which game has the better heroes? Dota 2 or Overwatch?

>best game ever made vs. worst game this generation
Hmm, tough contest.

>>378352294

dota, not even close desu.

>>378352294

What do you fucking think, Dota has way more unique heroes (golem, dragons, centaurs, glowing farts) in addition to humans, overwatch is just robots and humans

>>378352294
There are more voice lines for a Dota character than 5 Overwatch characters combined. They also have banter between eachother.
More characters.
Better lore.
Better game.

What do you think, OP?

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>>378352294
The one thing Overwatch got better is the character models, for now

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>>378352294

I like how the comparison isn't between the two MOBAS anymore.

Has league BTFO every game that competed with it into submission so hard that nobody can even warrant a comparison anymore?

I know DOTA was the original but League made the genre superior, more popular and more money than any game ever created.

>>378352294
A literal cosmetic simulator vs the one of the most competitive games of this gen, tough call

>>378353160
ahahaha holy shit leaguefags are delusional go back to /vg/

only underage play LOL now

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dota but I don't really know why you would compare them. it's more proper to compare dota to league or hots or something

>>378353160
Here's your reply :)

>>378352294

dota 2, indeed overwatch has a pudge with a shotgun.

>>378353209
Nothing I said was wrong. League is a superior game to DOTA 2 and there isn't anything to prove otherwise.

You know your game sucks when you are matched with russians and hungarians in basic quick matches.

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>>378353226
>level 12 at 60
pls explain, I don't follow esports that much

>>378353160
dota_enable_obvious_bait 1

>>378353412
Russians have better taste then Chinese. Aren't you supposed to be working in your factory right now?

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>>378353490
he's bad

>>378353490
at 60min you should at least get lvl22 if you play a pos5 aka the support-who-no-farm.
tldr it's extremely low, especially in the pro-scene

dota has some of the most uninspired character designs in any game in history.

half the roster sounds almost exactly the same.
every heroes design was stolen from another source.

this is a shitty bait thread.

>>378352483
>best game ever made
you had enough vodka today Ivan

>>378353728
fuck off Blizzdrone

>>378353595
You don't even get matched with Chinese and Koreans because it has a big enough NA playerbase I would never even come across one.

DOTA 2 it's the norm though. On top of the regular hour long matches makes for a very, very bad gaming experience.

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>>378353680
fucking hell, I hope that's an old clip

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>>378353226
>replacing the previous record which he also held
This will never not be hilarious

>>378353837
So I get matched with 10 year olds and normies? Cool.

>>378353807
>>378353728

He has a point here as EVERY Dota 2 hero is based of a Warcraft model and kit in the original DOTA game which was built on the Warcraft 3 engine.

So no you cannot even compare DOTA 2's characters to Blizzards or Riots as they are original character designs.

Whereas DOTA 2 has zero original ones as they just built off what was already there with the Warcraft models.

>>378352294
doesn't dota have a spider you can play as?

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>>378354075

League of legends has the superior spider.

Dotaboys can't even compete!

>>378354039
>EVERY Dota 2 hero is based of a Warcraft model
wrong
> and kit in the original DOTA game which was built on the Warcraft 3 engine.
>dota 2 heroes use the same "kit", nice league term, that their dota 1 counterparts did
dumbest shit i've heard today.

ssbm

>>378354039

name one original character of blizzard than dont steal nothing from anyone book or other game.

>>378354039
And Blizzard stole everything from Warhammer.

Keep saying dumb shit.

>>378354206

Have you played DOTA? you know a custom warcraft 3 gametype?

Or did you just start on DOTA 2?

>>378354205
and who is that next to the spider?

>>378354359
Technically they did not stole. they were developing Warhammer game from the start.

>>378354374
I played wc3 for 9 years you retarded shit. you have no argument or point.

>>378354302
>>378354359
A reference from something else is a bit different that making something off an already existing model.

More than one stage of thought is involved in what they did with the Warcraft/warhammer than DOTA team building characters off the warcraft models.

Yeah Starcraft and Warcraft were originally supposed to be Warhammer games. But Warhammer lore is so fucking off the wall that it is not even worth comparing the two.

Also warhammer didn't invent Orcs, Elves, Space Marines, Demons or any of the other shit they made.

Everything between both are based of something else.

>>378354359
Besides, WC3 and SC2 tried to feel less like Warhammer and more original.

>>378354075
Dota has:

Spider, like, full beast bait.
Ball of universal energy
Totally-not-nerubian who controls time
Eldritch demons
Bunch of waifus
Fucking Ent
Flying toxic lizard
Former banana, now a lizard
Drakes
Dragons
Old farts
>Beastmen
Pile of rocks

>>378354751
Dota has no waifus. All female characters in this game are shit tier.

>>378354532
DOTA 2 is probably still functions exactly the same as it did 45 years ago.

