So I've never been able to force myself to finish the Persona

>>378199851
Nova kaiser

His ultimate Persona can stop time. I don't see a lot of people making that claim though.

>>378199851
The ability to ignore the laws of reality.

>>378199851
His autism is stronger, so there's that.

contrarians. there isn't anything that shows that he is more powerful than those three. he has had his willpower tested the most moreso than them though and had the hardest life and that makes people like him. he is also the handsomest MC and his head looks like a penis.

>>378199851
He defeated Hitler and punched god in the face.

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>>378199851
He doesn't forget, he doesn't go along with the rules.

>>378199851
Since Persona 3 isn't a reboot all Shadows presumably come from Nyarly.

>>378199851
>the eternal punishment remake will never make it to the US
No of course I don't want brand new content and features from having my save file carry over... I guess 2 out of 3 is good enough.

>>378200452
Philemon not being weak as fuck when he gave the P1/P2 cast their powers should be testament alone to the P1/P2 cast being stronger than the P3-P5 cast. Never forget that everyone used to be able to switch Personas, not just the main character

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r-remember me?

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>>378199851
>says Yu but refuses to say Makoto

>>378200452
He fights actual Nyarlathotep, which is a big step up from just fighting shards of him in P3-5.

>>378200914
Your american counterpart has better battle theme

>>378200945
What's best girl had anything to do with it?

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>>378200914
Best protag with the best persona

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>>378200452
"Hardest Life"

Ima have to disagree there.

>>378200858
Yeah but there individual persona seem weaker plus unlike the wild cards they can't use them all at full power.

>>378200858
>Never forget that everyone used to be able to switch Personas, not just the main character
So was everyone a wild card back then or something?

>>378201023
Is there different music between the two PS1 versions? I thought it was just PSP vs PS1

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>>378200914
I unionically like P1 protag the most
Everyone else's got issues but when you meet P1's shadow he's just like
"You're a pretty cool dude"

>>378200945
>>378201057
I like the name Makoto better but didn't want response's like above or a "lol canon name" debate.

>>378201074
>Ima have to disagree there.

If you're implying P3MC had a harder life than Tatsuya you're a retard. Yes he became a door but the dude is probably not even conscious for it.

>>378201074
That depends. P3MC is a door but still has the bonds with his friends and kind of have some hope. IS Tatsuya survives but only through severing all of those bonds and no hope to get any better (also he's stuck on a nazi warship)

>>378200914
Real talk though, was this dude gay? There was literally no reason for him not to get with Maki or Ayase in the end, and it's not like that fucking left-ear earring is helping matters

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>>378201228
The game made it seem like he was but it's been awhile so I could be wrong.

BUT new Tatsuya gets to live a relatively peaceful life in ignorance(baring the unlikely event ATLUS finally acknowledges P1 and P2 in a spinoff.)

And other side Tatsuya is probably going to die at some point so hey at least his suffering has an end date.

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>>378201317
Well his starter persona is a naked /fit/ dude

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>>378201317
He probably just can't decide who to waifu, the only girl who doesn't seem interested in him in Persona 2 is Yukino and the other three are all top tier.

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>>378201146
He just wants to play video games. Piercy is just all of us.

>>378201827
Well Yukino's understandable, what with her being lesbian for her teacher back then.

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>>378200945
>>378201331
Akechi was better.

>>378201093
No, it's the same.

I really wish there was continuity between the games since they all happen in the same universe. P1 had Guido doing DEVA System shenanigans which is like the Collective Unconscious appearing in later games. P2 talks about artificially creating Persona users. P3 kinda references that but doesnt try to say it directly. Then it drops off. What's the end game? What's the point. I don't like when games ignore stuff that happens previously, especially if the games occur in the same universe

>>378201957
>just fuck off somewhere else away from Phil-Nyarly's pissing contest and P3-5's crazy antics

Piercy's based

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>>378202040
He truly is second best boy.

>>378201084
No, before the wild card people just had access to a wider range of arcana with different levels of affinity, because the point of a Persona isn't that they're a stand but that they're different 'masks' you wear through life, with varying levels of ease.

