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A or B?

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A or B?
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a
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A.

If you say B, you went to a shitty college, or you're a NEET
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Portals require an infinite amount of energy to be created, we know this as there are various ways to create a perpetual motion machine with them which can only be possible if they already take an infinite amount of energy to make.
Since we know Energy = Infinity, let's do a couple of equations.
E = mc^2
As we know c = the speed of light or 299 792 458 m / s, and 299 792 458^2 is 8.9875518e+16, and that Energy is Infinity, the equation becomes
Infinity = m8.9875518e+16
The only way for the equation to match up with one another is if Mass is also Infinity.
Therefore, a portal has infinite mass.
F = ma
We already know m = Infinity so the equation becomes
F = Infinity x a
Any form of acceleration would require an infinite amount of force.
The portal cannot have 0 mass, as energy for massless objects can have the equation of
E = hf
Or Energy equals Planks Constant x Frequency, as Planks Constant is a finite number, frequency must be infinite.
The equation for energy can also be
E = hc / wavelength, as Planks Constant and Speed of Light are finite, wavelength must be 0.
But Light is equal to wavelength x frequency, but 0 x Infinity = 0, making light move at 0 speed if portals were massless.
Ergo, the answer is Ѭ, the piston is unable to move as it would take an infinite amount of force to move the portal situated upon it.
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>being an afag or bfag
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>>378149995
please, let's not.
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>>378151126
1/2 A
Stay remains grounded

Just kidding.
2/3 B
Switch takes off
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>>378151126
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>>378149995
Depends on whether "air" can ventilate through that portal through that motion or not. Your imagination is the limit here. Also the weight of the weighted companion cube matter. If it can ventilate through between portals actively and it's enough to give weight a lift we may see "B", if it doesn't we'll see "A".
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>>378151429
bad fun ape
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guaranteed replies

the only real answer is that you cannot answer this question as portals do not follow any consistent logic through the game

for every answer someone gives someone else will have an example from the game that disproves it, resulting in an endless circlejerk of one upmanship
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>>378151429
>fat lab pal
could my friends be experimenting on me?

oh wait i don't have friends
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>>378151618
>endless circlejerk of oneupmanship
Nah, the oneupmanship remains stationary, since if you move a doorframe over a circlejerk the circlejerk stays in one spot
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>>378151429
>fat hey sad

kek
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>>378149995
Everyone is going to argue on this because too much information isnt present in the original picture.

Its assumed, but not stated the box has no energy moving it. (But technically, what is "moving" has to be compared to something else, so this is another argument.)
But it might, we dont know, therefor the answer changes.

The platform coming down, also might be stationary, and looks like its coming down from the boxes perspective. (most likely its moving down.)

And lastly, does the platform stop the moment the box enters the portal?
(Id imagine so, but most people would forget this part)

All of these need answers, to get the correct answer to the question.

Otherwise ppl will argue with eachothers assumptions all day.
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>>378152050
And yet there's one in garry's mod and one in narbacular drop that shows the opposite.
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>>378151429
>fat broke ape
hispanic so I guess it checks out nicely
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>>378151429
sap funny love
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>>378151429
>beautiful
>broken
>fat
uuhhh. I'm not fat or beautiful
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>>378151126
Top Left: This is interesting, and I honestly dont know the answer. My initial reaction is to assume 50%, but part of me is assuming the correct answer is 40%, or 60%. (Though I just dont know atm, and would need more time to think on it.

Top right: requires some assumptions, but technically A and B are the same thing, the only difference is that gravity pulled the box sooner in A, and Gravity pulled the box later in B, which requires numbers to actually get a real answer.
bottom left: always switch, though this is a complex one to explain.
bottom right: the air around the plane, needed for lift, hasnt changed, nor do i know what the question is, but assume it asks if it can fly.
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>>378152372
The answer for top left is 2/3, because you have 2x the chance of getting a gold ball from the box with two gold balls than you do getting a ball from the box with only one.
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>>378151429
>nice fun ape
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>>378152715
wew
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A or B?
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roll
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>>378152505
After having thought about what you said, this didnt sound right. (I misread what you said)

So i ended up thinking;
if the ball in your hand is gold, then that automatically rules out the possibility you selected the 2 grey ball box.

the 2 possible boxes that remain, also means you didnt select the grey ball from the 1 and 1 box.
so the only possibilities left are pulling a grey, or pulling 2 golds.

