Thoughts?

>>378119207
4chan needs a container board for shittubers

>>378119295
that excludes giant bomb. giant bomb threads are allowed and have been a part of /v/ since 2008.

>>378119295
>4chan hates Youtube now
What happened?

>>378119295
It doesn't need to be contained, it only needs to be purged.

>>378119207
I'm not watching that shit, that's what I think.

>>378119357
Purging never works, a containment board would honestly would be the best solution.

>>378119207
It gives me yet another reason to tell any other aspiring game developer
>Do not listen to these hack frauds

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>>378119207
>its not possible to keep politics out of games
14 sec in and hes' already spouting BS.

>>378120268
It's true thought. Name a single game without some kind of political element in it.

>>378120407
Risk of Rain.

>>378120407
Snake Game

Why do people keep linking these shits? Everyone agrees they're retarded e-celeb garbage

>>378120407
Tetris Attack

>>378120407
Yar's Revenge

>>378120407
Puyo puyo

>>378120407
Pong.

>>378120407
mario

>>378120407
Pong

>>378119207
Guys stop responding to the thread, we're going to run out of bandwidth.

>>378120407
Zelda, Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, DOOM, HL2... Etc...

>>378120407
100% Orange Juice

>>378120660
>>378120649
>>378120629
>>378120572
I mean't actual games with a story

>>378120649
Really save for the FE series I'd argue all Nintendo games are politic free.

>>378120407
Spyro

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>>378120407
Kirby

Oh wait.

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>>378120680
>Zelda, Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, DOOM, HL2... Etc...
Literally all of these games have some kind of political element behind them, unless if this is a joke in which case well baited m8

>>378120724
>stories are only political

it's like you're the guy that can't go five seconds without saying drumpf.

Honestly what games are political? at most its like a "Nature is good don't destroy nature" and maybe a goverment conspiracy here or there.

>>378120786
>there's a "bad guy" so they are political

fuck off

>>378119295
it's video game related
if we can have threads about politics
threads about traps
threads about reddit/tumblr/twitter
then why the fuck can't we have threads about VIDEO GAME youtube channels?

>>378119295
>>378119696
Wouldn't a containment thread on /b/ or something work better?

Politics is fine but going straight at the audience "you're beliefs are wrong and I'm not using any sort of story telling for this and I"m making my opposition a strawman"

which seems to be the way that most "political" games are handled.

>>378120786
What the hell is political about Dark Souls? There aren't even any functioning governments we're aware of in the entire playable timeline.

>>378120649
If you actually watch the video, it say Mario is about the ruling class is dependent on the working class and that Bowser is a metaphor for the patriarchy

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>>378120591
Amitie is best girl

>>378121076
>making politics out of something that wasn't original

well I'm glad I didn't watch it.
thats fucking schizophrenic.
But hey what can you expect from progressives that think that kanji is gay.

>>378121076
Jesus christ

>>378121076
I can't tell if you're joking or not because it really sounds like something they would say

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>>378121076
Please tell me your joking....

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>>378120845
Zelda is, more often than not, about saving a kingdom under siege by a warmonger who believes it is his sociopolitical birthright to be the ruler of a nation. Half-Life 2 literally follows a resistance against an oppressive regime. The recent DOOM goes into ecopolitics and the ramifications of harvesting energy from a distant world. I can go on.

You're kidding yourself if you don't believe that these aren't directly or indirectly politically influenced stories. Politics is more than just "guy in a suit wants you to vote for his welfare plan". Politics has ALWAYS been a thing within our world and media.

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>>378121076
Insane

>>378119207

Oh boy it's another video where the retard scam-artists make a ridiculous claim and when it's pointed out they go, "Hahaha, James was just testing you!"

>>378119207
It's funny

I'm actually making a tesis around videogames.
It's all about facts, studies, and shit. You need to read a lot from publications from qualified people of Digra, professors from different University around the world (not "fake" game universities, but real ones).

Then I watch this kind of shit and I tought to my self: Do they think they have any relevance in the real accademic universe of the game studies ?

Extra Credits are a joke to us.

>>378119207
There's a difference between writing that explores a political theme and writing that jams one down your throat.

>>378121076
>>378121161
>>378121241
>>378121242
>>378121271

Oh look. Anon was telling bullshit and people just believed em.

Sheep. The lot of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_tdztHiyiE

All games reflect the political or social political views of the people that create them.

