What games are the best in their series?

Where's MGSV?

but new vegas is the best modern fallout

>>378225564
Bloodbourne
Fallout 3
GTA 5
Bioshock 1
Halo 2-3

And NO ONE thinks Halo 5 was good in any way.

>>378225617
*4

What a shitty fucking thread. Why is this garbage even allowed here?

sage.

>>378225617
>>378225703
2**

>>378225564
Whoever calls out fnv being the worst have never played any other fallout title below 3.

I'm okay with DSII and GTA4 tho

>>378225564
>What is Brotherhood of Steel

>>378225564
I never played GTA IV. is it actually good compared to SA or VC?

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>>378225564
>dark souls II
Never played it

>Fallout: New Vegas
I don't know I never played it

>GTA IV
never played it

>bioshock infinite
nope never played it

>halo 5
Hmmm... Nope can't say I've ever EVER played it.

>>378225695
it has okay multiplayer

>>378225564
>Dark Souls 2
True, but it's still really good
>Fallout: NV
I guess this is the bait part
>GTA IV
I don't like any of them
>Bioshock Infinite
Easily the worst
>Halo 5
Worst campaign at least

>>378225564
definitely
Bloodborne
Fallout 2
Vice City
Bioshock 2
and Halo 2
trbqfhwya fampai

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>>378225564
DS2 and New Vegas actually are the best games in their series

>>378225564
Souls:
Bloodborne = Dark Souls > Demon's Souls > SOTFS > Dark Souls 3

Fallout:
New Vegas > 2 > 1 > 3 > 4

GTA:
Vice City > San Andreas > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

Bioshock:
1 = 2 > Infinite

Halo:
3 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 4

>>378225823

fnv is fucking shit

>>378225703
Who the fuck has EVER hailed 4 as the best MGS?

>>378225564
>New Vegas and GTA IV
Man you are one contrarian shitposter.

Christ forbid somebody likes a game you don't

>>378225564
>halo 5

who the fuck hails that as the best who isn't memeing?

>>378225564
Halo 3 or reach
MGS 3
Call of Duty Big red one
Battlefield 3
>>378225695
5's multiplayer is okay/average at best, just which i didnt need req packs to get armor

>>378225564
>Dark Souls
All shit.

>Fallout
2 (idiot run) >>> 1 > 2 (normal run) > 4 = NV > 3 > Tictacs >>>> BoS

>GTA
IV >>> VC = SA > 3 > 5 > 2 > 1

>Bioshock
All mediocre.

>Halo
Only played 1 and 2.

>>378227246
You forgot your Van Buren

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>Halo 5 is worse than Halo 4
>Halo 5 is bad
Hey AngryJoe, hows that bronze CSR treating you?

>>378227406
It wasn't even finished. The real time combat was shit.

>>378226952
4 is objectively the best metal gear experience of all time

>Never played MGO2

Your opinions dont matter kid

>>378226860
> Halo 3 > 2
Enjoy that underage ban.

>>378227624
I'm 30 years old. I was playing video games before you were even a squirt in your daddy's nut. Kill yourself.

>>378225564
New Vegas was great.

GTA 4 was good too.

>>378225564
>bioshock infinite
>vocal minority

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>enabling OP's bait faggotry.
Faggots.

>>378227615
Oh no its retarded

>>378227062
Competitive veterans who disregard the campaign.
People who enjoy Forge/Custom Games.

>>378227679
You're blatantly underage if you think Halo 3 was better than Halo 2 or 1. Kill yourself.

>>378225695
The best in each respective series right?

>>378227615
>4 is objectively the best metal gear experience of all time

you're smoking crack.

>>378225564
Reach is by far the best Halo

>>378225823
>Whoever calls out fnv being the worst have never played any other fallout title below 3.

Whatever lies you have to tell yourself. You like a shittier game. Sorry.

>>378225564
Dark Souls 2 and Halo 5 were never even CLOSE to being hailed as "best" in the series. GTA IV is not the worst in the series, and while it was praised on release, the public sobered up to it pretty fast, and in the long run it turned out to be much less popular than games like San Andreas. Bioshock Infinite was praised by critics for some reason, but it did not even sell well and I don't think there is anyone left who praises it as a good game, much less as the best in the series.

And New Vegas good. Claiming that it's better than the original Fallout 1/2 is a bit of a stretch, but it's the best of the new games, MILES AND MILES above Fo3/4.

>>378225823
I love FO2 and NV was a shitty attempt at trying to recapture it's feeling. FO3 recaptured the soul of FO1 better than NV did to FO2.

>>378228001
>MILES AND MILES above Fo3/4.

Extra missions and stats don't make up for a flat, boring desert with nothing but shacks and dogshit pacing.

>>378226898
>>378227992
>I have never heard of BoS
Fuck off bethshit defence brigade no one thinks you're precious generic shit heaps are even as bad as the worst game in the franchise.

>>378228001
New Vegas is one of the overrated games by almost everyone in this board.

I liked bioshock infinite. I don't get why people whine about it so much.

>>378227797
>>378227983
>trying to fit in by shitting on a game you never played

Why are ledditors always this pathethic

>>378228212
This is almost incomprehensible

What the fuck are you saying

>>378226528
>>GTA IV
>I don't like any of them
what and edge lord

R*>Fromshit any day of the week.

