>nuke goes off only a few miles from them >they look directly

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>>378161532
Todd Howard was never really good with realism.

it's a video game

>>378161659
so?

>>378161723
so it doesn't matter

>>378161738
so if it's a videogame nothing matters?

>>378161872
only some things

google "rule of cool" and stop being autistic

>>378161872
I know you are being sarcastic, but this is unironicly true.

You can go blind from the light?

In a game with talking mutants, you're arguing about realism?

Is that what that retard said when someone pointed out the Jet being mentioned in a prewar terminal entry?

>>378161532
It's almost as if vidya isn't real life.

>>378162104
Yeah, the flash will emit more light than your eyes can take in so it will blind you from being too bright.

>>378161659
>>378162137
Sup Hines, you look weird and greasy.

>>378162104
yes, the flash is so bright your eyelids won't do shit

>>378162213
What if I look slightly away so I can still see with my peripheral?

>>378162104
The flash itself is also bright enough to burn any exposed skin

You were right.

I was north of Spanish Fork. Took the 77 along Provo Bay to steer clear of town. Would've been home in an hour. Engine died, truck just stopped. So did a Chryslus in the other lane. Knew right away.

First nuke hit SLC inside a minute. I was looking South - Lucky Man! Flash behind me so bright world looked on fire. Old couple from the Chryslus starts screaming they can't see.

Didn't watch you die, Char. Saved my eyes. Counted 12 more flashes next 7 minutes. Ground shook each time, 18 seconds later.

When nothing hit for half an hour, took a look. Globe of fire where you and Alex died. Didn't kid myself.

Didn't know what to do. Grabbed my pack and rifle.

Saw to the old couple. Sat them up against car, let them hold and comfort each other. Told them I was going to get help, everything be okay. One bullet through both heads. Instant.

Five day hike back to Zion.

>>378161872
>muh realism

you should consider killing yourself

>>378162308
>>378162345
Then why do movies do the whole shockwave thing until it reaches the person and burns them then? Like Terminator etc.

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>>378162104
What, did you think they wore those glasses because they look cool?

>>378162478
Rule of cool.

>>378162478
Light moves faster then the shockwve

>>378162481
Well I remember them saying this shit about the Eclipse back when I was a kid, but I looked at it and I can still see.

>>378161872
Right. They aren't actually people standing next to an actual nuclear blast, it's there for story telling purposes. Lighten up.

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>>378161532
Why are you being pissy again? Because Bethesda did it? Fuck off, 90% of Fallout lore has been magic nonsense ever since the first game came out.

>>378162478
because movies aren't realistic anon

>>378162638
a nuke and an eclipse is two very different things though

>>378162638
Dummy, you locked your thought chakra.

I wish you couldn't get banned for posting images of people eating scat, because that's the only way to describe anyone who defends Fallout 3 and 4.

>>378162761
>>378162783
>>378162801
So the flash would burn your skin, blind you and then the shockwave would do the rest?

who was in the wrong here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlPnHAYp2Fk

>>378162981
Why are you asking me? I only know about eclipses and their cosmic effects on us.

>>378162981
and then comes the radiation

>>378162981
>That_anime_of_hiroshima_bombs.webm

>>378163145
not him but tell me more please anon

>>378163115
Why didn't we just bomb their troops? Why'd we attack the civilians?

>>378162371
God I fucking loved finding that dude's journals

>>378163253
because the illuminati love human sacrifices on a big scale

>>378163253
Because MURICA, any excuse to test trial a bomb on an actual target.

>>378163253
you had already firebombed a whole lot more civilians
only moral fags think the nukes where somehow worse
it was a rational move to force and end to the ar before the soviets got more time to occupy land in asia and too save soldiers

>>378163253
Demoralization

http://www.psywarrior.com/JleafletsPacWWII.html
>These leaflets are being dropped to notify you that your city has been listed for destruction by our powerful air force. The bombing will begin within 72 hours.

