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Im actually thinking of buying it

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Im actually thinking of buying it
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Fucking shit shouldnt even be called fallout
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>>378198583
Get meme vegas instead
or stalker
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>>378198583
worth it
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>>378198583
It's worth it. This is another case of /v/ being very wrong about a game. This is probably top 3 for me this gen.
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Game is a borefest until you play in survival mode. Shit gets serious then.
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>>378198818
>This gen
>Having the ps3 as your first system
>being 14 years old
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>>378198583
opposite effect for me. downloaded it for free, played for 7 hours now and im bored to tears.

where is this amazing "bethesda open world so good for exploration unique places!" ive heard so much about. ive covered like 10 locations, 3 or 4 big dungeons and ALL of them are just winding tunnels with raiders, .38 ammo, and pipe gun crap. fucking boring

not to mention power armor and limitless amount of drugs takes any challenge out of the game. im fucking bored to tears
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its fun for 3 hours. 4 tops. When you realize that:
>All the missions involve going somewhere and killing someone
>The level up system is shallow
>The factions are all shallow
>The lore of the game is completely shit
>None of the guns are very fun to shoot (looking at you 45. cal combat rifle
>There is nothing to actually do
>There are 2 settlements
>everyone outside of these settlements is hostile
>Indiana jones in a fucking 10 year old ghoul body.
>The fo4 community is fucking toxic.
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>>378199048
It stinks, I bet fallout 5 is going to be reskinned call of duty the way things are going
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Its an incredible game. Never take/v/s hivemind seriously, they worship boring bland garbage like FONV and nostalgiatard games like FO2
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>>378199243
you didn't like fallout 2???
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>the level up system
my god how horrifying. doesnt feel like im progressing at ALL
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>25 bucks for the DLC even now.

Pure Jewery.
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>>378199243
Fuck you little kid. Fallout 2 is a masterpiece
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>>378198583
No. Wait for a price drop. To free.
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>>378199310
Maybe it was good on the 90s but isometric rpgs with sluggish unintuitive controls should be left in the past and forgotten
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>>378199159
idiot, who cares about story? when i get home from work i want to relax and shoot some shit text
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>>378198583

Dude, it's free to play this weekend on Steam and Xbone. Download it and see if you like it while it is free. It goes until the 29th.
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>>378199401
Yes less embrace this trend of even more stripped down experiences. Where you can go anywhere and do nothing when you get there
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Exploration and combat is fun
Dialog is garbage and most quests are just as bad

Considering that the game is like 14€ now you probably wouldn't regret it
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what even is the main story? who is the villain what is there to do after the world is dead?
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I quit at Concord. It's pretty much what I expected.
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>>378199401
what's sluggish and unintuitive about the controls?
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>>378199405
Start with your left temple if you want to shoot shit.
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>>378199310
>>378199392
FO2 has good world building and is great in the way that you can make choices that actually affect the game and build your character in so many different ways.
The combat, UI, and controls are all fucking awful though. I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to slog through all that shit to see the good parts.
>It's not about the combat! You don't have to participate in combat!
Doing a non-combat playthrough requires that you read a guide and only play the game in a specific way. The combat is shit and most playthroughs are going to heavily involve you fighting, especially with the random encounter system. And running from enemies isn't fun either.
The game has a lot going for it but whether you enjoy it or not depends a lot on your tolerance for shit design. I say this having played it to completion twice after playing 3, NV, and 1.
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It's okay to decent with mods but total crap vanilla. Too many restrictions on settlement building without mods.
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sounds like you guys arent IMMERSED
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>>378199159
did you actually play the game?
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>>378199829
What I don't understand is if I am playing GAME#4 and it is a very popular title
Shouldn't natural curiosity compel you to play GAME#1 and GAME#2?
This little ragamuffin probably looked at a lets play on youtube and completely discounted it
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do it it's a hella f*ckin epic game
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>>378200091
you can swear, it's ok tripfag
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>Forced to be some old cunt with a kid
>No freedom of choice at all
Why did they think that was a good idea?
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>>378199921
>settlement building without mods

