So are you waiting for the Vega /v/?

Ray-De-On
Ra-De-On
Raid On
Ra-Deon
???

I am not poor so no. I have a 1080 and considering how trash AMD is at shitting out anything good I doubt it'll be more powerful than that.

My mum won't let me buy Vega, says it too powerful

>>378306539
>I am not poor
>only has a 1080
You are so poor dude, do you even have a bank account? lmaoing @ ur continued existence.

>tfw looking for a job
>tfw all these sexy pc parts are happening
damnit

Yes because i'm still salty over the gtx970 3.5gb of meme ram, while the box said 4gb. Glad they got their asses sued.

>>378306852
What kind of job you looking for babe?

i have a r9 390, i'll probably upgrade only 2019. so vega+2

>>378306384

I gave up waiting and bought a 1080ti

So now i'm secretly hoping Vega flops so i don't feel like i made a mistake

>>378306384
Yeah, hopefully it will lead to a drop in prices for the newer GTX cards

>AMD
>Good

>>378306493
first one
learn english, pablo

>>378307068
cuck
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cuck

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>>378306384
I just hope their 1070 equivalent is cheaper

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>>378307159

>>378306384
Yes, even if it's shit it will lower the prices of current cards.

>>378306938
escort

>>378307206
not an argument

>>378306384

If you have a job it will literally come down to if you trust Nvidia or not.
It's less now Nvidia intentionally trying to sabotage AMD in video games these days, and more they don't care about video games in general and just focus on brute forcing for data centres.

There's no point buying a "high" end Nvidia when their driver support is trash by comparison it can't really make use of the power available, what it'll come down to is does AMD's new designs get utilised properly (in general, after about a few years because it takes time for games to integrate) for more power, or will you want to upgrade more often to brute force below ultra settings?

>>378307272
Nice, do you offer a full BFE (boyfriend experience)?

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Hey guys this is my spec. I got new monitors coming in. What GPU should I get? Hoping something decently priced and something my CPU can handle

>>378306384
Yes, but only because my 290x is chugging along fine. I'll probably stick it out another generation before I upgrade.

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Computex in two days lads.

Gonna build me a nice elcheapo 1700 Vega this year.

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>tfw too stupid to understand all this computer stuff

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literally what

>>378308241
Underage detected.

>>378307910
Come one man, if you are a tech retard just buy alienware or whatever.

If you are a retard but think you are not, make an nvidia+intel system.

Othervise you mix amd\intel components according to their cost\performance effectiveness.

>waiting for Another Massive Dissapointment

>>378308475
kek'd`

>>378307910
it's all about big numbers and benchmarks. just check a youtube video testing x piece of hardware on demanding games. If you see big numbers then it's good

>>378308390
>unironically shilling for alienware
>also an amdfag
this really overheats my cpu

>>378307615
As long as you don't have a shit PSU, pretty much anything would work. A good pairing for that CPU would be a 570/580 or 1060 though.

>>378306384
Honestly I hope Vega blows everything Nvidia has out of the water so they actually have to try and compete with high end graphics cards

I'm a nvidia guy but I eagerly await the day AMD can take it to them

yes

HDR for Freesync 2 sounds dumb though
like, fuck, just turn down some settings to get a stable rate

>>378308549
>calling someone an AMD fag
>this really overheats my cpu
AMD is the one with a 65w tdp 8c/16t haswell equivalent ipc cpu anon. Ur meme is outdated.

>>378308681
freesync/gsync are only worth it if you have a ~144Hz monitor

>>378308681
>>378308761
Dumb question. Can you have HDR on Sub 4k monitors? I don't understand why it's exclusive to 4k monitors.

>>378308673
That is is they can actually do driver support correct for once and not make it a cluster fuck

>>378308924
It just depends on if manufacturers want to implement it onto sub-4k monitors. Its still kinda new, so it'll take awhile for a decent selection of different types of monitors to come out. idk if there are any already out though

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>>378307131
But if that's the case, then this joke wouldn't work.

