so does /v/ risk the 15%?

Fuck you

>15% chance vs. 24% chance

>>378277960
It's a 24% chance of killing nobody

but you're also accepting the chance that you'll kill multiple people

>>378278523
If it was XCom everyone would die.

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>>378278920

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>>378277670

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>>378277670
>>378279694
what do?

>>378280053
If the flip is past the image I won't be able to enjoy it.

>>378277670
>>378278523
expected number of deaths if you don't pull the lever = 1.25
expected number of deaths if you pull the lever = 0.85

You should pull the lever. Mathematically, this is objectively the correct answer.

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????

>>378280358
>secretly there's a muslim on board and he has a bomb vest

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>>378280493

>>378280358
>upscaling

>>378280304
So 80% of that guy is going to die?

>>378280237
its schrodingers loop de loop

you both see it and not see it untill it either happens or doesnt

>>378277670
The correct answer is to not pull the leaver, and say to the judge that you did not act as you believed that you didn't have the right nor the authority to decide who got to live and who died.

>t.lawyer

>>378280352
multi track drifting

>>378280352
Deep

>>378280621
>The correct answer is to pull the leaver, and say to the judge that you did act as you believed that you didn't have the right nor the authority to decide who got to live and who died, yet put the lives of multiple others over the risk of one

t. also a lawyer

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>>378280493
omfg

>>378280762
an easy choice. 3dpd? I don't think so.

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>>378280780

Am I the only person who genuinely finds all the variants on these funny

I feel like this is shitposting but I can't help but enjoy it

>>378280846
Pull it to the left just as its about to hit the people so the last thing they hear is "SOMEBODY" as they get ran over.

>>378280883
It's creative and thought provoking. Pretty wholesome shitposting.

>>378280883
It is one f the few normie memes that I enjoy, no matter which end of the normie/autist spectrum they are made under.

>>378280304
Mathematically you missed out on half your math

>>378280883
No, it's still a classic to me. I've never gotten tired of them.

>>378280946
What did I miss?

>>378280846
kill the lever
pull right, hope it plays the spongebob theme

>>378280883
I don't think it's shitposting, it has too much of a creative element. You may remember years ago when people on the internet had "fun" and made "jokes", this is one of those things.

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>>378277670
if this is korean mmo RNG then all four on the bottom will die

Am I the only one during Prey to think of this when those questions were asked? has anyone made Prey edits of these yet?

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>>378280883
I love the meme too

>>378281027
>four
>there are five

D E E P E S T L O R E

>>378277670
That depends on if the trolley will stop if it hits something that negates all damage. I'd take the chance with the guys on the bottom if that were the case, but otherwise, it's choosing between the chance to lose one asset, or five.

>>378277670
Well the chance of all 5 coming out unharmed is still higher than the 15%, so I'll go with that one and savescum.

>>378280983

ARE YA READY KIDS?

*splat*

>>378277670
What the fuck?

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>>378278330

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serious one here

>>378281064
This problem seems familiar.

>>378281164
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
splat

>>378278523
And a 40% chance of killing exactly one person.
64% of the time it is either better or the same. Ergo you let it hit the five guys.

>>378281139
Wouldn't it be easier to savescum the top track in that instance then

>>378280980
Beats me, you're going to have to actually show your math for me to tell you that

>>378281164
Wrong timing
>Are you ready kids?
>AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>I CANT HEAR YOU
>AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>378281318
>>378281346
k e k

>>378281331
Only if there's an annoying cutscene for each death. Then it's just faster to do the top.

>>378281001
Kek

>>378281326
And in those 36% lies the probability that all 5 die

This isn't a mathematical question, it's a question whether you want to ever take that chance

1-0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25*0.25

0.999023438

there is a 99.9% chance you will hit at least one on the bottom set of rails if we assume the carriage won't be stopped by hitting (and negating the damage of) one victim

on the top, there is an 85% chance

if you wanna kill at least one person, bottom is the better choice

>>378281281
I'll save my dick.

its morally wrong to make either decision unless you're a trained track technician, in which case your training should have prepared you for this

>Only 15% chance to nullify damage
He's unfit to live, might as well do him the favor of ending it now.

