What other great series have a bad game amongst them?

Metroid Other M
Resident Evil 6
Deus Ex: Invisible War
Mass Effect Andromeda
Pokemon Diamond & Pearl
Spyro Enter the Dragonfly
Star Fox Adventures

>>378323840
All true except New Vegas. It was the best first person Fallout. Three and four are way too linear, don't have as many quests, and the moral dilemmas are worse than NV, which is really saying something, considering the Legion was completely rushed and left as the definitive bad guys.

>retard reposts the same op over and over again
>Every time it transforms into a new Vegas thread

What's your favourite weapon in Fallout: New Vegas?

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>>378323840
every series has at least one bad apple

>>378323840
Not that obsidiots aren't annoying but there's no way NV is worse than 3.

>>378323840
Who in the fuck says Bioshock Infinite was good?
The only thing its good for is porn of the chick from it.

>>378324580
>Chrono Cross
>Not Radical Dreamers

>>378323840
>ad populum fallacy

>>378324593
>Who in the fuck says Bioshock Infinite was good?
Everyone who isn't /v/.

>>378324580
I refuse to believe FFXV is worse than FFXIII.

I haven't played XV, I just flatout refuse to believe it can be worse.

>>378324580
Zelda 2 doesn't even come close to the CDi games
And zestiria sucks but its still not tempest

>Dark Souls 2
Correct
>Fallout: New Vegas
Incorrect. Brotherhood of Steel, Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Fallout: Tactics were worse
>GTA IV
Incorrect. GTA, GTA London 1969, GTA III, GTA Advance, and GTA Chinatown Wars were worse
>Bioshock Infinite
Correct.
>Halo 5
Were any of the games good?

>This is an objective fact, only the people mentioned above will find fault in this.
The Sky is red, and Grass is purple. to attempt to dispute this is to openly admit that you're retarded, and therefore wrong on the matter.

>>378324580
Jak 2 was fabulous

>>378324889
>I haven't played XV, I just flatout refuse to believe it can be worse.

it is. You know how the combat in XII is basically "mash atuobattle"?

FFXV's is literally "Hold O (or in my case R2)" to win. A rushed story but this time there is no datalog to keep track of things

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>>378324889
>I haven't played XV, I just flatout refuse to believe it can be worse.

I've bad news anon.

>>378323840
>GTA IV
eh, it sorta fits but it's not much worse than the rest of the series and has its merits over the others. the fanbase isn't as vocal or rabid as with these other games as well because IV was well received.

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did not live up to the hype i had

>>378323840
>The_(You)_triggerer_starterpack

>>378324580
>Jak II

Somebody's shit at gaming. Couldn't handle no checkpoints bitch boy?

>>378323840
And yet Bioshock Infinite is the only one that's actually bad.

Also, nothing in Fallout can be as bad as Brotherhood of Steel.

>>378323840
Replace NV with 4 and you're on track.

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is (you) and (OP) addiction a serious thing?
wheres the fun in reading triggered replies when you won't even read them, the thread is probably just open in your new tab for you to check how many replies you got.

kiss yourself nigger

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>>378323840

>>378323840
that's not Halo 4

>>378324580
>MGS2
Should be MGS4.

>>378324873
They never delivered the promised DLC. The main love interest turned out to be your daughter. The twist was awful.

>>378325412
Right. It's Halo 5. The worst game in the series

>>378325578
>Should be MGS4.

Why? It fixes all the problems MGS2 caused which is a good thing

>>378324870
>argument from fallacy

>>378325803
>MGS4 fixes the linearity and overdone cutscenes from MGS2
yeah

>>378325219
The difficulty is literally the only reason to play the game

>>378323840
That's not Halo Reach, the actual worse game in the series.

>>378323840
Hmm. Halo 4 is far worse. NV is worst only if we aren't counting anything prior to 3 because BoS was pretty shit. I agree with the rest although Bioshock Infinite had DLC better than the entirety of 2 including the overrated as fuck Minerva's Den.

