apologize

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>>378126390

>>378126410
That already released

>>378126390
About god damn time.

>>378126390
Source?

>>378126390
Please tell me they'll get actual competent devs on it this time.
>Hire literal shovelware devs and some ecelebs from the fightan community
>Pay them in shoelaces
>Be surprised when the game is shit

>>378127224
Game wasn't even that bad, just buggy as shit.

I actually had fun with this game back when it came out, but jesus, sooo many things about it were absolute shit

>>378126390
I wish this thing was successfull to keep sakurai on his fucking feet

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I'd rather they just straight up copy Smash's gameplay instead of the stupid only kill with supers bullshit.

>>378127096
While I was looking for the PSASBR trademark, I noticed that not only Sony still owns the trademark for What Remains of Edith Finch, but that they asked for (and were granted) an extension on May 15, 2017

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>>378127642
>Matches go for 10+ minutes because my friends and I are too fucking smart to get hit by supers

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>>378126390
i literally, unironically, like this game better than super smash bros

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>>378127371
The game was bad m8
>Balance between characters is busted as shit
>Game mechanics put a focus on air camping
>Most characters don't have ways to hit someone in the air for huge damage meanwhile air to ground conversions either kill or AP burst
>Being in the air is inherently safer on top of this because of mobility
>Really hard to press advantage because being in the air is so safe, blockstun doesn't exist, and pretty much all non top tiers have shit okizeme

>>378127843
Also this
Zeus Dittos could go on for hours because Zeus can escape all of Zeus's kill options without difficulty

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>>378126390
>mfw i felt like the only person on /v/ who liked PSASBR and actually defended it in the hourly shitpost threads

>>378127642
Some insiders said it will be more like Powerstone

I mean, if Kingdom Hearts is allowed to be a franchise and the Mario X Rabbids thing turned out to be true...

>>378128056
Why defend it after patch 1.06?
Desu I stuck with the game because I thought it had potential but every patch after 1.05 felt like it was maliciously made to make the game worse.

Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to make a mascot fighter when your best mascot is "dude in a shirt"? I know Sony has no talent or creativity on their own, but they could at least put some thought into what to steal.

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>Ready? FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
>ALL METAL HEADS MUST DIE!!!
>CAKE PLEASE
>GLAD I COULD HELP
>GLAD I COULD HELP
>GLAD I COULD HELP

>>378128541
They treat their own franchise in a way they make Konami look like they respect Silent Hill.

Why were Spike's level attacks so shit?
In MM there was a power up where you'd be on fire just to fuck with enemies.
They could have added that as a level 2 while 1 would have been the sword thing.

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I love the rival scenes between Kat and Graves, is like they did those with better writing, Graves thinking that Kat can be a menace because she doesn't know how to use her powers well was a great idea and more because he saw what happens in his adventure.

>>378129853
If i was him, i would treat Kat nicely and ask her if i could put her feet in my mouth

https://incorrect-psabr-quotes.tumblr.com/

Remember the coca cola game?

I hope this is true. Liked the first game, but a lot could have been better.

>>378131751

It would be better this time if they use 3rd party, even as a commercial it would have better characters: 2B, Noctis, Fury, P5MC...not to mention Crash and FF7 remakes.

>>378131593
Yes and it was shit

i just remember throws being super silly, pretty much making the game balanced around who had the best level 1 supers

>>378126390

The arenas in this game were so much more inspired than the recent smash games.

I just loved the mix of different universes.

The game was pretty bad tho

a major reason why the game didn't succeed is that gamers are simply stupid, they have low IQs and many of them are autistics who tried to play the game exactly like super smash bros(stock, no items, practice large stage and 1v1)

this game is made for FFA and TIMED with ITEMS,

G E T
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>>378134534
Yeah, the "two game worlds mashed together" arenas could've been enough to put it head and shoulders above Smash if it weren't for some of the game's retarded design decisions.

>>378133837
I can tell this is somebody who wasn't any good at the game *sigh* with a more skilled player base we could have a sequel already

>>378129853
Reminder that Graves and Kat were the first playable black people in this genre.

WHERE'S MAH DOC LOUIS, NINTENDO!?

>>378126390
Oh shit I'm sorry.

>>378136482
kat isn't black what the FUCK

>>378136482
Kat is delicious brown

>>378129853
Why is Kat so shit? She ruined the whole game

>>378135651

>being proud of yourself that youre good at one of the worst games of our lifetime
>proud enough to be condescending to a fellow player

Kys autismo

>>378136482
First black people in a fighting game?

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lads

LADS

>>378137579
Instead of Smash, they'll try to compete with Mario X Rabbids as contender for worst video game crossover.

