How did PC go from starting out in last place to finishing

>>378311810
>Trinity
>Four games

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>>378311878
>M&B2
>coming out

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>>378311810

It wins every fucking year, sonybros never actually play the games they shill 24/7.

Even if every pc game got lost somehow and all it had left were multiplats and league it would still btfo sony

>>378311810
none of those games will release this year

at least 2 of them will be buggy glitchfests

>some generic medieval shit and a game people will play on PS4

>>378312405
t. butthurt console faggot

>>378311940
it did come out, it's called warband

Three games nobody has ever heard of and vaporware. Fucking neato. Real good "trinity" dipshit.

>>378312405
>A-at least we have Bloodborne, fellow sonybros!

>>378314570
t. salty console player

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>>378311810
>2017

>>378315831
K.

>>378311810
>implying that Cyberpunk 2077 is going to come out this year.

>>378317163
>or next year

>>378317215
>or any year

>>378317215
My estimate: It'll be shown off next year, with a 2018 release date that will probably get delayed by a couple months.

>>378311810
3 of the 4 games are virtually the same theme.

>>378317302
Your estimate is BULLSHIT! Game's not going to come out until at least 2020.

>>378311810
But Cyberpunk 2077 is multiplatform.

>>378317382
What's your point?

>>378317163
>>378317215
>>378317291
>CD Projekt RED CEO: Cyberpunk 2077's promo campaign is ready, reveal will come as a "surprise"
>The promotional campaign (for Cyberpunk 2077) is already planned. Its main element is the surprise, so I cannot even say when it will begin. Simply because it has to come as a surprise.
Soon™

>>378317746
In that same press release, they also said that 2017 is gonna be the year of Gwent, so were not going to get something until at least 2018. Do we get E3 footage this year: maybe, but it's pretty unlikely.

>>378317697
How can it be the holy trinity of pc gaming if it's just the same thing.

>>378311878
Yup. That's what a trinity is composed of retard

>>378314570
You need big daddy Sony to advertise to you to realize you want something

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>>378311810
Alright fellow PCbro. Let's just ignore Nioh, Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0, Spider-Man, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Red Dead Redemption 2, Horizon, Persona 5, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Odyssey, ARMS, SMT HD and Xenoblade 2. Here's OUR upcoming games and it's looking pretty damn good
I just upgraded my stuff, new graphics card for only $600 so I'll be playing these games on the highest setting available.

>>378318408
350 games in my steam library

I'll believe bannerlord is coming out when I'm playing it.

>>378318408
>Nioh
Souls Clone
>Gravity Rush 2
Shit
>Yakuza 0
Shit
>Spider-Man
Not out
>Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Remake, nothing that we didn't have on the PS2
>Read Dead Redemption 2
Won't get it for a few more years
>Horizon
Shit
>Persona 5
Emulatable on PC
>Splatoon 2
Not out yet, looking to be a bare bones sequel with paid online.
>Super Mario Odyssey
Not out yet
>ARMS
Tech demo
>SMT HD
Not out, not to mention we know nothing about it.
>Xenoblade 2
Not out yet, looks to be a rehash of Chronicles.

We all know you cherrypicked, but for fuck sake did you have to make it so obvious.

>>378318878
>Read Dead Redemption 2
>Won't get it for a few more years
Also will be on PC

>>378317746
its not coming out 2017, late 2018 is most likely

>>378318878
So your post was just:

If its out its shit and if its not out yet it doesnt count but if it was out its shit. Wow great job /r/pcmr we did it reddit

>>378318221
Same theme = same game in your eyes?

Are you a dolt?

>>378318408
Good post.

>>378319153
So your post was just:

Indie games am I rite brehs keen to play some indie games on my super computer because it's the only thing on pc. Wow great job /r/cmr we did it reddit.

Isn't Mordhau just a low budget For Honor

>>378319237
kind of

>>378319949
Low budget high skill

>>378311810
Is this joke? None of those are even out and are announced on consoles. What does PC got this year?
>>378312014
But I do play my games. PC bros only shitpost about games they can't have.

>>378311810
I don't know why anyone would buy a PC in 2017

For $900 you can get

PS4 PRO
Xbox One S
Nintendo Switch

You get all new exclusives without waiting ages for a port that is never coming

You don't have to worry about viruses or you PC getting hacked

You don't have to install shitty DRM and can resell your games.

>>378318878
>It's shit because it's not on PC
>it's ok when it's not out on PC but not ok if not out on PC
>it's emulatable I swear

Why PC shit eaters are so insecure?

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>>378311810
>the waiting games

PC must wait race

>>378318408
delete this

>>378318878
>Anal cringe: the post

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>>378320708
30fps + 30fps + 30fps = 90fps.

You're still small time compared to my 144hz PCMR experience, pleb.

>>378321441
30fps vs 0 fps

Consoles wins again PC peasant.

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>move mouse in desired direction to aim your attack "games"

is there a worse mechanic than this?
it's like watching a movie filmed by michael j. fox, literally the "i don't know how to make combat good so i made a shitty gimmick" game.

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>deus vult larper games

If this is the future of PC gaming I'm getting a PS4.

>>378320708
>entire exclusive genres
>peripheral choice
>better performance and graphics
>mods
>backwards compatibility
>free online
>cheaper games
Gee I don't know
A better question is WHY would you get console to play a couple of exclusives.

>>378321851
PC don't have exclusive genres, consoles have peripherial choice and I can play my old games on my old consoles.

Why the fuck should I pay multiple times more to count couple more frames in only some games over playing best games available?

>>378321632
Do you prefer press X to win you little baby?

>>378321603
PC has the most games out of all platforms you dolt

>>378321729
fuck off weeb

>>378322236
>he is paying to play online RIGHT NOW

>>378322236
>PC don't have exclusive genres
RTS, Grand Strategy, Simulation, CRPG, MMO
>can play my old games on my old consoles
Yeah enjoy 240p at 10fps. Meanwhile I can boot a game from 2005 and play it at 4k 60fps.
>best games available
>muh weebshit

>>378322236
PC does have exclusive genres
But I'm not defending the games in them.
Most strategy games, simulation "games", survival games, and other are exclusive to PC.
This all being said, I'd much rather play AAA PS4 exclusives than four different open world PVP survival games

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>>378320708
>paying for online on three consoles
>$60 each and every single game instead of the benefit of playing them for free at higher quality
>overpriced peripherals
>no backwards comparability, limited game selection
>locked into shitty resolutions, framerates and fov

only brainlets have a console as a main gaming system

>>378322472
>RTS, Grand Strategy, Simulation, CRPG, MMO
All those genres exist on consoles.
>Yeah enjoy 240p at 10fps
Maybe on your PC, my consoles play them better, also nice moving goalposts.
>weebshit
As opposed to indie shit on PC.
>>378322392
PC has most shitty games out of all. PC idiots like to count garbage like sausage roll quest and frogger out of desperation.
>he is paying to play online RIGHT NOW
No, payed 60$ year ago. Hardly large money.

