>13 years later, still unsurpassed What gives

>>378214537
But it was surpassed in 1998 by Half Life.

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>>378214537
>13 years later, still cares about HL

HL3 2017 confirmed

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>>378214537
>half life 2
>2

>>378214537
This will trigger /v/ to no end.

Great taste, OP.

consoles can't handle good physic

>>378214537
What's there to surpass? The incredibly linear level design? The unskippable cutscenes? Total lack of bosses? Enemy AI that just runs and shoots towards you and nothing else?

Too bad Valve is too busy making money off Steam and its shit market to bother making a new game or even caring about TF2 or DOTA.

>>378215702
>Two Half Lives
>not just calling it Full Life

>>378214537
>unsurpassed
by being shit maybe

>>378214537
Bloodborne is the pinnacle of storytelling. I'm truly sorry for your dead, forgotten game pcbros

>>378214537
>having shit taste for 13 years

Put off those nostalgia goggles m8

>>378215904
>this is what dindus actually think

>>378215904
>pcbros
>also on Xbox, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Android

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>>378215904
DONT REMIND ME
;_;

>>378215789
>linear
Found the open world cuck

I wish they'd just confirm that HL3 has been cancelled.

It's been obvious for years that it's passed into the realm of vaporware, just confirm already so people can shut the fuck up about it. Me included.

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>>378214537
Look this HL post in 2017 soon to E3. Only Valve marketers are so precise

>Shit tier gunplay
>Unsurpassed

lol

>>378215842
its time for me to live up to my family name and face full life consequences.

>>378216071
Because only open world games are not linear right? Because FPSs never had maze-like levels with exploration instead of following a straight line for the entire game right?

I guess I found the underage cuck.

>>378216149
How is posting something almost 3 weeks before "precise"?

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>>378216319
>3 weeks

>>378215580
Who knows, but probably this year or next year.
It wasn't going to ever happen before source2 that's for sure.

Who knows it it will happen though.
It would be nice for Valve to start actually making games again...

shit level design
shit gunplay
shit AI

only thing it does well is story, graphics, and soundtrack

original half life was better

>>378214537
Retarded fans. Most overrated game of all time.

>>378215580
>>378216149
>>378216478
>>378216482
Half-Life 3 will literally NEVER come out. Stop being delusional.

>>378216732
So you can say that with certainty?
Got a source then?

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>>378216732
Hey anon, meet my friend JJ he has something to tell you this E3.

>>378216914
Gaben makes enough money selling hats and games with Steam. Literally no reason to make a game that would need to be extremely good to meet the expectations of fans that waited 40 000 years for it to come out.

>>378214537
inb4 some child pretends that a shooter released post 2004 is better than HL2 and some grandpa dismisses it because it has "too many gimmicks" compared to HL1

>>378216149
I can't believe noting ever came of this. Has it been 2 or 3 years? and where's the gman picture?

>>378217105
There is also no reason not to.
Valve has an open development structure outside Steam dev and support(who are the only structure in Valve)
If and when enough of Gabens dev playtoys decides, lets makes HL2 on Source2 now - they'll finally get about doing it.

I agree there is no impetus to make it for them, but there is no reason no to make it, Gaben is paying his dev playthings to be at work anyway.

>>378217246
VR wasn't ready anon, we needed time...

>>378217515
the fact that these leaks actually originated in /v/ made it feel so much more exciting

>>378214537
Its crap. Today abd 13 years ago

>>378214537
Boring shit. Dropped after 3 hours of boring vehicle sessions and headcrap spam. This game sucks, even call of duty is more fun than this shit. Shit sequel for a legendary game.
Also guns feels like shit, gravity gun is not fun, vehicles are shit, movement in source engine feels like shit. This game really sucks. Goddamn valve give my money back

>>378218857
If you're going to play CoD then play the first one for an accurate comparison. Most of you kids don't understand that games pre-HL2 and post HL2 are very different. HL2 was one of the first extremely modern FPS's.

>>378219278
>HL2 was one of the first extremely modern FPS's.

And what exactly do you mean by "extremely modern"? Unskippable cutscenes?

Half Life may have been revolutionary but Half Life 2 fucking wasn't. Unless you count seesaw puzzles, something nobody liked and has barely been seen since, as revolutionary.

