>he fell for the vr meme

The porn was worth it baka desu senpai

>>378180907
>600 bucks to tape 2 low-res screens to your face

>>378180945
>sour grapes

>buying a half-assed glorified monitor

No shit it's a meme. Bought a Vive 3 months ago and still enjoying it

Jokes on you, VR is actually fun.

>>378180836
>he will never plays cool games like robo recall, the unspoken, dead and buried, onward, etc

Damn it sucks to be a poorfag

>>378180836
>He gets motion sick
Another 5 years and you can sit in the front seat without a barf bag like a big boy.

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>>378180907
I think VR is here to stay. It's taking its time to get into the market but progress is being made.

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>>378180836
Press to teleport to desired stationary shooting location.

>>378180836
>he gets sick with VR
Do you blame others for your homosexuality as well?

I just want this for the space sims.

Give me VR Elite Dangerous and EVE Valkyrie so i can live out my space trucker fantasies and I'm content.

$399 for a room scale capable headset is gonna be the sweet spot for me.

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>>378180836
Have you tried putting a fan in front of you while you playing video games?
If that doesn't work, maybe run on a treadmill while playing.

Time Crisis and The house of the Dead on VR when?

>>378182867
THIS
FUCK
It was made for this shit, and yet they make these horrible games

>>378182627
>Just wants it for space games
>demands roomscale tracking

I just want a VR for custom maido but they are expensive as shit

>>378182867
>>378183130
Overkill VR is the closest thing there is, too bad without the cheesy story and actual effort, it's just shit

>>378183415
Trinus VR lets you use phones and PSVR. Move controllers aren't ready yet though.

>VR

senpaitachi ....

>>378183329
senpai this is lit

I think enhanced reality games have more potential if done right. People went batshit about pokemon go and that was hardly a game.

>>378180836
>he's still mad mom and dad can't buy it for him

>>378180836
When will this shit only cost 150 bux and need just a 200 bux gpu to power it?

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>>378183329

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>>378183735

>>378183728
>when will this shit 150 bucks
Probably never
>And need a 200 bux gpu
You can run it with a overclocked 970 - just will fuck you when it runs out of vram.

>>378181013
>person doesn't like a thing
>"huuuuh SOUR GRAPES haha i win"

Not an argument. You might as well just say "I disagree".

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Reminder that VR cannot fail. It can only be failed.

>>378183946
Now all it needs is some games.

>>378183946
ughhhh hate people like this vr is a fuxxing meme its not going too get better littrally just a cash grab

>>378183946
By the hardware manufacturers and devs in particular.

Are there any """""VR""""" """"""""""""games"""""""""""" that aren't physics toys and shooting galleries?

Can you play normal games with it? Or does it suck for that?

>>378184186
Driving and flight sims are great with it.

>>378184186
Umihara Kawase VR is pretty bitching, it's like playing with figurines in a little diorama world.

SuperHot VR is also awesome, probably the best VR game out there. I haven't tried the EVE game though but that one also looks pretty good.

I keep forgetting VR is a thing. Thanks for reminding me, op.

>>378184186
Fallout 4, resident evil

There are lots of non shooting gallery games out too that are priced less than full price

>>378184273
>>378184281
no WRONG you dumb cucks fucking nothing is good with this retarded cash grab meme

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Fell for the meme, don't regret but no gaems.
AMA

>>378183728
You can already run it with a $200 GPU
The headset itself though...

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>>378184186
Check out Cosmic Trip. It's a VR only RTS

>>378182096
Only oculus oriented games are like that m8

Should I get the Vive or wait for second gen hardware?
It's burning a hole in my pocket

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>>378184529
Get Cosmic Trip reeeeeeeee

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I fell for the VR meme and I love it. 170+ hours on Onward and about to hit 50 on Pavlov. I pretty much have endless hours on Vivecraft. Can't wait for Fallout 4 and Payday 2 VR to end my social life.

I would definitely say I got my money's worth but I already had a VR ready rig to begin with.

>>378183482
I don't think custom maid supports it though

>>378184650
Wait for at least 5 games you really want to play.

>>378184703
Doesn't really look like i would like it

>>378184186
Cosmic Trip
Onward
Pavlov
To The Top
Climbey
IronWolf VR

to start. I'm just reading off my library.

>>378184781
Delete this, you aren't supposed to be enjoying VR.

>>378184650
Get a vive. They've apparently been making slight adjustments to the hardware like making it lighter and better straps.

>>378184843
It looks pretty hard core, and can be, but it's pretty good for all audiences. It's pretty accessible but has a lot of depth.

>>378184843
There's already 5 games I want to play.
Already have the PC for it.
Already have the money.
It's just a matter of whether I should get the Vive or see if the second gen is better.
I might just say fuck it and buy Vive, sell it off to whatever fag was too poor to get it retail then buy a second gen HMD

>>378184650
Vive owner here, definitely wait for eye tracking and wireless adapters to be a thing. If you really don't give a fuck about money LG is coming out with a higher end version of the Vive soon.

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>>378180836
VR is suffering

>>378184781
>Onward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMv1PdInL80

This garbage is considered good?

>>378185178
1:1 tracking and Illusion VR games would provide endless amounts of hilarious OC if everyone had a headset.

>>378184906
Everyone who actually tried it enjoys it, anon

>>378185014
Well i waited for a deal for my Vive and got it for 700 eurobucks (down from 900, hardware prices suck here)
In the end the only thing that is regulary criticised I can 100% confirm is no gaems, or at least just a few worthwhile atm.
Maybe you should wait for new hardware/ price drop.

>>378185237
Onward and a lot of the other shooters currently on vive are just one man indie trash games. You should look at the higher quality shit like Cosmic trip

https://youtu.be/VxQXeGeI2uc

It's nice to see what a real team can do when they set out to make a solid VR game instead of a shitty shooter shoved into VR like a gimmick

>>378185237

Honestly, nothing even comes close to VR shooters. Ducking and dodging out of cover is a workout and feels like airsoft at times. Games are fucking tense. Hiding from a hail of gunfire actually feels like you're doing so.

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>>378185459

>>378185459
This poster actually thought this video depicted an enticing experience.

>VR
>every 5 years or so some company gets people hyp
>it's always got the same issues it's had for decades
>flops every time

I remember when people got excited for the VR headset for the Geforce 2, compatible with Directx 3. The same retards fall for it every time, it's hilarious.

>>378185612
>Has so many awards the steam page has a read more button
>Shitposting whines about vr like sour grapes

I'm going to get a PSVR when it's cheap, I'll wait as long as it takes, but I'm going to goddamn play Rez in VR.