>>378322236
>PC don't have exclusive genres

Confirmed underage, mommy wouldn't buy you a pc for Christmas?

>>378322647
Peripherials cost the same, PC ports are usually bad and run bad on PC even on equal price than console. 60$ per year is hardly big money when console is still cheaper.

>>378311810
Are you implying cyberpunk won't be multiplat?

>>378322556
problem is theres not enough good ps4 exclusives. half of them are cinematic third person hand holding games that all play the same.

>>378322778
>he fell for PC scam

Confirmed mentally challenged. What games you got this year cuck?

>>378321851
>cheaper games

Steam licenses are not equivalent to buying physical media. Physical media on PC is dying out, there are a lot of games that are download only now, and with DRM through Steam, Origin etc. to boot. AAA devs that are based enough to release their bigger titles on GOG are far and few in between (like CD Project Red). Also, consoles and console physical releases retain their value to a much larger extent than even physical PC releases. Just look at retro gaming these days. If you bought and took care of console games for the last 30 years chances are you can sell a lot of it for a significant return. There are only a few PC releases that garner similar interest, even the good old big box releases of the 90's and early 2000's.

Add to that the fact that PC parts drop in value like crazy, while some consoles that has been in use for 20 years can even sell for several hundred bucks. The high-end GPU you bought 3 years ago is completely worthless for reselling now, so if you want to upgrade you'd have to sell it at less than half the price of the latest bang for buck cards in the 200$ range.

>>378322297

no, i prefer dmc3.

>>378322892
Nice meme, even the worst ports are better than the console versions i.e. dark souls. $60 a year adds up over time, combined with the games being more expensive you could put that money towards a new gpu every 3 years and play games at the maximum settings.

>All those genres exist on consoles.
Never saw a grand strategy game on console. Those genres are mostly exclusive to PC, didn't realize I could play Total War Warhammer or Age of Decadence on console.
>my consoles play them better
Delusion. You're looking at 720p 20-30 fps for last gen and even lower for previous generations.
>As opposed to indie shit on PC.
As opposed to everything on PC because it has the largest library by far.

>>378323159
Meant for >>378322751

>>378322957
In the last two months or so i've played and completed deus ex: md, nier automata, prey, doom 2016, quantum break, total war warhammer, zero escape series.

Know the best part? I've only paid for total war warhammer. How much to play these on consoles, you would need several consoles and then shell out a couple hundred bucks for the games and pay the online fees.

>>378322995
Consoles ARE DRM you idiot. Do you think you own the physical games you own? You own a license just like on Steam. It's still better to buy a video game on Steam because you play it on any PC you own. Enjoy getting fucked when you buy a new console and it doesn't have backwards compatibility

>>378323105
>even the worst ports are better than the console versions

They don't, they even gets less scores on metacritic because horrible performance. Also nice justification with ports.

>>378323159
>Never saw a grand strategy game on console
Nobunaga ambition for example. Check info before responding.
>720p 30fps
Just before you said 10fps. How do you expect me to take you seriously when you move goalposts? Also irrelevant argument.
>As opposed to everything on PC because it has the largest library by far.
Name at least 5 good exclusives released on PC this year then. Shouldn't be too hard when it gets most games right?

>>378323474
Baically almost all of those games are on consoles. You bought dead overpriced scam that gets no games and you payed for it far more than I for online.

>>378323159
Well, when Diablo 3, Divine Divinity and Torment Tides of Numenera also come out on consoles, and console games are ported over to PC more and more, you can't deny that the PC-console gap has been closing more and more since the ps360 era.

>>378323490
>you don't own console but own PC

PC fuckbois are mentally challenged I swear. You can't even fucking exchange and resell your game on steam because fucking DRM. This is not issue on consoles.

>>378323501
>They don't, they even gets less scores on metacritic because horrible performance. Also nice justification with ports.

Thats because pc users dont eat shit. The worst ports are still better than the console versions, prove me wrong. They still run at higher resolutions, framerates, settings and have more peripheral options.

show me ONE game where the pc version is worse than the console version

>>378323723
>Thats because pc users dont eat shit.

But they do. For example No Man's Sky is one of the best system seller.

>prove me wrong

I already did. They also mostly run on worse framerate and graphics, even on 400$ PC.

>>378323591
I doubt it, my PC is six years old (2500k stronk) and can still play games at 1080p/60fps on ultra settings with a simple $250 gpu upgrade.

As I said you would need multiple consoles to play those games on consoles and shell out for multiple online fees. Not to mention I wouldnt even play those games on consoles, playing deus ex, prey, doom (or any fps) on a controller is an inferior experience.

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>>378323591

>>378323490
Retard, I can sell my physical ps4 games to anyone. I own those physical discs. I can't sell my digital purchases, of course (at least not without selling the whole PSN account which is against TOS), but that's not what I'm talking about. Name a AAA PC game you now can buy physically and NOT have to activate by code through a DRM-platform like Steam? That makes reselling the installation disks pointless as the next person needs to buy another activation code anyway. This is not the case on consoles, even though the asshats at microsoft tried to implement such a system with the Xboner.

>>378323848
No Man's Sky being a system seller has nothing to do with bad ports. It was a best seller on everything.

>>378323948
Except this is a lie. 400$ PC performs really bad compared to PS4 Pro. Mostly because of bad inferior ports that provides inferior experience.

>>378324045
It has to do with PC playes standards. Stop moving goalposts.

>>378323501
>Nobunaga ambition for example. Check info before responding.
Still doesn't invalidate what I said. Can I play Stellaris on console?
>Just before you said 10fps. How do you expect me to take you seriously when you move goalposts? Also irrelevant argument.
You're so autistic you don't understand hyperbole. It's still objectively better to play old games on PC.
>Name at least 5 good exclusives released on PC this year then.
"Muh exclusives" is the last dying breath of the console tard. PC doesn't need exclusives because it has the best version of every game. Every game I would list you would call shit anyway.
Kill yourself.

>>378323682
>>378324024
Good job ignoring everything I said imbeciles.

>PC is da best look at those cool 2017 games
>anon, those games are not out and they are not exclusives
>fuck off! Le frames in old console ports XD

What?

>>378323053
>shitty game noone cares about

besides most of the game in op u can change the controls you console faggot

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>>378324085
My PC is a lie? More like you dont know what the fuck you're doing. You dont build a $400 PC unless you want to play on console settings (900-1080p, medium/high, 30fps).

You invest a little more into a PC ($600-700) and get way more out of it and is cheaper in the long run. I've been using this PC playing games at max settings when you was still on your ps3/360 and six years later im still sitting here playing at higher settings.

>>378318289
Remind me again what the Holy Trinity is composed of again?

