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Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood

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What class are you levelling at the moment in preperation of Stormblood?
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Trying to finish off WAR so I'll have all 3 tanks at 60 and ready to go. BLM is my waifu DPS job though. Not really interested in either RDM or SAM so I'm thinking it's going to be fairly comfy on the way to 70.

I just don't have it in me to level crafters or gatherers.
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You have 30 seconds to explain why you're playing a WoW-clone. Saying you're not and instead playing WoW or another WoW-clone is not an acceptable answer.
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>>378164819
bait
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>>378164819
Yes chef! I prefer the setting, job roster, player housing, crafting and gather!
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>>378164237
SMN because that Bahamut shit is tight
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>>378164819
I don't have to explain anything.
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>>378164925
This is not bait. This is a serious question.

WoW & WoW-clones are not MMORPGS. They're virtual jerkoff chatrooms for children who couldn't play the real deal.

Thanks for killing the genre.
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I already got everything I wanted to play to 60 and all the others to 50.
Only MCH is 42.

I'm more concerned on what I will main in SB tho, I went WHM in ARR, SCH in HW but if t hey nerfed the fairy too badly I may as well go AST in SB.
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>>378164237
>Trying to finish off WAR so I'll have all 3 tanks at 60 and ready to go.

That sounds like no fun at all. Isn't having one tank more than enough?
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Anyone else ERP ironically? haha
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Serious question for you faggots.
So I bought a sub a few months back and played. Sub ran out and so I'm thinking of resubbing. If my first go around was purchased through the online store. Can I still play with my character this round using steam or no?
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>less than one week before every cat and aura fag is running around with sice hair
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>>378165326
No sadly, the PC version (bought physically or off Amazon/SE store) =! Steam version from what I understood.
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>>378165436
>sice hair
what?
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>>378165051
That's all the genre has ever been. Even back before graphics were introduced and they were literal chatrooms.

They didn't kill the genre, you just fell for it sooner.
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>>378165436
the chick from type 0
the next event adds her hair in
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>>378165524
Fuck off faggot alt+tab back into WoW.

Play for an hour and tell me how much communication you did with other players to achieve something in game.

Let me guess. Oh first I'll open up my Dungeon Finder™ with one of my trinity classes (since having support classes would just be too hard to balance). Then I'll instantly teleport to anywhere in the world I want with no player interaction, thread or time taken. Then I'll rush through this dungeon as quickly as humanly possible without saying a word to anyone else in the party because that's how fucking mindless and boring each dungeon is.Once I am instantly teleported out of my instanced dungeon, I'll go back AFK in the town since there's nothing to do until the next expansion because player driven content is just too difficult to design! And how else will Activision keep children playing unless they're constantly being handed new gear on a silver platter with a shiny new "ilv" slapped on it.

Fucking legit autism.
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>>378165580

You know, I kind of wish you were a viral marketer. It'd be so much better for /v/ to know who is a paid shill and who is an excited fan.

That said, fuck off, if I can't play as an attractive demi-human then I don't want to play at all.
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>>378166202
>MMO where you can breed your own horses.
Pay real money for the only decent ones!
>Can have pets, dogs and cats
Pay real money for the only decent ones!
>Best housing in any mmorpg.
Pay real money for the only decent ones!
>Amazing graphics.
Every class looks exactly the same! Gear does not affect your appearance! See that Wizard? Wow now look at that Wizard 100% identical!
>Massive world to explore
On Auto-walk!
>No level cap
That you'll literally need autism for if you plan on going past the soft cap! Oh and GL doing so with open world PvP!
>Amazing nude mods.
You'll need them to continue playing this shit game!
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>>378165580
>>378166202
How is this not a bannable offense?
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>>378166202
game sucks
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>>378166609
It is, it's advertisement. Why can't we have a thread to talk about our game without people dogpiling it trying to "convert" us to other games? fucking retards
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>>378166803
yeah but ff14 is a good game
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>>378166803
I hate XIV as well. Your game is just as shit.
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>>378164819
>lalafells
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Not leveling but trying to finish the story post HW. Currently at doing Xelphatol. How much more of this do I have left?
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>>378165470
Ok just bought a resub.
now where the FUCK do I find this long as registration code i'm supposed to have so I can redownload this shit
fucking thanks square
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>>378167381
Email?
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>>378167313
4h
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>>378167313
You're close to the end
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>>378167458
>>378167473
good. Thanks.
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>>378165051
>They're virtual jerkoff chatrooms
If only.

They're more like dress up apps with a half assed game attached to them.
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>>378167447
Didn't get anything in the email other than congrats for resubbing. and the fucking mog station is so fucking stupid and awfully designed i'm legit mad right now holy fucking shit thank you square
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New player here, currently MRD.
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>>378167237

I can't take Lalafells seriously. Every time I see one I just want to kick them. Smug little assholes.
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>>378167237
lalafell master race
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>>378167686
Which server?
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>>378167812
Making a thread about a popular game isnt a general. Its just that popular that everyone is making thread lately. /v/ isnt just for obscure games.
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Monk and Armorer. At first, I had a lot of trouble getting into MNK. But now I'm really liking it. Especially after getting forbidden chakra. And the reading Lominsian cursing is always fun. I think I'll be able to cap MNK and get Armorer to 50 before Stormblood, while doing other shit like squardrons and diadem. I'm catching up with shit after coming back. It's a fun, little game to play for burst now and then.

Here's hoping Stormblood will be at least as good as Heavensward. Even splurged on a new card. Probably need to anyways. Think my half decade old card is dying.
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>>378167742
Male lalafells are disgusting, fuck off.
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>>378167752
Zodiark on Chaos.
Loooots of frenchies there.
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>>378167812
So when are you gonna take care of the drawthread, Mr. Hall Monitor?
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>>378167970
make me
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>>378164819
I liked Final Fantasy.
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>>378168053
male lalas are the best!
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>>378165951

If you really feel that way you should support Pantheon.
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>>378168178
Maybe if Pantheon didn't have Everquest graphics. It's not okay to have animations from 1997 just because your game design is from the same time period.
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>>378168053

Cute
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>>378168175
There aren't any fucking rules on how often /v/ can talk about a game, faggot. People want to talk about FFXIV more than those games. Fucking cry about it and then learn to hide and filter you redditor newfag bitch. But you won't, because all you know how to do is cry for the local authority to take away the things you don't like because they make you angry.
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>>378168175
Bruh theres like a half dozen OW threads up at all times.
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>>378168247

While it is a fair complaint, it's still really early in development and they've said they plan to work on the animations and such later in development, focusing more on the basic content and mechanics. Visual wise the graphics aren't too bad, but yeah the animations will need work.
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>>378164237
Is this the shitpost thread or the circle jerk thread?
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>>378165951
>Play for an hour and tell me how much communication you did with other players to achieve something in game.
>Let me guess. Oh first I'll open up my Dungeon Finder™ with one of my trinity classes (since having support classes would just be too hard to balance). Then I'll instantly teleport to anywhere in the world I want with no player interaction, thread or time taken. Then I'll rush through this dungeon as quickly as humanly possible without saying a word to anyone else in the party because that's how fucking mindless and boring each dungeon is.Once I am instantly teleported out of my instanced dungeon, I'll go back AFK in the town since there's nothing to do until the next expansion because player driven content is just too difficult to design! And how else will Activision keep children playing unless they're constantly being handed new gear on a silver platter with a shiny new "ilv" slapped on it.
>Fucking legit autism.

I hope you don't play XIV, because if you do, the irony would be fatal.
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>>378166202
THIS. BDO is the best MMO, play BDO weebs
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>>378168175
>Overwatch, wow and battlegrounds are fucking massive compared to ffxiv, they don't break the rules and SPAM.

That's why they can't help but enter every other thread on the board to bemoan that people are doing something other than playing their precious games, right?
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>>378168451
They should just delete dungeons and make them three boss gauntlets without trash mobs and harder boss encounters.
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>>378165951
Forced communication is never the answer. You can get more out of modern MMOs if you take the incentive to communicate and cooperate.
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Someone tell me what class to play now that I literally can't play DRK since the server moved. I never wanted to play anything else and now I have to.
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Grinding for Ironworks caster gear in preparation for RDM.