>This advance notice will give your military ample time to take the necessary defensive measure to protect you from our inevitable attack. Watch and see how powerless they are to protect you.

>We give the military clique this notification of our plans because we know there is nothing they can do to stop our overwhelming power and our iron determination. We want you to see how powerless the military is to protect you.

>Systematic destruction of city after city will continue as long as you blindly follow your military leaders whose blunders have placed you on the very brink of extinction. It is your responsibility to overthrow the military government now and save what is left of your beautiful country.

>In the meantime; we urge all civilians to evacuate at once.

>>378162371
RIP in Peace Randall Clark
never5get

>>378163429
Good little cuck.

>>378162338
the light itself will penetrate your eyes. I dont think you understand how terribley destructive these things are. They are not cool and you should not be enthralled by them. you should fear them. they are weapons of complete and utter destruction not fun toys for the big guys. there is a reason every country on earth keeps those things under complete and total security. Even world leaders fear those things.

>>378161958
>>378161990
>>378162374
>>378162659
>dude lmao rules of reality don't matter in a story focused game
kill your parents then yourselves

>>378162659
So for storytelling purposes I can blow my main characters head off and then he can grow it back in 10 seconds without explaining it?

>>378163252
Eclipses are the collection of every single human's ignorance of the cosmic truths. Staring at one allows your spirit to absorb a small bit of the whole, more than enough to corrupt your chakra; it's one of the only ways to actually destroy a chakra.

>>378161532
>HURRR DURRR !!! XD
It takes light some time to travel, you fucking retard. It's not some instantaneous force that just magically teleports to your location.
Ever wondered why you can hear thunder before the lightning flash? Dumbass.

>>378163620
So you're ok with ghouls and giant mutated scorpions and mutant orc people but seeing a nuke blast is where your realism autism flares up?

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It was a fake memory implanted into the synth.

>>378163253
Because a nuke by it's very nature targets civilians, you don't build a bomb that can take out a city because you are looking to be precise, that's the whole point of nukes, everyone is a target.

>>378163754
Pete pls

>>378161532
speed of light isn't that fast, at the distance the nuke denotated it would take 5-10 seconds for the flash to reach them, by which time they're already in the bunker
do your research before you shitpost

>>378163741
hmm

>your son gets abducted etc you are sole survivor
>if you literally do anything other than the main quest immediately then you break character relateability

this is why i hate FO4's story the most ever

>>378163741
the speed of light. on earth with are scales the speed of light might as well just be instant.

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>>378163741
>hear thunder before the lightning flash

>>378163958
are you fucking retarded. the speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s on any place on the world that would be pretty much instant.

>>378163253
Shock&Awe

>>378163754
Yes, retard

>>378163572
You shouldn't talk about your mom's ass like that

>>378163572
>I dont think you understand how terribley destructive these things are.
I don't think anyone does unless they see it themselves, but then they'll be dead.

>>378163980
Fallout 1 is the only one that did it right by having a time limit

>>378163754
You can't just hand wave any problems with your games lore by saying "it's not real life", particularly when you are being lazy and completely ignoring things established in previous games. Pete Hines is a literal retard and Bethesda's writing staff is shit.

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>>378163741

Yeah, and radiation totally creates ghouls and supermutants irl. Fallout has never been about realism, it's supposed to be ridiculous. It's like you pretend to have played the classic Fallouts and shit on Bethesda for all th wrong reasons. They fucked a lot of shit up, sure, but shit like this has been in Fallout universe since day one. Radiation is literally whacky as fuck magic there.

>>378163253
their troops don't all bunch up in a small obvious area for you to drop a bomb on them
the point of the bombs was to demoralize the nation into surrender, they were already defeated in the military sense

>>378163253
Since you're making world-destroying mistakes, might do it all the way!

