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how will class balance look once 4.0 drops

whats the official new meta
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WAR > PLD >>> DRK
SCH > WHM > AST
NIN > DRG > BLM >> SAM > MCH >>> RDM > SMN > BRD >>>> MNK > SMN
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>>378125050
>WHM
>Greater than anything
Nice joke
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>>378125050
> nin>


nice meme
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>>378125904
What's wrong with WHM?
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You already have a containment thread. Don't infest /v/ with this shit.
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>>378126412
>waaaaaahhh stop talking about video games my 2b fart thread got knocked off
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>>378126650
>2b fart thread
Androids can't fart, anon.
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>>378127039
yea well tell that to pixiv
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>>378126280
The devs have said its going to remain the "pure healer" class, and they've also said they want to maintain raid content at a similar level of difficulty as creator- where you don't need that much pure healing to justify bringing a white mage since overhealing gives 0 returns over utility.
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>>378126808
>implying

blm master race

now, start stacking sks, youll need it for those new chakra plantations
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hope my PLD lala won't be completely useless in Stormblood
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>>378130847
a potato can never truely be useless
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>>378131189
>a potato can never truely be useful
FTFY
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>>378130847
why do i want to fugg a lalafell
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>>378131962
lala is not for fugging, is for patting
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>>378128648
>nin stacking SkS

it's funny how in 1 day something unnessesary becomes optimal for a job, and only them at that.
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Do people ever try to play together in these threads?

I always see anons in MH threads set up rooms to play with each others but it almost never happens in FFXIV threads even with the cross-server PF.
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>>378131962
Because you could just pick her up and do what you need to do. The hand placement when eating out a Lala would be like eating a watermelon.
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>>378132396
Lewd af 2bh, but i doubt a smirk like that would oppose
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>>378131375
You can make food out of potatoes.
Or alcohol.
Sure, they may not help you in defeating dragons or ala mhigan fucking shits, but they're still useful.
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I'm hoping PLD will get something interesting in 4.0, compared to WAR and DRK it feels pretty braindead to play.
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inb4 BDO shill
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>>378132275
>SkS is useful for NIN because it'll allow them to build more Forbidden Chakra!
I'm honestly thankful for the MNK changes, it really shows the retards in these threads.
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>>378132925
>making the more potent, BIGGER deeps job even stronger as fast as possible is retarded

?
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>>378133165
>completely gimping one job so one job can perform better increases party dps
lmao
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>>378133409
Well, yes obviously, since you offer no utility except trick attack now. Do your trick then do as much weak shit as you can, asap, to temper the monks power and nothing else. No need 2 be salty little senju boi. That's the roll of the dice according to master yoshi
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>tfw the MNK in our raid group told me I can no longer play with them as NIN unless I have 1200 SKS
S-STOP!
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>>378133764
I don't even play NIN, I just laugh at all you MNK fags who let an ultimately small addition to your kit go completely to your heads because you've been bottom of the barrel for an entire expansion.
MNK won't magically do double the dps because they gain chakra from other players.
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Guys I'm super worried, I main MCH but their 4.0 looks completely ass backwards to how they work currently.

Should I grind for the kickass BRD anima or stick to my guns?
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>>378125937
No meme but I think the Nin job was doing well enough. It was fun in any case. Just hoping SB doesn't change ninjas that much.

I'm just hoping Oboro plays a major role here considering were liberating his home.
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>>378132321
/xivg/ is a lesson in not playing XIV with 4chan.
But also I imagine people might be too spread out through different servers and can't be bothered to PF. PUGs are more or less fine so there's not really a need for it. I would be interested in a linkshell, but there doesn't seem to be one in my server.
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>>378134481
He was already shown in the MSQ in the Revolutions video.
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>>378134132
>i dont even play nin

Yea i wouldnt anymore either :^)
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>>378134481
Obviously a meme if you put it #1 in the meta
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>>378124092
Black Desert is on steam, it's $5.00 and has some of the best housing in an mmo ever made. Also horse fucking and banging nude mods, how the FUCK can you say no to all that for $5???

No sub, just pay $5.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/582660

Amazeballs.
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>>378128053
>maintain raid content at the same difficulty as Creator

Only for the first raid tier, it's gonna scale upwards from there
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DRK/WAR/SCH/AST/SAM/DRG/BRD/RED
Not a chance they will be able to fix PLD
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When are they going to run out of fucking Type-shit hair to add to the game?
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>>378136698
This is the last one.
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>>378136430
Stop using my bless screenshots to shill or I'll file a DMCA claim with hiroshima.
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>>378136653
>Magic blocking
>Another huge cooldown for MT
>Sheltron even more on demand
>2nd burst window and their own version of fell cleave
>Finally at least one new AoE

They might not be in the world first comps, but they will no longer be an issue for 99% of regular statics in all fights.
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>>378124092

PLD/WAR/MNK/DRG/RDM/MCH/AST/SCH

That's prog meta.
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>>378132863
>>378136430

And there it is
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>>378136430
nice try shill
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>>378124092
The new official meta is

Raw DPS for Disciples of War/Magic:
MNK > SAM > DRG > MCH > PGL > BLM > SMN > LNC > RDM > NIN > ROG > BRD > ARC > WAR > DRK > PLD > ACN > SCH > THM > AST > GLA > MRD > WHM > CNJ


This is the official 4.0 parse, screenshot this post.
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>>378136871
>>378132863
>implying these threads are FFXIV shill threads
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>>378136851
Switch out RDM for SAM.
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>tfw 4/9 books done
Who the fuck thought tying content into rare fates would be a good idea
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>>378136940
why the fuck are you bloating it with the base classes
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post c@s
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>>378136993
I hated the dungeons the most.
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>>378136993
OMG you have to WAIT to get something done in an MMO?! There's no immediate pat on the back?! WTF?!
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>>378136927
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>>378125050
>source: anon's ass
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>>378137052
nah
post knife ears instead
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>>378136980

Not at all. Caster for Apoc and to give mana away to Healers. Range for their Physical Apoc.

RDM will be switched out for triple melee comp for Speedkills.
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>>378137048
Its Noroi. Notice how PGL is high up on the chart.
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>>378132863
>shilling in shill thread
We are reaching levels of shilling no man should ever see.
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>>378137048
base classes deal more damage than some other jobs, so they deserve a spot on the dps chart
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>People think they know anything about changes already trying to minmax
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>>378137090
I don't mind waiting but the fact that I can't do anything else than wait at the same location because I might miss something that may or may not spawn sucks.
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>>378136430
>>378136759
>Bless Screnshots
>shilling for BDO.
What the fuck Fine, here's your YOU, you cockmongler.
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>catch x to catch x to catch x to catch x to catch your fish
What the fuck.
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>end of the day
>switch to tank and queue for random obscure things in the duty finder
>let the timer run out until i reach the df lockout
>repeat this each day

LOCK ME UP
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>>378136759
>>378136871
>>378136927
>>378137414
Why the fuck do you keep feeding him?
Just ignore it for fuck's sake.
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>>378137475
kill yourself
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>>378128053

Whm is going to be an even stronger healer, which means there will be plenty of time to DPS, which is going to make WHM the superior DPS healer with the removal of acc and cleric stance nerfing heals.
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>>378137475
You need to accept the last one and leave just before the pull
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>>378137667
No amount of personal DPS gain can top a group wide damage buff with high upkeep. I mean we could see some weird ass WHM/Noct AST comps but I doubt it.
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>>378137475
>Not joining them leaving so they're forced to queue for in progress, which almost nobody does
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>>378137780

This is the same scaremongering everyone said before 3.0 but SCH/WHM still reigned supreme. The SCH/WHM combo is going to become even better with the new abilities.
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>>378137606
You're taking this too seriously.
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>>378136757
There's two more still
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>>378137606

>>378137615
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>>378137869
Thats because AST was garbage until 3.4 when balance got buffed. This is statistics, not emotions. Yoshi said he was fine with where balance card was. There is NOTHING the other two could bring that tops balance card, and it appears they're making card even more usable.
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>>378137902
The protags?
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>>378137996
Let's also not forget they buffed diurnal and that nocturnal also got a buff.

