How do you feel about based HBomberGuy eternally BTFOing Dar

>>378130593

Well he is right, Dark Souls 2 is fine

>>378130593
some of his points are retarded but mathewmatosis is even more retarded and hbomberguy btfos /pol/tards so i guess i agree with hbomberguy

>>378130593
Some points are right
Some points are wrong

He is right about Matt being unable to play, I couldn't take his review seriously when he was complaining about the Prowling Magus fight.

God I hate this poofter. He's a contrarian hypocrite.

>how dare you get unreasonably angry that someone has a different definition of racism than you?
>but would probably get mega butt hurt about racism definitions being different than his own

I hate stormweenies, but this cunt is in his own category of insufferable.

>>378132808
He used to be part of the metokur group and make fun of the sort of people he's buttbuddies with today

>>378130593
How do you feel about making this exact same thread again?

DS2 is a fine game. The biggest problem it had was the soul memory, but otherwise it was pretty solid.

>>378130593
Stop making this thread please.

>>378132808
This homo is the modern face of 'troll's remorse'. He used to shitpost the ridiculous faggots that he now hangs out with and pretends to be enlightened with.

>>378132945
You mean like Leigh Alexander, who goes on and on about progressive ideals but then says she wants a race war to get rid of "hood men"? Or that one pug faced fuck who made rant videos about soccer games not having female players, but has a clear past of saying he's a proud nazi and white supremacist?

I tried going back to it just two days ago.
The controls are complete shit after playing bloodborne. Like Unfucking playable bad.
I went back to DS1 and had no problems.

>>378130593
He's right in that dark souls 2 is a good game.

It's just the worst souls -game.

>>378130593
>ACKTTTSHUALLY
As someone who actually likes DS2, this man is absolutely retarded. Instead of focusing on the actually good things about the game, he'd rather try to defend all the objectively bad stuff while also being a smug faggot about it

>>378130593
Literally fucking who? Isn't he some feminist cunt? Reported for e-celeb.

>look up things people didn't like about DS2
>think up any reason to insist that they're actually good

I'm glad he started the video talking some retarded bullshit so I could save myself from taking the rest of it seriously.

>>378130593
He was giving some interesting and thoughtful (although wrong) reasoning until he brought up MatthewMatosis and then he just turned full sperg and tried to pretend he wouldn't suck Matt's dick given the option. Couldn't give a shit to watch the whole thing.

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none of it means shit when the core gameplay feels like shit

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>>378132945
He evolved beyond retardation. I can respect that.

>>378130593
This is dumb.

Of course DS2 would do certain aspects better than it's predecessors.
It's a freaking sequel.

Where DS2 fails however is on the level of quality, worldbuilding and design.
It felt like it was made by an outsider trying to make a sequel, which is of course exactly what it is.

It's not a bad game. It's pretty ok actually.
But after DS1 it's still a massive let-down.

>>378130593
Some of his points are fine, but many are bad, or just plain opinions(and his are bad), so overally it's pretty shitty video.
hbomber is an idiot.

>>378130593
i stopped watching when he said dark2 had the best healing system after literally just complaining about grass spam in demons

We already know that gamergoobers and nostalgia creeps keep shitting on dark souls 2 because "muh le secret club invaded by normies xD"

>a shitty video in response to a shitty video
Wowee I'm impressed

>>378130593
me: using a shield is casual, just learn to roll lol
also me: *summons to get through shrine of amana*

>>378137554
>also me: *summons to get through shrine of amana*
Hug the left wall

>>378137130
don't forget the part where he praises dark souls 2 for getting rid of the attrition aspects of estus (i.e. if you run out of estus you can't explore much further) while conveniently failing to mention any of the changes made to weapon durability

Only racists and sexists criticize DS2

Yeah it was a fine game, I just didn't like it very much compared to DS1, 3, and Bloodborne

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>I, personally, enjoy an incoherent level design, gank squads in every area, rolling being nerfed, weapons breaking every few minutes and multiple bosses with exaggeratedly high health bars
>Matthewmatosis doesn't share this point of view so he is wrong!

>>378137742
disagreeing with the critical consensus is gamergate to me

How do I feel about a literally who spouting burning hot irrelevant opinions about an irrelevant game?
Fine, thanks for asking.

>>378137758
I always found it odd that people liked 3 over it, just same shit with a different coat of paint. Oh well, opinions are opinions; sometimes it doesn't have to make sense

>How do you feel about someone youtuber's shitty opinions?

>>378130593
>>>/pol/
>>>/eceleb/
also that guy is a legit psychopath

>>378136837
no, he changed the form of his retardation

the same retardation that landed him in chatrooms with metokur is the same retardation that ended with him paying $5 to use a forum

>>378138340
>also that guy is a legit psychopath

How come?

>>378138340
i get this impression from him too but i would like to see some evidence

>>378130593
>life gems are good because I don't like fighting my way back to the boss door
>DaS is a linear game because the non-linear branching paths are individually linear
>the story not making sense is actually a good thing because [incoherent babbling]
This guy is hyper-contrarianism taken all the way past the point of sanity. He grasps at anything he can find to justify a predetermined conclusion and doesn't even care if it makes a lick of sense.

He's right about shields and lock-on though, but lots of people have pointed those out before.

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>>378136837
Nope, he just change targets, he applies the same retardation.

>>378138454
total lack of empathy or capability of understanding human emotion is usually a big tell

>>378138863

demonstrated... how?

>>378138938
in his videos...
You have to meet me halfway here, I can't lend you my powers of observation.

>>378138069
Not him, but 3 feela much better to play personally. I get why people wouldn't like the roll-happy r1 spamming nature of the combat, but 2 feels like Dark Souls On Ice.

DS2 suffers from Iron Man syndrome

IM2 wasn't that bad, but it paled in comparison to the first

>>378139108

no, but you can explain your observations and their context to other people. You can't just make a claim and assume people will notice something where they haven't before.

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>MFW they never fixed the fucking Pickaxe in DS2

>>378138069
Yeah same. I can understand if they were rating it on just gameplay or bosses alone; but the overall package for DS3 is weaker than DS2.

But can totally understand just rating them on a gameplay perspective, since they're just video games.

>>378139232
>Iron Man syndrome
Did you just make up a term?

>>378139340
Sorry but I'm not invested enough to do that.
To me it's clear like the sky is blue.

>DeS
>can warp anywhere
>level up waifu

>DaS2
>can warp anywhere
>level up waifu

>DaS3
>can warp anywhere
>level up waifu

>Bloodborne
>can warp anywhere
>level up waifu

>Dark Souls 1
>can warp anywhere only after you completed first half of game
>can level anywhere


So why do DaS1fags only shit on DaS2 for this?

Dark souls was never made to be hard, it's what it's.

das2 makes it le hard on purpose, they focus on that to much that is way the game sucks.

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>>378130593
I dont have to say anything more about this guy or his video.

I actually like SoTFS, it's basically DS2 dick mode

Limiting your loadout and taking on retarded amounts of enemies feels pretty fucking good when you best them, I will say this shit should never be someones first souls experience though

I agree with hbomber mostly, I've liked DaS2 since its launch, even though it is the weakest Souls game.

Some his opinions are shit though, like his constant complaining about running to the boss door.

>>378130593
sage for viral

>>378139621
Cucks and Miyazaki drones.
DS3 borrows a lot of stuff from DS2 but everyone likes to ignore them.