>>378164407
To add to that, a nuclear weapon is not a first resort weapon to take care of some measly troops. Its a be all end all solution. Basically strong arm your enemy into submission like the US did with japan. You cant fight an enemy who wields the powers to obliterate one of your cities without sparing any troops. That is why ww3 won't be a traditional war but it will be the final war and we will all burn in nuclear holy fire.

>>378161738
It does matter, because world building and believability is extremely important for RPGs.

It's just another proof that FO4 is a terrible RPG.

>>378162338
You'd still go blind, your eyes can't handle it at all no matter how little of your eye you use to watch it

>>378164706
no RPGs or video games in general are realistic

>>378164691
Missile shields are developing. Look at Israel. They can shoot down tiny mortar rounds in metal casing launched from Gaza. Soon nukes won't mean a thing.

>>378162371
>Saw to the old couple. Sat them up against car, let them hold and comfort each other. Told them I was going to get help, everything be okay. One bullet through both heads. Instant.

._.

Creative mediums take artistic liberty with how things actually work in order to deliver an experience, a message or whatever they're intended to.
Obviously this freedom should be used wisely, carefully and always with consideration that it serves to improve the experience. Random unnecessary wacky stuff in an otherwise grounded story could be included, but would make it worse if the serious tone is important.
Things like how nuclear explosions work in reality, how radiation works in reality and so on don't matter in delivering the things Fallout gives to the players.
What matters are how they exist in the minds of those who will consume Fallout. The mushroom cloud may not be exactly the way it would be, maybe they get some details wrong, but from the perspective of the experience, it really doesn't matter because the idea of the world ending is properly communicated.

If a novelist writes a good book, where distances between real world places are relevant to a murder mystery and he gets the distances wrong, that wouldn't invalidate the book or make it worse. Mostly because people don't know random distances off the top of their heads.

>>378163253
Because obliterating shitty little islands in the pacific doesn't have the same psychological factor of obliterating cities on the mainland.

And it was before the world got uppity about killing civilians so it was okay

>>378163620
Friendly reminder that there are children on /v/ RIGHT NOW. that are so autistic it prevents them from spreading fiction from reality.

>>378164825
>realistic
Read:
>>378164706
>believability

>>378164828
deflecting a missle doesnt magicly make it not go off. It will either blow up in the air or land in some shithole they decided to intercept it at to blow it up. If 15 nukes are flying your way you ares still fucked unless you can deflect them into the ocean even then 15 nukes going off at once if we are talking tsar level. will probably radiate the entire earth and we are fucked by cancer anyways.

>>378162275
BLUE BOARD

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Why is all the vegetation dead in Fallout?

This is Chernobyl.

>>378161532
https://youtu.be/lBZsYceH4nM

>>378165020
what's the difference? a game doesn't present the science of a large explosion correctly, it doesn't present the science of mutations caused by radiation correctly either
it's a video game

>>378164828
Missile defenses don't matter if you can just overwhelm them with sheer numbers. We already have defense systems in place but that doesn't make nukes irrelevant

>>378161958
>DUDE RULE OF COOL LMAO
I bet you complain about plot holes or things not happening in movies as well.. jesus christ

>>378163980
I feel like they could have made the time between Shaun's abduction and Survivor's awakening about 80-100 years apart, with the time of each pod opening logged in the terminal for the Survivor to find. That way the survivor is given a blank slate to start a new life, thinking that Shaun is most likely dead by then, only to find him using some life-prolonging shit to run the Institute, should the Survivor join a faction that intends to destroy Institute.

>>378165151
there is a difference between big nuclear blasts destroying kilometers of land and fallout from a factory. Then again after 200 years plants would be back anyways.

>>378165151
I always loved the Ferris Wheel in Chernobyl, it's a beautiful touch. Is this place seriously still damaging to people?

>>378164920
>And it was before the world got uppity about killing civilians so it was okay

Nah it was already a thing a few decades back when yellow journalism became a thing.

>>378161532
>so you're telling me these people wouldn't be instantly blind from the light?
No they wouldn't. Why do you think they would?

