Can someone please explain what the "TORTanic" was?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9C9OKMyZng

It was the event that ruined /v/.

Every new game has to be the next epic failure now.

>>378344558
Star Wars: The Old Republic

Does anyone else remember stillborn? HA!

>>378344558
summer is real

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>>378345136
No it isn't

>>378344995
>>378345202
I hate this retarded meme. /v/ shitting on upcoming or newly released video games is a habit that has existed literally for as long as /v/ has. If you attribute that kind of shitposting to TOR or any other game, you're either a newfag or you have incredibly poor memory.

>>378344995
This.
I don't understand how so many people want to try and recreate this.
>DUR HURR EVERY NEW GAME IS BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
Doesn't it get old?

>>378344558
It started off with its reveal trailers - though the moment the gameplay was shown /v/ went apeshit on it.

Everything looked fucking terrible.

Bare tidbits were revealed to hide away what little end-game the game actually had.

Couple that with shittery on Biowares end (Stanrey Woo etc etc) and it turned in a huge meme.

The fact that it failed terribly only solidified it.

>>378345414

No, we didn't have WORST GAME EVER BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY threads for every single new game prior to SWTOR.

TL;DR of it is:

Bioware announces massive MMORPG.

DA2 came out recently and was a massive dissapointment, and /v/ saw the trend in the development.

Videos came out showing how awful the animation quality was.

Game had a 500 million dollar budget but still looked awful because they spent most of the money on marketing.

Game failed on launch to reach even 1/2 of their projected sales.

>>378344558
BioWare hyped up TOR (The Old Republic) to be the most epic and awesome MMO since World of Warcraft.
It wasn't. From horrible bugs, to nazi-like forum and chat mods, to banning people trying to cancel subscriptions, to the gameplay simply being bad, it was an all-around disaster.
The name is a reference to the Titanic ship.

>>378345683
We don't have "WORST GAME EVER BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY" threads for every single game now either. It's just the same amount of shitposting that newly released video games always gotten in here. Seriously, you're embarrassing yourself.

Anyone got the bayeaux tapestry pic? I can't find mine.

>>378345349
I wish you'd remove the traffic part
That was in 2012 anon
Have you seen how much traffic ramped up since gamergoober and Trump?

>>378345958
And I'm sure with Bike lock bandit we'll soon be getting even more traffic.

>>378345958
Yes and did you see how that relevant to two things that aren't summer?

>>378345787
It happened to literally every AAA release for at least three years straight. Horizon was the last title I can think of that had that sort of shitposting, but it seems to have finally died down.

>>378344995
But a lot of the new mainstream games are complete and utter shit.
It's not /v/. It's big publishers literally stopped making good games.

>>378344558
99% of this board didn't play the MMO but we knew what the memes were about because we weren't THIS FUCKING NEW

>>378344558
lurk 3 years before posting

>>378345349

It doesn't even make any sense.
Why would someone be able to visit /v/ when they usually couldn't just because it's summer?

>>378346321
The what now?

>>378344558
Because it became the beginning of the end.

>>378345752
There was also all those media articles declaring how SWTOR was THE wow killer, it was the next step in gaming, Bioware was the next Blizzard, how despite its failings it CAN'T go f2p, and how its going f2p within 6 months of launch and why that's a good thing

>>378345435
>Doesn't it get old?
There's a whole country that has a word for watching other people's misery and enjoying it. No, it doesn't.

>>378344558
>another newfag asking an obvious question he could find the answer for himself if he wasn't so lazy to make a google search

Fuck off, newfag.

>>378344995
>I'm a newfag who doesn't remember how /v/ was before TORtanic: the post

Next time shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you're talking about, you little new bitch.

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i miss the daily EA stocks crashing threads. and the golden poo awards. feels like it was yesterday but it was years ago

>>378344558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o08e_xlXAVc

It started like every great meme.
/v/ hoped TORtanic will be utter shit. It was even worse. And then Biodrones tried to defend it.

2012 was generally a year of huge wars between MMO fags, wasn't it? SWToR, TERA, GW2 and another WoW expansion clamoring for the MMO throne.
Funny how none of those games are relevant anymore now.

>>378346570
I started lurking in 2014. Now what?