>>378139621
world in dark souls 1 is enjoyable enough that you don't mind running from place to place, world in dark souls 2 is trash so you don't want to run through it, simple enough. Leveling at bonfires is better imo, cuts a loading screen

>>378139621
>waifu is what the game good.

>>>/out/

>>378139498
dark souls 2 has better gameplay than dark souls 3 though

it's a much more customisable experience thanks to the inclusion of things like brightbugs and lifegems, you can make the game really easy for yourself and just speedrun through it

likewise you can limit yourself in what you use to make the game retain the sorts of difficulty you had in DaS by not using any of those items

the fighting itself is much more about stamina management and careful timings, this makes fights a lot harder if you're limiting yourself and a lot easier if you're just blazing through the game and spamming lifegems

also don't forget the sheer variety of shit you can do, there's a new form of magic, duel weilding/powerstancing is possible, the bosses in the game can be killed in almost any order (including skipping them), you can burn ascetics to do fights you enjoy again/get access to better equipment, the game is open in many ways that dark souls 3 just isn't

from a pure gameplay perspective dark souls 3 is trivialiased by how forgiving rolling is and almost every way of playing the game is noticeably inferior to straightsword r1 mashing, i'm not sure how anyone can consider this better since it also lacks the weighty feeling dark souls 1 had because of its bloodborne fast animations

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>>378139621
>Shit on DS2 for specific things
>Point out that these occur in other Dark Souls games too
>"That doesn't justify it!"

>>378139574
> clear like the sky is blue
read a book you dumb faggot

Are caster builds any fun in this game? Unlike in 3 you can just shield up and strafe to beat almost every boss on first try in 2 and I thought giving it another try some time

>>378140352
DaS2 is the funnest you'll get with casters.
It's the right balance of fun.

It's not absurdly OP like DaS1 where you Dark Bead everything and one shot them and it's not horribly underpowered like DaS3 where you need 4 magic boosting rings, 1 magic boosting helm, 1 magic boosting offhand and still do half the damage melee builds do.

>>378140352
I found it fun, until I got to the DLC areas where almost every single enemy has stupidly high magic resistance.

>>378133083
Agape Ring

>>378140119


>the fighting itself is much more about stamina management and careful timings

The vast majority of the enemies can either be circle strafed to death, or you roll through the first hit of their combo and hit them in the back. DS2 is a complete slog.

>>378130593
stop shilling your vids hbombergay

>>378140119
Ignoring a bunch of stuff that makes the game super easy doesn't make it customasiable, you can do that in just about any game. The covenant of champions is a much better example if you want to argue that.

>>378140525

That's not true at all. Dark bead wipes out everything in the base game with ease, and if 63 casts somehow aren't enough you can chomp herbs to get more. Plus with DS2s fucked up leveling curve you can pretty much have 25/25 or whatever damage stat spread you want three bosses in.

>>378130593
The other games don't need dedicated defense squads, kind of speaks for itself.

>>378130593
>selling chunks of the game as downloadable content to sell more season passes
>two directors fighting
>bandai namco not giving them enough time to work everything out
>not enough playtesting and refinements
>xbox 360/ps3 holding the game back
>not taking advantage of the fact that rereleasing the game could improve on a lot of that

Only problems I have with Dark Souls 2 is the above

>>378140352
It's probably the best in the series because of the variety you have, but it's still a stretch to say it's good. Fromsoft are pretty terrible at non-melee combat.

>>378141186
that's because they don't receive an unjust amount of criticism (see >>378140162)

>>378141186
das2babbies are literally too stupid to understand this

>>378141415
What are you even trying to say?
People should like something done poorly because other games in the series did it well?

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>>378130593
>still hate it
>game's still shit
Sad that that is still the case but other than that...

>>378130593
>implying that shit game will EVER recover from based digibro tearing it apart
just watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9iHemcluxs

>>378130593
I got into a Dark Souls high recently and beat the game for the first time after putting it down for months. Once I fooled around in NG+ for a few hours, I decided to give DS2 a shot. The gameplay felt super unsatisfying after playing DS1 on a fundamental level, and I'm not talking about difficulty or healing or any kind of bullshit anyone else talks about. The basic movement seems tied to the adaptability stat, which made trying to turn around and navigate feel like a chore, and my weapon kept missing enemies even if I got really close to them, which is something I never had a problem with in DS1 and is a serious concern for an action rpg. When I made it to the tower of flame area I was really disappointed at the level of detail in the environment, and the enemies looked way too strong for my character. I couldn't land a single hit on the knight enemies without getting hit myself, so I just ran passed everything to the boss and it just didn't feel engaging. There were no traps or secrets or anything interesting done with the enemies, they literally just dropped a bunch of giant armored enemies in a level editor and called it a day. I felt like I was at a huge disadvantage because I wasn't a projectile user, so I just shut it off and unintalled it. I might give it another shot sometime down the road.

>>378141632
no, i'm saying that people give dark souls 2 a disproportionate amount of shit for failings the other games suffer from

if dark souls 2 is a bad game because you get ganked constantly then so is demon's soul, dark souls, dark souls 3 and bloodborne because 90% of engagements in those games are against more than 1 enemy at a time, yet only dark souls 2 gets criticised for making you fight more than 1 enemy at a time, it's almost as if the hatred directed at the game is irrational or something

>>378130593
The dude unnironically refers to himself as SJeW any and all of his opinions are irrelavent and probably retarded.

>>378141719
this guy is such a pseud

>>378141918
They hate the way Dark Souls II did it since they did it poorly while the other games did the same or similar better.
I have no idea why this is so hard for you to understand.

>>378142279
it's hard for me to understand because dark souls 2 did it the same way as dark souls 1 for the most part

give me some examples of dark souls 1 doing it well and dark souls 2 doing it not well

>>378142407
strongly consider the merits of suicide

>>378142623
classic dark souls 2 detractor argument there friendo

>>378142407

Right at the start in undead parish in Dark Souls they have several group fights set up that you can see the ambushes ahead of tiem it you look closely and are set up in areas where you can get around them or take out the back line first.
Darks Souls II has a group of enemies explode as you walk up a set of stairs or half a dozen set up in an open field with no foresight to it.

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>Dark Souls 2 fags will literally defend this

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>>378142905

>>378142407
good example: dragon asses in lost izalith. deep and challenging as it should be.
bad example: lost sinner's phantom helpers in ng+. retarded and unfair. typical b team trash.

>caring about the opinion of a dude who puts people he disagrees with on a block list

>>378142905
>retards will claim this issue doesn't happen on other Souls games

>>378143331
OH MUH GAWD LIFEGEMS SO CASUL DEY RUIN GAME
>crushes 99 humanities in PvP

>>378130593
>defends kiting as a fun strategy
>defends Shrine of Amana by saying "oh well, you can just summon you know"
>likes dealing with large groups of enemies but dislikes the O&S duo
He does make some good points here and there but he is being extremely nitpicky and his examples are just as contrived as those he is criticizing. He even complains that DaS1 is full of chokepoints and then uses a clip of DaS2 where he's fighting knights at Lost Bastille by using a chokepoint. I had enough at 45min because it's pretty obvious that this guy is simply debating his position as opposed to giving a fair criticism.

>>378143749
yeah but it doesn't count.