AST will become the new must have healer and SCH and WHM will fight for the scraps.
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>>378137996
I find it more likely that WHM could replace SCH because if their flower cooldowns provide burst mitigation equal or better to SCH then they can perform the same role as needed, but would require help from someone else for MP unlike SCH.
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>wanna get the title big bad wolf
>look at the queue time
>over 30 minutes
>need to do that 5k times
Cool.
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>>378132801
It's easy to guess, you'll have to be a bit more careful using sheltron so you have it for big hits, requiecast increases damage a 20% for 12 seconds if your mp is+80% when you use it, so after it you'll most likely want to spam holy spirit which is a 2 second cast for 430 potency (magic damage), it won't be super complex but it will definitely be better than it is now.
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>>378137894
BUNNY
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What the fucking hell. How come there are no legit leaks from the media tour? Are those that attended such little bitches with no balls that only know how to suck yoshida's dick?
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>>378138506
>WHM could replace Deployment machine
No way in hell
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>>378138603
Then they can have a window where they cycle in FoF goring blade and RA since its on the same combo line to get the MP back. Aggro generation might be an issue so they would have to take that new tank shadewalker, or stick to shield oath more. Feels like Yoshi is really hampering stance dancing lately.
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>>378125050
>War is better than Paladin

>Keep thinking back to the Garo Armor sets so this means that Barago/Kiba is stronger than Garo

shits not right senpai
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>>378138821
Wel dont know how much the bubbles they will get on cooldown are.
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>>378138785
I don't blame them, considering 4chan is a fucking cesspool of faggotry, I wouldn't give you any info either.
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>>378138785
they were redditors, theyre naturally spineless bitches
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>>378138821
It's not just Deployment, Indom and Rouse+Whispering Dawn are frankly too valuable too.

They're gonna need to do a serious shake up for SCH to lose out. It has the most 'complete' feeling toolkit amongst all healers.
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>>378138785
Those that attended are media and thus have a vested financial interest in holding back until they can reveal the info themselves for maximum clickbait shekels.
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>>378138821
>Relevant
>When Nocturnal got buffed and the Faerie nerfed

All the faerie skills spend the bar resource now.
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>>378138785
Leakfag here.

i fuked u're mom yesterday_________________

That's all I can say for now.
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>>378139198
>People pretending they know how things work before its even out because they saw a 10 second clip
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>>378139357
>only saw a 10 second clip

:^) just wait until the embargo ends next week
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>>378139198
>All the faerie skills spend the bar resource now
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>>378138567
>Big Bad Wolf
Is that the translation in a language not English or something?
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>>378139513
I dont have an investment in this either way. I have all three healers leveled and will play whatever works. Its silly to 'main' only one and insist upon it.
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>>378139565
>>378139513
That's all I'm saying.
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>>378139565
>MOOT!
Figuratively hew
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>>378139604
The title is called
>Großer bößer Wolf
in German, so no clue if the translation is something completely different in English.
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>>378139659
Are you sure you can't make up any more bullshit?
You're really selling yourself short, I'm sure you're more creative than that.
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>>378139764
That would be implying I'm making up things. It's funny to see you bicker though.
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>Not screenshotting all leaked shit so you can make a collage of the bullshit ones and the real ones shown in a week
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>>378125050

>NIN
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>>378139872
You literally are making things up because we simply don't know what the fairy gauges is actually for.
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Nexus Gay Buldge is so good-looking, fuck.
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Are you ready for stormblood, bros?
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>daily level 60 queue
>nin and bard in my party
>nin doesn't use goad when I'm at less than half TP because war
>bard doesn't use tp song
>ask
>nothing
>AST is trying their best to balance healing, doing DPS, and giving me each TP regen card, but its not enough because i'm War

am I in the wrong
I know i'm bad with managing my TP but god dammit I'm trying
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$10 says nero is gonna fuck us
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Someone at the tour recorded the SAM unlock quest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZaKWYdLPtM
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>>378140637
What the heck!
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>>378140545
Do you even use Equilibrium in Deliverance?
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>>378140579
Nah, he's a rogue with a heart of gold.
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>>378140637
>XIV logo
>XIV race
>How to unlock SAMURAI Final Fantasy XI

What.
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>>378140545
If the BRD is playing Swiftsong between pulls instead of Army's is just exasperates the issue. I'd never expect them to actually use it during a pull through since it reduces their DPS by 10%.

Mind you, I don't expect DF BRDs to sing shit since they're almost universally garbage.
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>>378140579
I really hope Nero joins our party in Stormblood.
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>>378140851
Nope, Omega raid NPC.

Notice how you don't see Nero AT ALL in Revolution music video.
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>>378140579
It's just missing "My kettle is better".
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>>378140438
>We

Jumping to conclusions there
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>>378141109
So spill the beans then if you're so smart and in the know.
>muh embargo
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>>378140524
what's wrong with DRK?
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>>378140793
Yes, I do.
I will admit I often forget but I did use it when I could then

>>378140831
But why would you play bard if you aren't going to buff your teammates?
He never used mage's ballad when healer was under 50% either
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>>378140579
>nero is gonna fuck us
I wish
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>>378141431
They're too edgy.
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Is there any reason I shouldn't re-sub right now? When do they run the free play time events?
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>>378124092
Just started playing A Realm Reborn, started as Gladiator and hit level 25 so far. Enjoying it a lot, I hope the endgame is good though.
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>>378141485

>50%

I don't even think about Ballad until they're at 20, unless they have to rez someone
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>70% of live letter was yoship on blm fixing his UI
>Media embargo

Its so he could sell the info to famistu for their latest magazine
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>>378137996
tbhwys AST was fine after 3.2, it had a lower participation rate than WHM because most people didn't bother going back and relearning it after how bad it was in 3.0, the card buffs in 3.4 were absurdly OP and most likely only done to force the playerbase to revisit AST so that the job wouldn't be seen as a major failure of Heavensward.
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>>378141559
ah thought they got shafted or something
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>>378141485
Most of the people playing Bard want to be cool deadshot archers.
Most of the people not playing Bard don't want their Bards to be cool deadshot archers.
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>>378141630
End game is where things get really good. But if you enjoy the leveling process too then that's even better.
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>>378141431
What isn't?
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>>378141742
Their design
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>>378140579
>>378140970
>new relic Legendary Kettle quest
>staring Nero
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>>378136653
>RED
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>>378142060
Reader, it's a new Arcanist job.
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>>378142148
Oh my bad
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>>378142148
But that would be RDR
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>fate that fucked me over multiple times and was always up in mor dhona while I was questing pre 50 is nowhere to be seen now that I need it
How is this even possible? They can't have so sophisticated mechanics that they check every players active quests and make them pop at the most inconvenient times.
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>>378142248
RDRDRDR this job was made for me
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>>378142248
>wanting to get sued by R*
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How do I git guder at SCH? I never know when to use the bubble, or how to maximize my fairy's usefulness
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>>378142415
>I never know when to use the bubble
Anticipate big hits, knowing the fights is useful for this.
>how to maximize my fairy's usefulness
Put it on Obey, keybind the abilities/put the fairy abilities on your hotbar
Read the tooltips and then use your head on when the skills apply the best.
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>>378142415
>Lustrate
>Lustrate
>Lustrate

That's it.
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Why do the rocks in this game look like such fucking hot garbage when everything else is more or less fine?
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>>378142415

Are you retarded? real question because any human can play SCH
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>>378142587
Ps3 limitations
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Not got a class to 60 yet, faster to do quests or farm POTD 51-60?
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>>378142415
Selene is shit since HW so you'll use Eos in most relevant content. Have Eos on Sic most of the time. I only use Selene on Obey since she has a nice party-wide dispel and a slight DPS buff.