>>378180945
>he thinks you need to buy a dedicated VR setup for porn

the feature is included in my phone

>>378185689
They're like cultists. They even popup and argue with people over their own experiences playing.

>>378185689
Its never had the momentum its had, but we are still a bit away.

>>378185507
Honestly I don't know about that, VR can be immersive but it's nothing amazing unless you are easily impressionable, on the other hand kb + mouse is still the superior controller while VR works great in space games where you use the flight joystick but outside that VR itself doesn't offer any new form of controlling your character within the game nor anything new or innovative worth the hassle over "standard" controls.

>>378185812
The only thing that's a bit away is for the dev cycle of AA+ VR games to end.
They rushed the hardware to the market before devs had chance to code.
And of course it still isn't for the mass market because the hardware itself and what is needed to run it still isn't widespread.
But from what the things can do, at the moment, we are already there.
As long as you aren't a SOA fanboy...

How well does riftcat + Gear VR work?

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>>378185719
You should talk about its Metacritic score too. Oops. :^)

>>378183882
Well have you tried vr?

Not shitty gear vr

>>378186159
>Judging a game based solely on owner count
Steam rating is 90% :^)

>>378185981
>Playing serious sam VR.
>Running/strafing like in the original game
>Being able to aim and shoot at two targets at the same time

>>378186170
I used my android phone, opened a VR app and held the phone in front of my face with my hands to try and simulate a VR headset, so far I can say that VR is a shit meme and isn't worth the money.

>>378186159
>Single player game
>Indie studio
>Anon posts owner count with a le meme face
Really fires the nearons :^)

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>>378186213
What did he mean by this?

>>378186408
You're losing me, my man
What is your point?

>>378186469
There are video games and people buy them on Steam

>>378186469
I'm joggin' your noggin'.

>>378186503
>implying video games exist

>>378185435
>Everyone who actually tried it enjoys it, anon
I bought an hour on one at a local VR arcade and I've been thinking about it since. I intended to just shell out a few bucks to try it and get the experience out of the way, but I'm probably going to end up shelling out and buying one anyway. It's a long way off from being a replacement to video games and all the issues I thought I'd have with it are there (the controls being untenable for proper games for one), but it's a fucking amazing little thing in its own right. It'd be worth it for the HS porn alone.

>>378186408
So you are telling us that a indie game that runs on a toaster sells better than an indiegame that needs hardware for 2000 bucks to run.
Who would have thought.

>>378186503
And so you buy your games based 100% on what other people are buying? I don't understand. Are you 7?

>>378186593
Are you saying that people don't buy video games and that no video game has ever been sold before? Your argument is getting a little shaky.

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>>378186574
And store experiences usually run at default setting which are usually shit.

>600 dollars to go blind

lamo
i can stare at the sun for free

>>378186670
Nigger what

own a psvr and love it. it's incredible. Still really want to try a vive/occulus and the touch controllers though. It's so fucking good as it, the idea of playing on a superior version really tickles my pickle.

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VR is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjOVH-KTl4k

>>378186845
That's what I thought, your cultural Marxism doesn't hold up when I put it under scrutiny, you thought quoting Sun Tzu would help you but it appears that I am the real one who has mastered the art of war.

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>>378180836
I've done everything I could to get sick with VR and nothing's worked. Guess it sucks for the inner earlets who throw up from being shown pictures but it works fine for me.

>>378180836
I don't think it's a meme. What is a meme are the controllers that come with the system and the assload of tech demos. The best VR game currently are racing games that just werked with it. Why? It has the controller to go with it. Problem the god damn resolution of the screens which is the only reason why I haven't bought one.

>racing
>looking at next turn
>it's a blob of pixels flickering into appearance
disgusting

>>378186971
Motion sickness is for babbies and clickbait articles.
Even people who get it come over it after an hour.

>>378187032
Have you tried to set the pixel density setting higher?

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>>378186971
>>378187087
VR still has a long way to go, companies have done nothing to help people with complete blindness overcome the issues they are having when trying to see the tiny little screens in those headsets.

Fucking VR meme.

>>378181013
It's not an exclusive item, y'know. He can go out and buy one

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>>378180836
What are some VR games that allow me fly kites?

>>378187397
If he could have he wouldn't be complaining. The only people who complain about VR haven't tried a vive. Logically he's upset he can't afford it and vents his frustration on 4chan as a means of feeling better about his sour situation.

>>378187397
With all the console war bullshit on here I doubt that huge parts of /v/ can go out and buy anything that's over 20 bucks.

>>378187528
>If he could have he wouldn't be complaining
>The only people who complain about VR haven't tried a vive
You have absolutely no evidence for this so we can just go ahead and throw your argument out the window. Say goodbye.

>>378181234
>that fuckin bald patch in the middle of his hair

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>>378187528
>Hurr Durr Taco Phone

I bet you'll love it if you could afford one!

>>378187753
Not him, but nothing he said indicates that he did try VR either.
And from lurking VR threads on here for a while and having demo'd my Headset to several dozens of people I can tell that most people on here who shit on VR never tried one and just citing some clickbait shit they heard.

>>378187974
I tried one at a store display and it was garbage, trying to play a game on that keypad was torture. Store displays for VR are rarer and are usually crowded out by people so you can't even actually use it.

>>378187974
I'm a dev for a VR studio so obviously I'm biased. But after doing showings of our game and seeing smiles on literally thousands on faces one after another I can't take anyone sour about it on /v/ seriously.

>>378188129
>I'm a shill so I'm biased.
>My livelihood depends on not taking anyone seriously.

>>378188129
Go on and shill your game already, those of us who have a HMD are starved for ones anyway.

>>378188129
They were only smiling because they enjoyed the product, not because they liked it. Don't get your hopes up.

>People ITT hating on VR

Not one person I know who has tried it, hasent had fun with it.

>>378188220
Now you just sound butthurt that you can't afford one, anon.

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>>378187980
>my personal experience is an accurate statistic and removes all possibility of even outliers
>implying my argument is leaning on whether he has it or not, rather than the fact that anon has no idea

>>378188310
I pirated VR, eat shit buyfag

>>378182867
Time Crisis 5 ported to PS4 when? Come the fuck on NAMCO, stop pretending that you invented Dark Souls

>>378180945
>$600 for "games" where you have to teleport around to move

If you had only three choices on a desert island, which would you pick:

>VR Games
>Mobile games
>revolver with one bullet

>>378188375
Having asked about 30 people personally about their experience after showing it to them gives me a more accurate insight on it than most of /v/ will ever have.

