Why are chalice dungeons so awful?

you're shit

They're the best part of the game, fuck you.

Kiss my ass.

>>378284101
>>378284764
>>378284973
samefag

>>378283662
>>378285056
Retard

>>378285056
holy shit I hope you die

because they were great on paper, shit in execution, and are literally cut content filler with no worthwhile rewards other than 2 cut content related items that literally don't do anything , or stronger blood gems that only really matter for PvP.

Which also means that if you want to actually get anywhere in pvp you need to grind chalice dungeons.

it's garbage having to go through the fixed chalices to get the roots on a new character but other than that they can be fun

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>>378283662
They're not.

The "story" ones sort of are, but CRFs are the pinnacle of Souls gameplay.

>>378283662
I like them

>>378286439
I'll kill you.

Meh there fine.

Good grinding spots plus some of the games best bosses are in them.

>>378286732
don't try it, boy
*unsheates katana*

the blood gems are bad too
barely detracts from the game though

>tons of spiders summoned everywhere
>reused assets
>short levels with boring design
>several bosses with too much health that feel like a chore

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I wouldn't care if they were shit but one of my favourite weapons is locked behind some of them and one of the better bosses is locked behind all of them.

>>378287261
Absolutely not. my good ones broke and I am stuck using shitty $15 headphones. I'm planning to Sennheiser HD 598 Cs when I can.

Also, chalice dungeons are fun.

>>378287286
Sounds excellent to me. Maybe those just arent for everyone

>>378287261
Only turbofaggots wear headphones.

>>378287286
>couldn't beat Ailing Loran

farming, boring, ar rook same, spiders, defiled fire pupper

>>378283662
just another bit of extra shit they slapped on for the fuck of it. Food analogy: It's basically like ordering a super good burger and when they bring you the burger they bring you some shitty fries just for the fuck of it. You have the thing you want, and now you get something else too I guess

>>378286976
Unseen Village is a better grinding spot

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>>378283662
Story ones are shite, FRC Depth 5 Roots are amazing. They're a great idea poorly implemented.

Finding bloodlickers in rooms you thought were empty always freaks me out.

>>378287976
Ok i beat bloodborne, got the plat, a few weeks ago and i have no fucking clue what KFC depth 5 dungeons are.

Why are they so good and how do i get to them?

>>378288447
fetid, rotted, and cursed offerings you do on root chalices to make them harder

>>378288447
>Why are they so good and how do i get to them?
if you've platinumed the game you should have the root chalices for lower loran, great isz, and pthumerian ihyll chalice. FRC is fetid rotted, and cursed, meaning you used the extra offerings of bastard of loran, sages hair, and inflicted organ.

They're the hardest chalices because they have some unique enemies, are depth 5, have extra enemies, enemies often are fetid (glowing red) so they do more damage, and you have 50% health. They give the best blood gems.

PROCEDURALLY

RANDOMLY

GENERATED

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>>378288705
Ok, so i have all chalices and a lot of these materials which aside from the little fetus i though were pointless. I just put the offerings in and that's it?

they're great it's just that you have to grind out the stupid pre set ones before you get the good stuff

>>378288890
yes, select all the optional offerings and you've got a fetid rotted cursed chalice. Bosses can appear as enemies, you get bullshit like the witches with the fast mad ones, tons of strong hunters, but if you like challenges you may enjoy it.

What are chalice dungeons?

>>378289007
Sweet child, sometimes it's better to not be curious.

Are the rewards of harder ones worth it?

I nether really borrowed with them

I fucking hate chalice dungeons. Got the trophy and never did any again.

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>>378285942
>he doesn't rice it up in chalices to get his lost chikage with 3 31.5% bloodtinge gems

nothing is more fun in the soulsborne series than full bt in bloodborne with best gems

>>378285056
kys

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>>378289108
ok

>>378289074
Yes.

>>378289074
That depends on whether or not you consider the Platinum trophy a reward, or if you optimize your characters. If the answer to either or both is "no," then you don't need to bother. It is pretty cool to see some of the stuff that didn't make it into the base game, like a cool little "Thanks for playing."

