>PCfags will defend this

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>Implying I will ever leave my lane for anything

>>378175690
FUNNY JOKE

>>378176020
fuck you m8

>>378175690
>not dotards
You had one job faggot

What are good tips for beginners? Should I play league of legends first?

>>378176846
LOL will teach you a lot of bad habits.

Be patient, try bots first, accept shit is clunky, use a hero with a stun at first, personally I would play a mage or someone like windrunner first because some strength hero is very boring if you try it out at first

>>378176932
Noobs have trouble last hitting with winderunner though

>>378176846
Pick Pudge as it will teach you about positioning, ward spots, and how to land skillshots.

Pudge is also the funnest hero.

>>378176846
You don't need to since both game will teach the basics. However, Dota2's tutorial is much better, but longer than LOL's. You can just poke your head into the tutorial until your feel comfortable, then practice up on bots before the real deal.

>>378177017
I found windrunner to have a pretty reasonable attack animation, its decent range and the projectile flies at a good speed. Sure vengeful spirit has as snappier attack, but many more ranged heroes have worse missile attacks. On top of that learning the timing on your attack is easier to train on bots than reading the map and knowing when to fall back. WR her super speed, standard items and stun all mitigate dying to being stupid

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>>378176846
play a lot of bot games with easy heroes to learn skills, items etc. use the in-game guides for skill/item builds.

and remember: don't give up!

>>378177560
That's a cute character. I'm going to save it.

>>378175690
To the death

>>378177673
no problem! make sure to save the original filename to spread the happiness, though!

>>378176846
Play Heroes of the Storm
It's the least Reddit MOBA

>>378176846
There are in-game player guides you can use to show you what items to build and when and where to place your skill points, access them from a book icon on the top left.

>>378178131
>least reddit moba is the one that is intentionally made to try and be as much of a safespace as possible

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dumping

>>378176846
play against bots until you learn things like what items are and what a bunch of heroes do. As soon as you grasp the difference between supports/carry/mid/offlaners, and know the GENERAL idea of what items to buy for each, you're good to go into matchmaking. follow torte's item guides if you need to, or google "Welcome to dota, you suck"

the new compendium is so insulting jewish that I would consider the act of buying the level one version genuine insanity.

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>>378178297
Dotards are fucking cancer. They spout Twitch and Reddit memes in real life,
Fucking autismos. They're constantly talking about E-sports, the compendiums and tournaments, streamers, twitch memes, Reddit
It's disgusting. Lost a friend to this shit. I couldn't even get him to play other games like he used to. He only plays DotA.

>>378178297
But anon, don't you want to unlock stuff in Overwatch? :^)

>>378178608
Why do you say that? What's bad about it?

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>>378178582
>you will never play as banana venomancer again

>>378178830
Explain what this is.

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Its a bit late into the night to tell you about these memories now

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>>378179001
Why does every nyx build dagon? I understand it's a good for anyone who roams or ganks, but why is it THE ITEM to get on Nyx?

>>378179134
it's not THE item tho. it's shit

>>378179218
So why does everyone build it?

>>378179134
Because it does enough damage to finish people off with his combo solo.

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all out of 2x

>>378179241
because they're 1k shitters

T'WAS NOT LUCK, BUT SKILL

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that's it, time for lunch, bye folks

>>378179134
You just explained why. He's built to nuke mages faster than any other hero dragon is the best item to fit his set of skills. He is as his name implies, an assassin. Useful for making a fight 4 vs 4.5. Amd I say 4.5 because as after he nukes that's pretty much his usefulness to the team fight done.

>>378179716
>dragon

>>378175690
dude... lets defend the ancients man...

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>>378179503
>like to play jakiro but shit at game
>try to ward
>riki is always there to shag me
FUCKING STOP

>>378179569
> lunch

It's not lunch time in any timezone you degenerate faggot.

>>378178297
DOTA was casual shit to begin with.

>>378175690
League is better

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>>378175690
>mfw someone is posting my meme

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>>378180505
fuck off

>>378180573
at being worse ha got him

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>>378175690
I watched a video of one of these games. It seemed like a clusterfuck of slow moving units jogging back and forth while tons of particle effects sprinkled the screen. What's the appeal of this genre? Is it strategy? It can't be the combat because it looks just like controlling a single soldier of an rts, slapping each other over and over. Why are they so popular?

>>378181367
i hit my head on a rock and now i enjoy mobas and giving money to girls on twitch who play mobas

I've been free for 6 months.

Should I come back?

>>378181367
>watched a video

did you watch a video of pacman and tetris when they came out?

