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Tyranny Didn't Sell: The Usual Obsidian Flop

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http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/paradox-admit-tyranny-sold-below-expectations-dlc-still-in-the-works.115226/

>“Obsidian did a great job of capitalising on the timing of Kickstarter and the wave of nostalgia for these type of titles,” goes his hypothesis. “We've seen that most of the titles after Pillars of Eternity, if you look at Wasteland, Torment - they haven't been anywhere near that kind of success. So maybe it's that a lot of nostalgia fed into the initial bubble and that's why. These games have a market, but it's never gonna be that peak [again].”

Wow it's like Obsidiots don't want to admit that Obsidian creates generally unlikable and unsellable games

>B-BUT POE SOLD!

Only because of Baldur's Gate nostalgia
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Obsidicucks btfo
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The game doesn't even let you be evil
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I don't get why you post this. /v/ didn't even like Tyranny. and the people who seem to say they did are a definite minority. Who here cares?
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>obshitian in the year twenty seventeen and beyond
>obshitian in a post-avellonian era

not even once
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>>378261972
Instead they were focused on going "hur isn't a society run by women great???"
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>>378261763
Please stop posting the same thread.
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>>378262001
/v/ is full of Obsidiots that claim turds like Pillars of Eternity or NWN2 are good games and that "IT'S ALWAYS THE PUBLISHERS FAULT!!!1" for their games not selling.
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>Pillars of Eternity is great
>Sells well
>Sequel gets successfully funded
>Tyranny is garbage
>Sells badly
Woah, really makes you think.
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>>378261968
>>378261972
>>378262131
>>378262214
Samefag
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>>378262447
>>Sells well

But it sold worse than Divinity Original Sin
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They stopped being good at FONV
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>>378262447
>Pillars of Eternity is great
PoE is the most fucking mediocre game in existence. It does nothing new, and has the most mediocre gameplay filled with alright ideas executed alright, but never wekk
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>>378262573
Titanic sold worse than Avatar. Divinity: Original Sin and Pillars of Eternity both sold great.

Also, Pillars of Eternity 2 got over two times the funding that Divinity: Original Sin 2 got :^)
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>>378262664
It got funded because people wanted a game that was just like the games from the past.
People didn't want innovation and would have been angry if they deviated from the recipe.
Are you autistic or something?
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>>378262664
Thank you for sharing your wrong opinion with us.
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Is this the new "bigger cuck than Anthony Burch" copypasted thread?
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>>378262738
>Also, Pillars of Eternity 2 got over two times the funding that Divinity: Original Sin 2 got :^)

But will make more money in copies sold
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>>378262823
Real Time with Pause is outdated. Theres a difference between scorning innovation and sticking with outdated mechanics.
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>>378262951
>Not including kickstarter purchases in the total sales number
Retard alert
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Imagine being OP. Like, Jesus Christ. I'd probably kill myself.
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>>378262976
Autism confirmed.
That's the game they wanted, that's the game they funded, that's the game they got.
>WAAAAHHHHH STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE IT'S """""OUTDATED"""""
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Tyranny is a shit game, why would it sell?
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>>378263020
Kickstarter sales are at a reduced price - Divinity sold more REAL copies you dumb faggot.
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>>378263135
>They're not real sales because I say so
Yeah nah, you're a cunt
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>>378262001
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/subject/Tyranny%20Didn't%20Sell%3A%20The%20Usual%20Obsidian%20Flop/
Every day until you like it.
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>>378263086
I was talking about the game itself, not it's reception and sales. I'm sure that PoE is exactly what they wanted, doesn't mean it's a good game.
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>>378262871
Yes. But those aren't the only two copy-pasted threads this faggot posts on the regular

Some other examples:
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/%3ESeries%20promises%205%20episodes/type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/%3Ele%20i%20hate%20romances%20meme/type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/Allow%20players%20to%20choose%20dialogue%20that%20they%27d%20actually%20want%20to%20say%20whether%20it%20be%20good%2C%20evil%20or%20neutral%20aka%20any%20RPG%20worth%20its%20salt/type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/Holy%20shit%20you%20neutralfags%20are%20insufferable/type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/%3EThose%20people%20that%20go%20i%20want%20to%20be%20neutral/type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/In%20Dragon%20Age%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20dialogue%2C%20you%27re%20stuck%20with/type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/Wow.%20Obsidian%20are%20truly%20the%20masters%20of%20RPGs./type/op/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/earthbound%20bike/type/op/

These are just some off the top of my head. He
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>>378263132
I don't see the problem with that. That's clearly supposed to be "something fucks you up so much that all your senses get crosswired".
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>>378263341
>it's a bad game
In your opinion.
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Tyranny was pretty good and PoE was amazing for me, favorite game since Morrowind. But I'm not implying this has anything to do with their """success""" as even though I'm exactly their demographic, I've put about 700-1600 hrs into less than 5 games and 0-5 into every other game.