>>378188280
>they enjoyed the product
>not because they liked it
This is on the same level as "improvement isn't always a good thing"

>>378188495
This guy roots for the bacteria that will kill you after a routine surgery.

>>378188580
Bacteria aren't real.

>>378188489
Still waiting for a title, anon.

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>>378188489
Even if I did care about your personal experience, you could just be lying. I don't know you, I don't know the people you talked to.
How do you know the people you talked to weren't just being polite? How many of those people even went out to go buy a vr headset? Do you know?

>>378182302
Well its not my fault all those men are so handsome.

>>378188701
RuneScape VR

>>378188701
I'm not >>378188129
I'm just a faggot who justified his the bucks he shilled out for a Vive by demoing it to everyone I know.

>>378188769
>RuneScape

>>378188956
Not RuneScape, RuneScape VR

>>378188220
I don't have stock in it, I just work there.

>>378188956
That was the nonsense poster not the nodev.

>>378186319
Phone VR is a joke.

>>378188743
As you don't know the people in any other statistic you will ever encounter.
How I know that they were honest? I'm an pretty direct asshole most of the time and people who still are my friends despite that are well aware of that and have no problem to be directs assholes to me - so I'm pretty sure none of them wanted to avoid hurting my feelings.
How many of them got a headset afterwards - probably none, because I told them to wait for more gaems before getting one.

>>378189212
Shill from earlier here. It's because they had real laughs and smiles on their faces while playing my game. They were really happy and peppy when asking about it after.

The only people who didn't give real praise were soccer moms (couldn't get past tutorial kind of people) or this one guy who wouldn't shut up about how the genre itself was trash, a serious try hard.

>>378189416
We still wait for the title of the game.
Or at least more details.

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>tfw can't afford real VR so just watch side-by-side-3D gameplay recordings on youtube using a cheap phone headset
Jealous desu

>>378189517
It's been posted a few times in this thread already, actually. But not going to say which myself. Sorry anon

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>>378189212
Holy fucking shit, are you really arguing against the very idea of statistical data at this point?
What if your friends just don't say shit to get you ranting? Considering that you're an asshole I wouldn't want to talk to you, at least not for too long.
And based on your personal experience, you're telling me vr is absolutely not worth 600 dollars which would justify this post right here >>378180945 since none of them got it.
And what do you mean "probably"? Don't you talk to your friends?

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The VFX-1 was a sweet piece of kit back in the 90's. Shame nobody learned the lessons from its demise.

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>>378189416
>real laughs
>video game

>>378189760
I bet you're a fun person to hang around :^)

>>378184416
>get told whats good
>NO NO NO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

lol

I have disposable income and was able to fuck my maids in Custom Maid 3D 2, so I'm fine with my purchase.

>>378189653
I don't monitor their every step and some of them live a few hundred miles away.
I'm very sorry for you, that you can't seem to trust the opinion of the people you call friends - was also at that point one time, getting rid of those was one of the best decisions i ever made.

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>he still hasn't played a shooter in VR

So anon, what's really stopping you from enjoying the future? Too poor? Too fat?

Oh well, see you when you catch up in a few years.

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>>378189734
Da Vinchi's helicopter was a sweet piece of kit back in the 1600's. Shame nobody learned the lessons from its demise.

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>>378189793
Thanks. We can get together and laugh at your game sometime.

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>>378189996
LITERALLY a call of duty map

>>378189996
>Crouching is a gameplay mechanic
>Every 8 year old shitter and manlet is fucking oddjob

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>>378190173
Pavlov alone is worth it to me and it's a shitty unity asset flip. The second the AAA game releases in VR (three of which are supposed to launch early this year) people are going to be up-selling VR everywhere.

It's a shame /v/ has to hate everything because this is something that still has that cool small-ish community where you aren't being bombarded by normies constantly.

>>378190227
Children are absolutely hated in VR games and get kicked/bullied to death almost immediately. Most games will ban your account if you keep letting your kid play, and if that fails you can always just execute the little faggot yourself.

also

>crouching is a gameplay mechanic

Never skip leg day faggot.

>>378190034
http://www.pixsoriginadventures.co.uk/system-shock-on-the-vfx-1/
The VFX-1 was actually usable on its time of release with adequate displays (for its era), accurate motion tracking, and even a gimmick controller. It's main problem was that it cost $600 in 90's money, which is a fortune in today's money.

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>>378190034
Quit being such a poorfag. I bet you'll love helicopters if you could afford one!

>>378189996
>>378190368
Are you getting paid for this or do you really have that bad taste?

>>378190462
He has 50 hours in Pavlov.

>>378190368
>Never skip leg day faggot.
I just meant that kids would be constantly
"crouching", although if they're getting universally shat on then that's okay I guess.

>>378190368
>>crouching is a gameplay mechanic

no he thinks that somehow something that can track your location, direction and whatnot, couldnt possibly have a "how tall are you" setting

>>378190462
>>378190529
It's one of those shitty awful games that you know is made by some idiot 17 year old with no experience but it's just so goddamn good. Don't you remember getting that feeling from CS or the old quake mods?

>>378190550
It's a legit tactic, smaller mass for them to hit

>>378190565
It calibrates your height by how high the HMD is off the floor lad....

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>>378189996
>>378190368
Honestly the best part of these Webms are that you can see how nervous they are while shit happens. Normally the most you get is aim jitter but with the hand tracking you can see their hands shaking.

>>378190713
actually it literally asks you. source: i set it up around....4 hours ago

>>378190713
Ok so you are that 17 year old. Got it.

>>378190910
I'm confusing it for either BaM or Onward then, it's hard to keep that straight.

>>378190959
Actually i'm 23 and i can't code a fucking "hello world" script.

>>378191015
yeah, you are, because you set it up literally before you play any game, ever

>>378191248
>yeah, you are, because you set it up literally before you play any game, ever

You're a fucking moron if you're trying to tell me you set up your height in the steam VR menu. Please actually try VR and then talk to me you stupid faggot.

>>378191350
Well I don't know about onward since not him.
But all games that involve crouching i played have a "please stand click button" "please crouch click button" thing.

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>this thread

>>378191632
>"please stand click button" "please crouch click button"
Name one game that has a crouch button that isn't a modded game like doom 3 or minecraft.

I haven't played a single made-for-VR game with a crouch button, because that makes no sense.

And no, steam VR does not calibrate your height. it does not care if you are a manlet, it cares where your headset is in 3D space. Only certain games use your height, and they decide how it is measured. It is usually your HMD height or they measure the distance between your HMD and controllers while at rest and calculate it that way.