>>378219529
It looks and plays completely modern. Has physics. You could take gameplay videos of it and show it to some clueless person and he might still think it's a relatively fresh game, that's because HL2 is still a very modern game.

halo 2 was superior to it and that released the same year.

>>378218857
>movement in source engine feels like shit

objectively false and if you agree with this guy you belong on a cross

>>378215842

But after 2 half lives, all you have is a quarter of the original amount left

>it's a "/v/ pretends an amazing game is bad to show off how contrarian they are" episode

>>378219709
I always was and always will remain impressed by HL2. That talking head of the G-Man in the promos was high tech.

What if someone kidnapped Gabe and started torturing him to get him to admit what is the state of HL3?

valve is cancer now and hl3 will be shit if it ever does come out

who cares

I agree OP, nothing came close to this experience

>>378219610

Fuck off. Nothing about it plays modern. Even for the time it felt a little dated because it was running on modified Quake engine and felt every bit as floaty as that 1996 game. Cutscenes are nothing new. Vehicles were done better in Halo, a game that came out three years earlier. And I'm not impressed that Valve licensed the Havok middleware around the same time almost everyone else was.

The only thing worth a damn in Half Life 2 was the facial animation system and nobody cares about that except when talking about the bimbos in Bloodlines.

>>378214537
Every aspect of the game has been surpassed by various titles, but no single title has surpassed every aspect of it.

There is no modern Half Life 2 equivalent.

>>378220056
Prove it then. Which game from the same year and earlier comes even close to looking as modern as HL2? Doom 3 looks outdated compared to HL2. Doom 3 is completely plastic looking where as City 17 even to this day has an impressively realistic look to it.

HL2 had the best facial animations in its day. Which game had better facial animations in 2004?

You know, I tried to go back and play Opposing Force recently after not having played it for more than 15 years and... I don't know what I ever saw in these games as a kid.

>>378220343
>Doom 3 looks outdated compared to HL2.

You are deluded. Doom 3 was a vastly superior engine to Source.

>>378220060
/v/ kids will argue against that, but the simple fact remains, whether they like it or not, is that if we were to zap back into 2004 none of their arguments would work. They can only speak now because FPS improved rapidly right after HL2 and it's very hard to see from the perspective of 2004 unless you actually were there.

>>378220486
It could afford better lighting due to the cramped up spaces, but the rendering was vastly less realistic-looking. Doom 3 characters look like plastic toy soldiers where as HL2 has crisp realistic surfaces.

>>378220769
>It could afford better lighting due to the cramped up spaces

That was a myth that Quake 4 dispelled. You don't know what you are talking about. I bet you first played Half Life 2 years after it was released and have no clue as to the state of it's contemporaries.

>>378220343
>City 17 even to this day has an impressively realistic look to it
I replayed HL2 a year earlier and C17 does not hold up well. The buildings are boxes, there's no geometry to windows or facade details, it's all an extremely obvious and flat texture. I've seen Doom maps with more convincing looking cities.

I don't hate the game, it's alright, but you're delusional.

>>378220625
Far Cry has enormous open maps as large as entire HL2 chapters, reactive AI and beautiful jungle vistas.

I miss Crytek so much.

>>378220964
Quake 4 came out later. There is no doubt whatsoever in anybody's mind who rational that Doom 3 was gimped design-wise. Doom 3 only spawns a few monster at a time.

>>378220968
>I replayed HL2 a year earlier and C17 does not hold up well.
I played it also and it looks OK from a distance. Compared to anything else released at the time, HL2 is the most impressive title technologically without a doubt.

The counter argument to this requires that you name another game more impressive than HL2.
>Far Cry
Far Cry is a one trick pony game. Nice voxel jungles, but looks shit indoors and everywhere else.

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>>378215789
>this game is not Dark Souls so it is bad.

>>378221392
>it looks OK from a distance
You aren't watching it from a distance, you're fighting on the streets, surrounded by boxy buildings with flat texture windows.

Far Cry isn't fucking voxel and you have no idea what are you talking about. Fucking fanboys.

Half-Life is better, much better AI and they got carried away in 2 with exposition scenes. The airboat section in the beginning also fucked up the pacing.