>>378126390
people have been talking about the sequel forever and I'm tired of it
just give me a goddamn trailer sony you fucking assholes

>>378137858
inb4 the trailer also has shitty techno music

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>>378137340
welcome to the big league kid, that feeling when you played and got CRUSHED? well, yeah. IT'S BACK

when you read my replies to you? ITS BACK.

when you hear the sequel is back? you will instinctively feel me ending you with my level 1 super.

>>378137748
Now this is a competition I want to see.

>>378137579
If a sequel happens, they better don't remove my man Zeus

>>378126390
>>378126410
I'm sorry, i'm a complete retard when it comes to these things. What does this mean?

POST WISHLISTS:
>Majima from Yakuza
>Tomba
>Raziel from Legacy of Kain
>Abe from Oddworld
>Spyro
>Norman Jayden from Heavy Rain
>Uncle Death from Let It Die
>Knack

>>378139602
Cancellation

>>378136482
Balrog.

>>378134702
Smash still does that better.

>>378139602
>The Good Hunter joins the Hunt

>>378140221
Objectively and demonstrably false.

Never reply to me again if you know what's good for you.

>>378140221
I'd argue PSASBR did items/time better than smash did. Items and hazards fuck a smash game hard. Most of smash's stages are super shit and items are either pointless or control the entire game by being stage-consuming and broken. PSASBR items feel like the swing the tide of the game, but never enough to where whoever gets more of them wins (also, the get grabbed = drop your item mechanic is better designed than all of smash 4's ledge game). Hazards are balanced and can even be turned off. PSASBR has more good stages despite having a smaller selection.

That said, 1v1 in PSASBR without timer, items, or hazards is fucking bad. Air stalling is god, games take fucking forever because no one is dumb enough to get hit by supers, etc.

Smash feels like a party game designed so that any normie could win a game against skilled players by spamming a single move and getting lucky with items. PSASBR feels like a real party game where the most skilled person will win unless the other players gang up on him. However, even Smash 4's retarded 1v1 grab simulator competitive ruleset is better than PSASBR's equivalent.

>>378141538
Fighting game: Sm4sh >> PSASBR
Party game: PSASBR >>>>>>>>>> Sm4sh unless you're normalfag

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>>378139602
>Anyone from a Naughty Dog game
Please not knack

>>378141538
I'd say that PSABR is more balanced for 2v2 since most (non kat/raiden) characters have a glaring flaw that can be covered by another.

>>378126390
will the game be fun to play, though? or will it be the same washed out grey crap the first one was?

>>378141538
well 1v1 is never good in party games so it's a non-issue

>>378127916
is that image implying you like it /because/ it's bad?

that's what you seem to be implying, do you also enjoy the taste of shit?

>>378137579
...oh god Aloy's going to be in it.

>waah they're copying smash bros
>waah it's not like smash bros
sony can't wint

>>378142804
The eternal xbro will complain about anything

>>378142751
>They will still push later releases and upcoming games like the first one
I'm surprised Joel and Ellie weren't in the first game.

>>378142967
Me too. It's their best exclusive unless you are 5 (then it's little big planet, which they did include) and they had Drake in the game too

what was the patch that removed like all kill confirms and made it a campy air fest? I loved the game before that patch.

>>378139602
Dart Feld or Fei Fong Wong
Slayer of Demons or Good Hunter
Patapons
DMC 4 Dante
Joker P5 MC

>>378139602
Robbit
Vib Ribbon
Tomba
Rudy
Dart
Gabe Logan

>>378143642
Add a Dark cloud/chronicle or any Level-5 character and I won't care for anyone else.

>>378139602
Carmelita
Yumi
Lammy
Sorceress
KLONOA

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>>378139602
Raven
P4 Protag
Aloy
Cloud
Alucard
Crash the Bandicoot
That one asshole from Second Son who was so memorable I forgot his name
Knack

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>>378144303
NOT KNACK

>>378144125
Jaster or Jeanne would work surprisingly well for a fighting game: considering their special moves and transformations, you can get a decent moveset with little effort.

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>>378139602
>Norman Jayden from Heavy Rain

I would actually buy this game if anyone from Indigo Prophecy or Heavy Rain was in it.

>>378141772
PS All Stars isn't party game material. Smash has a control stick and three commands. Everything can be done with those and most characters deliver at least similar effects, as in, you can expect most DSmash attacks to cover both sides, or you can expect most Up B attacks to have verticality. Not only would characters' attacks have no vague similarity in PSAS like in Smash, but you also have to have a dedicated item pick up button, and the right stick dedicated to throwing, and a dedicated Final Smash button, ect. PSAS is clearly meant for an investment in time, not a party.

I want to crossdress Spike

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>>378144303
Right on! Wassup, Persona?