>>378307828
I hope they have new mobos there
all the current ones have shoddy phase components aside from this one msi and asrock one
also fucking bios updates for b350

>>378306852
Too bad there is no games.

>>378309530
Even if PC doesn't have anything interesting coming out soon, it has a backlog 100x bigger than any console, and thats excluding emulators.

>>378308519

It's not even that anymore, since benchs are a bit out of whack.
In a pinch you can figure out how to tiebreak some parts on which to buy, but only when you're on a budget. It makes more sense to watch tech channel rants about topics in the industry at the moment.
Like, a benchmark won't tell you Intel is basically end-of-life for a lot of hardware because it's already 100% usage and can't get any better, but Ryzen rarely has 100% usage so it can still go quite a way in future proofing.

There's also the other problem where benchmarks tend to include 5+ year old games that weren't that optimised to begin with that makes results screwy, when you should strive to remove outliers. The problem is largely down to journalistic integrity, because charts that look like minor differences aren't "entertaining" to look at, so quite a few sources will skew, intentionally or otherwise, to make it exaggerated.
If a bench includes RotTR, Cars or Fallout, it's unreliable. And that's just with those three games.
People don't really test a lot of other games largely because there's no real need for a certain level of power for a large majority of them. New games coming out, PC exclusives and shit like Squad/Star Citizen do require it but a little bit of research can mean you can just save ton of money not caring about those.

>>378309841
100x0 is still 0

>>378309841
Yeah but you can play all of this on toster.

Vega will be out but it will already be too late and most probably won't even beat 1080ti

Next year Nvidia will release volta early and will again take up all the market share and vega 2 will again bite the dust.

Why can't AMD speed up their shit and bring better product like they did with ryzen.
They have made every Intel cpu other than 7700k obsolete, why not do the same with gpu market

>>378309996
nice math, 100x0 = 100, now if you flipped it, say 0x100, that would equal 0.

everybody point and laugh at this guy please
>points and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>378310179
Who is to say they won't? Been hearing good shit about the top end Vega sku. Could match or outperform the 1080ti for less.

>>378310179

Because Intel is not just a wounded horse in the race, it's actually gangrenous at this point.
Shit like blowing billions on useless dumb shit, like buying McAffee and getting people to stock your tablets turns out not to be a great idea.
Not to mention they dismantled their "Tick-Tock" system of development and haven't made a suitable replacement for it.

It's really weird how Nvidia still have 80%ish market share when they're trying to leave the games industry and focus on business, with a retarded conjoined dying twin strapped to them.

>>378309530
this meme is so stale you could build something with it
>LOL Thats not on playstation so it doesnt exist

>>378310353
>Could match or outperform the 1080ti for less.
in your dreams kek

>>378310179
SHUT UP

>>378310353
Probably not - but it will drop the 1080ti by ~100bucks because Nvidia as always wants to fist AMD
if it actually does, i'll be getting a VEGA

>>378310410
People said the same about Ryzen and shit blew the 6800k and 6900k out of the park so...

I'm waiting for a game to come out that I'd want to play at better settings than I could with my i5 2500K and 390.

>>378310651
I never seen it blowing these CPUs, I've seen it performing better in some tasks while in other tasks Intel beats it by big margin

So it is barely on par.

Itsitzizt

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>>378310786
Ryzen is the clear victor in the tasks that matter like installing gentoo.

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>>378310963

>>378310651

Not for gaymen


Ryzens are terrible for vidya

>>378310660
this
all the new games are lame and not worth overhauling your shit
but I do want to see the 250-300 buck model

>>378310963
> linux benchmarks
> nothing relevant to do in linux, what should be benchmark ?
> why not benchmark a linux kernel compilation?

you can't make that up

>>378306384
memes

>>378311171
nope but nice meme.

