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>Xbox One
>Above consoles that have good, exclusive games

Here's your (You), you meme loving fuck.

>>378295640
Move Genesis up to B
Move Wii U down to D
Move Master System down to E
Move PS3 down to C
Move SNES to its own SS tier

>>378295640
Pretty good

>>378295640
I knew this board was infested with people who started gaming on Ps2. Great system but it doesn't deserve S tier for the sheer fact that it ruined the fucking industry. SNES belongs where it is but PS and N64 should be in the same tier, wherever that would be. Rest of that list is so fucked up I dunno where to begin, but it's worth noting that 3DO could have been something special if it didn't have such a fucking retarded price. Did you know it's the only system with an original console release of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo rather than just New Challengers like SNES and Genesis?

>>378295640
>ps4 above the GameCube
sage goes in all fields

Genesis up to A.
PS4 to C, or if you're going to argue that it's good, then move Wii U up to A.

>>378296154
>that it ruined the fucking industry
this shit again? god I fucking hate /vr/ crossposters

PC and Switch would be ranked S+.

>>378295640
>PS4 above PS3
>X360 above PS3
bad list desu

>>378296254
Don't try revisionism on me you underage fanboy fuck, the attach rate numbers speak for themselves. Ps2 is the reason the industry exploded with casuals and with them, it brought in the huge money sink companies that have ravaged assholes and wallets the world over.

Drop PS1 down a tier
Drop PS3 down a tier
Drop 360 down a tier
Drop PS4 down 2 tiers
Drop XBone down 2 tiers
Drop Wii down 2 tiers
Drop N64 down 2 tiers
Bump Dreamcast up a tier
Bump GC up a tier

Then the least is semi-agreeable.

>>378296370
>if you don't accept my bullshit you're a revisionist
lmao

wii u is above xbone

>>378296481
>Facts are bullshit
Like I said, research the attach rates for yourself you moron. Your DVD player was a gateway drug for casuals to try out something called video games and they stuck around to suck throbbing DLC dick during the 7th gen. But you know that and you're just playing dumb since you're probably one of those kiddies who started with Ps2.

>>378295640
>Bump 360 down to B
>Bump PS3 down to C
>Bump Wii down to D
>Bump Xbone down to E
>Move Dreamcast to B
>Move Genesis to A
Then you have a list I can agree with.

>>378296370
Dont engage sonyfags bro, most people here will execute you if you tell them the truth, I agree with you gramps

>>378296606
>the ps2 is what led to rampant sales of the 7th generation, not things like marketing
I'm honestly dying here, go back to /vr/ faggot.

>>378295640
Change PS4 and PS3 and I'm good

>>378295640
>N64 above GC

It's controller alone makes it absolute shit tier, fuck that.

>>378296635
I really can't help myself. Let me shoot him one more (You) for good measure.

>>378296749
>The gaming industry grew to 5 times its previous size overnight between the 6th and 7th gen with no underlying factors
Yeah, you're still a retard. Who do you think the marketing of 7th gen was directed towards? Not the people who were used to extra content being cheat codes and unlockables rather than a price tag, I'll tell you that much.

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Fixed. This is entirely based on the quantity and quality of games. Gameplay placed above all else in determining overall quality.

Memes aside, I think the PS3 is better than the Xbox 360.
>better games
>free multiplayer
>built in Blu-Ray
>More powerful (exclusives took advantage of this the best)
>IMO better controller

>>378296882
>implying the ps2 had online dlc you can purchase
lmao.
>implying the sales of the ps2 aren't explained by it's function as a cheap DVD player
lmao
>implying your analysis is fact
lmao
wait! I know! the reason why the ps2 was so popular was because of the attatchment rate of the 5th generation! that's when those casuals came in, it's the only way to explain it. the 5th generation ruined the video game industry.
do you have anything else retarded to say or are you going to fuck off to /vr/ like the faggot you are?

>>378297016
>Wii U has more good games than PS3

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>>378295640
>Any console with paid online
>That fucking high
Shit list. PS4,Xbone, and 360 should be moved two tiers down and move Dreamcast two tiers above you heathen.

