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Will any Japanese developer ever rise above Rockstar Games?

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Will any Japanese developer ever rise above Rockstar Games?
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>>378229386
kojima
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Is this a real tweet? MGSV looks just as good as GTAV, possibly better. The world is bigger, if less populated, and the gameplay is way better, too. I mean, he doesn't have to brag about that shit like an ass, but he could at least not whine about it being worse when it objectively isn't.
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in terms of sales number no

they need to produce ameriboo dudebro AAA trash or full western fantasy open world AAA garbage to achieve it as rockstar and ubi and cdpr and bethesda and shit do
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>>378229386
It will be very hard. This is one of those times where budgeting and production values will come into play and I'm not sure any Japanese developer has the money to compete with Rockstar other than Sony and Kojima Productions.

Square sucks ass right now, FromSoft is to niche and can't dream bigger than the Souls formula.
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GTAV was pretty shit though.
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>>378229386
Not every GTAV mission started with intro credits that spoiled the entire scenario.

What the fuck was he even thinking when he was developing this game. Fuck MGSV.
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>>378230165
Rockstar and CDPR are objectively better and inspire more than any current Japanese dev other than maybe Nintendo EPD and Kojima
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>>378230472
>CDPR
Stopped reading there
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>>378230596
tw3 world is the best open world so far you fucking shit
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>>378230596
That's cute but you still can't dismiss me. Any of the devs making ab open world game are going to look at TW3 and what it did right. A long with what R* puts out.
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Kojima is such a hack.
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>>378230908
better than Hidetaka Miyazaki and Yoko Taro
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>>378229386
They've shipped a total of 80 million copies of GTAV, and 25% of their sales were digital sales so they're raking in money hand over fist.
Not even Nintendo games can compete with that so I don't see it ever happening.

https://www.vg247.com/2017/05/23/gta-5-continues-to-do-the-business-for-take-two-with-80-million-shipped/
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Rockstar is at its best when they're not making GTA or GTA-like games. Bring back Manhunt, make a new Max Payne, and get someone to make a sequel to L.A. Noire, you fuckers.
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>>378231145
>Rockstar is at its best when they're not making GTA or GTA-like games
The fact their legacy, success and influence was built off GTA says otherwise. But RDR is my favorite R* game
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No.

Not unless you count asshole puckering simulators or something.
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>>378231145
>Rockstar is at its best when they're not making GTA or GTA-like games.

So basically when it's not really Rockstar then, it's the companies that Rockstar bought and renamed Rockstar.
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>>378229386
This is depressing if he is not shitposting.
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Both MGSV and GTAV are pretty disappointing. They're just boring open world games with very little interesting things to do and are worse than their predecessors.
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>>378229386
The funny thing is that both Japanese devs and rockstar are treating their employees like slaves otherwise their games would be garbage. They are devoted but not everyone can be like that
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>>378231272
Sure the boring motherfuckers will keep buying the boring Rockstar games like crazy, but high sales doesn't mean good vidya. Not to say GTA and Red Dead Redemption are bad, but they're not nearly as interesting or entertaining as their not GTA-like games.
>>378231614
Hey man, they're called Rockstar.
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>westaboo japanese auteur director splurges over a shallow carjacking simulator

I mean, Grand Theft Auto is fun and all for short spurts, but there's not anything else to it besides beating whores and stealing cars. It's just a sandbox where you indulge in a desire to go so crazy the national guard has to be deployed to contain it.
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>>378231774
Or you'r not a game director and don't realize what makes for the best games, that the best devs want to make.

No one wants to make niche shit.
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>>378229386
>more than 140 characters
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>>378230319

I look away at this shit
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>>378230796

Open world is way the fuck over used and hardly a good thing anymore
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>>378231774
its westabooposting. he does this cause he wants to get attention from the western audiences by showing off his knowledge of the western industry.
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>>378230472
I'll give you that they're much more influential but quality-wise all of the big recent jap games (Zelda, Persona, Yakuza, Nier etc.) shit on GTA and Witcher
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>>378232545
>he does this cause he wants to get attention from the western audiences by showing off his knowledge of the western industry.
Yeah, becasue he has already peeked in the Japanese gaming scene and industry. There's no competition over there for him anymore, unless you want to compete with Nintendo, which he doesn't care for.

He has said that the only reason he got back into making games after MGS 4 is because of RDR.
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>>378230796
>>378230472

Hey look it's the Witcher 3 death cult, TW3's open world is barely even a step above Far Cry 3's, it's tacked on, pointless, repetitive and full of garbage the game would be better without, like the loot system the the Batman vision.

I fucking hate TW3, literally the Skyrim of this generation of games, possibly even worse because Skyrim isn't based on those garbage overrated books.
Fuck.