>>378281281
>our dick
Is this a metaphor?

>>378281518
>track technician

or a sandwich artist

>>378281332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution#Mean

For the lever pull scenario, n = 1 and p = 0.85, p being the probability of death.
For the no-pull scenario, n = 5 and p = 0.25.

>>378281438
Do nothing and you can simply insist you didn't have enough time to react.

Pull the lever in any scenario and people will know you did it willfully.

You can maybe escape responsibility if you do nothing. You cannot if you pull.

what if they were all black haha

Anyone have one with multi track drifting?

>>378281510
No that's the probability that all 5 of them don't die

>>378281281
Sorry but I let them die assuming I have no personal relationship with them

Even then it's a tough one

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>>378281657

>>378277960
>>378278523
>>378281326
85% of living
vs
25% of 1 living
6.25 of 2 living
1.56 of 3
0.3 of 4
0.075 of all living

t. mmo fag

>>378281698
lmao

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>it's a "moral dilemma" episode

>>378281674
ya

that's exactly what I said

if you want to kill at least one then bottom is your best option

>>378281657
Oh jeez, why the hell have I not seen one of these where someone on the tracks is a minority

>>378280846

>Pull the lever
>Corey on the house theme song plays
>Everybody survives by sheer force of will imparted upon them by such amazing piece of japanese culture

>>378281281
Stupid phoneposters

>>378277670
3 of the men will be guaranteed to survive, one is guaranteed to die and the other has a 75% chance to survive.

Otherwise, one man has an 85% chance to die. It's best to not flip the weather.

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8 out of 10 anons on this site would choose to let the top group die because they're so afraid of being called cucks

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>>378280780

>>378281791
No, what you said is that there is a 99% chance of not all 5 of them dying

this includes the probability that none of them die

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>>378281261

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Always bully neutralfags

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>>378281657
then I grab the lone person and throw him on the pile

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>>378281876
>3 of the men will be guaranteed to survive

>>378281064
>odd number of people
>pull level
>number triples and adds 1
>this makes the number even
>can now reduce the number in half by pulling
>this goes down until it's one
>it's odd again
>pulling again makes it 4 people
>it will go through this 4-2-1 loop as long as you keep pulling
The real trick to the question is do you keep pulling once someone's been runover and if they're removed from the count once they are. In that case, pulling the lever will generate an infinite amount of people if you keep doing it.

>>378281916

well it's what i meant mr nitpicker

>>378281897
Just constantly change the lever to make it seem like you might have chosen both if you had the chance to.

>>378281897
multi track drifting is the only answer

>>378281897
press the lever, wait for the next train, then hit it again

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>>378277670

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You must explore the root of the problem before developing a solution.

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poor trolley

>>378282108
How is this even a dilemma? Get that sweet hot-wheels actions going on this instant.

>>378281897
If the top are all american-born then I choose to save them and let the foreigners at the bottom die. Not racist or xenophobic but the least I could do is save my countrymen

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>>378281281
>our dick

>>378282108
What kind of fag wouldn't go for the loop de loop?
The extra few seconds before you die won't kill you.

>>378281647
Should be weighted with 5 deaths being "you fucked up for life"

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>>378282165
if the trolly is going backwards
>how did it run over the people without killing them?
>which track did it come from?

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>>378280358

>>378282108
Neither you have the trolley do the loop then MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY

>>378281897
If they're tied to the tracks nothing is stopping me from killing all of them, and pushing the cops onto the tracks as well

>>378281708
That's not how probability works

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>>378277670
The probability no one dies if you do not pull the lever is (3/4)^5. The probability up to X people die if you do not pull the lever is sum ((3/4)^(5-N)*(1/4)^N) from N =1 to X. I would roll the dice and not pull the lever, I'm pretty likely to not kill anyone. The expectation value of 1.25 deaths is misleading because there is the potential many more could die if the lever isn't pulled, however this can be interpreted as like it being, for many trials, something like 0 0 2 3 0 5 0 4 0 0 2 number of deaths or whatever. The maximum number of deaths if you pull the lever is 1, but is much more likely to happen.

>>378281064
Nice Collatz conjecture bro

>>378281897
They're all 3DPD, so let's see if multi-track drifting can't do them all in including the ones in the middle.