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>dark souls 2
>fair

It's a trick question, all dark souls games are shit.
When normies start to describe games as "souls-like" you just know , souls was always shit,like the overrated muh DEEPEST LORE witcher.. Then again /v/ is infested with underaged normies who love Online multiplayers a little too much

>>378143918
>killed by lag or cheater

Wow that only ever happens on Dark Souls 2!

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>Dark Souls 2 has the worst bosses in the ser-

Iron Passage

>>378144414
lmao2cats

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>>378144414
just git gud

>>378144414
>>378144571
Those don't count you dumb faggots.
2fags are so retarded I swear

>>378144414

I still find it odd he would hit the ledge where his sister's body is so hard it sent the entire platform shaking.

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>>378130593
Probably the worst game critique video I've ever watched.

I just a bunch of shitty logic, bizarre apologism for objectively bad choices and misrepresentations of arguments wrapped in bad jokes and verbosity.

Utterly fails to BTFO of anything other than his own credibility.

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Why is /v/ matthemathosis central?

>>378144821
Stop falseflagging.

You're not doing DaS2 fans any favors.

DS2 is much better than 3.

The first half of DS2 is set up so you can rush one path and get the items for your specific build. And most builds are viable.

DS3 is extremely linear, if you want to be a sorcerer, most good spells and items are after Dragonslayer Armour and the game is pretty much over then! Magic/Faith are shit. Runs like shit compared to ds2, and in general is a lot less fun.

How many times have you replayed ds3? Honestly? Once max? It just isn't fun, it forces you into the same linear path to progress (apart from road of sacrifices to cathedral of deep instead of farron keep big whoop)


DS1 >= DS2 > DeS > DS3

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Reminder that /v/ is the only site on the internet this discussion takes place.

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>>378145046

>>378144802
>tfw used to be exactly like him in high school and thought it made me hot shit

I'm not sure what exactly snapped me out of it but I'm glad. Funny thing is I probably did it to cope with the bullying too, told myself I was just >tfw to intelligent

>>378145297
Fair enough.

>>378137460
What's wrong with Matt?

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>>378145140
>>378145476

>SJWBomberGoon
lmao

>>378144089
You are a projecting faggot but I agree with the normie shit.

At the point at which "soulslike" became a term I knew the dieing process had begunn.

>>378145638
what is it that makes goons such fucked up people?

i've read people talk about being dragged on something awful as some sort of revolutionising, character defining experience, plus they all talk the same ways it's really creepy

>>378143784
Like evry contrarian faggot.

It is only a matter of time before you start debating yourself.

We REALLY need more bullies in those schools that those faggots are visiting.

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>>378145476
Nothing.

The video struck a chord with a lot of Souls fans who felt disappointed with DSII because it effectively articulated some of their frustrations. Therefore it was shared a lot. DSII defenders got tired of people posting it. That's really all there is to it.

Any argument, no matter how correct and/or well-reasoned is dismissed as a meme argument if it's presented frequently. This is the nucleus of the cancer that /v/ today.

>>378130593
Didn't he get assblasted because of Tracers ass on overwatch or something?

>>378145476
/v/ cuck>>378146148

>>378145960
They're posting in a paywalled nu-liberal echo chamber. Not only do you have to be retarded enough to be a nu-liberal, but you also have to be retarded enough to pay to post on a forum, and the echo chamber is maintained by the threat of losing your "investment" if you step out of line and get banned.

So only the worst of the worst subhumans are selected to become goons, it's only natural goons are fuckups.

While I think Das2 has some elements that work better than in Das1, and overall enjoy 2 more than 1, that video is extremely retarded. It puts itself in the "2 is better than 1 in literally every single aspect" corner and tries to poorly justify each of these aspects to fit into the idea that 2 was really well designed. Which was not.

>>378145960
It was worth a fuck years ago but 4chan became the less policed SA. Bans and posters shitting on posters not like them are the main reason why you see everyone being the same.

>muh youtube criticism

Jesus Christ

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>>378130593

>>378145297
This is me.
I loved all the game but felt DS3 was the overall weakest for me.

Someone the other day said DS3 is like a band's best-hit collection album. It's alright, but isn't as good as a original album.

>>378137554
also me: acts like i'm whoring for twitter likes when i'm actually posting on /v/

>>378138781
I actually like lifegems, but they should have been treated more like Blood Vials in BB with a maximum of 20 carried amongst all types (20 small lifegems or 5 smalls, 5 mediums, 5 larges, 5 xlarges, etc.) considering the bigger ones heal more over time, but heal more slowly per second.

>>378146763
get with the times grandpa. forming your own opinions and arguments is for cucks

>>378141859
Heide's is really the most straightforward area in the game, such a shame.

>>378147251
>watch porn instead of having sex
>watch lets plays instead of playing games
>watch video essays instead of forming your own opinions

the internet was a mistake

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Bad since he is wrong. I replayed the game after watching his meme video and the entire package is trully terrible

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Kind of funny how many people changed their opinion on DS2 when this video came out. Just like how people changed their opinion about Ocarina of Time when Egoraptor released his video on it.

>>378130593
Dark Souls 2 is the worst Souls game

>>378147693
no one changed their opinion based on this video lol

a lot of people, probably a majority of people, have always liked dark souls 2 in spite of its obvious shortcomings

>>378147693
lttp was always better
ego is a retard

ds2 is the 2nd worst souls game
theres no defending it

Dark Souls 1 was a great game, it just wasn't a great Dark Souls game.

>>378147693
they haven't changed their opinions, they just jumped on the chance to be contrarian

I feel like I don't care about the opinions of ecelebs at all, nor the opinions of /v/edditors that have never played the game

I love Dark Souls 2 for my own reasons and my own reasons alone. I don't need someone else to influence me. Also Dark Souls 3 isn't terrible but holy fuck is it boring, just getting all the achievements was so mind numbingly dull. Couldn't even be bothered to start any new builds because I'd already seen everything the game had to offer and didn't want anymore of it

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>>378130593
The entire video is just "the game is good because i actually enjoy the bad things in it".
It just made me realize how young the average /v/ user must be to be so easily influenced by youtubers

>>378147693
I like DS2 even though it's my least played out of the series, but I don't think this contrarian faggot is going to actually change anyone's minds.

>>378130593
DS2 has always been pretty good. Just the weakest of the souls/bloodborne series. MM is genuinely a fucking idiot and I'm glad he at least pointed that out.

>>378130593
>MatthewMatosis

He didn't even hate DaS2, he just thought it was objectively worse than the first game, which is undeniably correct. Why are people still butthurt about this?

>>378148094
>MM is a idiot
How is he an idiot.

>>378148165
>i can't play without lock on
>i suck without my shield
>this game suck
anyone who takes his criticizes seriously is a fool

>>378148094
I liked Dark Souls 2 and I agree with 90% of what MM said in his video on it

Why has this been reposted like every day since it came out.

>>378148242
Except a lot of his criticisms were totally valid. You're an idiot if you disregard everything he pointed out.

There is no need for a video. DaS2 haters are a bunch of retards.
>muh atmosphere, lore and other liberal college shit only autists care about
>muh gank squads, whiff punishing and deactivating lock-on is hard!!!!
>DaS is built for 1v1 meme because I'm a backstab fishing faggot who only knows how to circlestrafe around enemies while spamming R1
>muh belfry sol bonfire, it ruins MY IMMERSIONNNN!!!!!!