I loved the Witcher 1 but no they had to go full casual GoT appeal with 2 and 3 with their garbage young adult writing and increasingly batman combat
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>>378233716
Oh look the Bethesda shill is here. Kill yourself retard.
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>>378229947
he actually respects and looks up to the R* team. This is not the first time he has mentioned about their quality, he was inspired to push MGS2 and 3 to it's graphical limits because of what GTA3 and VC was doing
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>>378233968
>me
>bethesda shill
>pirated skyrim on release
>bought it when it was 5 bucks on sale
>only ever played the DLC when the special edition came out but never paid for them

I dislike Skyrim and the kind of meme game development it spawned but TW 3 is just a derivative piece of shit coming straight out of the SkyrimXGame of TurdsXBatman asshole of game developpment;I was one of the retards who supported CDPR when they released the first Witcher, I bought it retail on release, then I bought the Enhanced Edition retail when it came out and then I bought it again on Steam, did the same with Witcher 2, but Witcher 3 ?

It's just pure overrated garbage and I can't believe anyone who is not a casual or an underage edgy cunt can like or support this pile of vomited feces.
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>>378229947
the gameplay sucks dick
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>>378233716
Kill your fucking self, Witcher's 1 combat was worse than any batman combat. And whats wrong with 2 besides the small ass maps?
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>>378235016
>focus on shitty politics rather than being a witcher
>dumb plot in general
>no neutral path

And no, nothing is worse than Batman combat.
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Only cucks play western trash. You're not white if you play games made by non japanese developers.
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>>378230194
>Kojima
>budgeting
>production values

Pick one and only one.
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>>378235167
>Only cucks play western trash.
Like already stated in this topic, your other favorite Japanese devs suck ass and is why Kojima doesn't have interest in competing with them
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>>378235263
Better than any western cuck trash with nigger tranny diversity quotas.
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>>378235124
>Neutral path

How can one individual be so wrong? I feel bad for you honestly


>>378235167
Im trying to make sense out of your words but I just cant
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>>378229947
He's judging it based on a trailer, GTAV's were impressive. Developers aren't immune to falling for hype.
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>>378235391
>He's judging it based on a trailer,
I'd think Kojima would kill himself to have 80 million sales and a 97 meta score.

Game ended up being probably what the thought it would be.
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>>378235348
Give me ONE valid reason why shouldnt they be included in games? Be objective IF you can
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>>378229386
Shouldn't be too hard, considering Rockstar Games aren't that good.
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>>378235728
>Shouldn't be too hard, considering Rockstar Games aren't that good.
List a better studio so we can laugh at you anon.
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>>378235785
Larian
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>>378235785
>so WE can laugh at you anon.
What a great argument.

CDPR
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>>378235689
Because (((they))) keep promoting it. They want less whites and more mentally ill degenerates and dindus. You're a cuck for supporting them because you've shown vidya is more important than saving your race.
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>>378229386
HARO DO YOU RIKE IT
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>>378236058
He's not wrong.

GTA V was pretty much the worst mainline GTA game and showed the Rockstar cares more about money then putting a decent product out there.

GTAO is embarrassing bad to the point of feeling like an early access game. It's also designed to push you into either buying more shark cards or just exploiting something Rockstar is too incompetent to fix.
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>>378234312
>I bought it again on Steam, did the same with Witcher 2, but Witcher 3 ?
>It's just pure overrated garbage

Voice of reason on /v/ ?
Jesus Christ,dude we need to meet somewhere.
How do we get in contact,you do discord?
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>>378229386
Sales wise? Maybe, but it's highly unlikely unless it's a mobile game.

Actual game wise?

Been done for ages.
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>>378236313
>Hates Witcher 3
>uses discord

Confirmed underage lmfao.
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It took Zelda to introduce the most complimentary mechanic that an overworked game could have. Fully degradable/self-destructible arsenal. That should tell you something about the current state of the industry having changed since 1987 (i.e. it hasn't. Everyone is still waiting for Nintendo to move the first piece, so they can mirror it).
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test do not reply
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>>378229386
Slit eyed cuck.
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>>378235959
Take your head out of your ass, stop letting 4chan influence your speech and your political views. White people have had it too good at expense of those who now are fighting back, way I see it, theyre giving you a taste of your own medicine. Also this is more than just videogames
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>>378236454
test again please ignore
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>>378229386
The jap slant eyes will never surpass western games. This is why they are closing down left and right.