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>>378282452
>slowing field
>infinite velocity

>>378282452
If the train is moving at infinite velocity, I won't be able to pull the lever before is pass me.

>>378281787
>implying there's a dilemma

spooks aren't people

>>378282440
This one makes me smile.

>>378282003
Obviously not in a real life scenario, but looking at the numbers proves it.

75 x 5 = 375. 100 x 5 = 500, therefore We have 125 left over. What does this mean? Think of each 100 as a survivor (100% chance) and that last 75 being a guy with a 75% chance. The 125 is a guy who is so dead, that he dies 125%/ It's true.
>>378281281
I'd kill those people man

>>378282365
It was in stasis, neither coming from or going to nowhere

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>>378280762

>>378277670
Put them all on the same track, kill them all

>>378282452
half of infinity is still infinity tho

>>378282701
then how did it get out of stasis?

>>378280883
there is so much wrong with your post
>implying shitposting isnt funny
>implying oc isnt funny
>implying its wrong to enjoy any content on 4chan
>implying youre straight

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>>378277670
>>378280780
>>378280846
>being human
>not pushing the fat guy

>>378280762
Money will never buy me my waifu.

>>378282452
>Train travelling at infinite velocity fuses with all atoms in its path causing nuclear fusion to take place
>Everyone dies

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>>378282440

>>378282452
>Trolley is faster than light
>Trolley travels back in time
>Trolley is now going backwards

>>378281510
1/4*1/4*1/4*1/4*1/4 is the probabitly that all 5 of them will get killed.

And thats is 1/1024, a.k.a roughly 0.1%


>>378281708
The chance for the 5 dudes on the bottom track living is:
3/4*3/4*3/4*3/4*3/4 = 243/1024 = Roughly 24%

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>>378281657

>>378280883
It's wholesome, unpolitical, creative shitposting

It's something anyone can find funny and I'm glad for it.

:3

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>>378282942

>>378282818
so? it's still infinity

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>>378281812

>>378282942
It's unethical to kill someone on the chance they're a nigger. You can always check after the trolley's gone past then leave him tied up.

>>378283095
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=limit+as+n+tends+to+infinity+of+n%2F2%5En

>>378283113
Batman has a plan for this, there is nothing I need to do except maybe get to safety.

>>378283159
1 +/- ∞

>>378281281
I'll fap in their honor later.

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>>378283159
Five

>>378282825
Set it back to the position I found it in, shrug, and walk away. Can't make a decision like that with zero information.

>>378283113
Prep time nigga, literally can't beat batman if you give him time

No one will die in this situation

>>378283159
>>378283167

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/181304/whats-infinity-divided-by-infinity

These posters explain it better than I ever can

But basically, you're dumb

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>>378282942

>>378281897
haha browns arent people so i would kill them all

>>378282764
You considered the question which you have previously never thought of

>>378277670
This is a Binomial Distribution, since the chances are independent with each individual (always p=0.75), with n=5 and x=5 (everyone of those five survive), with p=0.75
So it would be: P(X=5) = 5Cn5*(0.75)^5*(1-0.75)^(5-5)=0.75^5= 0.2373>0.15
So the best chance is to allow that train to ram those 5 dudes.

>>378283312
Why are you quoting me you fucking retard?

I was providing the guy with an example to show that "infinity/infinity" is not always equal to infinity.

>>378283113

I pull it so it gets closer, just to see if I can spot the Batman.

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>>378283350

>>378283329
ehehehhehehhehe

>>378283113
>batman is riding the trolley

what I do is irrelevant because I'm sure he has a plan, now if batman was on the lever it might be interesting

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>>378283428
I let the goat decide.

>>378281897
ZA WARUDO! TOKI WO TOMARE!!!

*steps in front of trolley*

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

*trolley goes flying straight back at /pol/ poster, killing it instantly*

That is my answer.

>>378283113
Don't pull the leaver so I cat get another batman movie

>>378283329
You're statistically more likely to not kill anyone if you change tracks, so i wont :^)

>>378281064

So for ever two lever pulls, it's N*(3x+1)/2 where x is the number of level pulls and N is the starting number of people.