>>378297160
PS3 has free online and exclusives that XBOX360 doesn't have (people that actually PLAY videogames and not LETS WOCH A LETSPLA ON UTUBE BRO U LIKE PEWDIEPIE? don't fucking care about halo and gears of war tier shit)

>>378297228
You literally didn't read anything I said. I mentioned the DVD functionality being the reason for the sales, but a lot of those casuals and normies stuck around for the game part of things because someone bought all those copies of GTA and sports shit you stupid faggot. How about you learn to read for once in your miserable shill life?

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>>378297230
It's got much better RPGs and action games. Best version of Bayonetta, Bayonetta 2, TW101, Smash 4, Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, Xenoblade Chronicles X...

Come to think of it, the PS3 only really had good games coming out near the very end of its lifespan, and it was mostly a movies machine thanks to Naughty Dog. Maybe I should've dropped it and pushed PS1 up a bit.

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>>378297303
Literally the only thing that matters is the quantity and quality of the games. Not saying that the PS4, 360, or XBone have a ton of high quality games, but having to pay for online really isn't a big deal. Then again, I rarely play games that require online for anything that aren't on the PC. I still have more hours in 100% OJ than I have on the PS3 and 360.

>>378295640
PS1 does not belong with PS2 and SNES. Move it down two. XBONE should be not pictured.

>Sega "Genesis"
Instantly debunks the whole list. Only a fool would take an American's opinion seriously.

>>378297378
what's this? I thought you were done giving me yous.
>no it can't be great marketing by Microsoft it has to be those people who bought the ps2 as a DVD player
anything else stupid to say or what?

>>378297548
America had the best games in the 90s. Warcraft, Starcraft, Doom, Wolfenstein, Quake, Half-Life, Fall Out, TES, Myst, Baldur's Gate...

It wasn't until the late 2000's that the West dropped the ball so hard. In the 90's, America was easily competing with Japan

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>>378297469
>Games are the only thing that matters
Uhh no sweetie

>>378295640
>Xbox 360 that high
anon...

>>378297016
Other than the WiiU being that high, everything is pretty spot on.

>>378297669
>I thought you were done giving me yous.
Just wanted to be sure you have nothing substantial to retort with. It's not like I'm against someone coming to me with facts and proving me wrong about the Ps2 and its userbase, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but since you clearly have nothing this will actually be the last (You), monsieur fanboy.

>>378297763
Okay, if the console literally can't play games, it's a problem.

However, that has long been fixed, so docking it points for the RRoD is stupid at this point

>>378297379
>RPGs
>plural
You named one good rpg it had.

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>>378295640
>Xbone
>better than sega saturn
what world do we live in?

>>378297838
Wii U had a lot of really good games, ignoring the fact that a lot of them became multiplat to escape the dying system.

If I judged a console based off of multiplats, pretty much everything besides the Wii and the old systems would drop a tier.

>>378297896
>Pretending you had "facts" yourself
a shitty analysis is not fact, so good riddance. Back to /vr/ you go.

>>378297983
Wait, did you say you are ignoring that the WiiU had mostly good games as multiplats while saying you judged every other system without taking in multiplats?

>>378295640
Switch PS4 and PS3, and knock Xbone and N64 down a peg. Then I'd agree with it.

>>378297016
Much better

>>378298126
No, I'm saying if I discounted multiplats, I'd have to drop all of the other 6th, 7th, and 8th gen consoles.

>>378296606

Why is it Sony's fault and not the developers that relentlessly pursued the casual audience? The fact that it's a DVD player pushed sales, but GTA and Madden brought in the casual gamers.

>>378296370
I agree with this guy
ps2 normied up everything

>>378298215
Oh ok. I thought you said if you counted multiplats they'd drop a level.

>>378298269
I say most of the fault belongs to GTA3 and Halo. Not really a system.

>>378296190
List was made by a Sonyfag, what else did you expect?

The PS2 is objectively the most overrated console of all time. It's not terrible, but it had less memorable or industry changing games than the original Playstation. It also has literal hundreds and hundreds of garbage shovelware titles, but somehow gets a pass when people rightly shit on the Wii for having the same issue.

>>378298496
It's not right to shit on any console because of the trash. The SNES and NES would be considered garbage, then, since there was very little quality control outside of Nintendo 1st party titles.

Shovelware isn't a factor in whether a console is good. It's the good games that matter

>>378297918
>However, that has long been fixed, so docking it points for the RRoD is stupid at this point
Original models were never fixed and each time they were refurbished the failure rate increased by double.