>>378184617
>Paying $600 to feed a virtual slut cake

I'd pay $600 to have everyone who played this killed in their sleep.

>>378191847
You could barely afford to have a yourself killed in your sleep for 600$ you stupid neckbeard.

>>378191816
You crouch, like actually bend your kneed and click a button to let the game know on which height your are crouching/standing.

>>378191847
I'll chip in.

>>378191753
LOL

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>>378191350
no your absolutely right, you dont set it up in the steamvr menu because steamvr takes its default settings from the software that came with the device itself, which you set up upon the first time you use it

>>378191753
>vr will finally be good in 80 years

>>378191938
>You crouch, like actually bend your kneed and click a button to let the game know on which height your are crouching/standing.

Please explain to me why the game needs to know what height you crouch at.

You would literally just crouch in real life at that point of the game, what VR have you tried where i makes you do this?

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>>378191912
It's the same price.

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This pos just sits here looking like a faggot

>>378191753
Not surprisingly it seems everything went to shit after the first generation

>>378191753
>It's the current year and VR headsets are still rather expensive on PC and require quite the hardware and set up
>Still no real killer apps other than mods for other games, but nothing other than porn that would make you outright buy it

>>378192032
...well, yeah. if it was different prices, he might be able to afford one more, then the other

>>378191996
>no your absolutely right, you dont set it up in the steamvr menu because steamvr takes its default settings from the software that came with the device itself, which you set up upon the first time you use it

The only thing you install are drivers (throught steam or viveport) and install SteamVR. It is obvious you do not have a vive and are just talking out of your ass like a fucking clown.

The vive software literally NEVER has you set your own height. You set the height of your virtual monitors via the controllers and that is is.

Shut your fucking cock holster and quit your bullshit.

VR headsets are the modern-day 3DO/32X/CD-i.

>>378192030
For instance I have this game where you jump around all the (point wand to location, it indicates a jumping arc you will follow) time, if you crouch while landing (actually crouching irl) you do a slide, if you land standing while landing you don't.

In the multiplayer games its mostly to show your model crouching and limit your walking speed because you are crouching.

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>>378192041
>he bought facebook on his face

Do you at least have touch controllers anon?

>>378192149
If you look at your post in your HMDs does the unnecessary vertical spacing in your post make it look like it's coming toward you?

>>378192149
>The only thing you install are drivers (throught steam or viveport)

yeah considering i set my up like, 4 hours ago, im gonna go ahead say, no

>>378192208
Good, but ultimately too expensive?
Good, but useless because something more powerful came out at the same time with more games?
Shit, but has nice music in majority of it's games?

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>>378182096
wrong

>>378192314
Overpriced, overhyped pieces of shit that went nowhere.

>>378192232
I'm spacing because i'm autistic please be understanding, i'm not misbehaving.

>>378192224
Sairento VR? That's literally the only game i have ever heard of that being used. Every other game is admittedly a LOT slower paced, so i see the need for it in that game. Since it ties into combos it makes sense.

>>378192287
i'm obviously not talking about the GODAWFUL FUCKING HARDWARE SETUP. Wanted to bash my fucking head in while doing it. The software was a breeze, literally installed it to my SSD and restarted and it all worked.

>>378192208
>>378192314
None of those had any real benefit or improvement over old media, they were just a gimmicky new way to experience them with sub-par tech. Current VR is extremely accurate and actually a lot of fun.

>>378182867

Rush of Blood on PSVR is the best shooting gallery game of all time...much better than Time Crisis or HotD

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>>378191753
This is supposed to be some epic burn about how those who refuse to buy into the VR scam are just jaded fogeys but really all it does is make me sad thinking about all the sweet technology I'll never live to see. Fucking finite lifespans.

>>378192491
>shooting gallery games and on-the-rails shooters are making a comeback in VR and will enter a new golden age thanks to motion sickness

It's a good day to have autism.

>>378192445
Yeah it's Sairento one of the better things you can play right now - sadly it's still far from finished.
But at least they update it quite regulary so I don't feel early access scammed.

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>>378192445
>it dosent ask you your height
>WELL I WASNT TALKING ABOUT THE PART WHERE IT ASKS YOU YOUR HEIGHT

>>378192230
Has Occulus gone out of business yet? I appreciate what they did for getting the ball rolling and setting the stage for the vive, but fuck them.

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>>378192208
I bought a three-way junctions coming up.
My copy of Mortal Kombat for it would sometimes crash the system. Good times.

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>>378192560
>he isn't living a healthy life in an attempt to reach the singularity

Cmon man have goals.

>>378192591
What multiplayer games are you playing that use a crouch button in them? are you playing on an oculus? I use a vive and i have literally never had a crouch button, it has been an irl crouch 100% of the time and i have over 50 VR games.

>>378192596
Steam VR never asks for your height you dumbfuck, games do.

>>378192623
They're right on track.

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>>378183329

>>378192778
I never said there is a crouch button, I said the game lets you crouch IRL and registers it to actually make your character model crouching and giving you a speed debuff on the artificial movement.

>>378186319
Troll post
1/10 made me reply

>>378184161
except it's not making money for the Devs.
It's a notorious cash vampire for them

>>378192778
>Facebook pays 2 billion dollars for the rift
>Then another half a billion for the lawsuit
>Then fucks the device so that nobody wants to buy one

What did they even want with it in the first place? How were they imagining their VR expansion into social media would look like?

>>378191753
>reasonable complaints lol what a faggot

>>378192778
no your absolutely right, you dont set it up in the steamvr menu because steamvr takes its default settings from the software that came with the device itself, which you set up upon the first time you use it

>mfw all i had to do was copy and paste my older post

>>378192736
>tfw owned one of those
>tfw the best thing I had to "play" was Dragon's Lair, which was barely a game to begin with

>>378192902
Yeah but you also mentioned the game asking you for your crouch height. Does sairento do that? I've never seen a game ask me for the crouch height, it just decides it by my height.

>>378192990
Literally every industry is banking on VR hard right now and i'm pretty sure that's what ends up making shit like this successful. Well that and the constant social conditioning through media.

>>378192993
Guarantee they were wanting to create the new "AAA second life in VR".

They got beat with a lot of patents by the actual second life people so i think they are fucked in that arena.

>>378193082
Please stop posting, everyone is well aware that you're fucking retarded and 2poor 4VR now.

>>378192993
Like Snow Crash. Also "educational" software is the holy grail of brainwashing and perpetual State revenue.