>>378326071
at least the cutscenes make sense and don't try to go into some "deep" "meta" bullshit like MGS2 did.

>>378325143
All of Fates, including Conquest, was shit, but let's not go pretending it was worse than Awakening, alright.

>>378326339
>mgs2
>deep

>>378324889
It's pretty good.

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>>378323840

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>>378326510
according to the fanbase, yes.

>>378324580
>RE6
RE0

>MGS2
Peace Walker

>FFXV
FFXIII

>God of War CoO
Ascension

>Partners in Time
Fuck you

>>378324580
>Pokemon ruby
>>378324089
>Pokemon DP

>Not ORAS or SM
kys
y
s

>People still think MGS2 is the worst MGS game because it's too meta for their teeny tiny brains to handle when MGS4, V, and PW exist

>>378323840
New Vegas is fun I prefer it over 3. But F2 is the best

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>>378323840
> Fallout NV is objectively the worst in the series
Oh wow OP, you really are a special kind of fucking retarded

>>378327036
MGS2 going Meta is why it's hated. Raiden being shit does not help at all.

idk, I got less fucked over by save corrupting crashes in NV than FO3. I guess the experience varies.

>>378327254
>Raiden being shit does not help at all.
I honestly think Raiden was a better character than both BB and Snake

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>>378323840
Bioshock >>>>> Bioshit infantshit

>>378327531
>I honestly think Raiden was a better character than both BB and Snake

by the end of everything (aka MGR) he did become better

>>378324580
>MGS 2
>Pokémon ruby
Jajajajajajaja

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>>378325412
>what if Halo 4 is the best Halo ever

>Dark Souls 2
>not Bloodborne

>>378327647
Bioshock 2>Bioshock

>>378326847
Both are right. R/S and D/P were the shittiest games in the franchise.

>>378323840
Every series except Wizardry.

>>378326694
so you agree?

>>378328336
>so you agree?

that the fanbase is a bunch of retards. For fucks sake they used /pol/ memes for shitposting.

>>378327254
MGS2 was hated because it didn't have Snake as the main character and because too much time was spent staring at heads explaining what's going on while going around the orange Big Shell got tedious and repetitive fast.

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>>378328516
>MGS2 was hated because it didn't have Snake as the main character

>>378328469
MGS2's not on OP's pic so the fanbase is irrelevant. MGS4's considered the worst mainline game in the series overall.

>>378325083
THANK YOU

>>378328618
>MGS4's considered the worst mainline game in the series overall.

only by the vocal minority of MGS2 fans

>>378328570
Welcome to 2001 MGS1 is considered cool as fuck.

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Is this whole thread just an elaborate bait for New Vegas fans? If that's the case, well done I'm fucking triggered

Anyway, also add:
>Saints Row III
>Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity

>>378323840
i agree with that list if you take out new vegas

the writing made the "modern" fallout experience not sickening

>>378323840
I fucking hate GTA4 fags. 5 may have been flawed, but it was miles better.
>>378324569
Bumper Sword is cool as shit

>>378326847
Fuck off

>>378328689
>Welcome to 2001 MGS1 is considered cool as fuck.

which is still true to this day and age

>>378328656
The reviews it got were more widely panned. That and MGS4's fanbase is more vocal especially these days.

>>378328707
Only people who never played fallout 2 liked New Vegas. At least 3 was trying to be original.

>>378328816
The difference is that people got over their immaturity and accepted Raiden as a character instead of just thinking the game's not as good because of different character. Lots of valid criticism towards MGS2's design decisions got steamrolled over by the whiny fanboys complaining about the character switch.

>>378328884
it wasn't trying very hard

bait thead

>>378329007
>and accepted Raiden as a character
I would if he had a characters outisde of "whiny bitch"

>Lots of valid criticism towards MGS2's design decisions got steamrolled over by the whiny fanboys complaining about the character switch.
because MGS2 fanboys were using the character switch to deflect ANY VALID CRITICISM

>>378328570
>muh strawman

No that's exactly what happened you underage faggot, you think 12-16 year olds take it lightly if you take away their cool dude after an hour and replace him with what seems like a bitch?