I've got the tomestone and tokens for the weapon, the chest, the pants, the boots, the belt, and the earrings. I've got to get the gloves augmented next.
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>>378168679
>can't play DRK because of server move
wtf are you smoking? I had 200+ ping before and played DRK fine.
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>>378168679
Play a different game.
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>>378168591
But thats bullshit and you know it. Nothing in XIV or WoW requires coordination or cooperation outside of savage/mythic raiding. At best you'll have someone bitch at you for messing up a mechanic because they assumed everyone knew it. MMOs SHOULD force cooperation and communication. You should have to make your own groups for most content. Content should be difficult enough and contain mechanics even in normal dungeons to force you to plan out a strategy. All dungeon bosses from level 15 in WoW and XIV should at LEAST be as complex as the final boss in Gubal Library. Why are people afraid of being challenged as a group? Why are people who manually making groups not being rewarded more? Why can't there be actual incentives to leveling in the open world and in groups such as way stronger enemies that force cooperation to level?
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>>378168679
you can stick to crafting
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>>378168547

Nothing wrong with being a Blizzard drone. People stick with what they're comfortable with to the end. That's the whole point of playing games. Nobody wants to ditch their nostalgia & effort in their favorite games.
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>>378168706
>grinding for gear
>when the optimal way to level is through palace of the dead
lol
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>>378164819
I prefer this version of wow to yours
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>>378168576
>A game with nothing but MMO mechanics and nothing but Boss encounters
>Basically Monster Hunter but with MMO hotbar mechanics and combat

I'd play it. Sounds fucking fun. Just cut out all the fat of red grinds, leveling, etc.
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>>378169112
You have to explain why you prefer it
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>>378168547
Kinda like how XIV-fags come into every WoW thread?
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>>378165951
Oh no it's another one of these people who think that removing teleports, forcing transportation to take real time, and removing quick party organizations will help people become social butterflies in video games.
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>>378169301
its fun
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>>378168754
I'm not saying that guy is good but I am saying that you probably weren't.

DRK needs a pretty good ping to really play well.
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>>378168706
>yfw it has gear given to you the same way you get gear from the starting AST/DRK/MCH quests now
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Does anyone wanna do dungeons or something together?
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>>378169504
Datacenter?
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>>378169570
Primal.
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>>378169504
I'd rather sodomize myself at Yoshi's Castle than run another dungeon in this game
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>>378168854
This isn't the late 90s/early 2000s anymore.
Most of the people who play MMOs now aren't teenagers with nothing better to do with their time.

Almost everyone I've ever talked to about oldschool MMOs, be it UO, Anarchy Online, Everquest, Old WoW, Final Fantasy 11 etc were almost all either teenagers in highschool without jobs or young adults in college/uni or just had introverted tendencies. The reason these games could manage to hold such dedicated communities of people who were willing to spend the time to learn deeper mechanics and participate in sophisticated team based gameplay was simply because they had the time to kill. Modern games are not designed to be huge timesinks because that's not where the money is, even in MMOs. These people were always a minority to begin with, and now many of them have grown up, moved on with their lives. Modern games in general, including new MMOs are all designed with the lowest common denominator in mind, a platform for subscription and cash shop revenue because that's what is successful in the modern market. Among average players, most don't give a shit about being social or having to coordinate, they want their content on demand (dungeon finders) and they want to be able to clear it easily in a way that makes them feel that they're doing it effectively. The higher you go in difficulty, the fewer players are going to try or even bother with the content.
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>>378169601
Sure, you gonna make a PF? What kind of stuff do you wanna do?
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>>378168679
I played DRK at 100ms ping. It was fine.

Pre-echo 480+ All Star
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>>378169601
>>378169650
Can I join too?
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>>378169650
I didn't really have anything in particular in mind, I just kind of hit the point where I don't really have much else to do other than all the EX Primals and Savage stuff I'm behind on, but no one wants to do learning parties for those now.
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>>378169735
No.
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>>378169373
And yet I managed just fine, the only thing I couldn't do was double weave, which I can now. The game runs fine at 200 ping, the devs have said so as well that it's designed to function effectively at that level.
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>>378169793
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>>378169645
Don't bother trying to explain reality to self-absorbed faggots.
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>>378169784
Make a party in the PF with a password then I guess.
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it's harder to clear dun scaith now then it was during the release week, what the fuck is going?
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>>378169735
Of course Anon, is there anything in particular you want to do?
>>378169852
I still don't know what to do though!
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>>378169871
All the good players are on hiatus until stormblood.
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>>378169928
>Of course Anon, is there anything in particular you want to do?
I still haven't done my DRs today so we could go for that?
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>>378169928
It can be whatever progression you want I guess.
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>>378169871

People who know how to do it are waiting for SB, and people trying to catch up for SB have no one to guide them.

And then there are "lol netflix n chill lmao" and 420blazeit shitters who suck at everything, at all times, and there's no one to carry them.
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>>378168247
>>378168178
With those characters? No way.

Just give me DQX or FFXI-2.
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>>378170016
>>378170030
Okay it's up, password is 1114.
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>>378167970
>>378168053
>>378167742
I wanna hug a dark skinned male lalafell and make him my waifu
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>>378169982
I still see the same hardcore players (mostly sitting around), but I have noticed a lot of former players coming back recently, which would cause the same kind of problems.
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>>378164237
None, I've leveled them all. My goal right now is to muster the effort required to gather the 12,000 poetics I need to buy 130 gear for both RDM and SAM.
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what the fuck man
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>>378170306
Doesn't that happen if the person didn't log in for a while?
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>>378169010
I have a tank and healer willing to run me through dungeons so as to skip the queue. That's faster.

>>378169435
Probably not ilevel 150, which would mean I don't need new gear until level 58.
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>>378170306
All they have to do is level DRK, MCH, and AST now
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>you will never be good enough to heal 100k in shatter
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>>378170639
how bad and useless are you
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>>378170639
How the fuck?
I usually do 600-800k on a diurnal AST/WHM and 300-400 on SCH and Nocturnal AST, how can't you heal people?

You have to remember that overhealing in PVP is not a bad thing, it can safe people life from burst.
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>>378170182
You can password PFs now?
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>>378170845
Yeah, you can make private PFs.
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>>378170845
It's been a thing since cross pf was available, no?
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>>378170845
yeah, they brought that in when they made pf crossrealm
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>>378170741
WoW is old and bloated. XIV is just starting to build an identity.
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>>378170984
>WoW uses a bunch of common elements used in nearly all MMOs before it and takes from others such as Rift and GW2
>But XIV is supposedly copying WoW even though everything WoW does is already commonplace
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>>378170984
Then don't play it. Now feel free to leave the thread since you've delivered your message.
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So fellow WARs

What do you think they're doing to compensate for the loss of Bloodbath? Anything? Fell Cleave spam is nice and I kinda like the zerk changes, but I worry for our selfhealing.
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New minion leaked. It's otter-ly fucking adorable and I want 30 of them.
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>>378171243
We already know you're just here to break the global rules. You can go do it somewhere else now.
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>>378170306
>this is your aurum vale tank
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>>378170984
>wow- old and busted
>ff14- modern masterpiece
nuff said
sit kid
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When are they gonna talk about summoner and scholar more
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>>378171321
>otter-ly

Not sure if I want to hug or slap you for that
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>>378164237
had drk at 60 for a few months, but too lazy to grind my ilevel up to get into baelsar's wall. Did manage to get get blacksmith into the 30s, but god is grinding is boring
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>>378171473
When the press embargo drops at the end of May.
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>>378171309
storm's path still has the selfheal attached + grants extra beast meter, so it will probably be used a bit more willingly than it is now

plus equilibrium is still a thing that exists and every melee has goad available so the tp regain isn't as big a concern
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Do you think mr. happy will come out with leveling and dungeon guides during the early access?
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>>378164237
I'd play this if it didn't have a midget children race and people with cat ears
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>>378164237
I find it funny that people are excited about the game becoming more like WoW. Enjoy 2 dungeons, tome-grinding and routlettes for 3 months.
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>>378171543
>being a nigger
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>>378171510
Look for someone otter than me then.
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>>378171396
I didn't get it.
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>>378170306
>>378170361
It does.

On that note, someone have that one dude that was leveling all jobs, one level at a time? Including crafters, screenshot had him at like level 54/55.
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>>378171576
Yes, and I'm going to votekick anyone who says they watched a video before coming in during the first week.
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>>378171713
ok
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>>378171713
Anon, while I agree to an extent that WoW is a better game, farming AP all day for your artifact weapon gets old real fast.
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I want them to add blackjack to the Golden Saucer.
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>>378171713
ok
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>>378171321
Tanoshii!
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PVP Shatter may be a clunky mess, but I like it.
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>>378169660
fuck off Saeno
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>>378171846
>still no bliztball
>no tetramaster
>chocobo races are a joke and no one does it
>gold saucer is completely dead
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>>378172078
Seize > Secure > Slaughter > Shatter.
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>>378171309
I think WAR self healing other than Storm's Path is just not really going to be a thing outside of Defiance.