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>>378183329

>>378193153
Yes Sairento has a calibration option for your crouch height.
like i said it's basically "stand straight irl and press button" - "now crouch down irl and press button"
That's how it gets your standing/crouching heights.

And many of those games that use a body holster inventory system even let you calibrate where those holsters are.

>>378193153
>the guy who set it up literally 4 hours ago, too poor to afford it
>backtracking from it never asks you, to it does, but not in steamvr
>not even knowing his own hardware, but saying the guy who has literally just set his up and knows more, dosent know

>man_shrugging_so_hard_he_breaks_both_fibulas.png.tiff

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>>378193359
>many of those games that use a body holster inventory system even let you calibrate where those holsters are

Too bad they're trash and always end up on the wrong side of your body in half the games because the devs are new as fuck.

>>378193450
Dude you post an astoundingly vast amount of nothing. Please suck on helium.

>>378193578
Can't say i ever had that problem before.
Like never - not even once.

>>378193578
>you dont know nothing about nuthin

lol. admittedly, yes, im still figuring out error 307 because like i said, 4 hours, havent had much time to mess with it, only played arizona a bit and they keep kicking my ass at the bridge over and over, where you get the second pkk/makarov handgun, but no, you obvsiously know more then i do because i didnt set it up 4 hours ago

>>378193735
Easy for you to prove me wrong then, post the screenshot of steam VR asking for your height.

>>378193697
It's rarely a "problem" it's just obnoxious when you're crouching in corners and your belt is the wrong way. Happens in pavlov a lot.

>>378193735
>getting ass kicked by arizona
Protip: Aim pistol with both hands.
That game basically asks you to headshot everything, cause scarce ammo pickups.

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>>378193735
>only played arizona a bit and they keep kicking my ass at the bridge over and over, where you get the second pkk/makarov handgun

Big surprise the manlet gets eaten like a bitch early on in the zombie apocolypse.

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>>378193865
>literally tell him it dosent because it asks for you before you set up steamvr
>mention error 307, an error meaning you cant start/use steamvr, so its not even possible steamvr asked me that because i cant even use it yet
>SO POST AN IMAGE OF STEAMVR ASKING YOUR HEIGHT

i admit, i am completely fucking baffled right now

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>>378194207
>literally tell him it dosent because it asks for you before you set up steamvr

I know, i said to post the screen where it asks. You can re-do the set-up.

>mention error 307, an error meaning you cant start/use steamvr, so its not even possible steamvr asked me that because i cant even use it yet

>he isn't even using steamVR, the program i have been talking about the entire time

Stupid fucking viveport user, as expected.

>i admit, i am completely fucking baffled right now

It's okay, niggers and manlets are usually fucking idiots and you're both of them. I can't imagine the pressures you're under.

>>378194207
The only time I had problem with error 307 was when one of the lighthouses didn't want to connect.
Got easily fixed by updating the firmware of all the components.

>>378194353
we never were talking about that, at all, this entire time. every post ive made has specified this. its like me asking if sheep are furry, its got literally fucking nothing to do with what the topic was.
>Stupid fucking viveport user
lol, vive is supported out of the box, its the oc rift that requires you to go into the setting and allow thirdparty stuff. hint hint cough
>im from /pol/
im so sorry

>>378194415
>one of my base stations wouldn't connect after i spent forever setting everything up
>tried everything to fix it
>literally started crying on my floor contemplating suicide because i spent almost 1k on this shit
>turn off my computer while sperging out
>notice it is working while sitting at my desk dry heaving because of the stress
>literally all i had to do was restart my PC

H-heh we've all been there....right?

>>378194415
well, that was what was next on the checklist, since i only had a free 2.0 usb port for the first sensor, even tho it says use 3.0, but googling told me that using 3.0 for them can also be an issue. i just havent had a chance to mess with it much yet, too busy. not to mention my desks 12x4 feet so crawling behind its a fucking nightmare. im sure ill figure it out, just decided fuck it and just got arizona to atleast experience a bit of it

>>378194578
Ehhhh... no....
But my autism forced me to spend 4 hours to update everything until i got the lighthouses to do the auto standby again.
I don't know what bricked it, but probably some steamvr update that needed new firmware.
Made me go nuts, because i can actually hear those things when there is no other noise in the room, faintly but i hear them.

>>378194626
Do you use Rift or Vive?

>>378194849
i unplug them when i'm done using them every time because i have bad experiences with motors in electronics breaking after moderate use.

>>378194849
rift. had a dev kit of the second generation and never used it, and then suddenly got my hands on a brand new one with the hand thingies. shits pretty neat so far. any ideas? the error code is so vague, and ive reading stuff like having screens that use both hdmi and...uh, cant remeber the other port name is an issue, so disconnected 2 of my screens. just going through the list of fixes.
pretttty fucking sure ill just replug a single thing into a different port and bam itll work, that sorta minor shit

>>378194974
There is an option that makes them turn off automatically. No reason to unplug them.

>>378195026
Just remember that the Rift loves to have the rift store running in the background for whatever it wants to do.
It basically will shut you out of playing your games when the riftstore isn't running.

>>378195026
also is it the guy who plays trevor thats the voice of the singleplayer protag in arizona? it sounds like him

>>378195030
yeah, but hes probably thinking surges or something, since it can still be damaged if power blasts into it

>>378195030
Tried it and it doesn't even work. No idea why. I may try it again now that you mention it.

>>378195026
I'm not sure whether i'm mad that you decided to not mention you were using a rift during our argument about the vive or impressed at how well you did it.

>>378195124
Bingo. I live in an area with shit infrastructure and i don't want to deal with mower strips on all of my outlets. Unplugging them is cheaper and easier.

>>378195106
I installed it to use ReVive and it opens literally every single time i try to open a game in VR. It drove me fucking crazy so i uninstalled it and started pirating their games instead.

>>378195106
yeah, i know, but i dont think thats the issue. its asking me to restart the compisitor and when i do nothing happens. just gotta dick around with it more. its even showing the empty grid room and saying "its taking a while, check outside of the goggles to see if an issue needs attention". just dosent start.

>>378195272
>I'm not sure whether i'm mad that you decided to not mention you were using a rift during our argument about the vive or impressed at how well you did it.
heh, skills to pay the bills
>yfw shitposting eachother so hard we become reasonable again

>>378195345
I'm a fan of when that happens.

Have you tried a vive? could you compare the visuals on them? i hear the oculus has less SDE but text is still shit to read.