Alternate between adlo and physic when normally topping a tank in dungeons. In raids/primals use Lustrate abundently. Don't forget to use Eye for and Eye on your tank and Virus also.
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>>378142825
>Have Eos on Sic most of the time
Terrible advice.
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>>378142627
Is Stormblood fixing this shit? I just don't get why so many Heavensward zones look this bad when the base game really only looked like shit in Limsa Lominsa.
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>>378142674
Depends on your job
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>>378142887
maybe
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>>378142825
>Have Eos on Sic most of the time
Never give anyone advice on SCH ever again.
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>>378142893
WAR
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>>378142674
You could just farm potd but you'd be fucking retarded if you did since you need to do the main scenario to unlock shit.
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>>378142887
I was just memeing but yeah I agree with you. I don't know why rocks in particular look like absolute crap.
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>>378142884
>>378142950

Except in the latest Savage or primals, you can pretty much have her on Sic the whole time.

You don't need her on Obey in fucking Dun Scaith or dungeons.
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>>378142587
Because on the bigger ones it's really obvious that they're using the same texture for 90% of it.
The smaller ones aren't nearly as bad.
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>>378142674

Just do MSQ.

All the best ways to level is roughly the same in speed, I think doing side quests are the slowest though but unlocks better gear for you.

PoTD is okay if you're also trying to farm for your ilvl 260 (or was it 240 I don't remember) weapon.
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How does materia work in this game? I can't just socket it like a gem what do i need to do? Is there an NPC i have to talk to? And what level materia should i socket at end game, right now i have +7 stat ones you get from PotD, are there better ones i should be using?
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>>378143012
Yeah that's what's stopping me from doing it right now but I feel like doing side quests at all is very time inefficient but would gradually put me behind the level curve.
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>>378143245
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Materia
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>>378142953
MSQ + Dungeons
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>>378143265
Do PotD if you encounter a level gap to your next MSQ, otherwise do the MSQ and side quests.
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There won't be any raids/extreme stuff in 4.0 so there won't be a meta
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>>378143423
>There won't be any raids/extreme stuff in 4.0
>2 primal trials confirmed at launch
>both an 8 man raid and a 24 man raid confirmed
>Yoshi has talked about a third difficulty level above Savage
>There won't be any raids/extreme stuff in 4.0
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>>378143558
>responding to blatant shitposting
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>>378143671
Half these threads are shitposting.
Complaining about shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>378142887
low resolution textures and polygons for rock geometry. don't expect them to fix old zones unless they go back to rework them ala WoW cataclysm style.
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>>378125050
>SMN is first and last
So what is the truth?
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>>378144074
>SMN is first and last
>first
NIN is first.
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>>378140579
I wish he'd fuck me.
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>>378144359
What about me anon
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>>378144185
I'm phoneposting so the first SMN until the 2nd SMN came as its own separate line sry
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>>378144518
Remember to report posts like this
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>>378144594
Kill yourself and fuck off back to /vg/ you faggot.
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>>378140524
We don't know because the live letter told us nothing beyond what we can assume from the action trailer. People are just memeing.
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>>378144594
>male Au Ra
The more the merrier!
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>>378144518
Live and let live anon
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>>378144594
>actually taking a screenshot with Gauss Barrel on
Kill yourself.
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>>378142825
Why the fuck would you suggest using Lustrate abundantly while completely failing to mention that Indom is literally OP. A good SCH can handle the lion's share of AoE healing in a lot of content.

>Eos on Sic
Just stop.
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>>378144662
>>378144751

Why are so jealous of my beauty
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>>378140831
Swiftsong should just become a passive group buff to movement speed when out of combat, but that would be too convenient so we cant have that.
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>>378144940
You look like a banana popsicle
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>>378145138
And you want to suck it
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>>378144940
It's just a festering hatred for xivg and avatarfagging that happens here
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What're the best chestpieces on MNK for ZR?
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>>378140970
this
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>>378145102
They kind of will in 4.0
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I always get pvp groups that get totally rekt, what gives?
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>>378145382
Stop playing pvp
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>>378144594
>no Revolver of the Wanderer
>gauss barrel active
Do you even know how to MCH?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elo2nRER7Fw
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>>378145206
true
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>>378145425
But muh mount.
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>>378124092
When does it update?
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>>378145382
Stop using Freelancer. Freelancer just groups all the "Im running pvp for tomes" shitters together.
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>>378145473
Are there any other two barreled guns than Ferdinand?
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>>378143558
Besides the 2 (hard) trials, that's stuff that will be added in 4.1 onward, which will continue to balance the jobs
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>>378145562
But I'm playing the feast. 8 vs 8 randoms. The other group is random as well.
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>>378145545
June 20
Early access is in the 16th
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How much accuracy should i be aiming for? What's the cap?
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>>378145589
Bismark gun I think
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>>378145752
592 for casters
699 for everything else
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>>378145623
>8v8 Feast
There's your problem. There's always one group with retards not changing to healer and it's always yours.
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>>378145589
The Bismark gun has 2 barrels.
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>>378131962
Because we're Hydaelyn's chosen people, anon. It comes as no surprise that a wholesome female Lalafell arouses you like no other :^)

By the way, these lovely ladies will be your maids tonight. Say something nice to them, /v/.
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>>378145838
Any two barreled guns that don't look retarded?
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>>378145752
Don't bother it's going away soon anyway
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>>378145752
Non. ACC will be changed into a different working stat in 4.0.
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>>378145870
8v8 Feast doesn't allow preforms besides joining the queue as a pair.

If you want to carry that shit hard though you go AST+DPS and feed them hard.
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>>378145870
Yeah but that's weird. It's literally always mine. And if I get a group that actually gets ahead they get overeager and stop thinking all together.
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>>378145905
I want to FUCK those potates
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>>378145905
I wouldn't even touch those things.
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>>378145905
Day of the fryer can't come soon enough.
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>>378137203
No they don't
And now that cross class skills are gone, they should never be mentioned ever again
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>>378146070
I hope you have deep pockets, sir.

>>378146205
>>378146281
Racists...
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>>378145990
I'd tell you to do 4x4 solo queue to avoid this, but you might end up in several fights against the same cheap asshole who wrecks everyone. Then you get him in yours for a few matches where he suddenly sucks ass because he only was good thanks to his previous healer(s).

And if you play ranged, you're the most likely target to get mowed down by tank, melee and ranged together.
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>>378146432
>I hope you have deep pockets, sir.

I have a couple of sacks I can stick those cute potatoes in
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>>378145841
>>378145963
>>378145970
I want to raid before SB hits, and 700 seems like a lot. I'm at 456 with full PvP 235 gear right now i don't think melding materia will matter at this point. How the fuck do you achieve 700? Are there enchantments like WoW in this game? What am i missing?
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>>378146543
>full PvP 235 gear
There's your problem.

Those crap don't give accuracy.
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>yfwn highlander or au ra bf
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>shitloads of new au ra being introduced and the only raen is still yugiri
Does anyone give a shit about japanese lizards?
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>>378146865
Only mentally ill trannies care about au ras
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>>378146865
The purity of raens must be preserved.
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>>378146728
Bad feel but I like Midlanders more than Highlanders
Highlander faces are too ugly
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>>378146947
Nobody asked you, autismo.
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>>378124092
Literally all the jobs have been homogenized and dumbed down to the point where the meta will likely never be as rigid as it was in HW, but I could easily see a good comp being:

PLD/DRK/AST/SCH/SAM/DRG/RDM/BRD

WAR loses most of it's utility since both SAM and NIN now have slashing in their standard rotations, and they can't do their big openers anymore so having them pull isn't important now, so if you have either SAM or NIN in your party then WAR is made redundant. DRG is also on the chopping block because I can almost guarantee you that BRD and MCH are getting piercing debuffs, so unless you REALLY need Battle Litany than you can easily swap this out too. BRD is probably not going anywhere as long as it has a monopoly on magic resistance, and RDM is just an easy substitute for MCH so those 2 will be interchangeable.