Inner Beast might have some of its old heal back I guess.
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>>378164819
No AP grind
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>>378164237
I already have everything leveled. Now I wait.
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>>378172192
I wonder how the new PVP system will work. It sounds like a bigger revamp than what PVE is getting. I kind of hope all modes are available at 30.
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>>378172156
Triple Triad > Tetra Master
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Is Blizz sending out these shills because of how hype the new job actions were? That's all I can imagine. Was normal discussion yesterday and it's all whining today.
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>>378172156
Blitzball was announced for Stormblood, anon.
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>>378172156
Blitzball would be a mess
We already have triple triad
Chocobo races suck
Gold Saucer was just a meme

They should solely focus on just battle content.
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>>378172307
Since they're basically overhauling the entire thing they really have no excuse for not having every one of them be level 70. I've already got my white ads and coat though so I just hope the new one isn't garbage.
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>>378169349
>WoW threads

What, now?
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>>378172340
They're probably just wowfags who have nothing better to do. Didn't wow delay their next patch by 2 months to compete with Stormblood?
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Being lazy about getting a WAR to 60 just so I have a tank ready for SB to skip dungeon queues, otherwise I'm a BLM main.

>>378170295
I don't get what is with people doing this.

Sure it's better than the white HW leveling gear, but its still going to get replaced before lv60.
Spending countless hours farming poetics so you can save yourself a bit of gil, your time would be better spent spamming a1s for gear to throw at your gc for seals to turn into cordials for the market board.
Plus they've confirmed you can convert poetics into whatever the next tomestone is going to be.
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>>378170741
Yes that painted on armor and 2004 unity look really give off that superior game feel

Cant wait to grind AP while i farm resources in my facebook garrison
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>>378172893
in my case at least it's because i was capped on poetics for like two weeks anyway so i may as well spend that shit
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>Resub
>Character's skin tone is bothering me when it didn't used to
Man I don't want to buy a Fantasia just for that.
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>>378172307
For what it sounds, it looks to be the first time they've ever seriously thought about job balance in PvE. If they don't fuck it up, it could be decent, but don't get your hopes up.
At least giving jobs separate shit for PvP and PvE would allow them to do much more shit than just
>adjusted this action down by 5%
>adjusted this action up by 5%
>reduced CC duration by 1s
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Deciding if I want to play this game or not.

What's the main difference between WoW?
I hate the Final Fantasy story, does this game carry over that story?
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What class should I play? I'm looking for a new time sink since I can't do wow anymore.

I played warrior in wow because I'm dumb and melee dps was all i could do without fucking up.
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>>378173263
Unique story to this particular game.

There are a number of differences but if I were to say one "Main" difference is how there's few "GCD" Skills, but a lot of "oGCDs" with Weaponskills and Abilities respectively. You will be doing a lot of abilities between weaponskills.
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>think you did a really good job in the instance
>no commendations
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>>378173263
Do you know about the Free Trial?
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>>378173295

>I played warrior in wow because I'm dumb

xiv's warrior will be a perfect fit
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>>378173295
Game has "Classes" But eventually becomes Jobs. The distinction is pretty important later, As for what to play, Lancer to start with is a good starter, as is Marauder. The thing in the long run is, you can be any "Class" or "Job" on a single character, you are not limited at character creation, and it is even encouraged to change jobs often.
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>>378173458
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>The mods are now straight up deleting all posts about other MMOs

FFXIV truly is the best
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>>378173564
Who wants to be it was just one or two posters?
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Pimpin
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>>378173629
There's no money in something so obvious.
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>>378173564
/wowg/ is one of the better generals on /vg/
/bdog/ is mid to low
/xivg/ is the bottom of the barrel
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>>378173687
>raubahn fucked and impregnated a lalafell
disgusting
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>>378173458
Worst title. It sounds like you lay sahagin eggs.
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recently resubbed and just started heavensward with PLD as main.

>tfw i don't think i'm going to make it in time
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>>378173856
adopted son
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don't you just love it when the game mentions the expansion name
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>>378173939
How the fuck not? Shit takes a few days tops.
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>>378173939
Nah man you got it.

Seen the goodies you're getting in the xpac? Push on PLDfriend.
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>>378173939
you can easily finish the main story, but post patches going to be tough, as some of the final dungeons have a 210 ilevel and 230 ilevel requirement
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>>378174010
This shit can either be fantastic or awful. I love it.
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>>378174010
wtf is a sward?
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>>378174016
Not that guy but the biggest stopgap right now for folks is the 230 ilevel requirement. Not everyone has gil/friends/shitload of tomestones.
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>>378173994
>raubahn fucked a lalafell and then adopted another one, presumably to add incest to his list of sins
even worse
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>>378174094
>Heaven's Ward
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>>378173939
I think it's pretty fast, just make sure to do some PvP when you hit level 60 to get 235 ilevel gear so you can unlock the last dungeons.
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>>378174107
Only to retards who don't abuse PvP shitting 235 gear on you.
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>>378173742
And that's precisely why we're here instead.
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>>378174094
>>378174167
No no it means Heavensward, as in going towards heaven.
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>>378174107
pvp shits out ilvl 235 gear last I checked. don't even have to put effort into it, just queue and afk once you're inside. you still get pvp currency whether you win or lose.
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>>378174251
it's obviously the feminine word for Sword

>Heaven
>sward
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>>378174181
>>378174290
Yeah, and then get laughed at.
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>>378174251
heavens = realm above the skies
ward = guardian or defender

heavensward = heavens defender
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>>378174524
more like guarding against heaven
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>>378174290
It does, but people meme on pvp so it scares others away from it. Additionally, if all you care about is wolf marks, the game gives you bigger and bigger bonuses for losing in Frontlines, going from
>500 marks per loss
and capping at
>1125 marks per loss
It's actually more lucrative to keep a loss streak going than it is to try your best to win. Which is retarded.
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DoM tank when
DoW healer when
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>>378174596
>>378174524
>>378174429
>>378174251
>>378174094
>>378174010

you ala mhiggers, it's cleary HEAVENSWAR, the D is a typo, it's obviously a big war in the heavens, because dragons and shit
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>>378174651

blue mage and dancer confirmed 4.4 look forward to it
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I don't want to spam Fell Cleave 6 times every few minutes.
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>>378174435
By fucking who? The goal is to clear the story, not impress rando idiots who spam Ice III at things.
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>>378174715
>HEAVENSWAR
>STORMBLOO
What does it mean?
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>>378174715
ACTUALLY, when Yoshi-PBnJ was in England promoting ARR he was attacked by a jihadist looking like he was straight out of Indiana Jones and one of those fucking Yuros shouted out in his cockney accent "He has a sword!" but because of his fucked up teeth and shit it sounded like "He havin' an sward, luv!" and that life or death experience left a big impression on our favorite Lunch Time Developer, so he named the expac "He 'ave 'n sward".
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>>378169645
What if I told you that, as an adult, you still have plenty of free time. You CHOSE what to do with it. Those "oldschool MMOs" had PLENTY of grown ass adults playing them. For every spaz of a 11 year old there was also a 30 year old man getting home from work or playing on his days off.
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>>378174773
It won't feel so bad in action. See:BLM rotation
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>>378174107
literally all it takes is a small mix of pvp and 24 mans, or in tanks case, pvp and dungeons
then you pad with tomestones, and problem solved
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>>378174994
>Bloo
>Adjective
>Eye dialect spelling of blue.
>blue

>Storm
>lighting is sometimes blue

BLU CONFIRMED FOR MIDPATCH?!?!?!?!
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>>378174773
tough shit, SMNs and BLMs have been doing that shit for the entirety of 3.x
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>>378174167
>>378174524

You may just be memeing but it doesn't mean that. They wouldn't forget an apostrophe in the game's title, don't be retarded. The title means "towards the heavens".

Of course, Heaven's Ward is also a thing in the game and a play on the title.
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When are we getting more information?
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>>378175516
Tomorrow.
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>>378175516
Some time between tomorrow and the 31st
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>>378175535
What, really? What time?
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>>378175396

In SMN's case at least the biggest nuke is one time only though, which is much more satisfying. Ruin 3 doesn't even qualify as big numbers.
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>>378175516
nda ends on the 30th or 31, i think
so then we can have actual numbers to back up our wild shitposting about class balance
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>>378175670
But I can't wait that long. I need to calibrate my WHM doomsaying NOW.
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>>378175670
5k on the NDA being lifted a 11:59PM Pacific time, just to say that "SEE, SEE, DATA BEFORE JUNE FUCK YOU." I'm getting tired of this shit.
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>>378175793
nigga whm is ded
no need to calibrate shit
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>>378175214
I'm not saying that there aren't grown adults who play MMOs, I'm saying most grown adults do not play MMOs to that degree. More people are interested in other real world activities with friends and family than they are playing MMORPGs at a high level. There's nothing wrong with either of those things, it's just a statement of fact.
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>>378171713
>level skip and story skip potions are now a thing
I can't defend FFXIV anymore.
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>>378175793
I really think WHM is going to surprise the shit out of people just like PLD.