>>378119207
>EC

Time to type in my options field, kys OP

>>378121295
this

I can't think of a single useful video they've made, even their "getting into the field" stuff is pretty bare bones advice or just bad advice.

>>378121295

>I'm actually making a thesis around videogames.

I think it's a relevant field to go into what with the rise of games but what games would you actually be able to reference in depth? Seems to me that video games have an extremely shallow appreciation of politics. Comparable to Disney movies or something.

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>>378120998
Literally the ending of the game has you decide on whether to prolong the Age of Fire or begin the Age of Dark and become it's Dark Lord - a choice that's going to affect the entire world and people who live in it. That's the definition of a "political" choice.

>>378120407
Crash Bandicoot

>>378121765
That's retarded for numerous reasons, first of which is that doesn't translate to real world politics in any conceivable way.

>>378121884

>stopping Dr Neo Cortex
>apolitical

P1

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STOP FUCKING POSTING YOU ARE WASTING ALL THE INTERNET

>>378121295
>I'm actually making a tesis around videogames.
Ugh I'd like a Big Mac and a Coke please.

>>378119207
You gonna tell me that Jews are aliens next?

>>378121243
k

>>378119207

>video starts with loads of American nerd shit.

Why is it that people who insist on having this conversation always derive from the same position. In times past when capeshit didn't rule the world, we wouldn't even be having this debate because it'd be taken as a given that any cursory book or movie *could* be political.

Fuck me. It's like living in a world of teenagers.

>>378119207
It took him 6 minutes and 22 seconds to say two things:

>Politics are inherent to video games, and cannot be removed
Which is false. A game like Okami is just about good vs. evil in ancient Japan, and it's quite refreshing to play when things get too edgy in modern games. I'm sure some rabid feminist could find some points on how Okami perpetuates [whatever vapid bullshit], which is levels of straw grasping higher than what I allow to pass as valid criticism.

and

>we can discuss how we implement politics in video games
Which is exactly right, and why I'll always advice any developer / game designer / writer from including contemporary bullshit like diversity or post-modernism, which just devolves into tokenism and 1-dimensional inane critique of western culture. Developers who know their shit asks the larger political and moral questions, the timeless ones, and build their games around them.

A good example is New Vegas, which creates a universe where YOU have the opportunity to shape the mojave. Do you want a bureaucratic republic? A totalitarian empire? A big brother state? Or Ancapistan?

>>378120786
There's a difference between pushing existing political agendas and using canon similes to draw extraordinarily transparent lines to connect them to the real world and being apolitical. Dark Souls doesn't have any politics unless you read into the vague ass lore. HL2 had zero politics, it was a fictional monolithic alien race that overtook humanity and the predecessor was equally apolitical, sans extraordinarily vague G-Man, whose motives were never totally exposed meaning he too was apolitical despite his nomenclature. FFX was not political, it was totally fantastical and bore no connection to real life. DOOM was apolitical.

Games can make appeals to morality, but morality and politics are not one in the same. It's the connection of current events and paradigms in the medium is what makes them political. CoD's constant terrorist threat makes appeals to the current political paradigms, as such it's political. Deus Ex was political, it had several similes which could easily be interconnected with today's zeitgeist.

>>378119207

I feel like I'm pissing in the wind by taking EC as face value but I already got my cock out so why not?

No you fucking idiot when we say "Get politics out of vidya" we mean "Get YOUR politics out of vidya". Contemporary and/or current political views have no fucking place in video games even in a context where they might serve a contextual narrative purpose. All it does is shoehorn the writers' views onto their work in a vain attempt to virtue signal their beliefs onto their audience and in most case it is hamfisted as fuck. The most obvious example unrelated to vidya is what Marvel has been doing to their comics for the last few years. This PC bullshit has led to tanking sales ans instead of admitting that the shit stories and lame duck """""Diversity""""" superheroes are the reason why people aren't buying their shit the heads are doubling down assuming that their readers are just misogynist pigs who want none of them wo-man or nignog heroes. You know despite plenty existing already.

tl;dr Diversity and Contemporary Politics DON'T SELL.

>>378120724
Devil May Cry

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>>378122017
No one said it directly translates to any real world political event. The point is that the concept of politics is something you can't exactly "avoid" in games because they're rooted into the human collective both consciously and unconsciously. Whether it be analogous to real life or whether the politics merely exist to facilitate the world itself, in some shape or form they're going to inevitably show up.