Shut up

>>378306384
I want to get 1600 with Vega but RAM problems are really disturb me. What the hell is wrong with AMD? I heard new agesa didn't fix anything and your 3200 ram still can run like shit with 2666 or abysmal timings. How can you release such raw product which doesn't even work properly with most of existing hardware? Fucking pathetic. Even worse how there's no real alternative of Intel because 7700K is expensive and hot as fuck.

AMD is shit

>>378306384
nah, my 980 ti is still more than powerful enough

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>>378311505
> linux benchmarks
> nothing relevant to do in linux, what should be benchmark ?

Hey, how about that Linux-exclusive Vulkan version of Mad Max?
The kids like games don't they?

>>378307910
>>tfw too stupid to understand all this computer stuff
Same

>>378307615
1060 6gb but honestly you can pick any

>>378311862
what? 3200 and higher is now possible with bios updates. some people got higher

>>378311862
its bios fuckery
literally everyone is complaining that they cannot get their shit to 3200
it'll get fixed but it might be a while

>>378312871
Most recent benchmarks I've seen make it seem like its been addressed.

>290X literally died overnight in the middle of playing games
>popped in my GTX670 while I figure out shit
Was planning to go Ryzen 5+1070 but I wanted to wait till something didn't run

>>378312825
Possible but not guaranteed even on most expensive mobos like Taichi. Isn't it fucking bullshit how your 3200 ram isn't working properly ESPECIALLY considering how ram's speed is super important for Ryzen?

>>378312871
>it'll get fixed
Yeah, they promised fix in may but 1.0.0.6 didn't fix it. You still can't just go and buy any ram. Sure, it's a bit better now but still.

It'll be good

>>378313613
The numbers given in the Linux kernel and mesa patches to enable Vega support make it sound really promising.
Definitely planning to pick one up as soon as the driver situation for them stabilizes.

>>378307910
intel/nvidea = good
400$ card = sweet
i7 = pointless i5 is more efficient

>>378309269
MOE~

>>378314484
i7=pointless

at least tell him it's pointless for gaming. try doing video editing or rendering on a i5.

>>378314484
i5 is a hard locked 4 thread part. Games are already starting to use 6+ threads. If you're going to spend $200+ on a CPU you should be getting at least support for 8 threads with 12 being the current sweet spot.

>tfw just ordered a GTX 1080ti.

AMD is for poorfag shitskins. And babies that like CSGO and other baby games.

>>378314754
>not waiting for vega to release and nvidia making a agressive pricedrop
just

>>378314754
I disagree. I also have a GTX1080ti because I need it for VR. But AMD is alright and usually brings the best price/performance which is the most important task depending on what you want to do with your machine.

>>378314905
What pixel density and supersampling can it run?

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>>378314754
AMD is a lot better on GNU/Linux where you can use the unofficial Mesa drivers. The official Windows driver team is utterly incompetent. The open source OpenGL drivers aren't just faster than the official OpenGL stack (shared between Windows and Linux), its nearly as fast as the Windows D3D performance despite the known massive performance penalties from going D3D->OpenGL.

>>378314972
AMD hw does not know such words

>>378315024
You said you need it in VR.
That are basically the two most basic vidya options for most VR games.
>inb4 he didn't knew VR games had video options

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What do you think will be the excuse that amd pajeets are gonna pop up with when it comes out and fails to come close to the 1080? What will be the next "X thing in the future will fix it!" this time around, /v/?

>>378315124
Not the same guy I just took a cheap stab at AMD

That being said - a valid one

>>378314092
With the disappointing OpenGL performance from all AMD cards and incomplete openCL implementation in Blender I'd still pick Nvidia everyday.

>>378306384
There is literally no reason to have anything more expensive than the 1050ti

>>378314484
>buying an i5 in 2017

top kek enjoy a terrible cpu bottleneck when you upgrade gpu in 1-2 years

>>378315242
future proofing

>>378315275
good goy

>>378315142
Drivers or "games just don't take advantage of/support the architecture right now"

>>378315298
Name one game that is going to come out in the next 2-3 years and will require more than the 1050ti. No games that need a high-end PC have come out in the past 5 years.