This is really only focused on progression, but farming could possibly see the DPS meta being MCH/RDM/BRD/DRG, then you bring back warrior and probably keep DRK AST SCH.
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>>378145484
This faggot is on my server, but he never fucking plays the game
He made one of the largest FCs in the server, but nobody ever talks to each other in it, and the leader is NEVER online. Its a fucking plague on the server desu

Plus, he clicks for every fucking skill on his hotbar. He spends three GCDs using one oGCD skill in between his GCDs.
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>>378146865
Even if lizard people as a concept were bland, at least Mongol/Central Asian ones are way more interesting than the weeb ones.

http://ojiyaff.tumblr.com/tagged/51scales
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>>378147085
t. tranny
Don't you have a general on /vg/ to shit up?
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Who are going to be the 5.0 primals aside from Yojimbo?
We already have the basic summons and I honestly can't think of anyone else.
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>>378147481
Homogenization being bad aside
>the meta will likely never be as rigid as it was in HW
there's nothing wrong with a flexible meta/all classes/jobs being viable in endgame.
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>>378146947
I actually know a tranny and *she* plays an Au Ra

Weird
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>>378147674
Lakshmi, Susanoo and Shinryu
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>>378147674
Susanoo and Lakshmi
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>>378147557
You're right but using weeb to refer to anything in a Jap game makes me want to strangle you.
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>>378147725
While this is 100% true, there will always end up being one composition that is better (even if only very slightly) than all others. Its just the nature of optimization. Sometime NEEDS to end up on top
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>>378147674
>aside from Yojimbo
Dollars to donuts Yojimbo is in 4.0.
>>378147803
>>378147809
5.0 is the next expansion.
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>>378146947
Can confirm, am tranny, play au ra, care about
Xaela lore.
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>>378147658
>Calls au ra players mentally ill trannies
>Goes on a mentally ill shitposting frenzy every time anyone even mentions a dragon
Hmm
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>>378147674
Wasn't Yojimbo just shoehorned into the Sasano fight?
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Leakers,

What's the difference between using Dark Arts and not using it on that single target vertical spin attack?

I have money riding on this
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>>378147767
>I actually know a tranny
Yeah I bet you do, faggot.
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>>378147887
>>Goes on a mentally ill shitposting frenzy every time anyone even mentions a dragon
What?
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I want to fuck an Au Ra!
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>>378147674
Doomtrain and Magus sisters.
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>>378147030
Midlanders are about as ugly with terrible bodies and facial hair tho.
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>>378147725
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a flexible meta, I'm just stating that any job combination being retardedly OP is probably gone, and while there will be a meta that makes itself known as the best, it likely won't be by much to the point where EVERYONE will be using it.

But I think people are getting distracted by the combat revamp and everything that comes along with it to notice how simplified the combat is likely to become, which I guess is a good thing for people to not have to suffer full retard DF dps, but a bad thing if you like experimenting with optimizing your jobs and DPS rotations.
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>>378147959
I mean, this game seems to be littered with them

Them and fags
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>>378147767
I only know of tranny female cats desu. Lizards always seem to thirsty ERP sluts.
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>>378124092
when will we bards finally be useful
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>>378148074
tomorrow
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>>378147674
When Return to Ivalice arrives we might see a bunch of the FF 12 summons aside from Cu cuchulain who we fought already.
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>>378147834
There's a difference. There's Japanese, and then there's "thousand time folded magical katana and running with arms trailing behind you ninja style" Japanese.

Basically, whether it's a tasteful fascimile of a real world culture, or a big cheezy hot mess.
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>>378134193
MCH was basically reworked. They lost buffs, they lost ammo, and they're likely not going to focus around wildfire as much as before.
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>>378146865
>Au Ra expansion
>Assume they'll fix them up to make them look less shit
>They look even worse

Wow 10/10 job Yoshi it must have taken months of effort to make these things look as hilariously awful as they do.
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>>378147767
Why do you hang out with people that are mentally ill, anon? Might as well hang out with schizos while you're at it.
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>>378148176
They didn't lose ammo.
Ammo just isn't used for weaponskills anymore.
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>Tranny joins the static
>Is tolerable for 1 month
>Now does nothing but talk about tranny shit

This is why everyone hates you fucking weirdos.
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>>378147861
Doomtrain (Hildebrand), Zodiark, Anima. Will be a very grim themed expansion as we push into Garlean territory and the moon. You'll fight Zodiark there, the current emperor will summon Anima to fight you before him, and Doomtrain will be a Hildebrand side quest where you have to fight your way onto the train, killing mobs up to the conductor boss fight who is possessed by the train, and then it gets suplexed.
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>>378148207
>Why do you hang out with people that are mentally ill
A man on 4chan said this.
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>>378147861
I assumed it was a typo since you said Yojimbo and he's in 4.0
They'll just find a mythological being to make a primal or whatever
>>378148031
Rude. Midlanders are CUTE and have nice bodies
Apply yourself
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Should i get MCH or BRD to 60 for SB?
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>>378148037
My question is why the fuck they bothered to make that comment about how they expected that "the gap between good and excellent players might increase" even as the gap between bad players and average/good players decreased. Because it really seems like they're doing more to get rid of top-end optimization than they are to make baseline rotations easier.
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>>378148374
depends, do you like faggot flute or flamethrowers?
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>>378148293
>They make everything about themselves
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>>378148356
If you are into flabby preteens, sure.

If only WoL looked anything like his hot CGI version but he looks just as flabby as always.
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>>378148384

You got it the wrong way round.

They're closing the gap between bad and good players, whilst increasing the gap between good and excellent players
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>>378148384
I honestly don't know, but I guess it has a lot to do with proper resource management and party optimization since now EVERYONE has a meter to juggle and synergize with 7 other people, which probably is more difficult to line up now that everyone has party buffs and gauge attacks.
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>>378148427
>Someone starts dating it
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>>378148427
I'm gay and supposedly pro LGTB rights but fucking this. They always throw a bitch fit and demand to be included into everything and being catered to.
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>>378147935
The attack is called Guillotine and DA makes it extend a certain buff.
I won't say more.
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>>378148293
>>378148427
I have never in my almost 15 years of playing MMOs met a tranny on EU. It must be an American thing.
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>>378142887
Lol this shit never gets old
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>>378148563
But they're not flabby preteens
Okay maybe the other 3 faces yes but looking so young as an adult means you've aged well
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>>378148682
I'm straight and supposedly pro LGTB rights but fucking this. Fags always throw a bitch fit and demand to be included into everything and being catered to.

Bring back the heterosexual sanctity of marriage.
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>>378148571
That's what I said though?

I just don't see how it's reflected in any of the changes we've seen so far. Tanks are forced to be 3.0 VIT tanks, Healers took a 10% DPS cut 85% of the time and a 5% cut the rest of the time.
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>>378148780
Yeah, we are a country of degenerates.
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>>378148801
I play femra and go to the gym so that I can fuck grills more easily.
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>>378148780
Good joke, there's a boatload of Krauts and Swedes that are just as fucked in the head if not more.
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>>378148981
No chance.
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>>378148801
None of those Au ra ones match me.
Mix of B +C Au Ra and Type C Miqote.
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>>378148981
Germany is full of furries
It's worse than toxic trannies
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>>378148325
Hi there, tranny shitter. I was wondering when you were going to pipe up again. Friendly reminder that no often you kid yourself, you can't change those chromosomes :^)
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>>378148801
Type B/C Hyur reporting.
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>>378148801
Hyur master race.
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>>378148865
>it's an anon makes assumptions on the pretty tiny amount of info we got on the actual balance of the game and treats his assumptions as fact episode
We have absolutely no idea how healers' attack magic potency is calculated now that it scales off MND, or the potencies of the spells themselves to make a statement like they took a 10% DPS cut.
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>>378148778
Well, I think I'm out twenty bucks but at least there's some new stuff to know. Thanks.
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>>378148801
Type B Hyur BUT I'M NOT BORING, I SWEAR!!!
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>>378149186
you're fucking disgusting
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>>378149246
What mental illness prompted such a sad post I wonder?

Happily CIS scum, thanks ;)
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>>378148801
Both Elezen A and B apply to me.

Wildwoods get out
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>>378148245
To clarify, they have lost some of their ammunition on top of it not doing the same thing. Not that they no longer have ammunition.
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>>378148819
He looks hot in CGI but the in game version is just derpy and the other faces are worse.