>>378328884
2 is the best Fallout, but you're on some good drugs I'd you think NV is shit.

>>378326207
Halo Reach is miles better than both 4 and 5

>>378328884
5/10, at least you didn't go for "New Vegas is empty and less fun"

And you're still forgetting Brotherhood of Steel and 4 exist

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>>378323840
>New Vegas
That's the only flaw I can find in your list.

>>378329152
The flood of complaining about Snake not getting the lead role for the majority of the game happened before MGS2 had any dedicated fans and was there ever since the release that revaled it.
Even if that wasn't the case deflection isn't even close to being a valid argument about anything else.

>>378329217
Anything even remotely good about NV was lifted directly from 2. NV is fallout 2 recreated in Bethesda's shitty outdated engine, released 2 years early and with no bugfixing.

>>378329386
>And you're still forgetting Brotherhood of Steel and 4 exist
I'm not OP, but NV is worse than 4.

>>378323840
Best

Souls: Demons
Fallout: Honestly can't decide between 1 and 2, they seem equal to me
GTA: Chinatown Wars, that drug running
>bioshlock
Halo: CE because it's on PC

>>378329568
>Even if that wasn't the case deflection isn't even close to being a valid argument about anything else.

except on /v/ I have listed complaints against MGS2 but just because one of them was that I did not like Raiden (I even mentioned I didn't care he replaced Snake, it's that he was bad on his own) the entire post was ignored in favor of the "MUH SNEAK" straman the fanbase loves to spew out

>>378323840
Okay kiddo.
First off, you not liking a game, doesn't mean it's "bad". You can like a bad game, and hate a good game. Your personal opinion on the game doesn't affect it's quality. All these titles are solid games from a technical standpoint so they aren't bad. When you're basing your opinion on subjective areas of a game (story, multiplayer, how you feel it fits against other games in a series, graphics, soundtrack) rather than the objective qualities of the game (game stability, responsiveness of controls, completeness of title) you are fucking up. People like you are the reason modern gaming "journalism" is so fucked up. You confused whether you like something with whether or not your potential audience will like something. You found the story boring? Fine, but others may love it. That's not part of a good or bad game. Does it fucking run without crashing? When you tell your character to do an action, does it do it fluently and consistently? Does the game naturally conclude it's experience as intended, or is it rushed or cut up for DLC? Learn the difference.

>>378329351
Not really, Halo 4 and 5 suck but at least you can at times have fun playing them, Reach just played like shit out the gate. to make matters worse not even one part of that game was good so I had nothing to fall back on. Halo 1 campaign and sometimes mp, Halo 2 mp, Halo 3 campaign, and mp, Halo 4 campaign, Halo 5 mp, and Halo Reach nothing because both campaign and mp were shit. Reach is my least played Halo game.

>>378329710
>but NV is worse than 4.
No.

12/10 bait
I'm mad
(you)

>>378323840
>BioShock Infinite
>Vocal minority

Hate to tell you this but it's popular as shit.

>>378324580
>zelda 2
nigga what the fuck

>>378324580
Jak 2 doesn't belong there unless we're doing this thing where we pretend a game doesn't exist

>>378329710
>Anything even remotely good about NV was lifted directly from 2
It's part of the same series, you mong. It should be utilizing what made the previous games good and adapting them. FO4 completely ignore those features and did it's own terrible thing.