I like dark souls 2, but the pace of the game as well as the level design and enemies were a big let down for me. It's a total slog to get through the first part of the game until you can start the dlc's and drangleic castle.

>>378148402
Worked for Matt when he spammed his video on /v/ for 3 years.
>>378148457
No his criticism are baseless and come from his own inability to adapt and play, DaS2's own faults are Soul Memory and ADP.

>>378148547
I just think it's boring.

>>378148556
I dont know who either of these faggots are and I've been here pretty much every day.
Is this some sort of pewdiepie fanbase faggot trying to get /v/ to raid someone?

>>378148556
>No his criticism are baseless

Not really, pretty much everything he says is based off of his experience with DeS and DaS. It's the best basis one could have for criticizing DaS2 outside of having actually developed a video game before.

Everything he said about the faults in DaS2's level design is totally correct.

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>>378130593
>posting an SJW

>>378148547
Nostalgiapurists who think all games not des/das suck ass
DaS2 apologists people who defend shitty features like soulmemory or adp
Never ever sony fags (people that don't even care for the souls series but spam about BB being the best because its ps4)
DS3babies who deflect to ds2 when their game gets criticized

Why is the souls fanbase on /v/ so retarded?

>>378132208
>I know Dark Souls 2 is trash but agree with him on this because he hates Blumf

>>378148698
He's just a Youtuber who made a critique on DaS2 that was popular within the fanbase. Most people agree with it because a lot of it is obvious shit that people just didn't seem to notice the first time around.

>>378147549
>jerk off to superior 2D instead of spending time and effort on random sluts
>watch shitty triple A and indie movie "games" on youtube instead of paying to watch them
The internet is pretty good m8

>>378132721
...o-okay uhh..uh d-dark souls 2 is.. is bad because t-there is a death counter in m-majula... uhh

dark souls 2 is uhh... bad...bad game b-because this boss has a lot of mobs and...and.. i can't play without lock on

>>378148242
he beat the game without a shield on a later playthrough though

his comments about lock on were also pretty fair since they also apply without using lock on, for instance most weapons which don't have some form of vertical swing attack require you to lock on to the congregation enemies on the floor or point your camera in such a way that you can't see the other enemies anyway, likewise if you lock on to the dragonrider you can't really see the bow user, this would be the case if you were manually aiming the camera too

the point is the enemy placements in some areas aren't well thought out and there is often nothing a player can do to manage the situation in a safe way, they exploit a fault in the game's camera system to build a challenge out of it which doesn't feel particularly fair

also if the developers expected you to play the game without locking on then why don't they ever teach you this? why did they improve the lock on functionality by allowing you to roll in multiple directions while locked on?

>DaS2fags are still mad

It's been over three years, fucking get over it. You like the worst game in the series but the series as a whole is above average so even the worst game isn't bad.

>>378149018
>also if the developers expected you to play the game without locking on then why don't they ever teach you this? why did they improve the lock on functionality by allowing you to roll in multiple directions while locked on?
yeah man, why does a game that is know for not holding your hand suddenly hold your hand

they took the same exact design into bb where non-lock on play was superior to lock on play ie amygdala, rom, darkbeast loran, paarl, hblb, blb, bsb, etc

>>378148174
Even though he had some valid points, he pretty much just bitched and complained that the game wasn't a textbook sequel to Dark Souls. DS2 is a flawed game, but it was nowhere near as shitty as he made it sound.

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>>378145046
Pretty right on.

>>378149260
This is objectively correct.

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>>378145046
im kinda glad the series is finally over 2bh

>>378145297
Sums it up pretty much perfectly other than DS1 was my first game so my hype was huge when playing it.

>>378149438
Honest question. Why didn't you like 3?

>>378149363
sure if you're retarded and literally too stupid yo play DaS2

I don't know who any of these people are and I'm not clicking on that link. Dork Souls is for normies.

Scholar feels like a rom hack?

>>378149762
Outside the boss fights the game really didn't have anything substantial to offer. Linearity issues, build variety, piss-poor pvp, covenants not even working, no ng+ additions, little to no originality, boring fan-service which takes me out of the game and realize how much they were trying to capitalize on the das1 fans by exploiting nostalgia. I don't hate it, but it's probably my least favorite souls game.

>>378149832
>you don't like DaS2 because you're dumb

>>378149940
Yep. The really ruined DaS2 with SotFS.

Adding 5x-10x the amount of enemies and a bunch of petrified statues doesn't improve the game, it just doesn't. It makes it frustrating and tedious.

>>378150096
yep thanks for confirming

Dark Souls 2 is a great game, it's just not a very good Dark Souls game. My second playthrough I told myself to treat it like just some random Souls like title and play it that way. It was a much better experience all around.

DaS2 level design was retarded
Life gems were a mistake
Losing my souls wasent enough of a punishment so they lower my hp everytime I die
The hitboxes were beyond fucked
The blatant downgrade with the lighting and particle affects also making most of the metal armor look like plastic
Generic enemy designs like giant dudes in armor or straight ripping bosses from DaS1

>>378150229
>more enemies that are inconsequential since they die in 2-3 hits
I bet you run straight through a crowded area then complain when you get ganked
>more petrified statues
and more fragrant branches too. literally nowhere in the game have I ever run out of branches or have I not had one when I needed one

>>378130593
I played ds2 to NG+7, I only beat dark souls once and ds3 ng+2

ds2 is a better game

>>378150230
I didn't have any problems playing it and I still thinks it's shit.

>>378150362
>not a good dark souls game
>when it's much more in line with dark souls and demon souls than 3 is
wow epic

>>378150080

I found the PvP far more tolerable in DS3 than DS2

>No bullshit gear like the no backstab shirt
>people don't pull out daggers to riposte every single fucking time they parry
>no gem spamming

DS3 fell short in the art direction I can agree to that, every other location is some big church thing and all the cool areas are a lot smaller than they appear to be. DS3 "feels" better because it runs on the same modified engine as Bloodborne, so general combat feels excellent in DS3.

>>378150459
The base game already had areas filled with enemies, doubling it doesn't do anything. The only good change SotFS added was the change to Dragon Covenant fags infront of Ancient Dragon

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>>378150576

>using all the bad game designs from the older games is a good idea!

While I respect your opinion, it's still a terrible one.

>>378150835
>they're bad designs because I couldn't learn
another zinger!

>>378150683
>>No bullshit gear like the no backstab shirt
I was fine with that being gone
>>people don't pull out daggers to riposte every single fucking time they parry
We instead had Yhorm Machete/BKGA swaps after every parry for the first half of this game's lifespan.
>>no gem spamming
ds3 estus is much much worse

>>378150576

>farming healing items is good!
>having bullshit equipment that everyone uses and kills varied builds is good!
>Having an incoherent and shitty world design is good!
>having the worst controls out of any souls game is good!
>dying from falling 8 feet is good!
>having an easily forgettable and bad story is good
>having NPC's that nobody gives 2 shits about is good!
>"wow epic"

It sure is epic alright, just not the type of epic you're thinking of.

>>378130593
I gotta be honest he does a good job of BTFOing MatthewMatosis. I hate that faggot.

>>378149257
https://youtu.be/UScsme8didI?t=49s

Did you even watch the video or what?