Speaking of that why are most faces shit.
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>>378125050
>Glorified chakra battery at top
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>>378146865
Which au ra get fucked by horses?
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>make an Au Ra
>don't give it handlebar horns for leverage
For what purpose?
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>>378149616
Which do you WANT to get fucked by horses? I know a guy.
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>>378148949
I play highlander and started getting fit to fuck more boys
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>>378149508
We are already out. Stay in you cavemen, and out of our cities.
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>>378148293
This is why people hate ffxiv, so many faggots, trannies and weirdos play it.

It's the social justice faggot mmorpg.
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>>378149678
One of the tribes fuck horses. This is part of the lore
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>>378149616
>Go to Au ra tribe in Othard
>The chief has a horse stable in his hut
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>>378148293
Had one in my FC. All they did when they logged on was talk about how they just came back from a rally or how they were protesting trying to get a certain law in motion or something. Every time they logged on they up dated us on their freedom fighter status and it just got annoying. Eventually that person left to an LGBTQFSW FC because we didn't make their issues the center of our world.

I don't give a damn about trannies but I understand why some do when they have to put up with this kind of shit.
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>>378149612
Its a
>MNK player unironically identifies itself as a pack of layabout, do nothing, jeering niggers
episode.
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>>378149508
>being a cave nigger
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>>378149787
Yeah hey man, I'm not judging. It's none of my business. I'm into balloons. Just let me know how you want this to happen. We'll get it done.
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>>378149186
>Male Only Au Ra
>Female Only Miqote
how?
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>>378149590
Because the CGI looks better and races you see there never look as good as they are in-game

Also their faces are miles better than Highlanders ftfy
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>>378149787
They get married with horses and fuck the "breeder" lizards in their tribe.
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>>378148801
Type B hyur here. You may not find me the life of the party but I'm always here to help you out friendos.
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>"ast has great utility!!"
>still can draw balance on command
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>>378148801
Type D Hyur here.
Nobody's perfect, let's make things better.
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>>378147528
He's busy doing streams and not actual content.
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>>378149186
i can see right though you mutant
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>>378149295
We know enough that they're fighting against a 10% damage deficit from lack of old Cleric Stance before any other changes. This is an objective fact.
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>>378149449
>Happily CIS scum, thanks ;)

Whatever you say, tranny. I guess playing pretend comes natural, eh?
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>>378149449
>CIS
I'm not even that Anon but you're playing right into his hands. Get some self awareness and stop getting baited.
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>dun scaith queue as dps
>less than 5 minutes
Cool.
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>>378150203
He also missed the point which is that even if potencies are adjusted upward to account for losing CS (fat chance but it's a technical possibility), taking away the ability to optimize the 10% damage boost of Cleric Stance serves only to reduce the gap between "good" and "excellent" players, which is the opposite of what they said they were doing.
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>>378148680
>mfw its me
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>>378149778
The problem is there is too many people that tolerate their nonsense. Our FC has a clear-cut policy on trannies.

They're simply not allowed, under no circumstances. Same with couples that play.
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Friends, anyone got an updated mining guide from level 1 to 60?
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>>378149295
It's pretty obvious that they're going to reduce the scaling (in addition to losing the 10% on Cleric) now that the only risk to DPSing is gone.
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>>378150392
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>>378150318
>get the group
>3 dps of the same job in my alliance
G-Great.
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>>378150068
One expanded balance in a fight is already more utility than most jobs bring, and you'll average 3+. The scary thing is that new celestial skill. It very well could be a skill that spreads cards put on individuals to others, and more than one buff.
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>>378150390
>e serves only to reduce the gap between "good" and "excellent" players, which is the opposite of what they said they were doing.
That's exactly what they said they're doing
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>>378150518
Just Google it. The top result is the one you want. If you've got a squadron, stock up on squadron survival manuals. Likewise get commerical survival manuals if you have any other 60 gatherer.
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>>378150390
>serves only to reduce the gap between "good" and "excellent" players, which is the opposite of what they said they were doing.
That's not what I'm talking about, though.
I'm just saying making assumptions based on the information from the live letter is dumb because we simply don't know every change.
You have to remember that ACC being gone means more other stats that boost DPS.
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>>378148778
>Two Black Blood skills so far "extend buffs"

Did they simplify all the DPS and then turn around and give the HW version of Enochian/BotD to a fucking tank?
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>>378150318
>weeping city queue
>wipe 4+ times from mega death
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>>378150803
I know right?
"We're gonna reduce the amount of timers to watch"
And then they give DRK two different bars (MP and blood).

Like, what?

Unless there's some kind of natural rotation that takes care of that shit, it's stupid.
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>>378150632
No, they said that they were trying to close the gap between bad and average/good players, but increase the gap between good and excellent players.
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>>378150775
What assumption are you specifically referencing? You're talking in circles.
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>>378149778
Stop being so triggered by people different than you, you're a fucking outcast too
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>>378150946
Is that why they're giving EVERYONE some kind of buff you can stack with others?
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>>378149787
Is this community ever going to stop being retarded about this?
>>
>caring about the meta when noone here will even come close to clearing world/server first
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>>378149975
Shi is still shit sorry
>>
Ramadan Kareem
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>>378151237
Caring about the meta has nothing to do with world or server first. Are you high on pots?
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>>378151237
>noone
>>
>have to grind Aetherochemical for lore because the game didn't give you a high enough ilevel to queue for Antitower
fuck this fucking game
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>>378151276
to each his own
I still like them
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>>378151092
>Healers took a 10% DPS cut 85% of the time and a 5% cut the rest of the time
Is completely baseless because it only takes into account the changes made to Cleric Stance and nothing else.
For all we know, healer DPS remains the same because of other changes.
For all we know, healer DPS took a bigger cut because of other changes.
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>>378151418
Go do PvP you retard. Then grind Gubal Hard.
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>>378151237
Even shitty groups in PF start following the meta when their heroes Xeno, Mr Happy and MTQ start harping on about the meta comps. The problem is that they start confusing optimal with viable and then they kick out jobs that just aren't perfect by a tiny margin.
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>>378151382
then whats the point of it?
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>>378150318
>cucked out of her own raid by diabolos
>gets eaten by him too
>flat
Is there any girl more worst girl than Scathach?
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>>378151418
This is what i did desu >>378151534

Dont bother with the weekly currency or PoTD weapons with SB coming soon
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>>378151571
>The problem is that they start confusing optimal with viable and then they kick out jobs that just aren't perfect by a tiny margin
That an aping things other, more competent players do without knowing the reason for doing things that specific way, so they don't know how to adapt their play when things go wrong.
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>mfw all the cheap timecards that were available online suddenly dissapeared.
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>>378151571
I've never seen mtq talk about meta comps. Maybe shit strats but never autistic comps or telling shutters not to use tank stance ever thus making life impossible for everyone else.
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>>378151717
>tfw can't use cheap timecards because I only pay for $13 entry sub
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>>378151714
>"i'll unchained pull, can I get a 60s countdown?" - WAR
>loses hate
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>>378151647
>Diabolos worked hard to resurrect her
>Eats her in the end
JUST
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>>378151647
>was once a warrior of light
>gets introduced to this amazing new method of using a primal's power for herself by trapping it in a crystal
>goes around saving people with the power, trying to ignore her slowly fragmenting mind
>no matter how much she fights, her friends begin to fall and the world around her becomes enveloped in darkness
>one night as the howling of fresh voidsent and empty winds of the void surround her, she gives in
>you couldn't save her
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>>378151726
Shes working with Angered now so she will definitely be shilling them and their group comp.
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What do Bard songs do now, they all look like they debuff enemies. leaks pls
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>>378148801
>Tfw when straight male Roe who cant escape the homo stereotype
I just wanna play my bro race without seeing others looking gay as fuck.
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>>378151882
What pieces are those?
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>>378151485
Okay that's what I thought you meant. Please read this next part carefully, or don't bother replying alright?

