So, we all agree that necro is the best character, right?

No disagreement from me. I love pet classes.

>>378262036

look bruh I've been trying to stave off my addiction to this shit for about 2 years, D2 is dead and people like me need it to be dead so stop talking about it

it's done, it's over, D2 never existed

>>378262036
Close, but it's actually the Druid.

Well..now i have to reinstall D2.

>>378262036
Until you actually have to fight a boss

>>378262036
>game plays itself class
>best

>>378262415
The druid is so disappointing. Every skill he has is shit outside of oak sage, hurricane and tornado. If you are doing anything else you might as well just pick another character. The fire tree is a joke, the summons are worse in numbers and ability in comparison to the necromancer, werewolf form is a zealot but worse and the werebear form is a sorceress but worse (dual dreams is far better than fire claw).

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>>378262427
>not having D2 always installed along with WC3

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Druid>Barb>Paladin>Amazon>Assassin>Sorc>Edgelord

The real question is what's the most fun class in Median XL?

>>378262185
https://youtu.be/CdqoNKCCt7A?t=53

>>378262159
What are some more games with good pet classes?

>>378263931
So much this

>>378262185
*rune dropping sound*


*potion sounds*


*monsters dying*


*dueling intensifies*

*leveling sound*

>>378262504
Diablo is hard with a summoner necro but i got Baal in one go without teleports, decrepify + mage skellies slowed him down to the point of not moving at all, the rest of the guys finished him

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>pure skel necro
>maggot's nest with its thigh corridors
>enter duriel's tomb
>the first thing he does is blast all my skels into oblivion
>no corpses
>diablo everything

>>378264507
tight* corridors

fuck auto corrector

>>378264053
most of the Divinity games

Divine Divinity lets you raise the corpses of fallen boss monsters to follow you. One of them is even a summoner himself so you end up summoning 100+ different Orcs in longer fights.

Divinity OS doesn't let you summon that many creatures, but they're all really fucking strong

Pre-1.13 paladin will always be the best character.

>deals 100% damage to just about everything except for wailing beasts which only appeared in the Kurast temples
>amazing damage
>blessed hammer didn't just ignore immunities, it set the magic resistance to 0 for all demons and undead which make up the far majority of enemies
>third best casting rate, behind the barbarian and sorceress
>2 frame block with easily obtained 75% blocking rate
>could also wreck the ubers with smite since it always hits no matter what, something no other attack in the game can do

>>378264708
I've never played with paladin. What changed after 1.13?

>>378265461

Blessed hammer doesn't break resistances anymore. So if an enemy has 50% magic resistance, you will be dealing 50% damage. If an enemy has 100% magic resistance, you deal no damage. Before you were almost always dealing 100% damage.

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Lightning Sorc after after patch 1.10 hit

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Computer,

create a program with 25 unique artists reminiscing about an ancient program named diablo 2


disengage safety protocols

>>378265886

I still don't get what the fuck they were thinking before 1.10. Lightning and chain lightning were so awful. Why the fuck did they think it was a good idea to make a spell require attack speed on a spell caster? Not only that, but the speed was still shit even if you did stack attack speed and stacking attack speed means you are missing out on usual caster properties since attack speed is on physical damage equipment.

So i installed this the other day to finally give it a shot.
I think i should play diablo 1 first but ive heard it doesnt run well on windows 10...

I was thinking of using the palading and going full DEUS VULT, is he a shit character?

>>378265732
Except I believe the only magic immune monsters in the game are in a random irrelevant act 3 zone.

>>378266459
He's effective but most of his skills are boring. Mostly autoattacks and buffs.

I'd recommend downloading Median XL for Paladin, he gets a bunch of nice skills that are listed here:
http://modsbylaz.vn.cz/paladin.html

>>378267508
That monster was immune to even the pre-1.13 paladins. Nothing could break their immunity, because they were a beast-type monster. Blessed hammer only breaks undead and demon immunities. Quite a few monsters have a moderate amount of magic resistance anyways, so pre-nerf is quite a bit better than it is now.