>>378225695
>fallout 3 the best in the series
oh my god what a shitter.

>>378228001
Go to the Halo (((subreddit))). It's pretty much the last cohesive Halo community and everyone there shills Halo 5 and shits on anything but.

Some of them there actually believe the "Halo 5 multiplayer is the best in the series" meme. It's pathetic.

>>378228519
Go back

>>378228180
>>378228242
NV also has the most boring fetch quests. Sure, the dialogues and choices are better than 3 and 4, no one denies that, but when it comes to fetching, it's tedious as fuck. You don't see anything like Vault 106 or Dunwich building, all the environments are stale.

>>378225564
>halo 5
>worse than 4

4/10 got me to reply

>>378225564
All true except NV.

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>>378228519
>It's pathetic
Its also true.

Nobody gives a fuck what a shitter like you who couldnt break Rank 10, Lieutenant or Gold CSR thinks about multiplayer Halo.

>>378225564
My Subjective Opinions are Fact Thread Ver 9238467578236532765.0

>>378228665
The writing is better and the gameplay is significantly worse. Little ammo additions and stats multipliers don't make for an interesting game unless you have autism. New Vegas is a better game on paper, and worse in practice.

FO4 is worse than New Vegas by several miles.

>>378228180
>Extra missions and stats don't make up for a flat, boring desert with nothing but shacks and dogshit pacing.
There are more interesting and unique locations in New Vegas than in Fallout 3. And also: actually good mechanics, good settings, good characters, good world and world-building, good map design, good writing, good story, good problem-solving, good choices and consequences: those do save it.

God you people are trash. It's terrifying how this board is flooded by trash.

>>378228242
Overrated? Maybe. I don't really care. I have to admit that I found the fact that it has consistently at least one thread up for six years somewhat puzzling: I liked it but I don't see what is so good about it to warrant that much attention... but then again who cares. It's not a bad game, let's be happy that a good game gets praise for once.

It is without a doubt better than the two Fallouts that Beth released, and the only good Fallout game since Fo2. That is all that matters.

>>378228519
>Some of them there actually believe the "Halo 5 multiplayer is the best in the series" meme.
Some people on reddit? Yeah... who cares?

>>378225564
Fuck off, Bioshock 2 is the one that faggots say is secretly good but was panned by everyone at the time.

Way more people genuinely like infinite than the people who say that Bioshock 2 is the best game.

>bioshock 2 is better than bioshock infinite
are you actually retarded?
this fucking bioshock infinite hate bandwagon
neckbeards are so butthurt about bioshock infinite
pathetic honestly

>>378228439
The only worthwhile GTA is VC.

>>378225564
"This an objective fact" Oh fuck off.

>>378225564
>nv the worst
>when tactics exists
Cute attempt, op

>>378229061
>There are more interesting and unique locations in New Vegas than in Fallout 3.

Here's why I don't respect New Vegas fanboys. I already know this. You're so fucking stupid that you think more = better.

>Actually good mechanics

They fall by the wayside because the game is so piss easy, even on the hardest difficulties.

>good settings

Significantly worse than Fallout 3. Fallout 3 had years more development time to build world architecture and it shows massively.

>good characters

All Fallout games have good characters

>good world and world-building, good map design

Again, significantly worse than Fallout 3. They made a flat desert and filled it with shacks. Entering the New Vegas Strip is commonly referred to as the most disappointing reveal in any game. There's more shacks than Fallout 3. Quantity does not equal quality.

>good writing, good story, good problem-solving, good choices and consequences:

The only thing I'll give you. Bethesda writing is embarassing.

>Halo 5

it's atleast better then 4 and maybe 1

>>378229061
>good mechanics
Eh, I like the crafting, but FO4 did it better. I can only appreciate the DR/DT based ammunition thing, and there are more interesting guns too. Hacking is more balanced than 3. That's all about it that I can think of.

>good settings
>good characters
>good map design
Objectively wrong.

>good story
There's barely any story.

>>378228439
The gta games are all fairly average and only get there praise due to popularity. They are easily the worst games rockstar have put out.

>>378229307
Tactics and 4 anon

Halo 5 is shit but it's a mile above Halo 4

>>378229748
>You're so fucking stupid that you think more = better.
But they are better. Compare Vaults from NV to Vaults from Fo3. Compare New Vegas itself to fucking Rivet city. They are bigger, use more unique assets, contain more interesting places, stories, quests.

>They fall by the wayside because the game is so piss easy,
While the game is hardly difficult, it's still harder than Fo3 which hands you a fucking fatboy 2 hours into the gameplay and mechanically DOES NOT ALLOW YOU to run into an enemy that is not level scaled for you to be always beatable.

>Significantly worse than Fallout 3.
You are braindead. Quite literally. Also "more development time: ever heard of Van Buren? There is no "architecture of world" the world of FO3 LITERALLY MAKES NO SENSE. It's bunch of randomly placed locations with NO RHYME OR REASON. You have metro station next to a barn in a middle of a rocky valley. You have a trade hub with no inn, no infrastructure, tucked away from any fucking reasonable route between major locations.
You have thriving city literally innaccessible without going through ghoul-infested metro, supermutant-infested city or raider land general. No actual access to that supposed hub of life - literally surrounded by radioactive water.
You have no factions, no politics, no trade routes, no agriculture, no actual biomes, no explanation for sources of food, energy, water. You have children city existing for two centuries next to a canibal raider camp.