Losing Cleric Stance is not an assumption. We no longer have an on demand damage buff. What this means is ( AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID) all healers are fighting a damage deficit. This is not an assumption. This is a confirmed fact. What is an assumption is what the devs will or will not do to address this gap. Perhaps potencies will be boosted to compensate BUT THE ONLY THING THAT IS TRUE AT THIS MOMENT IS THAT THEY WILL DEAL LESS DAMAGE. This is the only non-assumptive thing we know.

The caps are not yelling, they're words I really really hope you read and comprehend.
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>Have to do PotD 4-5 hours a day until the maintenance to hit 60 on all remaining jobs
Why is there no PotD bot yet
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>>378148948
THIS IS A THING?

FUCK, I'd resub for this kind of event.
The Garo mounts were nice, but Nier gear for my tanks and Emil's BLM staff?
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>>378151991
Allagan body, bloves, boots

250 crafted pants

gordian helmet

pretty nice glamour don't think it would work on someone less bulky tho
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>>378152026
>all remaining jobs
just level the jobs you actually want to play
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>>378148801
Au'ra are reddit race. The last time i left that place, it was nothing but Aura fags clogging artworks and praising all over their front page. PLus most Aura fags I play with are very annoying RPers who like be passive agressive and uses a lot of "..." at the end of their sentences.
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>>378151991
>i210 Gordias tank helmet
>Replica Allagan Chestpiece
>Replica Allagan Gloves
>i250 crafted tank pants
>Replica Allagan Sabatons
And Baldur Axe. Probably.
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>>378151882
>allagan and gordian

pick 1
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>>378152049
Im going Roe soon. Just need tank armor ideas.
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>>378150894
I think it sounds awesome personally but it's just weird that it sounds way harder than any DPS we've heard about, when tanks are traditionally pretty easy to play.
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>>378151849
>SE adds a sidequest to save her.
>You literally rip her from Diabolos' body after defeating him.
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>>378152121
>Replica
>implying
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>>378151215
>tribe believes horses to be the most perfect beings and marries them
If you don't think they have sexual relations with them you're the retarded one.
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>>378152202
Replica is just the dyeable version, and his glam is pretty clearly dyed.
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>>378152142
>My face when someone says combination Allagan/Gordian is bad
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>>378151574
Depends on how you define the point of anything. You can clear faster and that makes certain things easier. You might even be able to skip aechanic you couldn't previously. Additionally, where's the harm in trying to find synergy with other classes? I like that I can boost my friends as a MCH and so I look for optimal synergies.

People like you seem to think that planning optimally means you're trying hard and not just doing a good job.
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>>378151882
You have to accept the stereotypes
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>>378152037
no it's not real you faggot and im glad it's not
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I'm thinking of picking the game up for the first time but I'm also a little afraid to.

The idea of trying to catch up within a month before stormblood comes out is a little daunting and since I live in EU I have no clue which Worlds have generally only English speakers.

Also if I do decide to pick the game up should I only do MSQ's or should I do all side quests as well?
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>>378152202
The regular Allagan armor can't be dyed.
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>>378152280
It doesn't work, get over it.
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>>378152369
t. Yokai Watch
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>>378152369
God damnit.
Would have loved to get that sword for DRK and that staff for BLM. Even if it clipped through every helmet in that game, I would have cherished best-boy's staff.
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>>378151849
It wasn't our job to save her, she was a fucking moron using sealed primals to power her weapons and got what she deserved.
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>>378152430
I also use Allagan boots for my tank set.

Allagan+Shire+Alexandrian is the true GOAT tank glam. I understand if you're jealous, but no need to lash out like that.
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>>378152434
it be even worse than the yokai watch event,plus i dont need to see a million cats running around going "teehee I'm 2B now look at my big booty"
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>>378152542
Please stop.
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>>378152410
just play the damn game dont worry about trying to catch up
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>>378152410
Play the fucking free trial.
Don't rush to catch up. Take your time, there won't be a whole lot to do for a while in SB except leveling. And everyone will be doing that shit.
You can pretty safely ignore sidequests, but be sure to pick up ones with blue marks or keys on them, as they unlock shit.
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>>378151816
>mfw those cards were the equivalent of $9 per month
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>>378151882
Erp? No homo, of course, bro.
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>>378124092
I want to fuck whatever that is.
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>>378151237
I care about optimizing and performing well, not poopsocking content that's supposed to last 6 months in 7 days.
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>>378151991
The exact pieces are..
Gordian Armet of Fending
Replica Heavy Allagan Armor
Replica Heavy Allagan Gauntlets
Hemiskin Brais of Fending
Replica Heavy Allagan Flanchard
Heavy Metal War Axe

Honestly I wanted to go for a similar look to Garland from Dissidia but no capes and no good horned full helms made it hard so I just stuck with this.
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Has the date for the end of the embargo been leaked? Anything more concrete than "end of May"?
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>>378152410
>since I live in EU I have no clue which Worlds have generally only English speakers
Stay away from Shiva/Moogle tbqhf, they're the unofficial german/frog servers respectively. If I were you I'd join Odin or Ragnarok.

>should I only do MSQ's or should I do all side quests as well?
Don't sweat it, the MSQ gives enough exp to level up quickly so you won't have to do many sidequests.
Some sidequests are pretty cool and let you know about the background of some NPCs, enjoy the game.
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>>378152410
Weekly lockouts don't start for a couple weeks into Stormblood to give people time to level other jobs and watch cutscenes, so you actually have a bit longer than you think. If you only do the MSQ it's very nearly enough xp to get one job from 1 to 60.
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>>378152650
The free trial is now level based too.
>>378152410
You could get all jobs up to lvl 30 without paying a damn cent. Months of gameplay to find out if you like it or not.
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>>378152542
Either go to /xivg/ or Reddit where people actually care about your attention whoring. Fuck, seriously, why aren't you on Reddit? They lose their shit for female glams. You might even get to be internet famous. You'd like that right?
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>>378125050
That's like saying in the Ultros server NeoGAF = Social Justice Warriors > 4chan > Everything Else.

It's fucking retarded.
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>>378152735
Everything should be out on the 31st.
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>>378152410
>>378152740
dont fall for the odin meme, its infested with erp and memsters
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>>378152620
>>378152816

Now is the part where you say, >>>/ffxivg/


Also, ease up on the "le reddit" autism, you're trying too hard to fit in :^)
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Why don't people like femroes?
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>>378152850
>>378152740

Salut!
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>>378152301
just seems over emphasized. synergy is good, but its also not mandatory like many of the spergs here make it seem.
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>Looking for 2 new static members
>Easter coasters apply
>Automatically rejected

Sorry but we don't need 3rd worlders holding us back.
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>>378148801
male lala but I think memeing waste a lot time, other than acting in character as a shortie man toward the taller folks. I don't know how to do meme speak.
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>>378124092

Sophia is perfection
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>>378152850
What is Odin's meme? I know Balmung = ERP, Leviathan = Gilgamesh Jr., Behemoth = BR, Sargatanas = Streamers, and Ultros = GAF'D.
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>>378153039
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>>378152930
But I already said that? And I'm telling you to go to Reddit because they legit finger themselves to fanart and character pics. I didn't mean it in the REEEE GO BACK TO PLEBBIT REEEE way. It's just that they're exactly what you're looking for.

I don't why you'd post here when we don't give a fuck about some fat dudes avatar.
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>>378153002
My point, that you seemed to have missed, is that optimizing a party's synergy is completely fine. You need to recognize your problems are with people and not concepts.
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>>378152721
Maybe we'll get something in SB. At least we have the exdeath looking stuff.
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>>378153182
Odin and Phoenix are the Balmung of EU.
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I already have a fantasia from the veteran reward and I'm thinking if I should switch to a c@ or lizard boi. I main AST and I really want to at least have a preview of animations before making final changes
What do?
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>>378149962
A mix anon, aspects from each one. I play a female character, DRK, and am a degenerate.
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>>378148801

fem lala. i am both A and B
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>>378153467
Look for animations on youtube.
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>>378153467
The animations are all the same
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>>378153214
It's to get spergs like you going. Do you know what's just as worthless as a post with some catgirl's glamour? It's a post insulting and yelling at that catgirl player who, I assure you, doesn't value your opinion in the least. Whether or not you want to admit it, you are sending this thread to an early grave with your whining, just as much as I am. Maybe we aren't so different, you and I.

