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Final Fantasy XII "gambit trailer"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHd0HM0AycA

It looks like one of those gamestop trailer instead of a Square Enix. I wonder if they are going to release any other game besides FFXII for the FF 30th Anniversary.
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Game plays itself. It's boring shit.
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>>378209621
test
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>>378209739
if you set it up gambits when at high level
can't you just not use it?
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Who praised FFXII for its story?
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>>378209739
Game is doing exactly as what you tell to do, whether you activate the gambit or not.
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>>378209907
Me. The script is amazing.
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>>378209621
zodiac age is SHIT because class system is shit itself
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>>378209621
>I wonder if they are going to release any other game besides FFXII for the FF 30th Anniversary.
With FFVIIR not coming out any soon, there is nothing besides FFXII HD, FFXV DLCs and WOFF DLC.
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>>378210017
In what way
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>>378209621
this video is MAXIMUM cringe
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>>378210095
because lorewise balthier is a sky pirate and not a white mag casting healing spells

everyone being able to use every weapon in the game was good
now you literally have to micro manage
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>>378209621
I thought it was an ign wank video the first time I saw this trailer.
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>>378209621
>https://youtu.be/uHd0HM0AycA?t=80
They messed up the coolor.
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>>378210180
Or you can play howver the fuck you want and not minmax
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>>378210180
then don't make him a white mage dumbass if you care so much about your precious lore
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>>378210180
Well, isn't it nice now you can make him both a WM and Gunner/whateverit was called.
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>>378210180
Apprently you can use 2 jobs now in the HD version. Honestly though, it doesn't seem like they really knew what kind of gameplay they wanted for this game, it had like 3 different systems already.
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>>378209739
>Spend ages setting up gambit automation
>What the fuck why is it playing itself?
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>>378210427
you can not you have to choose a role for a character thus leaving out pole weapons or swords completely
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>>378210532
>Apprently you can use 2 jobs now in the HD version
sorce
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>>378210536
>spend literally 1 minute setting up heal and attack gambits
>game plays itself outside of the VERY rare debuff mechanics that take 1 other minute to account for
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>>378209621
They did a good job with the Ost for this remaster compared to FFX/X-2 HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA1jgc-8iEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6UQqPEZ9j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2EnvA9S1W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ePYLfq3K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TVFbgrSyEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=927fU06ljSA
The new track are also pretty good.
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>>378210532
2 jobs? how does that work? do you have to max the first or is it simultaneous? given the amount to choose from, it's not a bad idea
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>>378210620
You set up everything. Everything is up to you whether you activate the gambit or not.
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>>378209621
>that trailer
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>>378210646
they sound too new
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>>378210682
You unlock it in the licence board
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>>378210757
There is 8 new track in the HD remaster, that's why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QEGx4eavo&list=PLiIf5PhutDR88PQH5CJWfBPU5ZRupam8t
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>>378210914
i can not into moon runes
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>>378210914
Is it know if they changed the board layouts or skills?
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>>378210551
God forbid you actually have to give your party some diversity rather than making everyone a healer.
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>>378210609
>>378210682
http://www.rpgsite.net/news/5513-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-screenshots
>Most notably, it is now possible to have a character set with two job classes simultaneously, instead of just one in the International version. Once a character unlocks "L Board Plus" on the License Board, they can then select a second job to complement their abilities. Different combinations of jobs are certain to have some interesting results.
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>>378209621
>>378209621
test
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>>378210993
The licence boards are the same as the IZJS version and they added a "License Board Plus+" (costs 30 LP) which you see in the previous picture. Once you unlock it, you will be able to select a second license board so they have two license boards simultaneously. After unlocking a second board you'll be allowed to switch between the boards with Triangle button ingame. The job you use will be highlighted next the character name.
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test
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>>378211234
>>378211195
>>378209763
Autism?
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>>378209739
Stop overeleveling
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>>378209621
I'm excited for this because I never got to finish it.
But fuck that trailer was awful
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>>378211092
one thing i'd like to know, are you stuck permanently to a job of your choosing?
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Why is this still a PS exclusive? port to Steam.
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>>378211373
As far as I remember, yes you are stuck with the two jobs you choose.
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>>378211229
its shit

let me be able to give every weapon to every character

thats my choice
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>>378211459
great thanks!
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>>378211529
look at this little casual baby
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>>378211529
Then just play the ps2 version... what's the problem?
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>>378211734
I want it on STEAM
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>>378211746
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>>378209962
It's amazingly average and boring.
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>>378211746
You can pirate it on PC
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>>378211434