>>378323501
exclusivity is literally artifical scarcity and it does nothing but fuck over the consumer by holding games hostage to their platforms: celebrating exclusivity is a sign of blind fanboyism if i ever saw any.

>>378324185
>Still doesn't invalidate what I said
Yes it does you PCretin, I posted example of Grand Startegy game why you said they don't exist. Every time you got btfo you move goalposts to something else. It's pathethic.
>You're so autistic you don't understand hyperbole. It's still objectively better to play old games on PC
No, it's not. Also again, goalposts moving.
>"Muh exclusives" is the last dying breath of the console tard
Except they don't. Consoles gets massive amount of exclusives PC can't even play.
>PC doesn't need games
Yeah, it's shitposting petition machine for autists like you.
>Every game I would list you would call shit anyway.
We know because you are butthurt PC autist mad because people have better system and games than you.

>>378311810
>implying cyberpunk 2077 is ever coming out

>>378311878
As if Cyberpunk would come out this year baka

>>378323501
>Name at least 5 good exclusives released on PC this year then
Divinity original sin 2
Everspace
Rising storm 2 vietnam
Dead Cells

>>378324615
No, having best games is best reason to own gaming platform. In fact this is all that matters.

>>378324357
>no timestamp
>cheaper

PC not only cost more but you also have to upgrade it more often than consoles because of bad ports. PC games don't have physical option so you lose ability to sell them or exchange for free with friends.

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>>378324085
750ti is bargain bin toaster tier and outperforms ps4.

ps4 version runs 20-30fps

honestly it just sounds like you're mad you cant invest into a pc.

>>378324795
Doesn't count

>>378324671
Not an argument.

>>378324185
You're the fucking imbecile here. The "DRM" of a ps4 game is tied to the disc only. If you install the game and remove the disk, you can't play it. But anyone who has the disk, can install and play from it on any console. Therefore the games can be resold as much as you want. Ownership is tied to the physical media itself. Get that through your thick PCkek skull. It's no different than on older consoles without a harddrive where games had to run from the games themselves. This is not the case at all on PC anymore.

And keeping older systems is a viable option if there is no backwards compatibility. Unless they implement that by hardware, I don't really care for it anyway. Why the fuck would I want to play my physical games through some shitty, laggy emulation on a newer console when I can play it on real hardware?

>>378324795
>Post exclusives
>first game he mentioned is multiplat

You just proved my point. PC is dead garbage only most fanatic neckbeards trying to shill in pathethic threads like this.

>>378324185
>>378324795
whoops forgot the 5th
steel division normandy 44
and heres a couple more
starpoint gemini warlords
days of infamy

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>>378311810
-Also on PS4

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>>378325016
Never played it, didnt realize it was, but here >>378325026
i posted a couple more for you

>>378324836
Except it don't. PS4 Pro will outperform any PC at the same price.
>>378324908
>Not an argument.

What?

>>378324982
Consoles are physical DRM you utter imbecile. You can't run a PS4 game on any other machine, meanwhile you play a Steam game on every PC you own.

>>378324835
>PC not only cost more but you also have to upgrade it more often than consoles because of bad ports.
My PC is older than the ps4, outperforms the ps4pro, its from 2011 and i've upgraded it once. (580>980). Still cheaper than online fees, nevermind more expensive games.

>PC games don't have physical option so you lose ability to sell them or exchange for free with friends.
Good thing im not in school anymore so I dont need to sell games for chump change. You know its easier to exchange games on PC, literally get a usb stick or better a external hard drive and load that shit up with games. Or just send a friend the torrent link.

Show me a "bad port" that I cant run on my 6 year old processor. More likely I can run it at 1080p/60fps.

>>378325157
Not an argument.

>>378325154
You also posted games that are not out like Everspace. How long are you going to keep baiting?

>>378324371
Jesus, God, The Ghost and Mary

>>378318408

Only one i actually am going to miss on that list is RDR 2, i won't lie to you... but it's just one game.

I might add the spiderman one but it is doubtful since there is never been a good spiderman game so i have my reservations.

As for Nioh it's just another souls clone. I know you guys like to think Bloodborne and Nioh are nothing like Souls because "gun instead of shield" and whatnot but it's the same shit the same way Uncharted and Tomb Raider are kind of the same shit. Not exactly but close enough...

As for KH i am over the hype. It's been too long, i expected 3 on the PS3 just as i expected versus on the PS3... now it's been 10 years and i rather play new IPs. I would play it if i could, don't get me wrong, but it's not a console seller.

Besides if i ever go back to PS, say with the PS5 at some point i would get them since it seems is the only way consoles can actually have a decent library these days.

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>>378325291
Hows it feel to be retarded anon

>>378325194
>My PC is older than the ps4, outperforms the ps4pro, its from 2011 and i've upgraded it once. (580>980). Still cheaper than online fees, nevermind more expensive games.

Your PC costed more than PS4Pro and performs worse. You payed more to get inferior experience.

>Good thing im not in school anymore
>money don't count suddenly it's ok to pay more, I'm not at school XDDD

>>378325276
Not an argument and butthurt.

>>378325393
Not an argument.

>>378325570
Not an argument,

>>378325481
>>378325570
>>378325616
Just fuck already

>>378320708
I can't pirate console games.
In the long run I'm actually saving money if I get a PC

>>378325481
You didn't name a game where my PC would run worse because I can look up a benchmark and prove you wrong within minutes. Mad you cant get a PC for some reason.

>>378325481
Not an argument.

>>378324795
>multiplat
>rising storm clone
>indie shit android tier game

Fuck, I'm selling my PS4.

>>378324085
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7c9hLD

A $425 PC build that would run Witcher 3 and Dark souls 3 at 1080p / 60fps, that would be double the framerate available on PS4 pro. Not to mention there is no stuff like decreased max amount of NPCs allowed on screen at once like on consoles.

>>378311810
>All of them on coming to consoles too

PC just keeps #winning

>>378324836
>it outperforms the ps4 in my cherrypicked list

Asswipe, try running a newer demanding game on a fucking 750ti with a CPU in the similar bargain price range. Try running Ghost Recon at 1080p 30fps without tweaking it to much lower settings than the optimized console versions. Try running Dishonored 2 and Deus Ex Mankind Divided. PeeCee-mongoloids always inflate better performance in some cherry picked game to thinking their garbage 150$ GPU outperforming the ps4 overall. Console hardware is better price-performance, just get over it.

>>378325709
Again, 400$ console outperform 400$ PC. I don't give a fuck about your imaginary PC with your imaginary price. Stop moving goalposts.

>>378325481
He actually saved thousands due to no online fee and zero cost for singleplayer games.

>>378325825
>Deus Ex Mankind Divided
You speak of cherry picking and then just so happen to pick a game that's optimized like shit.

>>378325825
>optimized console versions
Top kek
Dishonored 2 literally runs at 20fps

>>378325787
Except it won't. Also PS4Pro is cheaper.