>>378153389
>>378153002
I think the reason synergy (read: maximizing damage output) is so overemphasized in Creator is because Creator is so damn easy. I think they really dropped the ball on that, I want more fights as hard as A4S or A8S were.

>>378153467
The animations are barely different for class skills, this ain't WoW. The only things you gotta worry about between races is what running and emotes look like. Male lizards happen to look like retards while they are running, so be careful.

Actually, they look like retards always.
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>>378153495
I bet you're on Balmung too, you fucking profligate.
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>Apply to a static
>Automatically rejected because I'm on the east coast

FUCK BROS IT'S NOT FAIR

WE USED TO BE KINGS
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>>378153636
Nope.
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>>378153685
This doesn't actually happen. If someone unironically rejects you for this reason, you dodged a bullet because that static is full of morons (and probably Californians)
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>Apply to a static
>Automatically accepted because I'm west coast
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>>378153623
>I want more fights as hard as A4S
but then all the meta autism would be warranted in every sense because a4s REQUIRED that amount of optimization
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>>378153623
Synergy is overemphasized because of constant buffs certain jobs have got over the expansion. Trick Attack was always extremely valuable. Hypercharge got super valuable in 3.2. And then AST happened. Obviously people realized that stacking buffs is an extremely good thing. They gave us all this power.
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>Apply to static
>Automatically rejected because everyone on /v/ sucks at the game
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>Apply to a static
>Secretly a tranny
>Come out later
>Cause as much drama as possible
>Destroy them from the inside
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>>378153623
Oh I'm >>378153214 and >>378152816 not that other guy who lost his shit. I'm telling you pretty clamly there are better places than here where you can get the admiration you want.

>>378153623
Creator difficulty isn't the reason synergy is "over"emphasized. It's the fact that the game itself is designed to emphasize damage over anything else.
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>>378153901
Uh, excuse me, you can't suck at the game now that everything difficult about combat has been removed
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>>378151882
>straight male roe
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>>378154017
shiet, you right
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>Apply to static
>get in
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>>378153932
You monster! Oh also I guess doing that to an FC is pretty bad too or whatever.
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>>378153685
>Apply to a static
>Automatically rejected because I'm a Paladin

Sword and Board 24/7.
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>>378153685
Want to hear true bullshit?

>Looking for static a few weeks before creator comes out.
>Some guy sends a tell if I'm interested in his group.
>He has me fill out this long ass Google Doc form that's like a Job Application
>Asks me to get 2 recommendations from old raid groups I was in in any game
>Tells me to get into TeamSpeak so I can do an interview over voice, everyone acts really professional and shit.
>They trial me for 2 weeks in Midas Savage content
>Don't hear a word from them for a another 2 weeks, Creator comes out.
>I message him on what's the status on my position
>"lol a friend's friend wanted to join so we took him instead of you"
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>>378153832
>applying to static
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>>378152547
>plus i dont need to see a million cats running around going "teehee I'm 2B now look at my big booty"
That already happens
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>>378153784
But thats wrong? This is just a coping mechanism for east coasters. Theres nothing wrong with treating ping like gearscore.
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>>378153889
Well, I definitely think they overbuffed AST in 3.4. No doubt that's why it's auto-include now... even so, Creator is easy enough that you don't need the extra burst healing output WHM can provide. I was doing min-synced A8S with my amigos and had to give up on AST because the healing was too low, even after the buff.

>>378153854
Well, I used those specific examples for a reason. In A4S you really wanted a BLM, especially if you were saccing, and maybe a MNK. In A8S, MNK was also a very strong inclusion because of the damage output.

>>378154016
>I-I'm not mad! I promise!
Ok champ. I like how you try to play off your impotent rage with an irrelevant observation about the game design, too :^)

The game isn't designed that way, Creator is. It's too damn easy, so its all about speedruns, which means damage damage damage.
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>>378154156
Its just like a real job
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>>378154107
Sometimes I play my SCH and I think, what would going down on Eos be like? Also bodyjobs.
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>Apply to a static
>Have to go through the spanking circle to get in
>7 spanks later and I'm still rejected
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>>378154308
hate it when that happens :\
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when your raid group sucks shit how do you tell if it's your fault as the healer? i've cleared some of the same stuff with pugs but i dont know if that was just another healer carrying my weight or something.
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>>378154156
Why not find friends to play with instead?
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>>378154360
Look at PoV videos from other healers
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>Apply to static as female Miqo'te
>Penis inspection day
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>>378154360
Check the dps logs or something. Talk to your static members.
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>>378154406
They can't afford it.
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>>378154406
>try raid group with friends
>they need healer LB3 to clear every step of alex normal
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>>378154256
>ywn cast mini on yourself and fuck all of Eos's holes
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>>378154360
Is the other healer a girl?
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>>378154238
Yeah totes. So anyway, have you played a healer in another MMO? You'll find it's usually the norm to have encounters require the healer to heal for most of, if not all, of your GCDs. Compare this to FFXIV where no fight is ever designed this way. It's all burst healing over sustained. Now what this means is that if incoming damage is trivial and easily dealt with you can more easily emphasize your outgoing damage.

The game is literally designed this way which is why I said what I said previously.

Also as an irrelevant aside, I responded to you because we were discussing synergy and planning optimally. I think it's a little weird that you thought I'd just respond to some random point in your post to appear more calm. If I had you'd have seen right through it (as you incorrectly thought you had).
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>>378154360
Did people die?
Did people die to one shot mechanics?
Did you DPS?
How much, and when?
How much did other members of your group do DPS?
Did party members, DPS especially, have to use their own GCDs on self healing through any means because you were busy DPSing?
Did you fail mechanics?
Did party members fail mechanics?

I'm not necessarily seeking you to answer this post, just questions you should ask yourself.
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>tfw been getting haukke manor all week for leveling

>tfw putting castlevania music on makes 1000 times better
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>>378154593
>You'll never cast mini and go in a roe's underwear
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where are the leaks you HACK
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>>378154815
I still play WoW and have done so for 11 years. I know this game is more damage-oriented for tanks and healers, but it's not "all about damage" like you say. We're not talking about the game as a whole, we're talking about the current savage metagame, which is "all about damage" because of the difficulty being so low. So, you and I are talking about two different things, which is why your point is irrelevant. And it's very obvious you didn't have any interest in the discussion until it became an excuse to look less butthurt, you should really just stop talking about it period
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>>378154993
You need to wait for the survivors to come out of Yoshi's Castle
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>>378154502
>You pass
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>>378155054
I still remember A3S prog and that shit was all about damage. Not because the fight was easy - it wasn't, but because otherwise you simply would not fucking clear. Tanks tanking hands without tank stance as soon as gear would allow. Healers literally breaking their backs to put out as much as possible. Shit was absolutely damage oriented.
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>>378154360
Make sure you're always paying attention to what actually causes you to wipe, because that's always the biggest indicator of what your group (and by extension you) needs to work on.
If your group is dying to mechanics and you're not fucking up your portion then that's just on the rest of the group to figure out what they're doing.
If your group is failing to meet DPS checks then you should be looking at where you can possibly squeeze more DPS into the fight.
If you're dying to segments where lots of damage is being thrown around then you need to be coordinating with your other healer more so that you're getting the most out of the healing you do.
etc.
It's really just a game of looking at what's going wrong and guessing why it's happening until you get it right.
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>>378154517
they were all blaming me which is why i'm trying to figure it out. the dps is shit, and it's definitely not a great group for a lot of reasons, i mostly want to figure out if i'm a shitter among shitters or if i could do better in another group.
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>>378154889
How big do you think their dicks are haha
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>>378155238
>A fight with many brutal DPS checks is damage-oriented

Maybe one day you will be promoted to Commander Obvious. How about A8S? As I pointed out, because of the very high damage output, you didn't take AST and you usually took NIN/MNK instead of NIN/DRG. Very much so, that is not "all about damage". Even within Gordias, the same thing applies. A3S is a unique case, because most of the difficulty is from the DPS checks.