>>378288992
That sounds retarded and funas fuck.

>>378289074
if you plan on doing PVP, yes because there are some pretty ridiculous gems

>>378289007
nothing

Have fun playing through Bloodborne

pay no attention to the gravestones to the left

some cool unique enemies and bosses, but otherwise completely pointless if you don't care about farming gems for pvp.

Who is the best boss and why is it either Lady Maria (without parrying her) Orphan, Ludwig, Gehrman (without parry) or Lawrence

>>378289282
It's really not worth the trouble.

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>>378289347
Because based M knows how to pace a boss battle.

>>378283662
there are only 4 designs and two of them are ugly

when you start them late game you have to get through all the piss easy early dungeons

Chalice Dungeons aren't all bad though, some have exclusive bosses and you can get crazy good gems that help in higher NG+ cycles

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>Have great game
>Slap bad thing onto it that doesn't really matter just for something extra
>Average quality of the game goes down
>Gets worse reviews than if it had just not been there at all

>>378289579
The only reason it gets a pass is because it's optional.

Currently stuck on Amygdala in the defiled chalice. Shit's a fucking joke. OHKO bosses with that much health shouldn't be allowed.

I hate that it's necessary to grind them for the best blood gems, because grinding them is unfun garbage.
But otherwise I think they're kinda fun in a novel sort of way. I wish they had even more variation though.

>get far enough into the game that I can start doing Chalice Dungeons
>grind them to infinity
>feels like being trapped in purgatory doing these things all in a row for a week
>finally finish them all
>rise out of the ashes of the Chalice Dungeons as a literal god
>make main game my absolute bitch

Was it worth it?

no

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>>378289229
Fuck I feel retarded for never thinking to shaman bone the bell maidens
Thank you based anon

Bloodborne is perfect, but chalices are garbage. Redoing them on every new build so that I'm viable pisses me off and put me off playing the game.

>>378290193
it's essentially pro mode
have to memorize every tell and still need a bit of luck

>>378290605
You're viable enough in the main game without doing them. PvP doesn't matter in Bloodborne anyway

>>378290193
Jump cheese it.

I really liked them despite how repetitive they were because I felt like I was actually dungeon diving.

I feel like they missed an opportunity to make it a separate game mode. Just throw in more variety to the environments and make it like a kind of rougelite.

They just feel like wasted potential.
I wanted some cool labyrinthine, ancient city-like areas to explore, but instead of I got the same ~10 rooms copy and pasted over and over a bunch of times with a bunch of shitty bosses waiting for me at the end just for a bunch of +3.14151923758376% gems that are honestly pretty useless unless you're doing PvP stuff and a useless item to get my shitty platinum trophy.

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>Chalice dungeon Rom

YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE SPIDERS BECAUSE THE ROOM IS SO SMALL AND DODGING HIS MAGIC COMES DOWN TO FUCKING LUCK

>>378290193
first two phases just back away and bait out the arm slams, and do a running attack on the head, then back away again. takes a while, but its the safest option. third phase is the actual bullshit part. its all luck. i usually just stay under the legs to avoid the front arms, hit the back arms a couple times, then when it jumps, wait a beat, then roll behind where it was facing and hope for the best. only done it twice though, both times took me upwards of 10 attempts.

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>>378290576
if you can get to her in the first place

>find a door
>dont hear bell
>see red legs clipping through

>>378290960
>Chalice dungeon Rom
yeah thats where I gave up on chalice dungeons.

Rom is a shit fight as is, but at least his room is normally almost infinite, giving you lots of room to play with

but the chalice room is tiny as fuck and makes him and his spiders even more obnoxious

>>378290193
Just whack at the legs for 50 hours and you can beat him easy. It's fucking tedious, but it's pretty safe that way

Defiled Hotdog made me want to kill myself, though. I think I was stuck on that boss for a day or 2.

They weren't so bad at first then you realize it's the same level over and over.