>>378126390
Sony can't fathom why their IPs aren't beloved.

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>>378136804

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>>378129853
Yeah, and Kat fights him because she's a racist and judged him on his appearance.

>>378145240
Think of either most of their recent ones and the most popular, then compare it with their more niche stuff and older games.
It's as if pandering to casuals and making stuff based on trends makes it more bland and forgettable, who fucking knew.
I thought people could be interested in something like Gravity Rush, since it even has Silent Hill's director, but no, here's a zombie game from the people who did Busby 3D.

>>378145449
Call it the Sony curse: your most popular and profitable properties are either shit or bland, while your best and more interesting stuff will alwats be niche and forgotten.

>>378145424
She thought that he was a Navi, very silly btw because "duh, his hands and eyes are weird, he must be a Navi".

Silly Kat.

>>378141930
Agreed

>>378146081
Kat is mentally retarded

>>378144885
>normies know what moves do
Yeah, no. It's easier for a normie to learn picking up items and use supers than it is for them to learn how to recover in smash.

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>>378140893
Always triggers my autism when people refer to BB protag as The "Good" Hunter and not just The Hunter.

Literally one NPC calls him "Good Hunter" and she's clearly using it in the way you'd use something like good sir. Everyone else just refers to him as a Hunter, which is a big enough deal in BB to be a title.

>>378145449
Correct me if im wrong but it seems like their iconic characters come from contracts with 3rd party studios. Characters like Crash and Spyro are thought of as playstation icons when Sony doesnt even own them making games like this feel like a mess of a roster with no focus because the characters come from all over the place.

We sort of have reached that point with smash and its dlc characters, but the backbone of the game largely comes from nintendos inhouse franchises that define the company.

>>378148935
But at least some studios like Naughty Dog ended up getting owned by Sony, while some of their games stay first party.
But yeah, they never owned Crash and Spyro.

>>378147785
>using it in the way you'd use something like good sir
That's what makes it good though, mate.

>>378147785
It's a way of specifying a specific one, ya dingus. In Monster Hunter 4, the PC is referred to as the "Kindred" Hunter. In Dark Souls, it's the Chosen Undead, or Cursed Undead. Because there are so many Undead, and so many Hunters in Bloodborne, it's the specific one they're talking about. Of course we KNOW that THE hunter is the PC but that doesn't stop it from being important to the character's identity.

>>378150314
>and so many Hunters in Bloodborne

There's only one active Hunter in BB and that's the protag.

Eileen is a hunter of Hunters
Gherman doesn't hunt shit anymore and neither does Djura
The League have nothing to do with the Hunters afaik
Hostile Hunters are blood addled
Alfred is an Executioner and only goes after Vilebloods

The only person actually hunting beasts is the protag.

>>378139602
Remember rival pairs when posting wishlists
Spyro + Crash
Traveler (Journey) + Amaterasu (Okami)
William (Nioh) + Dart (Legend of Dragoon)
Hunter (Bloodborne, I can dream) + Uncle Death (Let it Die)
2B (Nier) + Aigis (Persona)
Aloy (HZD) + Elizabeth (Bioshock)
Iota (Tearaway) + Knack (he'd probably be more interesting in thus game than his own)
Abe (Oddworld) + Chimera (Resistance)
Lammy (UmJammer Lammy) + Miku Hatsune
If we're REAL lucky, Snake (Metal Gear)+ Joker (Persona)
if sony wants to own my soul, Genocide Jack (Danganronpa) + Filia (Skullgirls)

I mean the first one had potential if not for it being autismically cataclysmically unbalanced so uh if they learn from their mistakes (and put in some weird characters (Bloodborne? plus now they gotta have crash) it could actually be good

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>>378126390
>tfw a single smash character reveal can cause more hype then sony literally leaking the entire roster of their shitty smash clone

>>378151390
>Elizabeth (Bioshock)
why?

>>378152982
Moveset creativity. Same reason as Knack.

>>378152769
[citation needed]

I just want Spikat to be a thing

>>378152769
It doesn't take much to get nintendo fans hype to be fair.

>>378153532
If you think otherwise you're dumb or trolling.

>>378127642
this so much

I won a $10k PSASBR tournament with a literal 30 minute Sly by spamming forward triangle.

This game is so ass but it helped pay my tuition

>>378126390
has there ever been a fighting game with a less appealing cast? i mean god some of those are fucking cringe worthy. fat princess? big daddy?
sony should have realized they really don't have the characters to pull off an all star game and just made a fighting game with an all new cast, like arms

>>378154765
Only if it's a good smash character and bad roster. If it's a roster around the calibur of last time, I'm pretty sure Little Mac's reveal will top it. If the roster is great this time around, it'll create a shitstorm bigger than Cloud. If Classic Spyro and/or Crash are in that roster, it'll surpass Mega Man levels of hype.