>>378306384
Just ordered my 1080, so no.

Waiting for Vega to build a Vega + Ryzen rig with Archlinux or Ubuntu as main and gpu-passthrough win10 vm to play gayums.

>>378315142

Can't wait for even more benchmarks of Ashes of Nobody and Doom.

>>378306384
nah, my 280x still works fine form my needs

>>378315439

Don't forget to throw in a bit of "i-it's nvidia/intel/microsoft's fault that AMD is incompetent!"

>>378315242
Only if you don't care anything about graphics or framerate, in which case why own a gaming PC at all?

>>378315508
>falling for gpu-passthrough meme
>deliberately choosing to have less performance as well as being prone to more problems

>>378308761
lol ignorant fag you have no idea what freesync does or what is go. Get back to your pirated 3DS.

Freesync/gsync makes the lower framerate or framedrops much more playable. There is no point of getting freesync over 100 fps moreover the max freesync range is 75 normally.

>>378315729
That setup will only bridge the gap until M$ shits itself 110% and linux gaymen will be on full force.

>>378315829
>year of the linux meme

You're hopeless.

>>378315443
witcher 3

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>>378315194
>disappointing OpenGL
Are you only looking at the official driver? How much faster do you want them to be?

Go home to /g/, AMD shills.
Stop lying.

Intel + Nvidia is better for video games every time.

>>378308702
You shill the 8c shit like it means something but in reality it's only good for multitasking, which while that is becoming an increasingly prevalent market, it is largely worthless for a purpose built gaming rig, and as such is inferior. The advertised TDP is inaccurate from both MFGs, and as such hardly bears any substance in this argument, and again with a purpose built gaming rig it only stands as an insignificant metric. The only place AMD wins is price, which is fine, but if you're going to spend $1500 on a computer $50 is hardly significant.

The reality of the matter is that the Ryzen architecture is a perfectly fine chip, but it is not objectively better than the 7700k. They both have assets and arguments against them, and they both have different design philosophies and uses.

>>378306384
I have a freesync 1440p monitor, so I want an AMD card that performs at least on the level of 1070.

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>>378316082
of course

>>378314618
I don't need a CPU my RAM is making the job just fine.
Many threads easily.
You product-whore can't get it.

>>378316247
>The only place AMD wins is price, which is fine
Hardly even winning on price.
The Ryzen 1700 which is supposed to compete with i7 7700K is almost the exact same price, despite being extremely inferior (except for rendering work)

>>378316256
Why not just get the 1080?
The cheaper models are only like 100 bucks more than the 1070.

>>378310385
They're using a tick-tick-tock pattern now, and that's hardly significant. They're refining architectures and pushing their boundaries as far as possible before tocking, if anything it's a better model since early adopters get to work out any kinks while later adopters can get a much more refined chip for the same price. It will also allow Intel to push better die shrinks by improving their processes over a lengthier period to better test and develop them instead of simply hammering them out every year.

>>378316440
Problem being is that GPUs are far better at rendering than CPUs so neither of them are really going to compete for that corner as they're both null contenders.

>>378316498
but muh freesync
besides, nvidia needs to get it's shit kicked by competition

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>>378315017
>RX580
>Already real world performance on a new card
I feel old. I remember using the first stacks of the driver, ages ago, before they had a good OpenGL implementation.

Why do people get rustled by what other people use in their rig?

>>378316732
>besides, nvidia needs to get it's shit kicked by competition
This is the only good argument for AMD at the moment. I really wish they would rape Intel and Nvidia, so that we'd get some actual competition on the market.
The companies would have to innovate and Nvidia and Intel would be forced to abandon their ridiculous premium pricing.

>>378316256
Even if there's no performance gains going from 4th gen GCN to 5th gen (which seems unlikely) a cut down Vega 10 would still be easily a 9TF card.
A 'baby' Vega cut down to a similar core count as the 390 would still be 8TF.