>>378181367
Maybe you should try it Mr Green Eggs and Ham

>>378181367
I washed a video of street fighter and it looked like they were just mashing their controllers while wobbling their sticks randomly

>tfw you will never blink+ult for $6 million dollars USD

>>378178376
Shame that allies generally are bitches who can't combo or teamfight for shit.
So you rarely get to just burn Fire Spirits + Deathbeam combined with a stun combo, dealing all their HP in damage and getting a ultrakill.

>>378175690
Good thing I'm not a PCfag, but a PC user then.
As you said, only fags play MOBA games.

>>378179134
You can't crit on Windwalk, so you can't get Crystalis for epic crits off Vendetta.

>>378179134
Veil is honestly better, but its nice because it makes you stay relevant far longer.

>>378177017
I have like 1000 hrs and i still cant last hit with drow before level 6. I do mostly play support though

>>378183106
all pc users inherently play mobas therefore they are inherently fags, nice try gayboy

>>378175690
Being playing "vydia" on PC for 30 years and I have no idea what the fuck that is.

>>378178912
Kotl is boring as fuck though. You have to be a senile old man irl to get any enjoyment out of him.

>>378176020
fpbp

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Oh hey guys, just mining the bottom lane while my mines stop your push of top and mid, is that cool?

Oh, and have 6 sec silence plust 700 damage.

methinks you wanted that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90fejwVz02g

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>has 6 slots in 25 minutes

>>378178678
But anon, every single ASSFAGGOTS player does that. Even HotSfags, SPECIALLY hotfags.

>>378179134
Situationally it's great.

Nyx has
>damage
>disables
>durability*
*durability is tied to uptime of Spike Carapace and whether or not enemies have spell immunity

Nyx needs
>mobility
>mana

After you solve those two issues there's very little to itemize around. Building damage on a core is a pretty natural turn of events. If a Nyx needs extra survivability they'll get a Linkens or Lotus. Ghost Scepter as well, but that's for the added benefit of turning into an Eblade later for more magic damage.

Nyx has generally poor stats and isn't particularly good at sticking on someone, so building him to right click is dumb.

>but I mean the people rushing dagon brown boots
Oh those guys are just bad.

>>378182062
>Implying I was born when that garbage came out
>>378182184
I have no interest in trying it, I just wanted to hear why other people liked it.

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I miss the old UI

>>378179484
Is that "has pwned XXXs head" still in the game?

>he doesn't know about the 3rd ancient
NIGGA

>>378184810
I dont, it was atrocious compared to the new one

>>378184852
Go away slacks.

>>378184817
Of course

>>378184907
The new one was aids.
The revised new one is functional but boring as fuck to look at.

>>378185003
To be fair some of the shit he says does make some sense.
Most of it is complete bullshit and stretching facts, but some is nice.

>>378185051
I disagree, the one we have no is far better to look at than the old one, even the HUDS on the new UI look better

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>>378181367
>why is a casual game with skinner box elements popular

gee it's the world's greatest mystery we will never know

>>378184595
i wish i was better at meepo desu

>>378183775
T.shitterthatneverplayedkotl

The enjoyment from kotl is the lament of your foes as you ravage their mana pools forcing them buy magnos and claritys or waste shrine especially when poking the shit outta them for freeeeeeeeeee with your Q. Even if you dont hit them with q they are so busy dodging shit tit fucks up last hitting.

>>378185364
Just learn how to press tab+w repeteatedly, when to initiate, when to gank at early levels, how to play as a jungler or solo hard, when to split farm, how to blink poof, how to keep everyone in the net and cry about net being nerfed to shit against channeling spells

>>378185694
>not destroying lanes with your Q, getting shadowblade, dagon and aghs then blaming your carries when you lose

learn to play kotl dude

>>378186007
I have not reached that level of degeneracy yet

please tech me senpai

>>378185896
I can do the poofs, I can blink poof, and I can keep people in nets. Its the tactics like ganking and farming and stuff that I'm kinda lazy to learn as Meepo.

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>>378185137
>Better
>Skins doesn't change clock anymore

>>378186007
>not playing full int shazzle my dazzle

>>378184236
>Just mining my own business
I hate techies.

>>378176846
DOTA and LoL are only similar at a very basic level. Same idea(s), different execution.
Ultimately LoL feels a lot faster paced for a multitude of reasons, but DOTA has stronger macro play.

>>378176020
Well played. I hate you so much.

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>>378175690

>eyyy boy do you want hurt me?

>>378183380
I don't play DoTA, DoTA2, LoL, Overwatch, Paladin that other FPS MOBA.
But nice try faggot.

