Why is Persona 3 considered the best game in the series?

It was most peoples first persona game.

>>378324342
it isn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFrGIJQZFo&t=4s
This comfy ass music

Has a generally more ambitious story overall and the world doesn't revolve around the main character with the party members having their own development arcs which makes them generally more interesting

I personally liked how it was designed like a pure dungeon crawler as well which the later ones moved away from, I think it worked well with the game design, compared to 'lmao just do the dungeon in a day' stuff that you get in 3 and 4.

I personally also preferred only being able to control the main character but I know I'm in a minority on that one

>>378324967
Not OP but 3 is generally considered the best, with some people saying 5 as well

>>378324342
4 ruined the series and 5 couldn't salvage it.

I like 5 more

>>378325261
lol no it isn't

because of edgelords who thought 4 was too happy and nostalgiafags who played 3 first

>>378325451
/thread

3 > 5 > 4

>What about the first 2?
No one cares about them, just like the first two Fallouts.

>>378324342
most people's first game
the last 10 hours make people forget the first 50-60 where nothing happens

>>378325659
this, playing P3:FES as my first Persona game and I dread going to Tartarus, its so fucking grindy and repetitive.

>>378324342
It's not the best, but i like it the most

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5 > 3 > Q > 2IS > 4

I haven't played EP or 1 yet

>>378324342
but it isnt. 4 is considered the best. 3 is boring

Isn't 5 considered the best?

>>378324342
It was released 10 years ago, so it's old enough to be babby's first JRPG for /v/.

>>378324342
because its the only modern one that has actual character development. kind of important when your game is a 50 hour marathon that is mostly character interaction

>>378326410
Maybe now, but 3 was the favorite before and still is the favorite with some.

>>378324342
should i play the ps2 or the psp version

4>5>3 fight me

Still all 3 is easy my top 15 games of all time.

>>378326719
There's only one character with good character development though, the rest of the cats have bad character development and they're also boring characters in every other regard.

>>378326737
PS2, but if you ever want to replay it then get the PSP version for that.

>>378324342
People liked the tone more in 3 than 4. I hated the inability to control my teammates so I'm not the biggest fan, even if the PSP version added it back.

>>378326737
PSP. You won't want to play it again, you simply want to get through it as quickly as possible.

>>378326884
why doesnt the pspversion lets you use the other characters

>>378325647
accurate on both accounts

>>378326737
psp unless you enjoy getting screwed over by shitty AI teammates

Why the hate for P4/P4G? It was a nice change of pace.
Being a part of a scooby gang that literally grows on you emotionally unlike any other game that isn't MGS honestly makes it the best in the series for me.
I didn't really get the same feel with P5 even though the themes are very different. It was more of a coworkers setting than actually bonding socially as you would with friends.
P5 is still awesome though.

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>>378326737
Fes first, then you can play the Psp version for FemC if you want

>>378327015
That's the PS2 version.

>>378326973
>You won't want to play it again
seriously tho does people actually replay games that long(60+ hours)
seems like achore

Babby's first.

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>>378324342
FemC is the best. I wish the other Persona games let you choose because getting the story from two viewpoints really made it worth replaying. and waifu or some shit.

>>378327042
>Why the hate for P4/P4G
I played it first before playing P3 and I can understand why people hate P4.

P3 had a good characters with their own arc, character development, and felt like they served a purpose, but NONE of the characters outside of Teddy felt that way in P4. P4 dropped the ball HARD when it came to having actual character development.

>>378327241
Well I'm sure they'd like to but just one character in P5 had something around 1200+ scenarios written, having another character would double that essentially.

>>378326338
>4 is considered the best

By who? You? lol

>>378327593
Everybody with good taste. 3 is garbage trash gutter

>>378324342
It's objectively the best game ever, actually.

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>>378327015
You have full party control in the PSP version, but you lose fusion skills, an overworld, animated cutscenes and MC can only use swords where he can use any weapon in P3FES.

>>378327042
I actually prefer P4G to P3FES, but I think vanilla 4 feels very obviously rushed, the characters are hit or miss in 4, the mystery isn't really that engaging and it lacks the strong themes that 3 and 5 have. P4 really hammers down on the friendship side of it all which is fine, but it all feels a little shallow. It's a fun game, but I don't think it's the best. I also disagree on the cast feeling like they were really bonding in 4, to me it all felt like none of them except Yukiko and Chie would spend a minute with each other outisde of IT stuff and they were friends with Yu more than they were friends with each other. I know some people say the same about the P5 cast, but I didn't get that feeling there.