2 -> 1 ->3+1 = 4
3-> 10-> 5

The first lever pull is a 50% chance of halfing it versus ~tripling it. Any more pulls will guarantee you'll end up with more victims than the first even value you come across. I wouldn't pull at all.

>>378283350
>Immortal
>Every time it goes over him, the trolley will slow down.
>Eventually it'll stop and I'll be able to save him.
He probably wouldn't want to see five mortals die.

>>378282108
I'd like to see the loop obviously but there's always a chance for it to go wrong and then I won't get killed so it's a tough one.

>>378283329
ah the goat problem. easy. switch!

>>378283401
Calm down, kid

>>378283540
Nah he'd be really mad at you and dedicate himself to killing you

>>378280780
What is it about obese people that just makes you default to thinking the worst of them?

>>378280762
>omfg
Stop posting this faggot

>>378283392
you dumb

The probability that all 5 people on the second track survive is greater than the probability that the one person survives, but the expected number of deaths on the 5-person track is greater than the expected number of deaths on the 1-person track, so you should pull the lever.

>>378282825
If I have no way of knowing the outcome of my actions, why bother getting involved at all?

>>378280762
I have no physical waifu. easy choice

>>378282942
Kill him, better safe than sorry

>>378283665
I yell "the predictor is gay" and leave.

>>378283698
The immortal will suffer for an infinite amount of time after the Sun destroy the Earth, making his suffering start one billion of years earlier is fucking nothing.

>>378283685
I do not live under the delusional liberal umbrella philosophy that all people are inherently good for society and that all lives are beneficial for our collective future. Morbidly obese people exhibit a clear disregard for their own health, poor decision making, no self control, and are more than willing to drain resources away from more functional members of society because of their greed and gluttony.

Don't get me wrong, there are A LOT of people like that and not all of them are fat. It's coincidence that fat people cannot hide these character flaws so it makes them an easy target.

>>378283682
I'll just explain myself when he calms down.

>>378283698
I suppose so.

>>378283160
this. show some white empathy. its what we're known for

>>378283665
I switch the track. One man dies but since the predictor is always right then there are no people at the end.

>>378283962
Lower track. I pay for my sins by running in front of the trolley.

>>378283962
Save the larger number of people. I'm not a retard from /pol/ who cries about muh sjw boogeyman.

>>378283962
The answer is obvious. The bottom track is all normalfags, I won't feel a shred of guilt for running them over.

>>378277670
i dint get it

>>378283962
If the trap survives it will turn the experience into a sob story of how a heterosexual white man discriminated it and didn't kill it, becoming an icon in the process.
So I kill the trap.

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>>378283350
The death of the four mortals incurs some finite negative utility. But the negative utility incurred by the immortal grows without bounds as the tram hits him repeatedly.

>>378283939
He'll never calm down and he'll dedicate his immortal life to destroying yours. He'll even destroy the lives of those you love in his pursuit of vengeance. He can be bound and physically trapped for the rest of your natural life, but if you die by anything other than his hand, he will become an eternal serial killer that stalks humanity until it dies out. You will be responsible for the deaths of potentially millions.

>>378284186
One billion years for a immortal is like a femtosecond for a mortal.
He can take it.

>>378282682
The probability of three men surviving is (0.75)^3 * (0.25)^2 * 5C3 = 0.2637.

>>378280762
Easy, kill the 3D piggu and get enough money from the millionaires to make up for my lack of self-esteem/looks. Then I can have my 2D waifu and sex

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>>378284373
Now you're just making silly assumptions.

>>378283962
haha i kill the trap and then kill all the browns and kikes lol day of the rope ftw haha

>>378283962
can I get a clarification on disgusting's usage

disgusting as in ugly
or disgusting as in being a trap and or whore

this is important in my decision

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>>378277670
0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75 = 0.237 = 23.7% > 15%

/thread

>>378281281
Save dick, breed enough to compensate for the dead.

