You did execute him, right /v/?

>>378175036
Didn't get far enough through that shitty game to know what you're talking about desu

>executing the only decent husbando in Fallout 4

Nigga, no.

>>378175036
No, I didn't. I even talked Maxson out of it

>Make a male vault dweller.
>Party with only female companions.

Nigga wat?

I uninstalled this game after 2 hours, after shortly realizing I couldn't kill the robot thing, the black cowboy guy trying to guilt trip me into doing missions for him, and somebody else.

The weapons look like shit, the story is shit, everything about it is shit.

Looks nice at least.

>>378175819
>brotherhood main goal is to confiscate tech and prevent anything like the war from happening again
>"nah, just let this ultra advanced tech that is literally ripping apart the fabric of society hang around, it'll be fine... probably..."

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I joined the institute so he died but there was no execution.

and my normies went with muh minutemen so I haven't seen this part either, but know from wiki.

>tfw no NCR, Enclave, brotherhood went full retard
going back to NV tb.qh

>>378175036
i never picked him up as a companion i used the dog and the paper girl who wants to fuck after you pick 3 locks. i dropped the game shortly thereafter.

>>378175138
fpbp

>>378175036
>playing fallout 4 at all
Nigga u dumb

>>378176558
Why does a synth need such wide hips?

>>378175036
>Executing Buzz Lightyear
Do you have no heart?

>>378175036
Of course, like the synth dog he was.
Ad Victoriam.

>>378177304
for storing contraband in her lead-lined pelvic cavity

There's literally zero reason to kill him, even if you hate synths (because he hates them himself and stays the fuck out of the way if you let him live). You'll miss out on a set of X-01 and his companion perk, too.

>>378177705
There are plenty of reasons to kill him anon. First and foremost, if you are doing a brotherhood run, Elder Maxson orders you to kill him. If your character hates synths and wants to destroy the institute, the only good synth is a dead synth. If the tides were turned, do you think he'd spare you? Probably not, especially if he was ordered to kill you by the Elder himself. He certainly wouldn't hesitate to kill any other brotherhood soldier he was ordered too, especially if they were a synth. He even commends you on your decision to kill him, and doesn't put up a fight. Most importantly, the execution is symbolic. It shows the brotherhood is united in this fight, and even if the institute infiltrates their ranks, they are willing to purge them should the need arise. If you weasel your way out of killing him, it proves you're a weak link who can't really be trusted to do what you're ordered to do. It's a cowards way out, just like Danse living in hiding from that point on. He's living a cowards life, not facing the actual problems at hand but running from them.

>>378178436
>the only good synth is a dead synth

You'd kill Valentine too?

>>378178545
>>378178436
Or sweet innocent Curie?

>>378178436
Fair points, however, I was mostly referring to the fact that the outcome has no actual effect on the story (i.e, you are negatively affected in some way by letting him live).

>>378178545
I'm not sure what the brotherhood would do with Nick. If you take him to the airport or the prydwen they seem to dislike him, but it's not like he's ever assaulted or forcibly removed from the place. It's obvious he's a synth though, and he hates the institute as much as the brotherhood does, so maybe they'd be willing to look the other way in his case.

>>378178786
As for CVRIE, I don't think the brotherhood cares so much about robots like her. They use Mr Handys and shit all the time, so I don't think those are as big of a problem. I'm sure they'd nab her and put her to work for them (I could see them using her as a scribe or something, which she probably wouldn't mind that much really) but I doubt they'd destroy her.

>>378179150
True, in typical Bethesda fashion nothing actually fucking matter so I suppose the nice thing to do is let him live. I'm just trying to help people understand why you would actually kill him when it's just as easy to let him live.

>>378175036
God no, Danse was one of the few good things about this game.

I want to kiss him.

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>>378175036
I didn't play this shit game.

>>378178786
What do I need to do to get Curie into a synth body besides raising her affinity? Do I need to side with the railroad?