>>378290193
When you get to the final phase just stay under her legs and attack her crotch. When she jumps don't move, she will never hit you that way. That is only true in the final phase though.

>>378291439
Defiled hotdog is like the most predictable chalice boss. His bites have a pattern that can be baited and the rest of his moves are pretty easy to avoid just by backpedaling or maybe a simple dodge for the charge.

Basically just backpedal and boop his snoot.

>Instead of being this mysterious ultra deadly species from the depths of space, Xenomorphs are now just the result of a stupid little science project of a robot with chaotic neutral motivations

>>378283662
wouldn't mind it so much if they didn't mostly look the damn same and if there wasn't a trophy locked behind the Pthumeru line.
>tfw no online, so cant just use a root chalice to skip most of that process

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>>378292209
>there are murals depicting Xenomorphs in Prometheus
>Predator 2(set in the same universe) shows a Xenomorph skull, now this doesnt make any sense since the Xenomorph were made a long time after this and are not a natural species that exist in space
How to fuck up a franchise and make it lose all mysticism; explain the backstory, but make time frame mistakes.

>>378283662
Why was the main game so good?

>>378283662
randomly generated

>>378290960
>tfw finally getting around to doing chalice dungeons on ng++
>get to rom in the chalice
>"So what if you make the room small? I'm fast as fuck and you do no damage to me. Your posse get dropped by a breeze, you ain't shit"
>he never even uses any other magic than roll over
>get to rom in main game
>spiders OHKing me
>rubbing themselves up on the other side of rom to attack me through it's body
>Rom constantly spamming that fucking meteor storm
Thank god the Chalice Dungeons don't scale with NG+, I can't imagine the salt I'd have getting trapped in that small room getting reamed by spiders.

>>378293658
was this game a statement on how inferior randomly generated games are to games that have actual effort put into level design?

It had a great idea behind it but it should've been something they worked on as a free expansion later rather than shipping with the main game or something. My main gripe with it is that it's completely optional to the point that the main game isn't balanced at all around it. Spending any length of time doing Chalice Dungeons made the main game too easy and vice versa. The concept should have been its own thing rather than something that was tacked on to Bloodborne. There's a ton of potential behind it but what we got was pretty tame.

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I wish I could get a good screenshot of this area. It was a neat surprise seeing something new when I thought I've seen everything after Platting and getting to NG+7

>>378294526
Could be some sort of boss rush that we could enter through the menu

>>378295660
have you seen the long legged witches?

>>378296941
Probably. But I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about

>>378297174
Cursed and defiled root chalices only. Most fun chalices.

>>378283662
They're repetitive and can be boring. Especially when some of the bosses are just regular enemies with altered stats.

But they have some unique bosses and tough areas. They can be fun but there's a lot of crap to dig through.

bloodborne sucks :p

>>378290193
get a weapon with range

threaded cane works, but it's the worst option out of what i will list

there's always beast cutter jump attack and running attack

get the burial blade and spam the charged r2 on its head. it's reach is insane and it's what got me through it

They're repetitive, especially the custom chalice dungeons that you can form, and you need to understand a lot of rules before you know you are making progress. I find that the offerings needed to make the custom chalice dungeons were very hard to find, and yes, I am aware that they become available for purchase once you clear the dungeon that needs the materials in the first place.

The reasons to do the chalice dungeons are to collect weapons, fight secret bosses, find unique items, find strong blood gems and after the new patch, to collect upgrade materials.

Its a bit overbearing, but its supplemental material and can lengthen the game to hundreds of hours. I assume it got a bad reputation back then because the long loading times of vanilla bloodborne were horrible. And these areas were more unforgiving.

Off topic but does anyone miss the pay to play 4chan yesterday? I couldn't post because I'm a poorfag but at least the ubishills and blacked posters were annihilated. They actually had to cough up money before they could start breaking global rules.

>>378298874
>Off topic but does anyone miss the pay to play 4chan yesterday?
>paying to post here

Anyway, lengthening the game by hundred of hours with farming in the same dull are is not something that should be part of the SoulsBorne games.