The most offensive part of TOR was how they were obviously spending the massively bloated budget on marketing instead of the game.

Marketing got professional, slick CGI movies animated; meanwhile BioWare development team paid for a buggy, SHITTY, prototype indie game engine on the cheap which was in now way designed to do what they were doing with it. It was such an embarrassment the engine's developer came out and said that he had no contact with BioWare after they paid for the engine, and if you want to see GOOD IMPLEMENTATION then refer to these [small indie MUD-tier games]

>>378346708
Holy fuck how new are you? Summerfag has been a thing since 2005 you newfag. It means the kiddies that are in school during the year get out in June and can post during the days.

Of course it mattered a lot more back in 2004-2011 before every child had a web enabled phone in their pocket and could post any time.

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>>378347883
How could you say that, it's obvious that so much effort went into the game.

>>378344558
I actually prefer SWTOR to WoW

>>378348095
Well WoW went to shit too by now.
But back then it used to be still good.

>>378348170
WoW was getting worse and worse by 2012.

>>378344995
TOR was completely irrelevant in shaping /v/. Only newfags parrotting newfags say otherwise.
The only events that really changed the board were:
-The game industry getting progressively worse (or at leas different) during the last gen. Lots of fanbase betraying that made people bitter.
-The /v/-/vg/ split. The cocksuckers that balanced the place all moved there to circlejerk for eternity.
-The often forgotten great /b/ invasion of around 2010. Whole affair was fucking disgusting and it was all Moot's fault.

>>378347883

It makes sense though. It's WoW Clone #6345, the only thing that sets it apart is being Star Wars so that's what they focused on.

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>>378348318
Every time.

>hyped up as the next big SW MMO, the successor to the KOTOR series
>previews look like shit
>beta hits, it's literally just a WoW reskin
>forums full of fanboys fighting back buyer's remorse by white knighting the game and writing off every flaw as "i-it's just a beta, i-it's just released, t-they'll patch it" etc.
>mods banning people who call out bioware
>turns out that not only was the game built on some weird ass engine, it was an ALPHA version of the engine and the company who made it even told Bioware not to use it
>some bug where dancing made you immune to player damage, GMs start banning people who dance outside of "designated dancing zones"

i could go on but it really was a clusterfuck

>>378347432
Ive been here since 2006 I came right before the initial Habbo raids in the summer of 2006. Hes 100% right.

Someone post
>12 gigabytes of RAM power

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>>378349287
I got you.

>>378347597
Think of all those hundred of millions of dollars that went to produce those shitheaps that could be otherwise been spent in making countless single-player games. Even if most were to be shit, that would still be dozens of great games.

>>378346738
/pol/ successfully tracked down the bike lock assaulter at the Berkeley protest riots a month or two back and hes been arrested and being tried in mid June. He's facing 25 to life with Californias 3 strike rule.

>>378349285
Nah, you're a liar and a dumbass. /v/ has had several big blunders prior to TORtanic, with Spore being one of the biggest ones. Googling 4chan on KYM doesn't make for a good substitute, kiddo.

>>378349520
Nope been here since 2006 ever since /b/ was linked to WoWs off topic forums. The board has been angry and depressed forever but never as cynical or pessimistic as it has been since TORtanic. Youre wrong and the newfag here buddy.

>>378349024

The biggest factor has been /pol/. It started off okay (as in they stayed inside their containment board, the content itself was always terrible), but attracted a ton of people from /r/t_d and similar places which spilled over into the rest of 4chan.

Actually, I blame society as a whole for getting too politicised, A lot of people nowadays seems to think everyone is really interested in their retarded armchair politics and shoves in it everyone's faces as much as possible. And the more 'controversial' they believe their views to be the harder they scream. (see /pol)

>>378349489
the more times i look at the this the more painful it gets

I miss stanley woo

>>378349729
>Actually, I blame society as a whole for getting too politicised

that's the actual problem, not /pol/ itself. there are plenty of people who comment on shit that's been politicized that don't even go to /pol/.

most of the shitposting comes from /tv/

>>378349937

/tv/s shitposting is annoying and stale, but harmless.
I'd rather see someone repeating the same phrase over and over thinking that makes it funnier than the shit that comes from /pol/.