Only having one mask is the equivalent of having a single dimension of depth but that fits most P3/4 characters anyways.

>>378202221
The lead writer of Persona left after 2 so they decided to make 3 a sort of new beginning and well, I guess they thought it'd be easier and more profitable to have future games just be standalone, rather than have to worry about a continutity.

>>378199851
He can wave his hands and summon his purse owner in the real world. He also has a bunch of them. And he has real weapons.
He is also really good at imitating motor sounds and driving things.
Basically he has all the tools he needs to fuck up the world.

>>378202338
>having a single dimension of depth but that fits most P3/4 characters anyways.
Savage.

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>>378202364
Tadsona reboot when

>>378202221
They kinda do it with the spinoffs now but not in a way that people like very much

>>378202486
When he stops putting a self-insert into the game that fucks the protagonist of a previous game.

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>>378201074
>ima have to disagree there
We know Door-kun's parents are batman mode but we don't know anything else about how bad his life is before the game begins as far as I recall. And at the end of The Answer it's revealed that he literally has no regrets, since he kept is promises to his friends and willingly chose to sacrifice himself for the betterment of humanity. He figured out the answer to life itself and gave his body all Jesus mode and everything. Hardly suffering compared to what two games of Tatsuya's adventures amounts to.

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>>378203012
That's just the price you pay, Tad the Chad is unstoppable. Not even Mitsuru or Nanjo can oppose the true mega Corp of Persona, the Satomi Tadashi drugstore.

>>378203364
See >>378201480
Makoto may have been in peace but his soul is going to be in door limbo for who knows how long.

Now if ATLUS ever really did lose their minds and brought him back permanently? Then yeah sufferbowl goes to helmet head.

>>378199851
He had a closer relationship with Philemon back when he was in commission, got his gift directly from him, and then punched him in the goddamn face.

He BTFO Nyarlathotep twice and also fared through a battle with Philemon, two coins of unconscious humanity collective shit.

P3MC CAN resist death but at the same time without the actual power of friendship he was pretty weak, and he also failed to actually kill Nyx rather than just seal it away from Erebus.

Yu's powerlevel is suppose to be good but you never really get a sense for it, same for Joker until the end of the game and the 2loli evaluation, but at the same time Joker is powered by twitter polls and in both fights I mention he has his team with him.

>>378203608
But how is being in door limbo a bad thing considering the fact that he had no regrets or questions left to ask. He figured out the meaning to life itself and then said that he was going to sacrifice himself afterward.

We don't know if he's suffering. We do know that before he became a door he was euphoric as fuck and completely driven without any doubts.

What we do have is Tatsuya being documented to suffer eternal punishment for his innocent sin in terrible ways.

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>>378203371
>we'll never get another Velvet Room with more than just Igor and his 1/2 attendants again
I miss talking to the residents.

>>378204115
Igor's limited to making things tailored to the Wild Card. Hell, Igor and Yaldy in 5 is basically a weaker (as in a more specific part) version of Phil and Nyarly

>>378204267
It's been 3 games, can't Phil get his power back?

>>378201827
>the only girl who doesn't seem interested in him in Persona 2 is Yukino
Well and Ayase because she's literally the only P1 party member who doesn't show up after that game. Even Piercy gets to show up (or start to show up) in P2 but Ayase can't even get a mention in the "we mention literally everyone" TV show in P3.

>>378202338
Yeah I never got why they made the shadows of people turn into their Personas in 4 and 5
The shadow of a person is the true self, while a persona is what they project to society

>>378200452
>and his head looks like a penis.
God... dammit.

>>378203012
Is he that guy that they turn into a big cuck in Persona 2 because Kaneko thought it'd be funny?

>>378204601
They accept their true self and project it? Non-protags in P4-5 don't have Phil throwing persona at them so they probably have to make do

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>>378204408
Holy shit an Ayase fan, I haven't seen one of you in months.

>>378204601
did you fucking play persona 4

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>>378202364
Supposedly Hashino doesn't want to use the P1/P2 stuff out of respect to Tadashi and the original team or something but he's moved on from Persona now so maybe we'll get some use out of them now. Arena pretty heavily implied that the EP cast (minus Tatsuya and Maya) and possibly Reiji are part of Mitsuru's Shadow Ops group.