>>378287918
Which part? Is it better than the Mergo's Loft: Middle spot?

chalice dungeons would be great if it was one continuous dungeon like in the first diablo.

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>>378290193
>get Bowblade
>pump bloodtinge and skill
>stay out of range
>???
>profit

>>378303254
>Run out of ammo

Me everytime. How do I fix this, Anon?

>>378298874
>pay to play 4chan
What happened?

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>>378303469
Aim for his head every shot for viscerals and use blood bullets supplemented with vials

>>378303475
Captcha broke for a while. Couldn't even see if banned in the ban page because that needed to verify via captcha and it didn't work.
4chan pass users didn't need captcha so they had all the boards for themselves. Board quality improved, a lot. Was nice to see the shills stopped in their tracks.

>>378293143
David created didn't create the first Xenomorphs, he just learned how

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>>378284764
>They're the best part of the game

>>378288447
You need the CRF dungeons in order to get platinum, Queen Yharnam is in one of them

>people trying to say Chalice Dungeons weren't bad

Ayyy running through the same 4 rooms for 10 hours, boy what fun. Some of the bosses that are exclusive to Chalice Dungeon were fun, both otherwise Chalice Dungeons was a fucking slog from beginning to end.

>>378290960
Just take your time and kill every spider in sight.
When Rom summons meteor you run away or hide behind the pillars.

Isz Ebrietas is harder.

>>378308628
>tfw Whirligig + Beast Blood Pellets

Ebrietas didn't know what hit her. She's still fucking bullshit though, one of the most unfun bosses in the vanilla game. That charge attack is so fucking stupid.

>>378283662
Because it's a shit game. Dark Souls 3 is much better.

>>378283662
Because they completely miss the point of why the Souls series is good. They're quantity over quality, they're gameplay content for the sake of gameplay content, they lack the handcrafted well-paced charm of actual levels in favor of non-stop copypasted tedium.

I have a feeling that they were shoved in at the last minute because the dev or publisher was worried that Bloodborne wouldn't provide enough "value" for consumers with just its main story.

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>>378295660
have you ever seen Dungeon mole?

>>378309465
well thats not true at all

>>378310073
Maybe it's not exactly shit, but Dark Souls 3 is still much better.

>>378298874
>the site was 99.999999% dead but at least these people I don't like were gone

>>378283662
They're shit but worth going through. Just use a god damn youtube guide for the presets so you can boss rush them. If you're lucky, you'll never have to grind ritual mats.

>>378283662
Not canon

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>tfw you generate a dungeon with mad ones
>tfw first time a labyrinth sage runs after you
>tfw giant rolling baby
>tfw forever having pthumerian descedant as the final boss

Shit game, broke the disc after I couldnt beat the sudoku dude in the big cathedral thing

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>>378311217
he's optional, and harder than any boss in the base game (haven't got around to TOH yet)

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>>378310860
>tfw you get that first insane blood gem with only a minor drawback on it

>>378310331
spin2win

>>378311340
Not him, but I beat that guy first try. It was some top tier anime fight shit, but defiled amygdala was way harder.
>here, just fight this boss again while he has triple the health and you have half of yours

>>378311340
When he transforms his weapon into blood mode bait out his attacks and hit him.

When he changes the weapon back, that means he has his gun out. Always stay away from him and be ready to dodge his bullets at any time

>beat defiled amydala first try
>died 3 times against the witches of hemwick

am i retarded?

>>378311697
Yes, because the only guys I've seen die to the witches are genuinely retarded.

>>378311697
>2nd Playthrough with Rifle Spear and Saw Spear
>Don't have that hard a time with Ludwig
>Die more than once to Living Failures
Very Embarassing.

World design is one of the best things about Bloodborne, when you replace that with copypasted rooms and corridors, you're removing one of the best aspects of the game.

>>378291285
>that one Loran dungeon where they can track you to the spawn
>the other one that fucks you if you open the wrong door at the beginning

>>378313972
>that one Loran Dungeon with the Red Spiders
Oh fuck that one.

Every time you spawn in, they're coming for you