What the fuck is wrong with you?! How is this better "world architecture"?!
There is NO logic, no system, nothing to the world of Fo3.

>All Fallout games have good characters
Except for Fo3 and 4.

>There's more shacks than Fallout 3.
Uh, you do realize that the single biggest city in Fo3 is Megaton, right? Compared to the actual Las Vegas? This is delusion at this point.

>>378226004
Beaten base game and Lost and Danmed. It's pretty good, and aged a lot less than the others.

>>378229906
>Objectively wrong.
See >>378230704

Also:
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
https://www.engadget.com/2008/10/29/nega-review-fallout-3/
http://ludusnovus.net/2011/09/01/how-fallout-3-should-have-been/
Anyone with half a fucking brain called out Fallout 3 for terrible, terrible fucking world building and design.

>>378229748
>More INTERESTING AND UNIQUE
>Hurr Durr desert filled with shacks
Heres why I don't respect F3 Fanboys. They lack comprehension. NV has more actual unique locations which combined with NV's better writing/quests/mechanics/loot etc makes the world more INTERESTING to explore. So in this case Quantity really does equal Quality you fucking retard.
>Good Characters
3 had none,NV had many.And companions in NV are leagues ahead as well.
>Good writing,story,choices,consequences etc
Exactly why NV is superior to 3 and 4. Would you kindly get better taste ffs

>>378225564
>GTA V: every pedestrian wants to beat you up for standing within 10 feet of them, every cop instantly headshots you.
>Somehow not worse than IV

>>378225564
wow all of those images are correct!

>>378229906
Your opinion is objectively wrong

>>378226159
What the fuck do you play then?

>>378229307
>>378230214
>Not BHoS

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>>378231129
>you share a video game board with absolute plebs like this

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You're right, New Vegas is the worst one

>>378230704
>Compare Vaults from NV to Vaults from Fo3
Every Vault in 3 has a backstory behind them and better level design. NV's Vaults are randomly put together and convoluted, the backstory isn't as interesting as well. Bigger only makes it more tedious.

>still harder than Fo3 which hands you a fucking fatboy 2 hours into the gameplay
Equipment also degrade more easily in FO3, so it isn't all that easier. Also, leveling in NV and 3 doesn't make much change in combat. You still die quickly fighting deathclaw no matter at what level in NV.

>You have no factions, no politics, no trade routes, no agriculture, no actual biomes, no explanation for sources of food, energy, water.
Compared to East Coast, DC was bombed to oblivion. Most of the population were relatively newcomers, save for the ghouls.

>Except for Fo3 and 4.
Would disagree on 4.

>Compared to the actual Las Vegas?
That's one town. Outside Vegas, it was dull.

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>>378231480

>>378232278
I replied.

>>378231480
>>378231480
Spot the assblasted NVfag

>>378225687
3*

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>>378226860
>SOTFS > Dark Souls 3

>>378232395
>if it praises FO3, it must be b8

This is why everybody on /v/ laughs at NVfags.

>>378226860
This across the board /thread

>>378225564

>New Vegas
Garbage taste m8

>>378232278
>Every Vault in 3 has a backstory behind them and better level design. NV's Vaults are randomly put together and convoluted,
This is just... pure delusion. Are you telling me that shit like Little Lamplight has a better background story than Vault 11? That anything in Fallout 3 compared in design to Vault 22?
Like even the most fucking deluded idiots in the world are not going to claim that Vaults in Fo3 were well designed.

>Equipment also degrade more easily in FO3, so it isn't all that easier.
Getting replacement is laughably easy, because there are actually incredibly few weapons in that game, and they lie EVERYWHERE.

>Also, leveling in NV and 3 doesn't make much change in combat.
Dude, level scaling COMPLETELY changes how the game plays. That is an objective fact.

Also:
>You still die quickly fighting deathclaw no matter at what level in NV.
That is a good thing, and a weird complaint right after you said that NV is too easy.

>Compared to East Coast, DC was bombed to oblivion.
That is an excuse. Does not make the world shallow, boring, lacking and depth, intricacy, structure, or good design.

>That's one town
That makes it one more than what Fo3 has to offer. There is more content in fucking Good Springs than in fucking Megaton - story quest and character wise. Then you have Novac, the Air Strip, the Chem-users base... that is so much more content than the absolutely empty and terribly designed Megaton and Rivet City in Fo3. Ugly cities: one is a set of corrodors and the other a bunch of shacks that you seem to hate that much: each with like three unique, completely fucking linear quests.

Remember how insanely pointless the rest of the cities were? That city with the single, cringeworthy fucking Superhero quest? That one founded by people who left Little Lamplighgt (god- how fucking stupid was little lamplight?!) that had literally NO quests at all?

What the fuck.

>>378225564
Hi OP, still haven't gotten over your crippling autism yet huh?

>>378225564
>GTA IV
>Worst
Anon we know you just made this shit up. Also Halo 5 isn't hailed as the best by fucking anyone.