I want to take this opportunity to raise some points
>the character creation is wank, just from an aesthetics point, not only are you severely limited in the number of "good" looking faces you can make with the stupid fucking art style, several hairstyles and the ENTIRETY of the "dirt" and "warpaint" menus are hidden behind the facial surgery cunts, meaning that if you don't fancy remaking your character which most poeple don't, you'll never find out that you can add grime and shit
>there is a severe, SEVERE lack of weapon variety, and the modifications for weapons are generally half stat upgrades with no visual change, or barely noticable
>the whole lack of care with weapons in general, fucking retarded design, animations, that sort of thing
>the entiretity of the artbook - it's revealed that the synth laser gun was originally going to shoot acid dart things and look different, but they "had to use the same reload animations as the normal laser guns" so it's just a fatter whiter version
>the fucking drug addict old cunt was orginally supposed to have a wheelchair because she was so fucked from jet, but they couldn't take her up stairs, so they decided to give her a mr handy modified to be a chair, BUT THEN that was too hard ;^(((((( so they gave up and just gave her working legs
>the entirety of the first quest is fucked, going to the minutemen is rife with animations just not playing, characters not talking when they should, and weapons floating out of characters hands
>in fact, almost all animations where someone holds or uses something has the something floating into and out of their grip, almost always clipping terribly
>stupid amounts of clothing can't have armour on top of it, even though there would be no clipping - not that clipping is an issue, since everythign fucking clips anyway
>several BIG bugs, like the covenant quest where talking to the synth girl will cause both you and her to lose your eye and mouth textures
too much autism for one post

>foliage floating in the air constantly
>objects collision models are several times larger than the objects, making them act really poorly when moved, often having their collision clipped into things by mappers, making everything fucking float when you pick shit up or move it
>FUCKING SELLING BASE GAME ASSETS AS DLC
>settlement building is awful, almost every area that was made by hand at bethesda uses copious amounts of clipping to make their shitty models work, and you can't clip through anything in settlement building so everything looks awful
>overuse of garrus' VA, he voices what has to be well over half of the minor characters and unnamed characters
>can't be a bad person at any point until the nuka world dlc
>fucking neutral areas like the robot racetrack or the combat zone are just hostile to you no matter what, so you can't bet on ANYTHING
>pathing issues like in every bethesda game
>awful face models and lip sync like in every bethesda game
>the fucking ghoul child quest
>FUCKING PETE HINES FUCK YOU
>the fucking prewar shit being filled with caps, postwar weapons, chems, etc
>literally no way to say no to a lot of things, like the minutemen, you get to say "not really but sure" or "sure but I don't want to do this"
>no way to join the raiders shooting the minutemen at the start of the game
>brotherhood are fucking fairy boy good guys again
>THE FUCKING INSTITUTE
>LITERALLY CREATE BEINGS THAT HAVE THE SAME BRAIN AS HUMANS BUT MADE OUT OF SYNTHETIC MATERIAL INSTEAD OF ORGANIC AND THEN HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CALL THEM LESS THAN HUMAN
>NO CHOICE TO MAYBE FUCKING CHANGE ANYTHIGN IN THE INSTITUTE WHEN YOU BECOME LEADER
>SHAUN IS A RETARD FAGGOT WHO DOESNT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT ANYONE, LITERALLY ANYONE FROM VAULT 111 WOULD WORK, NOT JUST A BABY
>unfinished shit out the arse, but that's normal for bethesda
>LEVELLED LOOT AND ENEMIES
EVEN MORE

>>378179607
Yeah, they're too afraid to have the player commit to their choices and possibly miss out on something because people will complain that they aren't omnipotent master-of-alls.

>>378180731
Bethesda are just talentless hacks from the sounds of it, and their engine is dogshit with too many limitations, so you have to find bandaid solutions. Look at how janky the Vertibirds are, for instance.

I recall Todd saying in an interview that he had no idea how they could make something like GTA V, like it was completely beyond his ability.