That's not the same as developers consciously deciding "I want to make a political story". I'm sure a lot of people don't, and many games are more on-the-nose about it than others. But your inspirations and ideals are going to reflect on what you make and politics is one of the most basic constructs that society is built on and which we utilize for drama and comedy.

>>378121765
>appeal to morality
>political
Pick one.

>>378122867
>implying morality isn't a concept built on political constructs

>>378122638

>A good example is New Vegas, which creates a universe where YOU have the opportunity to shape the mojave. Do you want a bureaucratic republic? A totalitarian empire? A big brother state? Or Ancapistan?

I'd actually argue this reflects one of the major flaws about politics in games insofar as it espouses the point that you have the ability to change things on your own just because you're Player 1. It's probably the worst political critique any game could offer and reflects the whole 'you're such a special individual' issue we have in society right now.

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>>378119207
KEK, what on earth this hobbie have become?, for fucks sake.

>>378122830

Definition of political

1
a : of or relating to government, a government, or the conduct of governmentb : of, relating to, or concerned with the making as distinguished from the administration of governmental policy

2
: of, relating to, involving, or involved in politics and especially party politics

3
: organized in governmental terms political units

4
: involving or charged or concerned with acts against a government or a political system political prisoners

>>378120407
President Elect

>>378122668

>HL2 had zero politics

Ridiculous. HL2 was predicated on the idea of a totalitarian government choosing to make difficult decisions in order to save/enslave the wider populace after an alien attack (to explain it in simple terms). Arguably, the game's oddest flaw is that it presented a major political episode and then didn't follow up with it. The two later episodes are based on community effort to save things - a political concept given they obviously believe they're fighting on the same side for something or other.

>>378121090
That's a strong political statement!

>>378121602
Not him, but Killer7 has a somewhat in-depth political message to my understanding, though I only played the game once and never took the time to try and figure out what it all meant.

>>378119207
>durrrr hurrrr personal is political everything must be a representative act of how fucking righteous and woke you are

Consume conspicuously goyim!

>>378119207
>They belong there as long as they adhere to my views.

>>378119207
Has anyone ever said "Please remove Politics from my game"?

Having visit steam forums and various websites, I actually have never seen anyone bring up Politics. Well, maybe from sites like kotaku, but... that's about it.

>>378123264
>>378122668

Though don't get me wrong, I appreciate your point about there being a spectrum when it comes to politics. Seems dumb to say 'it has politics' and then not assess the depth to which it goes.

>>378122668
Actually, I'd argue that FFX is strongly a criticism of theocracy. The church of Bevelle deliberately fooled the people and lied to them, for the sake of keeping peace and order.

>>378123017
Your point is heavily dependent on the person playing the game, and relies on the same fundamental arguments as "GTA causes violence".

>>378123091

ffs this has been addressed already. the argument was about developers inserting THEIR political beliefs into vidya. This is like if I wanted to make a game where the government is the big bad guy and then because i hold a certain political belief think that a literal Nazi Trump leading the Russians should be the final boss. You don't do that. Or maybe I'm a trans binary person and in an attempt to represent my people I insert a blatant token character who solely exists to tell the player about their sexual orientation.

>>378123010
Do you have any clue how the original political systems worked? Like feudalism where serfs were born into debt and forced to cultivate under their lords in order to live, essentially as slaves? Morality and government have a very dubious illusion of being unified but the opposite is true and that is evident through centuries of history related to government and its corruption.

Likewise morality is a social construct built on the back of not only physical evolution but social evolution as well and is well and far from political. Morality only makes it into politics as a cunning guise of beneficence, and seldom functions well without adequate enforcement at which point you're instigating a totalitarian regime.

>>378123317

I remember reading about it but this was ages ago. IIRC it invoked a criticism (though not necessarily negative) of Japanese culture as being splintered in the aftermath of WW2/globalisation. It's obviously obscure but it helps explain the several personalities being linked and all the mention of bombs, and bridges connecting Japan/America.

