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>pirating indie games

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>pirating indie games
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>>378215572
I pirate them because they are all garbage and should be treated as such.
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>>378215629
>playing garbage
???
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>>378215572
>supporting indie devs
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TeamGaki was a mistake.
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>>378215572
Why should one care if the game is indie or not? Wether it is AAA or indie, if it's good it deserves to be bought if it's bad it deserves jack shit
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wish i could find caves of qud
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Part 9 and 10 when. Saving myself for this shit is hard.
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>game has a school setting
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>>378215928
pls donate more money to us and don't forget to join our discord channel and we'll see about part 9 and 10 :)
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>>378215879
You realized this only now ? This has a quite good subbing scene until those hacks started subbing.

>>378215954
>game has a fantasy setting
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>>378215879
>it's been more than 10 days since part 9 has entered the "Checking English quality" phase
Just end it all, lads. TeamGaki is shit. Normalfags were a mistake.
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>>378215879
I mean, when Zurui was subbing, he was done in 3 months max. ALONE !!!

But yeah, they are scum. Stealing others vids and putting them on normietube.
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OP forgets that maybe 1 in 50 Indie Games are actually worth what they are charging.
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>>378216156
>Zurui
I am now reminded Ashita ga Arusa was never finished with like 3 episodes left and I am pissed again.
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>>378216273
Episode 9 was subbed almost a month ago. Dunno if they'll do the last 2 episodes though.

https://mega.nz/#!A9MxxZ4Q!ywitZOnn4y1B9LEY6ZIetHWjQtVideGjHTWxxMcj848
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>>378216398
Oh damn you're giving me hope anon, thanks.
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>>378215954
He was super handsome when he first started out on Gaki too
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>>378216546
Proof that physical and mental abuse makes you uglu.

>>378215572
I pirated Hollow Knight and i feel kinda bad because the game is legit fun. I'll buy it but won't play it again.
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>>378215879
I might just watch the 8 subbed parts today. It's not the first time they're taking this long, but I'm just sick of waiting all the time. Their excuse for part 7 was pathetic as well.
>Takes more than a month to sub one fucking part
>"W-w-we had some problems translating some sections and that's why it took so long"
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>>378216684
More like aging and HD cameras make you ugly
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Buy good games from good developers.
Pirate good games from shit developers.
Pirate shit games from shit developers.
Pirate shit games from good developers.

It's not hard to fucking grasp.
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>>378216546
>was

>>378216716

Jesus christ, it´s not a hard japanese, give me a minute from raw file, i will translate it for you.
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>>378217013
Please sub 9 and 10. I will do nothing but shower you with praise.
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>>378217115
I doubt he will, but I don't doubt him that he could do it much faster than TeamShit. I wonder how they and their fans would react though.
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>>378217115
Lol, fuck that, i am not typesetting and timing. Just give me a some dialogue if you don´t understand and really want to know what they are saying.
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https://vaughnlive.tv/ducktoaster

24/7 live stream of subbed Gaki episodes for those who still didn't know about it
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>taking nearly 6 fucking months to sub 5 hours of footage
What the fuck are they doing?
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>>378217345
Wish, there was everything. Over years, a good amount of subbed videos was lost.
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>>378217408
We have lives anon :^) They're busy jerking off in their discord and getting praise.
As soon as they're done with the batsu game everyone'll just forget them like always until New Years again. No more donations as well.
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>>378217584
Well, that´s their fault for not subbing anything else. Regular episodes are honestly more funny than new year special.
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>>378217292
>typesetting and timing
what are these?
t. uneducated
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>>378217802
In laymans, it's setting up the subtitles and shit.
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>>378217740
I doubt they would be arsed to do it. Just look at how much time they take to sub the Batsu games. Some of them are volunteers as well, so as soon as they're done with the Batsu they'll leave.

TofuPandaSubs for example have a page on their website where you can see the status of episodes they're currently working on. Some of the episodes have had the same status for more than a year, maybe even 2 as I remember checking their page in 2015 and it barely changed. They do release a new episode every now and then, but they keep dropping and picking up new episodes without finishing the ones they promised to do first.
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>>378215572
>buying pretentious shit
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>>378217740
>>378217740
You can't also forget that most Gaki viewers don't even know or care about regular episodes. You can see the same thing on /v/. The majority only watch Batsu games and that's that. So TeamGaki gets more attention during that time as well.
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>>378215572
Yeah I do. I believe it's unfair to discriminate with types of games. A true pirate will pirate regardless of AAA or indie status.
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>>378215572
Yes? I'm not paying 15+ dollars for something that looks like trash and is short as fuck. Indie games that are 2D without an extensive campaign or beautiful sprites should be priced at no higher than 10 dollars, and even that is the steep end.