>>378325142
Mordhau is PC exclusive, stay small son

>>378325928
>thousands

Online fee cost me 60$ not thousands. He lost more on more expensive hardware, controllers not included in price and lack of physical copies.

>>378325904
Nice changing the subject, no one was talking about exact similar price because you pay out the ass for other things on consoles. Everyone knows you invest a little more into a pc because you get so many more benefits.

>>378326114
It's not released, you can't play it. Stay cuck PC friend.

>>378326013
Except it will. Go look at benchmarks if you want to.
Also, notice PS4 runs both the games at max 30fps while the PC build I linked runs both at 60fps, so if you wanted to build a PC that only runs the games at the same framerate as a PS4 could go a lot cheaper.

>doesn't have Nioh
>doesn't have Yakuza Zero
>doesn't have Puyo Tetris
>doesn't have Future Tone
>doesn't have Persona 5
>ALL solid GOTY contenders
>only has ports of ancient games and western trash

>PC being the best
>ever

>>378311810
Those are all neckbeard games

>>378326130
$60 a year that is. And assuming you bought the console around launch like most people do that would make the cost of the console so far around $600

>>378325190
How fucking retarded are you? You can run ps4 physical games on any fucking console as long as you have the disk. You own the fucking disk, you own the fucking game, you can resell it or install it to multiple consoles and play from that very same disk. How fucking hard is that to understand? Physical disks DO NOT get locked to any one fucking console, you 50 IQ PCunt. Even digital releases can be installed on up to 3 different consoles at the same time, but that's a different matter. I'm talking about physical disks.

>>378326168
Yeah, indie shit and port begging. Amazing.

When port can't run as good on equal hardware it's inferior. Consoles have best price to quality ratio and gets actual games that are not indie crap with horrible graphics.

>>378325825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0UvrKTTcbE

>>378326237
>Except it will

Nope, even at lowest settings it will have problem to run W3 at full 60fps. PS4 runs games better than PC at the same price.

>>378326287
Persona 5, a turn based jrpg set in a Japanese high school with a heavy emphasis on dating sim elements isn't a neckbeard game?

>>378326369
But it does run equal or better, you just ignore the facts.

Can you back up your statements like >>378326385

>>378326446
Link me the benchmarks. It averages at around 60fps on Witcher 3 - a PS4 pro can do 30fps at *maximum* because thats the cap. There is no way you could spin that into PS4 Pro running the games better.

>>378326358
>And assuming you bought the console around launch like most people do

PS4 sold 60mln. Are you trying to tell me minimum 31 mln was sold at launch? I payed like 300$ for my PS4 with online.

>>378326238
>doesn't have Nioh
Souls ripoff
>doesn't have Yakuza Zero
Cutscenes and mediocre action combat
>doesn't have Puyo Tetris
Tetris? You for real?
>doesn't have Future Tone
Weebshit
>doesn't have Persona 5
Weebshit dating sim

You only say these games are GOTY contenders because they're exclusive, that's fucking pathetic.

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I love these threads, they're such a joke. Consoles at this point are just locked down bad computers. Anyone arguing in favor of consoles is legitimately arguing in favor of screwing themselves.

>>378311810
>those games

Whooooooooooooo?

>>378326446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRuvMDxBGEw

another one for ya chump.

I'll eat my dick if any of those other than Mordhau actually come out this year.

>>378326584
Not all of those sales are individual users. Some people have multiple consoles in a household and lots of people upgraded to a slim/pro model as well

>>378314642
Correct.

>>378326202
I can play it in 2 months little man

>>378326591
LITERALLY sour grapes.

Stay cucked. Maybe you can buy a PS4 to play some of the good games, after all you can get one for less than 200 bucks.

>>378326582
>It averages at around 60fps on Witcher 3

Source?

>>378326551
What facts? Used parts vs new hardware? Are you this desperate? PS4 cost 250$ not 400.

>>378326643
>tfw we will never get powerpc based consoles again
at least that used to be a cool thing about them

>>378318878
>yakuza 0
>shit

Grapes.

>>378326591
>Puyo
>Persona 5
>Yakuza 0
>exclusive
kill yourself

>>378311810
>3 games that are literally the same thing
>one that won't be out for 20 years
Whoa

>>378322392
>PC has the most games out of all platforms you dolt

*also on console

>>378311810
>multiplats and vaporware

>>378326685
>28-30fps

You were saying something about 60fps. You want me to die with laughter or you falseflagging?

>>378326780
Yes thats an old PC that was built in like 2014. If you built a PC today you could get something like a 1050 and wipe the floor with the ps4.

You said old/$400 hardware runs games worse than ps4, when you're proved wrong you just ignore it. The CPU used is like a decade old and the GPU can be had for $50.

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>>378322472
>RTS, Grand Strategy, Simulation, CRPG, MMO

>>378326591
>ripoff

I love this argument. M&B being "ripoff" is ok though?

Nope, I was talking about better quality/settings/framerate than ps4, not 60fps.

Why would you expect a pc specced similar to the ps4 to run a game at 60fps when the ps4 itself is running it at 25-30fps? lmao

>>378326925
>Puyo

Literally on every platform except PC.

>Persona 5

On PS3 and PS4, not PC.

>Yakuza Zero

On PS3 and PS4, not PC.

Name FIVE (5) AAA PC exclusive from the past 2 years worth playing

>>378326986
ps4 doesnt run witcher 3 at 60fps. it ran at higher settings than the ps4 with a more stable 30fps at full 1080p.

>>378327002
You still haven't showed me 425$ PC running Witcher 3 at 60fps. What's the matter? Why moving goalposts again?

>You said old/$400 hardware runs games worse than ps4, when you're proved wrong you just ignore it

No, I said PS4 Pro you idiot not PS4. Learn to read and stop posting used hardware.

>Cyberpunk
>2017

>>378326774
Not an argument.

>>378326925
Persona 5 is a Sony exclusive. Puyo Puyo is a rerelease so it makes no sense for it to be GOTY.

>>378327098
It is though. The only thing good about Nioh is the combat, the rest is extremely mediocre.

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I will never understand this dick measuring contest between consolefags and pcbros.

>>378327250
No games even use the ps4pro mate. majority of games are locked at 30fps on it, like 5 games got "enhanced" for it

>>378327237
>ps4 doesnt run witcher 3 at 60fps

I never said it does. We were talking about PC. Moving goalposts again.

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>>378326780
G4560 Benchmarked for The Witcher 3:

https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/test_intel_pentium_g4560_rewelacyjny_procesor_w_niskiej_cenie?page=0,39

RX 570 benchmarked for The Witcher 3 in attached picture.

The Pentium chip becomes the bottleneck for the build, limiting it to a minimum of 56 and average of 63 frames per second.

>>378327275
Not really, Nioh is really good game. In fact better than any PC games from last years.