>spend hours building settlements
>give settlers best armor and weapons
>set up turrets everywhere
>raiders, gunners, mutants spawn inside base
I hate this game
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>>378200256
Because voice acting constrains choice.
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>>378198583
>tfw i bought
im actually enjoying it so far. though i can see that this game is a step backwards in some areas
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I stupidly spent $100 on this game thinking that shoveling more money into it would make it better. Don't buy it. I spent the summer of 2015 looking up every scrap of information about this game, I was even subscribed to MrMattyPlays at one point. I got a next gen console just to play this. I had tons of fun doing the main quest and helping others along the way. After the Institute was destroyed and my Minutemen utopia was complete I decided to do cleanup. After that the game was a chore, quest after quest. Mechanist and Far Harbor were fun but the former is the only one I'd say I got my money's worth on. After I got tired of cleanup I started a new game to see one of the other three questlines (BoS). I immediately realized that it was exactly the same as the last game and verified when I saw them repeated in Lets Plays of the other questlines. It's all the same shit where your son is the villain you either kill him or nuke Boston. I actually did buy Nuka World but I was so tired I never even beat one area. Buy every other game in the franchise and even maybe Oblivion or Morrowind but do not spend a single dollar on this game.
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>>378198583
Why wouldn't you? It's a fantastic game.
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>>378199896
i agree about the UI but what is your issue with the combat and the controls? i don't get it, both systems are simple to understand and use
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>>378198583
Fuck these faggots. Most are just parroting what they think is the popular opinion. It's a fun game but far from the best ever made. If you want a bit more challenge, give survival a go. If you liked 3, you'll more than likely enjoy 4 as well.
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>>378200354
Heartbreaking because you know this is going to repeat again and again.
Wow this game is beloved for its unique qualities
Lets make a sequel that is "streamlined"
and " appeals to a broader audience" i.e chowderheads
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>>378199310
Fallout 2 is trash compared to the first one.
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>>378198583
Don't. I've pirated this shit twice now and it's never worth even the harddrive space. New Vegas is still an infinitely more engaging, rewarding experience.
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Wait for a $20 goty sale. Thats about what its worth.
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>>378198583
>Go to the vault
>Scientists fuck you over
>"Sure par for the course"
>Help some random survivors
>4/5 of them are dicks
>1/5 of them wants me to do his chores
>"Okay this is fine, maybe at some point..."
>Gotta help some settlers
>Say they have a little raider problem
>Send me to a fucking raider compound filled to the brim with snipermachine guns and automated turrets already deep in ghoul territory
>Come back a fucking mess
>Lol 50 caps, here you go fuck off
>"Holy shit, I want to kill them all"
>Meet up with brotherhood
>They're all assholes and then ask me to do a task for them
>Do it and they tell me to join they're circle jerk
>Finally I make it diamond city
>fucking Piper
I like the gunplay and looting, but holy shit I hate every character in the game. I'm actually going on a berserker file and just going to kill everyone I see
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>>378200483
the combat is entirely made up of just aiming for the enemies head, firing without aiming when you're low on AP, and using stimpacks when you're low on HP. those are literally the only decisions you make in combat. and its so fucking slow too. you have to wait for every enemy to move and its ungodly slow and boring as hell. theres also a lot of RNG, so the game's combat is basically just rolling the dice with almost no strategy at all.
the controls are easy once you learn how to use them, but they're not intuitive, and in some sections they just don't work, like where you have to move your character but a building is blocking your view
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>>378198818
millennial faggot spotted
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i just care so damn little about anything i fucking do

>oh a new location
>might as well go in i guess

>oh a gold plated lighter
>might as well grab it

>oh i leveled up what perk should i take
>might as well take this +10% rifle damage one

>oh i found another location
>might as well go in and kill more raiders

jesus christ just kill me
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>>378199159
Mah nigga
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>>378200793
you know when you have depression everything you once enjoyed becomes boring and tedious.
Get help, do it for yourself.
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>>378199159
>all missions require you to go here and shoot shit.
>Like literally every fps ever.
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>>378199552
>exploration and combat is fun

stop this meme. combat is fucking boring because everything is a bullet sponge and you cant specialize your character. not to mention how fucking slow and clunky the aiming firing and moving is.

exploring is NOT fun, ive explored 1/8 of the map and met ZERO npcs, zero quests, just dungeon after dungeon and location after location full of either raiders, synths or bloatflies. the coolest thing ive come across so far was professor goodfeels or whatever his name is.
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>>378200867
unless you are over 35 you are most likely a millennial as well dummy.
This person is most likely 15
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>>378199159
The fucking New Vegas community is the most toxic shit in the whole series
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>>378201043
>fallout is an fps
and therein lies the problem
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>>378199243
Fuck off and die. You're the kind of faggot that they cater to. The kind that just wants kill kill shooter games, no though no nothing. Just mindless faggots that want to "come home and kill shit"
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>>378199159
>community
>Single player game
Nigga what?
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>>378200961
or maybe its that FO2's combat system is actually boring and tedious
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>>378198583
It's not a proper role playing game. But it's a decent fun free roam shooter. With the current sales, you can't go wrong.
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>>378198583
I was too given the sale price. Then I remember

>dialogue wheel
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>>378199896
>> Doing a non-combat playthrough requires that you read a guide and only play the game in a specific way.