Don't know how we go from pricing indie trash at 5/10 dollars to 15/20 dollars now.
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>>378218040
>>378218260

To be fair 2017 so far is kinda shit. I don´t fucking understand why they have decided to change opening after 25 years. 2015 was the peak i think. Seriously, there is many funny episodes, i honestly laugh more watching them than new year special. If timing wasn´t such a bother i would have already began translating.
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>>378215879
I ended up becoming a mod on their discord even though I've never talked on there
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>>378215572
>thinly veiled gaki thread.jpg
It's not "thinly veiled" if you put it like that.
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>>378215879
>we lost shibatabread for this
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>>378218707
Did they do manzai as a one-time thing when they changed their set or are they planning on getting back into it? I remember them saying something like that if they ever do manzai again it'll be just before they retire as it'll be the last thing they do.
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>>378219814
That´s not really manzai what they are doing on gakim free talk more like. I think it was just one time thing and now they just use different cuts from it when episode is too short.
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>>378219231
Shibatabread lost interest.
>>378215879
LOL. One 24 hour batsu almost took a year. 6 months subbing for TeamGaki is normal. There's only one year where they were incredibly fast.
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>>378219814
They are doing it again this year. Gaki is back to pre-2005 levels. Free talk is back, skits are shorter. It's sad no one's subbing new ones.
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This might be a good thread to ask, since I will not go anywhere near /jp/

What's the situation with GameCenter CX? What's the latest game Arino did? Is the series still going? I kinda dropped it due to laziness.
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>>378220450
>What's the situation with GameCenter CX? What's the latest game Arino did? Is the series still going? I kinda dropped it due to laziness.
Still ongoing. Subbing stalled anyway. 2 new ones in almost 3 years?
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>>378220450
Go ask /vr/ if you want the deets and possible drama.
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Anyway do you guys watch other stuff with or Downtown ? Gobugobu is super comfy, they usually just take strolls around japanese towns. Wish Higashino was still in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IwiEMT56VA&list=PLxY4LCiBdtlHAHec4oZTGRKMTvhZKpYbc&index=26&t=19s
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>>378220283
>Gaki is back to pre-2005
But someone give them shit idea to interview a faggot and it lasted for 2 episodes.
2 FUCKING EPISODES OF A BORING FAGGOT.
Bring back Suga, bring back Heipo, this new staffs are killing gaki.
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>complaining about subs
Either pay someone to do it or do it yourself. You don't complain about a free, time consuming service.
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>>378220683
>Suga
He is still there. He is still working on Gaki even after he retired. I just don't know why he "retired". Is it legality?
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>>378220683
Need to watch the end of this one again
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>>378220756
>t. TeamGaki
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>>378220909
No, but I did work on an open source project for awhile and the entitlement some people have over FREE stuff that I do for fun is embarrassing and infuriating.
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>>378220873
He's too old now. Matsumoto and Hamada turned 55 this year. Though Matsumoto is ripped as fuck now, Hamada on the other hand is still smoking iirc.
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>>378221042
Shut up and get back to work.
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>>378221081
Whan I first saw Matsumotos dyed blond hair, I thought it was pretty sad midlife crisis thing.
Guess he is doing well.
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>pirating Denuvo-protected games
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>>378221081
Matsumoto is steadily losing his muscles, 3-4 ago can´t be compared to now. Anyway, i wouldn´t really bother with age and stuff. Look at Tamori-san, 70y old and still in it.
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>>378221042
Multiple people had done it faster than TeamGaki with no donations. They could just admit they're lazy or can't be arsed to sub, but they keep making excuses like >>378216716
You can't defend them.
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>>378221090
Enjoy whining for subs forever.
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>>378221252
>midlife crisis thing

Stop creating bullshit, it was because of Takeshi.
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>>378221042
Just because it's free doesn't mean it's exempt from criticism, but if people are complaining about release dates and shit like that then as long as they aren't too ridiculous you don't have much of a right to complain.
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>>378221323
>Steadily
He still fit as fuck though.
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>>378221596
Criticism isn't the same as "WTF Y AREN'T U FINISHED WITH SUBS IN 24HRS????"
Actually whining about release time for anything free is extreme entitlement. You can criticise quality or make suggestions but essentially saying "why isn't this your full-time job?" is unacceptable.
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>>378220873
I have loved how they dealt with it. First release it into news and then this. I am still fucking mad they cancelled Sayonara Yamazaki series. All the way from 2001 every year and they just cancel it ,

https://youtu.be/UcCRF1164KQ?t=18m42s
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>>378221845
>Criticism isn't the same as "WTF Y AREN'T U FINISHED WITH SUBS IN 24HRS????"
Except no one's saying that. Taking half a year or longer is pathetic though, but keep on shilling for them.
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>>378215572
Yamazaki is the scrub of the group. Barely has any shows and his "rakugo" is a niche and even though people say he is good, he is not the top tier for that niche.
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>>378221980
You could learn enough Japanese to translate the episode yourself in half a year. If you want it out right now, go do it yourself. Otherwise you have no choice but to wait. By all means go ahead and keep complaining to them. If they're like I was they're going to intentionally release things later just to spite entitled children.
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>>378222428
>get donations to sub things quick
>don't sub things quick
>"WTF SO ENTITLED"