>>378283962
I'm gay so therefore SJWs would be conflicted to the point of silence

I kill the trap

>>378280762
>Remove 5 bourgeoisie and acquire waifu at the same time
I don't get why this is a choice

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>>378283962
>Kill trap
>SJWs rise against us
>High Lord Trump squashes them like the maggots they are
>Feels good

Single:
1= 1/4 * 3/4 ^ 4
2= 1/4 * 3/4 ^ 4
3= 1/4 * 3/4 ^ 4
4= 1/4 * 3/4 ^ 4
5= 1/4 * 3/4 ^ 4
Total= 7,91% * 5 = 39.55%

Double:
12= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
13= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
14= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
15= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
23= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
24= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
25= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
34= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
35= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
45= 1/4^2 * 3/4 ^ 3
Total= 2,635% * 10 = 26.35%

Triple:
123= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
124= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
125= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
134= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
135= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
145= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
234= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
235= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
245= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
345= 1/4^3 * 3/4 ^ 2
Total= 0.878 * 10 = 8.789%

Quad:
1234= 1/4^4 * 3/4
1235= 1/4^4 * 3/4
1245= 1/4^4 * 3/4
1345= 1/4^4 * 3/4
2345= 1/4^4 * 3/4
Total= 0.292% * 5 = 1.454%

Quint:
12345= 1/4^5
Total= 0.097%

None:
3/4 ^ 5 = 23.73%

Chance to kill no one choosing top: 15%
Chance to Kill 1 person choosing top: 85%

Chance to kill no one choosing bot: 23.73%
Chance to Kill 1 person choosing bot: 39.55
Chance to kill more than one person choosing bot: 36.72%


Id say Top is the better choice given the fact that you have almost 37% chance to kill two or more persons if you choose bot, even if the chance to kill no one is higher.

>>378283743
That's an opinion, that even if the chances are lower, if you want to risk the life of 5 people instead of 1, but that wasn't what I wrote. I showed the probability of that happen.
Now go call your mother the first 2 words you wrote, her reaction will be interesting.

I wish pol retards would stop intersecting their cancer into our fun thread. Fuck off and die.

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>>378283821

>>378285046
>i don't know what the expected value is

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>>378277670

>>378281064
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3x_%2B_1_problem

However it's currently unknown how many times you'd have to pull the lever such that you only kill one person.

>>378284337
>implying the immortal's suffering wouldn't asymptotically approach some constant value as he gradually gets used to it

>>378284505
You're silly not to make these assumptions. Immortals are petty creatures capable of theoretically infinite cruelty. Even the slightest chance of angering a homicidal immortal is not worth taking if the alternative is a finite sacrifice of finite people.

>>378280762
Just cause she's my 3d waifu doesn't mean she'll love me back. At best, after saving her, she'd give me a pity fuck.
Generous money fags don't need to love me or even like me to give me money for saving their lives.

>>378285271
Now where are you getting this information?

Can I choose to kill poltards by pulling the lever? Because I would gladly pull the lever if pol was on the tracks. The more the merrier. Would do it with a smile on my face.

>>378283421
I chuckled.

>>378285478
Well aren't you just more normal and socially adjusted than they are

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>>378285112
woops, wrong one

>>378282080
this must be why your family is between them, clever bastard

spooks

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>>378283140
Cross dimensions, weave fate together. Intertwine both dimensions.
Pick both options!

>>378283095
right but by creating a supertask you have effectively stopped the trolly

if the trolly always travels half the distance it will never reach the first person no matter how fast it is moving its like Achilles race or a Zeno paradox

all people on track B are safe

>>378285526
Any one from that board is subhuman.

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>>378284309
this guy gets the postmodernists

>>378285773
>he says this while posting on /v/

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>>378285804
wrong picture, still works tho

>>378285773
kill all subhumans. gotchya. think they say that a lot too

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well?

>>378280352
>Implying Socrates thought one's words were the expression of their beliefs or that the truth was truly attainable

>>378283140
Wait for the right moment, and...

MULTI TRACK DRIFTING

>>378283665
How is the predictor gathering information for his prediction?
Is this 100% deterministic or is there a point at which he doesn't have perfect information?
Because if his predictions are 100% infallible, it's necessarily better not to pull the lever.

>>378280846
SOMEBODY

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>>378285941

>>378285941
SAVE HITLER

>>378285941
Pull the Lever.