Which is the answer you gave, but i wasted time thinking on it, because i rushed reading your answer lol.
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>>378153253
I got a chuckle with this one.

but of course if its an analogy to the portal example, this wouldnt take gravity into consideration, unless the portal lead to the opposite side of itself, like a hoola hoop.
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>>378152085
>video FUCKING games
>a system just around trillion times less complicated than the universe
>"showing" how physics work
you guys are fucking hilarious sometimes
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>>378150431
this. everyone who thinks it's B - read up on classical mechanics. Newton's laws, etc.
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>>378153267
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>>378151429
Sad, broke, funny
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>>378151429
Fap, whore, and funny
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>>378151429
>Ice, Funny, Broke
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>>378152505
>>378153302
except that's wrong. once you've taken out a golden ball, the chance is 50/50 to draw another golden one. that's because you got the gold ball either from the box with two gold balls, in which case you take another gold ball, or in the box with a grey ball, in which case it's the grey ball that's left. Don't think about the balls left, think about the boxes. 2 boxes with a possibility of gold balls, you choose either A or B. 50/50.
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>>378151429
>sad
>lad
>love

fug...
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>>378151429
>love
>beautiful
>nice
Am I a woman?
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>>378153774
And so should you. Anyone who thinks it's not Ѭ needs to go back to school.
>>378154429
Except that's wrong. Read Bertrand's box paradox.
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>>378151429
>foe but lad
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>>378151429
Whore, beautiful, lovely
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>>378154429
but like the monty hall problem, you didnt just pick A or B, you picked;
A, sub A
A, sub B
B, sub A.

there was a 1 in 3 chance of which of the gold balls you picked.
so there's 3 possible outcomes, even if 2 of them seem the same, but arent.

Ball A, from group A, is not the same ball as Ball B from group A.
The result of course is asking for a gold ball, which all 3 balls qualify for, so they all sound the same, when actually being different.
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>>378151126
1. 50% chance of the next ball being golden.
2.Neither, it's gonna be projectile motion at 90 degrees relative to the tilted surface
3. Shit question
4. Plane would achieve liftoff, although the horizontal displacement at the time would be 0
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>>378153267
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>>378155661
B
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>>378155661
but in B, the portal is stationary, isnt it? or is it attached to the outside of the train as its moving?
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>>378151126
1. 50%, ez
2. A, ez
3. ALWAYS SWITCH DOORS, ez
4. It will take off, ez
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>>378156678
Wrong.
Wrong.
Right.
Right.
2/4 isn't bad.
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>>378156756
how would a stationary plane, with no difference in airflow on its wings, take off?
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>>378153267
Awe, making your own is funner. Roll, but I'm going to make my own anyway..

Dragon
Skeletal
Guardian
Terror

The place I'd guard is a temple literally made of animated bones because skeletal dragon. It would basically be a walking fortress that would attack any would be adventurers coming in to slay me. Once the floor and hallways slaughter any would be slayers their own bones would become part of the temple, slowly making it bigger and more dangerous.
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>>378157116
The trick is the plane wouldn't remain stationary, the treadmill is 100% irrelevant and it's a shitty bait post.
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>>378157284
ah, i see what ur saying, but im fairly sure the original poster is suggesting its motorized by the gears, and is able to keep up in speed to any pull the plane would generate.
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>>378151429
>whore
>sad
>broke
fuck
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>>378153267
roll roll
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A anyone who says B is retarded
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>>378157932
>anyone who says A or B is retarded
Fixed that for you.
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Its B you tards. Always has been and always will be.
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>>378156678
Can't tell if trolling or retarded
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>>378151429
>Bad
>Ass
>Pat
>mfw my name is Patrick
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>>378153253
You're not thinking with portals.
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>>378151126
Gold Balls: Overall chance to pick two in a row where one pull is guaranteed is 2/3. However, the image is asking for the chance to pull a 2nd gold ball AFTER the first, as opposed to the overall chance, putting it at a 1/2 chance.