>>378266459

Paladin is a good one to play with friends, since his buffs are so powerful. If you want, he can even do things like solo uber tristram, but you need really good gear for that and up to and including that point he's going to have very poor farming speed.

>>378267918
>>378267703
I should add that i'll probably play the game solo tho.

>>378263940
Necro. Melee necro is fun as fuck.

>>378265994
i just watched this episode last night

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>>378262036
Necro is ALWAYS best character

>>378267703
>recommending that someone play Median XL on their first playthrough
Don't be dumb. MXL is harder, requires an understanding of the base game to play properly and is strongly about reading documentation. I wouldn't even suggest playing it ever and I've played hundreds of mods.

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>fall for the necromancer meme
>put most of points into skellies
>get raped by the giant worm boss in act 2 but defeat him
>manage crawl my way through hell to diablo
>skellies are fucking useless and get one shotted, so have to spam low level bone spear or whatever for an hour till hes dead while constantly tping back to town for potions

there really should be a respec potion

>>378262036
I'm done discussing this fucking game. These threads are always full of casuals who poured a grand total of 10 hours into the original and consider themselves expert enough to bitch about Diablo 3.

>b-but muh rune words

Nigga, barely anyone on the game had a completed runeword of relevance.

>>378268130
the one with sherlock holmes or a barclay episode

>>378268449
Talk to Akara for respecs. They added that shit sometime after 1.10.

>>378268449
clay golem frozen skeletal mage and decrepify make all the bosses not a threat and you shouldnt have any points in PnB tree beyond corpse explosion(which will carry you to hell easy)

and there is a respec potion you need 4 of the essences that drop from the act bosses

>>378268464
>Nigga, barely anyone on the game had a completed runeword of relevance.
Retard. There were quite a few cheap runewords that were great, such as White and Spirit. You don't really need god-tier equipment anyways as long as you make a decent build. A necromancer with complete trash can easily defeat the ubers.

>>378268464
Jah Ith Ber

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>>378263931
This famalam
>Tfw will never wake up super early to get on the home computer your brother and you share so you can play some Uther's Party or Line Tower Wars before your brother boots you off to play WoW.
Also
AAAARRRRGH!
Necro, Paladin, and Barbarian best champions all rest can suck them dicks.

>>378268464
while I agree almost all of the things like BoTD were bought or duped there are quite a few nice runewords with small cost like insight spirit or grief

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>>378268865
>find kris in nightmare difficulty
>take to larzuk and he puts three sockets in it
>insert cheap runewords for MALICE kris
>max poison dagger
>100% open wounds
>monsters cannot heal
>30,000 poison damage
>barely any gear needed

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>>378268464
>Dumb newfag poser

>>378268817
Wasn't Enigma so ingrained into the popular internet culture people inserted the rune words into other games/websites?

>Tfw picrelated's background immediately brings flashbacks of sitting watching patch updates on a shitty DSL line.
>Never ever again.

>>378269035
I only remember it getting duped so much that some faggots went super legit to the point of not using even an honestly grinded Enigma.

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>>378269035

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>>378269174
It's a shame Blizz never took care of all the bot and gear-selling that ultimately ruined the game.
>Make a game with no pass.
>Before you even finish loading you got half a screen full of chink-ads selling runes and gear.
It really hurts.

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>>378269026
>not mentioning GOAT daggermancer runeword

>>378269432
There used to be a comprehensive script filtering all of that out when I last played in 2013.

But Blizz really fucked up in that regard. Open bnet was still a fuckton worse than closed, which is why noone played it.

>>378269530
And what would that be? Surely you aren't talking about Bramble?

>>378269432
they did for a short while so now the bots have to modify their client to make it think its an older version and then bypass the auto update somehow

And you can edit your ignore list by opening the file in your install and putting some keywords that will auto filter

>>378268767
You are delusional if you believe most people even took the game that far. 99% of the fanbase were cowlevel/bael rushed and then spent a few hours fucking with abilities and that was it. The rest of the core community is split into people that had hacked/duped items, botters, and people that actually played the game legit.