>>378349729
You don't know what you are talking about.
/pol/ is a recent development, and both /v/ and 4chan as a whole were already swarmed by redditors even before /pol/ were a thing.
Same thing about the politicization of the hobby.

>>378349024
>The often forgotten great /b/ invasion of around 2010
>that cringey comic about /v/ guy facing off against /b/ guy

Christ that was awful. Still not as bad as when GG happened and that drawing of a little reddit mascot on the shoulder of the /v/ guy.

>>378350118
you don't understand, /tv/ are the ones that are taking the political shit and spreading it. they started spreading memes like baneposting, cuck porn etc. and found posting things that look like they belong on /pol/ made the most impact.

>>378350194
>>that cringey comic about /v/ guy facing off against /b/ guy
>not wanting to FIGHT DA POWAH

>>378350242
>cuck porn
I still don't know how the fuck this (and ebonics, for that matter) even managed to spread. They are just plain unfunny.

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I lurked for four years before posting
Glad I did

>>378350392
On 4chan, something annoying spread faster than something funny. Trolls trolling trolls.

>>378344558
Most people on /v/ were claiming it was going to be absolute shit (there were many reasons to believe so). On launch, the game turned out to be a failure of catastrophic proportions. Subs took a nosedive after the initial gametime ended and the game was forced to go free to play really fucking quickly in order to keep it going.

Since then, /v/ has resorted to calling every game "the biggest blunder of 201X" in the hopes of recreating that "I was right" feeling.

It's when this place turned from video game discussions to shitposting.

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>>378344558
Bioshart decided they know better what gamers want than the gamers who actually bought their rushed piece of shit.
Admins who were too biased to even act as admins.
Tons of absolute fucking retards who dogpilled on everyone with any criticism convincing biowart, electronic ass their game is perfect and need no gamers.

Basically everyone spited actual players, critiqued people for critiquing the game and listened to the most fuckheaded fanbase there ever was and this was the result.

>Captcha: metz ahead

I DING DONG BANNU
END OF RINE

>>378350597
Do you still have the "Hell yeah motherfucker" ?

Is the game worth playing if I'm bored and sorta enjoy star wars?

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>>378351110
anon delivers

>>378350597
>>378351245
Aww shit, this was when /v/ screwed around with that gamespot poll, right?

>>378351202
You'll be crippled by the free to play restrictions to do anything fun like raids or pvp.

Sure you can do all the stories, but most are shit and not worth it.

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>>378351245
Thank you !
I want to go back anon

>>378344558
Long story short: it had over 200 millions budget, a lot of it was spent on voice and when it was released it looked and played underwhelming, couldn't amass big enough playerbase despite being fastest growing MMO and after reaching like a million subscribers with its incredibly overblown budget it started quickly dwindling and they moved to F2P model.

In short, it just sounds hilarious, they spent 200 million dollars on F2P MMO that doesn't look any better than the ones Korea and China shit out on yearly basis.

It probably has definitely already made money back, but despite its overblown budget it looks like shit, plays like shit and has never reached the heights of World of Warcraft.

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>>378345683
>>378346409
>Too new to remember
>8.8
>8.8
>8.8

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At least they were understanding on people wanting to cancel their subscription.

>>378351679

That was a single event, and the only reason it's remembered is because it didn't happen with every single game.

TORtanic was literally a toy boat compared to FFXV

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>>378351452
It was glorious. It was the last time Gamespot ever ran this sort of thing, too.

>>378351883
You mean XIV

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>>378350392
Because it pissed /pol/ off

And then /tv/ started using /pol/ shit to piss off the people who hated /pol/.

/tv/ is making everyone mad. They're the Australia of boards.

>>378346636
>>378346742
This always has me in stitches every time.

>it's not sinking. My side just rose 100ft!

>>378347967
Even that doesn't make any sense because of timezones

>>378346738
Antifa guy who committed a crime by cracking a Trump supporter's skull open got caught by /pol/.

He was a professor trying to radicalize students at UC Berkeley.

>>378351939
From what I was told at the time, "cuck" started on /sp/. But who fucking cares at this point since everyone uses it even when it doesn't fit at all. Just like "meme" transformed into "something I don't like".