Portals: A. It's how it happens in the games.

Doors: No question is asked. However, you pick one of the doors regardless since there's a 50% chance you get a prize and a 50% chance you just get another goat (If you're a fan of goats, you have a 100% chance of getting a prize no matter what you do)

Plane: This is a poorly made drawing. If we're working with it, though, the vector force from the treadmill is greater than the forward-moving power of the plane, as represented by the lengths of the arrows.
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>>378151429
>Beautiful
>Whore
>Sad
O-oh...
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>>378151429
>beautiful but pretty
I guess it could have gone worse.
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>>378153267
I've had dreams of dragon dildos recently
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>>378160894
>afags manage to get all wrong
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>>378161175
wew
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>>378151429
>peer
>love
>whore
I guess my gf is a whore.
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>>378151126
>TL
Let A be the event that you chose a gold ball. The probability of A occurring from the outset is 1/2, as you have a 1/3 chance of choosing a box with two gold balls, a 1/3 chance of choosing a box with 1 gold ball (meaning a 1/6 chance of selecting a gold ball), and a 1/3 chance of selecting the box with silver balls (a 0 percent chance of selecting a gold ball). 1/3+1/6 = 1/2, so the odds of selecting a gold ball are 1/2.
Let B be the event that you select the leftmost box, containing two gold balls. Obviously this is 1/3.
We are told that we selected a gold ball, so we know A to be true. Now we want to find the probability that B is true, given A is true. A and B are clearly not independent (that is, if A is true it has an effect on the likelihood of B, and vice versa). So we need to find P(B|A), which is P(A and B)/P(A). The probability of A and B is 1/3, as a selection from the first box means both events are true, and all other boxes mean at least one is false. Ergo, P(B|A) = (1/3)/(1/2) = 2/3.

>TR
This one doesn't really have an answer, despite all the shitposting. Both outcomes violate current understandings of physics so we don't have a way of correctly modeling this.

>BL
Look up the monty hall problem. Obviously you switch.

>BR
Planes require lift to take off. If the plane is mostly stationary relative to the air around it, it won't take off because the wings won't be generating lift.
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>>378152372
>>378156678
>>378161992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI

this is how switchfags like you think
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>>378162230
>That fucking video

I mean you're still retarded, but thanks for the laugh.
http://www.stayorswitch.com/
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>>378162230
What?
It's been established MATHEMATICALLY and OBJECTIVELY that switching gives you greater likelihood of the desired outcome
If you're not shitposting, you're literally arguing against objective fact
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>>378162230
This kills the stayfag.
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>>378151126
1. Its 50%. You already picked the box with gold in it so you can discard the silver only box. You ither pulled a gold from goldgold box or goldsilver box

2.B . Box actually build momentum while coming out of blue portal

3. Always switch for a nice 66%

4. Depends on the max horizontal speed the plane can reach compared to the air. In a nut shell, wind should hit the wings around 90km/hour speed to get plane to flt. The engine acts as a force that pulls the plane forward but doesnt blow the wind towards the wings. It depends on how strong the engine is vs the speed of platform. Can fly in theory
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You cannot refute this.
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>>378163073
You either pulled Gold 1 in Gold Gold box, Gold 2 in Gold Gold box or Gold in Gold Silver box, it's 2/3 not 50%.
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>>378153267
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>>378162230
Considering my original answer was 50/50 before I understood how it works, I doubt that video reflects how I, nor the other 2 think.

(By the way, the host always picks the wrong door of the remaining 2 doors, thats the detail you keep forgetting.)
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>>378161992
I didn't know there were people on /v/ who actually graduated high school
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>>378163218
Dude ther are two boxes with gold in it.
If you have take gold then there are two states not three

1.you pulled gold from the gold box = next pull will also be gold

2.you pulled gold from other box = next pull will be silver

Golds are identical. Two boxes only
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>>378163514
Betrand's Box paradox, the answer is literally 2/3
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>>378151429
>Fun, Beautiful, Epic
Th-thanks...
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>>378163610
I will google and come back at u in a minute then
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>>378151126
>monty hall problem
What's in it for you to switch? Like how does this choice matter? When you're asked to either switch or stick with your guns, you're looking at a 50% shot regardless of whether or not you switch or stick with your original answer. It's not like you're going to pick the door that you know has a goat behind it.
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>>378163752
>>378162796
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>>378163514
Incorrect.