>>378316768
Tribalism.
It's the console wars of the PC.

Usually it's just a lot of people from /g/ going full reee because they want AMD to win more market share

>>378316735
I know, when I got my GCN 1 GPU years ago it was because the open drivers had hit GL 3.3 support and the deeply discounted high end cards weren't that much more than I'd paid for my low-end Nvidia card a year or two before.
Sure it wasn't as fast as it was on Windows, but it was sometimes just as fast as my Nvidia card had been.

Fast forward a few Mesa release cycles and it was definitively faster than my old card, and it had picked up OpenGL 4.1 something that had been declared all but impossible.

Now today the card has OpenGL 4.5+ support and is still showing up in benchmarks as faster than a 1050ti which isn't too shabby for a card I picked up for a about the same price as that card three years ago.

>>378310276
it's obviously a console peasant since if they were good at math they wouldn't have gotten a console in the first place

>>378306384
yes, tempted to just get a 1080Ti and be done with the agonizing wait for what may very well be weaker anyway.

Currently sitting on a 980 4K monitor and HTC vive, for older games it manages fine but I need a GPU capable of hitting steady 60fps on newer titles and squeeze a fair amount of supersampling on my VR HMD.

>>378306493
Rah deh on
Is how we say in my country

I'm still using a GTX770 which is really showing its age, I wanted to get a GTX1070 for some time but it's still 380 Eurosheckels for the cheapest model which is more than I'm willing to dosh out

I hope Vega will finally initiate a decent price drop

>>378317845
>1070
Why?
1080 is just about 100 bucks more, and the 1060 is a much better budget option (alternatively AMD).

I only got a R7 370

>>378318342
Its still kind of hard to justify upgrading. Older GCN cards have their issues sorted out and still just seem to keep getting faster.

>>378316010
2 years old and not even damanding for todays hardware

wasnt really demanding when it released either, 970/290 can do 1080p/ultra with no gamenohairworks

>>378318197
the 1060 is a little too weak for my taste and the 1080 costs like 25% more for a few percent in performance gain

the 1070 seems like the right middle ground for me

>>378306384
Yes. I want to go from 1080p/60Hz to at least 1080p/144Hz. Hurry the fuck up AMD.
Still using a Sapphire 290. It's a beast of a card though.

>>378318525
hopefully vega is good, then the pascal refresh might be released at maxwell/older gens prices i.e. $300~ for the x70 card

$400 seems way too much for a 70 card when I got the previous 70 cards for around $300 or less

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>>378307106
>this shill shit every time
>both are literally on par in real performance and features this gen

Literally the only consideration in buying a new GPU right now is price in your region. Buy which ever is cheapest because they are exactly the same real world.

>>378318880
yeah that's exactly my thought
I wont pay around 400€ for a mid range card even so I could easily effort it

my 770 cost like 280€ back in the day

>>378315508
You'll need a second weak graphics card I think since Ryzen has no integrated graphics that you would be able to run the base OS on. If you PCI passthrough a graphics card it's only available to the VM.

>>378319392
Ryzen+Vega chips are coming. Linux support patches are already out which would mean they'll probably be out in the fall.

>>378318437
So just keep it?

>>378310276
No anon, it's not how it works you halfwit gigaretard.

I was recently given a 6gb 980ti and I was planning in using it in a new build. One of my friends is recommending that I sell it while I can and purchase a newer card for better driver support/power usage/longer lifespan. What do

>>378321249
the only thing that seems relevant there is the power usage, the 980ti wasn't the efficiency prince that the 980 was.

the 980ti is kinda old and what's wrong with the driver support? by driver support i'm guessing he's talking about the obsolescence via driver meme.

Ucucuculf

>>378306384
yep, im getting one after e3.

Nah. I have no reason to get one right now

>>378322631
Why

Im not waiting so much as saving up for a complete AMD build. I need a new computer badly Im still on a core2duo