>steam
>2017
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>>378211787
FFXII in my opinion had a beautifully written script, as in the way people speak, describe things and interact with each other.
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>>378211841
What are you implying dumb frogposter?
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>>378211858
Only thing I enjoyed about 12, was exploring the world and doing hunts. Those were great.
The actual story of the game is very bland, and taking out Vaan and Penelo doesn't make it any better, it just removes the best ass from the game.
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>>378209739
Option #1: Turn them off
Option #2: Limit to a single gambit (Attack Enemy: Near)
Option #3: Don't over-level your characters
Option #4: Don't just run around the map with the turbo button on
Option #5: Don't play the Zodiac Age version where it dumps nearly EVERY gambit the game has into the shop, right at the beginning
Option #6: Don't buy any gambit from the shop

All gambits do is let YOU program your ATB actions in combat for each individual. Your character is only as smart as you make it. And expecting combat to be challenging if you just run around the early maps with the turbo button on, chaining 500 enemies together when auto-attack is all you need, gaining 30-40 levels over any plot-related enemies, is stupid.
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>>378209907
I will.
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>>378211841
>2017
>console
LMAO
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>>378212036
You need to change the plot if you remove them.
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>>378212085
>Console = $6.6 billions $
>PC = $35.8
So this is the power of PC..WAAA
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>>378211092
>>378211229
>License Board Plus+
Fuck yes.
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>>378211373
Better think of the job combination now if you're planing to play. I would say:


Basch: Archer/Knight
Ashe: Samurai/Time Mage
Penelo: Black Mage/Red Mage
Vann: Monk/Black Mage
Balthier: White Mage/ Uhlan
Fran: Red Mage/Machinist
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>>378212352
>penelo not uhlan
pleb
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>>378212352
Vaan: Shikari / Foebreaker
Balthier: Machinist / White Mage
Fran: Archer / Red Mage
Basch: Samurai / Uhlan
Ashe: Knight / Time Mage
Penelo: Monk / Black Mage
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What the fuck is this trailer?
Was it made by watchmojo.com while also trying to make it look like Rockstar games trailers to pander to normal-fags?
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>>378212618
Sound like a gamespot trailer
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>>378209621
My one favourite in the series and it's among the few yet to see a PC release. I just wish they rolled this out for PC like all the other FFs. Anyone know why they didn't?
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>>378212085
Had to add B to make figures look worthwhile xd
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>>378212950
They will probably port this remaster later like they did with FFX/X-2 HD.
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>guys how do we fix this dumbass gambit system
>i know, lets make every character have a fixed board to make it even less flexible
and you faggots actually defend this shite as being an improvement and "fixing literally everything".
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>>378213106
What does the Job system/Licence Board have to with the Gambit system?
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does it come to pc or should i just emulate the ps2 zodiac version?
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>No playable Moogles, Bangaa, Seeq or Nu mou
Wasted
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>>378213291
Both. FFX/X-2 came out on steam a year later.
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>>378213652
Literally no one want to play as fat ass seeq
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>>378214042
>he doesn't want to BRRRAAAAAAAAPP his enemies to death
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They should have add alternates costumes for characters for each jobs for example like in pic related
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>>378209621
IM FUCKING HYPE AS SHIT
FF BROS WW@?
HOLY FUCK I CAN'T WAIT ITS GOING TO BE SO GOOD ;_;
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>>378214621
Autism?
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>>378214558
They would have to redo the model for each character then to do models of them with the costumes etc That's too much for Square Enix.
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>>378209621
How does this job system work? Does it replace the godawful license system?
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>>378214667
>HOW DARE YOU GET EXCITED OVER A VIDEO GAME
Autism indeed
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>>378213652
Literally lizard niggers
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>>378214621
Representing
Not gonna lie, I'm hyped for it
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>>378214767
Licence board is still there but limited to your Job.
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>>378215223
Holy shit it's even worse
Pass on this garbage
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>>378215470
In what way is it worst? Job system is one of things that usually present in FF games and give more identity to the characters.
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>>378211092
Seems a bit OP if you can have the two jobs active simultaneously as opposed to being able to choose which job's abilities you want to have active at that moment.
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>>378216145
Not as OP as vanilla.
Also it makes picking a job you don't like in the long run more forgiving.
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>>378216376
Yeah but I felt like the PS2 IZJS was balanced enough as it was. Only problem was that half of the jobs were left unused which could be fixed by just being able to switch between two jobs per character.
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They used the fanmade cover in the trailer lol
This is embarassing.
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Gambits worked a lot better when you have all of them. Luckily the IZJS lets you buy all gambits from the start of the game.
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>>378209621
Literally 10 years late. If only they changed the gameplay instead of copy pasting the jap version
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>>378209621
so fucking happy this game is getting remastered wish there was a vita version too. Video seems dumb too but I guess it's for people who really aren't into the game that much I guess
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>>378209621
Oh shit I actually watched this video. Is it fucking fan made or something?
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>>378209621