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Its actually a good game now though

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>>378351909
Relevant

>>378351791
No, it's remembered because it was huge, it was basically TOR before TOR. Similar shit happened with the PS3 in general, especially PS3 Bayonetta, and PS3 Sonic Unleashed.

>>378351763
This was truly the most despicable thing and there are people who will defend it.

>end of the first subscription period after launch
>the cancel button mysterious vanishes from the website
>makes it impossible for people to cancel before another subscription fee comes out of their account
>conveniently returns a few hours later

>>378350242

Man, /tv/ is such a shit board.
I used to frequent it but I can't do it anymore. There's literally nothing but meme threads anymore, and threads that start out normal turn into meme threads 10 posts in. Even /v/ in its current state is way better.

>>378349512
>>378352057
White and based

>>378352140
No, it started on /tv/, but "cuck" started on either /sp/ or /pol/, who got sick of /tv/'s shit.

/pol/ originally just started posting Canadian cuck porn to counter the BLACKED cuck porn. This was prior to Canada going fucking insane in 2015. Now being Canadian is a shameful thing, and no one posts Canadian cuck porn anymore. Sad state of affairs.

>>378349512
>>378352057
But what does that have to do with /v/ becoming even worse?

>>378352501

>>>/r/t_d

>>378352616
Stay mad, antifag

>>378352718

I don't even know what that is.

>>378352597
Remember The Fappening? I'm assuming the poster was implying that we're going to get a huge influx because the faggot got caught by /pol/, which led to his arrest, which is now being talked about on the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTlyOB_I7yc&t=107s

Here, watch this if you want a quick summary, including the video.

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>>378352370
Exactly, that was the most retarded fanbase ever, I'd argue they are the ones that killed the game and should serve as a warning on why devs should ignore people like this.

>>378351909
God that was the fucking best.
I remember that even /mu/ and /co/ ended up getting involved as well.

>>378349489
>One TERABYTE Hard Drive
this post is easily the funniest thing to come out of SWTOR

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>>378349489
>ultimate gaming rig
>intel quadra processor
>RAM POWER
>TERABYTES
>blu ray player
>geeksquad

every fucking time

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>>378352949

/mu/ had some other contest going on that we helped them with in return for their help.
I don't know about /co/.

>>378353070
>>378353051
> not dell gaming mouse and foxconn PSU

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>>378353081
>icecoldmarty
every time

>>378350173
>in order to sell them to other players

>>378352949
The best was that one /b/ vote when anons raided a beauty contest and voted some black chick that looked straight from precious Portia or something
She was winning and at some point fucking 10/10 15 yo angel (actual name) or something similar went full /pol/ on her which locked the contest and cancelled the votes.

It was great because this absolute 10/10 15yo babe with profile full of tollerance, love and butterflies showed everyone how full of shit she is.

>>378344558

It was a huge IP (Star Wars) being made by a huge AAA dev (Bioware) and being published a huge conglomerate with unlimited funds (EA). By all rights, those three things combined should have made SWTOR the biggest, best selling game of all time, but it hilariously bombed right out of the gate anyway. That's why people compared it to the Titanic, the unsinkable ship that sunk on its first voyage.

>>378352845
/pol/, much like reddit, is incredibly desperate for attention. To the point where faggots like you shill on /v/ about retarded, irrelevant nonsense.

And at the same time you fags want to take credit for every single fucking thing that happens because you're so desperate for attention and wanting people to think you matter. You dumb idiots took 'credit' for writing the trump docs, you fags thing you caught the bike lock assaulter, you think you figured out the 'truth' behind pizzagate.

Frankly I'm fucking tired of it because you idiots want to treat this place as a super sekret klub while doing everything you can to act like bigger attentionwhores than most twitch streamers.

>>378353467

I don't remember this. When was this?

>>378353553
That's a whole lot of nonsense and pure MAD.

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>>378353598
Dont remember but I'd guess somewhere around 2010.

RINE END HERE

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>>378353764
DING DONG BANNU

I spent $100+ on the limited edition of TOR. I was such a huge KOTOR and KOTOR II fan. If I had known before launch how badly they butchered Revan and the Exile, I would have cancelled it. Easily my worst purchase.