Also pretty much anything will top the Corrin reveal anti-hype.

>>378126390
I'd be more interested if Sony just made a smash clone/fighting game with original characters. Maybe have Willam-sama and Drake as guest characters, but to me a lot of the Sony characters aren't that memorable. Those that are memorable aren't that relevant today.

>>378155916
They have some good characters, but what do expect from the company that surpasses Nintendo, Capcom and Konami at the game franchise mistreatment olympics?

>>378127224

>Pay them in shoelaces

kek thats pretty good anon

>>378126390
I love pronouncing it "pissassbrrr"

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>>378126390
YAAASSSSS!!!!
SONY ALWAYS WINS BABY!
PII POO A DILDO!!!1

>>378155916
PlayStation does, Sony doesn't. If Sony was able to tap into that...

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>>378142804
">sony can`t win"
oh poor nintenbro, are you scare that PSASBR 2 will be better than the shitty smash 4?
playstation all stars battler royal 2 will have all of this
-many third party character
-history mode
-a functional online
-will be in all tournaments of fighting games
-will sell like 20 millions
and will make shitty smash look like a kiddy game

remember, sony always win

I'd prefer a 3d adventure RPG game inspired by Project X Zone and Kingdom Hearts.

Half related but did you know that some dude who, i think was the artist for Gravity Rush's art, left SIE?

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>>378156495
You do not belive it yourself

>>378156389
but here's the thing. there are a lot of amazing playstation characters (whatever that means, a lot of these games may have started on playstation but they don't have that strong ONLY ON PS feeling to them anymore) out there, but for some reason they don't really come together in a cohesive way. the reason nintendo can do it is they have like 50 characters that gamers have grown up with and love to some degree and have a similar feel, and then it doesn't feel awkward when they add someone like snake or bayonetta. a game full of snakes and bayonettas doesn't sound that good. as much as it sounds cool to have dante fight kratos, it's a little jarring, at least to me, when the whole cast feels like a fanboys dream and really well thought out.
tldr sony should make a fighting game with an original cast, maybe add nathan and kratos

>>378157176
Another problem is how they're too different.
In one way, it's good because it's as if they have a character for anybody, but in another way, it makes things too weird unless they get a proper art style that makes them "fit" with each other without deviating from themselves.

>>378127916
I preferred it over brawl at the time, but only because I had more PS3 controllers than Wii controllers
Fuck the Toro nerf

>seams

game is trash

>>378156284
they just don't have nintendo's commitment to sustaining old franchises and keeping them fresh and reinventing them for new generations. which is both a good and bad thing, good in the sense that fans never get really sick of a sony franchise. each of them have a life span of at most 2 generations, perhaps with the exception of gran turismo. and bad in the sense that they don't really have the luxury of using nostalgia, not saying that like hurr durr nintenfags only buy their games cuz of nostalgia, but there is a feeling that only nintendo can entice in their fans by announcing a new metroid or zelda game.

>>378157342
yeah this too. the art styles clash so fucking much, and the models just look fugly when placed next to each other. it's probably cuz most of them are relatively new so you can't really change the models so much to fit a certain art style without being unrecognizable.

this was just a really poorly thought out project, almost wtf-tier. yeah smash sells a lot but you have to be dumb to think that you can get a piece of that by a game like this. sony just isn't a company that can pull this off.

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>>378139602
Gitaroo Man
Uncle Death
Patapons

>>378157791
If a sequel gets made, i hope they unironically femenize and sexualize Spike to contradict how ugly he liked in the first one.

>>378126390
Still won't have Crash, Spyro, Lara, or a FF character so why bother and still call it "All-Stars"?

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>>378139602
G E N E
E
N
E

>>378139602
Won't happen:
Alundra (Alundra)
Robbit (Jumping Flash!)
Tomba (Tomba!)
Rudy (Wild Arms 1)

Can happen:
Dart (The Legend of Dragoon)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Abe (Abe's Oddysee)
Rayman (Rayman)

>>378158448
Dart was actually planned DLC but sony made them shitcan it for some reason

>>378158448
>Robbit
Shame considering how his game is designed and what made it special, unless Sony thinks OneyPlays brought it more attention.

>>378140109
Street Fighter isn't a party game, duder.

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>>378158575
>character based entirely around jumping in a game where air superiority completely breaks all semblance of balance

>>378158158
i actually hope they get a good studio and some people who know what they're doing and make an original fighting game.