I don't understand the hype for this. It's just FF12 with a shitty, restrictive job system. The original game allowed you to specialize your characters however you wanted. What's superior about being forced into class-based roles that limit character skills? There's no reason why you can't play the original game with self-imposed restrictions, if you're just looking for a challenge. People do that shit with FF10 all the time.

Also, SE "enhanced" ports are always poorly optimized garbage riddled with bugs. Stop giving your money to this company.
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>>378219485
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII/Version_differences
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>>378209962
>The script is amazing.

Unless you're praising the original Japanese script, then your praise is without merit. The English translation makes up a ton of shit and has little to do with the spirit of the original game. I shudder to think SE bothered to outsource translations for other languages. Those regions probably ended up with something akin to the Spanish translation of FF7.
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>>378219850
Not Alexander O smith did a great translation like he did for Ivalice games in general.
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>>378219850
The english one of course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLBGbUGryRE
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>>378219176
It looks like it.
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OKAY NIGGERS
I only played casually both vanilla and izjs.
Now i wanna go full tryhard minmax autism. I remember someone posted pastebin with all jobs recommendation and cons and pros about each, but i lost the link. Does any one here has it?
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>>378219913
>Not Alexander O smith did a great translation like he did for Ivalice games in general.

Smith is the sole reason SE localizations are garbage.

I'll go out on a limb and assume you don't speak any Japanese and therefore can't argue with me. Although I still buy the occasional SE title, I always import. I have no desire to continue funding SE's NA localization branch. If -you- want to settle for a sub-par product, that's your problem.
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An action gameplay with gambits would have been better. Like you're using gambits for the characters you don't play and you have the action battle system for the character you control.
Also for a 3D game with free movement, they should have add more thing to the gameplay like when a boss do his special attack or an aoe or something you can avoid it by moving the characters or so like in an action based gameplay. Like the witcher
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but you can fucking play this right now with an ok pc
and max this shit with a decent one
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>>378220348
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/a-voice-for-ivalice-the-localization-and-voice-acting-of-final-fantasy-xii
localized script =/= badly translated script
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They did fix the magic queue right?
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>>378220543
Thank god
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>>378220348
He did a pretty good job in the games he worked on. He also worked on one of the phoenix wright games
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>>378220617
yes. The inverted camera as well. That's what bothered me the most in Vanilla.
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>>378220543
Still way too long. It's a fucking ps4. Some of the games don't even have loading screens besides initial one. They could've implement streaming or loading ahead of time when you enter the room all of the nearby rooms loads in background.
But i guess it would be pain in the ass to implement this in 11 years old engine
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>>378220348
Can you provide examples/proofs of bad localization? Without proofs your opinion means nothing and you just sound like an angry weeb.
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>>378209739
>use gambits
>is boring shit
>dont use gambits
>still boring because everything takes fucking forever

