Things have gotten better.

>>378180424
At least Sonic 06 didn't have OCs.

>>378180424
Mania is the only good thing on that list
Forces looks like trash and I doubt we'll have a final boss that tops the Biolizard or Chaos

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>>378181008
>Silver
>Elise

>>378181008
>>378181194
Explain to me what's wrong with OCs without resorting to
>coldsteel
>sonichu/chrischan
>devianart in general

>20th anniversary
>Sonic 4 shit physics
>Sonic Generations shit physics
God damn it.

>>378181319
We have plenty of sonic characters as is
I wanna see my boy Snively fuck shit up

>>378181469
I honestly forgot Sonic 4 existed. I liked Generations fine, but for some reason thought it was the only 20th anniversary game.

God I had forgot about that GBA port of Sonic 1, 14 year old me was looking forward to it and when I got it I was so fucking disappointed.

I still can't believe they could fuck up a port of Sonic 1 that badly.

>>378181926
They just tried to shove it onto the GBA without optimizing it like at all. I remember a homebrew that made a working genesis era sonic engine for gba so it was possible to make it work but Sega just didn't fucking care back then.

>>378181319
I fully agree with this >>378181558
I miss characters that arent Sonic/Eggman/Tails

>>378182315
>sega just didn't fucking care back then
that implies they care now

>>378182557
I don't think Sonic Mania would exist if they didn't care to some extent

>>378181319
I don't mind OC's but there are already enough as is and SEGA/Sonic Team doesn't have any idea about what to do with all the characters they have.

>>378182557
Having been around during the 00's I can tell you that whatever you think of Sega now, it was a thousand times worse back then.

>>378181558
>Snively
You can keep those comic/cartoon faggots out the games.

>>378181558
Snively is about as likely to show up in upcoming sonic games as captain lou albano is to reprise his role as mario.

>>378183590
Snively is the only acceptable comic character
He deserves to be in the main games

>>378181558
No point, Orbot and Cubot are already established as his right-hand men. Game Eggman really doesn't need another yet another Starscream on his team.

Just let me play as Shadow and Blaze again.

>>378180424
I can honestly say that things have improved for the franchise in the past 10 years.

>>378183906
There is no Starscream right now

>>378183723
Fuck off. Let him die with that cancerous comic. We have those two robots, no need to bloat the games with redundant characters, and that IS saying something.

>>378184120
Snively would kick ass AND be a rapist
how the fuck could you not want that

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>Mania
>Reusing old stages because of fucking moron executives at Sega
>Forces
>Bringing back fucking Wisps
The series is in a sad state when this is legit the best we are getting in over half a decade

>>378184582
>>Mania
>>Reusing old stages because of fucking moron executives at Sega
There's no way Mania isn't getting a sequel, and it's been AGES since we've have a Genesis-physics 2D game, so I'm okay with them playing it relatively safe. I just hope the sequel gets to be completely original assuming SEGA of Japan doesn't fucking shit the bed and drop Taxman's team out of jealousy/Japanese pride.

Wisps and Classic Sonic in 3D games are seriously cancers on the series now.

>>378184582
To be honest Wisps aren't really that big of a problem. Heck back in Colors there were a lot of stages where you didn't really need to use Wisps to clear them. They just gave different ways to go through stages.

Lost World on the other hand was bad with how they used wisps, they just felt shoehorned in at most parts and were only enjoyable to use in a few intervals.

>>378184406
Will he benefit the gameplay or the story? Pick one.

>>378184886
Story obviously
I want to see Mike Pollock and Charlie Adler kick some ass

>>378181558
>We have plenty of sonic characters as is
Whats wrong with more cheerleaders?
I would love to hear Custom the Character yell at sonic to perform a homing attack!

>>378180424
that Mania looks solid

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>>378184968
We need good games and good gameplay, story is the last that Sonic games need. Fuck right off back to /acg/, Archiefag.

>>378183082
what about Sonic Mania and advance series?

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>>378180424
Will the OC have a super form? I can't see them breaking the rule of only allowing male Hedgehogs to go Super with the Chaos Emeralds.

>>378185128
How the fuck would Eggman or Snively make the gameplay bettter

>>378181469

>MUH BOUNCE JUMP

fuck off

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>>378180424
It'll probably end up being better than the 20th anniversary due to mania alone.