It was hilarious but it brought irreversible damage to this board where the "hating every game" joke got taken very literally by newcomers to this site who got really desperate for their own own TORtanic. Now those faggots can't stop making threads jerking off over any kind of bad news.

>>378344558
/v/ predicted that it will fail hard because everyone hated Bioware and EA. The game did ok but since it didn't become as popular as wow, it was proclaimed "le epic failure"

Considering that it is still alive today, I don't agree.

>>378354079

'Predicting' SWTOR would fail is like predicting the sun comes up tomorrow.

>>378347504
https://youtu.be/haWRUpPw_tI

>>378347967
You're the newfag.

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>>378353987
>not listening to /v/

>>378347504

The funniest part about this was all the retards who got upset about BofA not winning, as if they would give a shit about some meaningless internet award.
EA on the other hand went into full damage control mode.

>>378349489
>1500$ gaming computer (2100$ after signing up for extended warranty and 2 years of Geeksquad protection)

Holy fucking christ.

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>>378354079
>The game did ok
All those screenshots in this thread and you still think it did ok.
Let me guess, you were one of those guys.

>>378354424
>Listening to /v/
>ever

>>378354494
take that poor anon's story as proof
/v/ can be right

>>378354480

Considering it's still running today, yes, it wasn't a failure.
An artistic one yes, but not a commercial one.

>>378354494
/v/ is often right but they have shit taste.

>>378354597
the game itself is not good
i ended up trying it after ti went f2p, just to see
it is so fucking cringy
the only reason it's alive now is that it's basically a fucking single player bioware game, but for free

>>378354494
/v/ is usually right

>>378354597
Maybe they're still running it to avoid it being a worse commercial failure than it was. Killing it off would have meant a lot of resentment from fans, and no way of making back even a modest amount of the budget.

That it's still running today just means that it's average monthly earnings are bigger than the operatings costs. Not that it is as such a commercial success.

>>378354597
it was a failure, the game went F2P, and had to trap customers to meet payment (the whole unsuscribe button disappearing)

it's a huge fucking blunder, yeah, it wasn't the end because they had a huge publisher behind but it failed in EVERY aspect

>didn't create a succesful MMO that had the objective to surpass wow and became 1º
>didn't managed to even stay monthly payment, had to go to the cash shop/f2p route and give suscribers retarded boosts
>barely managed to return any investment, and that with the help of the most profitable IP of the world

it's only alive because they literally have no budget and live through biowaredrones buying shit in the shop, they wanted to continue each individual storyline and ended up having to make a MONTHLY unified chapter for everyone with one of the worst stories/animations and drought of content ever

>>378354840
/v/ usually always reprsents both extreme ends in matters of predictions, as well as a spectrum in between, so of course /v/ is always right.

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>>378354480
>wrong pic

>>378354597
>but not a commercial one.
Yeahhhh, we need more games like that.

>FFXIV and TESO managed to get unfucked
>SWTOR is still shit

There's really no excuse. They probably just don't care anymore but keep it running because it turns a profit so they might as well.

>Instead of telling newfag OP to lurk, /v/ explains to him the ancient shitty memes
This is fucking awful.

>>378355359
FFXIV and TESO didn't have a retarded unfinished engine that made the game unplayable, they also brought new people to try and save the game

it's impossible to unfuck SWTOR unless it's remade on a new engine and made by a new company

>>378355535
FFXIV's engine literally made it unplayable, though. That was the biggest issue it had.

>>378354808
>>378355092

If you want story in your mmo (for some reason) it is decent game. Swtor have better story elements than any other mmo simply because stories in all other mmos are incredibly bad. It was the only mmo where you cared what happens (without being a lorefag). This fact doesn't make it a good mmo tho.

I still don't consider it as a "blunder" or "epic failure" as it didn't immediately dissapeared into oblivion. It somehow survived and some people enjoyed the time they had playing the game. I can always see a couple of guys faintheartedly saying good things about the game in every swtor thread that comes up now and then.

So yea, I think it did ok. Now if it didn't have the Star Wars name behind it, that would have been a blunder.