>>378123264
>appeal to morality
>political

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>>378119207
>Cylons
>Invisible threat

>>378121243
You could have just said birthright

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>>378119207

tldr

>"It's impossible to leave politics out of videos games, so lets include politics, and of course it must be left wing politics"

>>378123421

>actually, I'd argue that FFX is strongly a criticism of theocracy. The church of Bevelle deliberately fooled the people and lied to them, for the sake of keeping peace and order.

the difference is that is weaved into the story and not shoved into your face, That explanation came from you reading into it. I'm against HURR LOOK AT THESE REDNECK ALT RIGHTERS AREN'T THEY EVIL?

>>378123575
Oh, it's definitely about the relations between Japan and the Western world, I picked up on that much, I just don't know whether or not it really says much of any meaning on their relationship. I wouldn't be too surprised if it does though.

>>378123421

>and relies on the same fundamental arguments as "GTA causes violence".

Fair enough, I can't argue with that.

>make game without politics
>people enjoy the game

>make game with politics
>people who dont play games will praise it
>gamers dont touch it because its garbage made by hipsters

developers, great power comes with great responsibility

>>378119207
All e-celebs are cancer. Quarantine board when?

>>378123625

No, I heard your point; I just disagree. It's not like another post who mentioned Okami with reference to it being about "good" vs "evil" in Ancient Japan. That's moral. HL2 is political (albeit very simple).

>>378121393
>Actually watching that shitty video

>>378123708
Not to mention that theocracy as a whole is hardly a real issue. Churches have influence and they leverage it, but as a whole it's not obstructive nor destructive anymore. Historically speaking it has been, those days for the most part are gone with some exceptions, which again, hardly have enough weight to have any consequence.

Reminder that the average /v/irgin who has dicked around in RPG Maker 2003 has more credentials as game developers than the Extra Credits guys (don't even remember his fucking name anymore lol)

Reminder that Extra Credits have made revisionist historical videos despite having no background in history

Reminder that Extra Credits unironically thinks that we are going to run out of internets soon

You know a threads shit when you wish OP had opened with that one picture they did of a Dragon so all the lizard fuckers would hijack the thread

>>378123849
>make game with politics
>people who dont play games will praise it
>gamers dont touch it because its garbage made by hipsters
Deus Ex had political shit in it just like MGS 2 and people liked those games. I hate this meme that this shit is new and only done in garbage like Gone Home. I swear this board is filled with underage fags thinking they know shit about the subject.

>>378123770

I assumed it wanted to express the idea that Japan's identity is confused. I think Suda51 deals in broad strokes when it comes to this kind of thing.

Oh, as an aside, MGS2 is political. That's a game all about the power to filtrate media and the need for an individual to rise up against it.

>>378124120
It's only political shit if I don't agree with it!

>>378124120

I don't think Gone Home is political in the same way. It's more personal, although I guess its existence is predicated on the idea that LGBT issues are worth talking about in games (a fair point, I think).

>>378124120
>I swear this board is filled with underage fags thinking they know shit about the subject.
You could apply this to most threads sadly.

>>378123708
Which makes FFX politically charged, and thus not apolitical.

But as I also wrote earlier, contemporary political criticism or agendas that are implemented into games is downright a cancer, whether it's "FUCK FASCIST ALT RIGHTERS" or "FUCK DEGENERATE LIBTARDS" in their essence. It's tiring as fuck.

>>378124280
Agree, people will see it just as leftist wankery or even propaganda though even if it's political content is way smaller than Deus Ex for example.

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>>378119207
Games are political to these idiots because they're against western civilization. If you were told that driving on the right side of a road was oppressive for left handed people and there were enough of idiots like you, soon driving would become political. Thank god the tide is turning and these creepy cultist fucks are going to way of the dodo.

Isnt this the guy who said we'd run out of bandwidth?

>>378122830
When anything and everything is considered political themes because you can look at something and make comparisons, you are basically arguing that nothing is.

>>378124120

hmmm let me think...

>MGS2
>Deus Ex
>good games

>Gone Homo
>bad """""game"""""

really roasts those almonds...

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>>378119207
What people say
>All games are political because they deal with things that exist in real life!
What they actually mean
>We need political games because we need to SMASH DRUMPF!

>>378124507

Not really true. It seems as if you're misplacing hatred for a certain type of leftist (ie followers of post-structuralists) where it's not needed. I think the vid is mostly drawing attention to the idea in a profoundly simple way for its main audience of 13-year-olds. It's hardly, "Down with Western Civ!"

>>378124120

the difference is those games you mentioned ARE CLASSIC GAMES! Gome Home is just an exercise in hipster rhetoric HEY GUYS GAMES CAN BE ABOUT TEH GAYS TOO!