>>378151107

Never had an issue with estus in DS3, but unlike most people I didn't forget how to use a lloyds.

>>378151113
>>farming healing items is good!
but its okay when des and bloodborne does it
>>having bullshit equipment that everyone uses and kills varied builds is good!
but its okay when des, das, das3 does it
>>Having an incoherent and shitty world design is good!
but its okay with bb dlc and das3 does it
>>having the worst controls out of any souls game is good!
aight
>>dying from falling 8 feet is good!
aight
>>having an easily forgettable and bad story is good
but its okay when das3 does it
>>having NPC's that nobody gives 2 shits about is good!
but its okay when das3 does it

>>378151113
i don't know which game you're talking about here lmao

>>378151258
Mhm, right it's a skill issue. Everyone that crticizes the game is bad, yup. Estus combined with the no stamina high i-frame rolling is what makes estus an issue.

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>defending the game with Soul Memory
>defending the game that made you take more damage the higher your framerate was
>defending the game that was out over a year before either of this major, glaring issues were addressed

>>378144571
What the fuck? That's actually pretty funny with how bullshit that is. I've seen some stupid shit but this one definitely takes the cake.

>>378151113
>farming healing items
way to INSTANTLY discredit any argument you'll ever have against the game
>bullshit equipment that kills varied builds
compared to what? happens in literally every souls game, and in fact it was OBJECTIVELY the most varied in 2 because of the various auxiliary effects on nearly every piece of armor and the fact that many weapons had different interactions with infusions. play the game you criticize you absolute retard
>incoherent and shitty world design
1 area, the elevator. that is the only questionable spot. and the other games have the same bullshit
>worst controls
so you're too stupid to spend 1 second to learn and adapt to the controls which are identical to DaS anyways so i'm not sure what the fuck you're arguing there
>dying from 8 feet is good
if only there were like 15 ways to negate fall damage
>easily forgettable and bad story
again, compared to what? the story is literally the most cohesive and comprehensive one in the series objectively
>npcs that nobody gives 2 shits about
"it's bad because i don't le like it!!!"

yep, again. wow just fucking epic the lengths you eceleb shills will go to to suck their cocks

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>Dark Souls 3 uses the shitty "Slap one and then spin attack" backstab for axes and spears and shit.
>Not the FAR superior "Unique backstab animations for each weapon-type" Dark Souls 2 had
>The stamina-break riposte on large enemies is LITERALLY the backstab animation but up-front for those weapons
>Unlike the Dark Souls 2 riposte animations
>No power-stancing
>Torch in 3 is literally used for nothing but removing leeches. They didn't even try to make use of DaS2's lighting feature it was SUPPOSED to have.
>The environments in 3 are hella boring and play it extremely safe.

DaS2 has problems.
DaS3 is mediocre because it half-asses everything for fear of being "DaS2 2.0."

>>378151656
>glaring issues
you mean minor inconveniences?

>>378146068
>states in his video that he's not being contrarian despite what his critics claim
>goes on to be blatantly contrarian
>separates professional reviews from "reactionary critics" as if to say that those paid by major corporations have more authority
What did he mean by this?

His points about fighting without lock-on were decent. That's really the only thing he had to say in his entire video that was of value.

My favourite part of his video is when he tries to discredit Matthew's criticism by saying he's bad at the game because he got flattened by a turtle knight after circle strafing it, when anybody who watched that video knows he was demonstrating that the turtle knights had a move designed to deal with circle strafing and was actively talking about it at that point.

>>378151656
>>defending the game that made you take more damage the higher your framerate was
>>defending the game that was out over a year before either of this major, glaring issues were addressed
Those were PC issues, sorry. Wasn't affected by. Next time play the games how they're suppose to be played

On a console.

also btw soul memory doesn't effect you if you dont play online

>>378151280

>but it's okay when des and bloodborne do it

It isn't, they're the weakest parts of both games which makes them both objectively worse than DS1 or DS3.

>but its okay when des, das, das3 does it
DS3 has less bullshit items than any of its previous iterations, but das2 and des have the worst bullshit items out of any of the games.
>but its okay with bb dlc and das3 does it

Bloodborne is literally a dream, it has to be an incoherent mess because that's what dreams are, you fucking imbecile. The end of DaS3 + the DLC is all the different timelines collapsing in on each other as a metaphor for the apocalypse/end of the world, something clearly beyond your comprehension.

>aight

aight

>aight

aight

>but its okay when das3 does it

It's really not, it was a huge disappointment story wise and they could've done more to make it unique. Yurias questline felt like a missed opportunity with how it could've progressed as an example. And after 5 games it's obvious all the NPC's you "help" are just going to die at the end anyway, so really it doesn't have much of a choice based on how the previous games were made. Even patches tells it like it is at the end of the DS3 DLC, I'm just here to have fun playing Dark Souls.

>>378151721
>the controls aren't bad
>it's your fault for being too stupid to adapt to them
>but they're the same as the first game anyway so you don't need to adapt to them
>lol I don't even know what you're talking about

good shit

Where Hbomber lost any credibility was when he tried defending DS2's level design.

>>378152002
if they were meant to be played on a console then why aren't they made on a console

check

>>378151950
>>378152063
This, he makes one decent point in the entire video. Everything else is a bunch of wank.

>>378152027
>is all the different timelines collapsing in on each other
Which is what Drangelic is described as, good job anon.

>>378152034
>can't even make an argument
lol, pathetic

what controls are there to adapt to anyways? how are the controls bad like you said? you're the one that's meant to elaborate on your (non)arguments

>>378151378

Demons, DS2, and Bloodborne, the weakest of all the Souls games.

>>378151656

Contrarians will always downplay valid criticism, usually by saying something conceded or stupid like, "They're just minor inconveniences!" or, "It doesn't affect if you if you play the online game in offline mode!"

>>378151113
>Farming healing items
Not required to beat the game, just makes it easier to do so. Also you can purchase a stack of life gems very easily after the first 2-3 bosses.
>World Design
It's far better to have a more varied world design than to have to slog through the same shitty cathedral/ruined castle with a different visual filter.
>Worst Controls
I'll give you that, the game certainly had shitty controls and some bad design choices (ADP)
>Fall Damage
What? I don't recall this ever being a real issue apart from getting to that one place from Majula
>Forgettable story
Better than having no cohesive story whatsoever, as is the case in Dark Souls 3.
>NPC's that nobody gives 2 shits about
This is a way more prevalent issue in Dark Souls 3, none of the characters have any ounce of personality outside of the ones who are REUSED from previous games, and maybe greirat.
Now: the issues with dark souls 3:
>No power stancing = less build variety
>Shields are pretty fucking useless
>SO MUCH REHASHING
>Why am I fighting the same enemies over and over in 3 separate areas?
>Why are all of the enemies just some guy?
>WHY IS EVERYTHING YELLOW
>WHY IS MAGIC SO WEAK/UNVARIED
>WHY IS COMBAT SO UNVARIED?

>>378144571

Gotta admit, for being the buggy and unfinished mess that it is, it's still one of the best games of its time. Too bad DS2's level of buggy unfinishedness was scores worse.

>>378152186
>souls is an online game
huh weird, game never told me i had to be online to play

>>378138340
>video literally has absolutely nothing to do with /pol/
> better blame /pol/ anyway
Have we finally reached that point?