>>378165310
Hiroshima and Nagasaki don't look like fallout.

Fallout literally has super duper magical nukes to explain the massive desert wastelands

>>378165151
Nuclear weapons do a really good job at burning everything down
Fallout should be set a year or less after the war to explain the lack of vegetation and buildings that aren't just some shitty little houses

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>>378165020
So the entire game is totally believable when it involves magic radiation n shiet but when an explosion that is featured for a mere second it isn't?

>>378165486
ya but we have tsar bombs 100 time more potent than the one used on japan. but ya fallout is ridiculous about the vegatation.

>>378165452
The bright initial flash of a nuclear weapon is the first indication of a nuclear explosion, traveling faster than the blast wave or sound wave. "A 1-megaton explosion can cause flash blindness at distances as great as 13 miles on a clear day, or 53 miles on a clear night. If the intensity is great enough, a permanent retinal burn will result."

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this is what happens when you look into a nuclear detonation without eye protection

Not only should they have been blinded, at that distance they probably should have been more or less instantly vapourised

>>378162104
Yes, but that's the least of your problems. Your skin will peel away immediately.

>>378165314
Some people are living there and are fine
And the plant itself was operational until 2000 and the workers were also just fine

Flight from western Europe to ukraine and back would give you far more radiation than a week in the zone
As long as you avoid hotspots

>>378165314
Depends what you mean by damaging.
Many large animals live in the area and survive what radiation there is.
Birds in particular exhibit visible malformations that can get in the way, but not enough to kill them or make them die of hunger. Oddly turner beaks at the end and other small things.
Wolf are in the area too and are tracked by scientists.
Humans could probably survive provided they don't go near the actual plant, but who the fuck would take the chance, the place has nothing to offer.

>>378163508
That's metal as fuck

>>378164367
But the Fallout universe has already established that being that close to one of the bombs in the Great War was certain death and will also definitely blind you if you look at it

>>378161532
>>378161723
>>378161872
Just austims my shit up its a fucking video game a VIDEO GAME! Which game is actually realistic every game has some kind of flawed logic that isn't comparable to real life.

>>378163253
WWII America was exterminationist as fuck.

Like, killed 2,200,000 German and Japanese citizens in firebombings because they were considered subhuman vermin exteriminationist.

>>378163754
mutated scorpions and mutants could possibly exist. fantasies need to have rules based in the real world to make it believable. it's called suspension of disbelief. where mutants and mutated scorpions could exist, we know for a fact that looking at a nuclear blast can blind you and it ruins your suspension of disbelief

it's not like that was the only thing wrong with fo4

>>378163508
>Watch and see how powerless they are to protect you. God damn.

>>378165314
You can visit chernobyl via guided tours. The guides are taught which areas are and aren't safe to walk through.

>>378165821
>>378165829
I remember reading about some photographers that went down to the core of the meltdown, and due to radiation or for some other reason they had to use a mirror to photograph the actual nuclear meltdown.

Why would they need to use a mirror?

>>378163253
Because the U.S wanted to discourage the Soviets from seizing Manchuria.

>>378165486
large amount of nuclear bombs being detonated send tons of ash and radioactive particles into the atmosphere, which spread out across the world on the wind and pretty much kill everything
hence the desert
also fallout 1,2 and New Vegas actually take place in pre-war deserts

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>>378164178
SAVAGE

>>378166001
Radiation fucks with electronics (and also with film)
Probably to allow some shielding around the camera without blocking the lense

>>378165887
The problem isn't realism, it's that it goes against what was already clearly established in earlier Fallout games
Internal consistency is important for any work of fiction, but is especially vital in fantasy or science fiction

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>>378161532
Not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls.