would have been great if gambits were for non controlled party members and you could actually do something fun yourself
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>>378221130
It play like the previous FF in real time instead of turnbased without the gambit. You can switch the character with the d-pad. It's pretty tedious but i made it until the end like that.
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>>378209907
me, it's the best FF story in the main serie and the world is great to explore
I didn't play the spin-off
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>>378221421
No it's not. The end of FFXII is meh. The game felt unfinished and it shows. There is no final dungeon for Vayne + Venat boss fight either.
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>>378216145
you can't have two jobs active at the same time, you need to switch with a button
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>>378220967
He is an angry weeb. Stop replying to it.
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>>378214558
would have been the best remake of all time
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>>378219176
see >>378216950
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Quick question for Ivalice lorefags: just how powerful is a fully-grown zodiark?
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>>378221502
>The game felt unfinished and it shows.
I think it's because they wanted to do a trilogie
but for me it felt enough finished
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>>378222613
You can thank Toriyama and his stupid waifu for that.
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>people still come into these threads to complain about how much they don't like the game "playing itself"

give it a fucking rest, its been over a decade. the game was clearly divisive in its design but most of the arguments against it are so tired and poorly voiced that i wonder if these people even bothered to play the game and arent just shitposting.

people who loved the game are looking forward to this release, people who never did, it's not doing anything new to try and win you over (unless you like the job system from the international edition and never got to play that).


Those who are NEW to FF12, this is for you, coming from someone who likes the game.

The game does not "play itself". You have a traditional FF style menu, when you're near an enemy, your characters go through and continue attacking enemies after you have selected attack (it's not that radically different from an ATB style FF where you hit attack after the bars fill up).

You have control over your character, you can move them around, you can stop attacking at any point. You can manually have them cast spells, use items, etc. You can even control your entire party.

the gambits are introduced gradually through the game to make things smoother for you as the mobs become harder. they're basically if-then statements (as shown by that stupid trailer) that you can plan out and even put in a que list of whats important. some people actually enjoy that (in the same way people enjoy Darkest Dungeon for example when youre in the town planning what trinkets to wear or what to take to the quest). You try to optimize your gambits for the situations and its satisfying to have an efficient party (that you still have control over). This is what the fans enjoy about the game, its not playing itself, its playing how you want it to like any other fucking rpg, its just possible to have your actions get planned out ahead of time and you can STILL override any of the gambits actions when you will need to
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>>378222740
>and his stupid waifu for that.
story, anon?
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>>378222613
>they wanted to do a trilogie
No, you're probably thinking of XIII Versus and Nomura. FFXII was unfinished at the end because it suffers from production hell du to FF spirit within movie flop and staff leaving in the middle of the devellopement.
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It puzzles me how XII doesn't really contain ANYTHING that wasn't already present in one or more previous installments but literally everything in it is criticised for being a shit and an unnecessary departure from the FF format. What brilliant logic am I not grasping, people?
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>departure from the FF format
What
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>>378223190
>Hunt
>new summons only related to FFT
>Gambit system & Free movement
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>>378223190
most people like the game, its critically acclaimed, the only reason its not MORE popular is because its not as anime as all the other FFs.
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>>378223030
I was thinking of Ivalice Alliance with games like Revenant Wings
if I remember well they wanted to do other games in Ivalice with the characters of FFXII
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>>378221421
People like you is what is wrong with video games.
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>>378223459
I never heard of this. Revenant wings wasn't made by FF12 team. It was made by FF13 team.
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where the fuck is my FFXII-2: Actually Skypirate Shit
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>>378223590
I don't remember well so you should check it somewhere else but i think the initial goal was to made 3 games with the FFXII team but I may be doing a mistake
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>>378223437
not him but
>hunt
i enjoyed these, theres also nothing new about getting quests to kill certain monster(s).
>new summons
are there people actually upset about these? in my opinion, they were far more interesting than the predictable fire ifrit, ice shiva etc etc. but again, mechanically, summons arent anything new
>gambits and free movement
this is where people will argue for ages, i liked it though
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>>378223635
that's revenant wings but it don't look good
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>>378211529
Go back to Skyrim Todd
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>>378223437
Only the returning FFT summons are the actual Lucavi that Ramza deals with centuries later, the rest were references to the final bosses of the first 5 FFs. XII actually has a shitton of references to rival IX itself.
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>>378223561
elaborate
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>>378223561
why?
because I enjoyed playing a game?
the story and the world were really original for once, just maybe too much based on Star Wars
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>>378220813
>Still way too long.
Nothing is ever enough for you people
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>he didn't preorder the steelbook