>>378355627
it made it unplayable because they did retarded things like making the pot flowers have the same details as a fucking character

however, the engine has been toned down and is fine, unless it's Odin or something like that, Heavensward zones were pretty and big, because the loading times are due to ps3 limitations

in SWTOR I get massive drop of FPS in PVP (when I played it) on a computer that's very decent, meanwhile I can easily mantain 60 fps in FFXIV PVP with 72 ppl doing shit

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>>378344995
>It was the event that ruined /v/
op wasn't asking about spore, newfag

>>378349489

>TFW this was 2010
>TFW people won't remember this was a /v/irgin trolling them

>>378355915
I mean, it's barely an mmo. It's just like a single player bioware game with mmo-tier quests.

>>378355915
Guild Wars, City of Heroes, and Heavensward all have/had a better story than SWTOR

the stories in SWTOR were also mostly trash, the only vaguely worthwhile ones were Agent and Light Side Warrior

>>378353309
Protip: They weren't selling them to other players. They were literally just banning people for getting lots of gold/credits.

Everything about the game from it's design, to its aesthetics, to its developers was a shitfest the worst proportions. Add a 300M budget and you have the tortanic.

>>378352057
truly /pol/ is the best board

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>mfw I defended TOR
>I even bought the game
>mfw I never even got to max level

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>>378356116
It's the only board that can stay on topic most of the time. They also have weaponized autism, so there's that.

>>378344558
Bioware did and said stupid shit during the development of SWTOR.
Biodrones said stupid shit during the development of SWTOR
Both groups said and did stupid shit once it was released.
/v/ made fun of them for it. End of rine.

>>378356008

It was hard to tell at times.

I do remember someone making a thread about how amazing the music is making references to ships and sinking, and linking the the SWTOR theme which was the Titanic Celine Dion song.

>>378355976
>in SWTOR I get massive drop of FPS in PVP (when I played it) on a computer that's very decent

Dude, fuck that shit. I was so continuosly mad at bioware for this. My computer ran the game on 60 fps everywhere EXCEPT pvp in which fps dropped to 15-20.

>>378353553
/pol/ is what happens when society suppresses reason and logical thinking for fake ideas. That doesn't mean /pol/ represents reason and logical thinking, but it is the result of trying to prevent it.

You can't tell a man to hug a knife and expect him to go along with it without a fight

>>378356116

>best board
>supports an illiterate oligarch

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>>378356116
Well, they did caught head opening lock guy, they caught nigglet who threw old woman with her dogs in a pool and pic related to the point army lecture used them as an example.

>>378351909
I remember all the art that spawned, good times

>>378355915
that's the problem, it was a blunder because it had the Star wars name behind, how the fuck can you fuck it up so much having an IP that makes marketing and selling 100% easier for you?

and yeah, the single player element in the game is the only enjoyable thing, that's the point, it failed at being an MMO

and for something to fail the game doesn't have to dissapear into oblivion, Wildstar is still alive, and was a fuckup, GW2 is still alive, and considered a fuck up.

the fact that it has some resemblance to Star wars and is the only Star wars MMO is the only reason people play it

>>378356487
yeah, because having more than 4 people in your screen throwing shit fucks the engine up, hell, the entire game is heavily instance so that's why you don't realize it while playing PVE

Anyone has the TORtanic pic about WoW ocean explorations with it on the bottom? It always made me laugh.

>>378356523
weaponized autism is terrifying

I tried the game out recently and had fun if you play it as a 15 dollar single player game.

I cant imagine getting much more out of it after that month clearing the vanilla story though.

>>378355449
Yeah he should just get his meme info from Behind the meme

>>378356872
Or he should fucking lurk you newfag piece of trash.

>>378357009
yeah, lurk in those daily Tortanic threads

>>378357057
Get the fuck out or lurk. You newfags should not be tolerated any longer.

>>378356107
>Guild Wars
Don't agree. I didn't play the other two, you may be right.

>the stories in SWTOR were also mostly trash, the only vaguely worthwhile ones were Agent and Light Side Warrior

Among the good ones some were trash I agree. But for me every one of them gave me context behind grinding a hundred copy/paste minions. Helped my suspension of belief. Also I was preffering certain companions over others simply because I liked their personalities and wanted to hear what they have to say about stuff going around me, instead of you know choosing one solely based on numbers on the screen.