>No twinblades in 3

>>378145275

It's a great game if you take the Dark Souls out of its name, otherwise it's giving fans and/or returning players a false expectation.

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DaS1 has shit hitboxes
>SHOCKWAVE
DaS2 has shti hitboxes
>THANKS B-TEAM!

DaS1 has ugly graphics with copypaste textures, bottomless pits and glitches
>THE GAME GOT RUSHED! IT WASN'T THEIR FAULT - ITS STILL VERY ATMOSPHERIC AND IT ALSO HAS ITS OWN CHARM
DaS2 has ugly graphics with copypaste textures, bottomless pits and glitches
>WORST SOULS GAME - HOW CAN ANYONE PLAY THIS UGLY MESS???

DaS1 has shit bosses
>PRICILLA IS AMAZING TOP CUTE WAIFU! WHO CARES ABOUT THE FIGHT BEING EASY?
>EVERYONE LOVES ASYLUM DEMON SO ITS OKAY FOR HIM TO BE THERE THREE TIMES!
>GWYNDOLIN IS TOP TRAP - I LOVE HIM!
DaS2 has shit bosses
>B-TEAM CAN'T GET ANYTHING RIGHT
>THIS IS ALL JUST REHASH SIMPLY UNFORGIVABLE - NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN A SOULS GAME
>SMELTER IS TOO HARD FUCK FROMSOFT WHY ARE THERE TWO OF THEM

DaS1 is slow
>THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER - TRUE FANTASY COMBAT
>FEELS LIKE BERSERK

DaS2 is slow
>THIS SHIT IS SO SLUGGISH
>MY MOVEMENTS ARE TOO FUCKING SLOW WHY CAN'T I HIT FASTER WITH MY UGS??? GARBAGE COMBAT

DaS1 has gank fights
>THIS IS DARK SOULS BABBY
>SURPRISES LIKE THIS IS WHAT I LIVE FOR
DaS2 has gank fights
>WHERE DO ALL THESE ENEMIES COME FROM I WAS JUST PEACEFULLY RUNNING THROUGH THE PLACE?
>ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY - THIS IS NOT DARK SOULS AT ALL

>>378152494
But really though the only reason DS2 gets shit on is because Miyazaki wasn't behind it.

Look at DS3, probably the worst souls game in existence but people defend it to death because Miyazaki's name is on it

>>378145960

It's the same opinionated contrarian shithole that this place is, just behind a paywall.

>>378148547

It's a good game, just not a good Dark Souls game. Is this concept beyond your understanding?

>>378152494
>Priscilla
>Gwyndolin
>bad

Also DaS2 wasn't just slow, it felt like you were underwater.

You also conveniently didn't mention level/world design, something DaS1 excels in and DaS2 fails miserably in.

>>378152575
>But really though the only reason DS2 gets shit on is because Miyazaki wasn't behind it.
Shut up, I didnt even knew who Miyazaki was when I started playing Dark Souls and still think that DS2 is vastly inferior to DS1 and DS2.
Ass game.

>>378152575
DS2 gets shit from me purely for fucking up the lighting.

>>378152693
what about it makes it a bad dark souls game to you?

>75k subscribers
>the year of our lord 2017 and people still think dark souls 2 is good

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>>378149260

>bloodborne
>it's perfect!
>farming for healing items is perfect!

>>378152693
>dark souls is a good game, it's just not a good demon's souls game

see how retarded your non-argument sounds?
DaS2 feels and is just like DaS and DeS

>>378152694
>He likes a boss who only hits you if you are retarded

>He likes the endless corridor run

If Priscilla and Gwyndolin were DaS2 bosses everyone would rank them among the likes of Covetous Demon

>>378142905
>internet is shit
>WAAHH what is this lag?!

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>>378152494
ds1 had good graphics though

>>378152796
sotfs lighting is objectively better than anything else in the series

>>378152856
>being so bad at the game that you have to farm vials

If you're that shit you might as well just revert to 1.0 and dupe them.

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>>378152002


.5/10

>>378152843
most of his subscribers are people who like him because he advances the ideals of socialism by pointing out logical fallacies in sargon of akkad videos followed by exaggerated laughter

>>378152575
>But really though the only reason DS2 gets shit on is because Miyazaki wasn't behind it.

>Let's just ignore the fucked up development on the game, the fact it didn't look like the previews shown about it, the level design, lame bosses, etc etc. No! It was because Miyazaki didn't direct it!

>DS3
>Worst Souls in existence
>When DS2 exists

>>378152989
So... 5?

>>378152575
hit he nail on the head

>>378145297
Pretty much this.
I liked 3 too but didn't enjoy it as much. I think it's just because souls games are similar and by DS3 I kinda felt burnt out

>>378152904
Even if they weren't particularly difficult they were different. Both are helped a lot by the atmosphere. This plays a huge part in a lot of DaS2's boss fights that people dislike too. There's no atmosphere in Covetous Demon's fight, you just fight a big fat shit. No gimmicks, no reasons to care.

>>378152968
I don't give a shit about Scholar of the PLEASE BUY MY GAME 2.0

I give a shit about the completely un-used torch and lighting mechanic that was prevalent throughout a LARGE FUCKING CHUNK OF DARK SOULS 2, MAKING SOME AREAS COMPLETELY BULLSHIT IRRELEVANT AND PISS-EASY BECAUSE THEY WERE DESIGNED AND BALANCED AROUND "YOU NEED THE TORCH TO FUCKING SEE, RETARD," BUT YOU DIDN'T NEED THE TORCH TO FUCKING SEE BECAUSE THEY DELETED THAT ENTIRE THING WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY BETWEEN THE BETA AND LAUNCH.

Fuck off.

>>378152327

Oh you're a pussy who is afraid of players better than them so you play offline, now I understand your position much better, thanks for clarifying!

>>378130593
Y does anyone care wut some fag on YouTube says. U realize his shit opinion is just as shit as anyone on /v/

>>378144414
>dark souls 1
>1 bad area
>dark souls 2
>the entire game is a bad area
Really activates my almonds

>>378152965
You mean artstyle.

>>378145297
This, it gets old saying you like DS3 the least and then everyone gets on your dick saying im a ds2fag, like fuck off. I like all the games, just ds3 the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHcZf5iDj-I&t=1014s

>>378153223
>haha if you don't like this unbalanced side mode that was thrown in as an afterthought you're a pussy
What are you, 12?

II is better than III.

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>Play DeS
>Have a great time in its thick atmosphere exploring every single area and beating all the bosses

>Play DaS
>Have even more fun exploring the now more open and interconnected world and its secrets

>Play DaS2
>Feels like my own personal adventure and Majula is top comfy

>Play DaS3
>Don't feel anything at all while playing it - It's just me moving forward killing all the bosses because thats what the game tells me to do

>>378153552
2 is better than 3 but DeS/DaS/BB are leagues above 2.

>>378153279
yes and ds2 is a step down from it
youre pretending like there isnt much of a difference from 1 and 2 graphically, when the first is clearly a much nicer looking game

>>378153472
>Dark Souls' online features
>"Side mode"
Uhhhhhh

>>378130593
Dark souls 2 wasn't awful, but it had some serious flaws
>horrible stat bloat (adp)
>soul memory
>textures look like ass because they were designed for a lighting system that got scrapped
That said, going back it feels like it had more love put into it than dark souls 3

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>still did online play the best way in the series

>>378152823

Expectations, after playing Demons and Dark Souls I knew what FROM was capable with their series. When 2 came out and I was greeted with crap controls, a world that should've been coherent but was just a mess of overlapping impossible space, boring enemies and bosses, and 10 foot drops that would take 3/4 of your health bar. It took more bad ideas than good ones from the previous games to bring back, and it just felt like it had been through 8 different versions before someone said, "fuck it, ship it as it is!" The lighting downgrade is what I'd use as an example of this happening.