Kill yourself.
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>>378215879
>been patiently waiting for the subs
>had a lot of shit going on in my life including major surgery and recovery
>just realized it's been 6 months

holy fuck it should have been done 4 months ago
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>>378222428
>Being this butthurt
I bet you also cry about pirates. End your life.
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>>378222108
And he's still better than Cocorico.
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>>378222608
Donations aren't payment. Pay my salary if you want me to do whatever it is on your timescale.
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>>378222781
>Develop FOSS
>I bet you cry about piracy
I laughed.
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>>378222608
>>378222781
stop giving him (You)s
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>>378222108
>>378222790

You guys are really retarded aren´t you ?
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>>378222795
Yes but I imagine next year some more organized fans will do the batsu much quicker and these guys won't get any donations at all.
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>>378222929
They're doing it for free. Why would they care if another group started doing it too?
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>>378221845
I didn't say it was, just that people seem to think that something being free means it can't be critiscized
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>>378222790
More shows, endo can sing, tanaka has a lot of shows besides dramas and more. Yamazaki is known in japan as an idiot.
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>>378223029
Because "doing it for free" involves hundreds of dollars of donations.
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>>378223029
>donations
>free
I'm guessing someone linked this thread on their discord since you're going full out and defending them for free.
>b-b-but
Nah, m8. Last reply from me. Keep on sucking their cocks.
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>>378223159
Donations aren't payment regardless of how much you give. If you want it done right now go message a sub group and ask what the daily pay would be for them to do it. You likely won't be able to afford it. Fansubbing isn't a job.
>>378223202
I don't even know what sub group we're talking about. I'm saying that in general people need to stop being so entitled over free shit.
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>>378215697
underrated post
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>>378223471
>Donations aren't payment
tell that to twitch streamers
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>>378223823
Completely unrelated.
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>>378215572

Ok, man. I'm a piratefag because I love it. Now, if the game is really good I find the way to pay it, but steam sucks, also paying for ROMS.
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>>378223471
How the fuck are donations not payment? The fuck?

Fans give their money in order for fansub groups to produce their work faster. How is that not payment?
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>>378223471
>Admits to not knowing what the fuck he's talking about
>Doesn't know their antics and what they do besides subbing
Really made me think. You're either literally a shill like others said or a retard who's defending someone blindly without knowing anything about them, so basically like most of /v/. You just shitpost for the sake of shitposting and getting attention.
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>>378224132
Unless the group is explicitly donation begging like that, you're wrong. Donations are almost always given with no expectations. If you don't find that acceptable then simply don't donate.
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>>378223471
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>>378215629

You want to play them so they're not garbage. You're just an unscrupulous asshole.
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>>378224201
But it's used to improve their work process. Just because they don't ask for it doesn't mean it's not payment.
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>>378224180
>>378224209
Enjoy crying for subs for 2 more years. Lol.
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>>378224245
He'sa retard
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>>378224180
And he's still going. Replying to others like he knows everything about them. kek
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>>378224245
>Improve their work process
Or pay for server costs or their coffee or anything else. You don't "donate" with the expectation that they'll start working harder for you. If that's what you want you can pay their salaries or a commission fee.
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>>378224258
>No arguments
Cool.
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>>378224258
>anon calls you out on your bullshit
>l-lol
hmmm
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>>378224362
>>378224367
Top kek! Keep crying for subs that you totally paid for through donations!
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>>378215629
Towerclimb is not garbage tho
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>>378224343
They should be using it to improve their work process, though, you fucking idiot. If they use it to pay for coffee then they're a shitty group. Doesn't that kinda disprove your point as it would make the people giving money to them have a reason to dislike them?
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>>378224415
I didn't say anything about donations. You said so yourself, that you don't even know what you're talking about. Yet you keep replying to others like you know everything about them. What's in it for (you)?
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I give up. Arguing against shitposters is retarded
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>>378224526
If they're taking your donations with a promise of doing X it is no longer a donation. It's a commission. No sub group does this.
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>>378215882
AAA can afford piracy, whereas indies can't.