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>>378323840
>San Andreas to GTA IV
>"look at our nice graphics"
>why can't I swim, change my hair, workout, or fly
>"look at our cool graphics"

>>378329887
>2001
>on /v/
underage pls

>>378327598
I also found HL2 extremely dissapointing

>>378323840
wtf i hid this thread already
oh wait that was yesterday

>Dark souls 2 has the best gameplay
>GTA 4 has the best gameplay
>New vegas is exactly like 3 so it's a moot point
>infinite is shit

>>378324580
MGS2 should be Peace Walker
FFXV should be XIII
Silent Hill Homecoming should be Book of Memories
Star Fox Adventures should be Zero

>>378330006
>Halo 4 campaign
>Halo 5 multiplayer
>good

Reach had decent maps, custom games, still had classic Halo physics, didn't fuck up the lore (well it did a bit but not to 343's extent) or the art style, had a diverse campaign and more gamemodes than 4 and 5.

>>378330623
>Reach had decent maps
It had the worst maps in the entire series

>still had classic Halo physics
That's subjective, grenade jumps weren't as affected anymore, and the fucked up movement speed and jump height.

>didn't fuck up the lore
While I'm not a bookfag they actually did, worse. Reach was not only inconsistent with the lore but it was also inconsistent with Halo 1-3 (where it actually mattered).

>or the art style, had a diverse campaign
But it did not to Halo 4 and 5 extent in the art style department but Reach had one of the worst most boring and dull campaigns in the entire series that tries to force emotion from the players but instead leaves a whole lot of nothing.

>>378330178
this, fuck gta4

>>378325597
Well memed.

>>378323840
>DS2

One fucking day all you plebians will get it.

>>378324889

XIII is far far far worse than XV. For starters, you walk down a hallway for the entire length of XIII, at least in XV you have choices on where to go and what to do for the entire length of the game.

>>378334950
until it turns into a linear corridor stealth game, anyway

>>378335105
That is more fun than the entirety of the XIII trilogy. I seriously don't get the chapter XIII bitching. I honestly don't. I was bracing for the fucking worst from what I had heard. And I actually really enjoyed it, despite it being so different from the rest of the game. That's rarely done in a JRPG of this scope.

>>378335427
they fixed Chapter 13 at like March

>>378335685
I know, but I got the game at launch and went through vanilla ch 13 and didn't understand what the big deal was.

>>378327598
Is it just me or hl2 felt like an extended tech demo for the Source Engine
Also Episode 2>Hl2>episode 1

>>378325143
hyped for red headed thighhighs, then her english va was 30 year old smoker

>>378323840
Bioshock is shit all the way through.

>NV
>the worst FO

Is this some kind of bait thread? I mean you're right about DaS2 and GTAIV.

>>378335774

Chapter 13 was like a call back to XIII. It wasn't fun and it was a long slog a bullshit. But it makes sense why they did it story wise. Speaking of, the story in XV actually makes sense even with the incomplete feeling. Just try to make sense of the god awful XIII story. You can't.

>>378327598

Like milk.

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>>378336028
I thought it was real tense, and made me see the kind of antagonist Ardyn was. It was also obvious how heavily they were aping XII, and ch 13 felt like going to Draklor Laboratory in XII but as a horror game.

>>378323840
Mario Sunshine should definitely be on the list

>>378324583
Hell, it's nowhere near as bad as 3 or 4 were, but it is still not quite as good as 1 and 2. It's pretty obvious that whoever calls NV the worst entry in the series is baiting, since there's literally no way in hell you've played it without playing 3 or 4 first.

>>378324580
>DmC
>not DMC 2
I know you hate how edgy the reboot is, but it is a well-made and solid game, unlike 2.

>>378323840
>4
I think you mean SA. Everyone knows 5 is the best.

>>378336995
Haven't played 4 but have played 3 and NV, hated both but 3 is better

>>378337067
the difference is no one tries to defend 2

>>378324580
>Chrono Cross
There's only three games in the series, so meh. I've never played Radical Dreamers so meh.
>FFXV
Nope. FFIII is the worst of the main series.
>Links Adventure
Only if you ignore the CDi games... and Crossbow Training...

Am I the only one who kinda enjoyed MGS4's gameplay?


The main issue was the million cutscenes, even for a MGS game.

And I'm disappointed that the Octocamo never made a reappearance in any game. Would be tight in MGSV as a reward for beating the game.