>>378187729
>play against him early game
>doesn't die while being punched in the face
>play as him early game
>dies from my own fart

>>378188453
If you play games on the PC then you play all of those games, keep trying buddy

>>378176846
What I did is just dive in to a real 5v5 game with no prior knowledge and just dick around. Then I would look up a guide for the hero I just played, learn about the spells, its counters, how to play it, and what items to get. Then try to follow the guide. If I get bored, I would just pick a new hero and repeat the process.

After 100 games, I would have a grasp of about 40 heroes, most of the items, and the basic strategies of the game.

>>378175690
>PCfags
No we won't, only ASSFAGGOTS will defend that shit.

>>378176846
play riki. its relatively easy and fucking fun

>>378189192
Your sentense doesn't make any sense. Don't use the terms you don't even understand, retard.

>>378176846
Don't play either. Don't do this to yourself.

I prefer heroes of the storm instead of Dota and Lol for these simple reasons
>games on average go for much shorter length of time so there is no wasting 40 minutes to potentially over an hour just to lose
>every hero actually feels unique, sure in Dota all the heros are 'unique' but thanks to items they are like it in the same way that smash bros clones such as wolf, lucas and Ganondorf are technically 'unique' because often most heroes will get and use the same Items
>more than one map, even if most are relatively the same the variety is nice

>>378190175
maybe you should fuck off to a HotS thread you dumb hero brawler

>>378188740
Jokes on you I play console games at 8K on my emulators so what I play, you play.
Also, keep your faggotry to yourself.

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*blocks your path*

>>378190765
>This itemization

yeh nah you fuked up boya

>>378190175
I don't know how every hero in HOTS can feel unique when the fights are just braindead ability button mashing.

my favorite thing about HOTS is how little skill it takes and how little effort is required to play

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>>378176020
>enemy team doesnt pick someone who can reliably stop my early game advancement like Bristle Back
>they """counter pick""" me with Earth Shaker in the vain hopes of getting some lite MLG tier echoslam on me and my spiders
>before he even has a blink Im at his door
>blink and echo slams
>I microd my spiders away and it does like 200 damage plus tip
>Orchid
>mfw

Now if only my team mates would get the fuck out of my lane

>>378176846
6k MMR redditors say you should stay away from support heroes until you reach their MMR, where you have to switch. Obviously bcause they intend to be the carry then kek

>>378188553
Fucking this

I'm just retarded I guess.

Has the game gotten any better since the holocaust that was 7.0?

>>378188553
>>378191797
just go solo on lane with low kill potential and spam quills.
when they come after you just run to trees and keep spamming quills

>>378191480
CLQ?

>>378192083
they murdered monkey king and alchemist for starters
they removed respawn talents, and some heroes got some super interesting new ones (warlock lmao)
jungle camps are back at 1 minute respawn
denying now gives you some exp
shrines nerfed

I dunno, play the goddamn game

>>378192558
>denying now gives you some exp
That seems pretty damn strong depending on the amount of XP you get.

>>378192558
I think all the changes and clear backpedaling were a remarkable show of self-awareness and humility by mr froge. Gives you hope for the game.

>>378192558
dont forget mid starts with an extra creep so with that plus exp stealing with denies mids level a lot faster

>>378192558
Maybe I should re-download it.

>>378192943
I think you steal about 30% of the exp leaving 70% for your opponent. Before you just denied your opponent 50% of the exp

>year 2012
>krokodainer video just came out
>everyone jokes about Meepo
>decide to try him out
>looks interesting
>everyone laughs not expecting anything
>do dagger poof
>that insane fucking damage
>"micro skills" everywhere in chat
>try hitting enemies
>that insane fucking physical damage
>several months later, players start checking profiles before the game starts
>I don't even pick Meepo, people already counterpick and and tell me that they'll destroy me
>pick Meepo anyway
>get commends every day for quality Meepo plays
And that's how I got a favorite hero

>>378193053
So denying is less powerful as something to fuck over your opponent, but it's better for you specifically?
Sounds neat.

>>378193254
ya so you both level faster then you would the old way, but if your good at last hitting and denying you can get a fair advantage over your lane opponent

>>378193349
Yeah, that sounds pretty good, there's 30% more XP on both sides, but if you're better at denying and last hitting you'll be leveling faster than someone who's bad at denying.
Are supports still encouraged to fuck off from the lane so the carry gets all the XP?

>>378181367
I've played tons of videogames, but you have to give it to Valve. Even though theres a ton of heroes, spells and items with little experience you can tell what happened just by sound.

>>378193920
Dota has great sound design, everything is unique and identifiable.