>>378298669
I didn't buy a 360 until 2009, so I was never bothered by it.

>>378295640
Gamecube to A
Xbone to E

>>378295640
>PS anything
>S
Spot the dudebro

>>378297016
Switch N64 with Wii U and the list is perfect.

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>>378295640

SNES was awesome, but I feel like Nintendo 64's best games had more of an impact.

>>378298941
Eh, I don't think the N64 aged all that well. Most of the games on it play terribly, especially the Rare games. They might have been revolutionary, but only really Smash, SF64, F-Zero X, and MP 1 - 3 really hold up as games nowadays.

Granted, the N64 had 3 of the 5 best party games in existence, I just think the library is incredibly lacking by today's standards.

>>378295640
>PS2
Overrated. All of it's best games were multiplats. Drop to A.

>PS4
Power to the players, I love cinematic experiences, bloodborn, and moeshit! Drop it to D.

>360
Oh man, Call of Grand Theft Madden of Halo. Drop to C.

>Wii
Hurr durr my waggle shit. Drop to C.

>Gamecube
Didn't have third party support, but instead had GOAT first party titles. Move up to A.

>Dreamcast
Even in it's short life cycle, it's lineup belongs in A. If it had lasted longer, it would have been S for sure.

>Xbox
Had typical Xbox shit, combined with some games that would have been on Dreamcast, the best graphics of it's gen, and some games that otherwise were PC exclusive. Move up to A.

>Genesis
Being this low is insane. Move up to S please.

>Saturn
Only a pleb would put this in D. Move up to B for it's amazing arcade ports, and great lineup of Japanese imports.

only correct list

>>378299150
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>>378299248
fixed missing PS2

>>378299291

>I blame Sega going out of business on the PS2

>>378299462
thats actually unrelated to my reasons
ps2 is the sole reason games are shit now
its success is attributed to ps1's success, a favorable contract, and being the cheapest dvd player on the market

whether it killed the dreamcast or not is irrelevant solely due to sega shooting themselves in the foot with the saturn in the first place. 2 commercial failures in a row sealed the deal, but the ps2 announcement is what buried them for good

>>378299558

Honestly I feel like Xbox 360 did more damage. It showed the world that paid online wasn't a one-trick pony, and it managed to sustain a userbase almost entirely off multiplats and Netflix. Playstation 2 was a mere stepping stone, and while I can name a dozen amazing PS2 exclusives off the top of my head, Xbox 360 has very little in that regard. Microsoft sold a failure-prone multiplat machine with paid online, and it became more popular than Playstation.

Thanks to Xbox 360 and its success amongst the idiot masses, Sony was swayed to make paid online a thing for PS4, and eventually even Nintendo jumped on the bandwagon with Switch.

Xbox 360 is the actual cancer of the video game industry.

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>>378298058
Holy shit you got crucified throughout that entire argument kek.
At least you managed to get in the last word though, that will surely help disguise the fact you got well and truly blown the absolute fuck out lmao.

>>378295640
After looking at this list, and then all the replies, this seems to be the general consensus.

>S Tier
PS2, PS1, SNES
>A Tier
Gamecube, Genesis
>B Tier
360, N64, PS3, NES, Dreamcast, Xbox
>C Tier
PS4, Wii, Wii U
>D Tier
Xbone, Master System, TG, 2600, Saturn

No changes for E or F.

>>378295640
Switch Gamecube with the Genesis and I agree.

>>378296154
Autism.

>>378296606
>attach rates
You do realize that like half of all PS2 owners chip modded their console, right? Also NES was THE platform that made videogames mainstream.

>>378299291
Kill (You)rself

Wow this is a trash list.
You should feel bad for being so retarded.

>ps4 A tier, despite having like 2 games
>Wii below 360, despite Super Mario Galaxy
>Xbone not E or D tier
>Wii U not A or B tier.
>Saturn criminally low
>Ps1 inexplicably high

The rest I suppose I can agree with, despite me thinking that the ps2 is a meme and isn't memorable at all.

>>378296154
Really the only correct answer.

I want the "ps2 is good" meme to end.
It's not bad, but not S tier.

