ITT: Games where this happens

>>378274774
shouldn't the axis be the other way around

>>378274774
Monster Hunter

Independent variable goes on the x-axis

>>378274983
That's not right because fun isn't at 0

>>378274774
that graph is fucked

>>378274774
New Vegas

>>378274774
TES

Dragons Dogma

Witcher 1

>>378274774
street fighter

>>378274774
Prey

>>378274898
>>378275007
>>378275054
No, it's right; the amount of time you spend playing the game is dependent on how much fun it is. To the left of the minimum you've got the "it's so bad it's good" and to the right, you've got "it's more fun so I spend more time playing it."

>>378274774
Timesplitters? Might want to look at your function more carefully

>>378274774
american "education"

>>378274774
"""""""""""""""""""fun"""""""""""""""""""""" is a buzzword

Dragon Warrior Monsters

>>378274898
>>378275007
>>378275054
>>378275171
hola reddit

Dragon Quest VI

Mount and Blade: Warband

>>378274983
Pretty much, at first you start hyped, then you realize the boring ass gathering quests that you have to do finally after you completed those you have only good quests.

>>378275205
>doing something retarded and expecting not to be called out on it
>calling anyone else reddit

>>378274774
nfs underground / most wanted

Every single modern Nintendo game.

>start game
>full hour of tutorials
>most of it "you can press A to jump! :))))))))))" type of shit
>can't skip it
>can't mash through it
>can't just wait it out, because it require input
>usually can't even save during it, then come back later
>after ages of this, the game actually starts
>it's ok

>>378275150
It's a fucked up distribution then.

>>378275205
sup reddit! still trying to fit in?

>>378275150
according to the graph, as fun increases time goes down sharply then has a steady but non linear increase, fix your shit

>>378275150
You're missing the point. Fun does not determine the time - time determines the fun. So, it should be graphed with time as X.

>>378274774
So, if I'm reading this right, you're asking for a game doesn't exist for two hours, then instantaneously is fun, but simultaneously gets worse and better over the next few hours, and then gets very fun the more you play it?

Any jrpg, ESPECIALLY smt

Ocarina of Time

>>378274774
looks like most games are like this, it's when you grasp the objective and mechanics the reward circuit in your brain makes playing the game fun

>>378275150
You can't subtract time you spent on the game like the graph is implying

>>378274774
Nier: automata

ITT:

People who can't read graphs

Kingdom hearts when you reach tarzan or Alice in wonderland

>>378275414
Nier Automata's the opposite though. Each successive route gets less and less fun.

>>378275490
And people who can't make graphs

>>378275150
You can't do that with a single game dipshit

>>378275338
You're looking at time wrong. You're thinking of it as time in the sense of "To -> Tx," not "time spent playing." More time is spent playing the game the more fun that it is, with a few exceptions of games that are played even though they're the antithesis of fun (e.g., Dwarf Fort).

>>378274774
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC

Starts out really, REALLY fucking slow and boring under the guise of "comfy", and then gets fucking CUH-RAYZAY about 1/3rd of the way in.

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Final Fantasy 12
The game gives you alot of freedom to try and go outside the "basic" combat setup by farming link chains, setting up efficient gambits, unique party set ups. But then gates it all behind a multi-layered system of needing the license (which requires LP from combat), needing either the gear or the skill or spell (which needs to be bought at prices that may not be attainable until certain points), or flat out not having them available until the devs say so. So the player ends up knowing the freedom they will eventually have, hours before it shows itself proper. There are various ways to game the system: get a later game item early by chaining kills of the same genus, doing side quests (that have surprisingly little documentation in the menu when almost every other game aspect is laid out in the open, very meticulously), min/maxing your license board layouts.

The game lets you roam almost entirely free as you will as well. Then you run into the problem of "bridges in DQ" by having the enemies be a noticeably tiered up level and stats to follow. You can likewise skirt this limitation with clever team setups or item use or chocobos.

The game shows all of it to you very early, but you are still gated beyond belief in getting to where your imagination envisioned hours prior. But when you do, damn it becomes awesome. Around level 24 I started fighting Marks that were level 30-ish. I was setting up clever gambits to make combat speedy. I was traveling the world basking in the amazing lore and really feeling like I was a part of it.

It made looking at my license board, planning my next few unlocks I had set my mind on, then going out and grinding (it really stops being grinding; you end up doing something productive every time you set out) actual factual fun.

You gotta like that type of autismal planning and execution though. I personally would put almost any roguelike on the list for OP's image too.

>>378274898
No, the less fun you have the slower time goes. Never heard about time flying?

>>378274774
>ITT: Games where this happens
You mean a game being simultaneously 2 different levels of "fun" from the start of the third until of time to the tenth unit of time, and non playable during the first 2 units of time?
That's an easy question.

>>378275414
>>378275519
No, Nier Automata is at zero fun for the full duration of its multiple playthroughs.

>>378275324
>After ages of this, the game asks if you understand everything? would you like to hear it again?

>yes
>no

>>378274774
Persona 3

>>378275624
Then you can't assign that to a single game

fighting games

>>378274774
any game with timetravel

>>378274774
I'm not that good at math. What does this graph mean?

>>378275250
Fuck that, fuck Monster Hunter.

Anyway, Earthbound.

>>378275604
Look anon, it's not my fault OP fucked up his graph, I'm just trying to find a use for it that makes at least a little sense.

>>378274774

Tenchu 3 definitely.