>>378179729
How do you know it's shit then?

>>378181563
How do you know something is dogshit instead of chocolate when it's laying on the side of the road?

>>378180731
>>378181324
Some of these are decent points, some of them are very autistic.

>>378181906
Which are autistic? Different anon here.

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>fucking fat man literally two minutes west of the starting area, not only are zero(0) enemies encountered on the way there, you get a holotape that lets you activate a non-hostile sentry bot that kills anything that might appear
>Diamond city is not only tiny, the whole upper stands area consists of maybe three houses and a bar, and that's it
>no really, there's huge amounts of land just left bare
>fucking 200 years after the bombs dropped and there's still shit everywhere? Not just garbage, but weapons, ammo, money, meds
>EVERYTHING IS FUCKING DEAD, NO LIVING TREES TWO HUNDRED(200) YEARS AFTER THE BOMBS
>staring at the bomb when it drops in the opening doesn't give you a -1 PER modifier until you go to a doctor or something
>SPECIAL stats are used in one(1) quest and that's it
>speech checks are percentage based again, even after literally everyone said NV had a better system
>no fucking skills or stats because it's too hard for the retarded normalfags to understand how to make a character
>voiced protagonist not only doesn't fit ANY fucking face you make, he sounds wrong in many situations
>fucking chat wheel meme that doesn't give you any info
>awful, AWFUL facial animations on the PC, basically just pulling the lip corners down or up depending on the mood
>"gamebyro can't handle ladders because we never need ladders :^))))))"
>ladders are everywhere in fallout 4
>severe lack of population everywhere, 200 years after the fuckin gbombs and there's barely two dozen people in diamond city
>gunners are mercs, but attack EVERYONE on sight because ??? since there's NO WAY that the guy walking towards them might want to HIRE THEM
>ammo mechanics stripped out, fucking nothing good
>almost NOTHING changes due to your actions, best I can name are the bandit camps that have named leaders actually updating their terminals with who you kill, ie if you kill the guys in the prewar military food store, the others will say they need to go and loot the place

>financially supporting "'"""""""""Fallout""'""""""""" 4
ISHYGDDT

>>378181906
Autistic anon here, which ones are the autistic ones
I need to know so that when I actually stop sperging and write this shit down properly, I can figure out what's worthless screaming and what's legitimate grievances

>>378181563
some idiot on /v/ told him

Oh also it's never fucking explained why the institute
>killed everyone in the meeting where settlements were trying to make a new goverment
>replace random people that literally have no use to them, I know they did it at warrick for the land, people like art have literally no reason to be replaced
>use synths instead of mr handy or some other meme model that can do shit better than a human body can because it has three fucking arms
>had the FEV experiments continue on for T E N ( 1 0 ) Y E A R S after it was decided that there was nothing good to learn from kidnapping people and dunking them in goo
and probably some other things I forget

>>378181708
You don't, you have to taste it first

>>378180168
Just keep raising it and she will eventually give you the quest
You also need to reach a certain point in the main story to meet a brain specialist
Or not
The person is in Goodneighbor

>>378182512
I vaguely recall that killing everyone at the meeting was legitimately an accident when one of their synths had a malfunction and opened fire, and the Institute really wanted to help build a government. Everything else goes unexplained, though.

>>378182929
You have to complete the awful boring fucking mission where you go into kellog's memories before you can take curie to the doctor

>>378182067
>>378182159
Complaining that stat upgrades to guns don't have visual changes, I mean, I don't really see the big deal. It doesn't really make sense to add "warpaint" or "grime/dirt" to your characters face before you leave the vault. I mean, I guess unless you're trying to roleplay as Pigpen or something. I agree the weapon variety is shit, and animations are shit (tons of clipping and bugs and stuff) but it doesn't make the game unplayable, just makes you think about what they could have done instead.

The drug addicted lady being in a wheelchair or in a hover chair thing is pretty autistic too, I mean, she's not even a main character or anything. Once you leave sanctuary you never see her again unless you return. Would it really have been worth the effort for some bullshit fortune teller? Not really.