>>378185204
They'll probably either get a Super Wispon or just utilize Final Color Blaster

>>378185251
Exactly my point, we don't need frivolous shit that eats up dev time spent refining the gameplay, THE most important part of a game.

>>378185128
since they decided to give SOnic a voice and make stories more elaborate with Adventure, the series started to suck dick

Sonic Team still thinks they have ANY writing talent to this day, it's like watching a trainwreck about to happen with every release

>>378185713
So whats the point of having eggman?
He doesnt contribute to the gameplay
Neither do any other characters who arent Sonic and Classic

>>378185350
>liking to walk on walls

>>378185806
He's the antagonist. The one you fight in each fucking level. You can have multiple characters and not have a story, or you can do what Sonic 3 did and tell the story via level transition at the end of a boss fight. We have enough game characters that we don't need any of the comic characters period. Their roles are already filled.

>>378185806
>He doesnt contribute to the gameplay
>Neither do any other characters who arent Sonic and Classic
>Tails' flight
>Blaze's hover/double jump
>Shadow's Chaos abilities

Getting the guys that made the closest facsimile of the original physics engine to create an official new 2D game and getting the Generations guys to make what basically is Generations 2: OC Creator Edition are good moves. Sega have kept saying they really want to up their game in the next 5 years so this looks like a start, alongside getting Bayonetta 1 and Vanquish on PC.

>>378186206
RECENT games

>>378185204
I hope because he/she seems to be tech based they get a mech or something.

>>378186561
>Boss before final boss
>CYCLONE ENGAGE

how would you feel?

>>378186678
Pretty hype my dude.

>>378183082
I'm fucking dying of laughter
Post more EEnE edits please

>>378186206
I miss other characters

>Fanboys ask for Sonic Generations 2
>Sega gives them one
>Fanboys whine about OC creation and Wisps

Sonic fanboys are like SJWs: They will never be pleased even when you give them stuff they ask for.

>>378188298
You are aware that Generations 2 has nothing to do with OCs and wisps right?

Wisps were in generations once.

>>378183082
I was saying fuuhhck to each of these
good post

>>378188298
>Fanboys whine about [shit that wasn't or was hardly in Generations]

Go figure

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>>378183082
10/10

>>378181319
You're forced to make your fursona and play a third shitty gameplay style. What does this mean? Less levels for the regular sonics.

>>378180424
It's not a high bar to pass.
That said, Mania looks great and I'm cautiously optimistic about Forces.

>>378182315
>I remember a homebrew that made a working genesis era sonic engine for gba so it was possible to make it work but Sega just didn't fucking care back then.
Yes and now he's working on Mania.

>>378188298
I'm willing to give it a chance. I liked Xenoverse.

>>378188550
>Implying that OC creation and Wisps are a bad thing

>>378189083
After Colors, Wisps have felt nothing but shoehorned into things. They were shoehorned into Generations Planet Wisp, shoehorned into Lost World and now shoehorned into Forces.

>>378188432
>Wisps were in generations once.
To be fair, Planet Wisp was the worst zone in Generations

>>378189178
>They were shoehorned into Generations Planet Wisp
Planet Wisp sucked, but how did they feel shoehorned?

>>378189407
Cause no other level had them. They were just in there because it's the Colors level, but they added nothing.

>>378189529
It's as shoehorned as the skating in the Generations City Escape level. The wisps fit planet wisp.

Lost World they were definitely shoehorned though, and probably are for Forces too.

>>378188723

Buddy's levels are more or less remixes of Modern and presumably Classic's stages, like the side missions from Generations.

>>378189529
>They were just in there because it's the Colors level
But that's a perfectly fine reason to include them.

>>378181008
>Silver
>ANY OTHER FRIEND

>>378181319
I just think it looks fucking stupid in a series with established characters to suddenly have something the artists didnt design specifically. This is what I would say in Mario or something, but Sonic's art design is so tonally fucked it doesnt even matter anymore.

>>378190017
It's Sonic with guns and other such tech instead of homing attacking, but he's whatever species you want him to be.
I wanna make a spess marine bear.

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Hyped for Mania, hyped for Forces[/spoiler]' music.[/spoiler] Despite the gimped Classic Sonic gameplay and overwhelming amount of 2D, Forces doesn't look too bad. Unfortunately, it doesn't look as though it's improved much from Colors or Generations though.