>>378325803
MGS4 is a long fanwank that attempts to solve everything from the entire series, including things that didn't need to be solved, and fails miserably.
It also has minimal gameplay, all of which is shit anyway.

>>378326694
who is that girl?

In this thread we list things Dark Souls 2 did that were far better than Dark Souls 3. I'll start:

>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights

>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you, and the heal isn't instantaneous meaning trying to chug while someone is sticking close to you will result in death

>Stamina regeneration is tied to weight, so a character at 10% burden will recover their bar faster than a character at 70% burden, giving an advantage and a reason to make a low burden character

>Poise exists and armor provides relevant, but not overpowering damage reduction, giving an advantage and a reason to make a high burden character

>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks

>Can only perform four rolls before running out of stamina

>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina

>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill

>Power stance allowing for unique combinations of dual wielding and unlocking an alternative moveset for weapons

>Being able to use the full moveset of a weapon in your off-hand including running, rolling, backstepping, etc. attacks rather than just being able to do a basic R1 swing and blocking with the weapon as it is in Ds3 (lmao who would ever want to weapon block)

>Bell Tower covenant providing two unique optional areas to PvP for Titanite Chunks, Slabs, and Twinkling, making farming for upgrades fun

>Bonfire ascetics to replay bosses you like and or gain items from NG+ and beyond without grinding through the whole game again

>>378337257
MGS4 had phenomenal gameplay, sneaking in to a camp and then choosing which army to side with or just going full stealth and not siding with either was great. The gunplay was fantastic and there were tons of cool weapons and items to play around with. Remove the story and the game is nearly perfect
>>378337230
I actually love Links Adventure and as I get older can't stand the other games. Fighting the knights with the shields was and is incredible

>>378323840
>GTA IV
>Successfully made a generational jump that was actually fantastic even with all the hype
>Allowed Rockstar to plant their feet firmly in the next generation
>Got 9's and 10's from everyone around
>Is one of the top TECHNOLOGY games
>You think GTA 2 is a higher quality game

>>378324421
Most of NV's quests are shit and it doesn't really have moral dilemmas, which is good because those usually suck in rpgs.

>>378337230
>FFIII
I could give you II or XIII, but III was the evolution of I and in terms of mechanics they were doing the best they could do for an NES game. XIII doesn't have that excuse, and its sequels didn't fix much of what was fundamentally wrong with the game.

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>>378337067
>but it is a well-made and solid game

>>378337302
>including things that didn't need to be solved
the stuff from 2 needed to be solved.

>>378337303
some /pol/ meme

>>378337872
II was great though, people were just freaked out by how different it was

>>378338351
The stat growth system is heavily flawed in execution. It makes sense on paper, but it should've been implemented instead as a stat bonus upon leveling up traditionally. That's really my biggest gripe with the game, everything else, the music, the characters, the locations, dungeons, everything else I loved. I just wish there was some fan patch that made those changes.

>>378323840
>new Vegas
>GTA iv
>not the best in their respective series
Wew lad

>>378323840
GTA IV is my favorite game in the series because my only interest in GTA games to begin with was getting to drive around and crash into things, with the top-tier physics in GTA IV none of the other downsides mattered.

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technically, all GTA games are nigger simulators, I don't really comprehend how one could be better or worse than another

and technically, all Halo games are console games made for 10 year olds, I'm not sure how one could be better or worse than another

even people who acknowledge that new vegas is not the best 'game' in the series, understand that it's far better in terms of story and worldbuilding, so thats low quality trolling

>>378337620
Importance =/= quality.
SMB was one of the most important games ever made, but SMB3 is a better game in terms of quality.

>>Got 9's and 10's from everyone around
>Review scores matter

>>378324580
>Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One

Literally who

>>378326314
The BSI DLC has to be the worst shit I've ever played, worse than basegame Infinite and much worse than any other previous BioShock title.

>>378340151
Never played it.

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>>378324580
Quality bait.

>>378324580
>Jak II
>MGS2
>shit