OG Xbox is at least A but way to prove OP was too poor to afford both consoles

>>378296338
>Switch
I'm a pretty unashamed Nintendo fanboy, but it's far far too early in the Switch's life to put it in any tier really.

By that logic the Wii U would be S+ tier too.

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>>378296154
>PS and N64 should be in the same group

>>378295640
The SNES has like 3 good games.

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>>378295640
everything else is irrelevant

also I predict the Switch to be an S or A

>>378297016
Now there's a proper list!

I think the Wii gets a shit wrap, it's got some fucking great games, but I do agree with this list a lot.

Even if I'd switch the 360 and ps3. 360 halo is worth it going to B tier.

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>>378296606
This much butthurt tho. Started with a Genesis and gameboy here, PS2 was a fantastic console and deserves its place in history.

>>378297160
>better games
Objectively wrong
>free multiplayer
yeah true
>blu ray
yes
>more powerful
depends on what. The 360 was better than the ps3 in a lot of aspects and weaker in some. Look at the ports, the ps3 is always worse
>better controller
I think the majority can agree that the 360 controller is leagues better than the ps3 one. I despise the ps3 controller

>>378296338
>Switch on the same tier as the machine that has been the uncontested leader of the industry forever
The Switch isn't bad by any means but if you think it has any chance of ever having anything on the PC you're pure retard.

>>378302806
>Dreamcast lower than Wii U and PS4
>PS2 on the same level
>PS3 and N64 with its dinosaur tech ABOVE all of the above
Extremely shit list.

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>>378297016
>N64 above PS

Nah, just nah. And i owned an N64. Revisionism and excuses. N64 just go full fag and think "muh quality over quantity (LOL) and if it wasn't on N64 it didn't exist anyway. Games like MGS and Digimon world do not exist."

>>378298870
This desu senpai

>>378297378
>duh dvd

I thought this had been cleared up?

http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=497

The launch price of the PS2 was $299. At the time it launched in the US, end of 2000, the average price of a DVD player was a little over $150. That's not the price of a cheap DVD player, that's the average price, cheap DVD players were much less than $150 and way, way, way less than the PS2

>>378296154
>>378302654

>the ps2 destroyed everything
>came out in 2000, while xbox came out in 2001
>it was all destroyed by end of 2002, after Halo, DLC on xbox, paid online on xbox.
>DAMN THE PS2 FOR RUINING EVERYTHING!

>>378298496
>gets a pass

No it doesn't. You are literally shitting on it right now, like many others do.

>>378303097
So the Wii must be S tier too right?

Those two need to be on the same tier, since they've got the same amount of quality games and probably similar amounts of shovelware.

>>378302752
THIS

It's a fucking meme console.

>>378299150
>PS2
>All of it's best games were multiplats

Exactly the reason to own it. Theres literally no need to play the multiplats on other platforms

>>378302806
>ps3
>this high
has science gone too far?

>PS1
>anything but shit
Go back to plebbit, FF kiddies.

>>378303205
Agreed, Wii and Ps2 should be S tier.
Ps2 and Wii both dominated their generations and every other generation.

Granted the ps1 dominated its generation, and is in 3rd place behind the wii for most consoles sold so maybe it could be in there too.

>>378299291
>the two years dreamcast had to make a playerbase didn't matter, i blane the PS2 for it failing

Fuck off bass fishing faggot. Also port machine, all those PS1 games.

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>>378302987
>digimon world
There's some hella memes you've got there friendo.

ps1 is a meme and wasn't good.

>>378299558
>the cheapest dvd player on the market

No. Source or fuck off, as always.
>inb4 "my source is my word! You are clearly underage! My uncle bought one for only using as a dvd player so everone did!"

>>378302931
GameCube had pretty much everything the DC and PS2 had.
PS2 is basically the Wii, it sold because it was a cheap DVD player, while the Wii sold because it was a cheap motion controls gimmick machine.
N64 belongs on the same tier as PS1. PS3 eventually had enough good exclusives to be considered good.

>>378299941
Not him anon, but he is right, you didn't back up shit. Now you are just trying to pull the "doesn't matter i won this argument lol" shit that children do.