>I mean, it's barely an mmo. It's just like a single player bioware game with mmo-tier quests.
I agree and I'm ok with it because I went through most of the content with other people which made it really fun for me. Since I'm a casual guy who values interaction with other people over solo grind/tryharding or whatever, it fit me, although I can understand how it can suck for other people.

>>378357009
yeah, no one should ever reminisce about funny good times in the past. How dare they?

>>378357115
the lady doth protest too much

>>378356872

>look it up to see if it's real
>first video I see is about big smoke's order

We did it, /v/!

Whats funny is that many people were acting like GW2 was some sort of savior

>>378354576
even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>378357348

Unless you have a digital one.
Moral of the story, don't get a digital clock.

>>378356641
>Wildstar is still alive, and was a fuckup, GW2 is still alive, and considered a fuck up.

This makes me wonder, what was the last mmo released which was actually considered a success?

>>378357461
FFXIV A Realm Reborn?

>>378357203
the quest stories in SWTOR start to thin out by the time you are out of the starter planet

then you had to do a ton of side quest (that were literally kill X or gather X but with 300€ million in voice acting) and the planetary quest that some were good, most were trash

I was talking about when it came out, I know that you can easily level through story/planetary quest only now

and the companions weren't bad, but some of them were shit (like Corso), it was a good point, but there wasn't really much interaction with them because you needed ton of gifts to get interactions (now you get them after a certain point in your story or something)

>>378356493
Nigga you are just delusional.

>>378357203
That secon quote was from this guy >>378356053

My bad.

>>378357461

There's a been a few now that WoW isn't the juggernaut anymore it used to be.

>>378357461
FFXIV ARR, and it was a rehash from 1.0

since then, no game has come to a success that big, but that doesn't stop people from hyping up shitty korean MMOs and new MMOs with "fresh" ideas

the only MMO I see causing a havoc is Star Citizen, and by the time it really comes out I will have my own spaceship

Someone post the Ramen Desert image.

>>378357442
well technically it can still be right if it stops on a time in the morning.

>>378344558
It was a fantastic failure, but it was also the final breathe for the MMO genre. I enjoyed it's failure, but I wasn't aware of what the cost would become.

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>>378346636
>if anyone is being tossed off the ship, it's because they were exploiting the deck chairs to sun tan

Oh my god, wasn't that about people getting banned because they figured out when certain loot chests would refresh their inventory? I forgot how terrible the TORtanic really was.

>>378357461
The problem with new MMOs is that they bite off way too much.
When was the last time an MMO showed off early stages of gameplay or let people play early stages of gameplay so that they could get EARLY feedback and make the changes needed?

These companies somehow convince people to give them hundreds of millions of dollars and then build a massive bland world with the bare minimum parts everywhere.

What they should be doing is creating rich in depth parts that build on each other, and get feedback throughout the process.

>>378357826
My favorite MMO that gets hyped up by poor saps are all the kickstarter MMO's. As if that can ever turn out well, most kickstarter single player games struggle to not be broken messes.

>>378357539
>I was talking about when it came out, I know that you can easily level through story/planetary quest only now

Yea I realized it too. I have only completed the consular story on launch (which was nothing special). The others I completed much later, when it became possible to level through only story quests which was an improvement. I really enjoyed those, especially the Sith warrior one, I liked everyone trying to suck up to me.

Now this new(ish) storyline is even better. There really was some hard choices, environments were great, writing was decent etc. Now it makes me realise that the game gets better at being a single player rpg than being an mmo.

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>>378358705
>Now it makes me realise that the game gets better at being a single player rpg than being an mmo

exactly, that was fundamentally what the problem was, should have been single player, but "MUH MMO"

they literally killed KOTOR 3,4,5,6

>>378358332
The marketing took precedence over content now. It is more important to convince the players that the game will be great instead of making the actual game great.

>shitty MMO sold like shit
>/v/ went full mental about it and since then, /v/ unironically wants every game to fail
>TOR becomes a free to play
>makes money and stays afloat even today
>/v/ stays as shitty as that day
you cany make that shit up

>>378359372
and yet it's still a shitty game

>>378359372
It's a bad game. If it wasn't a Star Wars game it would have fallen harder than Battleborn.