>>378277670
On track 1, you're taking an expected 85% damage
On track 2, you're taking an expected 125% damage

Run over the single guy, do nothing, or completely ignore this shit are the only acceptable answers.

>>378285941
People who don't use turn signals deserve to die above all others

>>378285897
If he actually thought he was the bigger man he wouldn't be here in the first place.

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>>378285941

>>378281897
Definitely leave it. Let the mudslimes and race traitor die.

The nigger and his whores will die of aids anyway.

>>378282080
Fucking truth

Hilariously enough, if the trolley car is tall enough maybe it won't skin your family and they can look on in horror

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um?

>>378286146
All you know is that he's never been wrong before, not that he's guaranteed to be right in this case. Maybe he just flips a coin and has gotten really lucky, maybe he conducts really detailed background checks on the people who will be pulling the lever, or maybe he's psychic.

>>378286392
You suck at math.

>>378285941
Clearly the Cannibalistic Serial Killing Cancer Researcher is too important to let die.

>>378285403
Don't you see the pink heart emanating off of her?

She loves you, senpai.

>>378281897
Can I multi track drift and have the cool people live? If not? I pull the lever, run across, pull another lever offscreen and have it loop back around.

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>>378286924

>>378286924
B

>>378283140
>Killing a whore who sacrificed her body to keep rapists occupied.
I kill NTR.

>>378282440
Never fails to cheer me up.

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>>378280846
>you cannot kill yourself

>>378286773
>orphans live in both routes
what is the point of including that then

>>378282452
>Xeno's Trolley.png

>>378286924
Bubbie without hesitation

>>378286773
This is a meme because it's full of philosophy crap but the answer doesn't matter because of the Cartesian demon

>>378286991
Then I'll switch since I would naturally go for the rational minimum loss/maximum gain option of not pulling in any normal circumstance, and since this fellow is most probably not omniscient.
And if he goes to the point where he predicts that change of heart with whatever method he's using, then it stands to reason that he could predict any wavering which follows from that point on, and it would mean that this is actually a deterministic problem, which would mean my choice doesn't actually matter in the first place.

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>>378287468
yea

>>378281897
Kil lthe nigger. That woman is a Saint, she could be an eroge protagonist for fucks sake.

>>378287468
Even without that everything else is the same.

>>378280762
Wait, is that my 2D waifu brought into the 3D world, or a 3D woman who just happens to be a perfect match for me?
This is important.

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>>378287806

>>378282791
lol'd

>>378287663
The Trolley has no momentum going into the portal, as such the man in A is not in any danger.
Meanwhile, a Trolley being flung at high speeds would be dangerous, even if not to the people tied up.
Obviously I choose B, because a Trolley flying through the air sounds hilarious.

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there is a box
you can open it
or you can have 32 dollars

>>378287886
I don't pull the lever because I'm shy, but I end up regretting doing so later because I might have waved at someone nice while the trolley passed by.

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>>378287970
I choose the box.

>>378277670
If we're operating on vidya logic, everyone of those 75% chancers is going to die if we direct it to them. Getting the 15% chancer cuts our losses.

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>>378287970

>>378287970
I don't need 32 dollars.
What's in the fucking box?

>>378287970
Bah, I make $32 in 3 hours.
Give me the box!

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>>378288042
>>378288135
>>378288136
>>378288132
YOU DID THIS

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>>378288337
Even better than expected. The box is always the answer.

>>378288337
>My own army of blood thirsty question marks.
Noice.

Mere mortals were not meant to be able to create their own trolley problem moral quandries.

>>378280761
What if that one person is Hitler?

>>378281897
Kill the top
At worst the bottom slut will pump out on kid every 9 months
Top can give me several blacks a year

A roach colony in 20 year vs 3 full colonies in 5 years

>>378288664
Neat.

>>378288701
top won't have black kids because they would lose their providers

>>378288664
this pleases my autism

>>378280762
>Allow the train to run over the millionaires
>Loot their corpses for money and fuck your waifu

>>378286484
who cares? If I'm in the right turn lane, clearly i'm about to turn fucking right and don't need to signify to the cars behind me who are also turning right. If theres like no car behind or in front of me for a good while, why bother signaling if changing lanes?