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>>378166001
the core has been covered in concrete

>>378166001
I read this somewhere before. Some radiative sludge that is so dangerous even looking at it kills you in minutes. Photographs taken of it had to use mirrors since it would probably destroy the camera film and a lot of other things

>>378166001
Because being in direct line of sight to something thats spewing radiation is a good way to die a bad death

>>378166285
>>378166252
>>378166180
Wasn't it called the Elephant's Foot?

>>378163697
Yeah. It's a made up story, anything goes.

>>378161626
These pip boy videos are great

>>378163620
>fallout 4
>story focused

But you're cool with the institute making their own slaves and making them self aware enough to want to escape. And any other of the million plot holes.

But. "Muh blindness" is your current autism fit, huh.

>>378166372
That's what we call a bad story, which fits since it's Fallout 4.

>>378163741
I'll take speed of light for 500

Even the survivalist's story included how an elderly couple both lost their sight when facing a nuclear blast while he was lucky to be facing the other way or something.

>>378166472
>But you're cool with the institute making their own slaves and making them self aware enough to want to escape
No, that's just what the OP mentioned. Should every single post that criticizes an aspect of Fallout 4s story include criticism of literally everything else? Or are you just a fucking retard?

>>378166365
Yes
http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/the-elephant-foot-of-the-chernobyl-disaster-1986/

>>378163741
I know your heart is in the right place but you definitely got your example backwards. You see the flash THEN hear thunder.

I know it's past bedtime, go ahead and put the computer down.

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>>378166365
The so called Elephant’s Foot is a solid mass made of melted nuclear fuel mixed with lots and lots of concrete, sand, and core sealing material that the fuel had melted through. It is located in a basement area under the original location of the core. In 1986 the radiation level on the ”Elephant’s Foot” was measured at 10,000 roentgens per hour, and anyone who approached would have received a fatal dose in under a minute. After just 30 seconds of exposure, dizziness and fatigue will find you a week later. Two minutes of exposure and the body cells will soon begin to hemorrhage; four minutes: vomiting, diarrhea, and fever. At 300 seconds you have two days to live.

In May of 1986, construction began on the sarcophagus—a gigantic concrete enclosure built to seal off the radiation from the outside world. But it’s not entirely sealed: the Chernobyl sarcophagus was outfitted with access points allowing researchers to observe the core and workers to enter. The contents of the Chernobyl tomb will remain radioactive for at least the next 100,000 years. All of the fire fighters and people who worked in building the sarcophagus died around a year or so after the event.

>>378166793
>>378166781
Yeah, seems pretty damn scary.

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>>378163253
Demoralization

It was for the best honestly. The two nukes killed at most 225,000 people. The alternative was invading mainland Japan, that would have ended with the deaths of millions on both sides.

>>378165919
not anywhere near that number. japan were seen as savages and many civilian deaths were due to the japanese committing mass sudoku because they thought americans would treat them as badly as the japanese treated chinese prisoners. we can never get an accurate assessment of how many japanese civilians were killed at the hands of the usa due to mass suicides

>>378163253
Demoralize Japan and let the Soviets know we had a big, working FUCK OFF bomb so they wouldn't invade Japan and would stop their European advance at Berlin

>>378167389
most civilian deaths in japan are from the firebombing

>>378167630
no evidence

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>200 years go by
>Society hasn't reformed itself
>Still just the same, shitty wasteland
>Everything you build defaults to shitty broken and splintered planks of wood and rusty sheet metal

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Something I never understood about Fallout is how they somehow managed to keep the whole 50's style in vogue for over a hundred years or whatever the fuck. Maybe I just don't know enough about Fallout but it seems weird to me since that's not how style works at all. It would make more sense if there was a 50's fetishism resurgence shortly before the nukes went off but that wouldn't explain how widespread it really is, IE every single building and object looks like it's from the 50's.

Also since we're on the topic of nukes, I don't think there's enough fear of atomic war in this day and age. I know we like to think we live in relatively safe times, and we do compared to the Cold War era, but all it takes is some jackass in North Korea to jump the gun and suddenly we're facing atomic genocide. I really wish they'd teach at length lessons of the horrors of nuclear war in school so we could at least of a chance of the nuclear disarmament in a couple generations. There's just absolutely no reason why we should have something so absolutely destructive and every day we still have nukes is a day closer to total annihilation.