>>378359421
>>378359735
i dont care about how shitty it is, it sells pretty good even today and it gives food to those who were mocked back then
im not joking cause I used to work on dlc for that shit

>>378360000
you made shit and should feel bad

>>378360000
>it gives food to those who were mocked back then
Implying most of the SWTOR devs still work at that studio (or hell, at EA).

The only people benefitting from SWTOR doing well is EA shareholders.

What a waste of fucking quads.

>>378360000
It's getting minimal content and just surviving.
When you have a Star Wars MMO in your hands, that's a massive failure for the franchise. It had the potential for being bigger than WoW, they had the money, they had everything and Bioware fucked up.

Making a little profit can still be a failure if you had the potential to make something big.

>>378360000
>these are the kinds of people that worked on the old republic
It all makes sense now

>>378359214
except their revenue proved that wrong
You can't just "market" and expect to sell well.

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>>378344995

>It was the event that ruined /v/

It wasn't. The event that ruined /v/ was due to the Tribes Ascend match back in 2013. It attracted salty redditors to migrate here after reddit's team lost the match.

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>>378349024
>forgetting ishygddt

>>378344995
I don't shit on games because i want the next TORtanic, i shit on them because most games in the last decade or so have genuinely looked derivative and mediocre.

>>378362865
Phonto go to bed

>>378349729
>a ton of people from /r/t_d
Fuck off, newfag. /v/ was having problems before your meme subreddit existed.

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SHAME

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>being this new

>>378352057
The fuck is Antifa?

>>378364783
"Anti Fascists." They're thugs who really hate Trump and the reason why you can't wear a MAGA hat.

>>378364783
The SJW version of a Nazi.

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>>378349489
>nice job star wars
gets me everytime

>>378344995
>It was the event that ruined /v/.
Not really

>>378346708
No because there are times when the board is notably less shitty, between GMT -5 02:00 until 15:00 Monday-Friday. After that there's a noticeable drop in quality and spike in shitty threads/posts. This correlates directly with the times most Americans are either sleeping or away from the house at school or work. This natural time barrier becomes eroded in the summer.

The worst time to be on the internet, and this goes beyond /v/ to game servers and beyond, is GMT-5 18:00 to 1:00.

________29:30________

>>378349489
Ah this old gem again. The Foxconn part just kills me though.

>>378345752
Tor supposedly made back it's initial investment and pulls almost 100m in revenue a year. Apparently there are a lot of fanboys who are willing to spend their entire paycheck on the f2p model because it's Starwars.

>>378349729
/pol/ is just where all the /b/ oldfags went when that board became intolerable even for them.

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>>378365235
I-it can't be a coincidence...

>>378344995
tortanic ruined /v/ because fags like you scream and cry about it whenever a game you're excited about gets shit on

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The Summer that never ended.

Everyone always remembers Tortanic but it's like people forgot about the DMC: Devil May Cry ride.

>>378367874
there's little spurts of nostalgia for it every now and then, just like with SWTOR

>>378346742
>no dancing on the ship or you will get thrown overboard

>>378344558
Another aspect was that Sony just shut down the original StarWars MMO "Galaxies".

Galaxies was a very ambitious, experimental MMO with multiple planets, space, and a crazy crafting system that allowed for whole cities to be built by players. The old Republic was the opposite.

>>378367572

You're only proving the point.

>>378356112
>They weren't selling them to other players. They were literally just banning people for getting lots of gold/credits.
[citation needed]

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Oh, are we having a TORtanic thread?

>>378349024
>not mentioning GG and the exodus of all the 8ch, VIDYA GAMES ARE SRS BUISNESS faggots.

>>378364089
I don't get it, does the developer think farming=RMT or is he legitimately trying to argue that buy low sell high goes against their design?

So after this, DAI, Andromeda, do you think we'll finally see Bioware put to rest? EA has to be losing money from them.

>>378373037
No Jews Allowed
This is a story-centric game.

>>378353467
>>378353718
someone post links about this it sounds hilarious

>>378372724
This image always gets me laughing. It proves how willing the press is (especially Kotaku) to wrap their mouths over that sweet ad revenue biased dick and give it the most succulent blowjob imaginable.