>Top three are the best in the series
>Bottom two are the worst
Subtle, nice, and elegant troll, if you will.

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>>378226860
>New Vegas better than anything

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It honestly baffles me that there are people who unironically believe that New Vegas is better than Fallout 2. They're probably either a 14 year old who has never actually played F2 or they're just a retard. Or both.

Super Street Fighter II Turbo

>>378228178

>FO3
>having anything that even resembles a soul

>>378233435

It's certainly better than 3 or 4.

>>378225564
I agree with FONV and infinite
VC is best GTA
I don't play souls or halo so idk

>>378227679
If you are +30 and consider Halo as anything positive, woe you

>>378228178
>FO3 recaptured the soul of FO1 better than NV did to FO2.
Yeah, nothing captured the soul of Fo1 better than the vampires, the cyborgs, supermutants being now weakings that a random 16 years old boy can slaughter en-mass hours after he left a sheltered Vault life, the giant fucking American robot kicking nuclear bombs like footballs and shoots lasers from his eyes, the purely black-and-white morality system, the carefree settlement sitting in a middle of absolute wasteland not worrying about food, water or protection, characters straight out of a cartoon, incredibly dense, claustrophobic landscapes not based in real world geography or climate, nuclear bombs being treated as a funny joke, moral preaching about how racism is always bad from 3Dog, and absence of a difficulty curve.

Yeah: that is exactly what I think off when I think of Fo1. God you are retarded.

>>378226159
this

>>378234237
People actually replying "this" to a post in which somebody joins a thread to explain how he does not actually play games.
This is neo/v/ for you.

>>378233063
>Are you telling me that shit like Little Lamplight has a better background story than Vault 11?
Speaking subjectively, I like how kids in Little Lamplight grow up and go to Big Town only to be kidnapped and raped by Supermutants. I remember Vault 11's map design for being tedious as fuck, like the rest of NV vaults. Didn't care much about the selective killing or some shit subplot that you only get from voice mails.

>Getting replacement is laughably easy
Not really true for the best guns. There's no Jury Rigging.

>level scaling COMPLETELY changes how the game plays
Dunno, maybe you have more HP, but weapon damage doesn't get significant upgrade.

>That is a good thing, and a weird complaint right after you said that NV is too easy.
I didn't say that NV is easier. I was just saying that level doesn't matter much in NV either.

>Does not make the world shallow, boring, lacking and depth, intricacy, structure, or good design.
Yes it does, people had less time to build. DC's city design itself is more interesting than Mojave though.

>That makes it one more than what Fo3 has to offer.
Correct, but still severely underwhelming compared to New Reno, so both games failed at making a good town. Besides, FO3 shows the hopeless side of the world, large towns would only ruin the immersion.

>There is more content in fucking Good Springs than in fucking Megaton
I remember Moira's and Burke's quests lasting very long and giving you more incentive to explore. FO3 doesn't need many towns as I've already said.

>Ugly cities
That means they did it right.

>>378234169
Visually and atmospherically. FO3 was a visual experience.

>>378234746
>I remember Vault 11's map design for being tedious
I don't think you know what the word "tedius" means.

>Not really true for the best guns.
level scaling renders all of that moot. You always have stats and equipment sufficient for every encounter you might find in the game.

>but weapon damage doesn't get significant upgrade.
Except loot does, which means you always have access to tools suitable for the job.

>I was just saying that level doesn't matter much in NV either.
LEVEL SCALING YOU MORON. Do you even know what that fucking means?

>DC's city design itself is more interesting than Mojave though.
Dude, no. Just no. There is nothing there. It's a linear corridor between several shooting arenas and one pathetic fucking hub with six rooms and ONE QUEST.
There is NOTHING interesting there. It's rubble. Tintent fucking green for some reason. There is nothing to explore. Landmarks that are just a shooting gallery background for fuck sake.

>so both games failed at making a good town.
That is some of the worst goal-post moving I've ever seen.

>Besides, FO3 shows the hopeless side of the world
HOPELESS?! HOW? The characters are all cheerful fucking cartoons, there is no fucking strife or struggle anywhere, everybody is just fucking chill. The characters and the locations do not actually reflect the environment at all.

Also: since the landscape is so fucking awful and does not look like a real place, any sense of dread is gone. It's not DC, it does not look like any place in the world. There is mimesis what so ever. No problems either. Food is not a problem, water is not a problem, defense is not a problem, power is not a problem: nothing.

What the fuck is "hopeless" here?

>I remember Moira's and Burke's quests lasting very long
Literally the only two multi-staged non-main quests in the game, last still half of what each of the Casino quests in NV last. And are stupid. And have only one solution.

>>378234869
You people are mentally ill.

>>378226159
Fuck off then i dont even like most of these games but i have played all of them

>>378235559
>I don't think you know what the word "tedius" means.
Long, slow, dull, tiresome, monotonous corridors? I swear NV's vaults last too for long and are duller.

>level scaling renders all of that moot.
I don't even recognize enemies having levels in FO3.

>Except loot does
LIke NV?

>LEVEL SCALING YOU MORON. Do you even know what that fucking means?
I understand. But again, enemies in either game feel just static to me. I don't really feel the level in them.

>There is nothing there.
As opposed to Mojave?