That is true. If you're a mindless faggot that cant think for themselves.
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>>378201123
Every fallout since 3 has been an fps rpg. Stop trying to make a superficial point with false depth you dumb ass.
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>>378200319
Its more of a budget constrain.
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>>378201293
oh fuck off, you know the only way to do a non-combat playthrough of FO2 is to spec your character in a really specific way or savescum
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>>378201179
I think you just don't like turn based games.
The depression thing is serious though.
If you ever find yourself being bored by things that once interested you, look into it.
Depression isnt just feeling sad, its being tired when you slept well and a unusual lack of interest in your hobbies and pursuits.
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>like the survival balance changes
>don't like the no saving at all
>don't like going to an area and clearing almost all of it then dying and have to redo it all over again
>don't like clearing an area then back tracking and resting for an hour just to save
>slightly autistic and don't like not getting achievements for playing the game even though i'm not too fussed about them
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>>378200319
>>378201408
While i remember, they spent money on codsworth saying some stupid names for like a few lines of dialog. Fucking morons.
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>>378201116
Nah, NV threads are fun as fuck.
You're just mad that you couldn't even beat Easy Pete.
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>>378201458
well i was never into FO2's combat to begin with
i wasn't into 1's combat either
or 3 or NV, they all have pretty shit combat (although NV is the best by far)
also some turn based games like civ or xcom i like, they're not really the same type of game, but they actually reward strategy. in fo2 the only strategy is knowing what fire mode to use, knowing when to use a stimpack, and praying to the rng gods. positioning hardly matters unless you're going up against a burst fire opponent (although you never want to be too close to someone anyways) and i literally never had to use any items except stimpacks. the only times i got killed were when the enemy scored a crit and killed me on 3/4 health or something
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>>378201314
fallout is an rpg first and fps second you fucking mong. new vegas and even fallout 3 did that correctly to varying degrees of effectiveness. fallout 4 is just a fucking travesty because all it is is an rpg
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>>378201116
new vegas threads are the most consistently on topic and lack of shitposting threads on this board
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>>378201661
>Part of the cancer thinks they're good
...woah.......
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>>378201762
No, they're meme ridden shitholes that merely act as a runway so the drones can go invade any other fallout thread and start calling everyone who disagrees with them Todd.
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>>378201796
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>>378201671
Have you played wasteland 2?
If you hate fallout 2's combat you are really gonna despise wasteland 2.
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>>378198583
Just download for free weekend and apply the crack.
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>>378201875
no, they aren't
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>>378201901
>being a Obsidiot
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>>378201996
>being a Bethescuck
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>Todd nowhere to be found ITT
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>>378200781
>going on a berserker file and just going to kill everyone I see
Was actually considering this
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>>378201632
Fun fact:
My name is nicholas. Not a single fucking "Nicholas" goes by Nicholas because it's 3 fucking syllables. We go by nick.
Nicholas is recognized by codsworth, but Nick isn't. So anyone who actually has the name nicholas won't hear it unless they knew about this in advance.

Waste of their budget.
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>>378201954
Yes, they are. That's what they do. Literally any Todd thread is by a NVFag, and every time there's a 3 or 4 thread, they need to come in and start throwing buzzwords around.
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>>378202024
Bethescuck? That's pretty weak.
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>>378202079
have you been to this board before today? any time someone starts a thread about a shitty game it's going to be called shit. visit any skyrim thread, where the people calling it shit are mostly fans of morrowind.

new vegas threads have minimal posting about shitting on fallout 3 and 4, they focus on talking about new vegas. you'd know that if you'd ever actually been in one
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>>378202158
shh dreamboy
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Just pirate it man
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>>378202078
Base union pay rate for a voice actor is 1600 dollars a day. Most likely they paid codsworth;s voice actor about six thousand a day. One name takes about 45 minutes total to do a take and they never go over 4 hours in a day...
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>>378202078
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Codsworth/recognized_names
Nick is recognized though.
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>>378202264
>One name takes about 45 minutes total to do a take
Gonna doubt it honestly, given sheer numbers. HOPEFULLY they went with the first decent take.
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>>378202181
>New Vegas threads don't talk about 3 or 4.
That's not the point, the point is they go to 3 and 4 threads and talk about New Vegas.
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>>378202321
The fuck? it didn't work for me.
Disregard me I suck cocks.
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>>378202417
you have no idea if that's true, since this is an anonymous imageboard. and that IS the point, my point, which was new vegas threads are some of the highest quality on this board. what they do outside of those threads i dont care about

fallout 4 and fallout 3 to an extent deserve the hate they get too
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>>378201043
Fallout:
A role playing game
Fallout 4:
Cawadootee
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>>378202436
did you spell it Nuick or Niq or knick or nigk?
do you have a Dvorak keyboard?
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>>378202574
No and no. Not sure what happened. Either way I was clearly wrong.
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>>378202650
Maybe you spelled it XxNickyBaby420xX or some shit you fag
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>>378202494
>I don't care about what happens outside of New Vegas Threads
>3 and 4 deserve the hate they get

Oh, so its ok if 3 threads get shitted up by you drones... And this is why no one likes you or tries to argue with you guys. Completely irrational and disrespectful. Don't bother replying.
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>>378202772
>Not being irrational and disrespectful.
You act like being a goody goody debate team lovey is gonna earn you some credibility.
Go jump in a lake you blockhead
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>>378202650
>Note: Some names listed may not work.

You're not wrong, that linked page is. Someone ripped all 924 recognizable names from the game, "Nick" is not there.
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>>378201116
>being this wrong
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>>378202772
they do it precisely because it triggers you so much
grow a pair faggot
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Is Fallout 4 a main plot only game or are the side missions actually worth doing?