>>378269654
>a bunch of people are retards that don't actually want to play the game and get rushed
What is your point? This is completely unrelated to this topic, since I'm guessing most people here have taken at least a few characters to hell Baal by themselves. It isn't like it is difficult, anyways.

>first time playing Necro
>holy shit skeletons are awesome, I'm putting all my points into it
>not even death can save you from me
>all your skeletons are dead

You know this happened on your first try and you had to corpse bomb diablo the death

>>378269654
Grinding setups from the top of my head

A1 had Andy Runs
A2 had Sewers
A3 had Travincal
A5 had Baal

>>378264053
Vanilla WoW's hunter class was incredible. Hunting down the rare pets and taming them was one of the best feelings in WoW.

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>>378269605
>Open Bnet.
Fuck I don't care how bugged that shit was opening up a game and having every monster be a fucking boss with normal monster stats and dropping hacked items was the fucking shit as a kid.
>First days on Open Bnet on my first character that I bounced between SP and Open MP.
>Get into a 'free room'.
>Told to go outside to get some freebies.
>Do and proceed to get insta-dueld and gibbed.
>Rez and find out my HP is locked at 17.
>Literally hacked my VIT.
I was at act 2 on that character and back just killing Andariel on Normal was a feat for 12 year old me.

>>378269806
I've played D2 since release and the furthest I've ever gotten is recently getting to NM Baal and dropping for some reason.

>>378269615
treachery

the venom it adds will last for the duration of poison dagger. pretty absurd

>>378268464
>Nigga, barely anyone on the game had a completed runeword of relevance.
degenerate singleplayer player spotted

>>378262036
Yup, and I eagerly await his inclusion in Grim Dawn

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>>378268464
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>378270097
>the venom it adds will last for the duration of poison dagger. pretty absurd
Other way around. The poison dagger will last for the duration of venom, which is 0.4 seconds of duration, which with around 20 seconds of poison dagger duration means the damage is getting divided by 50 unless you hit every 0.4 seconds to renew the poison damage. I'd much rather just stab everything once and have them all die over 7 or so seconds rather than have to stick to a single target until it dies.

>>378268819
d'aww he looks so happy.

>>378264053
Grim Dawn doesn't have a full-on zoo like some games, but the pets get buff as fuck.

>>378266162

Probably the same thing I was when I suffered thru that. The only thing decent they had was thunderstorm.

>>378264507
Act 2 as a necro was.................................................................................................not fun.

>>378270473
I implore you to test it yourself. It works.

>>378270821
Just get teleport and a mercenary and Act 2 is trivial. Hell Ancients is the only hard part about being a summonmancer.

barbar is best

spin to win

>>378264053
City of Villains

oh, I've made myself sad...

>>378269813
How do you corpse bomb diablo with no corpses? I just used decrepify, merc, golem and some arbalest

>>378262558
Well I guess the whole point of arpgs is to have a build that plays itself. The gameplay is really nothing but playing with numbers. Thats why I could never like the genre.

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>>378270293
>Tir Ral

I loved shit like this, just two absolutely dirt cheap runes that make a pretty decent runeword.

>>378270896
>get teleport
what if you played necro when runewords didnt exist yet

>>378271172
always thought it was nice they gave you this right before you get to nightmare since your resist are about to take a hit
same with the quest for +5 all res

>>378271276
you can get staves with teleport on them
necklaces to

>>378267849
>>378264708
but hammerdin wasnt even the strongest.

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>>378271172
This was so easy to make and it lasted me well into nightmare+ on any character. It was so cheap you could just throw them away and not bother muling when you outgrew it.

>>378271386
what, infinity lightning sorc or something?

>>378269945
>pets had different abilities
>pets had different attack types
>pets had different movement speeds
>they weren't just disposable fashion accessories
most of them don't even have abilities any more.