Most terrorists are male, but not all males are terrorists.

(The logic that makes this statement work, is the same logic that proves its 2/3)

all 3 gold balls are gold, but not all gold balls are the same ball.

Let me rephrase it.

I have 3 cars.

betty and jen in car 1.
tina and tom in car 2.
jon and ross in car 3.

If I pull a person out of a random car, and its a female, what is the chance the other person is also female.

I either pulled betty, jen, or tina.

yes all 3 are females, but they are not the same female.

If i pulled betty, then the other is jen.

If I pulled Jen, then the other is betty.

If I pulled tina, the other is tom.
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>>378163610
The Paradox of Bertrand's Box Paradox is that the answers of 2/3 and 1/2 are both valid answers. The trick is that the former is the overall chance of picking two gold balls where the box of silvers is removed from the equation, while the latter answer of 1/2 is the chance when you've isolated it to two balls, where one you took was gold, and the other is either gold or silver. The image asks for the chance that the next ball you take will be gold, not the overall chance.
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>>378151429
Fab Cab Dude
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>>378163986
Except the scenario in the picture would literally be 2/3.
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>>378153253
>a portal is a hula-hoop
a fags are actually this retarded
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>>378157932
>the part of the box which entered the portal at high velocity will suddenly lose momentum for no reason
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>>378163871
Yes but you're asked to make a second choice, choosing between either to not act or to act. The choice you made before doesn't matter anymore because you haven't gained any additional information about the remainiing doors themselves, all you know is that it's between those two doors. You have to make a choice again after Monty Hall asks you and that choice is based on a 50% probability. I'm asking how it matters if you either stick with your original answer or pick a new door because you either get a goat or you get a car no matter what you choose. Or am I just fucking retarded?
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>>378164463
Nigger, look at the fucking probability table.
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>>378163705
Here i got it
>>378163610

So the thing is, when u first chose the gold there is 2/3 chance that it was a gold from first box, thats why its 2/3

Man that was hard to understand but good to learn something new
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>>378151429
>pretty
>pal
>fool
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>>378153267
trollan
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>>378160894
best answer to the goat question
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>>378151429
>lovely
>funny
>broken
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>>378164427
the box didnt have any momentum, its the orange portal losing momentum
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>>378164793
>>378162796
Nigger there's a fucking probability table showing that it's 2/3. It's straight up proven mathematically and objectively.
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>>378164135
You're ignoring the final sentence of the question, which is the important part of answering the question
> What is the probability that the next ball you take from the same box will also be gold?
The setup is irrelevant, and even using the setup, Bertrand's Paradox states that it is a paradox because the chance of the final pull being gold will be 1/2. The entire reason it's a paradox is because both answers are correct unless you specify at what point of the question you're asking for an answer.
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>>378151429
>ape
>funny
>epic
???
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>>378151429
>ahnl
>ufunnyfu
>zqxat
I can't say this fheeht me at all.
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>>378164824
>didn't have any momentum
The portal imparts it.
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>>378149995
2B
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>>378151126
2/3
N/A
Switch Doors
Abstain
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>>378165037
Except that's why it would be 2/3, because the final sentence DOES include what occurred in the past.
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>>378164818
CAROL OLSTON HAS BIG BOOBIES
BIG OL FUN BAGS
BOUNCY BAZONGAS
I WANT TO SQUEEEEEZE THEM
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>>378165165
No, it's asking for the chance of pulling gold from the same box at the end of the scenario, not the beginning. At the end, you're either going to be pulling Gold or Silver, which makes it a 1/2 chance.
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>>378165037
The keyword here is "next", that means we must have to take in consideration what has already occurred as this is what happens "next".
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>>378164693
>worship and sagacity
ezmode
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>>378165037
First pick is important as well
The probability of picking from double gold box in the first place is twice the probability of picking gold from silver/gold box to begin with
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>>378151126
>Top left
It's 40%
Super easy
I can't believe people are saying 50%

First pick is always gold. there are 5 possible outcomes for each of the 3 gold balls from first pick. 2 of those 5 balls are gold.