The first quest is dumb, makes no sense that you would just rush into full on battle with crazy raider when, to your character, the world was fine what felt like 10 minutes ago. I guess if you play as the guy, with a military background, it kinda makes sense he'd jump into action. But the girl was a lawyer, I doubt she'd grab a gun and start popping people right after what she went through.

That racetrack was fixed from the beginning, it would make no sense to be able to bet on it. The combat zone was taken over by raiders, it's not like how it used to be. I do wish there was a way to befriend the raiders kinda like you could in New Vegas though.

Postwar shit in untouched ruins is lame, but it's not inconceivable to think some people made it into those areas at some point after the war to store stuff but never came back. Mostly it's just laziness on bethesda's part though.

Shit being everywhere isn't a huge deal to me. There's no way to move fucking cars out of the road since there's no heavy machinery.

Is it worth playing for a few hours? It's the free weekend for a bit so I might give it a shot.

>>378175036
No beacuse Fallout 4 so shit I dropped it before doing a BoS play through

I was exploring a factory area that was abandoned 15 years ago the other day and it was in a far worse state of decay than what is depicted in Fallout 4.

It's literally a post-apocalyptic Hollywood theme park.

>>378175036
>literally playing fallout 4

come on get some taste this is a board for enthusiasts

>>378182512
The killing of the people was supposedly an accident. After that, I assume the Commonwealth weren't listening to them anymore.
Replacing random people might have been simply experimenting for being able to take over the commonwealth piece by piece. Having even insignificant people back your own would be helpful.
Synth's are supposed to combine the strength of most robots with the tactile skill of a human.
As for FEV, wasn't that done in secret? Even geniuses can go crazy.

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>>378175036
Destroying the brotherhood was the only thing I was sure about in the entire goddamn game.

>>378183161
You personally don't find issue with those complaints, but they still are totally valid complaints, albeit trivial.

>>378183021
Shit, I never saw that anywhere. I saw IN A FUCKING LOADING SCREEN AND LITERALLY NOWHERE ELSE that originally the institute tried to be peaceful, but "mutual mistrust" stopped that
How that turned into fucking bodysnatching beats me
>>378183161
The no visual change, I understand, but I just feel that they could have removed the ones that don't change anything visually and left the guns a little more defined. Drug lady, sure it's a minor character, but they clearly spent time on all the minutemen survivors and thought they were interesting enough to make them the first people you're "supposed" to meet after waking up. When I say shit being everywhere, I don't mean the cars or heavy shit, I mean medkits in shops that are clearly marked as MEDKIT, with what looks to be the full kit left in them, no matter how close the shop is to a group of people.
>>378183418
Tactile skill, sure, but to get the kind of shit that only humans have, you have to make a human replica, and at that point it's slavery. I wouldn't mind if they had a reason for it, like, I dunno, all the synths had six eyes or something, but they're literally designed to be identical - or better - than humans. The FEV, it's in the terminals that Father, ie Shaun, tells them to continue even after almost all the researchers say "we've been dunking people for ten fucking years and literally every result has been the same as the results from the first month why are we still doing this"

>>378175036
I didn't because I got bored of the game before that point.

>>378182512
You do need to keep in mind that Fallout is meant to be kind of silly, especially when it comes to science. I mean, why would manufacturers in America make Mr. Handys which routinely malfunctioned and killed their owners? Why would people continue buying them? Why would Vault-tec build so many vaults with absolutely retarded experiments? A lot of it seems stupid to us but in the fallout universe it's perfectly reasonable. Experiments with FEV even before the vaults were built yielded fuck all results, so why put that shit in vaults anyway? For science, of course!

>>378183532
Sometimes we need to take a step back and reevaluate our priorities anon. Something you care deeply about might not matter to someone else, or anyone at all for that matter. Fixating on it then makes you look insane or weird.