At least Kojima knows the west is superior when it comes to video games. It's a start and should be an example for all weebs to stop their delusions.
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>>378236418
>not using discord with 10minutemail
>not using discord browser only in private tab
lol
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>>378236568
>using discord

Youve been found Underage. Leave the thread with the little bit of dignity youve got left.
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>>378236667
Nigger days of the IRC are gone.
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>>378236451
>botw
>first open world game to have degradable/breakable weapons

You just get in from stupid town?
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>>378236527
You're insane
I'm white and went to war when I was 17, a bunch of other "whites" attacked my country
My family somehow survived, but many people died
The fuck does the color of skin have to do with having an easy or hard life in this day and age?
White people were slaves too but it doesn't matter
That was a long ago and those people are long dead, nothing to do with today
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>>378233716
This isn't even a contrarian, just a really angry nigger that got memed on.
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>>378236527
>way I see it, theyre giving you a taste of your own medicine

Letting poor people into our countries sure is deserving of "our medicine"

Remember none of this would happen if we weren't so nice, "way I see it", other races would have opted for ethnic cleansing of whoever is causing trouble long ago.
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>>378229386
twitter has a 140 character limit you fucking idiots
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Did nobody not notice the tweet was well over the character limit?
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>>378237286
whatever you say CDPReddit drone
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>>378229386
not a chance
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>>378229947
kojimbo is the biggest westaboo in existance
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>>378237860
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>>378237665
>>378237723
it's well under it retard
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>>378237665
>Translate from japanese

What could that possibly mean?
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>>378236527
Underage Amerifat detected
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>>378238247
it's the character limit bigger in japan?
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>>378235689
historical accuracy
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>>378238165
>types an essay
>it's well under it retard
Whoa looks like I'm the retard...
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>Hideo Kojima admires the Houser brothers
>Todd Howard admires the Houser brothers
>Peter Molyneux admires the Houser brothers
>Eiji Aonuma admires the Houser brothers
>they do what other devs dream of doing without ever compromising
>they can legally print money and yet still improve the production values of their games tenfold with each subsequent release
>80 million sales
>98-97 average metacritic score for their games
Rockstar indeed.
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>>378238836
Sorry that you can't count fucko
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>>378238886
This guy gets it
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>>378232297
It is translated from Japanese
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>>378235167
Go fuck your pillow you pathetic weeaboo faggot
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>>378239040
>javascript:quote('378191814');
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>>378234137
But... 3 and VC were never graphically impressive?
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>>378239256
I will, you punk ass baka gaijin.
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>>378239516
What the fuck?
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>>378239463
No idea how that got there
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>>378239516
How would you know, you fucking child?
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This thread is nice and all, but when is R* going to make Bully 2?
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Japanese devs are usually pretty horrible when it comes to technical stuff, but they focus on the right things most of the time. Honestly japanese studios should work together with western ones to create games. Like a street fighter game made by NRS while capcom supervises character design and animations? It would be the best thing ever.
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>>378239649
Because it ran like horse shit, you fucking child?
Game was blurry as fuck and VC at least made the lighting effects better but still didn't fix the framerate.
I'm sorry that you only played GTA games as a child but in 99 (3 years before GTA 3 came out) there were few more graphically impressive games on both PC and consoles then GTA 3.
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>>378229386
>gets hype over a trailer
Kojima is trash.
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>>378240234
What a gay.
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>>378239516
fucking child
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>>378240391
It seems you are a child if you think those games were graphically impressive, stop parroting shit your favorite youtubers say and form your own opinion or at least be able to discuss something and not name call like a "fucking child" ;)
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>>378229947
>MGSV looks just as good as GTAV, possibly better.
GTA V came out 2 years earlier and the world is way more sophisticated than in MGSV. The animations are also more advanced as are the number of physics based systems.
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>>378241068
>It seems you are a child if you think those games were graphically impressive
No one has R* production values. get this in your head kid
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>>378241465
Sure sure my child, I bet you heard this from your favorite youtuber too?
We were talking about 3 and VC which didn't have that big budget compared to few other graphically impressive games at that time.
But it's nice of you to move goal posts and try to outwit others by shilling your precious R* studio, good luck next time!!!
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>>378241465

GTA 3 looked horrible. GTA: VC was redeemed only with some clever coloration and early bloom effects, but still didn't look that incredible. They were O.K for the time, with III aging like sun-exposed milk.
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>>378236139
>at least complete one game before you die
will he ever do it?
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>>378230472
>Kojima
lol
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>>378242108
No as long as SONY has infinite budget for him.
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>>378229947

Kojima is a massive westaboo.

He wanted MGS3 to be open-word because of GTA3 but his team told him it was impossible to do stealth in an open world. Then Assassin's Creed came out and proved his team wrong. That's the reason why you can unlock Altiar's costume in MGS4.
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>>378229386
They have a very good attention to detail but character control wise MGSV is superior

Only thing it's really missing is a forward roll and shooting from cover
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>>378229947
>The world is bigger
Ummm
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