>>378289047
The gov will provide

>>378287663
multi-track shitposting

>>378289194
It's good to make a habit of using your turn signals so you do it by instinct when needed.

>>378289194
Dumb nigger

>>378289201
The levers are close enough to pull them all in quick succession.

>>378289201
Of course. I watched Mythbusters.

>>378289194
>having to make a conscious decision about turn signals
Wow you're kind of a fucking moron

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>>378289194
bastard

>>378283920
Anon. I weigh 300 lbs. My decisions usually either benefit others, or at the very least have no impact on them. I'm mathematically gifted to the point where I'm able to improve the way things are done in an engineering environment, and have done so on multiple occasions in my job. This makes equipment run more efficiently and safely. I have no interest in reproducing, so while my intelligence may not be passed on, neither will my bad genes.

How am I a detriment to society, or use up resources that I do not replace in abundance?

I do believe in survival of the fittest though, and think anyone in my situation that can't find a way to be productive to society should be left to shrivel and die.

>>378289387
Just reach through and pull it without putting your head through the machine.

>>378280352
>touche, socrates, touche,
>*pulls the lever*

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>>378289387

Depends on the manner of the teleportation.

Star Trek teleporter? It's not you (you're dead).

But some sort of portal/wormhole that simply bridges the space between the two? It's reasonable to assume the person that comes out the other side is you.

>>378289201
It doesn't matter either way, and i won't do it out of superstition

>>378280762
Joke's on your, my waifu is rich as fuck.

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>>378289573
Jokes on you I'm actually Rayman.

>>378281001
Fucking loss, I swear

>>378289617
It's the same atom configuration, just not the same atoms how are you dead?
By that logic you will be dead in ~3 years when most of the matter that make up your brain will be different from the ones you have now and ~3 years ago you were dead.

>>378280762
Next season is going to start soon, there will be other waifus.

>>378280762
Money can't buy me love, and I can't take it with me.

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>>378289671

>>378289785
Not that anon, but won't it happen too quickly?

>>378281897
This problem loses all impact if you are not white. Kill the Muslims I don't care about the woman

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You are god. You can either create man, and inadvertantly create trolley problems and have to deal with their bullshit but you get to watch. or you can max out all chill in heaven and eventually get bored with nothing to do.

>>378289785
>It's the same atom configuration, just not the same atoms how are you dead?

Because it breaks down that atom configuration, completely destroying it in that instant. Biological processes do not occur at the same speed, or in the same manner.

Let's put it this way - say someone uses the teleporter, but when it energizes, it only does half the job. It rips you the fuck apart but there's a problem with your pattern and you never materialize at the other end.

It would be accurate to say that, for all intents and purposes, you are dead. So how can you justify the claim that, when it works normally, the teleporter doesn't kill you?

The answer is that it does kill you. You were fucking atomized and your pattern was stored as data. What stepped out the other end was an absolutely flawless, perfect copy. But it's still a copy. It's not you. And everyone else who has used one is also a copy. And since people tend to use the teleporters frequently, they're actually copies of copies of copies.

>>378289975
im not completely white and i would choose the top. the bottom girl while a whore is single, but theres multiple cheating whores on the top. we need less dishonest scum in the world

>>378289785
>It's the same atom configuration

Someone who dies of a stroke or heart attack also has the same atom configuration that they did 2 seconds ago. But that doesn't mean they're not dead.

>>378290156
I create a lesser, false God and throw him into nothingness for shits and giggles.

>>378290156
I create a lesser God and give him the same choices.

>>378282942
If he's pure-blooded, then he's probably a decent person who's just visiting from Africa.

You have to grow up in urban America to go bad.

>>378290197
"It" answers by my name, has all my memories and traits, and acts exactly like me. Hmm almost as if "it" WAS me.

>>378290309
>>378290420
Gnosticismmind

>>378290528
>You have to grow up in urban America to go bad.

Yeah, because Africa is such a great place to live.

>>378282942
Jesus christ the clarification is killing me for some reason
I want my sides back

>>378290591
Yeah, but only the rich Africans with better living standards get to leave.

>>378290568

But it's not. Like I said, the copy is perfect. Flawless and indistinguishable from you.