2/5 = 40%
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>>378165201
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>>378165457
>2/5
You're over shooting the denominator there lad.
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>>378165418
Bertrand's Paradox states that the first pull is guaranteed to be gold. For all intents and purposes, the box of two silvers might as well not even be there.
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>>378165551
Tomo a best
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>>378151429
Beautiful
Lovely
Taada!
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>>378165653
And you're 2x more likely to get a gold ball from Gold-Gold than from Gold-Silver.
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>>378165653
Yes first is gold
Now there are three possible golds you could have picked and two are in the same box
Picking each gold is 1/3 chance

Since two of them are already on the first box, its 1/3+1/3=2/3
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>>378165694
I disagree but respect your opinion
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>>378149995
B
if you don't follow the physics through as a moving system then you're dumb and arrive at A
the portal is a new relative frame of reference and the box doesn't simply switch from being not-through-the-portal to through-the-portal instantaneously, it projects outwards through the blue portal as the orange one descends onto it
thus, it has velocity in the new frame of reference, all momentum is relative
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>>378151429
Funny frail beautiful
Sure why not
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>>378165892
Can we all agree that Carol is the worst girl though.
>>378165953
Except the portal would literally never be able to move.
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Post reactions to B
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>>378165892

> I respect your opinion

fucking cuck I swear to god I hate you
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>>378165873
But you're not pulling from three after your first pull. You're pulling one from a group of two, as you are unable to replace the one that you've just pulled. The question is asking for the chance of the remaining ball (ie, your next pull) being Gold, which can only be 50%.
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>>378165553
I'm afraid not anon
There are 15 possible outcomes, 6 are the second ball being gold
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>>378166015
Misuzu is worst
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>>378165127
Your image has two boxes with two golden balls. The original setting had a box that had one golden and one silver ball.
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>>378151429
Beautiful whore funny, i could live with that
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>>378166265
>A1C1
>A1C2
>A2C1
>A2C2
>B1C1
>B1C2
nigger what the fuck
>>378166228
It's asking for the NEXT pull, which means that the first pull has an effect on the NEXT pull.
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>>378166023
if this post ends with 366 then thread is cursed
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>>378166228
Ok here is another way of looking at it
To be able to get gold on 2nd attempt, you have to pick gold from the double box at start. Forget about the third box imagine with 2 boxes if you want

Now there are four balls, 3 gold and one silver.

You will randomly pick one of the golds and to be able to get the 2nd gold, it has to be from the double box. There is 1/3 chance that you will pick gold from the silver/gold box. Its not chosing a box, its chosing a ball since we only sonsider gold chosing states. 3 balls and only 1 in silver box, the other two are in gold box. There is 1/3 chance that u pick from silver box and fail, 2/3 chance that the gold u picked at first happened to be from the gold box
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>>378166265
this is some pretty fucking shitty math
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>>378166545
I labelled the balls A1, A2, B1, B2, C1, C2

The first pull is either A1, A2, or B1 since the first pull is always gold
That leaves 5 balls since you pulled 1 of the 6
2 of the 5 balls will be gold and you will grab it at random
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>>378153267
Rollerino desu
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>>378166354
answer is 2/3
you're twice as likely to be drawing from the 2 gold box.
You can either first draw ball 1 of 2 gold box, ball 2 of 2 gold box, or ball 1 of 1 gold box.
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>>378166228
You've pulled a gold ball out
>chance it was from box a 2/6
>chance it was from box b 1/6
Its twice as likely that the box you're rooting around in is box a
It would only be a 50% chance for another gold ball if it was equally likely that you were in box a or b
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>>378167027
Dude you can only pick the 2nd ball from the same box u first pull which is. Chances after getting first ball gold is

A1 A2
A2 A1
B1 B2

There nothing else

Remember, you pick a gold from a random box, and pick the other ball from the same box again and see if it id gold
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To put the retarded 1/2 idea to rest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand%27s_box_paradox
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>>378164824
The box had momentum relative to the orange portal on entrance. Therefore, the box also had momentum equal to the blue portal on exit.

Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out.
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>>378167416
>Dude you can only pick the 2nd ball from the same box u first pull
>Reread question
oh ur right ok kill me please
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>>378151429
epic
fat
lad

I'm not even british wtf
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>>378167657
The box has no energy, other than its potential from being raised off the ground. The energy orange has would be expended hitting the platform blue is on
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>>378167027
I've done my own computations. You're doing it all wrong. Like you said, you can either pull A1, A2, or B1 on your first pull. But then that leaves only ONE ball because the silver box is never accessed and is basically extra information. Two out of the remaining one balls will be gold, thus ensuring that the probability of pulling a gold ball the second time is 2%. *mic drop*
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>>378167730
At least u wrote it on paper and tried to see all possibilities at first and only problem was misreading it

Some people read it correct and keep arguing
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>>378151429

Fool
Bald
Plop

Got'em.
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>>378167657
if you step on a nail does it fly up through your foot?
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>>378167858
With game physics, the box has no momentum and therefore plops.

In reality the portals have paradoxes everywhere and are impossible to exist in the first place.
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a combination of the two. The cube would quickly emerge from the portal, but once the cube has completely passed the portal it will quickly fall to the floor
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>>378151429
>broken bad lad
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>>378151429
>Fat beautiful whore
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>>378153267
Rolling now
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>>378153267
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>>378167858
Portals have been shown not to conserve energy. Placing a portal on the floor and ceiling causes a cube to accelerate to terminal velocity. Where does that energy come from?
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>>378168796
The portal takes an infinite amount of energy to exist.
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>>378153267
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For the portal question, I can only go by some assumptions.

The platform moving down, will collide with the lower platform and stop.

The cube has no momentum or energy in it, or at least not in comparison to its surroundings, and the platform coming down.

The only momentum/energy is in the lowering platform.

If the platform and all of the space behind it, kept moving past the lower platform, then it would have the appearance the cube is B, where its launching forward, despite not actually moving.

BUT, then you need to take gravity into consideration, so it would come to a stop and fall down at some point.

Ignoring the effect of gravity being on both sides of the portal, and how its chaotic affect on everything, the portal on the platform, coming down, comes to a stop, and no longer has momentum, nor the energy.
So the cube wouldnt have the illusion of being launched, and would be pulled down by gravity the moment the portal stops, leading to result A.

(and technically if u argue the cube does have momentum/energy, as all things could be argued as being in motion, if compared to something else, but if you do, then there is a push back force from when the platform collides with the lower platform, which is also going to affect the cube, due to gravity, and in turn, still result in A.)
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>>378153267
Something cool please
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>>378169212
Except it's not A or B.
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>>378169212
Gravity on cube wouldnt have an effect since it is standing still on a surface. From the standpoint of blue portal, surface is also moving along with cube, just not passing trough portal as orange stops once it reacher bottom
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>>378151429
Sap fag less
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>>378149995
>>
Ѭ>>>>>>>>>>B>>>>C>>>>>A
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>>378169619
There are 2 sources of gravity.
The gravity holding it on the platform, and the new gravity pulling it downward from the new portal.

Id imagine it would technically be in the middle.
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>>378169696
I like how the platform bounces off the ground, and yet the cube is already launched away lol.
(btw this doesnt take into account 2 different sources of gravity working on it.)
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>>378166015
portals mathematically are always moving because, as noted, frames of reference and momentum in the universe are relative
portals in Portal™ don't move due to engine limitations
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>>378170695
Except mathematically, portals have infinite mass and are literally unable to move without an infinite amount of force pushing it.
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>>378151126
Wouldn't the plane stay on the belt? What's the difference of the plane on the belt going 200mph in the same spot than it sitting still without the wheels moving?
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>>378170234
Well the gravity holding it to platform would have no effect since the cube is being held by platform. As far as the portal rules of the game, gravity doesnt pass from a portal. Cube would only stop touching the platform when it completely passes to other side. Other gravity might effect it halfway though, maybe goes to sideways a little while passing
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>>378170353
Try to rethink portals' preservation of momentum with "matter enters at x speed, matter exits at x speed".