>It's a linear corridor
Not really true.

>several shooting arenas
As opposed to shooting enemies in flat, open areas in NV?

>one pathetic fucking hub
>six rooms
>ONE QUEST
What? I mean Fallout 3's world as a whole dude. I don't get the place you're referring to.

>Landmarks that are just a shooting gallery background for fuck sake.
Like every FPS game with backdrops ever?

>That is some of the worst goal-post moving I've ever seen.
Maybe, maybe.

>The characters are all cheerful fucking cartoons, there is no fucking strife or struggle anywhere, everybody is just fucking chill.
Not enough melodrama for you? Do you expect Indian pajeets to cry all day because their hometown is full of shit?

>still half of what each of the Casino quests in NV last
They were boring and gave you no incentive to explore.

>And have only one solution.
The problem is?

>>378225564
Even as an avid Halo fan, I find it difficult as shit to believe that anyone really praised Halo 5 as being the 'best' in the series. Maybe best Multiplayer, maybe, but definitely not story wise.

>>378225564
>DS2
>vocal minority
>literally the highest rated Dark Souls game
>"""vocal minority"""

>>378237256
>Long, slow, dull, tiresome, monotonous corridors?
If that is "long slow corridor" to you, then there is something PROFOUNDLY wrong with your attention span. But I am starting to understand where the problem is. You can get bored before you walk down a hallway and completely lose track of where you are and why are you there in the process. That explains why Fo3, game specifically and intentionally designed with mentally challenged and ADD victims in mind is appealing to you.

>I don't even recognize enemies having levels in FO3.
And here is our confirmation.
WHAT?!

>LIke NV?
No? Like - literally: No.

>As opposed to Mojave?
Yes. Look: this is like you saying Dostojevski's characters are fucking awful and one dimensional, now Meyer: that is a masterclass of character writing and psychology.
And then when I explained how Bella from Twilight lacks any depth, you'd answer: "As opposed to Raskolnikov?"
THE ANSWER IS YES. Unquestionably, undeniably, objectively YES. There is more to see, more to do, more that has meaning, value, and effort put into it Mojave than in Fo3.

You like Fo3 PRECISELY because it's badly designed.

>As opposed to shooting enemies in flat, open areas in NV?
Or mountains, crevices, large cities, crops and fields, airfields, city ruins... there are more environments in NV than in Fo3. OBJECTIVELY. More, more varied, more detailed.
Also, unlike Fo3, you can solve things in other ways than shooting in NV.

>Like every FPS game with backdrops ever?
You see: We are talking about Fallout. I understand that in the end, Fo3 is essentially a really bad shooter, but NV is not. And it's also not supposed to be one.

>Do you expect Indian pajeets to cry all day because their hometown is full of shit?
>They were boring and gave you no incentive to explore.
And now we have reached just a full on retard territory.

>The problem is?
That it is an RPG yet your character and choices don't come into play? YOU GOD DAMN CRETIN?!

>>378238026
>highest rated
Since when
>vocal minority
The only people who think it's the best are called apologists for a reason.

>>378228748
This. What the fuck is wrong with OP when Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel exist.

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>>378233435

>>378225564
It's in a .jpg posted on 4chan so it must be true. Thanks for posting, anon. Have a (you)

>>378225564
This list is mostly wrong.

Worst:
DS1
FO3
GTA3
Correct
Halo 4

Best:
Bloodborne
Fallout New Vegas
GTAV
Bioshock 2
Halo 3

Anyone who thinks otherwise has shit taste in videogames.

>>378230178
>this post
There are few crime spoofs / dramas, especially about the 70s, 90s, etc.

>>378225695
>Bloodbourne
>Bloodbourne Identity
When will this shit end. It's Bloodborne you shits.

>>378225695
>And NO ONE thinks Halo 5 was good in any way.

Oh yeah, that game was a thing.

anything is better than nigger drug leader wannabe for 17 years olds

>>378226860
I could nitpick, but this is close enough to the truth.

>>378225564
I like souls pvp, and 2 has the less-shit pvp out of all three

ACE COMBAT ZERO

>DaS2
>The most non-linear, build-free, comfy, innovative and fun Souls
>Worst

Nah

>Halo 5
>Bioshock Infinite
OP, all Bioshock games and Halo games are equally trash.

>>378225564
Nice try, Todd. It was a good touch adding those other games this time though.

>>378233487
2>1>NV>4>3

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>>378243681
>>378239362

>>378243404
>halo
>bioshock
>trash
Sorry you don't like to have fun anon.

>>378226159
This.

>>378227760
seriously can someone remnd me why it's considered bad ? I love that game and play it every now and then and honestly don't remember what the negativiti is about

>>378232467
>>378232467
Spot the person who replies to the same post twice.

>>378225564
>New Vegas
Brotherhood of Steel exists.
>GTA IV
GTA 1 exists.

The rest are correct.

>>378232825
>This is why everybody on /v/ laughs at NVfags.
/v/ laughs at themselves?

>>378232534
Informative.

>>378225617
This

>>378225564
I'm honestly sick of talking about New Vegas here. Everyone who hates it and defends 3/4 are always fucking retarded and the threads always just dissolves into butthurt on both sides.