I got pretty burned in FFXV and now I have to know before going into games so I don't waste my time
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>>378202772
>Don't bother replying.
haha that rage tho
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>>378202772
>getting this triggered by someone not liking your favowite video game
first day on /v/ or something champ? and if by "no one likes you" you mean "people that think fallout 3 and 4 are great games" then that isn't really a big loss then is it. they have nothing to argue with, that's why they dont try to argue. that argument has been done to death in favor of new vegas every time. theres literally nothing left to argue

there are never threads about fallout 3 or 4 because nobody wants to talk about them because theyre boring and they fucking suck
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After playing every game in the series, except BoS and Tactics, I can honestly say this list was right after all. I thought /v/ said NV was good?
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>>378203470
I tried to buy BoS when It came out, couldnt find it anywhere. Right around the time when interplay went belly up
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>>378201052
>not to mention how fucking slow and clunky the aiming firing and moving is.
you're talking bout new vegas, bud
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>>378203274
>>378203294
>>378203010
>>378202940
>resorting to ad hominem and deflection tactics to avoid losing arguments

So the rumors ARE true about the New Vegas fanboys... huh.
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>>378198583
only if it's cheap on sale and you don't actually give a fuck about roleplaying
literally less real choices than in fucking fallout 3
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>>378203798
no, im describing both. but fallout 4 is hailed as a good shooter, while new vegas is not
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@378203823
>arguments
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>>378203470
Why does this image need to be so confrontationally phrased? Calling them the worst gives the sense that they're bad games, when most of them are actually quite good.

By the way, why is it a competition anyways?
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>>378203823
I wish they didn't have so many youtube videos debunking logical fallacies.
> Gee "strawman" "Ad hominem" I better use these every chance I get that'l show them that I am the logical one
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@378203823
>being this mad no one cares about or likes fallout 3 and 4
>... huh.
>reddit spacing
So the rumors ARE true about the F3 and F4 fanboys.
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>>378200291
i just leave power armour in every settlement
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>>378204142
As the picture states, New Vegas is pretty bad, but a small few that browse /v/ like it. They have this complex where they know the game is worse but they need others to think it's great, it's actually kinda funny watching them squirm around lol
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What are some must have mods?
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>when (they) get so mad they start using @ instead of directly replying and continue to squawk about irrelevant stuff
You literally cannot make this up
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>>378204330
>falseflagging
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>>378204557
It doesn't make sense from your side dummy.
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>>378204426
name 5 games you think are good
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@378204557
>being this mad that no one is falling for your bait and giving (you)s
>literally
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I spent two hours fucking with config files to get rid of mouse smoothing mouse acceleration. there was this insane mouse lag which I found out was caused by vsysn so I had to figure out how to turn that off which made the game run smooth and feel perfect but then I noticed dialog lines were overlapping. the second line in a sentence would begin while the first line was being played implying to me that dialog is tied to fps so I HAD to turn vsync on but it plays like ass with it on.

I eventually got frustrated and uninstalled the game. tldr consoles and lazy devs are a cancer on this planet.
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>>378204625
>you're a falseflagger if you dislike my favorite games
hahaha
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>>378204735
Fuck man, this game can go straight to hell.
Stupid bean counters ruin everything
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>>378203470
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Please do Anon, I'll make it worth your while
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>Fallout 4 is almost 2 years old
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>>378203219

Eh, there is a lot of side stuff to do like any fallout game. Depending on what you like you can do main quest, side quests or focus on building the community.

You can also just do nuka world dlc and become a bandit leader and take over the common wealth, which is more fun then the main campaign.
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>>378199159
>There are 2 settlements

Dude what? There are like 30 settlements, but that's exactly the problem I have with them. Instead of a bunch of small generic ones, they should've made like 5 really well designed ones.
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>>378204426
It is good man and that's all I gotta say about it friend. You need to try and enjoy more games.
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>>378200869
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>>378199048
Well that is why you don't use power armor or drugs. It babies the game for you.

You're at the point where you're purposely trying to make the game way too easy.
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>>378200781
make sure to disable essential characters, anon
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>>378206253
the thing is i cant specialize my character to be a really good sneaky sniper or a retarded guy that beats the shit out of people without skills and only a few perks that increase weapon damage, which means i cant think tactically about engagements, i just have to jump in. instead of being able to dump 60 points in 6 levels directly into guns and blast the shit out of everything i come across, i have to wait until level 9 to put another rank into the rifelman perk, which means my rifles do shit damage until then normally. even if im shooting a dog with exposed skin, the thing is a fucking bullet sponge and combat is just boring, all i can do is shoot and stimpak until i eventually down him about 4 magazines
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>>378204142
because it's a bait image
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>>378206690
How? It looks pretty accurate desu. I wouldn't say any of those are bad per se, but they're arguably the weakest.
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>>378206812
the only two games it was actually made for was NV and GTA 4, notice how none of the other games even fit the bill, not to mention it's all subjective anyways.

thanks for getting me to respond, retard.
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...Hey!
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>>378201116
>toxic
back to tumblr faggot
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>>378204735
>but then I noticed dialog lines were overlapping. the second line in a sentence would begin while the first line was being played implying to me that dialog is tied to fps
kek that's why this was happening when i played it
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Is there a mod to fix the DJ. Holy shit, I just want 3-dog or Mr. New Vegas Back
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>>378206812
>new vegas and gta4
>the weakest when fallout 3/4 and gtav exist
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>>378198583
I didnt like it but if you do,have fun anon!
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>>378198583
for this gen, it's great. I got 220 into it before beating the main story. there's so much to explore, so much to see, and so much to build. I would recommend if you're on pc
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HATE SHAUN
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>>378207249
i fucking hate travis
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>>378206045
>Rageface
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>>378200354
You are the cancer killing gaming
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It's skyrim with guns. The armour is just werewolf from Skyrim that can use weapons and takes batteries.
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>>378198583
Fun game.