You want to talk about other MMOs? What if I claim WoW raiding is "all about damage" and give Patchwerk as an example?
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>>378155054
How am I mad for continuing a conversation we were already having? I was both of those first two Anons you quoted in >>378153623
Now explain to me how designing a game to not require intensive healing or tanking in EVERYTHING from 2.0 to 3.4 is not emphasizing damage in every aspect of the game?
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>>378154156
>He has me fill out this long ass Google Doc form that's like a Job Application
That's where you should've given up.
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lmao why do MMOs always attract the biggest nerds that make a big deal about numbers rather than how fun the game is to play
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Am I the only person a little disappointed with the treatment Ninja has gotten in this game? In ARR we were one of the top DPS and when HWard hit we were turned into a utility class (which im fine with, I love helping the group) but now with Stormblood and the cross role system, it seems like were losing that too. Can someone please give me something to get excited about for Ninja? Cause it seems like were getting no love lol were basically just there to help with aggro now
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>>378155730
because this game isn't fun
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>>378153039
pls my goddess make me kill myself
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>>378155738
Nice copypaste from le rebbit
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>>378155730
Because MMOs aren't fun to play
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>>378151647
Japanese devs are disgusting shitlords.
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>pf
>fist of father savage
>lights farm
>join for scripts
>someone says during faust
>wrong weapon anon
>finish up and leave
>im kicked from group

why? does having a full group of relic farmers give a boost or something?
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>>378146070
Oh my, anon
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>>378155730
Bad MMOs (such as this one) does.
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>>378155361
Join another static bruv, it's gonna be better for you in the long run.
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>>378155738
That's not true. You're also there to supply monks with chakra.
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>>378155814
He's sorta right though, NINs will only be used to prep the MNKs in 4.0
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>>378155569
A8S is honestly a very unique case and I don't think it's something that's ever likely to repeat. With the other three fights you wanted to burn shit down as efficiently as possible because the faster you kill it the less shit you have to deal with.

A8S just doesn't work that way because it forces all of its phases on you (you pretty much can't skip anything, the only skip was to phase Onslaughter before Final Judgement starts and that only became a thing in capped gear). You will always get the full set of bots. You will always get two intermissions. You will always go through the whole rotation of Winged Justice because like half of its HP is the spinning phase.

But that is an exception. Everything else in the game can be pushed through - should be pushed through.

If you wanna bring up other MMOs, it's no secret that raid mechanics in XIV are supremely uncreative. They rarely introduce some kind of core boss mechanic instead of opting for various combinations of stack-unstack-stand in X.
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>>378146070
>>378146539
Stop with the slurs.
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>>378155887
You had a Kinna weapon, didn't you?
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>>378155814
>knowing what is on plebbit
Anon...
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>>378152239
It also straight up says breeding happens with picking lots. They don't fuck horses.
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>>378155738
>Im treated so unfairly
>Proceeds to talk about how great it was for two expansions, and finally you're not on top for one
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>>378155887
nope, I've done the same thing, just joining to get all the drops for seals
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>>378148801
Male Miqo'te player here, don't fit in any of the categories, though. Play mostly like a Type B Hyur. inb4 Type B due to "lack of self-awareness".
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>>378155887
Well they were light farmers and obviously wanted people who need light to get the spot. Not to mention, many join farm groups who only want to get carried or for Khloe, so they maybe thought you were one of those too.
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>>378156026
yes why
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>>378156036
I-I just read it for news, I swear!
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>>378156016
I want to mindbreak a plainsfolk lalafell so her pupils turn into a dunesfolk
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Still the best boss in the game.

And it's just a fucking ball.
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>>378148801
Both types of Elezen are accurate to a degree.
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>>378148801
Switched from miqo'te to midlander, so I guess I really am a Type C through and through.
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>>378156056
breeding

because they can't inseminate/be inseminated by horses

they can still fuck them recreationally
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>>378156168
>get carried

in a farm group with an 260 ilvl filter?
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>>378156246
Don't worry, we're all redditors actually.

So /v/ what's your favorite Larryzaur video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAtD582a6cw
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>>378156537
>Larryzaur
thats going a bit far
his voice pisses me off
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>>378152935
disgusting sheboons
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>>378156004
I mean, the core MMO mechanics tend to be stand, stack, spread, soak, drop, kite, and tag. It's not really that different between games. You can describe basically any modern FF or WoW boss mechanic witht hose.
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>>378156537
>Copy everything from Merri
>But put a retarded voice on top of it
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>>378156537
>redditor makes a joke video
>other redditor finds it funny, then proceeds to copy the shit out of it, multiple times
Just like my massively multiplayer online games.
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>>378156537
>the joke is he talks like a retard
>now watch this joke on repeat for nearly 20 minutes
The BLM one was alright, but only barely.
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>>378156537
>people actually watch ANY ff14 personalities
theyre all reddit trash and shit out unfunny manchild garbage

fucking hell the community in this game pisses me off
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>>378156769
>You can describe basically any modern FF or WoW boss mechanic witht hose.
Why do we have to spend hundreds of hours grinding just to memorize such boring patterns?

I don't get the appeal. 2 ~ 3h per fight would be more than enough.
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>>378156004
>Raid mechanics in XIV are uncreative

Now I'm beginning to suspect you're the one who hasn't played other MMOs. There is a fine line between creative and gimmicky. Alysrazor is a gimmicky fight, whether or not you want to call it creative. A12S is a creative fight, with some pretty interesting and unique mechanics that combo in interesting ways (I had to avoid copping out and saying A8S here, which is in my opinion the best-designed fight in any MMO I've played).

Take the Patchwerk example again. Not at all a creative or gimmicky fight... but I still like it, he's always been one of my all-time favorite raid bosses, be it 10, 25, or 40 man Patchwerk.

Anyway, "burn shit down as quick as possible" just isn't how its done. You're oversimplifying. If a fight turns out to be that way, then in my opinion that means it isn't challenging enough... which is how I feel about all of Creator, essentially.
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>>378155545
Biggest of all the races
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>>378156537
>>378156669
I watch him ironically
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>>378149787
are you memeing? sauce pls
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>>378157156
He is half-memeing. One tribe marries its horses, then draws straws on which other Au Ra they have to fuck to reproduce.
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>>378157240
Come on bro. You know they fuck those horses.
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>>378157156
it's in the naming conventions thread on the official forums, they got a bunch of xaela tribes
obviously it's a symbolic marriage but the meme is they fuck the horse
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>>378157140
I ERP homosex ironically. It's really funny writing my WoL being captured by garleans haha
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>>378156537
Why does he talk like he's talking to a retarded toddler?
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>>378156769
>No boss fights where the boss goes invincible and forces you to complete a sliding block puzzle or shuffle puzzle in a time limit
>No simon says mechanics for standing on certain tiles, but for all 8 players
>No literal jumprope mechanics yet in XIV or platforming to reach a boss as lava rises from the floor
>No boss where each player is unable to attack any target but another enemy that is tethered to another ally, but has to kite his own enemy and it speeds up over time
>No boss where a swarm of enemies increases over time and beeline healers during the entire fight
>No fight where the boss is weaker but has no aggro table and relies mostly on channeled cleaves at random targets
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>>378157240
>damage control
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>>378157090
Alright but the original argument was that the damage meta came out of Creator being so easy, which is a really weird thing to say considering that unless the fight is scripted in a way that pushing more damage doesn't make it easier, there's never really a reason NOT to try and do maximum damage.
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>>378156537
>Male cat.
>Toddler voice.
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>>378157029
It's amazing how you can't find a single good XIV-related channel on youtube. I don't know it somehow is the game's fault or it is just a western-only problem (I don't know how the community is in chink lands, other than the fact that koreans really fucking love to buy fantasias).
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>>378157456
nope, but we have DPSPDPSDPSPDPSDPSPDSP
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>>378156517
You'd be surprised.
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