(I don't have any real information, just a feeling)
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>>378175098
>plebbit tier post
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>>378174251
The Heaven's Ward march Heavensward with their Heaven swards
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>>378175381
At last those job_sample and job_random conspiracy faggots would get a bone thrown their way.
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>>378176410
>dumb frogposter
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I watched through the entire Vsauce collection while camping relic fates. What are some good youtubers?
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>>378176704
http://farfetchedfables.com/
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>be blm
>see blm changes
>see free Sprint for all classes
>lot more mobility
>realise next tier of raiding is going to be running around like headless chicken
>changes are just to make blm not completely shit

Putting on the smn dong for SB
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>People still too busy sperging over the flashy new attacks to realize how casualized combat has become
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4.0 is only 3 weeks away.
Why haven't you reached floor 200 yet?
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>>378176871
If the next raid tier has a lot of movement that's a really good sign because the quality of raid encounters in FFXIV is pretty much directly proportional to how mobile the fight is.
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>>378177012
all of my friends are playing other games or don't have enough time to get to 200 with me
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>>378177012
I play solo.
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>>378177012
Just started playing again. Don't have friends playing to do it with.
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>>378177012
because potd is boring mind-numbing shit and only the msot casual of casuals bother with it
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>>378177012
Nobody wants to spend 6 hours getting to the only fun floors.
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>>378176410
Oh I'll show you a plebbit tier post. Hold my beer.
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>>378164819
WoW isn't fun. This is.

Can I go now, mister?
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>Spend 30 minutes in queue
>Literally seconds away from popping
>Suddenly have to take a gigantic shit
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>>378177180
Sounds like sour fucking grapes desu
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probably a dumb question but how much of the game is soloable if i just want to do the story stuff.

i heard people get mad at you if you want to watch cutscenes for some of the quests or something.
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>>378176994
the game has been babymode since arr
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>>378174136
If you think that's bad, Namano is rapebaby from when Mistbeard kidnapped her mother. It's why that place in Satasha is called "Sultana's lap."

>Girl lalas are literally size queens
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>>378164237
Paladin for main since 1.0, SAM for Vergil cosplay.

>>378177012
I have though anon, Chimeras are fucking gay.

>tfw the only thing I'm missing in game now is the beast tribe Orchestrion rolls

How do I make doing bast tribes not boring ass shit anons?
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>>378177424
All of it. No one with a brain will get angry at you.
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>>378177012
>making it seem like reaching 200 is some grand achievement or something worth bothering with
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>>378177263
At least you had Gay Sex with Hats On, but you need a tab for how to take a screenshot, how to google, and something degenerate like FurAffinity.
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>>378177364
>not using your sock
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>>378177385
Not him but POTD is the most boring thing I've ever done in any video game.
>>378177424
Only part of it, you have to queue into many things to beat stuff. This is an MMO and about the cutscenes, fuck em I just watch em anyway. If you're doing the main story ARR towards the end then you might want to skip the ones in Castrum since the cutscnes are so long. Watch those ones in the inn instead.
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>>378176994
It seems like they're intentionally making some classes more casual than anything the game's ever had besides PLD and ARR BRD, then having some that play pretty similarly to HW classes, and some that are even a bit ramped up in complexity.

It sounds like DRK is really tough to play well, and I'd bet that MCH and either AST or SCH are also a big step up from current class design.
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>>378177043
I mind movement in fights overall it just sucks on a blm until you know the fight inside out.

Smn is easier to learn a fight with a lot of movement
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>>378164237
None, I'm starting a new character probably
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>>378176871
>realise next tier of raiding is going to be running around like headless chicken
People unironically think that this is fun.
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>>378177523

Was there really a guild of Everquest players that did this or is this like an MMO history urban legend?
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>>378177750
But why?
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>>378167956
>Armorer
My nigga. The ARM lady a qt.
Geva is best though.
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>>378177012
Rankings were a mistake. The only reason why we can't start from floor 101 and 151. I'm not going to grind to 200 from 50.
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>>378177603
>Watch those ones in the inn instead.
oh, so theres a way in-game to watch the cutscenes? thats good. I didnt want to bother watching them on youtube.
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>>378177451
>pull Twintania
>get your face destroyed in the first GCD
>Cure II
>WHM pulls aggro
>Provoke, get aggro before the WHM dies
>Lustrate
>lose aggro again
>wipe
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>>378177735
That's kinda been BLM's whole thing since Second Coil though, hasn't it?

>New raid tier releases
>wtf all these forced-movement mechanics, BLM sucks this tier, SMN is way better
>Learn the fights
>BLM turns out to be the better caster
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>>378177841
Cause I feel like it. I kinda wanna go through the game again with all the changes
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>>378178001
>That's kinda been BLM's whole thing since Second Coil
BLM was so pathetic in SCoB that Yoshida buffed Fire to a ridiculous 180 potency.
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>>378177938
Yeah if you go to your main city's Inn you can go to the inn room. There you can use the book to watch any important cutscenes again.
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>>378177994
>Healer casts Lustrate after shield toss
>We wipe and static disintegrates
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>>378177828

yes

the leader of said guild is this guy
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How do I make gil with mining?
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>entire expansion of Yugiri's shit voice acting
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BTN/MIN and NIN at the moment. Not really planning to do much with the gatherers once they're at 60, just don't want to have to work as hard to get them up once Stormblood hits. NIN is more to hedge my bets against MNK being bad in Stormblood after the first patch nerfs them out of being Chakra gods.
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>>378177828
There were two old Internet Stories that merged into the one term

One was just a generic crazy roommate story where it turned out the guy had a closet full of socks filled with his own shit

The other was an EQ addict roommate story where the guy was so addicted to the game that he would shit down into the space between his bed and the wall rather than leave the computer

I guess poopsock was just the funnier mental image to describe guys like the second story
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>>378178343
Can't wait.
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>>378178343
>yugiri saying more than three words at once
she's the best ninja cause she gets mistaken for a potted plant all the time
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>>378178343
It's good in the only language that matters
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>>378178278
Get a bot and make it mine shards all day and night.
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>>378177012
>try for days trying to get to 200 on release
>never get it, always wiping to dumb shit with groups
>always boring as shit, getting grouped with at least one guy who is just there to get carried every single time
>always feel like it's a fucking race against the clock in later floors
>give up
>finally try again last few days with friends
>beat it with a 2xmnk, 1xsch comp
>never once worried about clock time
PotD is a fucking meme.
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>>378178343
>no option to kick the elf twins to the curb and go on adventures with Darkness-kun or Aymeric
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>>378178510
wait, so you did it with 3 people and no tank? How'd you manage the 190 boss? I've heard it's legendary for being a complete asshole if you can't soak some of the tankbusters.
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>>378176994
>NNNOOOO THIS GAME DOES NOT APPEAL TO MY SUPERIOR REFINED TASTES AND CHANGES THINGS IN WAYS I DO NOT FEEL IS APPROPRIATE MY LIFE IS OVER
Just play another game m8.
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>>378178169
BLM was actually phenomenal in SCoB, it was players who were so pathetic that they couldn't figure out how to maintain uptime. Right around the time 2.3 came out there were just starting to be good BLMs who weren't little bitches who could do really good damage -and then Yoshi overbuffed them so hard that SMN was in the dumpster until mid-HW.
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>>378178719
I want Aymeric to give me a kiss.
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Do you guys think PLD or DRK would compete against each other in 4.0 with WAR offtanking, or can PLD and DRK finally live together in one happy raid group.
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>>378164819
>tfw WAR is my favorite class in an mmo ever
>tfw keep trying to go back to WoW but the the tank classes are lame as fuck and I can't stick to one
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>>378178754
FoE MNK with Steel active the whole fight.
Even with that the SCH was on almost 100% heal duty and the MNK was a whiff away from death more than a few times.
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>>378165436
Don't forget the femroes
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>>378178991
Well this is upsettingly accurate.
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>>378165436
>tfw going to use it on my Knife ear
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>>378165436
another hair to the list of "things i will never use"
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>>378176994
You got a single fact to back that up?
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>>378178924
they said that they're reworking damage formulas and skills so they can make all tanks have equal MT and OT potential.
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>>378178924
I would love for DRK/PLD to be interchangeable with DRK bringing a bit more damage while PLD brings a bit more support. It won't happen, one will be clearly better than the other forcing people into playing it while WAR is the eternal OT.
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>>378175214
> I'm demanding people give up their lives so that my games can be harder
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>>378165436
It's fine if I put it on my Elezen right ?
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Since FFVII is the best Final Fantasy, what are the odds of getting more content referencing it?
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>>378179291
I really hope thats true. I have both PLD and DRK at 60 just in case but still.
>>378179298
Thats my hope, and my fear. I really would love for PLD to be viable again but I keep having this sinking feeling that if it is viable, it'd kick out DRK entirely.
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>>378164819
I'm not. Every time I launch a MMO I get the thought in the back of my mind "you could be doing anything else."
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>>378178865
I want Aymeric to insert stuff into my ass.
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>>378178924
I could see DRK getting more OT tools. The job previews showed a lot more offensive skills with only one new defensive one, that being the shield which they can use on other party members or themselves.
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>>378178924
WAR and DRK competing for OT, PLD undisputed best MT except in extremely easy/outgeared content where you can't even leverage defense into extra offenders.
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>>378178924
Its theorized that PLD/DRK might be the new meta with all the WAR changes, I just wanna be one big happy trio.
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>>378179475
I'm a sissy girly fuckboi and I like men and crossdressing, but I want Aymeric to be my husband.
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>>378164819
I like it
Or is this not a valid answer?
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>Finish the Heavensward initial MSG
>now at a point where I have to farm a fucking library for fucking gear.
>Stormblood in three weeks.