All of the DOTA characters are warcraft models, all of the DOTA 2 characters are based off those but changed to avoid copyright problems. Most of them are intentionally shit to sell cosmetics.

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the fun stops here

>>378352294
>overwatch
>1 (one) truly balanced hero : Reinhardt
>the rest are either useless or overpowered

>>378354481

>that excuse

god blizzdrones are so autist.

>>378354751

All originally warcraft models.

>>378354949
I am not even a blizzboy. I just stated the fact.

>>378354854
Yeah, just check how /v/ obsesses over Enchantress, Lina vs Rylai and the rest of the cast.

Also gay porn over Slark.

>>378354860
>All of the DOTA characters are warcraft models
technically incorrect, but no shit retard
>all of the DOTA 2 characters are based off those but changed to avoid copyright problems.
no shit
>Most of them are intentionally shit to sell cosmetics.
wrong and irrelevant

>>378354751
>Former banana, now a lizard
Kinda like DKC3 banana birds?

>>378354860
>>378354957

>All of the DOTA characters are warcraft models
>All originally warcraft models.

Depends on what you mean. Not all DOTA models are original models from WC3. For example PL has a custom model.

>>378354949
>>378354481

Also dumbass Warhammer thought that Miniatures and painting them was the future.

So hilarious, if they went with the games they would be an absolute uncontested monopoly instead they are just a bunch of stupid assholes ripping people off with resin model kits and paint.

Fucking dumbasses.

>>378354957
Yes, and?

>>378354957

show me the name are all that warcraft model original and not tolkien copys pastes.

does all dota fanboyism stem from anti-league of legends sentiment?

its like everyone who loves dota has something to prove.

>>378355081
Nah, Venomancer used to look like a banana.

>>378354957
>abomination == pudge

pudge doesn't have a third arm and warcraft 3 models didn't give them the personality they have today

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Juggernaut alone has a better design than anything in Overwatch. And he looks nothing like the Blademaster. Fucking blizzdrones.

>>378352294
Overwatch's heroes are fucking terrible and I guarantee you that if they weren't attractive (the females, anyway) nobody would be caring about them. Just look at Oriza and how utterly throwaway it is.

Dota has some design issues with cosmetics and shit but all their heroes are brimming with personality and thought. Even le electric aquarium man

>Dota
>literally THE EDGE the design
>meanwhile Overwatch has fun and colorful concepts

>>378355297
Fuck off, Juggernaut.

>>378355159
>dumbass Warhammer
Games Workshop

>thought that Miniatures and painting them was the future.
This is factually wrong, just look at this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_Workshop_video_games

>So hilarious, if they went with the games they would be an absolute uncontested monopoly

They had no ability to know this

>>378355297
Juggernaut's original design is so good, I really wish cosmetics didn't ruin him so much.

>>378355337
>"DIE DIE DIE"

>some purple sniper
>some generic katana samurai in a generic samurai robe
>some literally generic soldier with a number for a name with a faceless eye visor

fucking lol

>>378355337
What character looks edgy other than the actual demon characters?

>>378355337
the edgiest hero in Dota is Razor, and he ain't even that edgy, prove me wrong

>>378355251
Usually not, most of the fans of the series are either old farts or your typical esports wannabe. Naturally the latter needs reason why he picked up the esport flavour of the month so they keep bashing the other.

I don't like league but I'm not wasting time arguing whether the playstyle is shit or not. I just play dota.

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>>378355337
>dota
>classic dark fantasy design based off the amazing game WC3
>overwatch
>waifus and uninspired boring designs for everyone else

>>378355376
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_Workshop_video_games

They don't make any money, barely anybody buys Warhammer games and most suck and either straight up failed.

>>378355337

>has fun and colorful concepts
>the raimbow unicorn shit is good so overwatch is good.

is disonance when this people are in a fight to death everybody is happy and in color, and say weeeeee.

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>>378355431
>>some generic katana samurai

Hey, you`re that ninja

>>378352294
I'm a overwatch player and I don't even know what Dota is about but

>FPS literally released 1 year ago with 24 characters
>first MOBA ever released with I don't know, isn't it over a hundred characters that you can pick from at this point?

OP is a baiting faggot cuck confirmed desu.
Y'know what a good comparison would be? Overwatch and Team Fortress 2, League and Dota

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>>378355521
>not terrorblade

>>378352294
hots

>>378355521
Razor's got the personality of a saturday morning cartoon villain and I love it

this isn't even clever bait

dota has like 100+ heroes and they all see competitive play, overwatch has like 12

just based on probability it's almost certain dota has better heroes

>>378352294
>implying dota2 isn't just stolen blizzard character designs

>>378355650
League of Legends is shit in comparison to Dota.

TF2 vs Overwatch is debatable. It doesn't help that TF2 went to shit with cosmetics.