>>378195272
You need to update the firmware in those things for it to work properly.
Had some hassle with it, but autostandby is working without a problem for months now for me.

Revive auto opens the riftstore because the riftstore running is needed for its drm.
The games you bought in rift won't start without it running - facebook shenannigans probably.

>>378195276
Did you do the room setup in the riftstore first?
Well my only experience with the rift is that I tried one.

>>378195442
I tried both and there is close to no difference in the image quality - if there is it's very minor.
Text readability greatly improves in higher pixel density settings in both of them.

>>378195442
Nope, and yeah, text is a bit iffy. What do you mean by SDE? I'll be back near the rift in about 20 mins so I can check whatever that is. Also, it feels like the minimum lense distance ( 59 mm ) is borderline just not small enough for me, anyone else seem to have this issue?

>>378195854
>anyone else seem to have this issue?
Yeah my vive doesn't go below 60.9 or something and it feels UST barely off. It's not a huge issue though. SDE is the screen door effect, the black lines between pixels you can see if you look close enough. I just wanted to know because i read e-books in VR a lot while smoking my pipe and it's hard to read unless i turn the font WAY up.

What has more pathetic shills: Star Citizen or VR?

>>378180836
joke's on you, AC7 is never coming out so I will never buy a headset

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The real mystery here is why /v/ thinks things that don't or can't go mainstream are bad. Have you seen this board recently? We're the cheerleaders of everything non-mainstream. Sure, VR is probably never going to get big enough for your mom to check it out (no, your fucking phone doesn't count). However, the community will stay small and close-knit and everyone involved will genuinely enjoy the technology and want to share with each other?

Did you want this to turn into League of Legends where you're playing every game with three toddlers and your friend's dad?

>>378195763
Yeah did set up but I guess I'll do it again just to be sure

I bought hot dogs and hand grenades before even realizing you needed a steam set up, the gun boner was too extreme to ignore. Even if it's a gallery shooter at best I'm fuggin hype

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>>378196010
No idea but the ones up-selling your mom are doing a great job bringing in the customers.

>>378196063
Vr should remain a toy for the rich and every future game should launch with cross-platform play so the rich can use their superior motion tracking to sexually assault the poor players.

>>378195995
Well, I can definitely see the screen door, but my only other experience was the dev kit 2 and that was waaaaay worse. I don't notice it when shooting stuff but that's all I've tried as of yet

>>378196110
>Even if it's a gallery shooter at best I'm fuggin hype

The dev is a total fucking bro and the game is regularly updated with new guns, game modes, and bug fixes. It's one of the safer VR purchases.

>>378196179
Even if I think vr is great I feel like it's gonna be like a steering wheel. For niche fans of specific genres. It won't get big but it won't really die either like racing sims

>>378195854
Vive only goes down to 60.7 for me - but for me that's no problem because I usually use between 67-69. Actually depends on the game and if i wear glasses or not.

>>378195995
What Pixel density are you running?

>>378184186
RE7

inb4 that autist complains that it's a "last gen VR game"

I'm enjoying it. There's not a high volume of games, but the games that are there are all really arcadey and remind me of, well, an arcade.

plus tabletop sim in VR is the bees knees.

>>378196417
I complain that they still haven't unlocked the VR for PC.
But if they don't put it motion controls I probably pass on RE7 until it's dirt cheap.

>>378196368
>What Pixel density are you running?
I thought the pixel density was a hardware statistic? Are you talking about supersampling? I use 1.8 for reading but i have to keep it on 1.2 or 1.4 at most for games because i'm still using a 980.

>>378196364
The "niche" for VR is shooting games and RPGs. I think Vr will do fine.

>>378196504
>plus tabletop sim in VR is the bees knees.
>playing yu-gi-oh in VR after having not played it since childhood

I had the biggest nostolgiagasm. I had to mute myself to nerd out at the in-game cards being perfect and having fantastic resolution.

>>378196543
Most games have 2 basic VR quality options - Pixel density and Supersampling.
They aren't the same.
Pixeldensity is what you want to crank up to battle screendoor effect and blurry text.

>>378196537
I don't think it will be. There's a number of reasons I can think of as to why:

>motion controls encourage standing up more than a gamepad, and it's a horror game, which increases the chances of people hurting themselves
>the engine was already built for the gamepad in mind, aiming is tied to the head
>game would be piss easy then (it's already easy)
>still incredibly fun even without motion controls

>>378196638
>Pixeldensity is what you want to crank up to battle screendoor effect and blurry text.
Please tell me where i can find this setting because i was 100% sure that was a hardware limitation.

>>378196621
That and munchkin were huge for me, and I'm also DMing a D&D game with an old crew I used to play with. None of them have VR and I'm just fucking demolishing their pieces and markers when they die. It's fun stuff. Little things are really making it that much more enjoyable.

Also i'm glad I went with the rift, now that the touch controllers are out. oculus store is gay but there are still plenty of games that work on steam with OR.

>>378196537
>But if they don't put it motion controls I probably pass on RE7 until it's dirt cheap.

This. Motion controls are fucking GOAT with good tracking in 3D space. Fuck people who compare it to wii wagglan.

>>378196795
>and I'm also DMing a D&D game with an old crew I used to play with

I wish i could get together a group that would actually play and roleplay instead of troll and fuck everything up 100% of the time.

>>378196753
It should be in the videooptions of the game.
Just checked and roborecall for example has it, as do ED, Sairento and Bigscreen.
And that are only the titles where I'm 100% sure.

>>378183329
>harada delayed tekken for this trash
fuck him and fuck VR

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>>378197151
>your mom delayed her abortion for you
Fuck her and fuck you.

>>378188482
>where you have to teleport around to move
>>378182096
>Press to teleport to desired stationary shooting location.
Talk about ignorant /v/tards.

RE7
Batlezone VR
Super Stardust Ultra VR
Farpoint
Robinson: the journey
Eagle flight
Eve: Valkyrie
Smooth movement games from the top of my head.

>>378182096
There is no other way around. Either this, or motion sickness from moving your head with both headtracker and directional controls.

>>378198003
Motion sickness is a bad meme - It isn't even 1/10 as bad as anyone makes it sound.
Devs should just give people the option to either teleport or having more motion sickness inducing methods of movement.

>>378191753
Amazing to see how hard they try to avoid the cognitive dissonance of buyer's remorse.

>>378189996
>shooter
>VR
This meme needs to die. Why every "vr shooter" looks like unity garbage with horrible clipping, bad model and texture quality, placeholder animations and junky action? VR is not made for your casual trash, faggots. Stop trying to bring your shitty games into VR. It's 100 times worse than trying to play a shooter on a console. In the end it just looks fucking pathetic.