Sim settlements mod is dank.
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>>378198583

why buy that when pic related is free and way better?
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Pirated it when it first came out. Quit around 44 hours when my fun had already stopped WAY before that. Game felt off right off the get go because you're drowning in supplies in the first few minutes and it never comes even close to conveying a sense of urgency that you'd expect from a post-apocalyptic scenario.

Downloaded it again with the free weekend to try out the supposedly revamped survival mode that people on the internet were praising and saying how "hardcore" it was. Minutes after I was drowning in supplies again and alredy overencumbered due to how much shit I already had at my disposal and things were just as easy to kill as the first time I played it, except now you risk dying to some random classical bethesda bug and losing copious hours of gameplay because saving is disabled unless you sleep.

Why is bethesda so fucking shit?
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New Vegas will be like 3 dollars during the summer sale

Its a better game for 1/10th of the price
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>>378201116

I love new vegas but this is extremely accurate. Obsidian drones are just like witcherfags. They are overly aggressive towards every other fanbase and they live in their own bubble where the company whose dick they suck like a 1 dollar whore can do no wrong and everyone else is <boogeyman>. There's no discussion to be had with these inbred mouthbreathing fucks.
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I love having to get rid of the mouse acceleration, fixing the vertical aim speed and unlocking the frame-rate so its not 30 but then having to lock it at 60 anyway because anything higher breaks the game. All this before I can actually get into playing the game.

Then the first bandit I see the frame-rate tanks to under 30. I shouldn't be surprised, it is Bethesda after all but fucking hellllll.
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>>378200291
>build a beautiful settlement like in that pic
>realize the npcs are all shallow copy paste settlers who do nothing, have no stories, have no dialogue, no quests, no lore
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>>378198583
When is the GOTY edition coming out? Why hasn't it even been announced yet?
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>>378201116
>get a load of this guy
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>>378203470
Bait.
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is the season pass for this game any good? I usually hold off on buying these kinds of games until a GOTY version comes out
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>>378200291
God I wish I could make something like that on. Can there be a mod to raise the limit on ps4?
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>>378198583
I played it last evening, since it's free weekend.

I hate the hoarding aspect. I'm supposed to collect every single fucking piece of crap now to upgrade my weapons?

I'm really not into this base building stuff. I want to be a fucking hero doing awesome stuff. Not baby sit a bunch of settlers.

Maybe I will buy it sometime in the future, but I have a huge backlog to finish first.
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>>378203470
nobody thinks halo 5 is good
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>>378198583
Does it have futa mods yet?

If not, are there any good survival mods to make it feel more like stalker or something?
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>>378200256
>>Forced to be some old cunt with a kid
>Why did they think that was a good idea?

Isn't the average gamer in his late thirties? I bet it's certainly like that for western RPGs like Fallout.
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Nuka world is the best DLC.

And if you do buy it, Modern Firearms 2.5 adds alot to gunfighting. Everyone does gobs of damage now. You, the raiders, your companion, everyone. I think it's great!
>>
It's good and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

The world is amazing as well. Compare to nv or 3 and those both look like ps2 games when you're going through boston.
>>
The game runs much better than I anticipated. With just the God Rays set to low (and why wouldn't you) I can stay at 60fps at 1080p about 95% of the time with a R9 390.
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is fallout 4 a good game? i think its alright.

is it a good fallout game? hell no. if you play 4 expecting a good fallout game, than its not worth it.

if you just want a game were you build and kill shit, than its alright.

the main story is pretty retarded though.
>>
>>378200291
Building something a fraction of the size gives my PC some trouble.
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>>378214470
you can just use console commands that makes you carry as much as you want.
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>>378213321
Seriously, it's been almost 2 years like >>378205128 said, fuuuuck
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>>378214783
>not wanting to be action mommy
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>>378200291
looks really cool but than you realize none of it matters.

its like playing a poor mans sims game.
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>>378213570
Yes, it really flushes out the settlement system and the story dlcs are good. A goty package would be a good value tho but bethesda are jews so who knows wheb when that will come out.
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>>378198583
Its actually 7,5/10 game and this is coming from someone who played Fallout 1/2 when they were new games. People who bash it it are most likely 15-19 years old teens who just bash it for being Bethesda game and because its cool to feel being unique snowflake and say "it doesn't even deserve to be fallout". Most of these kids haven't even played the original ones or New Vegas for that matter. Its just cool to jump on the bandwagon, its the way teens act. but yeah all in all, its decent game, go for it.
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>>378201632
>Input my real name (which I never do) to try this gimmick
>Hear Codsworth say my name once
>Never hear it again
>Talked to Codsworth like 3 times in many hours
I feel pity for the voice actor who had to read all these fucking lines.
>>
>>378215376
go to bed todd
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It's a good game but it's a disappointment compared to the earlier Fallout games.
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>>378215248
thanks