>>378180424
it had a great 10th though

>>378190218

Buddy can homing attack too.

I remember when everyone told me Sonic CD was incredible so I need to check it out. Found an insanely rewarding and difficult platformer...that only lasted like two or three hours. Ive replayed it a lot and yet only have 9 hours. I want to be hype for Sonic Mania but why bother with so much excitement for such a small game

>>378190271
Adventure 2? Or was Advance also a part of that?

>>378190262
Forces having lyrics in the music reminds me of Sonic R which is cool.
I love how they seem to have actually got back the old Saturn-era artist that made all those colorful pictures for Mania, which I guess makes sense cause Mania is trying to be the lost 2D Saturn Sonic game that never happened.

>>378190405
Adventure 2 certainly promoted that, Advance probably too

>>378190298
Well shut my mouth then. Homing attacking and shooting people with guns. I wouldn't be surprised if you could turn Buddy into Shadow.

>>378190435
Apparently only some stage songs will have lyrics, but it's cool regardless. There should be an extended preview of Park Avenue's theme sometime before or around E3.

>>378190652
I hope so

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>>378180424
>things have gotten better
>sega LITERALLY said fuck it and let a goddamn modder make the game for them, highlighting how little they understand how to make good games anymore
>the AAA sonic game is basically a deviant art circle jerk

No, anon. Sega has gotten infinitely worse.

>>378190883
You just sound like you don't even like Sonic in the first place and just like to shitpost about it.

>>378190031
Yes but there was no real reason for them, Spikes is just a spin dash that lets you go over literal spikes and the forced use of Rocket made the levels very long and killed your momentum so you can watch yourself break through a floor it's like they intentionally padded the level to justify that little gimmick.

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>>378180424
>a Gameboy Advance Game came out 10 years ago
I don't know why, but that feels way too recent. Like the GBA was 20 years ago or some shit. And just earlier I was surprised to find out the PS4 is 3.5/4 years old. What the hell is happening the my perception of time?

>>378191191
Also doesn't help they made the music worse somehow when original Planet Wisp had great music.

>>378191191
They weren't done well, but there was a reason for them to be there, even if that reason was simple.

So apparently mania is coming out on august 15th in europe

Meaning america will probably get it a week or 2 before that

August is gonna be hype boys

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>>378183082
>06

>>378191495
>Crash remakes
>Splatoon 2
>Sonic Mania

Summer is nuts

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What cute concept art. It's like the guys in SoJ have no idea about the stigma towards fan characters.

>>378191495

There's no reason why it wouldn't be a global launch.

>>378191495
Still so far away though. Literally the only game I wanna actually get this year.

>>378191642

SoJ is in its own little bubble, basically.

>>378191709
iktfb

None of the shitty anime games on ps4 that have been coming out interest. I just want muh old 2D sonic and im so happy it exists. Best thing sega has done in a few years

>>378191709
It's certainly my most wanted. At least next to the Shovel Knight DLC which is free anyway.

>>378191642
They have a much more innocent look on it at least. Let them keep their purity. Let them continue to think it's just kids wanting to make a character that fights alongside Sonic.

>>378191709
>>378191850
This

It will be the first and maybe only game I buy this year

>>378191009
I loved sonic in the genesis era.

But his 3D entries have been a disaster.

>>378191709
Same since Automata already came out.

I just want another fucking adventure, is that so hard to ask? Literally just make multiple characters playable and throw in a Chao Garden and I'm happy! What the fuck have they been doing his whole time?! Making shit instead.

>>378192020
If you truly loved Genesis Sonic, you'd care about Mania.

>>378192020
Well Mania will for sure tide you over at least. Be happy they decided to enlist a modder that knows the classic physics engine better then anyone at Sega or in Sonic Team right now. He already remade Sonic 1, 2 and CD with better physics.

>>378192078
Same. Automata first and now the agonizing wait for Mania.

>>378192124
I think you missed his point.

>>378192020
The only 3D games i have liked is unleashed and adventure 1. Couldnt care any less for the others. I dont think they are all abysmal like a lot of underage game grumps watchers say, they are consistently 6-8 games, they're just not really for me.

>>378191194
As you get older, time goes by faster. What seemed like a long wait as a kid is easy to bear with as an adult.