Same reason why you don't life merchandise from mom and pops, when there's a walmart around the corner
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>>378224597
But then it's payment then, isn't it? They're basically just giving them a salary if they can spend it on whatever they want.
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>>378224734
It's just a donation. Go and fuck yourself! They're doing it for free and for the fans.
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>>378224734
No, a salary would imply they have some obligations to do something. A donation is given with no expectation on its use.
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>>378224875
What? If that's what a donation is then it IS payment. Whoever the fuck I replied to that said otherwise is wrong.
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I pirated a game called zissi's island last night because the concept of an entirely open world 3d platformer intrigues me

I turned out to be unplayable trash but hey at least I didn't pay money for it
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>not even Gaki threads are safe from shitposting
Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>378224942
>Commission: one time payment for a specific piece like a single episode or doujin
>Salary: continued payment for continued works with certain expectations, like timely releases
>Donation: gift/token of appreciation with no expectations or implied obligations
Get it now?
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>>378225194
You should become a PR for some company. Many gullible retards would fall for this kind of shit.
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>>378225194
But a donation is effectively used to pay for something, right? You can't just keep the money forever. It at least has to be spent.

It's payment for whatever the fuck costs the fansub group need to pay.

This argument began because someone said donations aren't payment, when they effectively are. When you donate money you expect it to be spent on something at the very least because you think that business or company or whatever are worth donating to and should spend some of your money instead of their own. You HAVE to. If you donate money for no reason and no expectation for what happens to it then what's the point? You're just an idiot.
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>>378225410
>>378225456
He speaks like a marketeer.
>It's not a payment, goy. It's just a donation, goy.
Wouldn't be surprised to find out if he actually works as a PR manager for some company.
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>>378225456
>Effectively used to pay for something
Sure, but that could be a new processor for encoding, or a giant black dildo. Either one is okay, because you're donating without expectation.
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>>378221270

Yes anon, it's easy to do.
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>>378225563
Who fucking donates to something and doesn't expect it to go towards something useful? He's a horrible PR manager if he thinks that.

I wish people gave me money with no care as to what I spent it on.
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>>378225607
But there is still an expectation and nine times out of fucking ten someone donating to fansubbers will want it to cover any (legitimate) costs the fansubbers need to spend. You can't speak for every donator in the planet.

Just because they can spend it on a dildo does not mean they will spend it on a dildo and it doesn't mean that the donator wanted them to spend it on a dildo.
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>>378225632
It's like damage control.
>People donate to kickstarter because it seems and sounds promising
>It finally comes out after several delays and it's actually shit
>Damage control starts
>"You're being entitled! You just donated the money and didn't pay for it!", etc
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>>378225632
But that's what you're doing when you donate. You're saying "Here's $5 for producing something I liked. Thanks."
If you meant to say "here's $20 for subbing episode X" that is no longer a donation.
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>>378225740
Donators don't get to "want" them to spend it on anything.
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>>378225849
>If you meant to say "here's $20 for subbing episode X" that is no longer a donation.
How? Those two examples are the same thing. If he liked episode X then surely it's the same?

What?

>>378225891
Have you ever donated anything in your life? If you have, you'd know that you don't want what ever organization you're donating to to spend it on a dildo or whatever. How don't they get that right?
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>>378225194
But you can donate with stipulations. They're considered limited funds or some shit in the us.
"I will donate $1,000,000 to your organization, but only if it is used to do x"
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>>378226654
Isn't that an investment, which is basically the corporate version of a donation?
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>>378226838
>>378226654
Yes that is an investment.
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>>378226838
Nah because they aren't paying for a service for themself nor are they obtaining a share of the organization. There's no return for the donor
Donations like these are made only to nonprofits though, so they really have fuckall to do with ecelebs
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ITT: Semantics

Anyway I pirate everything that interest me unless I'm 99% sure it's what I want from information I've seen before hand. Nearly all the games I pirate I end up buying anyway because I'm not going to pirate shit I don't care about, which also means I don't buy it, and because I have no experience with those games I ignore them instead of shitposting about them all day.

Also if I really like something (whether it be a game a platform or developer) I end up buying multiple copies of that thing, to gift to friends and family and shit. Even ports if they're good. This mostly applies to niche stuff, not even just video games either.
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Just seems odd that TK took forever to get part 7 out giving next to no hints other than the episode was proving more difficult to trans than anticipated, but ya finally watch it and see nothing in there that didn't look like something they couldn't handle. It's just odd compared to last year when they had it done by late march. Someone gave them $100 the other day.
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>>378228589
>Someone gave them $100 the other day
And there's your answer on why they're taking so long
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>>378229572
That's all they care about. The paper, the money, themselves.
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>>378229572
It's a double edged sword
>Donate to them and they'll drag it out longer for more cash
>Don't donate and they will half ass it and take longer because "their efforts are not appreciated enough"

Nobody wins.
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>>378228589
TG a shit
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I don't even care for part 10, they should just finish 9.
The last part of the recent new years batsu games was always the worst.
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>>378231754
It's been finished for 2 weeks now. They just refuse to release it
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