>>378327763
Oh, thanks for telling me!

>>378327763
Fuck no it isnt lol.

>>378327174
It's not like New Game+ will take as long thanks to the compendium transferring over.

>>378325994
>he puts PQ over P2
P2's protag is literally /ourguy/

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>>378325167
>I personally also preferred only being able to control the main character but I know I'm in a minority on that one
Yeah I liked that too but it was bit weird not being able to control them cuz I played P4 first. The system of setting their mode like conserve SP or Full Attack worked well imho.

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Relevant to this thread.

>random generated dungeon
>cant control party members
>most of slinks suck
>random inheritance

Yeah no.

>>378324342
So you don't seem like a normie for choosing 5, a weaboo for 4, and a pretentious faggot for choosing 1 and 2.

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you cant even fucking control your own party members. there are jrpgs on the fucking master system that allows you to do that.

>>378328327
I'm not a pretentious faggot for preferring 2, am I?

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Outside of obvious innovations in game mechanics in the later titles and re-releases, I like 3 (meaning P3P), P4G and P5 almost equally. They all have strengths and weaknesses, but each one puts a highly enjoyable spin on the same formula.

In fact, after finishing P5 I looked at the artbook and saw all those unused designs and ideas and I'm already jonesing hard for P6.

p3 is the contrarian option

>>378328375
P3P

>>378328879
>(meaning P3P)
Fag

>>378329081
is shit.

>>378329130
Yeah P3 is shit, but that's not the point

>>378329081
>not even the first version
>paid "patch"
>makes game vastly inferior in other ways
Hell, they even did cut out animated cut-scenes.

>>378329307
that wasnt funny.

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>>378324342
best girl
best game

5>3>2:IS>2:EP>1>4
this is objectively true

>>378329321
But muh FeMc

Because the theme of death is more interesting to a lot of people than the broad concept of "facing the truth". It keeps a dark tone for a majority of the game and has characters that actually have personalities and develop as the game goes along. It actually feels like a well developed story. Of course, the gameplay is monotonous, the level design is copy pasted to absurd amounts and it's not especially well balanced in terms of activities (I finished all the social links at nighttime with two to three months left to go) but overall I think it's more interesting than 4 and maybe 5

>>378328274
>P5 fans see P3 as old school SMT when P5 is more like that than P3 is
Did you think about this image at all?

>>378328083
You are welcome. Newfriends will deny this tho.

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>>378329321
P3P was such a dissapoiting updated release. Every time I tryed to play it I stopped because the VN cutscenes pissed me off that much.

Didn't help that after I tried FES after and I noticed how much more shit was cut from the "Definitive" PSP title. You would have to be a humoungus fucking faggot to think the Non Canon FemMC route is any reason to pick it up.

>>378329321
>>makes game vastly inferior in other ways

Just because you can't walk on a 3D map in towns anymore, making you realize what VN trash the game actually was?

>>378324342
It's not. The only place you'll hear people saying that is here on /v/, and that's just the contrarians who physically can't admit that a popular game is good.

>>378324342
is P3 the most divisive persona game on /v/?

>>378331515
No, it's 5 right now. And that's only because of the shitposters futilely trying to convince everyone that it's actually shit.

>>378324342

Because people haven't played both sides of 2.

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>>378325994
I personally preferred IS over EP, the characters are somewhat better and Tatsuya works better as an MC than Maya.
Also there's a significant lack of Eikichi in EP, which automatically makes it the inferior game.

>>378325167
>I personally also preferred only being able to control the main character but I know I'm in a minority on that one

I'll raise you one unpopular opinion more anon.
I liked the fact that Tartarus was seen as the massive slog a giant tower would be.
The characters reacted how you'd expect people to, given a massive year long task like that.
Some days Junpei was excited to clear some floors, sometimes he just wanted to goof off and play some vidya.
Kind of mimics how I felt about it and would use Slinking as a way if breaking up the grind.

I'll accept that it's less "fun" though.

>>378332381

Ulala was basically him and Lisa mashed together though.

>>378332661
and yet somehow I still like both of them more than Chie 1.0.

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Tbh I think the best in the series is mostly subjective. My favorite is P4G personally and Idk if that is a common opinion.

>>378324342
This >>378324429
People were 12 when they played it.

>>378333683
I was 22, actually.

>>378333970
Was it your first jrpg ever? Because boy does Tartarsauce sucks ass.

