are you.

>>378365536
The classical greek art style looks awesome stationary. It looks terrible in motion.

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>>378385736
What is /jp/ even for? Try to discuss Japanese culture there and dumbass janitors lock your thread.

>>378386260
/jp/ is for containing the most autistic poseurs on 4chan

>>378386549
looking at this thread and all the other he has ruined, it clearly failed

>>378385736
I'm a sick fuck when it comes to watching autists on this site, something about seeing them always interests me.

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>>378386772
>abloo bloo bloo waaah w-why is he allowed to call me out my games for being trash
>He says while in my thread

Cry more you casual faggot.

>>378369745
Maybe specify the PSP version of SoTN for technicalities sake?

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>Rabi ribi faggot eternally blown the fuck out.
Okay so who wants to volunteer to take his place, we've still got a good 300+ posts left.
Where are all the HK fags, at least they have the stamina and backbone to not tuck tail this quickly.

Preferably looking for a non shitter who can actually play video games well.

In the meantime, feel free to marvel at my perfect pacifist against Ichirin.

https://my.mixtape.moe/ubanfz.mp4

>>378388046
>Ichirin
Zzzz wake me up when you "perfect pacifist" Shou.

>>378386772
Maybe threatening to move all VN (including EOVN), seiyuu, and jap music threads to /jp/ will help

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>>378388257
>Implying you didn't enjoy that flawless KKS timeout

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>>378389051
You'll get it some day, MaZe-kun. You wouldn't be the best in the west if you couldn't, right?

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>>378389857
Of course.
If I actually tried I could get it. I've not been playing much 2hu though recently.

>>378390521
Old age retirement imminent.

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>>378364896
>people told me Bunny must die is a Metroidvania
>expect a Metroidvania
>get a bullet hell game
I'm casual, I'm sorry

>>378364896
>cave story
>just good

fling yourself from a bridge

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>>378391228
It's fun though.
Shit I really need to update this image actually. It's years out of date.

>>378391236
But that's exactly what it is. Just good.

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See you fuccbois same time tomorrow.

these are some real shitty ranks for these dustforce stages
you should have gotten good

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>>378394463
I'm pretty sure I legitimately have better ranks on my vita in some stages than I do on steam.

Either way though, I just wanted to get the achievement since I pirated the game first and S ranked everything on the pirated version.

I did the same thing with La-Mulana. Pirated it and 100%'d it but then just bought it on steam since I enjoyed it.
See pic related.