>>378221207
Quake 4 came out the next year as a console launch title lmao. Also Doom 3 is a better game in SP and MP and is open source so while valve sits on their asses fucking up mods again with retarded steampipe updates people can do whatever they want with id tech 4.

>>378221856
look I'm all for HL2 bashing but it's not a worse game than Doom fucking 3 ok

>>378215904
Nice false flag

>>378221931
It definitely is. HL2 is unplayable without SMOD.

It's shit though

>>378221856
You forget how fast the new consoles were at release. That's why FPS changed so much in 2005+. If it wasn't for Crysis, consoles would have had a very long victory parade graphics-wise.

>>378214537
>generic scifi shit
>shit gunplay
>unskippable (un)cutscenes
>linear as fuck
What gives.

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Is there a worse company? What company more inactive than Valve?

The only time they're active now is when they release some insignificant VR gimmick app or to fuck us over with more anti-consumerist shit tacked onto steam or one of their games. MAYBE they'll hand us over an update for one of their games (that 60% of the time in awful and mostly community made). Not one piece of significant news is released from Valve anymore. Even EA is fucking better now.

What the fuck is a company that large doing?

>>378219618

In just 12 words I know I hate you with every fibre of my being.


Also

>>378219709

Everything despicable about AAA and AA today can be traced back to Half-Life 2.

mods are niggers

>>378222126
Seinfeld effect.
Everything it did in its heyday was revolutionary, but everyone latched onto it and through technological advancement (due to Moore's Law, prior to its obsolescence) and its successors taking extensive direct-inspiration it now appears trite and stale.

Did you play HL2 in 2004?
Fucking revolutionary.
Play it today?
Everything it did has been done better, but those who did it better did so with improved tools, up to 14 years rumination and a cheatsheet.

>>378219681
yeah thats the joke you fucking retard

>>378222625
>Did you play HL2 in 2004?
Is 2005 alright?
>Fucking revolutionary.
Not really.

>>378222625
I played Jedi Outcast, a bit older game, but the gameplay felt so much better, the lightsaber and and force powers were done accurately, and the AI was just as advanced.

It didn't even surpass HL1 though.

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I'm okay with Valve not developing shit. Doom 2016 was pretty good, Wolfenstein TNO and Metro Last Light were enjoyable. I don't Valve are necessary for good, SP FPS games to be made today. I'm not losing any sleep over Half-Life 3 not being a thing, and the first game is one of my favorites.

It's just better to stay tuned to games that are going to happen than to wallow in misery for what is definitely not coming out.

>>378222851
The crowds watching early HL2 videos were so impressed they made noises over the most mundane things.

>>378223010
It's not just HL3 though, I'd also like Team Fortress 3 and Left for Dead 3.
But Valve is too busy making hats and knife skins. Which in fairness is retardedly profitable and they're entirely in their right to pursue easy money, but by the same token I'd like them to stop holding their IP hostage by being creatively bankrupt dickbags.

>>378223072
>the crowds on E3 made noises
wow

that said, I remember watching some HL2 video with a strider and I was like "wow that's a big spider cool"

and also the video with the blue link physics gun

too bad half of those videos' contents aren't in the game, and the striders are mind-numbingly boring to fight

>>378214537
it's not even that good anyway

>>378215789
>cutscenes
wrong

>lack of bosses
Did you even play the game?

>>378223262
Valve's IP's are nothing but 9gag memes anyway.

>>378223506
What bosses are there? The antlion guard, which you fight several times? The gunships?

I think the helicopter does count, though.

>>378223506
>being locked in an area while some faggot talks totally isn't a cutscene guys
Yes, your capability to move to next areas is castrated during dialogues.

>>378223364
>gen-Z shitter thinks his opinion is worth something
don't you have to play Overwatch or something?

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>Half-life 2
>Good
Even episode 2 was absolute shit

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>>378216478
>37821647
>3782164
>378216
>37821
>3782
>378
>37
>3

HL3 fucking confirmed!

>>378223712
HL2 is overrated but Episode 2 is underrated.

>>378223262
L4D2 was kinda rehash tier. They fixed the gameplay issues of the first, but the style is much worse, maps and survivors weren't as memorable. I get the impression Valve wouldn't really make a good third game, they were basically just improving what worked that Turtle Rock Studios made. Wasn't CS GO made by Hidden Path something something? It's pretty evident the people who wanted to develop new games at Valve, and especially big projects like HL have moved on.