>>378120947
This desu. I'm 100% ok with this since in theory a lot of games could be pretty cool if they do it properly. Sadly you'll also see fags shoving their idea of right and wrong in the most hamfisted way possible.

>>378119207
>Everything is political
Curious how only faggots who do try to make this the case make this claim. Usually lefties.

>Extra credits
So have they made a game or

>all media is political

Fucks up right off the bat.

>>378124703
WTF is queer writing?

>>378124213
MGS2 (and 4 for that matter) are dystopian portrayals of a shadow government gaining global control of information, markets, and war, and Ocelots' attempt to dismantle it all.

The difference between this and Horizon, for example, is that when Horizon depicts a scientist from the old world as a black muslim woman, it's 100% tokenism. The character itself does not leave a bad taste, but the fact that it was left there to appease certain demographics does.

>>378124772

but it well known the EC guy is a hardcore leftist so separating his videos from his personal views is a chore WHEN HE IS TALKING ABOUT POLITICS.

>>378124697
Sure you can play contrarian all you want but Deus Ex was considered an excellent title on release and has dickriders even to these days.

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>>378120564
STOP RIGHT THERE

TETRIS IS POLITICAL YOU SHITLORD

>>378124980
It mean "I'm gonna pander to attention whores who think they're the wrong gender"

>>378124854
>>378125005
But they have political stuff in it. That means that the issue isn't in making games with political shit in it but in it's execution.

>>378125073
Dude what if like, the Tetris theme was just a folk song the creator liked?

>>378125073
HaaH WaaW.

Political ideas have a place in games but there's a big difference between "bad guy is a tyrant who makes his subjects life bad" and the villain being " a male JERK named Ronald Rump".

>>378125036

i wasn't playing contrarian you faggot. I was pointing out that lumping MGS2, Gone Home, and Deus Ex in the same boat was dishonest.

MGS2 and DE can stand on their own as games without being hampered by the story. Gome Home literally only has its story and it is a shit one at that.

>>378121295
How can you make a thesis if you can't even spell thesis?

i'm not interested in the political opinions of video game developers. they're all ignorant about the world which exists outside of their twitter bubbles. we're talking about people who won't ever charitably entertain differing opinions, not even for academic purposes. this leads to really uninteresting and incomplete worldviews and results in pathetic circlejerkery by people who believe that they have all the answers but can't concisely defend anything they believe in.

t. literal libcuck

>>378124362
>game with fuck degenerate librards


Name one game that actually did this which wasn't also poking fun at the people who do this

>>378125167
>That means that the issue isn't in making games with political shit in it but in it's execution.
Bingo.

And for that matter, I don't really care about Gone Home. I think it's overrated, but it's just a game about exploring the life of some trans kid. Big deal. I never understood the extreme hate parts of /v/ launched at it. It's execution makes perfect sense, so I have no bone to pick with it.

>>378119207
>making pitch of voice higher on purpose
No

Not surprising. The cornerstone of leftism is making everything political.

>>378119207
I had no idea I was absorbing so much political propaganda from tetris and pacman until this twink pointed it out.

>>378125626
None, maybe some shit no one played. People overreact and treat anything they don't agree with as propaganda.
Gone Home has some feminist drawings in it which just meant that the two dykes were feminists yet countless threads appeared with anons treating it as propaganda when the game was new.

>>378125626
I can't, I wrote that in a completely hypothetical sense. I can't remember the game, but I do remember seeing screenshots of some game with a narrator going about "the fall of nationalist xenophobes yadda yadda", which was a clear right hook at the conservatives in USA.

>>378119207
SPIRIT CRYSTALS

"Is Wario A Libertarian" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,

>>378120724
Trine

>>378125642
Same. Probably because it was praised as a master piece by some reviewers and all the people overreacting over Anita's bs just did the same with the game.

>>378120724

>Oh shit I'm losing, better change the criteria!

>>378120407
Bomberman
Castlevania
Littlebigplanet
Super Mario Bros
Sonic
Jak and Daxter
Crash
Doom
Minecraft
Mega Man
Contra
Duck Hunt
Pacman
Tetris
Dark Souls
And a million more than I can't be bothered to list.