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>>378200452
>and his head looks like a penis.

I fucking love DMC

>>378200858

I kinda' like the new setup though, the Arcana support the MC and his Wild Card. It's pretty cool.

The bigger difference is that they can summon their Personas anywhere.

>can use his persona anywhere and any time
vs
>people that can only use their persona if they're in a tv, a tower, or in some palace

Pretty much anyone from P1 or P2 could catch one of them on the street and destroy them.

>>378204986
>Kei working under anyone

>>378200858
sure

but they were limited in what arcanas they could use and incapable of using fusion spells. they were also only able to summon in the real world because of the tremendous supernatural influence, like the dark hour

they weren't at all stronger even if they were all individually stronger than any of the cast members from the later games

>>378201827
>>378200914
>You will never understand why /v/ shits themselves defending this terrible fucking art

>>378205275
Nobody does.

>>378202391
>He is also really good at imitating motor sounds
>Basically he has all the tools he needs to fuck up the world.

Hmm

>>378205148
they could summon any time, in a world where fuckery let all rumors become true, or a world dominated by the dreams of a single person

plus the original SEES can summon in the real world, fuuka can do it easily and has something like a universal range, akihiko can as well. and this is all without philemon being there to hold their hands through their ordeals

>>378205148
3 characters can use them anywhere and with proper training don't even need there evokes. That's not even getting into two members of their group being heavily armed battle robots.

>>378204986
>Reiji
Hell yeah
>>378205215
Nanjo's obviously the head of his own Shadow Ops group and collaorates with the Kirijo one.

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>>378204678
No, his self-insert is literally named Satomi Tadashi and is dating Tamaki Uchida from If.../P1 because she's modelled after Yuki Uchida who was popular at the time. That's only in IS though, I don't think he shows up in EP with the excuse being that the character's in hiding in fear of his life (supposedly done because fans IRL hated it).

As a tangent, Kyo's girlfriend from the KoF games, Yuki, is also modelled after Yuki Uchida what with sharing the same first name and the cute boyish look and all.

>>378204343

What happened to Phil anyway?

And did Tatsuya really fight him? I thought he was an optional boss?

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>>378205375
I'll be impressed when they can switch persona at will and perform fusion spells.

>>378205464
I'm assuming Reiji's supposed to be the silhouette inbetween Junpei and Akihiko on the right since I can't think of who else it could be. The ones on the left are pretty obviously Eriko, Ulala, Nanjo and Katsuya though (and probably Baofu as the arm at the edge).

>>378200945
What does she have to do with P4?

>>378205509
Aigis can switch and it's not like the P2 characters can do fusion spells by themselves.

Hell the only one who can do that is a P3 character.

That's not even getting to the Wild Card power of friendship BS the later characters could probably pull.

>>378199851
being sad again about the fact that we never got the definiteve and complete version of 2 made me think, what will happen to portable persona now? that's the way i've played all the games till now, but with vita being dead and sony not releasing a new handheld, will theh just forget about portable ports? i don't see them jumping ship to nintendo

The real reason Tatsuya's stronger than Door, Yu, or Joker is he's had rumors spread about his own personal strength in both games, making him super strong with no effort for it to happen.

Also because he has an assault rifle. Like, a real, actual assault rifle he can use whenever.

>>378206524
Honestly Switch ports seems like the only portable future I could see the series having. It'll probably get Q2 at the very least.

they should make Persona 6 a means to tie everything together, and then go from there

>>378206653
i wish but from the 3ds not getting any ports and just that persona skinned etrian game, i feel like they have some sony-only policy for persoba. my wish is for p5 portable and a definitve version of 3. 4 is perfect on vita and they don't give a fuck abiut 1 and 2

>>378206842
I thought their policy was pretty clear. Persona on Sony, aside from Q, and everything else like SMT4, 4A, Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor 1&2 and Strange Journey on Nintendo.

>>378207152
which sucks cuz i like my rpgs on portables and now we won't get a portable 5

>>378201487
>See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil monkeys
10/10, though i don't get the rest