>>378247225
Let me give you a quick rundown.

>gameplay before release showed a much more in depth combat system, and a more open level structure
>Enemies like the Mechanical Patriot, boys of silence and the Siren were actually going to be used more than once and in actual meaningful ways
>the story seemed a lot better and more in tune with the first bioshock, but that was all changed for the "muh multiverse" crap.
>weapons and plasmids/vigors were limited to 2 at a time
>game is far more linear and set piecey
>world and story are just inferior to what they appeared to be

Go look up "The bioshock infinite we never got" and watch the video to see all this yourself.

>>378225564
NV is good between the shitty Fallout games
But Daggerfall will always be the superior

>>378247590
>is sick and tired of the division
>"these people with this opinion are retarded!"
>"the other side isn't though!"

WEWLAD

>>378225695
H5 and H2 were the best Halo games. Your opinion is shit

>>378248002
Maybe that's because one side is retarded and it's the retardation he's tired of.

>>378226860
GTA SA>III>VC=EFLC>IV=V
New Vegas>1>2>>>3>4

>>378248075
>implying the Obsidiots aren't retarded
Literally memeing redditor tier faggots who obsess over a shitty, buggy game

>>378248002
You're right in a way; a lot of people fighting against 3/4fags are retarded but their arguments usually make sense. The retardation comes from the fact that they argue the same shit over and over again and eventually fuck up their own points because they're getting too buttmad. It's becoming a real Reddit thing to hate 3/4 now because of Hbomberfaggot.
>>378248075
A little bit of both desu.

>>378248234
I agree with your post if you confirm that the "shitty, buggy game" is 3/4. Stop obsessing over these garbage games that nobody with a modicum of tastes will defend.

>>378248426
New Vegas is literally fallout 3 with more dialogue, more bugs, less buildings and more brown. Get over it.

>>378225564
New Vegas is miles better than 3 or 4. Dark Souls 2 was a different kind of game from DS1 or 3 but it was really good.

>>378248753
>it was really good.
lel

>>378227808
343 cock suckers are in no position to call anyone underage, Halo 2 is complete trash compared to 3, hang yourself.

>>378225564
im going to make a nv thread just to spite you

>>378227624
>>378227808
3 had the best multiplayer and weapons.

>>378225564
More like:

Demon Souls
Fallout 3
GTA 3
Bioshock 2
Halo 4

>>378247590
The reason why this issue is so polarizing, and people get caught in the discussion is because it's one of the very rare cases where one side is so blatantly wrong that it's almost impossible to let it slide. Most cases where you have a division of opinions can ultimately boil down to just matters of personal taste, or the problem isn't this one-sided. In many other games, and in most other media: ultimately some application of common sense resolves it, in the end there is some kind of standard for the fundamental stuff, and the non-fundamental stuff is eventually too trivial for the discussion to get really out of hand.

Fo3 vs. New Vegas is not that case. It's something that should not even happen: it's not something that people should ever really disagree on.

That is what makes it so absurd, so infuriating, so hard to let go.

Vice City is the worst.
Nostalgia prevents you from seeing it.

>>378249153
also, 3 has 2 SCARABS

>>378248073
Halo 2 was alright. The only game Halo 5 tops is the Spartan Assault spinoffs and 4.

>>378249348
>The reason why this issue is so polarizing, and people get caught in the discussion is because it's one of the very rare cases where one side is so blatantly wrong that it's almost impossible to let it slide.
Stopped reading there, you're not objectively right when it comes to opinions. Your arrogance and fanboyism blind you.

>>378249670
Multiplayer
H2>H5>H1>H3>Reach>H4
Singleplayer
H1>H3>Reach>H2
Didn't play H4 or H5 singleplayer much

I playef H5 much less than 3 but it does have objectively better multiplayer

>>378225564
I liked GTA 4 and DS 2 was okay, not the best but decent, I can't speak for the rest (I played 5 min of NV and found it boring but I want to give it another chance so I won't speak for it)

>>378249670
This
Halo 5 is complete trash.

>new vegas worst than 3 and 4
>a popular opinion

Pick one delusional fgt.

>>378248585
What a hot opinion.

>>378249759
>you're not objectively right when it comes to opinions.
You are never objectively right on any evaluation, but that does not mean that you have an overwhelming evidence and general consensus on your side. According to your logic, it would be completely impossible to make criticism, pit judgements against each other: and create such things as standards.

But these standards actually exist. And should be maintained. Justifications and arguments matter, even if it's not an objective problem: objective problems are actually like 1% of all the things we NEED to actually discuss and resolve.

There is no fanboism, actually. The only Fallout game I have any kind of actual stronger personal feeling towards is Fallout 2: and I can very easily distinguish between what is personal emotional attachement and bias and what is not.

This is again a matter of standards that need to be agreed upon. Shit that actually every other medium has sorted out too. This kind of discussion could actually never even happen in say, books or literature: it would be resolved in a matter of SECONDS because sane people with basic understanding of the medium can identify some core systems and values that are nearly universal.

You can and SHOULD say that Twilight is a shit book. That Transformers or the new Ninja Turtles or Ghost Rider 2 are bad movies.
Yet somehow, the same most BASIC set of standards seems to dissipate when it comes to games.
And cowardly morons like you are problably the main reason.