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>>378355776
>stolen

>>378355551
>"""classic""" dark fantasy design
>not uninspired

Classic is a pedant way to say boring and uninspired, sweetie.

Why are they removing orbs/atk-modifiers though?

>>378355776

>a blizzdrone say "stolen" to another company

wow this is ironic.

>>378355856
classic is classic

>>378355916
Appeal to the LoL audience. Same with magic amplification.

>>378355793
League is a completely different game from Dota lol

>>378355551
queen of pain of pain

>>378354532
you didnt, because everyone who has argues the opposite of you

>>378355856
Yeah, and literally building the perfect waifu-husbando character setup with bright colors and tokens everywhere isn't boring and uninspired.

Here's that (you) you fuck.

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>>378355916
because they limit item combinations and aren't necessary

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>>378355046
You forgot one more plus Ilexa

>>378355980
>Same with magic amplification.
This barely has any impact on gameplay for 95% of the heroes tho. I `d even say that spell amplification is useful ONLY for invoker.

>>378355916
Because it was boring shit that served no purpose and in some cases just a literal engine limitation from wc3, now dotashills have another thing they can't bitch about lol despite claiming it was a dumb design choice before now that icefraud went ahead and added it to the game

>>378355938
>a valve drone says stolen to another company

>>378355980
I'm not buying that. Either they are going to release
>new and cool
orbs, or they are simplifying the combat for no reason.

>>378356038
nice non-argument .

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>>378356075
>The deny
Fucking Arteezy

>>378356187
>simplifying the combat
removing orbs does not simplify combat retard

>>378355916
Orbs were a WC3 limitation. More variety and builds by removing orbs but also as a way to balance what would be broken combinations like Desolator being really cost-effective but lifesteal would make it too strong.

>>378352294

The real question is which game has better smut?

>>378355916
>tfw excited to use desolator on Silencer and OD
>remember that they do pure damage anyway

Literally what's the point?

>>378356363
Overwatch has the best Porn of any game ever made.

Dota 2 only has shit russians making sfm videos of there characters.

>>378356424
Pushing towers

Amplifying damage for other phys dps in team

>>378356476
>Overwatch has the best Porn of any game ever made.
that would be wow

>>378354892
the fun for your team, once you feed like a mad cunt

>>378356476
>Overwatch has the best Porn of any game ever made

Personally i believe that this is why this game has even became popular.

>>378352294
Both has complete trash literally who tier heroes.

>>378356075
>>378356125
Yes, I know orbs were originally a limitation of the WC3 engine.

What I don't get is why you need to be able to stack every single passive in the game. Orbs were designed and balanced around the fact that they were, duh, orbs. I'm pretty worried about the balance and simplifying item paths. They are already doing the linear pathing and you don't really have early items you dump or sell later on.

Also nobody in dota community is bitching about orbs not being in LoL. You are baiting (you)'s now you little shit.

>>378356102
Oh yeah, forgot bone loli.

Hots

>>378356134

>that tecnique of saying the same shit.

is just the blizzdrones so autistics.

>>378356581
>that would be wow
shamefully do i agree

>>378356581
>>378356891

most doesn't equal best.

WoW models are inferior to Overwatch models.

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>>378356618
>Click on your own risk!

>>378357089
>all porn is sfm
>all models are directly from the game and look like shit
WoW also has better girls

>>378356102
>Ilexa

Didn't everyone forget about her?

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>>378357276
She's still in my heart

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>>378356102
Cute!

>>378355521
He isn't even that edgy, he's just sadistic and tells Visage to fuck off all the time.

>>378357559
>He isn`t even that edgy, he is just edgy.

>>378357559
>not getting the joke

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>>378355658
I liked the original more

>>378357428
ILEXA IS THICC

>>378357742
>>378355658
I just realised he could actually be a decent comedic character, if he was placed in a self aware fiction and would create his illusions just so he can jerk off on how cool and great he is.

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>>378357453
She wants to be just like her hero

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>>378352294
>113~ heroes
>23~ heroes

thinking

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>>378353226
>>378353490
>>378353680
>>378353895
>>378353687
>>378353956
NO!
STOP BULLYING BONE-CHAN!

HE WAS A SACRIFICE PLAYER FOR EE SING FATA AUI AND NOTAIL

DONT BULLY MY OFFLANE BOYFRIEND!!!

>>378359202
didnt he try to sabotage np

>>378359317
No?
He's temporarily retired while he deals with his kidney stones issues, so EE invited him to be the coach for NP, cause NP is basically post-Singsing c9 now

They'll probably kicked MSS after TI and have bone stand in as their offlaner till they can pick up coon because mss is a shyster

>>378353226
>Level 12 at 1 hour
How the fuck is this possible? They sell exp books now, you get exp for denying your own creeps too. Wew low skill