It's easy to stick your head in the sand and think "well, it hasn't happened yet and there's no way it would happen to ME", but it's much more likely than you think. If you live in the US, I urge you to mess around with this map to get an idea of how there are very few places you'd be safe from nukes.
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
I know it seems silly to be moaning about this on 4chan of all places, but nukes are no joke and I fear media like Fallout puts up a weird barrier that pushes the horrors of nuclear war out of reality and into fiction in people's minds.

>>378167978
Stop posting.

>>378167683
yeah the holocaust didn't happen either

>>378167978
the only people North Korea will genocide are themselves

>>378168370
>yeah the holocaust didn't happen either
yes exactly

>>378168125
Why do you want me to stop posting, anon?

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> “The whole country was lighted by a searing light with the intensity many times that of the midday sun. It was golden, purple, violet, gray, and blue. It lighted every peak, crevasse, and ridge of the nearby mountain range with a clarity and beauty that cannot be described but must be seen to be imagined. It was that beauty the great poets dream about but describe most poorly and inadequately.”

Robert Oppenheimer after the Trinity test.

>>378161872
literally yes

>>378163760
THIS

>>378166252
I am 100% sure this stupid russian is dead from super cancer. The photo quality is not shitty because of bad cameras. The radiation distorts your photos something fierce.

Anyone walking into this room is asking for a death sentence.

>>378167978

You're retarded. If not for nuclear weapons we would be on WW5 by now. Nukes are the greatest harbingers of peace mankind has ever known. The one thing that could ever make us stop killing each other is mutually assured destruction.

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>minute men take over sanctuary
>with an empty vault a short jog away

>>378161532
...
wrapped up like a douche, another loner in the night

>>378167978
AFAIK that is basically it, the 50's American way of life had a big resurgence. Probably to make people think shit was better than it was.

>>378169505
So just about every nation having something that could instantly wipe out a majority of life on our planet and cause the most widespread suffering imaginable is better than not having that? The fact that you accept this situation is depressing. You're basically saying "so what if that guy is following me around with a loaded rifle ready to shoot whenever I do something he doesn't like, at least it stops other people from doing it". I get the feeling that you're a bit nihilistic.

The people in this thread defending the nuke thing are the same idiots who defend the Arya stabbing scene in GoT.

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>>378169995
And in your opinion what was the thing that stopped Russia from invading mainland Europe post WW2? What stopped the Americans from invading Cuba? It wasn't flowers and fairy dust you inbred cunt.

>>378162638
An eclipse will give you a lot of UV directly into your eyes, which will do some damage.

A nuke will blast you with much higher-energy UV as well as X rays and some Gamma rays. It would do serious damage in a short amount of time.

>>378170659
Why are you immediately so defensive and resorting to insults? You know you can get somebody's attention much easier without sounding like a 14 year old who just learned swears. I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with you, but don't you think we can at least move past needing nukes?

>>378170045
>watching GoT
>making a political argument using GoT
>calling anyone an idiot

>>378162562
fuck off

>>378169995
Yes, because if you war someone who has nukes they nuke you and everyone dies.

Its counter intuitive if you're trying to conquer shit to get nuked and die, so no one wars people with lots of nukes.

>>378163741
kek, nice bait post

>>378162981
It depends how close to ground zero you are. If you're close to it, you'll be dead before the blast wave even gets to you - vaporized.

A little farther away and you'll be alive long enough to feel your skin burning before the blast wave pops your lungs.

A little farther and you'll live long enough for the building you're in to collapse on you or for flying debris to kill you.

A little farther and you might get lucky and survive the radiation.

A little farther and you'll get to see something that hardly anyone alive has ever seen, and live to tell about it.