Explain yourselves
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>>378223561
Go away, Toriyama. Nobody likes your shitty mary-sue.
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>>378224275
Out of stock on Amazon by the time I knew this existed
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>>378224275
I don't have PS4 I need to wait for the steam release
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>>378220813
kys
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>>378224275

>steelbooks

Fucking kill yourself. Enjoy your cases not lining up on the shelf

I just got the standard PS4 edition on amazon
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>>378223635
There was a sequel but it was trashed.
>main character is Basch
>some shit going down with gods
>basch and ashe gonna bang
>jk ashe mad that basch keeps fighting wars
>basch gets captured and breaks out
>dies
>ashe cucks him and married Larsa

Not even kidding. Look it up.
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>>378221130
>give gambits to 2 other party members, input actions yourself for your character of choice

best of both worlds desu
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>>378224556
>not having a special shelf for steelbooks
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>>378224556
Literal pleb detected. All games should come with beautiful steelcases.
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>>378224623
>it's FFX all over again

Square needs to stop with their sequels
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>>378224691

Youre clearly too young to have ever bought old steel books, most of them have started to rust and rot away now

My Halo 2 case looks terrible
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i have to admit, when i played through vanilla, i powerleveled and got the zspear etc, before actually progressing in the game.

i frustrated me exactly like DA:O; archers and caster AI running into AoEs, tanks not tanking, just a complete mess that you want to micromanage like a squad tactics game, but you can't, you are limited by gambit shit. so i cheesed the fuck out of it.
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>>378224623
never eard of that, what's the name ?
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>>378224837
Ff 12 Fortress.
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>>378219850
>then your praise is without merit
>with the spirit
>I shudder to think
Literal fedora-tier weeb.
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>>378224837
Fortress. Toriyama personally cancelled it to make room for Lightning.
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>>378223635
>this shit again

To the nips, thinks like Sky Pirate and Bounty Hunter are just cool titles. They don't really get what they mean.
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>>378225094
Whats wrong?
Failed high school English?
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>>378224623
And thank Faram for that, anything Ivalice without Matsuno and the rest is just never anywhere near as good, and that sounds fanfiction-tier bullshit to boot.
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>>378225505
Everybody is laughing at you, not with you. Fucking weeb
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>>378220543
>>378220712
>>378220813
I remember making this for some idiot who said loading is faster on the PS4 than it is on PC.
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i just want an FF game where the women aren't hyper-sexualized
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>>378225630
Poor baby.
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>>378225092
>>378224623
kek why not i'm surprised it doesn't look that bad
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fortress
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>>378225582
I just dont want to see Basch get cucked and die.
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>>378225901
art direction was really good-looking
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>>378225226
>Bounty Hunter
kek that shit when the americans wanted to make bounty hunting missions in Metroid and the nips refused
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>>378225901
The story is shit.
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>>378225854
So what you're saying is you don't want an FF game?
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>>378209621
What the fuck. Who is this bitch? Sounds cringey as fuck.
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>>378224275
Still hoping for a PC release.
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>>378226502
You need to be over 18 to post here.
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>>378226271
yes, but gameplay-wise it look good
still not a bad thing it got canceled with that story
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>>378226948
Without Yatsuno, who was in charge of the story?
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>>378225854
I don't know what you're talking about
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>>378226719
I'm just saying, if it's FF, it's not NOT going to be hyper-sexualized.
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>>378227121
no idea but the development was made by devs from Stockholm
there has been disagreements in the art directions since the studio was going for a more scandinavian/viking style and Square wanted something more anime
read what they say here if you want more informations
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fortress#Development
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>>378209621
>If history had airships and moogles
THOSE ARE NOT MOOGLES YOU STUPID FUCKING WHORE
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>378224627

Exactly what I did. The only gambits I used was foe party leader target>attack, and some magic on flying enemies. On my second run and first time playing IZJS, I didn't have enough patience to do things manually, so I used more gambits. But then again, I couldn't cast protega, shellga and hastega at the same time with my party, so doing it manually would be tiring.
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>>378212352
>>378212591
>Red Mage
>Time Mage
>No Breaker
El oh el
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>>378228040
They're more moogles than those disgusting things in the XIII games. VI, IX, Tactics, XII and XIV have the best moogles of the series
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Favorite FF right here. I'm so excited to play it again.