fuck what do I do ?
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>>378179423
Well, with the stupidly fast mount land speeds in 4.0, their excuse for not putting Cloud's bike in is void.
Other than that, probably 0.
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>>378179429
I main DRK and I'm afraid of PLD becoming so much better than DRK that I'll be forced to change to PLD if I want to MT. I don't mind PLD I just enjoy DRKs wack-a-mole OGCD playstyle. I would play WAR but I can't stand playing OT in 90% of the content available, all you do is DPS and pick up some mobs halfway into a fight then back to DPS.
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>>378179589
If you wait, they'll probably make the 3.x story quests give you gear like the 2.x ones do.
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>>378179429
I've read somewhere that the new DRK skill is a mini hallowed ground for 1 hit.
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>>378179608
The very first thing Yoshi said after announcing higher mount speeds is that he's not putting the shitty Cloud bike in.
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>>378164237
MCH but I will play RDM too. By next week MCH should be 60. RDM looks better than I thought.
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>>378179819
Then absolutely 0.
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>>378179896
$5 is a ripoff considering that black desert is F2P in russia and korea.
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>>378179423
There's already shitloads of FFVII references. The Gold Saucer and the security there dressed as Turks. The Lifestream. The ceruleum plants in Northern Thanalan are mako reactors and there's even a mountain formation there like the one near Nibelheim. Nael van Darnus was a Sephiroth stand-in and had her own little fire walk scene. DRK's /bstance is Cloud's stance. Materia.
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>>378179589
If you've done 3.56 you can probably just go to SB and buy vendor gear
If not, you can wait and get gear from quests
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Calling it now, WAR vs DRK in SB is going to be like MNK vs DRG in HW. WAR has slightly higher personal DPS, is much easier to play, and has a legion of fans who desperately want to play it, but DRK brings more damage to the party as long as you have someone who can play it well.
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>>378179896
Not worth it.
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>>378164819
I started playing it because it had many wizard hats, and I wanted to play a wizard wearing wizard hats. I stayed because BLM is genuinely fun, the game looks pretty and is designed in ways that appeal to me, has great music, an alright story, fun content, and I've found a group of friends to play with.

I won't play WoW because it has shit wizard hats and I couldn't possibly decide on a race because they all look awful. Also the magic looks unimpressive, and I don't care for its world at all. But mostly the quality of wizard hats is lacking.
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>>378179953
See >>378179962
Also, most of the Limit Breaks are from VII.
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>>378164819
got what I wanted out of WoW back in WotLK and never looked back until legion, which was fun until endgame.
WoW has a shitty artstyle with shitty class balance that they constantly hamfist in hotfixes to piss everyone off. the raids are mostly a crapshoot now with mechanics literally spelt out to you with DBM which has become mandatory in every raid group because the game is now balanced around it.
The Community in WoW is also wonked out of its mind too. everyone is either some 40-year-old beta motherfucker who acts like a stereotypical 00's white knight with a more grizzled voice. or a complete tool who thinks he's got shit because he follows WoWhead and IcyVeins like the word of god. Unless you're part of the inner circle of a guild no one fucking talks and are just there for the buffs and heirloom vendors.
FFXIV may not fix all of those problems, and I do agree that the core combat in WoW is more responsive and active, but everything about the game outside of the core core gameplay is awful and generic at this point. I at least enjoy the music and aesthetics of FFXIV, and I have a group of people to play with that aren't just playing the game because they have nothing else to do. ur gay
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>>378179975
>>378179961
>>378179896
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>>378179896
>buy to play
>still get treated like f2p
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>>378179979
>I started playing it because it had many wizard hats
Are you me?
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>>378179896
Yeah but how's the game?
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>>378180053
That's Vindictus. And that's even worse than Black Desert.
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>>378179704
>>378179964
I've only just got done helping out the old witch and did the first run of the library and now I'am being cucked by item level requirements.

I'am pretty much fucked till expac from what you're both telling me.
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>>378180194
Get off your ass and find some gear. Are you actually this fucking helpless?
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>>378180194
>did the first run of the library
So youre not actually done with HW?
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>BDO shilling

Literally the only people I've seen play it are WoW and XIV burnouts that are looking for something to do in between patches and expansions, and they all admit the actual gameplay is trash.
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I just wanna be a PLD because their aesthetics are fucking top notch versus DRK or WAR.
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>>378177994
>pld only has to press 3 gcds on repeat the entire fight
>he somehow messes this up
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>>378167742
REmove potato, reMove potato..
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Yo, how is aoaue for gil purchasing? Asking for a friend.
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>>378179896
>shill bdo
>post a pic from Bless Online
>use "best housing" as a selling point for a shit game
pls go
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>>378180095
Single player game. Fun for a little while when you're exploring, collecting knowledge, levelling up, grinding life skills, and questing, but eventually you realize that you don't need to interact with any players at all and aren't really working towards anything unless you're pvping. You can also play a large portion of this game afk.
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>>378167742
Sup Dunebro. Wanna ERP?
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>>378179896
>buy the game
>it still has a f2p pay to win cash shop
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>>378180118
>Vindictus. And that's even worse than Black Desert.
Vindictus is better than FFXIV
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>Get kicked halfway through a PotD run without a single word.
It's not like I enjoy reporting people and crying it up to get them warned or anything.
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>>378180194
To enter SB you need to have finished HW and Post-HW.

That means you need to be at least i230.

You are fucked if you wait you lazy ass.
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>>378180593
Not even fucking close.
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>>378180484
gamereasy is legit.
but idk why would you want to buy gil now, gil is worthless unless you're into cosmetic shit.
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>>378179543
>you can have dinner with him as many times as you like
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>>378180683
Made an alt to play with a friend, and just want to speed through gearing up when SB hits after I max the jobs I play on my main. Mainly getting 60 gearing
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>>378180593
>"""action mmo""" meme game better than anything
I sure enjoying mashing this one button and winning without knowing why
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>>378179896
nothing worse than getting into a MMO only to get stomped on by NEETs that are 5000 hours ahead of you.
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>>378180593
The combat is action game tier but it's otherwise underwhelming.
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>>378180437
It's just shitposting, and ban evasion at that. Report and ignore.
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>>378179896
Why do you keep posting pictures of Bless Online with BDO?
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>>378180762
>you can nervously glance at servants pouring drinks for you as many times as you like
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>>378180762
Wait, wait, really? How?
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How fucked is your job
https://pastebin.com/LrVUsddn
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Fastest way to get Second Chance points? Tanking Trial Roulette or Ifrit maybe?
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>>378181006
Have you not been keeping up with the story?
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>>378181127
No, I did it, I just wasn't aware I could do it again.
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>>378181032
Main scenario roulette
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>>378180437
It's pretty shit. Might as well be a single-player game with a chatbox in the corner.
At least it's got a nice character creator. But it's so limited in every way that counts because of lazy korean devs.
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Anyone with a good memory mind, help me out a little. So I just finished my last relic book but that faggot at the north shroud won't work together with me. What am I supposed to do now?