>>378158301
that actually won't matter imo, people like to think the reason this game was a failure (aside from the fact that it's a shitty game) is because it didn't have "iconic" playstation characters. but really, having crash or link wouldn't have changed anything. the reason that smash works is that these characters work together, most of them are silly cartoony characters, and they all (well 95% of them) come from the same company and share some form of design philosophy with each other. a sony all star game won't ever that by borrowing this character that hasn't been relevant form that company or this character from a 20 year old rpg. having been from games on the same consoles doesn't mean these characters make sense togethe. this is a mistake that i think people who fantasize about a successful sony fighting game fail to realize.

>>378155426
How salty were the loser? I must know.

>>378158886
The game could have had a part on PlayStation's history by being one of the early 3d platformers that happened to be in first person.

>>378158952
Also, literally who characters aren't bad additions when FE and Shulk were probably a bit unpopular until people saw them in Smash, then ended up liking them.

>>378158952
It's a non-canon party-fighter where the sole purpose is to beat up people from different franchises. Personally I don't mind that the characters looked like they did in their own franchises, it beat Melee and Brawl trying to make everyone look the same which made a lot of characters look weird. And yes having the iconic early Playstation characters like crash and Lara would have help a lot.

Maybe the game would have more success as a traditional 2d fighter.

>>378159184
yeah absolutely. and it wasn't like FE was some new franchise, it's basically as old as mario, and shulk was a sign that nintendo gave a shit about xenoblade, which is now obvious since they turned it into a franchise.

>>378159239
let's agree to disagree then. to me it seemed like an unappealing game from the beginning, having lara or crash or whoever wouldn't have changed that. perhaps if they HAD to do it something like capcom vs sony would have been a better idea since it probably would have played better

What about a crossover based around japanese and weeby Sony characters?

>>378159712
>weeby Sony characters
like? kat and ...?

>>378159816
Spike, Toro, Parappa, Dart, Rudy, Robbit, Tomba (i think), Patapon, Vib Ribbon, Loco Roco, maybe more JRPG weeb stuff, Ico.

And how the fuck did you mentioned a girl from a vita game before mentioned something more obvious?

>>378142967
It's because their game wasn't out yet

>>378160090
But what about Donte and Raiden?

>>378159967
parappa, patapon or loco roco don't scream weeb to me.
>JRPG weeb stuff
sony has no memorable jrpg character worth remembering, unless you meant playstation and not sony

>>378127224
This game's still better than knack.

Who in the world ask for a knack 2?

>>378160264
It's called PlayStation all stars, not Sony.
Then maybe remove the all stars part or something.

>>378160185

Devs wanted Dante and Snake. Capcom and Konami wanted to market their new games instead.

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>>378160185
They wanted Dante and Snake
Capcom and Konami said no, here are these guys instead.
Superbot had a shitty budget since the game was originally meant for PSN download so they decided to roll with it since negotiating with third parties was troublesome.
They wanted Lara but Crystal Dynamics wanted the new incarnation to debut in her own game instead.
Big Daddy was literally offered by Ken Levine from the star
Might as well post this as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiaDSmbgyMg
>>378160415
Sony should cross promote their IPs more like Nintendo

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>>378143124
>Unless you are 5
>The most fun in LBP is doing crazy stuff with the engineering tools

I bet you're someone who was glad Zeus got in and Abe was trashed, aren't you?

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>>378143864
>>378159967
>Vib Ribbon
Her name is Vibri and she's the cutest thing Playstation has ever made

>>378160589
I once thought of something like a webshow or comic where PS characters hang out and interesting stuff happens, just to promote these characters and get people to like them more.

>>378160746
I wanted more of those crossover commercials, like the one about a whole bunch of characters in a bar talking about how cool their player is.

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Is it just me or does anyone else feel that characters feel samey?
I know Smash gets flack for having a number of sword wielders but they at least handle differently with varying sword styles and inventory/magic attacks.
Aside from Ratchet and Jak, a number of gun wielders in Playstation All Stars were basically
>Assault Rifle
>Grenade
>Pistol
most of the time
Doesn't really make a character feel unique on the surface

>>378160873
Considering how diverse they are, a lot of stories could be written, but only few would be done right.

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>get better characters, not advertising shit characters (even though I liked Raiden)
>better devs
>just copy Smash
There you go, the game is infinitely better now.
One of the problems with the game was the same problem that No Man's Sky had. Overhyping and making false promises.

As someone who was so excited for the first game that they actually went to the PSforums, the devs were really shit with talking to the fans. No Man's Sky tier of communication.

>>378148935
All of Sony's icons from the PS1 days were third parties in reality
>Crash
>Spyro
>Abe
>Cloud
>Tomba
>Heihachi
>Rayman
>Lara Croft

>>378127916
I genuinely feel bad for you

>>378139602
Honestly they should have just gone full weeb/waifu faggotry.