I'm pretty patient so even if a GOTY version doesn't come out at least the discounts should get better eventually
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>>378215141
Action mommies can be pretty cool
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>>378213321
you can just pirate a complete edition. its not hard.
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It's a pretty shit game even on survival. The world is pretty boring, the story is awful, and the gunplay is subpar.
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>>378198583
Personally I hated it but if for some reason you happen to like it it's pretty good value for your money I guess.
Just don't bother with the DLC except maybe Far Harbor.
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>>378200781
>>Send me to a fucking raider compound filled to the brim with snipermachine guns and automated turrets already deep in ghoul territory
Yeah what's up with that? I'm at this point and although enemies don't take too many bullets to die, there's simple way too many of them. Am I meant to play this quest later or something?
>>
fallout 4 exists to build a palace of worship for our goddess Curie

>>378213790

you can raise/remove the build budget, my 2 bros play on PS4 and build all the time. also you can get all those extra pieces, like those archways. i don't even have them on PC, guess i just haven't found the right mod. so long as its on the vanilla game you should be able to mod it into PS4, you just can't add any new content.

the real pain is having no "place anywhere", you have to do some absurd glitching to clip items on PS4.
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>>378215615
>Nora stops searching for her son so she can fuck a nosy reporter, cage fighter or a fake human on a dirty mattress
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>>378214921
And boston looks like shit compared to the zone.
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>>378198583
I tried so hard to give Fallout 4 a chance. I've re-installed it like 4 times now and still nothing has hooked me. The game's just so dull it's upsetting.
>Here's an interesting looking area
>Oh but there's no real quest tied to it, just more raiders to shoot
>Repeat over and over
Bethesda seriously need to fuck off forever.
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>>378203470
>Unironically saying that New Vegas is worse than 3 or Tactics
(you)
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>>378216673
That's exactly the problem I have with the game.
I have reisntalled the game multiple times, I've tried to ignore the main quest, I've tried mods, I've tried survival mode but I've quit every time because there's nothing more to the game than going somewhere and shooting some bandits/robots/mutants. I have tried playing it as a base building autism simulator with infinite resources but it gets boring after a while.
In my multiple attempts at playing the game I've found two interesting dungeons and one interesting quest, the rest of the game might as well have been randomly generated with random dungeons and radiant quests and it wouldn't have seen any decrease in quality.
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>>378203470
>>378204426
>ad populum fallacy
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>>378198583
Take advantage of their free weekend going on right now
>>
It's fun for 10 hours.

Pirate it.
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>>378215724
So it IS complete as in no more dlc bullshit, right?

So why are they taking their sweet time with a GOTY edition?
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>le just play new vegas
>le cowboy roleplay
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>>378216121
Yeah, just save often and just look for the main guy. It's not hard, just tedious, and make sure to use med-x. You'll find enough to make it through without running out till the end
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If you want to play an FPS apocalypse simulator with a ton of stupid mods then buy it (if its on sale)

Don't buy it if you want a post apocalyptic strategy RPG with meaningful decisions.
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>>378217708
Do you think it's worth 20 european dollars?
>>
how bad does the accuracy get not meeting the strength requirement for weapons in new vegas
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>>378217503
t. someone who didn't play New Vegas

I love New Vegas and Fallout 4, but holy fuck the roleplay elements in 4 were god awful. "Well you can be a war veteran who is on the hunt for his son or... Yeah!"
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>>378198583
I actually liked it.
Batter than 3, not as good as NV.
Not as good story wise as 1 or 2.

IF you like the Sims and Fallout, you'll adore it.
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>>378217503
>le
>I have not played the game
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Its boring as fuck and sucks ass. Walking simulator combined with babbys first survival game. I always beat a game on principle alone, but couldnt bring myself to finish this POS . I knew it was going to be bad when the main protagonist starts the game on some basic bitch quest to find his son.
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>>378217995
Bethesda's starting points are usually pretty awful.
3 was just as bad, NV at least tried to make a little difference.

Alternate start mods for all 3 games are the best point of entry though.
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Are there any mods out that makes survival mode more akin to hardcore mode with Jsawyer mod on NV?
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>>378218028
Just like new vegas. All fallout games are baby rpgs for casuals.
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It's kind of satisfying to build up your own personal army and empire around the wasteland and drive out the BoS. Siding with them is easy mode by far.
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>>378203470
the list is correct except NV. No one with a brain would prefer FO3 to NV
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It is a good game.

But a bad Fallout game and a fucking terrible role playing game.
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>>378218080
The courier had the best open ended intro that allowed you to go anywhere straight from the beginning. 3 and 4's intros were fun the first time around but doing them any other time was such a drag.