I thought about returning the last book to the cat at Mor Dhona but the system message tells me that all the progress would be lost so I didn't jump the gun on that one yet.
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>>378181032
mentor roulette, story mode trials, looking in PF for bonuses.
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>>378181032
A1-8
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>>378181025
My main is MNK and it's looking pretty good, but my favorite healer is WHM.
>half my most important native skills are now Role Skills that will be taking up slots while AST and SCH get to keep basically all their important skills and take WHM skills as extra
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>>378181149
Remember inn magic. It's the first one in post-dragonsong main scenario.
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>>378180437
BDO is 3D maplestory, just an endless grind.

>>378181032
Select Ifrit, Garuda, Titan and the level 49 trial and pray.
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>>378181262
Speak to Jalzahn. He's next to a house across the clearing from Gerolt.
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>>378181339
Oh, I thought you meant that there was a quest that let you have another dinner with him and you could do it as many times as you liked or something.
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>>378164237
>not having everything leveled at this point in the expansion, what the hell have you been doing
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>>378178343
>being eop
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>>378179896
Isn't BDO that game that lets you literally alt tab AFK and the game levels your stuff for you?
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>>378181639
Only fishing.
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>>378181025
Everything we hear about DRK sounds awesome.
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>>378181025
>BLM
>Diversion, Lucid Dream, Swiftcast, Manashift
MIght be alright. I can probably swap LD for Erase or Addle, since without raging I won't be generating as much enmity anyway. I'm ok with giving people some mp because I have fucking infinite of it. Maybe between mp-ticks in UI.
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>>378181025
>nin

hopefully they get that one suicide explosion skill that ninjas have so i can end my life
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>>378179979
>wow magic
>colored orb flies at enemy
>Ff14
>cool Fucking explosions and huge ice blocks

It wasn't hard to choose desu
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Hopefully Ninjas suck alongside with Scholars. Can't have those two at the top all the time
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>>378164237
Just started playing. I've been playing Summoner for a while now.

I'm stuck with it if I want to get the story done with now, huh?
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>>378182092
It gets a lot better at 60.
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>>378181942
>trick attack then kassatsu into the chained jutsu thing
I think nin will be ok
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>want to play FFXIV
>Have to play monk or deal with the absurdly slow 2.5s gcd
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>>378181025
None of the jobs are fucked
Also who stole this from reddit
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>>378182092
you get a big leveling bonus for having a class at 50 so tough it out at least til then

it takes longer to get through the arr quests than it does to level in this game
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>>378182092
Yes, unless you want to power level using PotD to get another class to 60 and grind PvP gear.
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>>378182191
So I hear. Still, it feels so boring. I'm not sure what I expected but I clearly did not do my fucking research.
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>>378181025
>PLD

Completely unfucked as long as the HP to damaged req for spirits within is also removed.
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>>378181025
MCHBRD are either going to be amazing for another expansion or dumpstered and relegated to the cuckshed. Place your bets.
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>>378181467
It's like you have no heart.
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>>378181767
LD means ten(10)(X)(十) F4s in your open should be possible combined with everything else.
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>>378182363
Yeah It was easily the worst class in ARR. Have fun.
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>>378179979
>>378180079
>be a SMN
>game's full of wizard hats
>literally only 3 horn models
Fuck you wizards.
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>>378182385
MCH will be incredible, BRD will be fucked worse than NIN, WAR, and SCH combined
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>>378182396
It's just watching something that's already happened. It's not the same.
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>>378182459
Thanks!
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>>378182514
The horns look stupid. Worst AF piece that isn't 2.0 BRD pants.
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>>378182541
None of those are fucked though what are you talking about
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>>378182459
>SMN
>worst
JUST ROLL A BLM FFS
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>>378182247
there's always ninja or dark knight
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>tfw WAR master race for 2 more years
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>>378182428
Maybe, but if LD is like shroud of saints then I doubt we'll refresh mp fast enough to keep the F4 train rolling. If it does work out, then definitely pick it over diversion. We probably won't need both unless foul hits that hard, umbral hearts give us that huge an mp cost reduction, or triple cast has a short cd.
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>>378182675
>DRK
Having an attack speed buff doesn't change the fact that it's one of the simplest jobs and will get even easier in Stormblood.
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>>378182247
Play BLM. You'll be too busy waiting on cast times to notice GCDs.
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>yfw it's wars turn in the cuck shed
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>>378182863
DRK is actually the most difficult tank by far to maximize on.
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>>378182863
>will get even easier in stormblood
from the looks of it, looks like it will be getting harder. you not only have to manage MP but a darkness meter ontop. you're still going to have the same amount of skills you have now but now you gotta keep track of two meters in addition to buffs.
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>>378182863
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>>378182740
No more stance dancing, damage nerfed, Bloodbath removed, who the fuck will continue tanking and care about the tank meta?

It'll be like three ants discussing on who can carry the biggest leaf - nobody will give a shit.

I'm not sure what's oing on these nip's heads. Apparently their solution to the healer and tank unbalance is to add two highly requested DPS jobs, homogenize and remove whatever fun was left for us healers and tanks.
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>>378183046
If you didn't read your skills and try to follow a rotation you read online, sure.
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>>378182863
> it's one of the simplest jobs
what
I mean strictly in terms of comparison, it's easily in the top half of jobs in terms of "difficulty"
MNK, PLD, BLM, BRD, MCH, SMN and SCH are all inarguably simpler, and the rest are debatable except DRG and NIN which are probably the most complex/difficult to max potential.
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>>378183281
tanks still have stance dancing, they just removed the dancing from healers.
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>>378183281
>less people play tanks and healers, so lets make those classes more simple thus pissing off those who do play them

Great plan Yoshi!
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>>378183046
>>378183153
>my...job...takes....skill!
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>level all DoM jobs for the title
>decide I want a tank job too since I have DPS and healers already
>pick DRK because it's the most magic-like tank job
>SB jobs announced
>no new tanks
>that's ok, DRK will do
>job preview rolls in
>DRK gets even flippier, slashier, and edgier rather than more magic-augmented
Maybe I'll level PLD afterall.
They get that shield relic with the perma-protect visual effect on it. That could be cool.
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grrr garleans
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>>378183548
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>>378183471
>lose meter just to change stances
They should be encouraging this shit, not nerfing it.

"I don't like taking because it's too complicated and you can deal too much damage if you're good" - said nobody ever.
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>>378183503
so what would be your solution to make more people play tanks and healers? at the end of the day the majority of players in this game are gays and women. they avoid the alpha responsibility of tanking. healing is less alpha but it still is a bigger responsibility than dps.
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>>378183682
did you even watch the stormblood gameplay? paladin swapped between shield oath and sword oath and the meter stays the same amount.
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>all these babies implying there's even a single class let alone Tank that's harder to play than PLD pre-Shield Oath
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RghB8r4tA
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>>378183703
>so what would be your solution to make more people play tanks and healers?
Give them more unique rewards like the tank mounts. If that doesn't work, then just accept that only set percentage want to play those classes and don't fuck them over by ruining their classes for the sake of a "wider audience"
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>>378167742
true
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Now that nin is a chakra slave, what should I level for SB out of drg, brd, mch, war, and pld?
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>>378183682
Just need to get good and minimise the loss of your gauge. On WAR you can swap at 40, only lose 20 and build up to 50 with Maim+Path. At 60 you'll lose 30 and can build up to 50 with just Path. People that build up to 100 before swapping will do worse in both mitigation and DPS over the course of a fight.