>>378327373
So you expect a PC that is same price as the ps4pro to run witcher 3 at 60fps, meanwhile the ps4 is at 30?

you're fuckin delusional, thats double the processing power

>Being poor and not being able to afford a PS4pro AND a 1080ti
Just imagine

>>378327385
>GPU alone

Are you retarded? Post full build with video.

>>378326385
>A careful selection of cheap or used components from around a year after the ps4 came out, OCing and tweaking just right will give you about the same or in some respects better performance than on consoles. And don't forget muh rebates and the fact that the regular ps4 slim bundle is 250$ now!

If your argument should tell anything useful, any configuration of PC components for the same price should yield about the same results. But there are so many factors to consider in PC performance that any random desktop PC at the same price point is highly likely to perform differently. You really need to know your shit, get good deals on parts and reuse older hardware to achieve what those youtubers do.

Also, please post a fucking 750ti running Ghost Recon at equivalent or better settings of the ps4 version at better framerates.

>>378327467
No I said PS4Pro runs games better than PC at the same price. My god, learn to fucking read before replying ok?

>>378327464
I played it and it's really not. Stop overrating games because they're exclusive.

>console wars thread
Fucking poor niggersinfesting this website. Go back to the cotton fields where you all belong.

>>378327668
But how does it, when its locked to 30fps?

>>378327467
>So you expect a PC that is same price as the ps4pro to run witcher 3 at 60fps

But this is what you, or other PC idiot said so.

>>378327002
>if you keep building a console killer every year with cheaper and better parts, you can totally match the ps4! And it'll be cheaper in the long run, I swear!

>>378327668
>>378327798

>>378326446

>>378327761
>when it's locked to 30fps

It's not. There is no platform that is locked to framerate, it depends on game oaf.

Where is that 400$ PC with Witcher at 60fps?

>>378327553
I don't have such a build, and I can't find videos of such a build on youtube either. You understand how benchmarking works and what a bottleneck means? Combine the results each of the components got in their own reviews and look at the one that performs worse - that's the performance you're going to look at.

Are you still trying to spin this into the PS4 pro running the games better? Because that just doesn't happen.

>>378311810

pc player here

those games (except cyberpunk) look like absolute shit.

>>378327887
Both PS4 and PS4Pro runs games better than PC costing same price. Yes? What's your problem still?

>>378327839
>every year
>its a build from 2014

Even if you build a $800 PC it will be cheaper in the long run, you underestimate the online fee and overpriced games + zero pirating.

>>378327839
>Imagine being so poor you can't afford a PS4 and a killer PC

>>378327913
>I don't have such a build, and I can't find videos of such a build on youtube either

So stop spreading lies. Being a fanboy is not excuse.

>>378327891
One was linked in this thread already? If that 25 dollars extra was too much, you can go under 400 by cheaping out on HDD and taking less ram.

>>378325298
>>378318289
Back to >>>/b/

You catholic troll

>>378327891
Dunno wheres that ps4pro with Witcher at 60fps?

>>378328010
It won't because biggest electricity costs, payed MMO's, and lack of games reselling.

>>378328206
What are you? Poor?

>>378326771
PC doesn't have anything that is better than what PS4 has.

>>378328150
>One was linked in this thread already?

Which one? Show me video with this build.

>>378328183
So it can't? Why were you lying? PC fanboys are this desperate?

every console shitter thread in a nutshell.

they always derail into "but but you cant build a PC cheaper than ps4 XDDD"

yeah well fuck you, ive had my PC for 8 years and all i have to do is slap a new $350 gpu in it

>>378326771
So you can't play it cuck. You have waiting the games.

>>378328103
Either you're trolling or then you're just desperate to not admit you were wrong. Everyone is wrong every now and then, its OK.

Look, component reviews work by creating builds where the component being reviewed becomes the "bottleneck", in other words the limiting factor in the build. A Pentium G4560 with a GTX 1080 TI or a RX 570 is going to run the game just the same because the CPU is the limiting factor at that point.

Only Bannerlord is worth caring about

>>378328340
This, with same RAM, CPU and PSU. It's magic.

>>378328206
Unfortunately, we cannot resell games that are acquired for free on pc. Whats mmo's gotta do with anything? They're dead and sub based MMO final fantasy is on console. Electricity cost is minimal, do the research.

Online fee + $60 for each game will end up costing way more than a $600-700 PC.

You want 10 games? That'll be $500-600 while I get them for free. You play online for 3 years? That'll be another $180 please. A part breaks? Gotta get the whole thing repaired for triple the actual hardware repair cost.

>>378328084
>implying

I both have a ps4 pro and a 2015-grade gaymer PC (980ti). The 6-700$ I paid for the 980ti when it came out sure went a long way, as now I really need to go out and buy a 1080ti to get acceptable performance in the more demanding games. I could afford that, but I'd rather spend more money on actual good games, which the ps4 has had more of thus far this year.

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>>378328302

Here's how each one of these threads goes.

1.
>'PC has no games!'

2.
PC people reply showing all the exclusives it has
>'those all don't count because I don't like them'
>entire genres that are basically exclusive like RTS, MOBA, MMO, 90% of tactical shooters and simulations etc all don't count for vague reasons
>metacritic summary shows PC actually has the highest rated exclusives and the most of them, if you want to look at it objectively
>whatever, none of that matters.

3.
PC gets all of the Xbone exclusives, so you're basically getting two platforms worth of games in one.
>Quantum Break, Sea of Thieves, Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, Cuphead, Crackdown etc
>'n-no one of those count, they're all bad as well'

And this is the end point of the argument. Sonybros basically just saying that every single game in the world that is not on their system is bad.

Do you see why that is laughable?

Now we are moving onto stage 4

4. Sonybros use a definition of 'indie' that is stretched as wide as possible to try and """disqualify""" a load of high rated PC exclusives they can't argue against

>ignores the fact that their shitty exclusives mosaics are half indie if you use the same criteria

This leads into stage 5

5
>'n-no one cares about those games'

This is the point where sonybros use vague definitions of 'hype' to prove their games are better.
At this point the thread has nothing to do with games and is basically just an argument about marketing budgets.
>this ignores the fact that the most popular games on PS4 are all multiplats like COD and FIFA and 90% of their garbo exclusives sell 200k copies

>>378311810
>cyberpunk 2077
Its been HOW LONG since that games been worked on? At this point it might as well be vaporware.

>>378328396
Anon, point me that build that run W3 at 60fps (which was your argument) or stop responding with pathethic excuses making even bigger laughing stock of yourself ok? At least one video.

>>378328532
Then why are you bitching?
You buy PS4 for exclusives and exclusives only. Multiplats all go on the PC.

>>378328571
Is this what autism looks like?

>>378328497
PC games are not free. They cost almost the same price as console one. Unless you use piracy argument but denuovo exist. Also I can steal games on my consoles too.

>they're dead

No, they are much popular than console ones.