The worst part about it is that they frontloaded the voiced protagonist on you so it's pretty much impossible to mod Shaun being your son and you having to find him out out of the game.
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>>378218146
(you)
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>>378198583

It's pretty stabil
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>>378203470
Yup that picture is true. Lots of reasons why those games are loved so much is because it was babies first on the pc.
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>>378217995
>"Well you can be a war veteran who is on the hunt for his son or..his wife who we never bothered to give any backstory at all other than a line of dialogue from the Lookout of USS Constitution!"
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>>378218272
Can't really add much to that, I agree.
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>>378201116
>Everyone giving this guy (You)s

He literally said "no u", why are you trying to prove him wrong?
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>>378218272
You can go wherever you want if you want to deal with a thousand deathclaws, otherwise you're walking the southern road and following the path obsidian intends you to go. NV is alot more empty than fo4 and you never encounter enemies just wandering unless you go to an area where they specifically placed enemies.
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>>378218375
see the thing is the less backstory the better. What made it good about the Courier was the fact that you were a Courier for the Mojave Express. THAT'S IT. Everything else was open ended and up to you as to what type of person you were before the events of the game.

I don't get why SJWs didn't blow up on Fallout 4 for essentially forcing gay people to be married to the opposite sex from the get-go.
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>>378212263
Nah.
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>>378218668
>NV is alot more empty than fo4
But what is FO4 full of? The same bandits over and over? Dungeons so dull that might as well have been randomly generated?
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>>378206253
>Don't use power armor
>Don't use one of the actually ikproved features in the game compared to previous titles
It's like one of only three real positives about the game
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>>378217997
Disgusting. I want bethesda to die.
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>>378218768
>I don't get why SJWs didn't blow up on Fallout 4 for essentially forcing gay people to be married to the opposite sex from the get-go.
They complained about that, but their complaints were lost in a sea of other complaints about the game forcing a backstory on your character.
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>>378198583
I liked it.
7/10 bretty good.

>BAD
- limited dialogue options
- shitty autogen quests used as a crutch
- two dimensional factions

>MIDDLING
- settlement building system, you either love it or hate it. (I love it, sorry.)
- DLC focus on settlement system, took time away from story DLC
- empty world in some areas
- default character models aren't awful

>GOOD
- For a bethesda game, looks great on PC even without mods
- Shooting is actually pretty remarkable
- Weapon mod systems work
- Great story DLC in Far Harbor, pretty good for Nuka World (but repetitive after the first few hours)

If it's on sale and you're happy with the price, buy it.
Otherwise, just pirate it, who cares it's like 2 years old now.
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>>378219018
>Remarkable shooting
WHAT? That implies is does something interesting within the FPS genre. It absolutely doesn't. Just because it has marginally better shooting than 3/NV it's a 7/10? Fuck off. It's a 5/10.
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>>378218859
Don't pretend like NV has such great locations. There's plenty of worthless areas that don't even deserve a map marker
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It's a good game, it just triggers the fuck out of NEET obsidion fans because it reminds them that their favorite cringe neckbeard RPG was cucked from them by the dreaded normies

e.g.

>>378198660
>>378198713
>>378199372
>>378201135

etc,etc
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>>378215376
How can somebody learn so little from their time with crpgs? This doesn't deserve to be called fallout and you don't deserve to play ACTUAL roleplaying games.
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>>378219228
Yes New Vegas had a bunch of map markers that really didn't need to be there but It still has a lot more interesting locations than Fallout 4.
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>>378199243

> I am 13 y old and I know what i am talking about

The post.
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>>378200793
As you just said, combat is really simple-- at most you have to quickload a couple times. This means you can focus on the ROLEPLAYING and story pretty easily.
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>>378198583
Wow why OP? Just pirate it if you're that curious about it, you'll regret buying it.
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>tfw you enjoyed all the fallout games

Even if 4 is weaker story wise it has a gameplay loop that makes it fun to play casually in bursts of a few hours, hence why it's so popular among normalfags.
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>>378214879
Now show us the reload animations of those weapons.
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>/v/ is suddendly defendind Bethesda's rpgs post morrowind
wtf is going on here
>>
>>378198583
Get it used.
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>>378216207
>Fallout 4 has bad storytelling
>100% accurately captures the motives of a single mom
>>
Not even my normalfag were that stupid.
>>
>>378219292
Please explain to me why fallout 4 is a good game?
>>
>>378199993
Obviously he did because those are all facts about the game
>>
>>378200383
Reddit is out in force today
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>>378200556
ie redditors in this thread who like fallout 4 is good
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>>378221530
>fo4 fans can't even spell properly

Like pottery.
>>
Its a great game, with a pretty deep story. Just don't expect anything groundbreaking, its shallow in some ways. As long as you expect more action game and less RPG you'll be satisfied.
>>
>>378221530
>there

stopped reading right they're
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>>378221745
don't look at me, I didn't make this
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>>378198583
I'm waiting for VR
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>>378221530
it's pretty obvious the maker of this diddn't speak english as a first language, but it's pretty accurate.
>>
the mehanics of this game bore me to death
>>
>>378203823
You are using ad hominem wrong, as one the the people you are responding to gave you a actual reason
>>
>>378217495
didint they say nuke colo was their last dlc? either way, there is a pirate version of the game with all dlc. simple as hell to install.
>>
>>378222007
There aren't even any mechanics. Most of the perks are just replacements for the removal of stats and the settlement shit doesn't even reward you in any meaningful way.