>>378153635
das3 feels the most video gamey than even DeS and that game had literal "levels"

>>378153667
Exactly.

>>378148995
Good luck he didn´t say that.

The counter was around the fact that the game was made uppon dificulty memery, and it failed because artificial difficulty is shit.

And yes, prowling is shit and the annoying lock on system in the saga could make you lose some HP.

>>378153552
Mechanically, 3 is ahead of 2. But I prefer 2 because they tried to do something different and it actually has its own identity.

3 is a mish mash of 1 and Bloodborne, with constant fan wanking of 1. It has no identity of its own.

>>378130593
I don't care about this social bullshit of yours.
What does it matter that people hate a game?
Why would a game even need defense?

It's all fucking retarded and doesn't mean anything. Stop wasting your time on this shit.

>>378153884
>dificulty memery,
yeah thats the point of dark souls, you silly silly boy

>>378153279

I don't know about you, but using DSFix has shown how crisp and detailed the majority of textures are. It holds up well for a game that came out in 2011.

>>378153884
>it's artificial difficulty because it gave me slight issues

>>378153472

You're like a toddler questioning their parents criticism after saying something stupid, it's really sad.

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If you actually have to go on a tyrade about how Dark Souls 2 isn't actually THAT bad. It's probably THAT bad.

>>378153742

I totally forgot about the massive mistake that was ADP, thanks for reminding me of the "you need to have this stat regardless" system.

>>378154189
>You can either spec into tanking or spec into dodging...
>HURRR I CANT DO BOTH THIS GAME IS SHIT

Back to skyrim with you

>>378154152
hmmm if you have to defend a game, it's probably bad to begin with

:thinking:

>>378153737
Yeah because they keep putting color filters on everything to hide the bad graphics.

>>378153973
>a mod to make the game look good still looks worse than the majority of games that came out this year

>>378154302

Haven't played Skyrim since 11/12/11 but you go on ahead and keep making stupid assumptions and comments, it really makes your character shine!

>>378154426

>I don't know what DSFix actually is or what it does

Either you're just here to shitpost or your first Souls game is Dark Souls 2.

>>378151230
>From the video description
>I've played through the game three times:
Knight, melee only, latter half in Company of
Champions.

>Hexer, no shield, participated in all covenants.
Dex, poison build, Company of Champions.
I feel this has given me a good overview of the different possible builds/covenants. I never record my first playthrough of a game so there's no footage of the Knight.

Good to see hbomberguy did his research.

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>>378130593
Stop propping up this cuck when Joseph Aryan Anderson already rebutted MatthewKEKtosis on why DaS2 was a better game years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9jrShSwjPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKrli-EvCdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rrs9bdrwO4

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>>378130593

Hbomber is based as fuck. He routinely BTFOs /pol/shits and shows how infantile and pathetic their far-right views are.

The fact that he has masterful taste in liking DS2 is just icing on the cake.

>>378153967
And that's why souls games are shit. DaS did a good job with atmosphere and DaS2 did multiplayer really well, but both games suffer greatly from having terribly boring, garbage combat.

>>378154709
0/10

>>378154540
DSFix make resolution, DOF and texture changes that weren't there in the PS3 version because, while well intentioned, the devs don't know jackshit about optimising, so it's pointless to talk about good graphics when the game runs like shit for machines of that year. And like I said, it's still not impressive compared to other games that came out that year. It's just that Souls fans are used to bad graphics.

>>378154690
>why DaS2 was a better game

I remember him averaging out das to 8/10 and das2 to 7/10

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>>378152494
Ds2 is uninspired dog shit that LITERALLY copypastes assets. Ds3 wasn't even this bad

>>378154709
right wing? more like.... wrong wing ehehehe

>>378155001
>posting this again after i told you how wrong you were before
pathetic

>>378155001
dark souls 3 copy and pastes bloodborne assets and literally has dark souls 1 enemies, bosses, music and levels in it

>>378154189
>"you need to have this stat regardless"

ADP had a lot of problems (such as no visual indication and hitboxes not updating properly) but you'd have to be retarded to think the stat was mandatory or that more options are bad.

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>>378144105
Only happen on pc.
Hated DS2 for the soul memory, what crap.

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>>378155263

>>378155276
This, I beat Dark Souls 2 my first time never touching it and was cosplaying as Ironclad for fuck's sake. You can literally walk sideways from Pursuer's slashes for instance.

>>378154189
that's like saying you absolutely have to use the dark woodgrain ring in dark souls since leveling adp eventually gets you the same amount of iframes

>>378155434
that picture is subjective

>>378155434
all present in 3

>>378154426
>to hide the bad graphics.
which is something that ds2 didnt do nearly as well if at all
take a look at any game that you think has 'good graphics' and i guaruntee you there will be flaws in its design
its how the devs choose to hide the things that they cannot directly control that makes a game look good or bad for its time
its all smoke and mirrors, and its more than just color filters

>>378155434
HEY HEY HEY, REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1?
LOOK AN ESTUS, BUT LOOK AT THE CORPSE
ITS AN ASTORA KNIGHT, LIKE THAT PART IN ASYLUM FROM OSCAR, DO YOU REMEMBER? DO YOU REMEMBER

HEY LOOK, LOOK, ITS FIRELINK, YOU KNOW, THAT PLACE IN DARK SOULS 1? DO YOU REMEMBER?? LOOK IN THAT CORNER, DO YOU SEE WHO I SEE?? ITS ANDRE!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU REMEMBER HIM FROM DARK SOULS 1? Don't pay too much attention to the dark souls 2 shrine maiden, we just put here there for cause lol..

BUT HEY LOOK, A CRESTFALLEN WARRIOR SOBBING NEAR THE BONFIRE, WHOAA!!!!

HEEEEEY, REMEMBER HOW YOU GOT TO ANOR LONDO WITH THE DEMONS, WELL WE LOOK RIGHT OVER HERE JUST LIFT THE BANNER!!! DO YOU REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1 YET??

HEY REMEMBER THE 4 GREAT LORDS FROM DARK SOULS 1, YEAH FUCKING ACES BRO.

HEY REMEMBER SIF, THE DOG FROM DARK SOULS 1?
hEY REMEMBER ARTORIAS, HES FROM DARK SOULS 1

AWWW SHIT YOU NEED A DOLL, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT PART FROM DARK SOULS 1

WHOA CHECK IT, DEMON RUINS!! DO YOU REMEMBER THE DEMONS FROM DARK SOULS 1??

AWWW SHIT BIG HAT LOGAN, DO YOU REMEMBER HIM? FROM DARK SOULS 1

rEMEMBER LONGFINGER KIRK??
REMEMBER ANOR LONDO
REMEMBER GWYNDOLIN?
REMEMBER DEMON SOULS?
rEMEMBER THE GRAND ARCHIVES?
REMEMBER GWYN, THE FINAL BOSS FROM DARK SOULS?? HERES HIS THEME
REMEMBER THE PAINTED WORLD
rEMEMBER ORNSTEIN AND SMOUGH
rEMEMBER FIRELINK AGAIN?
REMEMBER ANOR LONDO?
REMEMBER ARTORIAS AGAIN??