>>378303314
But we're talking about quality and quantity of games.
They've both got the quantity undoubtedly, but the quality of a lot of them leaves a lot to be desired.

ps2 had some good stuff, ratchet and clank, jak and daxter, shadow of the collossus and mgs and the Wii had some gems, mario galaxy, nsmb, smash, metroid prime, zelda, mario kart, xenoblade and the last story were all easily worth the pricetag and wait.

ps1's games were weak in comparison to the N64 though. I think we can comfortably agree.

>>378303397
Oh yes anon, we all went out and bought PS1's over N64 because we got "meme'd" into doing so. How could we all be so silly? Sorry for making you live in the timeline where it is not just business as usual for Nintendo and Sega. Fuck off anon, you can't even meme shit like "muh dvd player" about PS1 like you can with PS2. Sorry, PS came into a market it was new to and rekt shit for two gens.

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>>378303602
>ps1's games were weak in comparison to the N64 though. I think we can comfortably agree

This fucking delusion.

>360 above gamecube, wii, NES, ps3, genesis

0/10

>PS4 that high
No

Why would you rate the PS3 below the 360? It had so many exclusives in it's later days and most other titles are available for both of the consoles. The only thing the 360 has is maybe Halo, and you still had to pay for online multiplayer...

>>378295640
Swap the intellivision with the jaguar, ps3 with n64, wii with dreamcast and move the original xbox to the b tier.

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>>378303643
It's all advertising like how the past generations have been won.

Look at the ps4, it's got like 3 games to it's name, but people can't buy it fast enough. Also the attach rate to worthwhile games is dreadful.
Didn't bloodborne struggle to sell 1mil copies when there were about 20 or 30 mil ps4s in the wild?

People are idiots and will buy whatever is advertised to them.

>>378303785
Name some worthwhile ps1 exclusives then

We still know the N64 titles that are worthwhile because they're still relevant

>>378303984
WOAH ANON. ITS ALMOST LIKE PEOPLE STOPPED CARING ABOUT FIRST PARTIES AND EXCLUSIVES OR SOMETHING!?

Anyway anon, you are literally saying Sony beat both Nintendo and Sega because they cared more about their product or something? Hmm... Must be why all the devs said fuck nintendo too, it wasn't like they were notoriously opressive and unhelpful to devs or anything was it?

Im sorry, but your parents choosing you an N64 was not some "informed and tasteful" choice. We were not "fanboys" no kid i knew with a playstation had a problem with owning a gameboy or gameboy color. That was a given so fuck off with your fanboy shit.

>PS babs

>>378304036
Why bother you will just call them shit. Everyone knows what Crash, Spyro, Tekken, silent hill, digimon, ape escape are just fine, sorry that Nintendo could rely on nearly two gens of IP's when Sony was just getting their first.

And nobody fucking cared about exclusives anyway. What? MGS, Street fighter, Final Fantasy, RE1 & 3 wern't exclusives?? Wanna know where i COULDN'T play those multiplats though?? Oh yeah! The N64! It didint even get those.

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>>378304036
Final Fantasy VII - IX
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro The Dragon
Silent Hill
Mega Man Legends
Vagrant Story
Chrono Cross
Metal Gear Solid
Gran Turismo
Tekken
Wild ARMS
Twisted Metal
Medal Of Honor
Parappa The Rapper
Grandia
Persona 1 and 2: EP
Gex
Suikoden
Oddworld Abe's Odyssey
Now Stop fishing for (You)s

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>>378304036
don't bother to reply with the typical:
>game
shit
>game
shit
nobody cares what you think, if you honestly think the N64 was better than the ps1 you either were not alive during that gen or have terrible fucking taste. Yes there are great N64 games, but most of them could be beaten in a weekend .

>Mega Drive can play Master System Games
>PS2 can play PS1 games
>Wii can play GC games
>Wii U can play Wii games
>but people will put the one which can play MORE games lower

>>378295640
The top 3 are right at least

>swap ps3 and ps4
>move Nes up one
>move dreamcast and xbox up one
>move xbone down one

and you're good.

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Think about what games you would play today. None of them are PS2 or Wii games. Motion-controlled games are unprecise, and you should play PS2 games on either PC or GameCube, since they were the superior versions.

This is why SNES will forever be the undisputed king, because it was 2D perfection back then and it still is today.