FO4 is just a giant theme park where most of the rides are the exact same raider or mutant shit hole and everything else is empty padding
>>
>>378201930
>apply the crack

How?
>>
>>378221530
Every faction in fo4 except the minutemen have a "with us or against us" mentality and the railroad is the easily most retarded. You have to wipe out the whole town of covenant full of real human beings just to save one synth girl
>>
>>378198583
dont fall for it anon, i started playing it on survival and the awesomeness of it, blinded me to the hard facts.

Towns are almost empty because the game assumes youll build them up with the shitty minecraft minigame. So theres no interesting nps at all except 2 or 3 old school towns (diamond city, the outcast city nearby and the factions bases).

The plot is paper thin and their horrible decision to voice every line, makes the plot even worse, listening to tired voice actors read one of the thousands upon thousands of lines makes you feel how little they care. It also forces the game into the great 4 dialogue options (all very similar) nightmare the game has.

The combat is great, gun crafting is espectacular, and the scavenging is the best ever, sadly it because its funelled into the horrible minecraft side of the deal.

The plot makes you pick one faction and MURDER the other 2 factions, no middle ground no gray area, just "ohh you like the robot hippies lets exterminate their enemies "

Just fucking shit
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>>378221530
>BoS
>will make great strides to reclaim and secure anything useful as well as collecting and rebuilding prewar systems
>end of the game they decide to blowup the institute despite it being one of the most technologically advanced places currently present within the entirety of he Fallout universe
>>
>>378223950
>>378223257
This is why i hate Fallout 4's writing
>>
>>378223950
The BoS isn't interested in the synth making machine, FEV experiments or their inferior laser rifles. Institute has nothing they want.
>>
>>378223405
>The combat is great, gun crafting is espectacular, and the scavenging is the best ever,
Sounds like GOTY material to me.
>>
>>378224232
Plus don't they say that there tech should never be reproduced, or used by anyone ever, which justifies blowing it up
>>
>>378203470
No one on the fucking planet ever said halo 5 was good
>>
>>378198583
I couldn't even play the damn game. It crashes right after I press play in the launcher. A black screen and it crashes. I don't even know why i went through he trouble of downloading 24gb for this shit, thanks todd.
>>
>>378203649
I still have my Xbox copy somewhere, really wasn't that bad a game, but wasn't much of a Fallout game at all.
>>
>>378224232
Teleportation? Sound great for the BoS 2bqh
>>
>>378219292
(you)
>>
>>378219487
>airforce base is an empty, dull, needlessly huge field
>strip is a boring new reno wannabe
>goodsprings is a dull pseudo spaghetti western town
>every interior is a set of tedious corridors, longer and more repetitive than all fallout 3 subways combined
I really don't see it.
>>
>>378219201
With a damage buff mod to get rid of the bullet sponge, the gunplay is nicer than a shitload of open world out there. Try using MADNESS, it suddenly turns into a great FPS.
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>>378225721
It would be handy but they already have plenty of vertibirds that offer them more mobility than pretty much anyone except maybe the NCR top brass.
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>>378216534
>staring at walls
Look at the bigger picture.
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>this year is the 20th anniversary of Fallout
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>>378205935
I think he means towns.
You know, the emerald city and the good neighbor.
Well, you could argue that when the brotherhood of steel comes around that their blimp and the airport would count as one more town, but that's stretching it a bit.
>>
>>378203470
>Fallout new vegas and gta IV.
I'm sorry, what?
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>>378226873
Nice textures, Todd.
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>>378228664
Are you trying to convince me that shit looks better?
>>
>>378228778
Are you trying to convince me that the blurry bloomfest that you posted looks better?
>>
>>378228664
>Work in Progress
>>
>>378227773
Diamond city, goodneighbor, vault 81 and bunker hill are the main ones I can think of. The whole wasteland can be civilized and prosperous if you build it up.
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>>378229053
>blurry
Get your eyes checked senpai.
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> fallout 4 has no rpg dep-
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>>378230270
-th
Next thing you'll tell me Mass Effect 3 has rpg elements.
>>
>>378229754
M8, it looks like someone poured vaseline on all surfaces.
>>
>>378198583
As someone who did

DON'T.
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>>378225926
>airforce base is an empty, dull, needlessly huge field
I was so disappointed when I found the airforce base. I searched a bunch of those hangars hoping to find something but they were just huge and empty, like they made the assets but forgot to actually give the player something to do there. I was hoping maybe I missed a quest that would take me there but I never got around to beating NV
>>
>>378219292
look guys, gotta get them (you)s somehow, right?
>>
>>378213127
what are mods ?
>>
>>378213127
>build a beautiful zoo in zoo tycoon 2
>realize the npcs are all shallow copy paste visitors who do nothing, have no stories, have no dialogue, no quests, no lore
>>
Holy fuck why are the SARCASTIC options in Far Harbor so fucking retarded. Literally this everytime except not fucking funny just cringe af https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbFhOeqTzY
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