>>378198423
Everyone wants to get in on the next gold rush, because competing in existing spaces is too hard.

>>378198216
3D is a bad meme. Call me back when you look at actual 3d screen and not a flat monitor strapped to the face. Motion sickness is confirmed even for hundreds of thousands $ military grade flight simulator equipment for pilot training. Military pilots were prohibited to drive cars for hours after vr session because of this shit, talk about an average /v/irgin.

>>378198837
>Actual 3d screen
wat? You really sure you know how these things work, anon?

>>378199034
Yes, I want it to work like a mirror works, for example, or hologram. Not a flat screen that reconstructs a completely flat image on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7BP00LuA4

you'd need to hack your vestibular system to get around motion sickness

>>378199370
That's nice and all, but would literally do nothing for VR since there is no depth perception with only one eye.
So putting a holoscreen before one eye would be useless, you'd need to plaster the wolls of an entire room with that at best - and than those facescreen sound pretty practical.

>>378199475
You can just train it, or do you still get sick from car rides?

>>378199370
This wouldn't work, at all. Not for VR. It would make you sick in an instant. The way they handle depth perception is the rendered image on the display is technically rotoscoped. Each eye renders the same image but an offset is applied depending on your IPD. This offset creates depth.

You can see this offset yourself without a VR headset, it's the same way human eyes work.

Can someone pls tell me the best ways to watch vr pron with the psvr

>>378198003

I played TF2 MGE duel with the fucking meme Oculus without getting motion sickness stop repeating dumb fucking borrowed """""""Opinions""""""""""

>>378199586
>there is no depth perception with only one eye
Lol what? How do fucking birds work, if they have eyes on the different side of the head? It's called accommodation and it is one of the main mechanisms of depth perception.

>You can just train it, or do you still get sick from car rides?
During car rides you have inertia forces giving feedback for your vestibular system. In VR you are "moving" while staying still. It's still works okay with vehicle simulation games, since you are supposed to be stationary in your cockpit, but for everything else it's just shit. That's why VR is suitable only for plane/car or mecha sims, but retarded marketers try to push it everywhere else. Stationary shooting games like firing ranges are an exception.

>>378180836
The problem isn't VR is "absolutely TRASH", it's that it isn't worth the money for a good VR headset---not to mention it still has quite a ways to go before it warrants being a "must purchase" item.

I'm not a poorfag, but there are many other things I'd rather spend my money on than VR. I could buy it for porn alone, but I could also buy a hooker. I'm sure fleshlights are awesome, but it's hard for me to spend money on anything that relates to porn and/or jerking off.

>>378184529
>AMA

get the Fuck outta here

>>378200038
>b-but it works for me
>b-but it's not as bad as everyone says
Every thread, same excuses. Also nice """""opinion""""" from you too.

>>378200114
HHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW YOU'RE AKCTUALLY GONNA GIVE A FUCKING BIRD ANOLOGY?!

NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER

>>378199624
I'm not talking about an offset. Proper hologram can have multiple focal points, unlike 2d screen, because it reconstructs light beams from with all different angles. In VR you only see that offset, but not the depth.

>>378200114
>Accomodation
Again I have to ask you if you are really sure how these things work, anon.

>That second thing
That doesn't change the fact that after a little training most people will be effected significantly less by motion sickness in VR

What is this, the great pseudoscience shitpost bonanza?

adaptation to particular simulations can occur with most people, but or some they never adapt, and the rate of adaptation varies when adaptation is possible. adaptation in this case entails experiencing the symptoms of sickness, which in the context of a video game means playing a game to make you feel bad. you also have to adapt to the particular simulations, and if you spend any significant amount of time away from the simulation, then you will have to adapt all over again. this is also complicated by how similar the simulation experience is to real world experiences that you have, with increased real world experience increasing the effects of sickness, since you have adapted to the real system and the simulation is wrong.

>>378200619
>Again I have to ask you if you are really sure how these things work, anon.
Or maybe you will just educate yourself first?
https://vrwiki.wikispaces.com/Vergence%E2%80%93accommodation+conflict

>after a little training
Yeah, trained military pilots thought that too.

>>378189653
what a retard

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>>378200737
and...they got over it, before even getting into a real jet fighter. you think they are gonna let someone who gets motion sickness pilot a fucking million dolla plus jet?

wew, lad. these are the people who get motion sickness reading their phone in the car. anyone remember that? people getting sick reading books in the car? how that completely fucking disappeared when people started doing it all the fucking time because of phones?

people with a lot of actual flight experience are more likely to suffer the effects of sickness from a simulation

>>378200971
>>378200229

btw some people wash out of flight training because they can't adapt to real motion sickness, let alone simulator sickness

>>378200737
You really sure, you 100% understand what stands in the link you just posted, that you think a holoscreen would change that?

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>>378201182
>motion sickness isnt something you get over quickly
>millions and even billions of people proving this isnt valid
people used to get motion sickness playing videogames. if you STILL get motion sickness, to this day, it just means one thing: genetically inferior.

>>378201393
Yes, they are also called 4d screens sometimes.

>When you are old enough to remember the articles saying "Fast paced first person shooters will never leave it's niche market because a significant amount of people experience motion sickness playing them"
How right they were - hardly any FPS in this day and age.

>>378201425
>b-but it works for me
>b-but it's not as bad as everyone says
>b-but everyone pukes first time, be a man, you'll get used to it
Not sure if trolling or just retarded.

the u.s. military has spent decades studying sickness caused by simulations but here is my stupid reaction image dot jpeg

>>378201642
>ignorant fuck oblivious to everything but his cherry picked problems complains about trolling
lel

>>378201729
>fundamental problem of having a flat screen + absence of inertia
>cherry picking
Are you even trying anymore?

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>>378201642
>b-but it works for literally billions of people
>b-but literally billions of people say its not that bad
>b-but everyone used to get motion sickness 10 years ago
Not sure if trolling or just retarded

>>378201573
But they won't solve that problem... like at all.
Please get your basics right.

>>378201859
Yes, they will only fix the depth perception. Still a great improvement.

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>>378201808
>fundamental problem of having a flat screen + absence of inertia
>he says while literally doing this literally every single time he plays a videogame

your monitor simply does not encompass enough of your field of view to induce the effects

you should also recognize that this also reduces the effects in proper simulators where you have stationary visual artifacts and simulations in which motion is projected upon your entire visual field
so more people experience sickness in an imax theatre than people that watch television from across the room

"and simulations" should be "as opposed to simulations"
also age, gender, and ethnicity play a role in susceptibility

>>378202175
>>he says while literally doing this literally every single time he plays a videogame
WOW! Maybe it's because they are like NOT 3D? Huh?
Fucking retards.