Point being, I think the people who want PoE/PoE2/Tyranny/Torment don't just want it, they're downright thirsty for it
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>>378263382
Obshittiot games use way too many descriptors of movements.
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>>378263596

It's a bad game on the binary 10-year old scale where everything is either AWESOME or complete shit, with no room for nuances across a more diversified spectrum or field.

Now Pillars wasn't a great game. But it was solid, and offered some pretty interesting executions of some old ideas, even if it failed to capitalize on all that old design space left dormant for too long.
Not a future cult classic by any stretch, but certainly worth your time if you're a fan of the genre.
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It's okay, I really wanted to love it.

I wanted to play exclusively as a servant as Tunon, but they push you into taking a side between two fairly boring factions (I liked The Voices of Nerat as a character though and how he interacts with you through the dialogue box.)

I'm trying to like the companions but finding I don't care much for them at all, I find I don't care about their goals/dreams/motivations/opinions or whether they like or dislike me, they're just there and mildly annoying. Which is really odd for me because characters are the lifeblood of good story driven RPGs and I usually love them. Bleden Mark was cool I guess, and Tunon.
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>>378263047
Maybe he already did, and what we see is just his bot. Like a dead star, we will see its light until the the electricity is turned off, even though it's long gone.
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>>378263203
One funds production, the other is profit. Use your brain a little, the difference is not that hard to grasp.
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>>378264808
And in a non-kickstarter game sales fund both production and profit, so it makes sense
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>>378264841
And then she got changed into Durance. God bless Obsidian.
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Why is Sawyer of all people the face of Obsidian again?
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>>378265198
As Dr. Zaius would say

>He's a cuck, he's a cuck, he's a CUUUUUCK
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>>378264865
>And in a non-kickstarter game sales fund both production and profit

...what?

Okay, I'm trying to make sense of what you said. If you have two projects, one that had a smaller and one that had a bigger budget, and then the former outsells the latter at a similar price, there is no question which one earned more profits. Budget is budget, when it's big they do it in the hopes that it will generate better sales. Of course in this case neither game's budget came (completely) from the studios, but a higher budget still doesn't translate to better business for the studio.
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>>378261763
Ok, here is the deal:

I just beat the game. It was awesome. I was never a fan of baldur's gate and icewind dale.
Played vanilla PoE, and it was ok, but nothing too much for me, but Tyranny was just WOW.
To be honest, the only part i didn't like is that it NEEDS expansion/dlc, to complete the story as a whole.
Tyranny did well because of PoE already a success, I know, but for me it's a LOT better. Sad it didn't sold well.
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tl;dr: Because he sucks at getting women in real life, he wants his characters to be as big of losers as he is (if he isn't a fag like Tim Cain)
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>>378266515
They confirmed they have a DLC/Expansion in the works, even though it sold badly.
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>>378266515

I was interested in it until it was revealed that the "being evil" thing and the multiple paths thing were just elaborate character selection along with a PG-13 evil but not evil flawed protagonist coating.

They pulled their punches so it didn't interest me.
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>>378262447
>>Pillars of Eternity is great

it's overdesigned masturbatory core mechanics (xp distribution, itemization and character progression) prevent it from becoming better than just above average
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>>378266678
But will it be good/satisfying as a kinda low budget? That's the real question
I just want a good destruction of Kyros himself dlc, and i'm all good
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>>378263341
>. I'm sure that PoE is exactly what they wanted, doesn't mean it's a good game.

nah, people wanted Baldur's Gate 2 in a different setting

what they got was as similar to BG2 as Diablo 3 is to Diablo 2
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>One was a good game
>The other was a SJW trash where you couldn't even ignore the most blatant SJW themes

I could kill gays and atheists in PoE. I know that sounds extremely edgy but it's there. I just don't like playing a deep immersive RPG where you aren't allowed to even pick a view point. What's the point of trying to create a long lengthy interactive story if you remove any appearance of choices? I just couldn't let myself buy Tyranny even when it became heavily discounted.
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>>378267423
Even Dragon Age Origins let you play a bigot against elves

I'll never understand garbage games like Telltale episodes where you're given choices that literally don't effect anything.
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>>378263382

The problem isn't the content but the context. It reads like a liberal arts major wrote it and not a buff of ancient brutal tales. It reads like a community college drop out wrote it and not a prize winning novelist. It reads like shit. Games heavy on the story better deliver a stellar story to make up for the lack of gameplay. A game that does one thing amazingly well and another thing subpar is forgivable.

A game that plays like shit, sounds like shit and has a story like shit is indeed, shit itself.

Examples:

Music - Jet Set Radio future, crap everything else.
Story - Deadly Premonition, crap everything else.
Gameplay - Revengeance, crap everything else

Heck, you can even get away with a lot of crappy parts in a game if at least the characters in it are above and beyond that they become memes.
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