>>378119207
I don't mind youtubers but Extra Credits is both EXTREMELY basic shit that really shouldn't teach you anything as an interest with even intermediate interest in games, and they're also incredibly often flat out wrong. I really hate when people that don't know their shit try to make edutainment

>>378126480
This, also. EC grabs the lowest of low hanging fruit and still manages to fall on his ass.

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>having a bloated story in your video game, let alone political elements

Found your problem. Stop making cinematic experiences and the issue will go away.

>>378120407
why are people seriously replying to this guy? He is cucklord, he will political shit in a blank space or in a rock.

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>>378124697

>MGS2
>Deus Ex

>good

>>378121295
>Digra
You mean the fucks being run by the CIA?

>>378119207

The only reason I play games is because games don't matter.

Apparently the gleichschaltung can't even let this pass.

>>378119207
They're right, as long as people are making games, games will reflect the people who make them. Ie. be political, or at the very very least, have morals or some worldview of the creator's.

>>378119207
what a faggot cuckold

>>378120724
Journey.

why do i get fighter guild exp for doing fighter guild quests but not mage guild exp for doing mage guild quest?

>>378126480
Anon, please... stop posting, or you will run out of Internet!

You guys are missing the point. How am I supposed to enjoy a video game without it constantly reaffirming my smug political points of view that I hold over the unwashed masses?

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What, exactly, is the political meaning behind this scene?

>>378131485

Their artist is a woman, right? She definitely made that dragon sexy on purpose.

>>378131801
I thought their artist was a dude

>>378120724
Monster Hunter.

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>We do not fear censorship, for we have no wish to offend with improprieties or obscenities, but we do demand, as a right, the liberty to show the dark side of wrong, that we may illuminate the bright side of virtue - the same liberty that is conceded to the art of the written word - the art to which we owe the Das Capital and the works of Shakespeare.

I don't know you guys, they seem pretty reasonable to me.

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>>378126480
Who would you recommend then? I find this sort of design talk fascinating, and I already watch mark brown.

>>378133079
Except they have no qualms with advocating the censorship of other people who disagree with them

>>378125193
Dude what if the eating snake minigame is a representation of the capitalism tat hungers for more until it bites his own tail.

>>378120879
>on /b/
Imagine trying to have ANY discussion about anything whatsoever on /b/ that isn't porn threads

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>>378131801
Most likely, since she probably makes decent dosh from furries off this stuff

>>378119207
these faggots are still going? who the fuck cares

>>378119295
we wouldn't need it if everyone just fucking saged

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>It' an everything is political argument episode

>>378120724
Those are actual games you twat

>>378125073
The fact that a gaming "journalist" does not know the history of Tetris, which is perhaps the most interesting story in the entirety of video games, is extremely aggravating.

But I guess it's to be expected from the people who nearly got killed by the very first enemy in Doom.

It's convenient that they put "all media is political" in the title, because now I know everything they're going to say and I can skip it.

>>378123018
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS?
SAUCE

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He's right this time, but it's pointless to argue this here, /v/ is full of brainlets.

>>378120407
world of goo

>>378119207
Reported for advertising.

Everyone is a sinner because everyone have during their life done or thought something wicked orevil. All work of art is political because all works of art can be connected to ideas or whatever.

Descriptors are useless when used binarily which is why the you should be cautious when someone tries to force something that in the real world is on a scale into a binary model.

>>378119207
The last time I watched them they ate up the anti-gamergate crap, claimed that Hatred was too violent to exist and made a video about how you have to put a cap on how far skill can get you because it isn't fair for newbies or handicap people. I am pleasantly surprised with this video and think it made a good argument. But would they walk the walk ie allow a white male only indie developer make a game about the benefits of ethnic nationalism?

>>378119207
I think we need to ban Youtube off this site.

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>>378120724
Rain World
Blade Kitten
La Mulana
Duke Nukem 3D
Terraria
100% Orange Juice
Binding of Isaac
Risk of Rain
Bad Rats
Don't Starve
Super Hot

Isn't this guy batshit who made that video saying we can talk to Egyptian gods?

>>378122638
While you're right about Okami, i do feel like theres some Nature x Technology argument to be had with the depictions of characters like Yami, Lechku & Nechku

>>378136495
Comrade, the World of Goo is about the proletariat being used as sacrifices to build a world where they are not necessary, then fighting back against the megacorporation and then striving to find a world for them, where they are with their equals

>>378137013
Without act there's no sin, thoughtcrime is a thing for modernday authoritarians. It takes huge metal somersaults to make Pong political, but politisizing seems to be the fetish of americans now.