>>378223792
>survivors weren't as memorable
Nick and Coach are pretty good, so is Ellis. Bill is a cliche, but finely executed, Francis is pretty one-note, Zoe is just the girl. I liked Louis being the office worker CS player kind of guy, though.

>>378223792
>They fixed the gameplay issues of the first
they capped the boomer bile distance, breaking no mercy because you can't vomit from rooftops like you're supposed to
fuk valve

>>378219529
HL1 wasn't revolutionary either. Everything it did was already done by its direct competitors of the time: Quake 2, Unreal, and Turok 2.

>>378222226
I feel like they've been investing a shitton into making VR games, but haven't been showing much progress since VR still hasn't managed to take hold in the market. I think it's going to be a LONG time before it does.

>>378224196
>Everything it did was already done by its direct competitors of the time: Quake 2, Unreal, and Turok 2.
The AI were pure shit in those games. HL1 was probably the first FPS game with AI that mimics real human behavior.

>>378224475
kek you clearly haven't played unreal

>>378223910
All survivors of L4D2 were just boring, while the first game had the stereotypes such as "biker" and "war veteran", they were more interesting than "hillbilly" and "fat black guy".

>>378214537
I was watching a playthrough of it the other day and even though it used to be my favorite game I have to say it has aged really, really badly. Literally looks like garbage, gameplay is just physics puzzles which were impressive at the time but plain boring nowadays plus shooting the same types of soldiers over and over again, and story is nothing special (probably in part due to Seinfeld syndrome).

>>378224708
Nick having mafia past is more interesting than anything about the first batch already.

>>378224534
Unreal enemies don't flank you, they just run around and occasionally avoid your attacks. They aren't realistic either.

>>378224926
yeah you haven't played unreal

>>378224859
some fringe detail about "white guy on a suit"? yeah no

L4D2 levels were mostly fucking boring. They managed to make a mall level in a zombie game boring, how bad do you have to be at making maps to achieve this? Hard Rain was the only good one, interesting concepts with water reducing mobility and so on.

>>378215904
oh cool more FUCKING CONSOLE WAR SHIT
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING LONELY VIRGIN

>>378225026
It's not a fringe detail, it's clear through his personality and replies. You're clearly biased.

>>378224979
I played Unreal Gold for only like 3 hours because it was so goddamn boring. What's the big deal?

>>378225169
the big deal is you're a retard that has no idea what he's talking about and clearly hasn't played unreal

>>378214537

I never got the appeal of the series. Maybe I played it too late when I first tried it (2011) but by the time I got to it I thought it was kind of dated and bland. The over arching plot that seemed to not really be touched on, just hinted at, was what seemed like the neatest thing but the rest of the game just seems like a dated time piece, great in 2004 but long since made irrelevant

I don't know how 3 would do in todays market

>>378225263
I told you I played it like a decade ago for 3 hours. So what's the fucking big deal? Why should I prefer Unreal to Half Life?

>>378223792
>maps and survivors weren't as memorable
This is complete horseshit. Outside of like, the crossing, the L4D2 maps are way more distinct and memorable. The l4D1 maps always kind of bleed together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WqAmuSXEQ

>>378215789
>The unskippable cutscenes?

There are literally 0 cutscenes in the game.

Wow. Just yesterday I caught myself watching some hl2 videos of the first part, where you arrive in City 17.

It brings so many feels, and it still looks good. I remember when it came out, it was a freaking breakthrough.

Viktor Antonov is a genius.

>Jedi Knight II March 26, 2002
>BF1942 June 28, 2002
>Vietcong March 26, 2003
>XIII November 18, 2003
>Battlefield Vietnam March 14, 2004
>UT2004 March 16, 2004
>Far Cry March 23, 2004
>Doom 3 August 3, 2004
>Half Life 2 November 16, 2004
>Battlefield 2 June 21, 2005
>F.E.A.R. October 17, 2005
>Call of Duty 2 October 25, 2005
>Red Orchestra: Ostfront March 14, 2006
>Prey July 11, 2006
>Call of Juarez September 5, 2006
>S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl March 20, 2007
>Bioshock August 21, 2007
>COD 4 November 5, 2007
>Crysis November 13, 2007
>Portal/TF2 October 2007

It wasn't even the best shooter of its era. I would rather replay FEAR, Call of Juarez or STALKER than HL2.
HL2 had nothing going for it except the pretty graphics and gimmicky physics.