Why am I even argueing against the motion sickness stuff.
Thinking I am better than most US jet pilots because I have the superpower to not feel motion sick after a few hours of training even under fast artificial movement without screencage sound much better.
Thanks anon!

>>378191847
wtf it a 60$ game

>>378202826
>3d videogames are not 3d

you are arguing because you want to be an early adopter of the next big thing and any obstacles to this (say, people experiencing discomfort while doing something ostensibly meant to be enjoyable) threatens the possibility
also because not since apple zealots used to go around pretending their substandard hardware running an operating system capable of pre-emptive multitasking has their been a pack of techfags as irritating as vr fanatics

that should read not capable

Nah I'm argueing because i really enjoy VR and want more of it, since there are a few billion people around there have to be some who share this enjoyment.
And I'm not even regretting early adopting, since I had a quite a few fun VR evening with my friends since them - felt like having the only TV in the street in the 50s.
But hey, deliberately talking something to shit must be much better, right?

me, an idiot: research indicates this
you, a scholar: works on my laptop

>>378197839
the first 2 serious sam games got ported to VR and you don't need to teleport.

pretty sure the military has a trash R&D department. Fuckers don't make shit.

>>378202991
>paintings are 3d
>photos are 3d

>>378203574
yes

yes the people that spent all of that money developing simulators and studying their effects so they could adequately train people to use their incredibly expensive death machines are pretty dumb

>>378203748
The amount of money invested says nothing about the reasonability of the project.

>>378204068
Because $600 garbage hardware is somehow better.

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>>378204230
It's actually better than this for example.

the resources expended are simply a proxy for the degree of seriousness with which the interested party views the subject

>>378188482
I'd pick the mobile games so I could phone for help

>>378204531
Satellite phones don't have games.

>>378180836
I got a gear vr and everything looks so fucking ugly. Is it the same for the oculus and vive?

>>378205956
How does D44M look on your phone?

>>378205956
I haven't tried gear vr but given that it costs 50 dollars to vive's 800, I'd guess that it looks much worse. Vive is a little pixel-y, but it's nothing to cry over. The only time I really noticed was when I was trying to read text.

it only took 1 game to make VR worth it for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkDrMbQhh3Y&t

its fucking awesome, takes milsim to an entirely different level, you have to perform every single action yourself so if you want to use your radio you actually have to reach for it, if you want to reload that M249, you actually have to pull out the box mag, put in a new one, drag in the belt into the feed, close the feed and get back on target

What "amazing" experiences does VR have to offer, from user experiences here on /v. I've never tried one, but money isn't an issue, I just legit haven't seen much that would entice me to buy it. and I sure as hell usually buy silly shit.

I'll get VR when it's legit good and the porn advances to take advantage of it.

>>378206454
see
>>378206369

most interesting stuff starts at 2:05. environments look potato but its immersive as fuck. after getting pinned down by a machine gun and dying I put the headset down and found that my hand was fucking shaking.

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>>378206454
It's hard to explain but seeing things in real size is a mind blowing experience. The thing that really blew me away was The Lab; seeing ATLAS stagger out and realizing just how fucking huge he really is hit me hard, and then GLaDOS drops down and her face plate alone is six feet tall and the rest of her stretches out into the distance- I was intimidated in a way that I was not at all expecting. VR gives a sense of proportion and scale that nothing else can match. Technically, a cave troll in a LoTR film is 20 feet tall when you see it in on a theater screen- but it's a different thing when a cave troll is standing in front of you and swinging its club and marching toward you and you have to look up because the fucker is 20 goddamn feet tall. Playing HL2 and moving across the bridge is tense when its on a computer screen, but it's fucking heart stoppingly horrifying when you're actually looking down and seeing a 100 foot drop underneath the spindly little support beam you're standing on.

>>378183878
I run mine on a regular clocked 970. Like, every game I've runs fine, even the higher end graphics ones like Arkham VR.

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>>378184650
Fuck the Vive shills, the controllers are ass. Get the Rift with Touch controllers, they are way fucking better and worth getting a Rift over a Vive alone. Also, it is cheaper and comes with better games natively.

Don't you need a beefy PC to run VR games? I have no idea why they're so taxing on your system.

>>378207665
maybe because you have to render the game twice at 90fps

>>378207446
They really don't... yeah i know, it's still fine but ultimately your experience suffers because you can't crank up video settings.
Try to look at 1.8 pixel density setting with 1.2 supersampling - it will be a slide show for you but the image quality will be worlds apart from the default quality you are gaming with atm.

>>378207665
Because you're running two displays at a high resolution (people only complain about it being "low resolution" because it's an inch from your eyes, it's actually quite high compared to a standard non-4K monitor), and you have to run it at 90FPS. There's also a bunch of post processing that you must do to warp the image so that when it's warped by the lenses it'll look normal, although that's negligible compared to the other shit.

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>>378184971
Vive sucks, I own an Oculus and the Vive controllers are absolutely ass compared to the ergonomic pleasure handles that are the Touch controls. That alone is a definitive case for the Rift over the Vive. 20g of pressure for holding items on the Touch controllers vs 180g of pressure to grip items on the Vive controllers. Yeah, so completely ass that game developers switch the grip to the trigger buttons on a lot of games because Vive owners cant hold down the grip button for any extended period of time. Fucking dumb.

>>378207924
There is this strange concept in vidya that was quite famous long ago - it's called "customisable control schemes" I wonder why most devs can't remember that.

I dunno, VR superhot looked pretty fun
https://youtu.be/aRwgmjn-8mE
https://youtu.be/exzNykYDGGU

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>lololol i'm 12 and motion sickness is a meme

Sadly it's not. Our inner ear, our balance "system" is literally our sixth sense.

Wait until you inner ear fails you, even temporary (which WILL happen during your lifetime, be convinced of it) and then you will realize the absolute importance of it. Life with an unresponsive inner ear is absolute hell.

To get back to motion sickness it happens because of the conflict between what you see and what you feel. Brain / inner ear / eyes conflict. It's basically the same thing when you're in a stopped train, and another train on the tracks next to you starts moving, you don't know if it's you moving or the other train, and you get dizzy quickly.

Same thing with VR. People arguing about not feeling it are liars, and even then they're just moving goalposts. VR in it's current state is absolute trash.