It's fun and cool being a ninja at first, then the difficulty hits and you lose 45mins of progress to falling down a bottomless pit or getting seen ands stuck with the crappy combat.

And then you finally git gud and you're an unstoppable, unseen killing machine- taking nothing but your grappling hook into missions and getting Grandmaster Rank the first time.

Then you beat the second campaign with ease, then unlock the secret third campaign.

Then you play through the first two AGAIN on the silly dubbed over joke story because you're so good you can breeze through it and it's actually pretty funny (Rikkimaru is on a quest to retrieve toilet paper or something ridiculous like that).

Fucking incredible game, did not surprise me when I looked later and saw it's from the guys who went on to do Dark Souls.

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>>378274774
Morrowind
God Hand
The spyro ps1 games
Golden Sun1&2
System Shock 2
Dragon's Dogma
Killer is Dead
Bayonetta 1/2
Castlevania: aria of sorrow
Vagrant Story
Any Monster Hunter Game
Metroid Prime 1&3 specifically
Disgaea 1 and 4

>Games where the exact fucking opposite happens:
Breath of the Wild
Smash 4
Mario Kart
Halo 4 and 5
Dead Space 3
Super Mario Sunshine
Warframe
Overwatch
Dark Souls as a series

>>378274774
The more fun im having the more time i get?

>>378275865
>Andrew Ryan
>evil

>>378274774
Probably MonHun, though I've never gotten past the trough phase after 11 years of trying and I am convinced all the autists raving over it have developed some form of Stockholm syndrome.

>>378274774
>Dragon's Dogma

>>378275920
Skyrim, with different mods. The decrease is from installing mods to the point where the game breaks, then you find the one that was really fucking everything over, and install more mods that make the game more fun.

>>378275865
Snake isn't more good than Johnson
Johnson did literally nothing wrong

>>378276069
First thing that came across my mind.

>>378275865
I like how luigi is slightly more evil than mario here

>>378275890
>Implying

If anything it's

>Would you like to hear it again?

>No
>Yes <

>>378274774
My teenage years

>>378275324
>3 hours of tutorials of sun and moon
>all that unskipable shit in the ruby/saphire remakes
>pirated sticker star and dream team for shits and giggles and was bored to death

I just don't get it. Why did it turn out that way? All the third party shit on the 3ds is amazing simply because that shit is so few and far between.

>>378274774

kerbal space program

the game starts getting fun after duna missions become routine

>>378274774
a game in wich you have so much fun you travel back in time and come back?

>>378276051
Pretty accurate

>>378274774
fallout 1
its fun once you get some levels and get to the hub

>>378275324
>Every single modern Nintendo game.

Funny, I don't remember anything like that in BotW.

Meanwhile Persona 5 wouldn't take it's hands off the steering wheel for the first 3+ hours.

>It's okay when Sony does it

>>378274774
That's not a function anon

>>378276323
>trying to start a console war because someone called out your favorite corporation

Nintendo fanboys really are the worst

>>378275472
Game start should be at time = 0...

>>378276339
At least persona 5 gives you some fucking semblance of a story, and interesting characters instead of making you go god fucking knows where to piece together a vague as fuck story, using amnesia as a plot device and a cast chock full of forgettable characters.

I really wanted to like breath of the wild. But between all the fetch quests, repetitive shrines, and forgettable music I just couldn't.

>>378276609
not if there's timetravel involved

>>378276573
Meant for

>>378276339

Merican education everyone

>>378274774
FFXIII

>>378274774
board game online

>>378274774
Europa Universalis 4 or any game with a considerable learning curve, like dwarf fortress

>>378274774
Romancing SaGa

>>378276573
>Shit on Nintendo
>Get pointed out how you're blatantly wrong and that Sony's current major release does exactly what you're complaining about
>Muh C-Console Wars! Only insulting the company I don't like is okay!

Get some new material brainlet

>>378274774
fighting games

I know someone's got this in KI:U format, somewhere.

>>378274774
Dying Light pretty much follows this model exactly

>>378277153
My absolute melanin man. I'm thiiiiiiiiis close to getting to the fun part. I already have my failed playthrough of 10 hours of getting the hang of the mechanics under my belt. On this playthrough, that I plan to beat dammit, I've finally got a 5 man party of named people set up (Guella Ha best boy), got some skills set up enough to wander as I please, somehow got my hands on a piece or two of the fatestones, and... I don't know. I can't remember what I was doing in the game but I think about picking that playfile back up again any day. I think was about to go climb a mountain.

The game is maddeningly beautiful in its complexity. Once you get it, any part of it, the natural way any mechanic unfolds just works. It finally all clicked and it was amazing. Conceptually, its my favorite game. I love the sd look of the characters and world when most don't. I love the omnipresent goofy dub, and the music is amazing most of the time. The freedom, the worldbuilding, the damn ecology system. The skill and vocation set up is brilliant and makes you really feel restricted in the job, but free to pursue it how you want. You wanna be the greatest pirate ever? you can do that. You want to be the shittiest knight ever? you can do that too. The general mechanic set up, the engine that runs the vehicle that is the game, is very very much like final fantasy 12. I'd even say that ff12, in its grand scope, budget, and popularity, ended up being only a shadow of what Romancing SaGa achieved quietly and more beautifully.

>>378274774
Victoria II

i'm havin a real hard time comprehendin this graph

>>378274774
E.Y.E.

especially when you get maxed out cyber legs

>>378274774
>Time on the Y axis
>time a non-linear variable

Murricans.

>>378275472
What game is this?