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>>378333283
That's usually the case where most of the games are really good.
Just like with Zelda, people like the one the most they played first OR the ones that has the most focus on stuff they usually enjoy

Persona 3
>realistic/human characters
>coherent story

Persona 4
>one of the most comfiest/memorable town in videogames
>happy atmosphere

Persona 5
>best gameplay
>wonderful presentation

From there on out it's your pick

>>378333683
It was my first persona but I was 19 when I played it

I couldn't even stomach to finish 4 and barely managed to chug through 5.

3 kept me entertained the whole way through.

>>378334421
P3 felt like playing Thousand arms/Vampire bride to me. I has lots of good ideas implemented in a retarded way + bad dungeon.
I don't understand how someone who isn't new to jrpgs or vns would find it above average.

The only thing that could ruin a Persona mainline game is a canon female MC

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>>378335163
False.

>>378335307
I don't even need to check it out to know it's shit. Can't self insert with a female MC.

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>>378334165
>mfw nobody ever mentions P2

I could really relate to the main character as a pretentious emo piece of shit who does nothing, is better off dead, and no-one notices remembers or cares when he's dead

>>378335307
Maya's the protag in name only though. Both IS and EP are Tatsuya's games

P3 was my first persona game, but I simply couldn't bring myself to beat it. I liked some of the aesthetics as well as the music, but I just couldn't get over how half-baked some of the mechanics were. I gave the series another change with P4, and the mechanics were tightened up significantly to the point it actually felt good. I actually enjoyed that one. Then P5 is my current GOTY.
So:
5 > 4 > 3

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>>378335808
You really missed out on the ending.

>>378335958
I know, I need to go back and complete it some day. I could tell it was building to something interesting, but I just couldn't get over how tedious it was. I didn't have the problem with later Persona games. Hell, P2 didn't even feel that frustrating when I went and fooled around with it.

>>378336115
Well I'm in that boat with you since I started The Answer after finishing P3 and never completed it. Now I feel like I have to go back and replay P3 entirely before I can move on to it once more.

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>>378335958

reminder that junpei (and yukari to a lesser extent) is the only character that actually undergoes multiple changes and character development moments over the course of the story.
everybody else is static and unchanging from the moment you meet them until their big character development moment months later. nothing happens between point A and point B. aigis is the perfect example of this, she should be gradually becoming more human, but she's exactly the same from July to December, then she has a big change on December 31st and then all the rest of her development is in her social link just like P4
when people say they like P3's character development, what they're really saying is they like junpei's character development

>>378335803
>EP is Tatsuya's game
>He doesn't even talk to you for half the game
>he joins your party as the story is wrapping up
nigga what. He's the narrative focus but clearly maya is the protagonist

>>378336502
Aigis and Liz are the worst characters in the series.

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>>378336779

>>378336836
>Lizfag is a memester
Color me surprised.

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Will P6 let me be gay ?

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>>378336779
>Liz
>Worst
Granted her Autism can be a irritating at times, but she's far from the worst character in the series

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>>378336779
That's some hot opinions right there, pardner.

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>>378336779
>Aigis and Liz are the worst characters
>Aigis and Liz
>Worst characters

>>378337050
Anon you're gay IRL, you don't need Persona for that.

>>378337050
I hope not.

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>>378337050
Faggots need to be purged

>>378324342
3 was my first Persona. It's a good game but easily the worst of the three modern Personas. 4 and 5 are much better games and which is best comes down to whether you prefer better social sim (4) or better dungeon crawling (5).

It's nu-Persona while maintaining some of 1 and 2's aesthetic, tone and atmosphere. Basically it's the best of both worlds. Though you could argue that it's also the worst of both worlds.

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>>378337213
If its an option how does it effect you.
Unless youd be tempted

That goes for you too >>378337225

>>378337402
>bad gameplay
>bad social sim
yup

>>378324342
They've been guilt tripped into believing it's the best because the MC is still stuck in limbo.

>>378337050
I think you need the rope, faggot.

>>378337482
It's an useless option. Like wanting to play as the mascot just because it appeals to furries.

>>378337402
P5 does a better job of that and has much better gameplay than P3 and god forbid P2

>>378337482
I'd rather not have fujoshits infesting these threads and ruining them like what happened with multiple series on /a/.

>>378337753
fujos really are the worst

>>378337753
>he thinks Persona isn't full of fujos as is

>>378324429
No way. 4 and 5 are babby's first persona.