I just hope they did a better job of making it """"""HD""""" than with X.
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>>378228535
Them being more like moogles than the actual moogles in some other game has no relation to them not being moogles.
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>>378225647
>uses the standard PS2 textures and models
>BUT WHY DOES IT LOAD FASTER
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>Red Battlemage
>Time Battlemage
Who was in charge of this """localization"""
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>>378228858
Somebody experienced and knew what they were doing, weeb.
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>second re-release of the gme
>still can't play as bangaa, seeq, garif, moogle, nu-mou, yemsa or baknamy
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>>378209621
I still dont get why limiting the liscense board makes the game better.

>players are mad they made everyone the same
>just remove the ability to make a class yourself and force them into generic roles

I hate any of you faggots that said it was bad because it made everyone the same when that is literally the players own doing grinding our the board for no damn reason.
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>>378229170
Disgusting nu-mous ruining our society.
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>>378229365
Because forcing the player to divide the finite, and frankly a small cast of characters, to fill specific roles forces the player to think about which character to use against what enemies and when.
It gives a bit of depth lol to a pretty easy game.

And making every character the same happened because it was allowed to happen.

Keeping the old license board but limiting the maximum amount of license points a given character can earn during a playthrough would be a pretty interesting compromise.
Though you'd have to allow players to reallocate license points because then the bads who can't read beyond their available license nodes would complain endlessly
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>>378229365

Why would you not unlock everything on the board?
The only bad thing about the vanilla version was how there was no reason to use different weapons. Outside of ZS and Masamune, there was no reason to not use great swords.
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>>378229813
Since when has 3D FF been about having the right character for the battle?

Only post game shit does that usually.

I think having the full board but limited points would have been better with a npc to reset the whole board for that character but it costs something
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>>378230035
>Since when has 3D FF been about having the right character for the battle?
>Final Fantasy games can't do new things
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Can't wait to grind for Tournesol again.
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>>378229925
>Why would you not unlock everything on the board?

Time.
I did nearly for my main cast the first time I played it. ONLY because of the LP+ accessory you can buy for everyone in the first quarter of the game

I literally never removed it and it was probably a bad thing overall. Thing is, I still set up each person to do different roles, it was more like FF7 where every character can use the magic its just what do you personally like to look at in terms of dat ass
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>>378224556
Actually, PS4 steelbooks are the same dimensions as a normal PS4 case, only with rounded edges.
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>>378209621
pc release WHEN
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>>378230164
>get the Wyrmhero Blade
>STILL nothing to use it on
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>>378209621
>I wonder if they are going to release any other game besides FFXII for the FF 30th Anniversary.
literally nothing besides dragon quest XI
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>>378230485
Stormblood FF14
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>>378230401
That's one of the reasons IZJS, and XII HD now, has Trial Mode. 100 floors of progressively harder battles, culminating with a battle against all five Judge Magisters and the hardest superbosses in the main game are a few floors down.
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>>378230401

You can play that 100 fights mode, can't you?
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>>378221502
He said best mainline FF story, not "a good story."
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>>378221502
>There is no final dungeon for Vayne + Venat boss fight either.
The Pharos is more than enough for me. They probably made the only accessible part of the Bahamut just those three or four areas because you already have a tower dungeon before that that took 2-3 hours to clear, and it wouldn't do to have the same kind of dungeon again.
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>>378221502
I don't know, we had the big Star Wars climax and everything went back to normal.