>>378328687
I don't know, you're on 4chan

You tell me

>>378312405
>list of good games exclusive to PS4/Xbox one that are not HD remakes
Bloodborne
>list of good PC exclusives from 2016-2017
CIvilization VI, Rising Storm 2, Expeditions: Vikings, Vanquish at 60fps, Bayonetta at 60fps,Total Warhammer, Bannerlord, Mordhau... the list goes on

>>378328571
>entire genres that are basically exclusive like RTS, MOBA, MMO, 90% of tactical shooters and simulations etc all don't count for vague reasons
Like? What recent PC MOBA games got PC lately? Simulators? Some good stuff?
>metacritic summary shows PC actually has the highest rated exclusives
Yes, indie garbage like Gone Home that gets high notes because it's better than other indie garbage.
>PC gets all of the Xbone exclusives
Also available on Xbone. Amazing m8
>ignores the fact that their shitty exclusives mosaics are half indie if you use the same criteria
Yes, but difference is that they do not shill them like you.
>'n-no one cares about those games'
Pretty much yes.
>their garbo exclusives sell 200k copies
No, they sell usually over milion or two, some even couple millions. Certainly much more than garbo PC exclusives. Don't know where you got 200k number. Probably from your ass.
>Do you see why that is laughable
Yes, you being autistic and asshurt over PS4 is laughable

>>378328571
>RTS
dead
>MOBA
Two game should worth mentioning and they're both horrible and infested with 15 year olds
>MMO
Dead genre besides FFXIV which is on console
>90% of tactical shooters
You mean CSGO only, right?
>xbone exclusives
Why do these matter if they're not PC exclusive?

Pc gaming isn't bad but you're just being flat out retarded to justify to people who won't listen to you

>>378328751
they are free, its called torrents. denuvo is cracked on all games worth playing, prey and nier just released with denuvo and are cracked.

please tell me how you can "steal games" on a ps4? robbing a store?

>>378328856
>What recent PC ... games
why do they have to be recent? if they are good they don't stop being good.

>>378328687
The only part that's wrong there is saying that the argument is only over after a while, as if any of these platform warriors ever intended to have an actual discussion and it isn't just a shitflinging competition

>>378328814
>either not out and multiplats

Why PC is such a joke? When game good as Bloodborne or Persona 5?

>>378328627
Would you look at that, I actually found a video with the almost the same build, just a RX 470 which is an older, inferior version of RX 570:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCI9xNd0Fc

The Witcher 3 begins at 11:25.
What now?

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>>378328856
>this mad over a copypasta

>>378328751
Noh him but just one of
>the need for a normal PC every so often (applies to 99.999 percent of people)
>3 or more years multiplayer (about 90percent MINIMUM if you look at the most played games)
>cheaper games (really depends how many you buy)
will make PC cheaper.

The consoles are only cheaper in the most insanely specific unrealistic scenarios.

>>378328918
>le piracy

Again, denuovo exist. Again, I can steal console games from shop.

>>378329001
bb-b-but its $460 not $400! REEEEEEEEEEE

>>378328647
I was arguing with the retard that thought physical disks on the ps4 was DRM-locked to specific consoles. Never ever PC keks annoy me more than the consolefags although we're all autists for even bothering to discuss this.

My point is I appreciate having physical media that I own instead of just having a steam license or being a lousy piratefag. That's why I got Nier: Automata on the ps4 pro rather than PC.

>>378328991
I didn't list a single multiplat and only two games are unreleased

>>378328934
I don't know, because people played them? Why buy dead system?
>>378329009
>this mad over copypasta to copypasta

>>378329154
>games aren't fun if people had fun on them before me
fascinating

>>378329072
Again, denuvo is cracked on games worth playing, also 90%+ of games dont even have denuvo.

Again, you wont go to jail and get raped by tyrone for copying some files but you will for stealing from a corporation.

>>378328991
>what game is as good as Bloodborne?
Dark Souls
>persona 5
Persona 3 + 4
>two good exclusives means that it's worth playing any other game on that system
"no"

>>378329034
PC is not needed. You can use tablet or laptop. Gaming PC require every new part over 200$ word dell rig. Console games are cheaper because they have resell option.
>>378329128
Not only you mentioned 2 multiplats but also very old ones + games that don't exist yet.

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>>378318408
Only Red Dead Redemption 2 is worth even looking at in that list, let alone pirating or even fucking buying lmao

>>378328571
Im sorry anon but you seemed to miss the part where everone called Yakuza 0 shit, it works both ways. I never buy consoles for exclusives anyway.

>>378329283
Baynetta and Vanquish at 60fps are exclusive to PC. Framerate affects gameplay, so the higher framerate makes them different, better games

>>378329283
Lol cost of online then. Obviously everyone only plays singleplayer now despite the most played games all being multiplayer

>>378329273
>Dark Souls
Not an exclusive.
>Persona 3 + 4
Again, not an exclusive.

Again, why PC is such a joke?

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>>378328856
You're just saying the same shit that pasta refers to

Thanks for validating it

>>378329293
You have bad taste, friendo.

>>378329362
No, they are very old console ports. Considering your autistic logic TLOU is PS4 exclusive. Learn what exclusive is.

Bayonetta and Vanquish have exclusive physical copies on consoles. They are exclusives

>>378329154
>dead system
>literally thousands and thousands more games to play and coming outevery day

sure thing senpai

>>378329516
Might aswell play Dragons Dogma 500p 20fps edition on ps3 while you're at it.

>>378329424
>still replying

So mad.

>>378329378
I didn't say Dark Souls was exclusive. I said it was on PC and as good as Bloodborne. But now that you mention it, it doesn't have framedrops and runs at 60fps on PC, so the best version is exclusive to the PC

I offered games that are as good or better than the only two worthy exclusives on the PS4. Does that not invalidate the entire system from existing?
>>378329516
>Considering your autistic logic TLOU is PS4 exclusive
yes, TLOU 60fps is PS4 exclusive. It is a different game than TLOU on ps3

>>378329362
>ports of 8 year old console games running at 60fps is somehow something to be proud of

>>378329534
What games?

>>378329516
>Bayonetta and Vanquish have exclusive physical copies on consoles. They are exclusives

Holy shit, we're entering a new form of exclusives just to try to validate consoles

I actually laughed

>>378329637
It shows how console exclusivity can hurt games

>>378328627
Still waiting for your retort.

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according to PC GAMERS

this is TOP TIER GAMING

mfw

>>378329619
It has multiplats I already played on my consoles, while consoles gets superior games that I can't play on PC.

> is PS4 exclusive

Last time I checked PC friends called it port. You need to check dictionary before arguing. Exclusive is game available on one system not frames.

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>>378328627

>>378329001

>>378329782
Japs tend not to want to release on PC until long after for a reason. It's called piracy, besides the fact that only hardcore nerds have high-end gaming capable PCs in Japan.