>Iffy (Neptunia)
>Rorona (Atelier)
>Etna (Disgaea)
>Mirai (Senran Kagura)
>Marie Rose (DOA)
>Alisa (God Eater)

>B-but those characters aren't even iconic!
Nigga we have like over 10 Neptunia games since they franchise started. The Atelier franchise is up there as well. These franchises are a testament to the power of waifufaggotry. Don't fucking try to tell me this wouldn't move units.

>>378160415
you said
>a crossover based around japanese and weeby Sony characters?
i assumed you meant actual sony characters, not games that happen to have released from from 1995 to 2005 on basically the only consoles that mattered (ps1 and ps2) because thats a FUCKING WHOLE LOT of good games and just cuz they were released on the same console doens't mean they make sense in the same game.
>all stars
just the title, doesn't matter. if that every character that you think they should have someone else would say b-but it's not all stars without so and so.
again, people won't accept it, there's literally no scenario that a playstation or sony fighting game would work to the standard that fans expect.

>>378160589
>Sony should cross promote their IPs more like Nintendo
yes, if they wanted something like this to work they should have actually made some franchises starting with ps1 and sustained them all through out their history, keeping the relevant, releasing good in these franchises on ps2, 3, psp, vita. they didn't do that, at the start of each generation they pretty much throw out everything and start fresh. i actually like it, but it means that a game like this would never work with sony characters. and 3rd party characters make even less sense.

They should have hired ASW to this GGxrd style.

>>378126390
are going to get rid of that retarded mechanic where you can only KO someone by using a super move and just make a straight up smash clone yet? Or is it going to be another flop?

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>>378160746
I got you, senpai
There's always that one guy Memoski (I think that's what he's called) on Deviantart who does Playstation All Stars web comics

>>378161021
and while these characters were what we did love in the ps1 era, that doesn't mean a game with all these would work. the reason smash works is cuz the characters are by the same company, not that they're from games released on the same cosole

>>378161145
>Iffy (Neptunia)
>Rorona (Atelier)
>Etna (Disgaea)
>Mirai (Senran Kagura)
>Marie Rose (DOA)
>Alisa (God Eater)
that game would have sold exactly 56,289 copies

>>378161439
That's the issue, because Sony is an Entertainment company, not a games company, they don't have as much focused development, with lots of exclusives being third party or made by second party studios like Naughty Dog or Santa Monica

>>378161364
Memoski doesn't even bother to research about the characters
>Dude Spike and his conspiracy theories about apes haha
And yet all characters are completely different to the point Kat comes from a dream made world where eveyone speaks japafranch gibberish.

>>378126390
Someone please post who the fuck is neptune, I lost it

>>378161505
Because going after the child hood nostalgia market was a much more lucrative choice. Oh wait, it wasn't.

>>378161553
>That's the issue
there's no issue. sony is a great company, they publish amazing games, it's just that fans should give up on a crossover fighting game, it's nothing but a dumb fan idea. i think the dream just exists because they want sony to have an answer to anything nintendo has, but they'll never have the right answer to smash. the legacy just isn't there, and that's not something you can create in 5 or 10 years.
>second party studios like Naughty Dog or Santa Monica
those are first party

>>378161778
its a game where the console war its literally the plot

also the consoles are female gods and neptune its sega console god

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If they try to go after the esports crowd specifically, they're fucked straight away (SFV) so they really need content in this one
They need a better presentation (a unified artstyle and more lively animations should help) along with better gameplay than the last installment.
Get a better roster as well; Crash Bandicoot is fucking needed.
Cloud's probably too hard to get, modern Lara doesn't have the same appeal as classic Lara, and Spyro's in Skylanders purgatory but Crash is still perfectly available.
Sony can't rely on their own IPs alone for this.
Remember, the Ratchet and Clank movie flopped and that's like Sony's third most popular series (with an actual main character so I'm not really counting Gran Turismo)
Go after the nostalgic audience and crowd.
Feed on what nostalgia people have for PS1, PS2 and maybe PS3 if it's really been that long.

>>378161830
that has other reasons as i've already said. basically
a, shit game
b, characters don't make sense together. just cuz they were released on the same console (as if they had a lot of choices. for 10 years you HAD to release your game on playstaion 1 or 2) doesn't mean these characters belong in the same game. smash works cuz the characters are by nintendo, not cuz they're games were released on nes or snes or gcn

>>378161942
R&C movie flopping had to do with the movie being shit in general.
The reboot itself, however, sold to the point it became a hit to the franchise, whether you like it or not.

>>378161838
>There's no issue except that the thing being discussed is a dumb idea
That's the issue though.