>>378183793
PLD swapped at 20 and ended up with 10, losing 50%.
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>>378183859
They already said that they're boosting the adventurer in need rewards for tank and healers. Plus tanks get new flying mounts.
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>>378183831
>flash 3 times
>hardest tank job
Sounds about right
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>>378182623
NIN loses Shadewalker to tanks, Goad to all melee, and almost everyone has an answer to Trick Attack including Monks and Red Mages

WAR loses Path, is no longer the best choice for slashing debuff, is the least efficient and most heavily penalized tank for stance swapping, lost Internal Release and got a nerf to Berserk, and can't even do an Unchained opener anymore

SCH is going to have to put a ton of time into fairy upkeep and Deployment Tactics is going to take a pounding
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>>378184006
Rewards better be more tomes.
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>>378183831
I don't understand this meme, you just flash like twice than you press a button, tab, press another button, tab, press another button, tab, etc...
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>>378171321
DO WANT
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>>378183646
war is braindead too, fuck off
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>>378183859
>then just accept ect

I hope your dumbass never has to run a game kek.
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>>378184006
>tanks get new flying mounts
>healers dont get shit
Did a WHM call yoshi p a fag during a duty finder dungeon or something? Is that why he nerfs WHM into the ground and refuses to give any healers anything like the tank mounts?
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>>378182793
LD depending on how expensive it is at 70 might allow BLM to triple flare again.
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>>378184054
>WAR loses Path
This really pisses me off. We are tank, and we are losing our ability to mitigate damage to other players.
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>>378183831
>PLD pre-Shield Oath
It's really just Brayflox and Qarn that are a bitch. Haukke and below are balanced for not having tank stance, and Cutter's Cry syncs from 40. But those two are just
>flash
>flash
>flash
>need MP
>Riot Blade combo
>oh fuck almost lost aggro
>flash
>repeat
I am so happy for all of the post-SB leveling PLDs, they will never know the hell we knew.
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>>378165436
Is there gonna be another patch?
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>>378184006
>please don't have fun with samurai or red mage so you can get 30000 gil from your daily roulette
Really looking forward for those 40 min queues.
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>>378184198
it's going to be a reward from the make it rain event in GS on monday
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>>378184198

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2017/the_make_it_rain_campaign/
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>>378184165
They're obviously getting rid of 100% uptime debuffs and giving each tank skills like Divine Veil.
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>>378184134
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

He's been biased as fuck since 2.0 and it shows.
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>>378183915
Why is Saya so perfect?!
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>>378184134
Healers are just for being healsluts and commendation farming. Yoshi wants you to play a real job.
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>>378184165
not like you war players ever used path anyways because MUH dps
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>>378184165
cause
>Reprisal without having to parry
:^)
They just want to make it so PLD and DRK are a viable comp
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>>378184162
>tfw can't even double-flare on trash-pulls because I need that convert for my opener
At least aoe thunder works with thundercloud procs.
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>>378184363
Not my problem you Americans are shit at the game.
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Why are weebshits so defensive of any criticism to their loli generator?
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>mess around with keybindings
>do some PotD to try and adjust
>keep popping cooldowns trying to remember what I bound Character to
I mean this is why I'm doing PotD in the first place but still.
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>>378183682
DRK doesn't lose meter, just the other two
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>>378184073
Tanks think that's hard
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>>378184072
It wont be.
If they did tank players would gear up faster than anyone else, create a rift in which certain dungeons and such have no tanks queuing up because they out geared the places and make tank situation ten times worse.
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>>378184404
Max ethers.
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>>378184245
>not having tank friends for that glorious instant queue
you can always do POTD like the rest of the no friends randoms
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>>378183831
There's no difficulty unless you're undergeared. You just dont want to spam flash because that sucks.
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>weebshits happy that the game is copying wow's chink expansion
Can't make this up
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>>378184520
I'm too stingy for potions.
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>>378184521
>story quests requires a dungeon
>whole game comes to a halt for over 1h
I don't even main tanks but I honestly hope that SB "tanks" hard so those morons stop thinking that glamour will solve every single problem.
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>>378184396
>we'll make PLD viable by killing DRKs core abilities and giving it to PLD and WAR

yeah that sounds like SE
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>>378184521

>mfw i am the tank friend but won't queue with anyone that decides to play dps
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>>378177689
Pld and war are be entry level tanks. Pld more. Same goes for deeps and heals. Drk, mch and ast should be high skill high reward clases.
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>>378184319
like seriously, they pretty much moved everything unique WHM had to the new role cross class shit in 4.0 and gave them nothing new to make up for it. Is he just going to completely remove the job in 5.0

>>378184357
AST maybe, I wanna hit shit with my rocks without being out of mp 2 seconds into the fight cunt
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>>378184521
>avatarfagging
dont pretend you have friends either
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>>378184805
>Drk, mch and ast should be high skill high reward clases
But they don't require more skill than the other jobs in their roles.
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>>378184750
desu even as a DRK main who's going to miss the fuck out of Reprisal, it was a poorly designed skill, probably overpowered, and the game will be better for it being the gimpy cross-role version
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>>378184750
Man reprisal was shit couse parry is shit. We have no info on drk otside he has no penalty on stance dancing.
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>>378184750
>suddenly mad when its drk who becomes a direct downgrade like pld was for all of HW
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>>378184946
DRK and AST yes they do. And im not even talking about raw APM, im talking about sequencing your abilities in order while also doing your job.

You're just massively biased because you think this game is stupid easy. And while it is, if we're talking about any actual difficulty, DRK and AST take the cake for their respective roles.
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>>378184897
>avatarfagging
at least it's a video game picture related to this thread topic.

but you got me, I'm a lonely ass nigga.
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>>378184750
Its not like WAR didnt get fucked over just from losing the path debuff either.
no bloodbath, their OCD stun went from 20 seconds to 25 seconds (brutal swing animation for the stun is probably gone as well), stance swapping now has penalty and berserk got nerfed.
all so PLD could be viable :^)
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>>378185074
>DRK becomes the downgrade MT compared to PLD
>But WAR becomes the downgrade OT compared to DRK
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>>378181025
SMN Looks pretty great
DRK looks like it might be screwed if the new offense or the new utility aren't top notch

doesn't matter, still switching to RDM
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>>378182092
SMN was my first 60. If you're in it for the pet aspect just leave because the pet system is half-assed dog shit.

Until they make Contagion base-line and make all the egis like Bahamut, temporary but feels amazing when you use it, your pets are going to pretty much be shit. Titan-egi becomes trash the moment you hit HW and Garuda outclasses Ifrit just because of her Contagion. If you somehow like the pets then power to you. At least you get SCH when you level up SMN.
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>>378184750
to be fair, WAR's gap closer is not a oGCD. Also cross role reprisal is gonna be shit. it went from being a 200 potency ogcd with a long damage reduction duration to being a reskinned AST disable.
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>>378185119
then take your ugly ass to /xivg/
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>>378185171
PLD and DRK lost their halone and delirium. Losing path was nothing when you take that into consideration. WAR gained way more than the other tanks because we now have fucking rampart on top of our 3 core CDs. WAR's are going to be mitigation gods come 4.0.

>>378185201
WAR isnt going to be removed from the OT spot entirely because of the massive DPS it will be doing in 4.0. DRK and PLD will fight like dogs for the MT spot because SE is going to balance them well for the MT spot.
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>>378183323
Damn dude don't go full retard. It's complex but not that complex. Jesus Christ.
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>>378184520
I'll use max ethers on trash if you pay for them.
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>farming FATES, Hunting Log marks, and Leves while waiting for Leveling Roulette queues to fill out the Challenge Log
>all so when that level 49 quest pops up out of nowhere I don't won't have to see that red shit anywhere and keep going unabated
>currently level 44
>MSQ is only at 39
>taking my sweet ass time just to go through Heavensward as a SAM and get a huge head start through the Heavensward MSQ with the High Allagan set for SAM come Stormblood
>enjoying the slow approach and being able to really get immersed in the game
>once 50 hits gonna try to check out Binding Coil and other 50 stuff people ignore to jump straight onto HW

While everyone's rushing to get ready for Stormblood's MSQ I have achieved maximum zen.
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>>378185418
We have no leaks on drk for a reson. Say hello to top dps tank with huge lead.
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>Ping issues make me unable to play ninja properly
>Have no idea what class to reroll to

What do
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Now that sprint no longer drains TP, how much you bet every fight in Stormblood is now going to require the use of it to dodge mechanics.

>Return to ivalice first boss
>Boss digs into ground from center of the room
>Everyone has to sprint away from the center or get sucked into a trap
>If enough people get caught in the trap, it wipes the whole raid
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>>378185562
I didn't even bother with FATE's on my other characters. Literally exp waste when compared to PotD or Dungeon farming. They need to redo the rewards.
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>>378185608
Play Ninja improperly.
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>>378185562
Autism, most likely. Play how you want, don't be driven by numbers.
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>>378185291
>WAR's gap closer is not a oGCD
wut, it so is
watch the benchmark, the WAR uses it then immediately overpowers
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>>378185608
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>>378185608
Use mudfish.
If that doesn't work, reroll to Samurai. No 0.5s recast skills, just charge your blade and go ham.
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>>378185437
>completely ignoring the comment just to sound smart
there's this cool part that read "strictly in terms of comparison," you should check it out!!!
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>>378185780
Shut the fuck up. reddit trash. Like this dont have enough shitty weebs players.
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>>378185418
>WAR's are going to be mitigation gods come 4.0.
they really arent now that pld can block magic damage.
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>>378185562
>>378185894
See? Autism.
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>>378185931
PLD wasn't better than WAR even in physical fights.
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>>378185852
SA SHOULD BE PROTECTED
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>>378185931
> block
> chancebased mech
> good
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>>378185684
>yoshi putting raidwipe afk checks in content everyone afks in

no
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>>378185931
>inner beast
>vengeance
>thrill+conva
>rampart
>holmgang
vs.
>sentinel
>sheltron
>rampart
>hallowed

Can you get more fucked?
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>>378186016
>PLD wasn't better than WAR even in physical fights.
>this meme is still alive
>mememasters such as this dude is what will ruin tanks in SB
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>>378186046
>what is Ozma
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>>378185705
PotD ain't my cup of tea, honestly. I like doing things alone--my mistakes don't negatively impact others, and I'm not too pressured (t. meeting proper expectations because I'm retarded) to go out of my way to excel. Plus, playing without a FC is pretty lonely, but at the same time, it also really makes you stop and notice what's going on in the world aside from convenience of FC chat.