>>378182159
Bugs may have been fixed and if so that will certainly be leveled at you as a counterpoint by any shills/fanboys, if it's a mod that fixes it then that's just more ammo for you to shit talk FO4, the brotherhood aren't fairy good guys like they were back in FO3 a better criticism would be them destroying the Institute's tech and synths instead of holding true to their mission statement of hoarding it, but that's just my opinion on that matter, people might try to hand wave cut content be prepared to present a counter argument to what ever arguments they might use for it, people will cite being able to customize guns and weapons as an alternative to ammo mods, the staring at the bomb thing while ridiculous can be easily overlooked, I don't know where I've heard this but ladders can be surprisingly tricky to program in general, people may point that out as an excuse be sure to point to other shitty devs who have implemented ladders in their games, the voiced protagonist complaint about the voice not matching is a matter of opinion, people will hand wave the lack of skills by calling you a nerd. Not the guy you replied to btw, just some things to keep in mind should you get into a discussion about it with some one or make a youtube video.

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>>378183748
the institute doesn't have any reason to do shit cheaply or stupidly though
the prewar companies made broken machines because it was cheaper to ship them broken than fix them, the institute has literally no purpose besides making shit unfucked
>Sometimes we need to take a step back and reevaluate our priorities anon. Something you care deeply about might not matter to someone else, or anyone at all for that matter. Fixating on it then makes you look insane or weird.
you stupid fucking retard, people thought that the rights of negros was a stupid thing that only idiots cared about because they were subhuman and property a few hundred fucking years ago and look at where we are now
fuck you just because you don't think something's important doesn't mean that it isn't you stupid narcissistic cunt what makes you the decider on what is and isn't valid complaints about vidya gaems
>>378183902
I've been playing the game again so I can assure you that the bugs are not fixed in the slightest
but all of those are easily refuted by "dumbing shit down is not good because there are plenty of other games that are dumb and there's no reason to dumb down another game"

>>378183748
Why should I care if it doesn't matter to someone else? Who makes priorities? It's all a matter of perspective, and not the objective reality, and the reality is that what that anon posted is an example of poor game design and outright laziness. No matter how small it is, the principle is still there.

>>378181563
because /v/ told me it was shit and i didn't want my friends to think i was lame.

>>378184269
>you stupid fucking retard, people thought that the rights of negros was a stupid thing that only idiots cared about because they were subhuman and property a few hundred fucking years ago and look at where we are now
>fuck you just because you don't think something's important doesn't mean that it isn't you stupid narcissistic cunt what makes you the decider on what is and isn't valid complaints about vidya gaems

I'm not really sure what we're arguing about anymore.

>>378184287
I mean it's fine if that stuff bothers you, I was just explaining that it doesn't matter to me that much and giving you reasons for it. There are plenty of things wrong with FO4 but I still enjoy it.

>>378184612
I'm arguing about the fact that just because you have fucking marina trench teir standards doesn't mean that's an excuse for making shit games

>>378184612
Just keep in mind that many small issues can pile together into one big issue.

I too can still find enjoyment out of Fallout 4, it is by no means a /bad/ game, but I frequently encounter issues while playing the game that annoy me. Like the exit cutscene not initiating on the vertibird, and then watching helplessly as it takes off, flies for a bit, then decides to drop my character out of it, which results in my character falling to his death.

>>378184269
Oh, and with regards to supplies being so easily accessible, that's by design no one can say that the fallout series was ever intended to be a sim so you need to accept the fact, that no matter which dev makes a fallout game no matter how good of a dev they are they're going to make decisions that benefit gameplay at the cost of immersion and story telling.

>>378184812
If you really hate FO4 so much why are you even posting in this thread? I didn't even make this thread to talk about whether the game was good or not. I will write down that you hate it and I'll tuck that away on my desk.

>>378185194
I'll concede that
Gemplay has to come first, I suppose
>>378185286
>why are you talking about something other than exactly what I posted in the OP
are you new or something