I see you like to think nothing is binary and everything is a spectrum, but life doesn't work like that. Go back to your gender studies or African-american history mayor.

>>378121526
this is true, this is not incorrect

>>378120649
Vilifies the practice of black magic.(Bowser is canonically a sorcerer. Look it up.)
Empowers the blue collared working class.

>>378120680
Zelda promotes the idea of a master race to rule over a kingdom, by divine birthright.

Dark Souls deals with systemic racism and slavery.

>>378120773
Kirby tackles the issue of the ruling class taking what they wish, and raping the land.

>>378126240
An industrial society is oppressive, and seeks to trap you in your place.

Castlevania

Sonic fights against animal abuse and pollution.

Doom

Mega Man takes on discrimination, as robots fight for true autonomy, and equal rights.

In Contra, the reason only two soldiers are fighting the alien horde, is that the military doesn't want to upset the current political climate.

Duck Hunt promotes hunting.

Pac-man promotes the use of performance enhancing drugs.

Tetris is an allegory for communism. As long as everyone does their part, then everyone gets even distribution, and the system continues to run efficiently. But step out of line, or get greedy, then the system gets bloated and falls apart.

>>378120407
Pong.

>>37814007
Autism.

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post yfw space jews

>>378120407
Any fighting game

Why the sudden push for the acceptance of "politics" in games?

>>378120407
God Hand.

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>>378119207
Sure.

On the ideas:
>All of his examples are of works of art with political intent. This does not mean all art is political. All squares are rectangles, not all rectangles are squares.
>People are not entirely products of their environment. You CAN divorce ideas from your own worldview and consider others. This is what any intellectually honest person does. The fact that he thinks this is impossible shows just how small-minded he is.
>His past work has demonstrated that he is against
>calls Islamic extremists – “people who look Middle Eastern”, utterly removing any sort of moral context for it (yet happily calls Nazis “fascists”) utterly dishonest.

On the video itself:
>he’s an insufferable prig
>that audio filter infuriates me (why would a man want to make his voice higher?)
>the art style is the epitome of pic related. Straw-man
>I get a strong sense that the artist hates humanity

Terrible video, pseudo-intellectual.

I watched his early stuff when he was first getting started on the Escapist. The only two good videos were about early music in vidya, and how the East and West view guns.

>>378124073
>Reminder that Extra Credits have made revisionist historical videos despite having no background in history
God those Crusades videos piss me off.

>>378119207
I am not going to watch this and also I do not have an opinion on the matter.
But I assume there's something misinformed and/or illogical in the video and people are getting their jimmies in a rustle over it.

>>378124141
MGS 2 and Killer7 are good examples of making a political statement that can be either broad of narrow in scope. And it helps that the statement is more complex than "AMERICA IS FUCKED AND EVIL LOL"

>>378137374
>Binding of Issac
>no political statement
DUDE CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL LOL

>>378142971
>political=Religious

(You)

>>378142412
>Like Six videos condemning the crusades
>Reconquista not found
Every time.

>>378123706
Pretty much this. Imagine how those fags would react if the latest Civilization had an immigration/minority feature that would create unhappiness and crime.

>>378121242
>your
You have to be over the age of 18 to post here.

>>378119207
>all media is political

Fuck off Marx

>>378122770
So far as I know, nobody would mind much if e.g. Storm got her own series.
"Market research has shown blacks and women would buy more of our comics if we made one about Storm"
"k"

What's enraging people is that existing heroes are being blackwashed, girlwashed, downswashed and gaywashed. That just upsets anyone who grew attached to the characters, and it's also blatant shoehorning.

I'm still a bit [TRIGGERED] that Squirrel girl is a fatarse with downs.

I don't really like Extra Credits, but it's true that you can't separate politics from games nor should you.

From reading this thread, it is also abundantly clear that no one on /v/ really understands how broad a subject politics are. How a group of kids decide what to do after school is political, for fuck's sake. Not every game can be like Pac-Man or Mario or Tetris.

The video could have been more concise, though.

>>378145265
Squirrel girl getting her own series, Tumblr or not, was retarded.
She is supposed to be a character used for jokes and shitting on powerlevel faggots.

All ___ is political.
Fill the blank.

>>378120407
Rhythm heaven Megamix