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Every Souls game after DaS felt like shit to me.
>Warping from the start makes all exploration feel like a chore
>Having to warp back to the level which literally contributes nothing to the game except even more loading screens
>Pretty much every other enemy has the same fucking flailing type attack the torch undead from DaS had that destroys your stamina instantly
>Pretty much all of DaS2s bosses are shit
>99% of Bloodborne and DaS3 bosses have moves that are basically just flailing seizures that last for like 10 second and will one shot you if you don have 100% stamina
>DaS2 has so many items that I stopped caring about half the shit in my inventory
>Bloodborne has so few items that I've never felt even slightly compelled to play through again
>DaS3 structure is a complete clusterfuck
I have absolutely no interest in any future Souls games at this point.

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>>378155858

>>378153967

(you)

DS2 was a dissapointment anyway you slice it.

>>378155858
>WHOA CHECK IT, DEMON RUINS!! DO YOU REMEMBER THE DEMONS FROM DARK SOULS 1??
THIS I fucking hated, holy shit it's so fucking blatant too, just demon corpses wall to wall and then you go further in and you find a dead spider corpse with a body resting on it. HMMMM.

>>378155276
>more options
Taking something that was previously a given and making it now require investment is not adding options, its padding
Why they felt the need to pad out the stats is beyond me

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>>378154956
DaS2 becomes an objectively better game when you include the DLC Crowns. DaS becomes so bad after you get the lordvessel that only one new area isn't enough to make up for the blatantly rushed areas in the final third of the game.

>>378156108

>allowing you to boost your damage, HP, or armor at the expense of rolling isn't more options.

Try rephrasing your argument into something that isn't, by definition, incorrect.

I literally never had a weapon break when I was playing DaS2, and I put in hundreds of hours into that game.

DaS2 also has far and away the best combat in the series instead of grass spam in DeS, constant backstab fishing in DaS1 and Bloodborne gank squads in DaS3.

DaS2 is the only game where the enemies have some weight behind them. DeS, DaS, DaS3, BB all have enemies made of paper that stagger all over the place when you slap them, even bosses like Maria or Elfriede.

>>378156514
It's not allowing you to do that, it's forcing you to choose between the two, something prior games didn't do
It would have been fine if they kept it like it was in the beta

>>378152309
>>378153276
Not
An
Argument

>>378152491
>it's a good game, just not a good x game
literally not an argument

>>378130593
Hour and 20 mins of what I am assuming a guy fanboying over ds2. kek

Ds2 was not a bad game, worst in the series yes and kinda bland but not bad.

>>378156136
I want to fill Roll's estus flask with my sunny D

>>378146418
But it is and was
1 is shit and /v/ only likes it because muh nostalgia

>>378156745

>choosing between two options is now not "an option".

Seriously, I'll be here for the next hour. Take some time to think it through, then post something that makes sense.

I mean fuck, if we go by your logic then all mechanics should just be tied to one single stat.

DaS2 is a 6/10 game in a series that consists entirely of 9/10 games. It's a DMC2 of Souls games.

>>378156525
The weapon degradation in the game is basically the only time in the series I'd say it's a real mechanic, and even then in SotFS it's just something you check at the end of a level to see if you need a quick stop before continuing. It's really not something you worry about unless you go through levels with only one weapon.

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>>378153973
>M-M-MODS WILL FIX IT

>>378157425
DeS 7/10
DaS 9/10
DaS2 6/10
BB 10/10
DaS3 2/10

>>378157084
In dark souls 1 and demon souls I didn't have to dump points in anything to get my i-frames, I just got them
Yeah, it's adding options, but in a pretty shitty and dumb way. Like I said, if they had kept it as resistance and agility as it was in the beta and made tanking more viable it would have been perfectly fine

>>378157616
DeS is 3 points too high.

>>378157747
Granted, but in Dark 1 and Demon's you leveled up slower. By the end of 2 you were a higher level than you would be by the end of 1 or Demon's so you can afford to dump some extra points into ADP.

DaS1 is an objectively bad game

>>378157747
As a trade off they made leveling extremely cheap in Dark Souls 2, you never need any of the iframes as they made sure everything in the game was able to be dodged with base iframes. It's not too hard to get 96 agi (20 adp) and get DaS1 mid roll status.

It's not a penalty, it's a bonus. Your complain is like those who said soulform/hollowed is a punishment and unfair so DaS3 changed it made it feel like Ember was a bonus and human wasn't a penalty.

>>378130593
>BTFO
But it was rambling bullshit?

>>378130593
>SJW
>based
No.

>2017
>giving a fuck about DaS 2

It's a shit from soft game and an ever shittier game altogether.

Dark Souls 2 is a great Souls game, probably the best one actually, but not a very good game.

>>378157747

You're still just claiming "it's shitty" without giving any reason why but at least you've stopped pretending that options aren't actually options.

If DaS1 is better because it gave you ADP for free (effectively speaking) and then barred you from upgrading or downgrading it, then you're claiming that future souls games will be better if more stats were similarly restricted -- if they remove more decision making.

I think what you're trying to say is that DaS2 doesn't give you enough souls to make up for the fact that you now need more souls to reach a "base" DaS1 character but that is not true; you can get a character that plays functionally identical to a DaS1 character in ten minutes.

>>378158587
It's shitty because splitting up stats too much makes certain playstyles far less viable, as some may require dumping into four stats to work while others only one
Bloodborne had the simplest stat system and consequently the best heavy weapons in any of the games. Not everything needs to be tied to a stat

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>>378158949
BB did without Equip Load, that's why it worked so well.

>>378158949
>It's shitty because splitting up stats too much makes certain playstyles far less viable, as some may require dumping into four stats to work while others only one

Luckily DaS2 doesn't fall into this problem.

In general, though, this statement isn't true. If each point put into those four stats gave you four times the effectiveness (at whatever you're trying to do) then you'd get equally viable builds given the same stat investment. No developer splits up a stat and goes "well let's just say one point put into it raises the stat by one" -- if that were the case then 40 ADP would give you 40 iframes.

>>378133487
Both games have the same control scheme you moron

>>378155001
>copypastes assets
>assets
inigomontoya.jpg

>>378159410
>>378158949

Or for another example, some people claim that STR should also boost equip load. This is stupid, as not all strength weapons are heavy and you'd be forcing all, say, mace builds into investing in equip load.

These stats should clearly be split and either
- heavy strength weapons are boosted to compensate
or
- each point put into equip load should provide more equip load.

In other words, you shouldn't complain about splitting stats but rather developers incapable of simple balancing.

>>378139621
dark souls fixed a lot of problems DeS had, and then subsequent sequels forgot they fixed them.

>>378140713
Agape wasn't around until SOTFS, and the lack thereof really hurt my experience going through.

>>378157616
DeS 7/10
DaS 6/10
DaS2 8/10
BB 9/10
DaS3 7/10

>>378140715
It is nowhere near as effective as in DaS

DeS 0/10
DaS 10/10
DaS2 10/10
DaS3 10/10
BB 0/10