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>>378225026
>thinks of Nick as "white guy on a suit" when he's even called fucking gambler on the game's folders
>says fuck you walk the same place again but slowly and with less visibility: the gimmick: the map is the best map
>when there's shit like Dark Carnival or The Parish
nigga

>>378225483
the change from night time to daytime maps was terrible, not being able to see everything added to the maps of the first game, it just becomes boring when you can easily see all zombies

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>>378215904
AHHH GIMME GIMME BLOODBORN RIGHT (breathing pause) NOW PS4 HAS NO GAMEZ

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I sincerely hope it comes out one day just to see the tears as it doesn't even come close to expectations. Then laugh at the people who are in so much denial that they still claim it's amazing and shill it to no end.

>>378225890
This, you fucking nostalgiafags need to get over this game already.

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>>378226025
>having problem spotting zombies on l4d
>not using the sounds they make whenever they spawn both in versus and campaing to inmediatly know where they are regardless

>>378217102
Literally the best person for the job. I can't think of anybody else who could pull off vidyakino

>>378226181
still a fully lit map gives survivors the edge of much easier awareness and also ruined the style of the game, it was a bad decision

>>378214537
Is there any game with a worse pistol than HL2?

>>378225890
The golden years... before devs started porting console games to pc.

HL2 is the best of that era, because it had a good story with diverse play styles and terrains.

>>378226349
Doom.

>>378226349
What are you talking about? Shooting that gun feels so good. And the ragdoll physics make it even better.

Iconic pistol.

>>378226349
Tf2

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>>378226330
L4D taked itself seriously, it only worked well because of how bullshit strong the zombies and the infection were
L4D2 taked itself way less seriously and tried to take a more fun approach, and I think it succeded on that, nothing like bashing a tank's fucking head on versus with a guitar while Bad Man is playing in the background

they're both different and they both have their strenghts and weaknesses

but I will agree that L4D has the better lore for the most part, if Turtle Rock knows how to do anything in their games is good lore,
Evolve's had no right to be as good as it was.

>>378225890
>list of incredible games means that Halo 1-3 didn't have good campaigns anymore
come on dude

>>378214537
>caring about half life 2 13 years later
>saying it hasn't been surpassed

the new Prey is a better half-life than half-life

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>>378225890
>"I would rather replay FEAR, Call of Juarez or STALKER"
>All came out later then HL2
>The games he listed from before HL2 are shit like XIII which was notable for its graphics style instead of its subpar shooting

>>378217102
>>378226206
lmfao

>>378226797
lmao get lost todd, your games suck donkey dick

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>>378226804
>13 years later, still unsurpassed
>Those games don't count. They came out later

>>378219709
I didn't play any Half-Life games until 2011. Fucking loved Half-Life and its third party expansions. Couldn't finish Half-Life 2 because it was so shit. Fight me fagget.

>>378215702
two half-lives = 1 full life, chill

>>378214537

Valve stopped giving a shit after Portal 2.

Where did it all go wrong
What did Valve do

>>378228818

Valve found out that it was more profitable to sell other people's games and cosmetics rather than develop new ones.

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Make way for best source game.

>>378214537
It was surpassed the year it came out, Half Life 2 is horribly mediocre.

There is no single player fps that is not shat on, I think it shows how the medium has a long way to go if the prime of a genre are considerably flawed.

Halo CE, HL2, System Shock 2, Stalker, Bioshock, Metroid Ptime and Insertyourfavoritehere have enough flaws so that legit downers of /v/ can bash them into oblivion.

>>378229335
>enemy respawning constantly + shitty AI: the game
>good
don't mistake memes with reality

>>378216647
Half life 1 guns are so unsatisfying it's not funny. Only the shotgun and revolver feel good. I'll never understand half life 1 fags who say this and think it doesn't apply to the first even more

>>378229335
no

>>378231321

I forgive it all as soon as I get the tau cannon.