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>>378161778
Here ya go
>>378161934
He meant the comic

>>378162018
>characters don't make sense together. just cuz they were released on the same console
>smash works cuz the characters are by nintendo, not cuz they're games were released on nes or snes or gcn
That's some legit autism there.

>>378162170
yeah i guess. but i think this thread is proof enough that people think there's some unknown way to make a game like this, there really isn't. people should move on.

>>378162389
>That's some legit autism there.
nope. it's the actual reason the game didn't work and another game like this wouldn't work. keep doing you tho sweetie

At this point, smaller crossovers would have been better like an actual platformer about Sly, Jak and Ratchet or rhythm based fun with Parappa, Vibri, Patapon and Loco Roco stuff.
And maybe WipeOut with Twisted Metal or Spikat

>>378162485
in your personal opinion

>>378126390
Turn it into a general sony crossover game instead of a smash clone.
But it would probably be better to just leave it dead since sony would be retarded enought to make it an ASSFAGGOTS or some other e-sports meme clone instead of just doing the right thing.

>>378160732
Best sony girl

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Another problem Sony has is a lack of secondary characters who can fill an entire move roster (unlike Nintendo who has loads of those characters who are even pretty iconic themselves like Bowser, Peach, Ganondorf, all those various Pokemon, etc) so as a result it's a struggle to make a first party roster that rivals that of Smash (minus clones on both sides).
Even Nathan Drake struggled filling a complete roster that fits him since one of his attacks is lifted from a crumbling floor.
Does Sony have good secondary characters?
Yes
Could they fill out a whole roster of attacks (if we're still keeping the old style)?
Probably not
Would they be worth adding to increase hype?
It depends; no one really got excited for Zeus to be honest despite being the main villain of the series.
Now this is probably off topic but I think this is a reason why Resistance didn't get a character.
Nathan Hale has no personality/design appeal/interesting and charismatic animations while the actual face of the series,The Chimeran Soldier, are a mere mook with no personality as well.

>>378162721
I wouldn't mind some RPG platformer taking notes from KH and Project X Zone, as long as the combat isn't shit and the writing isn't Borderlands tier (not that this has anything to do with PXZ, just saying this because it could happen)

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>tfw the only time i went to /vg/ was for PASBR general

>>378163150
>The OC some people made
>Some dude named Maverick who did lewds

>>378162485
Your reasoning why they don't work on the same game is completely arbitrary. You're saying a medieval swordsman and a space marine wouldn't work for some because they made by third part companies. But a medieval swordsman and a space marine would be totally fine in a Nintendo game because they're both owned by Nintendo? You have legit fucking autism if you honestly believe this line of reasoning.

>>378126390
>Apologize
I'm so terribly sorry that one of the first fighting games of all time is going to have a sequel.

>>378162907
For Sly they could get Carmelita and Murray
GR gives us Raven
Then the other 3 Ape Escape kids
Then either Qwark or Nerfarious
Then Lammy

Anyone else?

>>378163268
>First
Weird, I typed worst. Good god what an awful game Sony All Stars was. I've never played a worse fighter.

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>>378162907
Continuing off from that, I just remembered something.
This is why Radec became playable, the Helghan were the face of Killzone and Superbot knew that.
Even though he wasn't playable, showed up only a few times, died in his only game, and doesn't even wiled 90 percent of the guns he uses in All-Stars, Radec was chosen instead of Sev because of that gas mask alone.
Radec himself isn't really iconic but he was the closest thing to a Helghan who was wearing the mask, had significance, and wasn't a generic grunt they could find

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>>378163292
Despite not really being iconic, the Twisted Metal cast do have personality and design appeal for the most part but you'd have to be creative to give each of them a unique moveset (maybe something involving the gimmicks of their vehicles)

>>378163641
I guess it's because the protags of both KZ and Resistence where just regular soldier dudes.
Meanwhile, Ape Escape's monkeys are iconic, but people don't mind Spike (in fact, some fans could prefer him over the apes and think focusing too much on the "Ape" part of AE damaged the series a bit) because he has actual design (even if it's a generic anime kid), comes fron a game that mattered to PS history and could fit as the game's "kid" character, who also saves the world and has wacky gadgets or something.

>>378163810
Axel was interesting because it was a muscular man on literal wheels, and if they wanted to put a black character in the game, it could have been him instead of the space cowboy that nobody cares.