>>378181319
"explain to me what's wrong with OCs without using the reasons as to what's wrong with OCs"

Where my Colors-is-better-than-Generations bros at?

I love Classic Sonic, but he was the lamest part of Generations. It would've been a 10/10 if all the levels featured only Modern Sonic.

Therefore Colors was superior, fite me.

>>378192583
I still enjoy popping Colors in and doing the mode that just stitches all the levels together with no cutscenes.

>>378192583
I agree, I liked Colors a fair bit more than Generations.

>>378192243
>I dont think they are all abysmal like a lot of underage game grumps watchers say, they are consistently 6-8 games, they're just not really for me.

Really wish there were more people like you out there. Instead of talking shit about the 3D games like a fucking idiot, just recognize that they aren't for you and everything will be all hunky-dory from there on honestly.

>>378190262
I want to at least see a full stage of Park Avenue for Modern Sonic and Hero so I can accurately see if there were improvements, at least from a level design aspect.

>>378185382
It sucks to know that Sega will take the wrong lessons from Mania, whether it succeeds or fail. They're just that kind of company.

But Mania is the S3+K follow up everyone has wanted, so I'm happy with that.

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This wasn't so bad.

>>378193380
Same, though I expect it to be more of the same. Also fuck, I just realized I fucked up on that spoiler.

I decided to go back and analyze the Modern Sonic gameplay from Forces and Compare it to the previous boost games, and from the looks of it, boost is going to be handled in the same way it was in Colors. The only way to fill up your boost meter is from either
a) White Wisp capsules
b) Defeating certain enemies (In colors not all enemies gave you more boost)

I noticed this when looking over the Forces gameplay due to the fact that there were no special particles coming from defeated enemies like in Generations that would signify that the boost gauge was filling up. Judging from that I guess the game might be getting balanced to keep you from just holding boost throughout the entire level.

>>378181008
>what is Mephiles

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>>378184582
While I would prefer only new stages & can understand the disappointment the remixed ones really aren't that bad to me. The new level design has been expanded upon a lot it looks like based on Green Hill & Flying Battery and Act.2 for Green Hill goes hell of a lot more out to be different with new mechanics, graphics and Act.2 music.

>>378194270
The fact that Act 2 seems to be the game changer with the nice Tee Lopes remix track definitely softens the blow.

>>378193581
It had some interesting ideas and I liked the bird themed new characters, but actually gitting gud at Riders is kinda difficult.

>>378193814
So it looks like Forces maybe a mix of the systems from Colors and Generations. Could either go great or kinda shitty.

>>378183082
sonic racing?

>>378184582
>Wisps is your problem with Forces

>>378194270
I hope the returning stages aren't limited to the genesis.
Seeing demakes of 3d stages would be fucking neat. Like a reverse Generations.

>>378194679
This is a Genesis/Mega Drive celebration so that won't happen probably. Also that would just make the amount of original stages even less.
I expect a level from 1, 2, CD, 3 and S&K. 1 already has Green Hill and S&K has Flying Battery.

>>378183082
What about Shadow the Hedgehog?

>>378193581

I liked the rubber band mechanic actually worked in the gameplay as a thing. First place would play cat and mouse with anyone riding their wake with traps and stuff. It just needed more polish and tracks.

>>378180424
i found it funny that sonic's 10th and 15th anniversary games showed attempts of fucking killing sonic in-game: one made us believe it was true, but for just one boss stage, and the other outright happened

>>378191927
>Let them continue to think it's just kids wanting to make a character that fights alongside Sonic.
kinda hard to believe that after seeing young adults in the 25th jap stream last year.

>>378195824
I didn't even think Sonic was ever that popular in Japan. It was always more of a European and American thing.

>>378195940
That's a fucking shame. Why don't nips like Sonic? He's cool as fuck and pretty likable as a character

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>>378195157

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>>378196070
magnificent

>>378195940
yeah they are pretty much a rare sight compared to american and european fans i think it's for the best

>>378193538
Feeling too much like CD. Has me worried. All the edits we've seen so far have only tacked unnecessary elements to zones like Green Hill that have muddied the aesthetic and disrupted the original zone's flow.

>>378196065
Eh, cultures

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>>378191642
This actually made me really sad
I wish I was a kid again

>>378196070
Perfect