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>>378337845
>>378337793
>>378337753
>>378337598
>>378337574
>being this insecure with your straightness

>>378338004
>shoving your fetishes everywhere
Yiff in hell.

>>378326737
PS2 unless you enjoy the game being turned into a visual novel.

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5 is objectively the best due to the gameplay and other general improvements.

Which STORY you like the most is a bit more subjective though. Each of the modern Persona games have their own highs and lows, their own strengths and weaknesses.

It really depends on how patient the player is and what they like personally.

>>378337402
P5's plot is literally a retelling of IS though

>>378324342
i dont like it. Story is too much of japanese absurdity.

>>378338004

>Human failure tries to call other insecure
>Jerks off to animals

Kek

>>378338441
What's japanese about a robot pretending to be a high-school girl, an eldritch creature with a severe case of autism, or the main character suddenly flying for no reason?

Say what you want but the way personas are summoned in Persona 3 is the coolest and most stylish.

Best party members with gameplay not as tedious as the previous Persona games, wrapped in a story that works well with NEETs.

>>378325167
>I personally liked how it was designed like a pure dungeon crawler
Too bad the only dungeon in the game is literally just the same floor copied over and over and over.

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>>378325647
The fact that nobody cares about the first two Fallouts is the most fucking infuriating thing to me. Thanks for the reminder anon, you're sustaining my rage

Persona 3 is among the worst Megaten games.

>>378339123
I thought NVfags play 1 and 2?

>>378324983
https://youtu.be/wMpXGop4dX0
I prefer the reincarnation version.

Persona 5 had the most quality of life improvements to the series.
Persona 3 had the best story though and most of the time when people died, they stayed dead except for Junpei who probably should have stayed dead along with Shinjiro to accurately portray the fact that life is meaningless and that letting Nyx wipe you out without your memories in tact is the only good idea.

>>378339429
>Chihiro survives
>Junpei survives
>Fucking Shinji survives
Bravo.

Why can't you faggots just enjoy every one of the games? Don't pretend you didn't have fun while you wasted 160 hours completing every game twice

>>378339650
I had to force myself to finish 3. 4 and 5 were fun though.

>>378339586
Too many people survive or have the ability to be saved.
Persona 3 already has too many party members, if you wiped out a few of the really good ones, you'd be feeling the despair pretty hard.

>>378339779
I had to force myself to beat both P2 games, but I legitimately enjoyed 3-5. Never played 1. But seriously I don't understand this mentality of just hating something just because you prefer something else.

>>378324342
>replaying 1
>remember I barely understand the fusion system
>lol whatev I'll just wing it
>3 hours in and only have starting Personas and a single Jack Frost

>>378325261
Outside of here it goes 4 > 5 > 3

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>>378324342
dark, depressing story style that resonates within my dark as darkness soul

no, seriously, p3 sad-and-serious style was great. 4 and 5 are super light-hearted, in 3 you just feel the pressure everywhere you go. Although beginning of p5 where you're considered trash by everyone was also well done.

>>378341637
Three wasn't depressing until the last few months when shit hits the fan

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>tfw you're a P1fag

>>378342007
maybe not literally "depressing", but i'd argue that p3 is loaded with sad/negative motives while p4/p5 is not
>junpei being a little bitch
>yukari breaks down on every occasion
>social links die - shinjiro, and akinari social link is dying at the very moment you meet him

meanwhile, every sad thing in p5 (except beginning and ending) is all about "yeah, we're victims of this guy you're working on right now, nothing bad is going to happen anymore, stay positive, cheers". P4/P5 social links also have their problems (obviously), but it doesn't feel half as dramatic as some social links in p3.

and, of course, the ending where in p3 you watch your character slowly dying inside, making last effort with all of his remaining strength only to meet with everyone for the last time. p4 and p5 are loads of happiness with some darkness that's needed for story purposes, but p3 really focuses on telling the sad shit as loud as it can. Sure, p4 nanako or p5 sakura were also sad motives, but game wasn't focusing on showing how sad they are.

>>378327241
I would love to play P5 as a girl but just think of the amount of work that would have to be done

>Have to redraw basically all the animated cutscenes
>Have to add new links and somewhat fit the story to them
>Have to rewrite the events

It's not, though.
People need to remember that death =/= depth.

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>>378342093
Feel satisfaction in knowing you have superior tastes.

>>378341637
>Atlus apology for Fuuka
They were annoying as Fukka,navigators are a mistake

>>378342093
P1,P2,P3 and even P5fags are okay in my book,P4fags should kill themselves