>>378170975
How are GoT references compared to Harry Poter or starwars references in terms of shitty political analogy in your opinion?

>>378171269
>a little
Many, many miles. Also by the time you're out of range of enough radiation to cause radiation poisoning the explosion is no longer visible.

That's the case for Hiroshima scale shit anyway. Modern nukes are far more lethal.

>>378171423
Same audience.

>>378171481
Thought it'd be a bit lower, actually.
Thanks!

>>378166793

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITEXGdht3y8

>>378171440
You would absolutely be able to see the explosion from a safe distance, especially if you're upwind.

>>378161532
This is less of a problem to get autistic about than the entire nuclear wasteland look they use being completely wrong.

>>378171719
You can see 12 miles away?

>>378162308
Not only that, but it's so bright that at a few miles out you can close your eyes, then put your hands over them, THEN turn to face away from the blast and it will still be so bright that you'll see the bones of your hands shadowed against the white of the light shining through your hands.

As according to eyewitness accounts in military tests, supposedly.

>>378162478
As >>378162581 said, light moves faster than the shockwave, which travels at the speed of sound. At distances of several miles away from the warhead, this causes a noticeably delay between the flash of the detonation and the physical shockwave arriving.

Two caveats, however. One, at the distance depicted in the game the delay wouldn't be noticeable to the human mind, never you mind that at that distance you'd be crushed by the shockwave so violently that you'd die before comprehending the sight or sound of either shockwave reaching you.

Two, the thermal shockwave is carried as thermal (i.e. infrared/visible) radiation and so arrives with the visual flash.

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>>378172141
Here's a picture of downtown Minneapolis from Burnsville, 15 miles away.

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>>378165314

>>378172570
oh YA DUDE?!?!? can you SEE 15 MILES AWAY!?!?!?! LMFAO DUDE YOU CAN BARELY SEE THAT SHIT, WTF ARE YOU ON ABOUT. YOU THINK YOU COULD SEE A NUCLEAUR DETENTION DEVICE FROM THAT RANGE? idiot

>>378162669
This precisely, I'll take lorefags in the TES community because it's not even my load order and the entire point of the extended lore is to draw your own conclusions and have your own point.

But loremongers in fallout makes no fucking sense because the lore doesn't even make sense with itself. Seriously, you can only know so much about physics before you lose all abiity to take fallout seriously without willing suspension of disbelief. Lasers are not depicted very realisticaly, which is odd because the "anatomy" of the firearms is actually pretty consistent with how a real-world laser is constructed. but don't even get me started on the way fallout depicts radiation and plasma. What the flying fuck to they mean by "gooify"?

The concept of loremongering fallout makes no sense because the series is intentionally full of innacuracies and inconsistencies because the entire IP is chasing afte the shitty SciFi of the 1950s.

>>378167706
I still never understood why they didn't just set FO3 at about 30-70 years after the bomb. All the doom and gloom would make a lot more sense

>>378163145
Tell me more, Lovecraft.

>>378162481
First nuclear bomb test a guy put on sunglasses and sun lotion instead of turning away as was advised. He was not gonna miss that shit for anything. Glorious.

>>378171269
How far away was big boss from that one blast in snake eater?

>>378172769
>autistic screeching

>>378173408
nice fucking argument todd

>>378172448
What if you dig a hole in the ground and bury your head in it. Unironic serious question.

>>378172570
>human eye is a high powered camera
Nice, why do telescopes exist?

How would we know what a nuke blast would look like when they've never been used before??

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>>378173480
You shouldn't be getting assmad over some trivial bullshit my man

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>expecting the retards at Bethesda to do research

There are tons of instances documented from the bomb survivors that when they were children in school and the bombs went off when they closed their eyes and covered their face with their hands when facing the flash they could see a perfect outline of their hand skeleton.

The flash was that fucking bright.

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>>378169379
he's still alive

>>378173708
i was just trolling you

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>>378172448
Oh yeah? You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.
Fag.