We didn't save the world, or kill god, or something like that, but we fixed things for Nalbina and Rabanastre, which was a nice fresh breath.
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>>378231663
And ended up causing two wars centuries later and countless deaths
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>>378209621
>"balthier... so dreamy"
>camera shifts to vaan
>fran to vaan: "are you finished?"

vaan confirmed gay
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>>378231842

>Tactics happen centuries after FF12
>Tactics was all a dream

FF12 was a dream too?
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>>378232001
Who said Tactics was a dream? Are you referring to Tactics Advance, which has nothing to do at all with the original Tactics?
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>>378232001
You're thinking of Tactics Advance, which has nothing to do with Ivalice.
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>>378209621
cringe trailer
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>>378232203
>>378232289

Oh, good to know. I never cared for Tactics. I always saw the FF8 cg pic behind my PS1 box, and dreamed on playing it one day. The first FF I bought was Tactics, and seeing those shit graphics turned me off completely from this type of game.
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>>378209962
this desu, i've always been mildly annoyed at the mentally underaged brainlets on this board calling the story boring because it's about politics and not some faggot and his fee-fees for some girl.
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>>378232531
I don't know if this is bait, but have you tried War of the Lions?
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>>378232606
toriyama has a lot of time on his hands; ignore his posts
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Can you change the character you walk around the map as in FF12

I dont want to walk through the deserts as vaan again
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>>378232850
Yeah, I always had Ashe as my main.
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>>378209621
I'm sorry I cannot listen to a woman with such a horrible American accent.
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>>378232850
>I dont want to walk through the deserts as vaan again
Outside of towns, you can make anyone the party leader. You can even only play as one character if you want. In towns however, you default to Vaan, but I'm not sure if they changed that in XII HD. I remember reading something about it, but I'm not too sure.
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>>378232653

The graphics probably wasn't that bad, but kid me went in expecting FF8 cg levels of graphics.
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>>378233017
Kids can be fucking dumb sometimes, but yeah, Tactics is sprite-based, and played from an isometric perspective. If you now as an adult enjoy playing games for their systems and player options, then you could give the game a try. It's even out on android/iOS, and after having replayed it recently on an android tablet to see how it played there, I noticed it plays great there, and I prefer the bigger screen to the one on the PSP.
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>>378233006
>>378232943

thank you bros. I am looking forward to this, it was my first FF and I can't remember the whole story.
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>Itoh and Minagawa will never make another Ivalice masterpiece
Fuck Squeenix.
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>>378224275
i have the steelbook preordered on amazon so i can put it right next to my ps2 FFXII steelbook
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>>378233256

I tried playing the GBA one, but didn't even finish the first fight.
Luckly, I returned the FFT disc and got the Coyotte game. That game was amazing.
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>>378233708
Well, the GBA one is almost nothing at all like FFT, they only look similar and both are SRPGs with job systems, but the original is still the best. Maybe SRPGs are not your thing. I also liked that Sheep Raider game too.
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>FFXII is easily my favorite FF
>Been enjoying what I've heard from the remastered soundtrack to my great surprise
>Get to one of my favorite tracks in the base game
>It sounds like absolute shit

Original -
https://youtu.be/YGYjQn4pBaM

Remaster -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWDpsDSjVts&index=55&list=PLiIf5PhutDR88PQH5CJWfBPU5ZRupam8t

What the fuck went so wrong? Remaster sounds so fucking out of tune.
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>>378235512
I absolutely fucking despise that Square Enix remasters don't give you the option to switch to the original soundtracks. The only ones are the PS4/PC version of FFX Remastered and that's only after the first version fucked up in the same way.
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Bumping for Faram's sake
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>>378235716
I heard from somewhere that XII will allow you to.

Besides, some of the older SNES FF remasters have that option so it's not totally unprecedented.
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>>378235512
It does sound strange, but it is a sample. Hopefully it gets better. Do you know the name of the soundtrack when you first meet Basch, deep down in that abandoned mine or whatever it was. I faintly remember one of the dungeon soundtracks being so eerie, yet soothing.
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>>378236246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEjm1Id5pc

The guy who uploaded the remaster version seems to have messed up and put the theme of the empire there instead of the remastered version of this.
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>>378236241
Do they? I never knew that. I was thinking primarily of the Kingdom Hearts remasters. None of them have the option to switch to the original songs.
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>>378237630
You can switch between both soundtracks at any point. It was shown off in one of the streams.
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>>378237450
That's it, Anon! Thanks! I remember, thinking I could push on and ignore the dark, then those high leveled zombies or skeletons just came and wrecked my shit! Never went back there after that traumatizing event, who knows what I missed.
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