>>378185780
Wouldn't say it's that primarily, as most people have already long gotten their shit leveled up and are just now using the excuse to bust their asses to get the anima weapons done and gear up so the MSQ start of Stormblood is a lot smoother than ARR to HW.

That's the idea, though. To just take my time and have fun with it.

I really wish you could pure DPS and queue as a pure DPS as a GLD/PAL because I like the idea of the invisible shield glamor and just doing shit with a 1H sword and my own grit. Autism, in other words.
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>>378186067
oh and I forgot raw intuition. Thats 6 cooldowns to your 4.
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So far it seems like DRG is the only DPS job that got cucked. All they got was a red geirskogul and another thrust.
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>>378185418
SE does not intend or want to subdivide the tank role into main tanks and off tanks. If Stormblood does one thing for tanks, it will be to make PLD and DRK both viable as offtanks.

Further, it's likely that DRK will deal comparable or even greater damage than WAR, or at the very least will contribute more overall party damage (see: HW MNK vs DRG), as a reward for having a higher skill ceiling, which is something SE seems to be embracing.
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>>378186067
Oh hey, you're that retard who think that Convalescence and Thrill of the Battle are mitigations.

Still being an idiotic warfag I see.
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>>378186023
>sheltron
>passage of arms
>chance based
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>>378164819
Characters are cute, armors are cool, and some skills give you some really nice loking auras when activated.
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>>378186152
They used fang and claw then wheeling thrust so clearly something has changed.
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>>378186104
> delusional pldboy
> i play pld couse i like animations
> relic looks nice
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>>378186104
its true though. Raw intuition completely cucked PLDs and equilibrium made it so the RNG blocks that a PLD could get on auto attacks would never beat the massive self heal that came with equilibrium. They also had second wind to further bolster their tanking prowess and eliminating PLD as far as physical mitigation went.
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>>378186067
>>378186148
>leaving out bulwark and passage of arms
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>>378186240
I'm just hoping that the job skills video forgot to show all their skills.
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>>378186209
Mitigation increases your eHP while not making you harder to heal, Thrill+Conva does the exact same thing. Taking 25k damage when you have 50k HP is the same as taking 20k damage at 40k HP. Defiance is functionally almost identical to Shield Oath/Grit, and Thrill+Conva is functionally almost identical to a ~17% mitigation cooldown.
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>>378164237
>he doesn't already have everything at 60
git gud
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>>378186209
The basic form of survivability comes from eHp. Mitigation is a way to increase your eHP as it reduces incoming damage, making it so that you lose less of a % of your HP when you are hit and you need a regular heal to top you back to 100%.

if you increases your actual HP and also increase all healing done to you so that a 30% heal on the HP tank will be just as effective as a 20% heal on the mitigation tank, then you are effectively taking the same damage but using different methods to take it.

Get fucked, idiot.
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>>378186209
not the person you responded too but
Thrill of the battle is an instant 20% extra health pool that lasts for 20 seconds and can be recharged from healers
its so mitigation
you are right on convalescence though
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>>378185608
BLM.
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>>378186209
>Defiance is weaker than Shield oath because shield oath mitigates and defiance from what my tiny brain comprehends, does nothing

:^)
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Would it kill SE to make at least 1 fight where you must hallowed ground or living dead to survive a mechanic? Solo tank zurvan doesn't count.
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>>378186329
>ever using passage of arms outside of raid wide busters
>ever thinking SE will make content that will demand this skill
Bulwark is good though. That move became another rampart for PLDs.
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>>378186218
>Sheltron doesnt even make you invincible to the next attack, just a free block
>30 fucking second cooldown
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>>378186490
Personally I would say that mitigation is a subcategory of eHP increase but that's kind of a semantic issue and otherwise you're totally right.
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>>378185562
I'm gonna rush the MSQ because I know some retard is gonna spam spoilers before I finish it.
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>>378186597
I remember using holmgang in T13.
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>>378185883
Are you stupid? I know you're comparing them. I'm saying that comparison is wrong. And what kind of people do you hang out with that my previous post was "trying to sound smart"? It's not even that we disagree you're straight up not reading.
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>>378186490
What's the deal with FFXIV players trying to redefine what common MMO terms means?

I know this is babby's first MMO but common, that word has a clear meaning.
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Why did I only now realize that by queueing into shiva, ramuh, leviathan and moogle hardmodes as a tank gives 100 poetics for 2 minutes of work.

Shit would've been useful when I needed them for the relic
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>>378186657
why not, its only a 2 minute cd. let me guess, you save HG "for emergencies" too

>>378186660
inner beast is like a 20s cd roughly, but sheltron also gives you dps (and mp which looks like pld will start using more of)with shield swipe so its fine
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>>378186152
more like they changed dragoon to stop being so hairpullingly unforgiving

ninja, whitemage, and blackmage had a lot of their utilities turned into cross class skills (a whole 5 from white mage). The flipside is that may mean they're getting a few more "new" skills than other classes to make up for their skills being stripped from them
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>>378186920
Because you cant attack while you use it, dumbass. If you learned anything from the 3.0 tank meta, its that shit like divine veil and clemency does not fucking fly.
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>>378186920
More importantly, Shelton is available in Sword Oath, while Inner Beast requires that you gimp yourself into Defiance. And now with your Beast gauge being halved on stance swap instead of your stacks being maintained, you can't just switch in and out at will.
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>>378186874
If you take a new person into coil unsynced, you earn like 150 poetics for 2-3 minutes of work
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>>378186994
Drgoon was high high reward deeps. Its a good thing. Now its pile of garbage. Couse
> its hard to track dots
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>>378186920
>shield swipe
That skill that's getting removed in Stormblood?
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man I remember when Heavensward was just coming out and the /v/ threads wouldn't stop. Now the same
shit is happening for Stormblood.
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>>378187083
True and the same applies to those primals. Pretty much guaranteed bonus since there's no reason to do them for experienced players.
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>>378186786
>I'm saying that comparison is wrong.
You said nothing of the sort, what the fuck are you babbling about. All you said was "DRK isn't that complex dude take a chill pill" when all I said was that compared to other jobs it is, even if it isn't actually that complex, because the person I replied to said that it was one of the least complex jobs. I hope you enjoy your day ESL-kun.
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>>378187036
you mean the dps meta that hasnt actually mattered since gordias?
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>>378187187
Using Phleb after every CT isn't what makes DRG challenging to play anon.
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>>378187036
>you cant attack while using it so it doesnt count as a real cd

move that goalpost back thanks
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>>378187187
A lot of classes have high ceilings, they're trying to reduce the variety of DPS it seems

at least for people who know how to push more than one button. can't help those kind of people.

except for pvp apparently
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>>378187246
Want to talk about Persona 5 or something?
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>>378187416
Yeah thas what you get is balancing game acording to reddit.
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>>378182863
It's literally the most difficult job in the game right now.

It's not a hard job to play by any means, but compared to everything else in the game, it's the only one that requires a modicum of skill. If you play it well, you do more damage than WAR and tank better than PLD. If you don't play well, you're worse than both.
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>>378187486
makoto is a anal slut
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>>378187486
Kawakami is the best girl
Tae comes in close second
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>>378187576
Stop spoiling shit. I haven't gotten to play it yet.
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>>378187529
Literally any DPS, AST and SCH are all significantly more complicated than DRK.

>more damage than WAR
You can match WAR if you can press off-gcds as soon as they're up.
> tank better than PLD
You have pretty much identical cooldowns to PLD, that doesn't take more skill.
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>>378187408
You wont be using this ability to take less damage unless you truly do not care for optimizing your play. if that is the case then clemency is clearly the greatest move ever since you can heal yourself immediately after every buster. And shit, may as well keep tank stance on 100% of the time
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>>378184521
>tfw tank with no friends to give instant queues to
time to kill myself I guess
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>Now that all the weebs and 13 year olds have SAM you can finally play DRG without being lumped in with them

Dying to AoE's here i come
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