>>378163207
it's more complex than that. you agree that a game like this won't work just with sony characters right? sony did because they used any third party character that they could get their hands on, even ones from unreleased games and pretty much every fan complained about the lack of more third part characters like lara, crash, link, etc. smash didn't work just because it had some randon characters fight each other. at the time of the first game it actually was like a wet dreams for nintendo fans and kids to have mario and samus and link and pikachu fight each other, lets put aside the fact that the game unlike psasbr was actually good. these characters were all made by nintendo, they evoked the same kind of emotions for these kids. and then it was taken so much further with melee. really why would a sony game work in this context when the least iconic characters in the roster that fans dream of are made by sony themselves? what stops another company from bringing together these characters and make a multi platform game?
what you fail to realize imo is that just throwing a bunch of characters together never works. if it did, it would have been done more successfully many times before. there has to be something that ties these characters together, at least something more than the fact that they were released on games that happened to have released in a time were everything released on the playstation.
but yeah, sure, autism

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>>378164131
Sucks that the game everyone prefers, Warhawk, lacks a protagonist/face while the one that nobody cared for ,Starhawk, has one and the series is screwed.
Shame, at least Emmett Graves had a neat moveset gimmick

>>378164339
>that they were released on games that happened to have released in a time were everything released on the playstation
this sounds weird but you know what i mean

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Here's a newcomer.
Generic assault rifle firing and grenade throwing man #57.

>>378164682
Stop joking, you know this can be true.

>>378164737
I wasn't joking

>>378164785
>i wasn't joking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk
oh no

>>378139602
Abe
Crash
Spyro
Kazuma Kiryu (Yakuza)
Joker (Persona 5)

>>378163292
Could Carmelita carry a whole moveset?
I thought all she had was a blaster?

>>378165135
Maybe we need to wait on whether or not she could get her own spin off

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>>378158547
Money and time
His rival was going to be Abe IIRC
>>378165208
>could get her own spin off
What makes you say that?

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>>378126410
wait a minute OP
I search for a trademark extension and I only found this.
theres no extension of the PSASBR trademark
sorry everyone but it seems OP lied to all of us
OP is a Faggot

>>378165305
Don't furries usually pay a lot of money for things they like?

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Make orphan of kos a playable character and I'll buy a sequel day 1

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>>378165356
NOOOOOOOOOOO
This is not true
Delet this NOW

Sony Smash 2 is only worth being made if Pixiv users get inspiration to make doujins of Spikat /ss/

>>378145384
He's not wrong though, same with Donte mains
Isaac main here

>>378159967
Team ICO refused to let their characters in

>>378167669
In some way, i can see why

>>378168064
I feel the same way; of all their IPs, maybe Wander would have been the one who would have worked the best, but even then i can't think of a deep, varied moveset for him.

The roster should just cater to PS1/2 nostalgia with a little weeb pandering and a few newer exclusives. Gameplay should just be 1:1 Smash bros.

>DMC1/3 Dante
>Vergil
>Maximo
>Snake
>Crash Bandicoot
>Dragon's Crown rep
>Wirriam-sama
>Etna
>Castlevania rep
>Bloodborne Hunter
>Squeenix Triple Threat: Sora, Noctis, and Toobie
>Okami Amaterasu
>Asura
>Hundred Knight
Seem fair?

>>378168402
Yeah, but you know what SotC would make? A great stage.
So would Katamari, for that matter. The stage would be a giant, constantly rolling ball. The further on the match goes, you go from being really tiny, to rolling around in space and dodging stars.

>>378126390
Let's hope they treat it like a real project this time. A game featuring notable characters from PlayStation shouldn't be considered a small side project

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>>378164004
I have a feeling they went with the current cover over this because marketing weren't sure what characters would attract the most attention so they just decided to put almost everyone

>>378169627
So fucking awful, if the sequel happens, they might as well make the edgy folks look cartoonish or even animeish.

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>>378168725
We could've gotten a Gravity Rush/Journey stage

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Imagine a dating game about Sony characters

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>>378169749
There were original ideas for a unified style but that came with different proportions

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>>378169627
Look at Kratos..he looks like an enormous faggot

PS4 Kratos looks perfect.

>>378169962
Why would they even drop it?

>>378137579
May I have a reliable source on this? No Kotaku or Twitter shits please.

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>>378169986

Agreed. Old Kratos looked like a douchey dickhead.

New Kratos looks like a huggable asshole.

>>378139602
>Klonoa
>Morgana or Teddie
>Lammy
>Neptune
>Joel
>Knack
>Noctis
>Crash
>Spyro
>Majima
>Beck from Mighty No.9

I also want Xander Mobus as the announcer.

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>>378170127
Proportions (keep in mind this was originally a PSN game)
Looking at the bottom, they must've really wanted to have each character stick out through shape alone kinda like how the TF2 cast were designed with distinction in mind

>>378170375
They made the heads look bigger, which looked weird on Sly..
Maybe they could have brought some cel shadde/cartoony style where some characters look like they came from a comic or a G.I.Joe type of cartoon, while others could even look like something a bit animu.