Does this invalidate the logic in the game? No. Does it invalidate A? Yes.
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>>378151429
>fat but beautiful
T-thanks
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>>378169696
>>378150431

Seems that our little genius got BTFO
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>>378153267
rolleriono
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>>378170891
>justifying your position using narrative handwaving that itself only exists to try to make the player not think about a quantum conundrum that breaks the believability of its world

the earth is in motion constantly and so are the portals
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>>378153267
o fuck
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>>378170943
Mixing game logic with real world logic is a bit of an issue, as there's a lot to assume from the diagram, thats not stated, such as this.

Also, Matter "enters" isnt the best way to describe whats happening, matter is moving around matter.

(Who is moving, the space ship passing a stranded person in a suit, or the person in a suit is passing the ship?)

The "mover" is arguably the platform, not the cube. Also, lets say I was flying into a portal, but hit my emergency breaks, do I keep going at full speed anyways, just because a portal is involved?
The platform, the mover, has stopped.
The cube isnt the mover, the platform above is.
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>>378171493
>justifying your position using narrative handwaving that itself only exists to try to make the player not think about a quantum conundrum that breaks the believability of its world
Nice strawman.
>the earth is in motion constantly and so are the portals
The Earth would literally stop dead in its tracks from the existence of portals on it, the portal contains infinite mass, as it must contain infinite energy, as that is the only way it can fulfill basic laws of physics. It also cannot be a massless object with infinite mass as that would make the speed of light zero.
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>>378171918
Portals cant exist in this fasion period.

Which is why they said what they said.

The rules of the game, are like the rules of time travel, its all BS.
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>>378172069
We're not talking about the rules of the games, we're talking about basic fucking physics anon.
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>/v/ tries to explain a video games physics

Fuck off
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>>378150431
imagine getting this far and still being a fucking idiot
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>>378150431
>>>/sci/8927164
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Afags are so pathetic they have to steal other's people accomplishments and commit basic fallacies
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
Bfags > Afags
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>>378171793
You're just making things more complicated than they need to be. The cube is not bound to the platform and said platform isn't moving, the whole universe is.

Cube gains speed once out of the blue portal, cube has no emergency brakes, cube keeps speed.
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>>378171918
>using Newtonian physics in the context of portals
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>>378160894
>Portals: A. It's how it happens in the games.

Confirmed for not having played portal, or being so retarded, that everything is just colors and shapes.
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>>378173386
yeah man how dare i use basic fucking laws of physics to answer the question which requires explanations using physics
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>>378163084
If the penis is not attached to body, B.

If it is, he will feel a tug when the plunger stops, due to conservation of momentum, followed by A.
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>>378173517
by all means continue to abide by physical principles that break down at small scales, such as those that might define the bounds between two sides of a portal face
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>>378151429
Soy
Pol
Ree
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>>378173724
https://books.google.com/books?id=9U6yCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA172#v=onepage&q&f=false
>That means that conservation of energy can appear to be violated, but only for small values of t (time)
>appear to be violated
by all means continue to spout off random shit about physics you have no fucking idea about
>>
Whether YOU run into the portal, or the PORTAL runs into you, it's the exact same thing.
There is conservation of energy, and anyone that says A, are either:
1)Stupid Kids
2)Retarded Adults
3)Trolls
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>>378173973
>That means that conservation of energy can appear to be violated, but only for small values of t (time). This allows the creation of particle-antiparticle pairs of virtual particles. The effects of these particles are measurable, for example, in the effective charge of the electron, different from its "naked" charge.
>"appear to be violated"
>also appears to have measurable effects
hmmmm
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>>378149995
what would stop it from hovering in the middle of the portal
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>>378151429
ped, pee, and plop :(
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>>378174565
https://www.quora.com/Does-quantum-vacuum-fluctuation-violate-the-conservation-of-energy
>No! Saying that quantum mechanics does not conserve energy is misinterpreting quantum mechanics.
really gets the ol noggin joggin
>>
wew
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>>378153267
rollz
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>>378175278
why
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>>378151429
>Ply
>But
>Love
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