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>>378173938
I can tell

>>378161532
I made a fucking image just for this argument. Haven't used it in a long time. Hard Drive is apparently corrupted. Spent the last 10 minutes trying to find the image I uploaded in /v/ archive. Can't find it at all.

Whatever. Just fucking watch the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SxRNua0TGY

>>378166252
these pictures make me feel like i'm looking at a long lost civilization, much more advanced than our current one.. i have never seen a wide spread failure of society other than during blizzards.. i can't even imagine a nuclear power plant melting down and dying to fucking radiation, that sounds so advanced..

>>378173354
the nuke used in snake eater had a yield of only 20 tons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
so he would be safe if hes a mile or 2 away

>>378162113
There are no mutants in real life, so they can do whatever they want with them in the context of a video game.


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Realism =/= Accuracy

If every action game was based on real life, surviving a full clip damage would be unnaceptable. Yet, you need to allow the player be a bullet sponge to some degree, or else almost any FPS (or basically any other genre with guns) would be unplayable.

>>378164367
>Yeah, and radiation totally creates ghouls and supermutants
>supermutants
Play the fucking video games and then suck on a tailpipe.

>>378168979
Because you're retarded. Disarmament only works if everyone disarms and that's never happening.

>>378165789
then what

>>378164828
>if we can shoot down rockets made in a garage we can shoot down multiple ICBMs
fucking retard

>>378173354
>>378174478
though in that scene he feels the wave so he's probably half a mile away or so

>>378170963
>but don't you think we can at least move past needing nukes?
Not him but no. You deserve to be belittled because you think like a child
>But what if everyone just loved each other!
>But what if everything was free!
Well that's not the way the world is sweety.

>>378163253
Truman inherited the bomb from Roosevelt and didn't know the power it possessed. There's diary entries from Truman that discuss how horrified he was when he saw the casualty counts.

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>>378161532
>>378174260
Nvm found it

>>378174884
Didn't it make him sterile?

>>378162104
It's bright enough to burn your shadow into the ground

>>378176280
Bikini atol tests

>>378161872
This is also a game where you can fight with a short range nuclear catapult.

>>378177206
His snake don't work too good.

>>378163620
this

No they wouldn't be blinded, their eyes would melt

>>378161532
Nuclear power = magic in the Fallout universe.

>>378163253
Who makes the weapons the troops use?
Who are the troops fighting for?
There are many reasons why civilians would be valid targets in wartime.

>>378161872
YES

>>378162104
bright enough to be seen thru a solid wall

>>378169656
I was so mad you couldn't work on your home vault with the dlc.

>>378171024
You asked retard

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I don't understand these people. I kill them everytime only keeping them alive until I get my hands on the ballistic weave.

>>378178492
What's not to understand?

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>>378163508
This reads like something North Korea would say.

>>378172141
I can see New York City when I'm on top of mountain near my place and it's an hour drive to get to NYC. I imagine a Nuke going off would be easy.

Japs didnt care about civilians, POWs, why do the same against an enemy that has no morals?

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Remember me, anon?

>>378172570
You could see that city clearly if it wasnt by all that disgusting american smog.

fallout 4 is too light in content tone desu

>>378167978
even if all current bombs are dismembered, a nuclear physicist that goes completely insane could still destroy the world.
the information exists, and we can't do anything but hope no one intelligent becomes fervently religious.

>>378174923
I never once said
>But what if everyone just loved each other!
>But what if everything was free!
All I said was nuclear disarmament is a goal we should be working towards, if not that then at least better education on nuclear topics so kids won't grow up thinking they're some sort of magical science bomb that was only a problem in the past. I don't see how that's childish at all. I understand it's a difficult goal to work towards, but so is going to space and we did that before any of us were born. You can say it's impossible all you want and I do understand where you're coming from, it's hard to have faith in the human race but it's in the realm of possibility.