Now, there is no such thing as 3D perfection, but GameCube probably did it the best. All those games still run and look amazing (especially on PC using Dolphin), while the other 3D consoles have aged poorly in comparison.

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>>378304974
>Think about what games you would play today. None of them are PS2

Nah fuck off, playing right now in fact. I use my PS2 more than my current and last gen console.

>>378305182
aren't the Silent Hill games also on PC?

I mean yes the PS2 isn't a useless machine if you own one, but if you don't, there's no reason to get one.

>>378304974
>there is no such thing as 3D perfection, but GameCube probably did it the best

Hahahaha. Nintendofags are pathetic.

>>378305351
But that always seems to be the argument, "if people disn't decide to buy the PS2 then they would't have bought a PS2". When i was young in the 2000's anon, if you had told me
>silent hill 3. Also on PC btw.
I would have said "cool. So i don't NEED to get a good PC." And in fact that is why you are seeing the sales for PS4 now like you are. Also on PC? Cool no need then, its also on this PS4.

I had both anon, i got a gamecube JUST for Resident evil and Resident evil Zero, and it opened me up to a world of first party nintendo. Glad i did, but i atill believe PS2 earned its place. I wish that Nintendo would just make a Gamecube 2 but lets face it, we have never actually shown nintendo that with our wallets.

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>>378305182
I have some bad news anon

>>378305763
Wow, people can play SH3 in 4k with the image all stretched out. That sure showed the anon something!

>>378305763
Cool so i don't need to play it there on PC at all because i have it on my PS2? Great news anon. You know where i can't play it though? Gamecube or xbox.

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>>378296797
N64 controller > GC controller desu

the ps3 and 2 are garbage. the only good sonys are the ps1 and the ps4 is shaping up to be respectable. microsoft, nintendo, and sega have always been better, but i will give it to nintendo for muh nostalgia and always high quality output of games even if third parties refuse to service them.

>>378302806
>PC

I agree that it would be an S if counted but ranking a platform that's lasted decades against those that usually last 5-6 years feels off.

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>>378295640
>PS4 that high

Gee, I wonder who came up with this ranking.

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>mfw I had a 3DO growing up

Dad why

>>378307165
>PS2 was shit
>but 4 will be quite good

HOW

>>378307243
>Are ya winning son?

>>378307165

>PS2 is garbage

HAHAHAHAHHA ANON. You nearly had me

>>378295640
>N64 > Famicom
I don't believe someone can be this retarded.

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>>378303397
>>378303984

Does the N64 have a proper version of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2? Didn't think so you fucking fag.

>>378307348
whats the best? low budget shitty anime games with red and yellow scores on metacritic? 4 is alright because its the 360 of this gen where its the best place to play a wide reach of games at better quality

>>378295975

>move SNES to its own SS tier

This

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>>378304710
>that survival """"horror""""" selection

Silent Hill is the only thing there that's remotely scary, you RE fags and your tank controls are real funny.

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>>378307243
>>378307410

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>>378307165
>the ps3 and 2 are garbage
>but the ps4 will be good :)))

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>>378307542
>whats the best.

PS2. It had everything. I own a PS2, PS3 and PS4 but the 4 still gets the least use out of them.

>>378295640
>psonly4games & psonly3games in A & B respectively

HA HA HA

>PS4 is an A console
>Xbone is a C

90% of their libraries are the same fucking games.

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>>378307713
Silent Hill had tank controls anon wtf. Also i actually think Fatal Frame/project zero series were the most spook.

>>378308018
10% makes up for it huh.

>>378308018

BONE has no waifus

>>378295640
>No Ouya

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>>378308126
It was good for that type of game same goes with 2 but I feel insulted when people try to tell me RE 1-3 were good games, RE games are action games tank controls have no fucking business being in that type of game, thank god 4 got it right.

The only legit rating:

>SS
Arcade
>S
NES, PS1
>A
SNES, PS2, DS
>B
Dreamcast, Wii, PSP, GBA
>C
PS3, 3DS
>D
N64, Wii U, X360, X1, PS4

I need to play more Sega games to be able to rate Master System, Genesis and Saturn.

>>378308323
4 HAS TANK CONTROLS TOO WHATS WRONG WITH YOU

>>378295640
All in all, I'd say this assessment is fairly agreeable. I personally wouldn't make too many changes. Good job.