But you're dead. You died the instant that faggot Frenchman said energize and you got disintegrated, the same as if you got hit with a Klingon disruptor. But the machine did it's job, and took all those molecules in the pattern buffer and reconstituted them at the other end into something that is an exact replica of the person who was killed only a moment before.

Stepping into a teleporter is suicide, plain and simple. And Chief O'Brien was running the show.

>>378290568
But YOU die. Someone else then takes your place, but You, as yourself, with your soul, dies.

If heaven exists there's probably like a million Picards all hanging out. All of them were Picard, but they had their own souls.

>>378277670
>roll a 4 sided die 5 times
>if you roll a 4, someone dies

You can simulate this, people.

>>378291284
Also rolling a 6 sided die for the 1 guy is close enough I suppose

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>>378289194
people like you are why we can't have nice things.

>>378291672

Of course I don't pull it. If the people on the trolley can't be bothered to do even the slightest bit of investigating, then they deserve all the "trauma" they get.

>>378291672
Fuck with them, kill the dummy.

>>378291672
What's stopping someone from explaining this shit away after the dummy gets run over? It's fucking tomatoes anon. I don't believe that anyone will actually be traumatized by this.

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>>378288443
right answer

>mfw all these stemcucks can't into deontological ethics

>>378283259
>>378283770
obviously the train is currently going to the violent criminals.

if it wasnt then the man would have no reason to yell kill me

>>378291672
Run over the dummy, stab the hobo to death while they're not looking.

>>378291964
But which way is the trolley going at first?!

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the trolley problem is over forever

>>378288042
I always lose at this one, I don't even know why

>>378289194
>there are incredibly specific instances where arguably i am justified in not using a turn signal
>therefore i will blatantly, horrifically, loudly argue against anyone who dislikes when people don't use turn signals
Fucking retard. This is literally why there are car accidents - people think that the rules don't apply to them because "other people ignore them" or "hey it's not ALWAYS bad".

>>378289785
>you will be dead in ~3 years
You are an infinity of continuous lives. An amalgam of all of your infinite experiences. "You" do not exist at this exact moment in time, but many "yous" do. The "you" who was hungry, the "you" who still IS hungry, the "you" who is embarassed about his high school prom.

What makes these "yous" all You are the fact that they are all linked by continuity. This is not the same grouping of atoms as it was 3 years ago. But that grouping of atoms morphed continuously into THIS grouping of atoms. And therefore it was me, and I am it.

If I teleport, it is not a continuation. There is a sudden breach. I am not what comes out the other end.

People like you, who misunderstand the fundamental argument behind teleportation morality, are going to cause millions of suicides.

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>>378293146
What if the teleport just makes me move super fast to the target location instead of "teleporting" me? Checkmate atheists.

>>378293146
can I choose who commits suicide? what if I only choose to make murderers commit suicide. Am I still morally bad?

>>378293543

I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that teleportation is supposed to imply that you skip the intervening space between point A and point B.

What you're talking about sounds more like a highly advanced catapult.

>>378293649
but if I phase through objects too then what makes it different from the regular function of a teleport? do we have to give it a different name when going instantly is the deal anyway?

>>378278523
>but you're also accepting the chance that you'll kill multiple people
Or I don't claim responsibility by touching the lever.

>>378293803
>do we have to give it a different name when going instantly is the deal anyway

I dunno. What's the difference between the portals in Portal and any other sort of instantaneous travel?

I think the human mind better wraps its head around physics breaking technology when we append certain labels to it.

>>378293146
As long as you die right at the moment another perfect you is created continuity is maintained.

>>378294062

Sounds impossible, even for a computer. It would have to ensure there is absolutely no passage of time, whatsoever, between you being destroyed and your 'copy' appearing at the destination point.

>>378294062
Only if that perfect you is created in a continually logical location using continually logical pieces of matter.

Continuity isn't just about time. It's about space. It's about individual objects and their formations. We aren't perfectly continuous and it is a fact of life that we, as people, die and are reborn many times. But a teleportation can only truly be "continuous" if it is the wormhole type, your matter staying in formation and being transported safely by passing through all interconnected space and time.