>>378250187
>worst than
Learn proper english faggot.

GTA IV was the best GTA game ever made, and will continue to be the best GTA until they go back to New York. Then the next New York GTA game will be the best GTA game ever.

My guess is stupid rockstar are gonna set the next GTA in Las Vegas.

>>378250310
It's not an opinion, it's a fact. New Vegas was 95% reused assets from 3, except Obsidian couldn't figure out how to properly work the engine or something, so there were more reported bugs and crappier textures as a result.

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>>378226860
>Bioshock 1 = 2

>>378249348
Fuck off.

Both games have their merits.

>>378250329
Who the fuck is going to read your wall of text when all you're trying to say is
>I'm right, you're wrong because me and these guys said so"

>>378250546
Nah, it's an opinion, Anon.

I still can't believe people praise DaS2 as the best in the series and shit on DaS 3. /v/ is full of dumb fucking contrarians.

>>378225564
>Dark souls 2
Just shitposters
>>378225617
>Mgsv
Again, shitposters

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>>378226860
>1 = 2
>Vice City > San Andreas

Other than that I agree

>>378250546
>It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
It's actually factually wrong. There are more buildings in New Vegas. Also, you "fact" fails to take into account the quality of the quests, writing, or seemingly small but actually far-reaching mechanic changes, like the aformentioned removal of level scaling. Like this shit drastically alters the game, even if it's not immediately obvious.
Just because YOU don't see the differences does not mean they are not there.

>>378250757
Not sure if you know what that word means

>>378250667
That is not even remotely what that post says. You are insecure, and that is what you project into that post. But my point is that it's standards and arguments that matter, not individual opinions.

You are so dumb, so insecure that you literally cannot even BEGIN comprehending the idea of this not being about individual people at all. You cannot comprehend that it's not me that matters, but not you that matters.
It's our ability to create reasonable standards with relatively universal weight and relevance. Actually, those standards largely already exist, whenever you or I like it: it's only a matter of understanding them and maintaining them.

>this bullshit actually got replies
Holy hell, fucking nighttime /v/...

>>378225564
>vocal minority
explain why the user reviews for new vegas are vastly better

>>378250945
Not all of those changes were positive.

The lack of level scaling for example leads to the locations of enemies in the overworked being static, which makes exploration a lot more predictable and less interesting. People overstate the degree to which level scaling existed in 3. Enemies only scaled to your level in the overworld, while they remained consistent in dungeons and key locations. This made exploration more interesting as you never knew what you where going to encounter and also created the illusion of dynamic territories.

Also, regarding quests. 80% of quests in NV were brief and boring fetch quests with quests like Beyond The Beef being exceptions to the rule. Compare that to Fallout 3 where quests are longer, more complex in design and offer just as many options (if not more) than the average NV quest. Every quest in FO3 can be done without bloodshed, afterall.

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>>378251232
>user reviews

>>378251635
>Not all of those changes were positive.
The key ones were. Really, NV does just about everything better safe for perhaps soundtrack.

>which makes exploration a lot more predictable and less interesting.
Uh: on the contrary. Because no exploration bears risk and reward. It's possible to stumble on something you are not read for. But it's also possible to find something really rewarding because it's not tailored to your level, it's tailored to the level of the enemies that protect it.

If you have level scaling, you'll find enemies not based on where you go, but based on what level you are. And you find rewards based on that level too.
How is that not more predictable. It nivelizes the exploration: it removes the threat, the feeling of curiosity when you suddenly come across something completely outmatching you, wondering what kind of reward will be there.

It creates tension, punishes lack of caution, and rewards you if you find a way to get over something above your level by creativity. It makes you laugh when you come back to place with weak enemies, reminds you how far did you get.

>while they remained consistent in dungeons and key locations.
Actually they scaled in most dungeons. Only the few that were related to key quests were not scaled: like the robots protecting the declaration of independence.
It scaled loot too, and more importantly, there was very little actual equipment progression in the game. 99% of the weapons in the game were all same level trash that you could find everywhere (and had to find everywhere otherwise you'd run out of spare parts).

>with quests like Beyond The Beef being exceptions to the rule.
There was about fifteen to twenty quests like that in the game. There was also additional 30 fairly simple ones. But even THOSE were on average better than your longer quests in Fo3.
THERE WERE NO GOOD QUESTS IN FO3. None. Even main story quests were shorter and shallower than sidequests in NV.

>>378228331
It's easy to decipher.

He is pointing out fall out brotherhopod of steel is the worst fallout game (it is) and is calling fallout 3 generic and bad, however, it is not as bad as brotherhood of steel

>>378251009
Nah, that's also an opinion.

>>378251635
>Every quest in FO3 can be done without bloodshed, afterall.
Like 95% of New Vegas' can be as well. Not to mention the fact that there are a lot more quests in New Vegas anyway.

>>378232534
hate to break it to you but 3 is hot garbage

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>>378225695
Halo 5 multiplayer and forge is the best in the series

>>378250585
Yet one is objectively better. Everybody who tries to convince others that 3 is better is just blatantly lying.

>>378226159
this

>>378225564
>>378225617
>>378225695
[Your favorite Game]

What now fags?