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>http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=40470979

When does Blizzard usually have game sales?
I wanna buy Diablo 2 but don't want to pay full price for it

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i actually lucked out and was able to make an ethereal version of this in a single player hardcore run, I put it on my act 5 merc and he was one hitting almost everything

>>378262036
>not playing SS druid

I'd rather fuck shit up with bleeds and poison.

>>378271696
I dont think I have seen d2 on sale ever
>>378271678
I love shit like this

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>HC Barb vs hell knights

>>378262185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO-vG8oPhhM

>>378271678
wait synergies from skills affect the random cast of spells from items? is that why hes maxing all that shit

>>378264083
*ting*
*bloop-gulp*
WURRRRR!!!

Is Median XL any good?

>bone fetishes
>melee character
What hell is this

>>378272246
Yep, the brand 100%ctc bone spear is fully synergized adding ~1000 magic damage to every attack.

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>barely any games where I can skeleton

Why unlive

>>378269026
How do you personally deal with the life drain?

>>378272482
damn this makes me want to play again but making builds like that require so much wealth

>>378262036
Witch Doctor is the best character by far.

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>>378270293
>play assassin
>wear Leaf and Stealth by act 2

>>378272646
hmm maybe swap to my other weapon set when im not stabbing anything

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>no game where I can play a lich just chilling out in his crypt

Ive only played d3 how much better is d2?

>>378262185

Just go back on ladder resets.

>>378273207
Literally everything BUT the combat D2 does massively better. Item design, builds, PvP, etc. are so much better in D2. D3 just has smooth combat with physics ragdolls, everything else sucks.

>>378262427
Why would you ever uninstall it? The game is like 2 gigs of hd space.

>>378262185
Lucky you the reset is on tuesday.

>>378262558
>he goes summons for necromancer
I can't stop laughing. You would get shit on so hard in the meta for not going curse/bone

>>378273191
you can be an undead necromancer in dwarf fortress if that counts.

>>378273585
Do I need a PhD to play it?

>>378273505
I prefer summons overall but poison nova is so much better than bone
Unless you are talking about pvp then i neither know nor care

>>378273656
adventure mode is much simpler than fortress mode since you have a lot less to manage but you'll still probably need the wiki for help. if you do become a necromancer you can reanimate pretty much anything in the game including dragons and giant underground monsters and run around with an undead army.

>>378273920
>played hots the other day
>got necromancer
>poison nova is SHIT and skeleton mages are GOOD
its kind of ironic

>>378262036
always played zoo necro. friends had so much trouble moving around in the dungeons with all the summons taking up space

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Shame ladder resets aren't as fun anymore.
Duping really fucks up the economy, and d2jsp encourages the motherfuckers.

>>378274056
nova can be good depending on team comps
if they are dive heavy i use nova and get the 20 talent if they are tanky ontop

should I do the 1080p patch if I'm gonna play offline only?

>>378274324
id suggest plugy for offline play
idk if 1080p and plugy can both be used

>>378274195

the dupers and blizzard have a little racket going

blame blizzard

>>378274437
better advertise slashdiablo then

>>378270856
What the fuck. I thought you were pulling a trick on me, but you were right. That is absolutely insane considering venom gets double poison damage from +% poison damage.

>>378271650
Why would they remove this? Pets just feel like a bother now. You see plenty max levels just using the default pet they are given. And that's another thing - not learning to tame after leaving your starting zone. It is just given to you.

I've never really gotten too deep into a diablo-like game, but these threads always pique my interest. Assuming I know jack shit, is there anything I should know before starting D2? How exactly do ladders and seasons work, and is multiplayer integral to the overall experience of the game?

>>378275357
They're anal about everything being "balanced" so they make everything bland and homogenous instead. Game has a bunch of different pet types with different skills? Remove the skills.

So like, should I really pay 40$ so me and my roommate can play this together?

>>378264083
*really loud and sudden monastery door opening sound*

>>378276082
You can just pirate it then do LAN

>>378262036
lag