>>378329795
What retort? You posted different more expensive build that proved you were lying.

>>378329637
it is, we get to play it properly. Are you implying that I somehow couldn't play it on the piece of shit console years ago when I had one? It's just worth playing now for the first time, and I'll be able to play it at a decent spec in 10 years on whatever PC I have then

I don't even understand what kinds of values or points you're trying to make. Here seems to be the difference
>PC players
games last forever, perform better to the point where many games are only good on PC, has immense library going back decades all backwards compatible, has just as many if not more exclusives coming out in recent days as consoles, has equivalent games to every good console exclusive, just as good price:performance if not better in the United States
>console players
WE GOT THESE GAMES FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!! DOESN'T MATTER IF THE PERFORMANCE IS SHIT WE HAD IT FIRST HAHAHAHA

YOU GUYS HAVE STANDARDS LOL THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T ENJOY SHIT WHILE WE CAN HAHAHA YOU SUCK

WE HAVE TWO COUNT EM TWO GAMES THAT ARE VERY GOOD AND NOT AVAILABLE ON THE PC HAHAHAHA YOUR ENTIRE PLATFORM IS WORTHLESS NOW LMAO

DOESN'T MATTER THAT THE GAMES ARE TIED TO THIS SPECIFIC HARDWARE FOREVER AT LEAST YOU CAN'T PLAY THEM ON YOUR PLATFORM HAHAHA

>current year
>not owning both a PC and PS4
I guess /v/ really is the underage board

>>378329880
>already played on my consoles
NO YOU DIDN'T

you played vnaquish and bayonetta at 30fps. You didn't play the same games I did at 60fps. Framerate affects gameplay, so it's a different game

>>378329880
Every multiplat is better on PC though, PC has exclusive genres and backwards compatibility all the way back to DOS + emulators. PC users dont really care for games like uncharted where you play once for 10-15 hours then never touch it again, overhyped trash.

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BANNERLORD WHHHHHHHHHENNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As if M&B2 or Cyber are coming out before 2020..... also technically xbone started in last place this year.

>>378329749
Yes, we are using artifical points to call PC multiplats exclusives so the same goes for consoles.

>>378330061
i know right?

It's starting to worry me

>>378330061
>owning a PS4 for two games
on my switch at the end of the year I'll at least have three games and the system itself can be portable. I can't fathom wanting a weak PC box with only 1-2 games on it I'd play

>>378330003
I think its more like Capcom got a taste of that steam money the last year or so and just ported games for easy money.

PC is getting more attention from japs than it ever has, like pre 2014 or so every jap game would be console exclusive, not anymore.

>>378330171>>378330061

These threads are retarded but it you have to remember most people in reality just play multiplats available on both, and maybe a bit of league/dota

>>378330127
We were talking about exclusives not multiplats. Stop moving goalposts because PC has no games.

>>378330098
Yes I did. Those are multiplats. I also played Bayonetta at 60fps. Learn what exclusives is and stop calling multiplats exclusives.

>>378330308
on one hand i believe what you say and think "this HAS to be a joke".

But then i remember a part of life where i did customer service and realize people can actually be this petty and stupid and not even break a sweat about it.

So i worry.

30fps makes me dizzy so PC wins by default.
funny thing how consoles still don't manage a stable 30fps anyway.. also paying online..
jesus, what year is it

>>378330180
That's better than owning PC for no games.

>>378330047
If you're an idort and play on consoles first anyway, you're right. I'm not arguing with idorts. But never ever PC fags had to wait 8 years to even play this at all. That's practically a decade of waiting for one of the most solid ARPGs of its generation. The fucking xbox360 and Wii U pack in versions of Bayonetta 2 had a 60fps target, which wasn't met consistently, but still. Only the ps3 version was truly so garbage it became unenjoyable.

>>378330492
0fps on PC makes me even more dizzy. Also crashes and DRM. Jesus.

>>378330459

It is also kind of a waste of money desu. I "only" have 100k spare and would like to get a house before living the richfag lifestyle.

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>>378328856
>sonybros gets BTFO so hard he tries to make a copypasta where he does everything that was described in the previous post

>>378330047
>all that capslock shouting

Dude, I'm not going to wait 8 fucking years to even play fucking games because le frames XD 8 days, 8 weeks yes not 8 YEARS To play Bayonetta at 60fps instead 60 with dips on X360 You are mentally challenged.

>>378330734
Not an argument

>>378330047
Also, Bayonetta doesn't exist as a physical release for PC.
>hurr lasts forever durr

Yeah right, the Steam license will last forever. Their server will never shut down. Totally better than actually owning a physical release of the game.

>>378330885
Yeah because you still haven't addressed previous argument where you got BTFO

>>378330620
>crashes
happens on my ps4

>drm
literally the ps4 itself

>>378330620
sounds like you fucked ur pc up senpai

>>378331000
It addresses to every point in this retarded copypasta and debukes them all one by one.

>>378331000
PC has crashes and much more DRM.

>>378331029
No, PC is fucked up system It also has no games. See OP.

>>378330929
Physical discs wear out over time and stop reading and can be physically broken/scratched.

>>378330061
>PC

What for? It only has indie shit.

>>378330271
Yeah, but from these AAA devs they always do it the double dipping style with a gap of several years, not to mention their ports are still generally shit. If I'm interested in a game I'm not going to wait 8 years for the DRM-license version with more stable 60fps at a higher resolution if I can play it right now on my console of choice.I might buy it again after all those years, though. So I guess they're being smart about it as far as Bayonetta and Vanquish are concerned.

>>378331271
Dunno man I have tons of games on my pc. Let me guess they dont count because its not uncharted or bloodborne?

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>>378328856
>>378331180

All you said was 'doesn't count'

The point about the Xbone games all being on the PC means that PC has two platforms worth of games, for increased value

It's amazing you think that's 'debunked' because you just repeat back the exact same thing he said

>>378311810
>Bannerlord
>Coming out this year

Thanks for the laff, anon.

Imagine being so poor you only have 1 platform to play the games you like on.

>>378331435
Multiplats are not reason to get system, exclusives are.

You were lying about exclusives sales, you were lying about indie games on consoles, you were defending PC with indie garbage like Gone Home. You got btfo hard and don't even have argument anymore because your copypasta don't work.

>>378331391
You have cheap indie shit I can play on my laptop. No one cares about them.

>>378331298
Less likely on the ps4 as the drive only installs from it then checks the on-disc DRM. Taking care of your disc is still important. I still play CD based games from the late 80's and early 90's on the PC Engine Duo-r, so I think the imminent danger of scratching and degrading is exaggerated. By the point the disc-based consoles are obsolote, you'll have more options like back-ups, everdrives or emulation. Then, even if you can't play the original disc anymore, they still have value as collectibles to keep on the shelf, with all the pack-in stuff. The same is true for big box PC releases I keep just because they look good on the shelf.