>>378227246
kekerino tarantino

>>378232825
>This is why everybody on /v/ laughs at NVfags.
3/4 of /v/ loves FNV

>>378251635
>Every quest in FO3 can be done without bloodshed, afterall.
I mean with some exploiting and battling the terrible system that was never DESIGNED to be solve non-violently, I guess. But it's New Vegas that offers multiple ways to solve quests, Fo3 is ultimately "shoot everything" absolute majority of the time. It's all fucking fetchquests from dungeons with monsters.

What the fuck are you on about. New Vegas is the one where your choices and character stats actually matter and are accounted for in the quest design. Did you get the two confused?

>>378253805
The remaining 1/4 need to get gassed

>>378250585
>Both games have their merits.
One is a bad, lazy game with that can still be enjoyed because it's designed to appeal to some really stupid side of humans.
The other is a pretty thoughtful and carefully designed game with a lot to explore, with interesting choices, a world worth exploring.

Yeah: technically speaking each have some merits, but one is agressively relying on stupidity and lazy methods to just mindlessly entertain, while the other tries to be a lot more than that.

So yeah: While they both have some merits, merits of one are far, far greater than those of the other.

>>378227624
You're a fucking moron.

>>378254140
*your

>>378253185
Pick ups in containers were influenced by RNG more than level and items that were lying around outside of containers were always consistent.

On top of that, places like Old Olney and pretty much every place involving raiders weren't scaled at all and most of those aren't even tied to quests.

I also forgot to mention that 3 had better dungeon design overall. That sense of satisfaction you mentioned NV having is lessened when pretty much all of the dungeons in NV are no bigger than four rooms. Compare Springvale Elementary to the Bison in Primm- It's night and day.

>THERE WERE NO GOOD QUESTS IN FALLOUT 3
You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head, Tranqulity Lane, Agatha's Song and also unmarked quests like the Kelly family bunker where all great.

>>378253298
Nah, fact bro.

>>378253887
aside from The Waters of Life (which is awful and requires cheesing) there aren't any quests in 3 that attempt to force you to kill anyone, even quests where you're hired to kill someone can be solved through non-violent means. Only about 3 quests in the game amount to "fetch this item for me" as well. Compare that to NV where something like Cold,Cold Heart (which amounts to go to point B and talk to someone) actually counts as a quest.

>>378254403
>Pick ups in containers were influenced by RNG more than level and items that were lying around outside of containers were always consistent.
Yes, but the quipment of your enemies, which where you'll get 99% of what matters to you because is the shit you use for problem-solvign (that is killing things) scales. The whole issue is arguably mudded by the lack of proper item distribution: virtually all weapons in the game are accesible from the start, and you have to stick with them till near end because those are the ones enemies are dopping and you need to repair. Same goes for armor too.

>On top of that, places like Old Olney and pretty much every place involving raiders weren't scaled at all and most of those aren't even tied to quests.
Raders scaled like crazy, actually. Thankfully they learned from oblivion to scale their armor, but the quality of their weapons and their stats scaled precisely.

>That sense of satisfaction you mentioned NV having is lessened when pretty much all of the dungeons in NV
Those were not really dungeons, those were places of interest. I'll give you Primm, that was a bad location. But then consider the Robco facilities, The Rocket Launch Site, the fucking Vaults, Entirety of Black Mountain, Vegas severs. Great Khan Supply Cave, Morning star cavern, Crescent Cannon, Coyote Mines... NV had one four-room dungeon for every one blood two room shack that Fo3 and and it useually had some good envionemtal storytelling there,

And all of that on top of te fact that it also had a major city with fiftee or more major multiphased quests with muliple options, the god-damn Vaults, and because the weapon reward system was not retarded, there was always something challenging, and somewhting worth finding there.

Fo3 failed in comparison It had dungens, NV made locations that made sense to be there.

>>378254403
You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head,
That is the Tennpeny quest with the ghoul who want revenge and in, right? That was legendarily bad. Bad characters, bad motivations, bad binary decisions, a conclusion that would not be completely bad if the game did not do it's retarded moral binarity shit make it feel like either it was written by someobody who had no idea 3-Dog exists, or some who did not understand the importance of a concept of consistency.

Tranquility line: typical obvlivion style BULLSHIT when they throw gimmicky change of environment and shocking set pieces, but make it all so cheap and predicatable and make you actually play a zero role in it... it's a quest designed specifically for people who enjoy CoD-style scripted sequences and no actual gameplay. Agata is a straigh up fetch quest with an altenrative "sell the thing to somebody else" option at the end.
It's as basic and boring as it goes. Though I will admit it's the only quest where you get a reasonable explanation of why they are asking you.
Which does however raise the question of why they are still keeping her around.

>>378225749
i disagree

noko.

>>378225564
>no majora's mask or windwaker in this picture

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>>378228748
>>378238820
>shitting on Tactics

To think I share this board with subhumans..

>>378259346
Desu I don't like tactics but it's far from the worst when BoS exists

>>378226848
If you only played none of the others in the series.

>>378225695
I will defend Halo 5's MP to my grave.

>>378225564
>Halo 5
>worse than Halo 4

I'll never understand this meme

>>378225695
Fallout 3 is at-least a rpg Fallout 4 at it's best is a decent shooter