>>378331764
Most people buy a system for multiplats i.e. fifa, cod, battlefield, AAA EA/ubisoft games

>>378331764
>you were defending PC with indie garbage like Gone Home

Ok, point to the part where anyone mentioned Gone Home apart from you. BTFO.

Oh and tell me how many of the crossplay Xbox/PC games you're going to be playing on PS4?
This is the part where you have to start lying about also owning Xbone for the purpose of this argument, so you can pretend you're not missing out on those games

>>378331950
I'd rather have all my games on a big ass HDD than taking up space, personal preference I guess. I put all my old pc games up in the attic.

>>378332094
Good I'm not most people and don't care what other people buy.

>>378331764
>Multiplats are not reason to get system, exclusives are.

There's no Quake Champions on PS4 so why would I buy it?

>>378332214
>Ok, point to the part where anyone mentioned Gone Home

In your point about highest rated PC exclusives. Lists like that always have stuff like Gone Home or Undertale. It's highest rated PC games. I don't need PC to play Xbox One games. If PS4 ports from PS3 don't count so does Xbone games on PC. PClowns even called PS4 port stattion.

Your arguments were retarded but I decided to answer just to see how mad will you be after your copypasta got BTFO

>>378332294
So does not on PC because game is not out. I can't imagine not playing RDR2 though.

>>378332539
>Lists like that always have stuff like Gone Home or Undertale
> If PS4 ports from PS3 don't count so does Xbone games on PC. PClowns even called PS4 port stattion.

Your entire argument seems to be 'things someone said in other threads' rather than actual points.

So no actual arguments. Pretty sad that you got this BTFO by a copypasta

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>>378330620
most console exclusives don't interest me, haven't had a crash in years and drm isn't a big deal for me.
learn to pc

>>378332539
So how many of the Xbox/PC crossplay games are you going to be playing on PS4?
Seems like you're missing out on loads of games

>>378332881
>Your entire argument seems to be 'things someone said in other threads' rather than actual points.

Damn, so just like your whole copypasta? All of it's topic was about what someone else said on /v/. You are so mad that got btfo that don't even know what were you arguing about and admitted you neve had single argument. It's hilarious.

>>378330590
>>378330791
>>378330929
>no countering any thing I said
there is no "thesis" for arguing against playing games on the PC. You can argue that certain platform exclusives are good, but there is no argument against playing games on the PC primarily and using consoles for exclusives or even ignoring the few exclusives and forgoing certain consoles altogether (which defines this generation, which for the first time has no exclusive gaming experiences on the playstation/xbox worth playing)

>>378331907
wew lad
>pretending consoles have good graphics now

>>378332963
Couple frames more isn't enough to justify 700$ for DRM, crashes and no games. Stop shilling your dead system on me m8.


>>378333105
>missing lots of games

What games? Forza and Halo? They are on consoles, they are not PC exclusives.

>>378333237
The copy pasta contains actual arguments, whether you agree with them or not

All your posts are just 'this doesn't count because I agreed on a rule with someone from an old thread'.

Not even actual arguments about why something wouldn't count.

>>378333312
Much better than PC. Your exclusives looks like shit to be honest.

>>378333384
>double-quadrouple frames is now "a couple more"
>spends $500 on hardware+ online to have a hilariously small catalog of games, all of which will only play on that hardware and won't go onto his next console
>thinks that no games is something that applies to anything but sony or xbox consoles
I mean sure if you literally only play bloodborne

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>>378333384
Why would anyone buy a PS4 that has crashes all the time?

>They are on consoles, they are not PC exclusives

I can play Xbone games on my PC. You can't play them on PS4. You are missing out on those games.
Keep moving goalposts though rather than giving a single argument for why that statement is wrong

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>>378333463
>>378333446
>>378333384
>>378333312
>>378333262
>>378333237
>>378333105
>>378332963
>>378332881
>>378332692
>>378332539
>>378332294
>>378332267
>>378333585

Just direct all consolecucks to this >>378312014

All they play are multiplats available on PC, and all they would be playing is stuff like battlegrounds if it got ported.

>>378333446
What arguments? It only has "someone said something on /v/ and was proven wrong already. Why are you still mad.
>'this doesn't count because I agreed on a rule with someone from an old thread'
This is what you said. It was pretty dumb, I know.

>>378333463
multiplats have the best graphics on consoles anyway. Battlefield 1 and Witcher 3 are two of the best looking games on any platform. Bloodborne looks like shit with a nice art style and Horizon looks great... for anything within 50 feet of the player. and the world is static, lifeless, and has horrible animations.

the only thing which makes games look better nowadays is resolution and framerate, both exclusively good on the PC

>>378311810
Who?

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>>378318408
you might wanna get over yourself and try out those linear cover-based, carrot-dragging, health-regenerating first person shooters /v/ hates so much - might accidentally enjoy them

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>>378333463
sure thing, senpai

>>378311810
Every time I see one of these threads I get closer to buying a PS4, its all grognard shit. If I didnt need a powerful PC for work I would have migrated years ago.

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>>378328814
>games from 7 yrs ago

TOP KEK

>any of those games as good as bloodborne,p5 or nioh

>>378333585
>PS4
>crashes all the time

That's not PC. PC crashes like crazy.

I don't need PC to play Xbone games. You failed to justify your DRM system again.

>>378333607
See >>378318408
All of those are not even on PC. It's basically petition meme box with no games.

>>378333841
just say Bloodborne, you're fooling nobody

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>>378333802
I know

>>378334012
>bad games with good graphics are ok
>good games with bad graphics are not

>>378333864
>I don't need PC to play Xbone games.

Ah so this is the point where you have to pretend you own an Xbox one as well, because you cant actually disprove the basic statement

>>378334064
>move goalposts
>thinking his opinion matters

>my favourite never ever game is now a console warrior faggots fuel
I FUCKING HATE YOU GODDAMN SO MUCH /V/

>>378333638
>Bloodborne looks like shit with a nice art style and Horizon looks great... for anything within 50 feet of the player. and the world is static, lifeless, and has horrible animations.

Both Bloodborne and Horizon looks superior to any PC exclusive released on PC. Most PC's have worse graphics and framerate than consoles.

>>378333262
>but there is no argument against playing games on the PC primarily

Yes it is. I will not wait 8 years to play game because I can die from old at that moment, consoles are much more comfy (inb4 they aren't I have PC plugged to TV I swear) and have physical copies.

You forgot to include the witcher 3. Best game ever made.

Only one platform gets a control scheme that isn't made for orangutans.

>>378334793
Nigger I was playing games at 60 fps 20 years ago. It's fucking pathetic that modern consoles barely have games that run like that.

>>378334012
Darkest Dungeon has more depth than any of those cinematic cancer titles. Thanks for showing again that PC is superior.

>>378333841
>>games from 7 years ago
Yes because otherwise the ps4 list would be empty

>>378334012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxftTXJSVVE