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Are you excited, /v/?
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>still trying to compete with Nintendo's handhelds when they have both Pokemon and Monster Hunter on their side
Sony never learns
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I'd be impressed if they manage a negative number of games
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>>378115401
vita has more games than the 3ds and wii u combined
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>new Sony (((((handheld)))))
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>>378115340
It's already stillborn
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literally all sony knows how to do is follow
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>>378115340
no. vita was a failure because sony was too fucking lazy to actually get games for it so they just spent all their resources on ps4.

what makes you think this won't be another fucking failure?
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>>378115340
DON'T PLAY WITH MY EMOTIONS!!
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>>378115340

>handheld from the creators of Sony "we un-ironically released a console called LIFE as DOA" Vita
>handheld from the creator of the Sony "We don't know how we succeeded " Playstation 4

Oh yeah, I'm excited about havin a gud laff at it.
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>>378115448
>Where are they now?

They didn't fucking go anywhere, they're still here.
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>>378115340
why bother release another console just to kill it off?
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Unless they can save their asses and make something better than the PSP, which I doubt, it'll fail.
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But they already could have had their own Switch.
>Removed hdmi out in the original Vita model
>Removed sd cards as well

>Made the Vita tv instead
Oy vey that sure worked out for them.
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The PSP was mediocre and is only praised due to emulation capabilities.

The Vita was a disaster entirely supported by weebs and neets with very few good actual games.
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>>378115340

Quick /v/, guess what kind of gimmick Sony will come up with.
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>>378115414
>posting obvious lies
If if you said good games, you'd still be wrong
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It will 1 billion % never ever be called Vita 2. Never. Stop suggesting it.
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Not really. I bought a vita and while I lovei t, the fact they dropped support on it SO fast makes me wary. The japs are still getting tons of games for vita, but they're not being localized. There's no incentive so I'm not blaming localizers but sony put NO marketing behind it, and didn't give any of their first party teams reason to make games for it. There was that uncharted game, katamari damacy, and killzone. I can think of NO other western made games that were worth the time of day. Unit 13 blew ass.
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I can see a PSP2 with a hdmi dock and 900p screen.

The shitposting would be insane.
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>>378115340
Now is the time to release one. Nintendo's switch will fail and the 3ds is ancient
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>>378115618
>goalpost shifting
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>get a vita for weeab shit
>most of weeab shit get ported to PC

i rather regret my purchase
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>>378115550
honestly think of what games were worth playing on the psp

monster hunter was psp's killer app and they're 100% nintendo now.

there is literally no reason to get a sony handheld unless they divide up their developers to work on the handheld.

and if they tell you "OH ITS EASY TO PORT PS4 GAMES TO THIS NEW PSP" that's going to be a fucking lie because they said the same thing about the vita.
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I REALLY hope Sony don't release a new handheld as I hate having the handheld library get split up across platforms.

Just let Nintendo have handheld market so I can own everything on a single platform
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>>378115375
This. I'm a Sonybro but I have a Wii and 3DS and even I think Sony releasing another handheld is ridiculous. If you don't have Monster Hunter there is literally no point, it's a system seller and the reason why the PSP was a huge success.

I often wonder if Monster Hunter released on the Vita how much it would have changed.
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>>378115704
My point was that even if the other anon backpedaled and said "b-but it has more good games" he'd still be lying.
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If they release a handheld, I will buy it IF, and ONLY IF they offer proper SD card support. It's obvious even the proprietary memory didn't serve to stave off piracy. I understand it absolutely crippled the PSP, but making it so impossible to buy games digitally in a market ever-shifting to 100% digital without paying ludicrous prices for ridiculously small amounts of memory was the worst move they could have made.
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>>378115668
>and didn't give any of their first party teams reason to make games for it.
Sony doesn't even make first party games for PS4 anymore. They're more than happy to get their cut from the yearly EA/Ubisoft/Activision rehashes.
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>>378115817
>sd card support to watch movies on

you won't be playing any games on that thing
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>hey we profited
>I KNOW LET'S BLOW IT ON EMOJI AND MAKE OUR OWN HANDHELD FOR THE 3RD TIME
>YEAH THAT WILL SHOW NINTENDO
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>>378115725
GTA sold great on the PSP.

Had Sony gone their way to convince Rockstar to port GTA 4/5 on the Vita I bet things would be a lot different now.
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>>378115875
I could just import games from japan like I did for my vita. Worked pretty well. Then again I'm in the minority for knowing japanese. All the same that would probably be a smart move for them too. Japan loves the vita, why not launch a new handheld there and then IF IT SELLS WELL AND HAS SOME GOOD TITLES, bring it over with a strong launch lineup to shit all over whatever nintendo pushes out to replace the 3DS as a dedicated mobile system.
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Even if it will not beat the Switch competition is always good.

Also I want a new tag force if we get a sony handheld back.
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>>378116029
so is rockstar going to be willing to make a gta game for the playstation switch? they weren't willing to do it for the vita
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If it has propietary memory card bullshit it'll fail just like the vita
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>>378115340

Can we just have a new Soul Sacrifice, portable or not?
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>>378115992
I swear the gaming division must hate the movie division
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Sony should stop their handheld shit. The PSP was good but the vita is fucking pointless. They're only doing it to compete with Nintendo.
Sony should focus on home consoles which they are good at and let Nintendo make handhelds which they are good at.
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>>378115992

Why is Sony so incompetent?
I mean really other giants in gaming like Actiblizz and EA mightb e terrible as fuck for us, but they sure as hell are competent in business.

How come Sony fails to do good, but also fails to capitalize on any opportunities they have?
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>>378116116
Rockstar has a butthurt grudge with Nintendo for over a decade over some stupid bullshit nintendo did with an old game of theirs.

They're spiteful as hell.
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>>378115340
No, that is a stupid idea.
And this is coming from a Vita owner with a 64 GB memory card.
Facts:
>3ds' launch was poor
>Vita had a good amount of launch games
>Nintendo threw everything they had at the 3ds to make it pick up while sacrificing the Wii U
>Sony decided to stop supporting the Vita in favor of the PS4

>Switch is selling extremely well with worse games than Vita's launch

Unless it gets a bloodborne of its own, its literally not going to sell.
Sony doesn't have games that make a console worth owning.
They ain't got mario, smash, pokemon, or monster hunter.
No matter what they will fall behind the switch and the switch already has a huge lead that will only get bigger.
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Sony could easily out do the switch with another handheld. they just need to make it play ps2 and ps3 games digitally. give it regular memory.

That's pretty much it.
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>tfw just bought a vita with a bunch of games
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>>378116116
>>378116231
They made Chinatown wars for the DS. It did not sell.
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>>378116259
PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 Remote play, and a good launch lineup. I guess that would be the only way it would be worth it.
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As much as I'm interested with the product, the only thing I'm hoping for is that they market the damn thing well. It's the reason why the Vita failed, not because the system itself is bad (I find it to be better than the 3DS) but rather, they didn't advertise and market it that well as compared to the PSP.
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>>378116184
Sony being incompetent is the same reason why Nintendo and Microsoft are incompetent.

Old jaded greedy fucks who don't understand that there are people that are willing to buy their systems outside of their own goddamn country.
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It honestly wouldn't surprise. SONY can probably see the writing on the wall: home consoles are dying. They're nothing but shit tier PC rigs now.

Moving into handheld might seem like a good idea for the long term to keel their toe in the video game hardware pool but they're only delaying the inevitable.
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>>378116231
even if they get gta5 or red dead redemption 2 running on the ps switch, who is going to want to play that on a small tablet when they can play it on their tv?

the battery life will also be around the same as the switch 2-3 hours.
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Can we make this a Vita thread if it isn't already? Anyone have an infopic on good games to get?
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>>378116328
that's my point. developers are way less willing to invest in handhelds now
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>>378115340
If it gets bloodborne, gravity rush, yakuza, kh etc I am all in!
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>>378116341
>>378116259
If they announced this I would buy one day one.

>>378116361
It had a terrible launch so they gave up on it. No MH is what killed the launch, and in terms of hardware it shits all over 3DS.
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>>378116259
ps3 emulation is pretty much impossible
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>>378116374

But Nintendo is printing money since forever by selling low-quality toys to hundreds of millions, they are not incompetent at making money.
Microsoft is incompetent because they are simply too big and have too much to fall back on. Too big to fail but also too big to move in any direction.

Sony fails to milk their audience, fails to please their audience, and literally just failed their way to success because the rivals failed even harder for once.
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theres no way sony is stupid enough to do this. the phone market has destroyed the handheld market and they can't compete with nintendo. releasing a vita 2 would be suicide
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>>378116259
Never owned a PlayStation but I'd definitely buy that just to see what's I've missed.
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>>378116259
>Sony could easily out do the switch with another handheld
Old games wouldn't sell a new system. It wouldn't work.
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If it had micro SD and USB c, how many heads would explode?
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>>378116557
Nah, the Wii U was a massive failure and the Switch has the potential to be good but could easily turn into another Wii U. Maybe not as bad as the Wii U, but definitely close.
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>>378115340

Why would they announce the Vita at E3 in America before they announced it in Japan?
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>>378115340
I don't think even Sony is retarded enough to do this.
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>>378116613
>old games wouldn't sell a new system

unless they're nintendo games

honestly who emulates old playstation games?
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>>378116572

Nowadays they'd have a popular twitch streamer with big tits.
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Sony makes better handhelds tbqh. Why isn't there enough support outside Japan?
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>>378116473
>No MH is what killed the launch
I'm not bothered with it, though I know many are, because I actually don't care that much about MH. It's fun I'll give you that but I'm not that much of a fan of the whole "you have to always grind for materials if you want to get good shit" business.
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>>378116613
>Old games wouldn't sell a new system. It wouldn't work.
Tell that to Nintendo with the same game released every year.
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>>378116715
>PSVR
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>>378116748
Companies like EA are guilty of this, not Nintendo.
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>>378116328
Didn't it sell over a million units?

Also, I wish they would make more top down spinoffs that game was pretty good.
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>>378116743
Oh yeah, it's definitely not for everyone, it's targeted towards the eastern audience anyway. But in Japan MH is a system seller.
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Again with this fucking meme.

Get this in your fucking head: there can't be another DS-PSP/3DS-Vita situation anymore because a new Sony handheld would barely be more powerful that Nintendo's current offering. Switch is almost as good as it gets for handheld hardware.
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>>378116692
>Maybe not as bad as the Wii U, but definitely close.
No, not really
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>>378116782
Somehow that shit is actually the only VR headset that's selling. I don't know how considering how fucking expensive and shit it is, but I guess I shouldn't underestimate how retarded the average consumer is. Sony could announce PS5 at E3 for a 2018 release and people would still go out in droves to buy it even after buying a regular PS4, a slim a year later, and a "pro" after that.
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>>378115414
And what good did that for them?
You have to sell them to actually matter.
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>>378116613
I want to give my mushroom to those Marios.
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>>378116748
Fuck off with that bullshit you little crybaby shitstain.
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kek
even if this were to happen, its only good news for Nintendo. Any content that flowed to this would also flow into Switch.
But the "rumors" make it sound like its own thing. Sony wouldnt support it, 3rd parties wouldnt support it, who is it for?
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>>378116861
Ten percent ain't that much. Really.
Honestly, Nintendo just needs to have a fucking library worth buying. But aside from Mario Oddysey nothing fucking interests me, which is why I haven't bought it and likely won't buy it until either when the game comes out, or more likely, next year.
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>>378115607
The PSP had a decent library. The thing is: Hardly anything of it got released in the West.

Now with the Vita, where the situation is the same, it only gets more publicity, because it's failing hard.

Well, at least neither the PSP nor the Vita are region-locked, so "weebs" can have fun with them. Good for them.
There is nothing like getting enjoyment out of a burning sinking ship.
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>>378116361
>Vita
>Not marketed well

What are you talking about? kek

WAN TWO FEE FO

https://youtu.be/jYuImDgYVBk
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>>378116861
Switch's second and third year+ on the market is what will determine if it has staying power and is a success. I would like it to succeed after seeing the Wii U crash and burn, or at the very least have those cunts finally make a Metroid Prime 4.
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>>378116396
People that need to get out of their parents basement for reasons (work, friends, starting an independent life) and people who share TV's (married people).
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>>378115614
If they're any smart, they will come up with a gimmick that does not require any sort of creativity from the gaming industry, just like nintendo did with the switch.
All the previous attempts at new gimmicks (Motion controls, second screen, kinect, VR etc..) required the game industry to be creative and create good software taking advantage of the new ways to control.

But if those last 10 years proven anything, is that counting on the game industry being creative is like counting on Gohan to dodge.
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>>378116724
m-me
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>>378115375
Sony has learned that there's a market for adult handhelds. Ninty won't release adult games on the platform, it's too scared of boobies. Sony will.
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>>378115340
I'd get it. The problem with the Vita wasn't the lack of games necessarily. Sony shot itself in the foot making proprietary memory cards that costed an arm and a leg, including the fact the biggest version of the card only came out in Japan. The Vita is a good piece of tech that got killed before it needed to because of price + memory cards, both really costed too much which drove people away, so no one wanted to make games for it. The games it did have were good, and it's an almost never ending weeb machine which I'm into.
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>>378117029
Wii launched during the holidays so yeah, it's more than it sounds like.
>>378117089
Right now things are looking really good for Nintendo. If their E3 is big like they say I don't see any reason the momentum won't continue.
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>>378117089
>Switch's second and third year+ on the market is what will determine if it has staying power and is a success.

Your post reminds me of /v/ in 2007.
Good old simpler times.
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>>378117089
In 2 years there will be a Switch+ with X2 chip, bigger battery and you know that giant bezel? They'll fill that up with a bigger screen.

We're all getting fucked.
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>>378117148

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they just cpy switch gimmicks 1 to 1 and call it a day.

Sony perpetually seems to think "if we just copy them and do nothing better it'll work".
>Move
>PSVR
>gaming 3D tv
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Honestly I really loved the Vita, but it didn't do well because Sony is just fucking retarded. It didn't have enough "normie" games on it, which was fine with me because I do enjoy awful weeb shit as well as actual good games, but I feel there weren't enough games that appealed to the west. They also fucked themselves over with that stupid fucking expensive ass SD cards. Hopefully if they're trying to do a new handheld they don't do that shit again. Anyway, I don't think it'll be able to beat the switch but if it actually gets some good games and does okay then I'll be happy, I'm and idort so I don't care either way. And please, oh god Sony don't call it "PS Vita 2" that's a shitty name.
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>>378117157
If you can't play actual porn then what's the fucking point?
Also
>scared of boobies
They seem to be more interested in ass anyways.
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>PSP had no games worth playing
>Vita had no games worth playing

Sony has never made a good handheld and their handhelds are pisspoor garbage that only poor people with garbage tastes who can't afford Nintendo handhelds buy.

If they make another one, it'll be a humongous disaster again.
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>>378116847
>Switch is almost as good as it gets for handheld hardware.
HA HA HA

Not even close.
Not to mention all the quality of life features the Vita has over the Switch.

Switch sleep mode is SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
In one night it loses like 10% battery in sleep.
I can take one of my Vita out of sleep that's been asleep for 2 weeks and it has lost almost 0 battery.
Sleep mode being great is important for handhelds too.
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>>378117157
Sony doesn't make adult games, not the ones you are speaking of mostly. Also Boobie Ninjas coming to Switch to make good use of HD rumble.

Sony would literally be wasting whatever money they do have left trying.
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>>378117245
yeah, because we got all new exclusives and shit for new3DS
oh wait
even PS4Pro failed
scorpio will probably too
sooo? why do revisions will be relevant again?
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>>378117089
They can keep momentum straight through 2019. They have Smash and Pokemon in storage waiting, they're safe until 2020
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>>378117324
>Boobie Ninjas coming to Switch to make good use of HD rumble.
1 game
Asuka only

Fucking kek

Next "real" game will be Ps4
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Let me think what is even play on it.... Bloodborne, maybe uncharted HD. Top fucking kek. The switch will already have more games by the end of this year
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>>378117315
too bad Vita is dead
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The only reason why I want another Sony handheld is because without a PSP3, a vast majority of Japan's developers will die off because they will no longer have any place to go.

Considering their history and amount of great games that the japanese industry has produced over the decades, seeing them die off would be a huge loss for gaming overall.
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>>378117340
>3DS
>3DS XL
>2DS
>New 3DS
>New 3DS XL
>New 2DS

Lol. Of course there will be a switch revision bro
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>>378117392
Only to fanboys or casual with awful test.
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Cool, the Vita is the best handheld ever made and definitely amongst the top 5 systems in general.

It's such a fucking beautiful device.
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>>378117404
>a vast majority of Japan's developers will die off because they will no longer have any place to go.
they have tho
>>378117420
of course there will
point is that it won't really matter as much and never be a big deal
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>>378117315
>Vitas best feature is that you don't play it

Kek
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>>378117404
>they will no longer have any place to go.
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>>378117404
>no longer have any place to go
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>>378115725
GTA and God of War were my PSP go tos. Same with Battlefront, resistance retribution, and Peace Walker
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>>378117315
That's one thing I'll give the Vita, I always thought it was crazy how good Vita sleep mode was. I've accidentally left my 3DS on and it was almost dead the next day. Left my Vita at home on accident when I went on vacation for 2 weeks and a half, when I got home I realized I'd accidentally left my Vita on, the shit had almost a completely full battery still.
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>>378117404
Hmm... I wonder where all those AA smaller developers could go?

Hmm... If only there was some sort of new handheld type system on the market?

Hmm.. let me think? Hmm I wonder
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>>378117404
>a vast majority of Japan's developers will die off because they will no longer have any place to go.
kek
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>>378117157
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>>378115340
As much as I would love to see a new PSP, there's very little chance of this happening. Sony had downsized all disivions that don't bring immediate profit. There's no way they'll touch shrinking handheld marker again.
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>>378117404
>they will no longer have any place to go.
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Fucking do it. The switch is actually really good (nice glass screen, 2 sticks, acceptable resolution) but they STILL fucked it up as a """" handheld"""" that's bigger then any normal fucking pocket.
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>>378117443
I have Vita, it's nice machine aside of few moments, but it's really nothing much on it to play. It was my Muramasa and Disgaea machine, that's about all what I used it for.
Compile heart games looked okayish, but they are all the same and I can't live on mediocre fanservice all the time.
Face it, Vita is dead. No support from sony, close to zero support from the west, no decent games from japan - only shovelware mostly.
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>>378115340
Sony barely makes game for their home console, what makes you think they would be stupid enough to try and support a handheld console when they are now about "Next gen Graphics", "Mature storytelling", and being politically correct?
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>>378117487
But it obviously will matter if it can run games better and has a bigger battery.

The PS4 hardware is garbage, the PS4 pro is much better and everyone who bought a PS4 was fucked in the ass basically. New games run like shit on the og system.
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>>378115375
Monster Hunter will be exlusive for Vita 2

i know it
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>>378117601
If it's focus is on PS2 emulation it can happen, play ps2, ps1, psp, ps vita games and optimized PS3 games with PS4 remoteplay with free online with a nice design I'll buy it over the Switch anyway. I want proper dq8 and P3 FES portable more than I want modern titles.
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>>378117315
That's actually true though. You can't have a device more powerful than it if you want more than that 3 hours of battery life. And if you could do that, you'd end up with an actual tablet which would be 8 or 9 inches in screen size and too heavy to play comfortabley as a handheld
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>>378117512
>>378117505
>>378117487
>>378117563
>>378117580
>>378117607

Switch isn't a viable platform because it's too expensive to put games on for most of Japan's developers. This is why they continue to stay on the Vita and will stay there as long as possible due to the low costs of development as well as how easy it is to sell 10,000 copies and make a profit.

This is why we see most of Japan's small to mid tier studios avoid Nintendo platforms because they cannot compete with the large AAA titles that are regularly found there as well as Nintendo's draconian policies that stopped them from releasing the games on the platform in the first place.

At least there's mobile and PC as their last resort before they die off.
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>>378115749
this, literally this. I don't want to spend money on another console just to play 2 games.
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>>378115340
No, because Sony is out of date and will do ancient practices like charge for proprietary memory cards and overcharge for hardware instead of sell at a loss to build a player base and make money off licensing and later hardware, like everyone else in the industry does. They still think people will buy anything they make and they're going to make the Vita 2 flop
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>>378117624
>Glass screen

U wot m8?
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>>378117690
I wish the Vita had remote play with the PS3.
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>>378115992
Who the fuck at Sony thought it was a good idea to merge the fucking two? Where is the fucking business sense?
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>>378117736
>Nintendo's draconian policies that stopped them from releasing the games on the platform in the first place
Sure, sure. That's why we have Vrooom in the night sky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7S6gZapbwg
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>>378117669
>But it obviously will matter if it can run games better and has a bigger battery.
battery will mater. no argument here. not for me personally cause I rarely leave much. but yeah, it will. So if you are on the move waiting for revision will be good idea
>run games better
I kinda doubt that. Only example with New3DS is Hyrule warriors and that's it, rest is just better loading times.
Considering that revisions not happen quickly - developers really care way too little to adjust games for them - as we can see by PS4Pro and Switch. It's too rare case to happen to bother.
>>378117736
switch has cheapest devkit out there.
and "putting games on it" is same shit for every platform out there
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>>378117631
How dose it feel to be such a ignorant Nintendo cock sucker? Probably bought a Switch day one as well, such a stupid fuck
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>>378117736
>Switch isn't a viable platform because it's too expensive to put games on for most of Japan's developers
bullshit

> This is why we see most of Japan's small to mid tier studios avoid Nintendo platforms because they cannot compete with the large AAA titles
retarded bullshit
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>>378117761
3ds is plastic screen. Switch is glass. Glass > plastic unless you're with children then glass can cut bad and plastic not so much and Nintendo is for children but I'm not a child so glass is better than plastic for me.
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>>378117798
It dose but only a small selection of games. I played ICO and SOTC on my vita lol
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>>378117736
Switch runs unity, it's piss easy to develop something for it. The only reason anyone is still avoiding the switch is because it's the launch year and some developers are still fearing a WiiU situation
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>>378115401
kek'd
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>>378117736
But Nintendo have been working much closer with smaller and indie companies recently. They had an entire indie direct like a month ago. I can see them getting all AA Japan 3rd party soon because switch is going to explode in popularity there and 3DS/Vita is on the way out
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>>378117858
I'm idort and I'm waiting for Xenoblade 2 bundle, as long it won't suck balls. Why I would need console on launch? I'm not and idiot.
Too busy playing SRW V now.
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>>378117624
You think Sony wouldn't make it the exact same size?

>>378117736
>Sony
>ever making a console cheaper than Nintendo's competing model
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>>378117505
>>378117512
>>378117580
>>378117607
If those small japanese developers could possibly develop their games on nintendo's consoles everything would already be on 3DS retards
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>>378117868
Switch has a plastic screen.
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>>378116748
T>ell that to Nintendo with the same game released every year.

Have a single fact to back that up?
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>>378117868
The switch screen is plastic, anon. Lol
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>>378117868
Its a plastic screen. Which is a good thing, shits pretty tough.
Just put a tempered glass screen protector on it and you're fucking indestructible for the life of the system.
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>>378117948
Wrong. Nintendo has changed everything how they approach, market, and create games. Not to mention they support modern engines and even learned how they work so they could help developers.
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I love my vitas
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>>378117947
>ever making a console cheaper than Nintendo's competing model

They could just go with a similar but altered design and just used better tech that has gotten cheaper and more accessible than it was when planning the Vita

Sell it for 259.99 msrp
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>Sony releases a PS4 Slim with a built in screen and an HDMI"dock"
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>>378115340
>the whole entire nintendo defense force full of 12 year olds is here.

dont you have WAHOOing to do?
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>>378117962
>>378117994
>>378118020
So why does the switch's screen look way more slick than the 3DS's?
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>>378117369
moving goalpost
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>>378118040
How about you load me up on a list of top quality games fuckboy so I know what to buy. All google gives me is the same two or three games.
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>>378117948
The 3DS had two screens and both were absolute shit. Every 3DS game had to have at least a token second screen functionality in it. Not to mention the system itself is underpowered as fuck.

The Switch is a portal WiiU, maybe even slightly better, and better when docked. That's a massive fucking leap from the 3DS, not to mention it doesn't have two screens to work around or spending half of one of those screens for 3D functionality.

I liked the two screen approach in the DS line and the WiiU. Some good, creative game designs came from those. But it's clear they didn't really mesh with the larger ecosystem.
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>>378118074
just a nicer plastic screen.
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>>378118074
Because the 3ds screen is literally terrible.
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>>378117947
>>378117925
>>378117916
>>378117863
>>378117856
>>378117842
http://www.nariyukigame.com/archives/49199435.html

>This from a chat I had with a certain developer a while back.

>Right now, 50k is said to be a very high target for game sales in Japan. This goes for both Vita and 3DS, though it's much harder for the latter, considering the 3DS's audience.

>Reasons why the Vita is easy to release games for include the fact that profits can begin at as little as 5k sales (even lower if you want, but that would enter digital-only indie game territory). On top of that, the ease of re-printing, shipping speed, and the convenience of the PSN's digital distribution are all among reasons why it's favored.

>Of course, there are 3DS games that can make a profit at 10k. But if a 3DS game doesn't sell at least half a million, it often ends up getting completely ignored. The fans who've come to expect and will only ever talk about games which sell a million have created an atmosphere among devs where most proposals for new 3DS projects get rejected.

>Meanwhile, Vita continues to get games that sell 10k-20k, games that hit their target are praised, and this directly fuels developers' motivation, not only to create direct sequels but also new ongoing series, like the Genkai Tokki series from Compile Heart. PS+ also brings attention and advertising to old games, and is surprisingly a very beneficial system from the dev's perspective.

>It's true that a million sales is impressive, but it's not attainable with just the effort of the staff. It needs the power of news sites, mass media, and the internet. An astronomical amount of money is in motion.

>Which is why many devs instead continue to aim for that 50k.

So far we havent see Japanese developers jumping onto the Switch at all and until then it's reasonable to expect the same policies they had for the 3DS still applies to the switch and thus will alienate the vast majority of Japan's developers except the AAA ones.
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>>378118040

I also love my Vitas!

It's honestly way better than Switch as a system
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>>378118074
It's like 4x the resolution and a good few inches bigger.

The 3DS came out in 2011 the screen is obviously going to be better my man.

I don't have a switch but it's good to hear the screens nice. My systems in the mail right now
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>>378115340
How about this idea: release a low priced handheld for in home streaming of PS4 games, but without an ability to play the games of its own.This is one of the most under-appreciated Vita features and playing P5 on my bed is maximum comfy. It needs to be saved from inevitable Vita's death.

The device could be really cheap, as there's no need for extra storage and processor power. Perhaps give it a higher res screen to make it look modern.

I know it's not the PSP replacement we want but I think this is what makes sense for Sony to make from a business standpoint.
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>>378118095
There was never a goalpost to start with in reference to what I said, retarded parrotman
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>>378118132
Literally all this means is we won't see fucking cheap garbage like a billion visual novels on switch.

No developer should be making a game with the goal of selling 5,000 copies. That screams cheap fucking shit. The Vitas library is exactly that.
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>>378117945
Western support for handhelds have always been pseudo console ports and completely irrelevant to the taste of modern handheld users and Sony supported the Vita with a lot of good original games, much better than Nintendo did by relying on N64 ports and literal mario shovelware for the first years. It has more third party support on going than Switch and I don't consider compile heart or valkyria drive shit real games. You're just being uneccesarily ignorant about the Vita because its easy to shit on but it's not a joke when you're itching to drop bucks on aanother literal port machine with even fewer games and support than the Vita.

First party support means dick especailly if it's garbage like Nintendos support for 3DS considering 99% of the wortwhile games to play on a system are third party games to begin with.
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i want a handheld that could play PS1, PS2, and PS3 games on.
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>>378118146
I'm jealous! Can't afford one right now but I have a shitload of digital titles from various PSN sales waiting in the wings
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>>378118132
>So far we havent see Japanese developers jumping onto the Switch at all
Except all the big companies, several smaller ones and Monster Hunter? Except all of those? The Vita is dead. Get over it.
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>>378118132
>IT'S TO EXPENSIVE TO PUT GAMES ON SWITCH GUYZ
>link to interview which doesn't talk about it at all
anon, put more effort in this. Also do you really expect stream of games for 2 month's old console?
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>>378118132
>Using obsolete information about an older console
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>another Sony handheld
NEVER
EVER
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>>378117759
Nintendo doesn't ever sell at a loss and has proprietary bullshit.
But it's okay when Nintendo does it, right friendo?

As a side note the PS4 and 3 were sold at a loss so I think you're just retarded.
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how hackable is a Vita and can I pirate all the games?
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>>378118053
>only $499 US dollars :^)
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>>378118101

Right now on my updated FW playing what was given on ps+ before it expires. Not gonna renew. Steamworld heist was fun and was pretty surprised with how well ultra velocity was. Wasn't a fan of don't starve. Tearaway was a nice simple game but nothing to go crazy for. Of course, everyone mentions p4g. The lists online are shit because they're normie lists that play the same 8 games recommended on other normie lists. Valkyrie, gravity Rush, freedom wars, soul sacrifice, Wipeout, p4g, Olli Olli 2, just a few games I can remember right now being enjoyable.
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>>378118258
>Sony supported the Vita with a lot of good original games
Such as? How many beyond the release period?
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>>378118347
not anymore, friend
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>>378118347
>Nintendo has proprietary bullshit
Not anymore. Micro SD and USB C. On the switch. That was the push which made me seriously consider getting one.
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>>378118256
People like you are the reason why most of Japan's developers cannot exist on Nintendo platforms, people who expect a game to be heavily marketed with the best of everything just to sell well.

I care about Japan and their developers big and small and I want them to continue whatever they make without restricting them.
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>>378118258
yet first party support kept 3DS alive while Vita is dead.
Sony just never cared. They put system on the market, and let 3rd party decide that case.
3rd party jumped onto mobile and rendered Vita useless. Sony just ignored the issue until Vita stopped selling. Not to mention that initial focus on touch screen was a shit move.
Sony supported shit. They didn't do a single thing for Vita.
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>>378118374
Freedom wars looks fun but Sony owns that shit right?
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>>378118354
Very hackable. Insanely easy. Literally visit a website and its hacked.

You need to be on a certain firmware lower than 3.61
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>>378118374
You're doing me a service chenposter. Did you play any of the dungeon crawlers? I only know of Demons Gaze being fun.
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>>378118258
Switch and the 3DS at this point has a massive library of amazing games ever compared to the garbage heap that is the PSP and the Vita.
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>>378118473
I might buy one then. could be fun.
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>>378118273
>Can't afford one right now
Unless you NEED to play BotW immediately, it's not really that worth it yet.
The system has a future with Atlus just like the 3DS so I'm not worried about having bought it.

>>378118256
>That screams cheap fucking shit. The Vitas library is exactly that.

Since when do games need to be high budget to be good?
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>>378118401
The 3DS had SD support. The fucking Wii had SD card support. Meanwhile the Vita had a proprietary memory card. It still boggles my mind.
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>>378118473

You HAVE to be on 3.60. You can find them easy on eBay or just buying any sealed vita.

Hacked Vita is a godsend.

Ps1
PSP
Vita
Steam streaming via moonlight
PS4 remote play
Gba
Nes
Snes
Neo Geo
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>>378118489
Not him, but Dungeon Travelers 2. Doesn't matter if excessive fanservice is your thing or not, the gameplay is great
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>>378118383
>>378118445

Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway, Gravity Rush, Freedom Wars, Sony supported the Vita and it was fucking 10x better than shovelware Nintendo made like 3D Land, Steel Divers, Codename Steam, Petris or whatever shovelware Nintendo tried to make while realizing it literally cant do anything else beside market N64 ports and make mario games.
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>>378118498
hey, vita may have meh library, but don't insult PSP nigga
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>>378118558
There's a distinction between "mid-low budget AA games" and "we're just shooting for 5,000 units." A 5,000 unit game could be good, but the vast majority of them aren't going to have the level of effort you'd want even in a low budget game.
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>>378118558
Not a Switch you silly. I've wanted a Vita since they came out
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>>378118113
Yeah, obviously the screen is the primary reason why most small japanese companies would develop games only for the system that sold way, way less than the 3DS
We'll see for the switch, but I'm not confident at all
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>>378118592
I heard about that one, I'll give that a go too.
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>>378118520
If you're an anime weeaboo fan then the Vitas a must have.

I'm not so it's been pretty underwhelming for me. But it runs emulators very well so I use it to play tons of beat em ups.
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>>378118498
Switch is a literal port machine with no games, don't try cosy up to it like the weak faggot you are.
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>>378118613
and yet the 3DS is still alive with more games coming to it while the Vita hasn't gotten a game worth playing for years.
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>>378115340
>rumor
yeah not gonna happen just like Monster Hunter on the ps4 rumor
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>>378118613
Sony didn't support the Vita at all.
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>>378118489

I'll be honest and say it's a new genre for me. My whole life I grew up on platformers, racers and when I was ij 8th grade when Halo ce came out, I pretty much got stuck in fps for a few years. Just the last two years I started trying new genres, specially arpgs. I'll be giving that game a try soon as dungeon crawlers look really interesting.

Any games you could recommend me?
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>>378118685
Switch has zero ports on it, kill yourself for spreading misinformation like the garbage dumb sony poster who knows their time is up.
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>>378118676
>Uppers

Wat. Is that import?
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>>378118613
For 2 years then completely abandoned the system. Fucking pathetic how anyone can support this company after that.
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>>378118060
>Crash coming back
>Realize Sonyfanboys aren't safe from BOING BOING! CRACK! OOOGA BOOGA! WHOA!

Prepare your anus in the next 3 months
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>>378115340
> rumors

more likely bullshit spread from /v/ and somehow clickbait journalist found it
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>>378118659
I wish you good luck in your search
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>>378118613
>only 4 games
>2 of them are bad monhun wannabees, other 2 are okay
yeah, right
that's a lot of support.
and then NUTHIN'
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>>378118401
Yeah those game carts sure are universally used.
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>>378118763
Hacked Vita mate. Uppers also has a English fan translation. Bretty gud
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>>378118738
All I know is Demons Gaze and I only knew about that because of the music. I haven't had a Vita in a long time but I sold my old one at profit long ago because I knew I could get one at literally any time for cheap.
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>>378118613
>Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway, Gravity Rush, Freedom Wars
All good games. I only asked because I've literally never heard anyone try to defend what Sony did to the Vita.

>10x better than shovelware Nintendo made like 3D Land, Steel Divers, Codename Steam, Petris
Of course, this is obviously ignoring Nintendo supported the 3DS a hell of a lot more than that throughout its lifespan and is largely continuing to do so even into the Switch's launch.
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>>378118826
they had no choice there, you cant put a disc drive in a handheld like that.
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>playstation portable
>playstation vita
>playstation vita 2

??? If anything sony would probably try to distance themself from the vita and call it the PSP2 or something.
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>>378118764

It's more pathetic to have brand loyalty and choose one company over another. Idort here. I enjoy the best all the companies have to offer since I don't limit myself.

I'm also pretty shocked to see games still coming out on Vita.
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>>378118849
Does it have great music?
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>>378115448
Realistically speaking, Nintendo still has an irrelevant niche to most people who play games and is always a secondary choice.

Good for people obsessing with their stocks though, it doesn't seem to be helping with the games.
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PSP had UMDs and Vita had those Memory Card bullshit. What will the new system have to piss everyone off?
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>>378118047
>Implying it won't cost $500 due to a bunch of shitty tacked on features nobody asked for
>Implying that you won't on top of that need to spend another $100 on their proprietary memory format in order to get at LEAST 32GB
Remember, the PS4 was an accident and Sony are run by fucking idiots.
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>>378115340
A cheap Remote Play-only machine for streaming PS4 games to decouple the functionality from dead Vita.
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If the product was a literal PS4 Portable, would you get it? All software compatible.
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>>378115607
Naw, the PSP was awesome and had tons of games.

The Vita lesser so, but it is better than the current 3DS, more games too.
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>>378118826
Fucking seriously? Are you trying to argue that the cartridges are some how a proprietary con here on the level of proprietary memory cards and chargers? The only real problem to them is the increased expense in production, but this >>378118890 is still true. Not to mention, even discs are "proprietary" since you can only ever normally use them in the console they're for anyway. No console has a "non-proprietary" media for their games. This is the stupidest thing to whine about, especially considering the Vita also used cartridges that couldn't be used on any other system.

Digital Downloads are a thing nowadays too, which you can then put on your non-proprietary SD card.
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>>378119032

Seeing how receptive Sony has been already and how well switch was received due to USB c and micro SD, I'm sure they'd go the same route.

Plus, isn't it all universal now to go with USB c? Even apple, of all companies, is doing it.
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>>378119032
PSP also had proprietary memory cards
they were just big enough for people to make adapters
>PSP had UMDs and Vita had those Memory Card bullshit. What will the new system have to piss everyone off?
always online and all games are streamed on it
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>>378119095
not possible so no
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>>378119115
Doesn't apple have their own lightning cable?
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>>378118930
>I'm also pretty shocked to see games still coming out on Vita.

desu you shouldnt be, Sony systems always get long term support by third party,
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>>378119147
Except you're full of shit. The Memory Stick Duo was Sony's answer to SD Cards, they used it in fucking everything including cameras so it was still an affordable option. The Vita had a format only used by Vita and inflated to all fucking hell
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>>378115340
>It will be the exact same fucking concept as the Switch
>Everything Sonygs have shitted on the Switch for will be praised
>"You can play with friends by splitting the controller! Wow!"
>"The two separate controllers in a grip acts and feels like a proper controller"
>"Look at all the exclusives coming out in the first year"
>"Remasters of Bloodborne and TLOU 2 so you can play them on the go? Sony wins again baby!"
>"And lots of indie games too, so I can play them between the big releases"
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>>378119173

No, new devices, iPhones, even their MacBooks, use USB c. Had to fucking setuo a MacBook for our marketing department and buy a USB c adapter. Awesome thing is it had power, HDMI out and USB ports all running from one USB c port.
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>>378119102
>but it is better than the current 3DS
in terms of current library? no

in terms of build quality, longevity, on-going third party support, genre variety, hardware quality? yes certainly
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>>378118951
It's pretty interesting, a lot of the tracks are accompanied by IA (a vocaloid voice who also happens to be a DLC character). I find games with a nice battle theme are worth holding out for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xsu0M1G5xM
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>>378118930
GOAT game
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>>378118693
The Vita has more games coming than the 3DS still. What's "worth playing" seems to be a personal bias issue. I haven't used my 3DS since SMT Final which was trash.

You likely enjoy Artoon shovelware and those quick buck games Nintendo relegates shit studios to make.
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>>378119089
Would buy if it costs < $100

>>378119231
Thankfully they still included SD card option in their cameras. Can't even imagine the price of a 128GB MS Pro t. NEX-7 owner
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>>378115340

nah i have a switch already
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>>378119231
Hm. I never actually knew that. Thank you for correction, anon.
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Sony does what Nintendoes.
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>>378116748
Same characters different gameplay.
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>>378119323

I found the cartridge a couple of weeks ago after I thought u lost it. Hadn't played since 2008. That shit blew my.mind realizing how long ago that was.

I didn't get far into the game back then because the mechanics confused the fu k out of me. I wasn't big into RPGs then. Now I'm loving the game and hoping to complete it soon
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>>378115505
They definitely know why they succeeded with the PS4. They capitalized entirely on Xbox fucking themselves with online only and Nintendo becoming irrelevant to home consoles with the Wii U.
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>>378119298
Thats wrong though.

The latest iphone uses apples own lightning cable, in fact it doesn't even have a headphone port, you either gotta get a lightning adapter or use their bluetooth airpods.
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>>378119115
Apple also has that shitty headphone thing now. Also Sony has ALWAYS tried to force their different parts of their company into their systems.
>PSX
CD
>PS2
DVD
>PS3
Bluray
>PS4/Pro
4K TV
>PSP
UMD
>Vita
Seem like in the end (at least in the west) was trying to sell PS4 with remote play.
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>>378119305
Yes.
The 3DS library died down completely in its third year. You literally have to enjoy shit like Kirby along with simple children's games and low-tier weeb stuff with budgets smaller than phone games to get something from it.

The drop off past year 2 for it was extremely excessive. Nothing like Revelations or Kid Icarus was even made, it became an extensive budget and port machine. Funny enough, most ports were DS games to which it could play, along with N64 games.
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>>378119478

No, 1+1 like that is beyond sony

>“It’s just beyond our imagination. We are so happy. But I for one am a bit nervous because we do not completely understand what’s happening,” said Yoshida in an interview with Eurogamer.
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>>378119485

Huh, thanks for correcting! I could've sworn they used USB c. I might've gotten confused with a pixel I recently configured
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>>378119485

How the hell did people accept having to have phone-to-jack adapters again?

It feels like only yesterday when I and everyone else was still bitching about having to buy these things for every brand of phone...
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>>378119612
>How the hell did people accept having to have phone-to-jack adapters again?
applefans accept anything
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>>378119491

At least they didn't force us to use mini discs. I did love my mini disc player, though.
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>>378119660

But what is the benefit here?
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>>378117157
>greasy otaku-pandering drivel
>adult
Oh please, that shit's for kids in puberty, at best
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>>378119612
I think iphones come with lightning earphones, but if you wanna use your own, yeah need an adaptor.

iphones might come with an adapter or not, I dunno, I don't use them.

>>378119569
the laptops MIGHT use USBc not totally sure though.
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>>378119612
Didn't Apple eventually cave into backlash and include the adaptor with the phone?
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>>378119540
AA6 and DQ7 Remake were nice released and I like harvest moon games and most Level 5 stuff.
But
Vita getting YS Vii, Danganronpa 3, Tokyo Xandu, Summon night 6, Chaos;Child........hmmm

I guess since Vita has Dragonquest Builders (my most favourite game of this gen) and Pokemon being a shitshow, I would actually call it a tie but I find it deeply saddening no one would share this point of view
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>>378119706

Let's parts for them to install on their devices? Apple has always been about removing hardware and forcing their clients to use other means to interface. Remember the removal of Cd drive and how everyone lost their shit? Now I can't think of a laptop I've bought in 13 years that has had a CD drive
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>>378119706
You can show off your latest apple shit at Starbucks
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>>378118146
Neon Switch looks so fucking good
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>>378119706
Apples dick travels a few inches further inside them.
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>>378119768
But why would be okay with this?

>>378119782
That is not much better when theres no reason for the adapter to exist
>take out a feature and sell as an extra/give away in a separate device

>>378119803
That doesn't need an adapter

>>378119836
Reasonable, I guess.
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>>378119612
Because Applefags have a bad fixation on blind loyalty. I worked at a call center for Apple and despite all of my workmates making jokes about shit iPhones were and how the lack of headphone jack was a mistake, all of them who had iPhones upgraded to the 7 without thinking.
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>>378119808

I'm not a fan of bright colors on devices like that. I saw my friends all black switch and fell in love. But when I held it, I just couldn't get past that overly palstic feel and I also hated how you could feel the switch bending in the connections from controllers to device.

I'd buy one if they made it with non-detachable controllers. Just one solid device
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>>378119791
See again the issue is AA games have phone releases tier shortly to the 3DS ones, Level 5 already moved most of its stuff to phones like Fantasy Life with online play. I agree with DQ, but again, that was like 1st year in Japan and its kind of a lazy remake overall and still not really an original title.
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>>378117157
What did they learn that from? The massive flop that was the vita? Or the fact they got fucking destroyed by ds with the psp? There is no market for sony handhelds
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>>378119929
Just buy a normal one and never undock it.
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>>378119791
>Dragonquest Builders
The game was great but I wish the game didn't drop sub-30 fps at times
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>>378119959

But the point of it is to take it on the go
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>>378119914

This is kind of worrying, I mean atleast before they got fucked in the ass because they didn't know better, or didn't care because some benefit (even if completly vanity based like phone-thinness or something) came from it.

But this is just kind of retarded, I assume you cannot even charge the phone while using a headphone if theres only one port, no?
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>le MH is only on le nintendo

Capcom have said several times they want to expand their consoles outside of Nintendo. So a more powerful handheld/hybrid like Vita 2, with no region locking, will be much better.

Vita lost due to no Pokemon or MH. It had great games but nobody played them. Vita was more powerful, felt better to hold (ergos) and was NOT FUCKING REGION LOCKED.
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>>378119791
Builders developers talked about thinking of porting Builders to Switch. Since to them Nintendo has always done well for Dragon Quest and Builder is a great kids game. As for the rest of them they are all coming on PS4 as well if I remember right. I enjoy my Vita but it really doesn't have much in the way of exclusives that I say that it's worth owning for.
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>>378118930
It's more pathetic that there are fanboys than for a company to sell a product and abandon it?

You're delusional as fuck.
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>>378120019
Oh I get you now, yeah I can understand that want.
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>>378120045
There's still MH5, which may just extend to every platform. I dunno why they are so hung up on 4 and rehashing X.

They really know how to milk that shit, and the quality of XX is so god damn low.
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>>378120035
But why charge and use headphones at the same time? If you want to do that, you could just buy the new AIRPODs instead :^))BUYBEATS))))))
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>>378118890
>What are SD cards
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>>378120045
They didn't say that. They were talking about Handheld in the west and how it's not a big seller for big IP like MH. Switch could be enough of a hybrid to be what Capcom likes. And portable system for Japan and love their local play and west that love their couch play.
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>>378120045
>So a more powerful handheld/hybrid like Vita 2, with no region locking, will be much better.
It'd just lose again anyway
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>>378120112

>fell in love with MH on MHFU
>tfw by the time the game gets to an okay platform again it has turned into complete shit
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>>378119914
Interesting. I'm develop for iOS for living but my personal phone has always been Android based. There are just so many stupid underlying limitations on iPhones that I can't be bothered to deal with. It probably doesn't matter to a regular user, but I love installing apps from unofficial sources, direct access to file system, ability to run services in the background and interaction between apps.
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>>378116396

I'd get gtav for switch, red dead for ps4 because it looks like a game I'd want to be as pretty as possible.
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>>378120140

This whole thing just makes me feel like I wanna implode or something, if I tried to express the feeling in words I'd come off as the cringiest edgiest school shooter type.
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>>378119890
>That is not much better when theres no reason for the adapter to exist
I didn't defend it at all, I was wondering if it was even included. If they wanted to go full jew, they would have sold that separately as well. That's bullshit how you have to pay for an adaptor to use headphones that aren't the ones included.
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>>378120239

I was gonna use an iPhone 7 for a few days to see how I like it. Within five minutes of having it I went to /v/ and saw that iOS doesn't support webm. I'm just gonna keep dumbphoneposting from my s7
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>>378115448
>see image
>mentions MH
>yesyesyesyes
>google search
>MHXX for Switch
>YESYESYESYES

I fucking called this too, god this day just became amazing.
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>>378120307

Honestly, if they didn't do that yet, I'd expect them to just do it in the next iteration of iphones.
Babysteps
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>>378120045
So can you name me five games that will want me to go and rush out to buy a Vita right now?
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>>378120286
I once convinced someone to buy an Apple Watch even though that wasn't my job. The dribble this dude was spewing is immaculate, although I think all smartwatches are dumb.
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>>378120324

Is there still not even an app that could browse this shithole with webms?

Honestly I've been thinking of buying some older model or the SE since call quality is good and I don't use my phone for much else, but it'd annoy the shit out of me on those rare occasions I do browse this shithole on my phone.
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>>378119553
Fucking retards, every e3.

>people waiting for games
>waiting for gameplay
>only show cgs
>TV
>ORDER PIZZA WITH YOUR VIDEOGAME
>WATCH TV
>DVDS
>BLU RAYS
>TV

WHY DID WE NOT SUCCEED???

I'll buy this new Vita if they remove the unnecessary garbage and make it play PS4 games because I don't have and won't ever buy a PS4, I only every play with PC + handhelds

Also, has anyone EVER used Vita's or 3DS's camera? Why make the fucking thing more expensive putting it there?
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>>378120184
Isn't the latest figure has Pokemon Sun/Moon selling 15 million?

What's funny is how news outlets kind of treat Pokemon in the same vain as CoD or AC. Just another yearly series that sells a shit ton. But really Pokemon is in a league of it's own. Where CoD and other yearly series can only really sell the same game Pokemon at least has a shit ton of side games all around that plays around with the IP.
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>>378115340
If it has the games that i want then sure
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>>378120331
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>>378120519
>Why make the fucking thing more expensive putting it there?

Why put it on there when it has the clarity of a dumbphone from 2006?
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>>378120184
It doesn't need to win, it needs to be competitive.

If it can play PS4 games I'll buy it.
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>>378120519
>I only every play with PC + handhelds
>That smug reaction pic

PC + 3DS or PC + 3DS + Vita?

I need to know how much vidiya you've missed out on
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>>378117270

They're not completely wrong. As much as Sony shills cry about Nintendo shills, Sony shills seem to be more in number. They'll say the switch is garbage and just an iPad and "my phone is more powerful" etc, but as soon as Sony releases a switch it will be "Nintendo btfo, Sony releases best handheld ever!"

They'll probably start port begging too because they'll "want to be able to play wherever".
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>>378120701
PC + PSP + DS + PSV + N3DS
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>>378120725
>They'll say the switch is garbage and just an iPad and "my phone is more powerful" etc, but as soon as Sony releases a switch it will be "Nintendo btfo, Sony releases best handheld ever!"
It's true. Someone post the fucking image.
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>>378120397
Well I can post 5 games that I bought, played and enjoyed. But Vita was also great due to being able to play PS1/PSP titles. I could buy Vita and PSP games which was very useful.

Vita, once again, had plenty on offer but didn't have MH or Pokemon so people went with 3DS/2DS because they wanted those.
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>>378120652
>it needs to be competitive.
Against Dragon Quest. Monster Hunter, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Splatoon 2, Zelda, Mario, Smash, and Mario Kart and several others? There's no competing with that, Vita 2 or PSP 2 would flop even harder than the Vita.
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>>378120725

They are completely wrong, just like you if you think the shilling/falseflagging/shitposting here is any kind of measure to what is happening IRL.
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>>378120781
PC hasnt had a worthwhile game in years though and is just a glorified port machine with less games than wiiU and PS4
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>>378120832
I don't know how Sony managed to fuck this up.

Put MH on vita, everyone and their mothers would buy the vita version because MH on 3DS looks like shit.

Seriously, how did sony managed to fuck this up?

And now DQ isn't even on the vita lmao.
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>>378120916
>And now DQ isn't even on the vita lmao.
I mean it does have 3 DQ games, even if they aren't main ones.
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>>378120781
mah nigga
>>378120880
PC has plenty of decent games, you just shit at finding them
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>>378120851
Again, if the handheld enables me to play PS4 games on the go thats all I need.

Bloodborne, DS3, new FromSoft games on the go is enough reason for me to buy it desu.

Also Nier Automata, Witcher 3, Persona 5, Nioh on the go... a man can dream...
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>>378120916

>tfw you bought a Vita thinking "they couldn't be so stupid as to not get MH on it"
>then after year+ of disappointment you sold it and bought a 3ds
>but its too shit to enjoy the game on it and all other games are nintendo weeb trash
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>>378120880
>PC hasn't had a worthwhile game in years though
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>>378120916
Really makes you think.

They only had to do this for the Vita to succeed, the success brought by MH autists would up the sales and audience, making more people want to dev for the vita.

What was sony thinking?
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>>378121047
I get that's what you want but it's never going to happen. Plus, if you want third party support it's coming to Switch anyway.
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>>378120787
I didn't bother to save the thread where people were, only ironically I desperately hope, lauding Sony making most of its money through its online service. Perhaps I should have. We've gone from people shitting on Microsoft's paid online, defending Sony's, then laughing about Sony making so much money on it. Absolutely fucking disgusting.

Wish I had the less distractingly memetastic version of this.
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>>378121251
Maybe they just didn't want the Vita to succeed for some reason.
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>>378115340
>Sony so desperate they shit out more hardware everytime Microsoft or Nintendo do something
lel
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>>378121269
>Absolutely fucking disgusting.

You mean fucking hilarious lmao
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>>378121313

Maybe Sony just did what Sony does.
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I really like the Vita but how can I buy a Vita 2 without trusting they'll actually support it?
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>>378117157
>scared of boobies

But there's a Senran Kagura game coming with the HD sync that simulates touching boobs.
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>>378121389
The only way I see this succeed is for Vita2 to have PS4 game support.

Because doing that they can only support the PS4 and make it easy somehow to port to the Vita2, it would be a success imo.
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>>378116692
>Switch has the potential to be good but could easily turn into another Wii U. Maybe not as bad as the Wii U, but definitely close.

The Switch is well past the danger point. It is going to be spectacular.
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>>378121534
That makes sense when competing with the Switch, maybe there's hope.
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>>378115340
God I hope so. There's like a billion ways for this to fail and few reasons for it not to end up like another dud. The biggest reason it would fail is unironically the PS4. You'd have to go full digital (RIP in peaces) or make a separate library (because that worked great with the Vita) and divert resources from PS4 again during a time when Microsoft is attempting their little revival and Switch is selling well. It wouldn't have much of a power gap this time around unless they go full 599.99 US DOLLARS again too.
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>>378121389
>>378121534

>the PSP would've been good if it ran PS2 games!
>hurr the Vita will run PS3 games!!!
>the only way this'll be good if it runs PS4 games!!!

God you people never learn do you?
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>mfw it's back to Nintendo vs Sony console wars.

When you get out of the trenches you realize Xbox has finally fucked off and died but their cancerous practices such as paid online are still here. Industry is healthier now though, Japanese games being fought over, Japanese hardware paltforms competing, relevance for Japanese games is returning. Nintendo and Sony fans shitting up the place. Good.

Take sides clowns and let me enjoy the the best games :)
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>>378115340
Not after what Vita was.
They should just expand on the greatness that "my nigga" PSP was and have cfw and mh game ready on day one.
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>>378122180
The switch plays console games, are you retarded senpai?

Also if the Vita could play PS2 games it would have a huge library of good games.
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>>378115340
>believing journalists publishing unsourced rumors
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>>378122341

>the switch plays switch games because its home-console counterpart is itself

Are YOU retarded?
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>>378122341
>The switch plays console games
Atrociously, at that.
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>>378119023
Dat passive aggressive denial
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>>378115601
I wish I that thing could have succeeded. I ended up getting one on clearance from Target for 18.98 last year and have used it once. The lack of netflix made it pointless for a streaming device for me. Then I had no interest in streaming my PS4 in another room and it encounters issues with audio if your PS4 is connected to a receiver or HT network.

On top of that, it still had memory cards that were shit and a smaller list of games. Fuck, it could have been great. But I even regret buying that shit for 20USD.
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>>378122286

>Classic Sony vs Nintendo brings a resurgence of Nip exclusives
>PC games reaps the benefits of a dying xbox brand all while older Nip companies like Sega & Capcom are finally warming up to PC ports


How did we win so much?
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>>378116341
This. Making this a way to play everything from the PS library would make it wildly successful and beat Nintendo in terms of quantity of content.
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>>378120331
im so confused... why are people cumming in their pants over a port? yes we all like the MH games, but it's another port.

when MH5 comes to the switch then you faggots can start cheering and acting smug
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>>378122598
It's a good time for gaming, I don't think we were smart enough to cause this but we can support it with our bucks. At the end of it all, we will realize we hit another small golden age, not as big as before but it's nothing to write off. We just need to learn to come out of the trenches and appreciate it from time to time. Playing Trails on PC right now too, eagerly anticipating tons of games with a huge dumb smile on my face.
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>>378115340
I don't get this thread. On one hand people are saying sony is retarded, then they say psp3 is retarded. Wouldn't it be natural for a retarded company to do a retarded thing?
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>>378122346
I can't imagine how much of a relief to Republicans it must be to now be able to dismiss any and all news from any source as fake whenever it's convenient. After so many years of suffering from cognitive dissonance, they now have a catch-all lie they can use to take the pressure off their undeveloped brains.
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>>378122598
Its all thanks to one man.
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>>378122738
It's a great thing, albeit a minor thing. It's mostly butthurt sonybros who were actually thinking that the PS4 would actually get a monhun game that isn't a clone
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If the psp3 is backwards compatible with the vita and doesn't have waggle shit I'm down. If it's not BC then I really don't care until games come out.
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>>378122965
Sure, but Sony don't have any of the company people left to create handhelds. I think they got sent to another Sony place after the Vita flop. If Sony ever did decide to make another handheld you would hear credible rumors of it happening because Sony would have to make some major moves for it to happen.
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>>378116341
Fuck remote play, give me games, remote play implies you have a PS4, I don't want to buy a console to play a handheld.
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>>378122973
You sound mad. A journo relative of yours get slammed by Gianforte?
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>>378115340
Its been confirmed that it wont have monster hunter
why should we even care at this point
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>>378123057
This isn't Capcoms big reveal yet, they said so themselves, keep in mind Sony has trademarked a '5'or roman numeral V'' and Capcom publicy said it wants to expand MH in the west and gain a console presence. Just saying it's on the cards, if PS4 continues to sell at it's rate it would be dumb not to at least try
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>>378123149
>waggle shit
don't fucking remind me
>oh hey, musou for Vita
>SHAKE THE CONSOLE TO DO MORE DAMAGE
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>>378123167
>Sure, but Sony don't have any of the company people left to create handhelds. I think they got sent to another Sony place after the Vita flop.

Good, why would you want the people that made the flop to make a new console. Who ever designed the vita should be shot in the back of the head.
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Anyways competition is a good thing. Would love to see a psp3 to compliment my 3ds. Not buying a switch until weeb games start releasing on it. Aka Atelier, Neptunia, Genkai Tokki.
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>>378123451
If a portable that has PS3/PS2 compatability comes out I'm buying it no questions asked
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>>378123518
>PS3/PS2
PS2 maybe with a special chip, ps3 is never going to happen. Remember ps2 bc almost doubled the price of the ps3.
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>>378123518
Do you guys think itll come with a disc drive wtf?
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I doubt it, the Vita sold like dogshit, and even the Switch, if you consider it a handheld, is more powerful than a console and is getting console game from the Wii U and future console-style production games. The 3D and Vita sold way less than their predecessors, a major market contraction. The market for handhelds has never been worse.
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>>378123297
I own a vita and I agree with this.

Who was the retard that thought that having a back touch screen was a good idea? Camera? Gyroscope? Is the vita a video-game or a phone?

Just make a handheld with 4 buttons, 4 triggers, 2 analog sticks, good dpad, select + start and none of that share retard shit. Put a good screen and GOOD BATTERY!, no proprietary mem card but hire a good system to make security for it, at least try to prevent piracy for 3-5 years, after that piracy is somewhat good for pushing sales from people who wouldn't have bought the system otherwise.

Now all you have to do it make the system OS as lightweight as possible to run games faster, and PORT GOOD GAMES TO IT.

I should be paid by sony.
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>>378123740
Pretty much the same line of thought that made people think the ps4 will never be a thing.
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I don't know how you don't learn anything after the Vita. I'm sure Vita fans would love for another flop so long as they get theirs, but c'mon. If Sony's attitude towards the Vita is as is, the second coming of it isn't gonna suddenly make them happy.

People that buy PS4, don't want to play that shit on handhelds. They don't want to look at something like Uncharted 4 or Horizon on a 6 inch screen when they can pick up a Slim for 200 dollars these days usually. That's why they bitch and whine about every exclusive that comes to Nintendo like clockwork because it should be on the most cutting edge hardware for us gamers.
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>>378123764
>Is the vita a video-game or a phone?

This, Sony was really pushing the vita as a multimedia device with phone capability leading to inflated cost and worthless gimmicks. Like the two cameras rear touch screen and built in mic no one ever used .
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>>378117736
>Switch isn't a viable platform because it's too expensive to put games on for most of Japan's developers.

I don't get this argument when it's made for developers not to develop for consoles and PC because costs. Just because those platforms have more power than a handheld, doesn't mean developers are obliged to make it a huge production, to have an enormous budget or anything like that.

Indie games do sell a lot nowadays, Minecraft is one of the best selling games of recent times, No Man's Sky was terrible, yet it didn't stop from outselling games from big publishers like Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Terraria was also a game that sold so many copies it surprised the creator of it. There's no excuse at all to not develop for all consoles and PCs, today you can make a game by yourself on a garage, make it look worse than a NES game and you still sell it digitally, no need for a publisher or producing tons of disks or financing shipment of them which are all an expensive things.

Risk of Rain is an example of this, not sure if it was a 1 man team but that game looks worse than NES games.
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>>378124053
Yeah, I never used ANY of those features, NONE.

And when I had to use the back touch pad for Project Diva all it did was make me angry.

Fucking waste of resources...

The only gimmick I agree can and sometimes has good use is the main screen being touch, but for fuck's sake just don't force games to use this... But even then its completely optional if you have all the buttons a real controller has.
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More competition, specially against phones is always a good thing.
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>>378123987
>I don't know how you don't learn anything after the Vita.

Maybe they will and not release an over priced hunk of garbage next time? It's not like sony has never made a good handheld. Or that people don't want a sony handheld. The Vita was a bad deal, you could get an xbox 360 for less than the cost of a vita + memory card + game.
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>>378123987
I would play kingdom hearts, neir automata, world of final fantasy, P5 and tons of things on the go. I'd play Horizon too if not just farm for the trophies and play PS2 titles when I'm done
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>>378123869
I don't see the relation at all. If you wanted to get console games, you needed a PS3 or a Xbox 360. The Wii was something else, a secondary console of sorts since it was much cheaper and fit for party style games and didn't get loads of popular games such as GTA IV.

Now the handheld market has imploded, just compare the sales of the 3DS with the NDS and the Vita with the PSP. Has the 3DS even surpassed the PSP?
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>>378124202
He is talking about for niche weeb games. Like pick related. They would never release on the switch.
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>>378123987
Speak for yourself I'd love to play Persona 5 on the go.
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>>378124448
The console market was shrinking and the ps3 failed.

The handheld market is shirinking and the vita failed.

They both failed for the same reason, over priced and not enough games. Lower the price and put some games on them and they sell. It's not rocket science but Sony was really far up it's own ass after the ps2.
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>>378124473

While the vita lacked A LOT of great titles that the PSP had the vita truly was the ultimate weeb machine.
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>>378124638
>Lower the price and put some games on them and they sell
That's not how it works. Sony can't compete with Nintendo. Their grip on the handheld market has only increased since the Vita flopped and the Switch is doing well.
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>>378124753
>That's not how it works. Sony can't compete with Nintendo. Their grip on the handheld market has only increased since the Vita flopped and the Switch is doing well.

That isn't how the market works, just because you own a nintendo system doesn't mean you wont buy a sony system. If sony puts out a better product for a better price with better games it will sell. Fanboys are a niche group of people. Look at how xbox and nintendo lost their market share on consoles. The psp competed just fine with the ds and look how sony lost it. Good products at good prices sell, the vita was a bad product for a bad price and EVERYONE knew that. Because you could literally buy an xbox 360 which was king at the time for LESS than the price of a vita.
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>>378124724
>PSP had the vita truly was the ultimate weeb machine.

Vita is on another level of weeb man. PSP at least took it self semi serious, I don't remember lewd compile heart like games on it.
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>>378124473
Why? The switch is popular in Japan, are you saying Nintendo wouldn't allow those games?

>>378124638
The PS3 sold really well despite how it was tainted with the terrible initial price. The Xbox 360 also did well despite having hardware failures, the RROD stigma to it. 80 million each isn't a bad number at all, what happened is that PS2 had the lion's share of the market, while the Xbox huge was a distant competitor. In the 7th gen both got similar numbers, or rather Sony did lose some people. That's also if we ignore the Wii's numbers which were great but a different market with a lot of casual users who never bothered with games before.

I don't think game prices have anything to do with it, games are still selling a lot, GTA V sold so much despite not being that great, Destiny sold a lot despite many recognizing it's not that great, and the list goes on really. I don't see the doom and gloom about consoles, but the handheld market went from around 150m NDS + 70m PSP to 60m 3DS + 20m Vita. That's a pretty drastic drop there.
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>>378124996
The natural limitation of the handheld market is that most people can realistically carry only one of them at the same time. Which means people are less likely to buy a second one
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>>378125140
>The PS3 sold really well despite how it was tainted with the terrible initial price.

Yes because they gutted the system and made it affordable without having to take out a loan. They never did that with the vita.
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>>378124473
>compile heart
is there is more of shovelware japanese dev out there?
they should make one good game instead of dozen mediocre bullshit
even fanservice can't save this
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>>378124996
Better tech for a better price? Impossible. Better games? They don't have Pokemon or MonHun. They don't have any system sellers. If you think the console industry is tough then the handheld industry if you're not Nintendo is death valley.
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>>378125226
>The natural limitation of the handheld market is that most people can realistically carry only one of them at the same time.

Everyone I know has 2-4 versions of the 3ds. The fuck are you on?
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>>378124408
>>378124519
Be honest. Do you really think you're not another niche group like the Vita audience in thinking this? If the Vita sales didn't make them happy, why would another one, make them any more pleased? The PS4 moves most of it's units thanks to shooters and other mass market shit that usually hype up the games almost purely on visuals half the times.

>>378124365
Nobody was gonna give a shit even without the memory cards. It's just the lowest hanging fruit people like to point to. Switch is like 300 dollars+ when you get down to it but it's selling anyways. Is Sony ready to port their entire PS4 library to a new device? Are they gonna bet on a digital only handheld since you can't stick a PS4 disc into it? You cannot be seriously contemplating this if you think another separate library wouldn't be an instant nail in the coffin.
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>>378125260
Nep VII is their "one good game"
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>>378125389
>Switch is like 300 dollars+ when you get down to it but it's selling anyways.

Hasn't only done like 10% better than the wiiu at the same time frame?
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>>378115601
The only way the PSTV would have even had a chance to get popular is if they used SD cards, fuck the prices on these things.
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>>378125260
Oh yea there is tonnes, the only reason to buy a vita. The games are actually good, especially 7 pirates. It's just like those people that never played neptunia but hate it, then they play VII and they love it.
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>>378125419
>took 7 games in series to get good game out
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Sony will never learn.

NEVER WILL THEY LEARN

The Psp was a decent console that sold nealry 70 million units than Sony thought:
>Hey what would people do if we would release a handheld but make everything about him terrible and expensive except for the hardware?
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>>378125234
They still dropped support for the Vita entirely years ago, whenever they mentioned it was "yeah we kinda have that thing people". I don't know which posts did you see claiming there would be no PS4, probably just poor bait, because despite the bumpy road the PS3 was far more popular than the Vita, despite being more expensive. Handhelds are usually cheaper than consoles, the most entry level games platform, but they've been selling less and less, the market shrinkage of handhelds is on another level compared to what's going on with consoles.
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>>378125442
>same time frame?
No. Everytime someone posts that image, some one has to point out it took a few weeks of sales for a whole 87 day period. Not to mention sales are constrained purely by supply not meeting what is frankly looking like completely ridiculous demand.
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>>378115340
I wonder how they'll fuck it up.
Vita had those stupid memory cards.

>>378115375
I don't want Nintendo to have a monopoly.
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>>378116030
This would be the only reasonable thing to do, release it in Japan only. It will be reasonably popular, and anyone who wants one in the west can import one, hopefully through a service like Amazon JP.
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>>378125601
>Not to mention sales are constrained purely by supply not meeting what is frankly looking like completely ridiculous demand.

People keep saying that but every time I walk into my local game stop there are always switches available.
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>>378125527
I'm still salty I bought this shallow piece of crap
I actually have 1st Neptunia game for Vita (rerelease or something), may try it.
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>>378125570
What excuse does Nintendo have for 3DS sales dropping from 160 million DS sales?
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>>378125680
phones and mobile cannibalizing handhelds.
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>>378125620
>I don't want Nintendo to have a monopoly.
Why not? They've always had a monopoly on the handheld market. It's cheaper if they have a monopoly because
>then all games goes to one handheld
>you only have to buy 1 handheld
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>>378125725
So it's not the same for Vita?
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>>378125680
Probably the same one for the PS3 dropping so hard after the PS2.
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>>378125830
Nah vita just fucked up. Lost monhun, pso portable, cost more than a console, memory cards. Unlike Sony, Nintendo actually lowered the prices when the 3ds was failing. Till this day you can get a used ps4 cheaper than a new vita.
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>>378125140
>Literally removed a shit-load of hardware features
>Die-shrink meant more chips on a wafer, and lower TDP
>lowered the price point
>higher capacity HDDs


Sony had to do some serious maneuvering to be able to turn the tide on the initial PS3 release. The fact that JP loves Sony is one of the key things that helped make the system.
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>>378125680

>Expensive compared to Ds
>Games are more expensive than 3Ds games
>Some people didnt realize its a new console
>The Touch! generation ( in other words people that bought a Ds for Dr. Kawashima and Brain Academy ) have a smartphone now and play their shitty apps there
>Nintendo Ds pinched the zeitgeist on release like the Wii and the Ps2
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>>378125921
ok bro
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>Sony entering the handheld space again

I'm willing to bet they go the Nokia route.
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>>378125830
the psp was never a casual machine like the ds.
sony pretty much sent the thing to die. i could count the number of goodgames released and marketed for the vita with my goddam hand by sony.
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>>378125759
Because when you only have one option, that one option has the freedom to fuck you in the ass with a spiked club.
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>>378125759
I don't like the switch's form factor and would like options? I'm not a child that needs his mom's credit card to buy game consoles.
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>>378125995
this
they will make a phone or a ps4 add on or some shit.
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>>378115340
Sony's just putting itself into more debt if it just shills proprietary shit again. The main issue with PSP and Vita was that you had to buy THEIR brand of memory.

Though I do think Sony's sense of oneupsmanship in terms of hardware also means they'll technically have better hardware than the Switch and they'll also have an insane price tag to boot, all in the name of besting Nintendo at their own game if not testing the waters to shift PS5 to a hybrid market. ARM and x86 do seem to have a closing gap assuming progress past the Cortex-A73 shows more promise.
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>>378125996
80 million hardcore PSP gamers? Wow
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>>378115340
Powerful smartphones are so common nowadays, so I don't see any success for non-Nintendo handhelds. Even Nintendo has started moving on the phones. This will fail just like the original PSP and Vita.
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Sony is really the most retarded company out there.
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>>378126003
Form factor? Why not?
>>378126002
I honestly prefer Nintendo to have a monopoly considering how jewish companies like Sony are.
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>>378126002
even if we dont have a monopoly we still get fucked
pay2online being an excellent example of that
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Sony will do the same shit as the Vita, reasonably powerful machine with low software sales meaning no 3rd party support especially in the west. It will be great for Weebs though.
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You wish, the new hardware is a PS4 pro 2
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>>378126086
>80 million pirates
ftfy
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>>378125960
I own and love my vita buy sony really fucked up.

And I'm pretty happy for it. It's created an environment where small niche devs can spring from. The vita would not be the wealth of niche games if not for it being largely ignored by large devs. I wouldn't have the vita any other way but as a flop. The last thing I want is the fifa and gta crowd on the vita. Which is why I'm afraid for the switch.
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>>378126237
Hardcore pirates. as opposed to the 160 million casual pirates on DS
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http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20012679.html

So a new Sony factory in Japan is manufacturing a new "gaming machine".
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>>378126165
That is because Sony realized that they could get free money for online, and could point to Microsoft and say "Well they do it". The fact that there is no 3rd major player with the same level of support means they didn't have to fear a huge backlash and any lost sales.
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>>378126129
I would prefer a clam shell or vita like handheld. Not a tablet with waggle shit on the side. The plastic screen is god awful it should be glass. The whole system is too wide with the controllers attached. Most of all missing the clam shell form factor so I can put it in my pocket.
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I doubt this but do Sony knows why PS1, PS2, PSP, Wii and DS, 3DS sold well? It's because you can pirate games. Piracy sells hardware. In the PS1/PS2 days, even the poor had one. Everyone had a PSP and the DS. Can't pirate with the PS3 so it sold poorly. Wii can be pirated so it sold well.

You can't sell anymore more units in the first world if everyone who wants one already owns one.
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>>378126340
You don't have to pay for online on the vita.
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>>378122750
A silver age, maybe.
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>>378126201
This is all I want.
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>>378126329
habbening!@@@@!!!


I don't care if it flops! DO IT!
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>sonybros still clinging to muh PSP

unless you want to release it day 1 completely unlocked for pirates and force devs to make games that arent just panty quets faster, this shit is a BOMBA
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>>378126404
Like a mini-handheld? I don't know, I think the market has moved past that after the DS.
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>>378126265
Nigger I put 250 plus hours on harvest moon ds, 300 in portrait of ruin, and I don't even wanna know how much pokemon.
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>>378126443
But what about software sales? I mean, I pirate most of my games nowadays but I only ever buy video-games when they are dying.

I think if you enable piracy too fast its a bad thing for the device...
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ソニー工場のある木更津で「新型ゲーム機組立作業」の求人が掲載中!Vita後継機マジでくるううううう!?

Sony is now looking to fill open positions in their factory at Kisarazu for their new game hardware.
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>>378122738
Some people, myself included didn't enjoy the shit controls in the 3DS version and I know a guy who needs glasses who can't see it at all even on the XL, with his glasses on, the problem being that it's not HD and on a tiny screen
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>>378126647
Correction, 159,999,999 casual pirates and one hardcore pirate on DS.
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>>378126758
>myself included didn't enjoy the shit controls in the 3DS

Isn't that part of the fun of monhun since the psp days?
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>>378126329
Anyone know why the Japanese symbol for Yen is different from ours? is it because of the Unicode support in the west or special characters or what?
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>>378126201
Make it have free online (it won't because Sony is that greedy) and market that angle.
Try to get marvelous to release some waifu sims on the thing, and maybe an English patch for frontier (wishful thinking).
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>nier on psp3

I'd buy it.
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>>378126758
Yeah pretty much. While I enjoyed like some RPGs on my 3DS. I fucking hate Monster Hunter on it or anything involving a camera. Like even SoV, I'm a little pissed I have to use the nub in the dungeons for the camera. Thank God they didn't use that on the Switch.

Only game that the camera wasn't shit to me was SMT since they used the R and L, which is still dumb.
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>>378126836
Lots of people are Tribabbys and learned the game with a real controller
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>>378115340
>Handheld
Not at all.

>>378115375
Sony does alright in the handheld market in Japan.
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>>378126952
Sounds like a bunch of casuals, but I stopped playing when my friends stopped. Monhun was never fun alone for me.
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>>378126849
They should legit go full weeb for it, market as a waifu simulator machine. Use a touch screen for touching boobs, patting heads. Use a gyro for moving girls like MGS4. Mic to talk to them. Do it Sony. Become the king of the weebs!
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The entire point of the switch is to play console games on the go, right?

If Sony released a new handheld, how would they go about countering that? Switch is getting current-gen console games like Steep and the new sonic. I can't imagine Sony having the same business model.

Like, what, would they be getting the new sonic on BOTH the ps4 and Psp3? What would the point of having both be? I just can't see it working from a business perspective
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>>378115340
Could be good.
More competition is only good for consumers.

People shitting on it without any information are just retarded fanboys
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>>378127121
Digital only crossplay model
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>>378127121
>how would they go about countering that?

With third party support.
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I don't really understand what people think Sony is going to do here. They want a handheld that plays PS2/PS3/even PS4 games? That's smaller than the Switch and folds but also doesn't have a retarded control setup from that? And it'll all be cheaper? Are people living in a fucking fantasy world where any combination of those things is possible?

Do people honestly think Nintendo gimped the Switch when it comes to being a handheld? It's not a great, or even good really, living room console but it's sure as shit pushing the portable side. What exactly is it you think Sony is going to do to either improve on that without making it bigger or more expensive or make all of that sold cheaper?
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>>378127121
Yes just like their PS4/Vita games of the past.
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>>378127178
You are missing my point. If they release a portable system powerful enough to play console games, then they are creating direct competition against their ps4. It would be retarded to have both.
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>>378127240
stop thinking /v/ is one person
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>>378127121
Switch is a pretty poor handheld. The battery life sucks and it's not particularly portable.

There's room in the market for a new dedicated handheld seeing as Nintendo are letting the 3ds rot
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>>378127178
But the Switch is already getting bad weeb games, unless you're seriously telling me that you enjoyed the Borderlands 2 port on the Vita
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>>378115340
OP, for Sony to make a PS Vita 2, they'd have to make a PS Vita first.
And I'm pretty sure they abandoned the handheld market after the PSP.
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>>378125942
>>378125942
So? It still managed to achieve parity with the 360 while having worse versions of multiplats and a terrible launch price. They managed to not have a massive loss in market share. The Vita just flopped on its belly and they left it to die. I saw no reason to believe the PS4 wasn't going to be a thing, now I see no reason for another Sony handheld, the Vita sales were that bad.

Maybe they could make another of those phones with buttons, Xperia Play was the name of the last one?
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>>378127173
This is the only explanation that makes sense
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>>378127121
>Switch
>current gen
Maybe in 2010.
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>>378127327
>>378127286
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>>378123286
>keep in mind Sony has trademarked a '5'or roman numeral V''
Yea the "V" trademark is listed as Sleepwalker.
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>>378127286
Never knew you could take your ps4 on the go.
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>>378127376
>doesn't know how generations work
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>>378127330
>But the Switch is already getting bad weeb games

Not it's not. I would own one if it did.
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>>378127121
PSP3 will be able to play PS4 games, they'll make it exceedingly easy for devs to port games to the PSP3, so much so that not doing the port would be a dumb thing to do.

Also, having the PSP3 would mean that any game developed for the Sony PS4 will be developed for the PSP3 too, increasing sales by about 70% for any game, either from double dippers or from people who only have a PSP3.
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>>378115375

Well, Nintendo still haven't learned in regards to the console market
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>>378127173
This, mandate anybody who releases a game on both to offer both version like R&C, or PS All Stars
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>>378127383
I'm not saying they should go for power and aim for console type games.

They could just repackage the internals of the vita and call it something completely new and it would still shit on the 3ds graphically. They just need to make something affordable with decent software support
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>>378127425
Two systems from the same company that play the same games. Nobody would buy a PS4 over a Psp3 if it's strong enough to get full fledged PS4 ports
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>>378127327
Nintendo is not going to cannibalize their Switch with another handheld. The Switch is a hybrid, and Nintendo has been talking about integration of the handheld and console divisions, hybrid platform and all that for a while. I'm afraid your wish for a 3DS successor won't happen if you're expecting another pure handheld, or it already did, it's called the Switch.
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>>378127479
That doesn't increase sales. It splits up hardware sales.
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>>378127587
>a Psp3 if it's strong enough to get full fledged PS4 ports

It won't be, don't be stupid.
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>>378127587
How do you make a psp3 as powerful as the ps4? Wait wait let me guess, tegra x2 right?
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>>378127286
Why direct competition? A handheld that plays PS4 games would only increase software sales.
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New Sony hardware = New PS4 upgraded version to compete against the Xbox Scorpio, the Pro ain't cutting it
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>>378127650
No it doesn't, some people only play games on the go. Just look at the japanese.

People who own a handheld device aren't exactly the same as the people who own a console.
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>>378119957
There really is if Nintendo doesn't make a successor to the 3DS that takes off as well. It has always looked like shit and it gets worse every year. $40 phones can play better games with higher settings at this point.
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>>378127723
>>378127728
My entire argument was assuming the Psp3 is more powerful than the switch, which is already getting PS4 ports. I guess there is no reason for me to believe that would be the case though
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>>378127240
It's just Vitafags desperately wanting Vita 2 at any cost.

Anyone giving even a little thought to this, would see there's a billion and one ways for this to go wrong. The PS4's existence in and of itself is already a hurdle for such a device. You can't just stick PS4 games in and go. Digital only is fucking suicide. What you gonna buy like a hundred dollar memory so you can put a couple of games on there? That'd be another ultra niche device.
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>>378127743
the xbox isn't even on the competition lmaaaoooo
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>>378127479
Would this acually be possible to have the same version work on the hardware? I'm spectical this is possible. The switch is the same machine, so it works. But having a smaller form-factor machine that can play the same version as it's big brother? How?
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>>378127732
It would grind PS4 sales to a halt
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>>378127923
What PS4 port that Switch is getting?
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>>378127923
>Psp3 is more powerful than the switch,

It probably wont be, and even if it was it would be able to play ps3/ps4 games without down grading visuals. PSP3 would just be a stronger vita. Which is all we want.
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>>378127968
Ports of vita games ported to the ps4.
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>>378115340
If it got Miku? Fuck yeah I'd be excited.
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>>378127968
Disgaea 5
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>>378126996
>Sony does alright in the handheld market in Japan.
Only because of waifufag pandering trash
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>>378127968
Steep
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>>378126129
>I honestly prefer Nintendo to have a monopoly
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>>378128158
Whats wrong with that?
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>>378127291
It's more than people wanting conflicting things, but that any one of the things people want from it making it less viable in a trade off. Playing PS4 games on the go on anything but remote play is a fucking fantasy. It would either be so unaffordable or unwieldy as to be laughable or Sony would be burning money to make it affordable. No way to make it unwieldy. You think the consoles are the size they are because the actual console bits are that big? You need power and cooling to run that shit and making it portable isn't going to be comfortable. PS2/PS3 games maybe, but then you're either having to port all those things somehow, or just repackaging their internals into a handheld which is going to be leaving you with all their outdated problems. Native emulation for either on a handheld would be a fantasy.

If it's going to try and snag a lower price tier, is it actually going to succeed there? Between the Switch and Mobile is there room any more? Portable gaming has been devoured by Mobile gaming, and left the 3DS and Vita fighting over the remains. The Switch is currently dominating on the promises of portable console(ish) games, and the 3DS is going to be around for maybe another year or so. After that it'll be the Switch most likely. By then the price will have come down enough to make Sony really having to aim low to be being competitive in some sort of budget handheld market. And is that really something the Sony brand will stomach? Being the "budget handheld?" If there's one thing they don't like doing, it's being the lesser model. We can't rule out dumbshit like that and say "well if Sony did everything I think will work, it would work." Sony's got its own issues that will be affecting any sort of new portable it puts out.
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>>378127968
The new sonic. Rime. Etc.

They aren't exactly ports from the ps4, but they are current gen console games coming to the switch
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>>378127472
game?
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>>378127617
That's why it's the opportune moment for Sony to make a psp 3.
There's lots of people who just want a pocketable games machine with no bells and whistles
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>>378128186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwBIUh7gh8

lmao
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>>378115340
Well you don't win by not competing in the marketplace. conceding the entire hand-held Space 2 Nintendo would be a huge mistake from a business perspective so I can totally see Sony having another handheld to try to make up for the ground they've lost with the Vita.
And really the Vita has been doing fine. Sure it hasn't been selling like gangbusters but a steady stream of 20,000 every single month pretty much for the last few years. If it wasn't doing at least okay they would have discontinued the 2K the same way they stop producing the original Vita.
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>>378128246
Cheap way to get sales from the otaku crowd
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>>378128331
but then the Switch is getting support, Monster Hunter confirmed while the Vita, you know what happened
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>>378128264
On a smaller screen its much easier to make good graphics, also there are good handhelds coming that basically run WINDOWS 10 AND games like the witcher 3 on ultra low, and thats not on cutting edge tech.

If they can manage to cut a good deal with AMD or NVIDIA, cut all the bullshit gimmicks that only make the handheld more expensive, put all of the controller buttons on it, I don't see how it would fail to be honest, this would be a master play by Sony.
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>>378128358
Looks fine. Only glaring difference is missing partical effects
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>>378128473
Vita also didn't have MH
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>>378128413
>And really the Vita has been doing fine
Seriously, anyone who thinks Sony is going to create another handheld are dumb as fuck. Last time they last against Mario 3D Land. This time Nintendo has BotW and SMO.
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>>378128301
genkai tokki 7 pirates.
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>>378128576
and it sold like 1/4 of what the PSP did
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>>378128463
whats wrong with that?
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>>378115340
No thanks, I learnt my lesson from the Vita.
I bought the "exclusive" Gravity Rush and got fucked in the ass.
I bought the "exclusive" Tearaway and got fucked in the ass.
I bought the "exclusive" Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus and got fucked in the ass.
I bought the "exclusive" Danganronpa and got despair in the ass.
I own a PS4 and I own a high-end PC. If I knew the Vita wasn't going to have any good exclusives, I wouldn't have bought the fucking thing. My ass is far too sore for another Sony handheld.
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>>378128594
My nigga.
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>>378128331
This is a bad meme or just pure hyperbole. Many actually prefer bigger than smaller. It's one of the many excuses /v/ used to say Japan would never adopt the Switch, and yet it already makes up like half the shares every week without Splatoon, without Animal Crossing, without Monster Hunter, etc. You're aiming at the few, actually.
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>>378128642
3DS had MH and it sold 1/3 of what DS did
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>>378128264
All they want is the market share of people who want to play PS4 games but can't afford to play at home because they are never at home, there are plenty of people like that in japan for example.

Also some people only play on handhelds, and if sony doesn't have a viable option its a market they are letting to rot or for other companies to catch.
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>>378128331
>There's lots of people who just want a pocketable games machine with no bells and whistles
>"there's literally dozens of us" scream Vita owners in interview
Sony's not going to make a handheld purely to cater to the fraction of the gaming population that did buy the Vita. They're going to want to aim at more than that in order to justify the RD and the whole shebang that comes with a new console launch. Which means catering to literally everything the Vita supporters didn't care about. Sony is not going to intentionally make the Vita 2: Otaku Boogaloo.
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>>378127939
Sony might be careful their MUH POWER marketing of the Scorpio is going to sway the people. Also the Pro didn't sell well, they could try putting another features in the new upgraded PS4 to try and get more sales and keep the PS4 brand going.
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>>378128532
>If they can manage to cut a good deal with AMD or NVIDIA,

PowerVR just made a new chipset Furian. It would be BC with the vita/psp.
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>>378128670
Sounds like you had fun and got mad when other people got to have that fun.
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>>378128706
which shows the handheld market is shrinking so it's not a good proposition to make another handheld for it
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>>378128594
>>378128684
It easy to play without know japanese?
the game run in a pirate vita?
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Why? Just buy that shitty windows handheld pc. It should run all the vita ports just fine.
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>>378128754
>MUH POWER

Scorpio will never be stronger than PC, then this is a waste desu senpai.
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>>378128663
Otaku are scum and have no standards. They will buy any piece of shit with cute girls on the cover and defend their waifus to death, regardless of how trashy the gameplay is
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>>378128870
Yeah but there's still room for someone as big as Sony to have a slice of the pie. Not the biggest slice of course as history would tell us, but a slice nonetheless.
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>>378128940
some people will never play on PC
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>>378125667

wait isn't this game the one that some anon bought some special edition that had baby stuff with it?
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>>378128813
Retard. If he already had a ps4, and bought a Vita for exclusives he couldn't play on the ps4, then he directly wasted money. Its not about who else plays where.
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>>378128720
>PS4 games but can't afford to play at home because they are never at home
Again, you are severely underestimating what it would cost to make a portable PS4. It's not just a "well maybe it would compete with the PS4" concern. It's a "it's competing with the laws of physics" concern. The PS4 is designed the way it is, in price, size, and specs because that's where they can all meet to make an affordable console. You're not going to make that portable.

It needs to have cooling to run at the spec it does. It needs power to run at the spec it does. You try and downgrade that, you run into the problem of actually being able to satisfactorily run the PS4 games that are the whole point of this. The PS4 is right now having a hard time running satisfactorily with its games as a home console. You're looking at needing a big breakthrough in battery, cooling, and size technology to make this possible right now.
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>>378128890
I platted it and I don't know a lick of moon.
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>>378129005
Zero system sellers = no new handheld
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>>378129110
Just like the Vita, yet that's what people want.
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>>378129173
Sony doesn't want another Vita, they want something much better than that. They abandoned the Vita.
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>>378129173
>people want another flop
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>>378129305
They are making it regardless
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>>378129092
Dude...

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-intel-z8700-win-10-os-game-console-laptop#/

This is sold by 300 dollars.

It runs WINDOWS 10 AND PLAY WITCHER 3 on a handheld machine which isn't even using cutting edge tech.

If they can manage to make it better and make a very lightweight OS, gaming focused and very easy to port and optimize for it, of course its feasible and dare I say even probable.

New chipsets are coming much more portable, stronger and consume a lot less energy, just search for that Furian to see an example.
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>>378118293
When's Monster Hunter Switch gettkng released?
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>>378128687
>>378128729
Now that Nintendo is putting the 3ds on the backburner a psp 3 could conceivably steal a good chunk of 3ds owners from Nintendo.
The switch is large, expensive, and for many people not a replacement for their 3ds. Sony could offer that.
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>>378129437
I think it'll be announced Sunday
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>>378129340
No I just want another niche handheld machine to play all my nip games on.

I don't care if it appeals to the normalfags. Shit the Vita has had 3 exclusives come out in the past month or so and there are still localizations down the road, I love it.
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>>378115340
>don't name it the Vita 2
>give it all the necessary buttons
>no touch screen necessary
>follow Nintendo's lead and rerelease 5 year old games
>demons souls, ratchet and clank future, etc now on the go
>throw in a few portable sequels to promote the real console
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>>378129608
And what makes you think Japanese games won't come to the Switch? Seriously, it doesn't make any sense.
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>>378129712
Target audience. The same reasoning why certain games are on Vita and not the 3DS.
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>>378115340
not really, all my ps vita did was collect dust for 99% of the time i've owned it
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>>378128942
whats wrong with that?
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>>378129793
Because you need to be a big company to release games on the 3DS and it wasn't powerful enough to run Vita games. Target audience for the Switch is literally the people that bought the Vita, at least in Japan.
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>>378129067
If he had then he had fun and the games payed for themselves.
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>>378129968
they'll claim their waifushit are good games, when it's just glorified masturbation material
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>>378129102
>>378128890
The game is honestly fun. The game play is simple but there is some depth also the boss fights can be intense. You need to use debuffs, poisons, silence, stuns or you will get wrecked.
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>>378129968
Game quality is not defined by waifushit and fanservice
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>>378130035
But it wouldn't have been worth buying a Vita if he could have just waited to get them on ps4.

This really isn't a complicated concept, buddy
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>>378130013
>Target audience for the Switch is literally the people that bought the Vita, at least in Japan.

lol no. Switch will never get visual novels and lewd games.
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>>378130013
Yeah you report to your boss that bro. You'll sure to get a raise.
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>>378130119
Whats wrong with that?

>>378130195
If it's fun for me, then it's fun for me.
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>>378130281
I guess if you are ok waiting for several years then sure. By that logic you should just wait for piracy or PC emulation for every game.
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>>378129503
I could see this happening.
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>>378130287
Hmm
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>>378129383
>If they can manage to make it better
Through magic, one imagines. This whole delusion rests on "they'll just make it work, somehow." The thing is essentially a Switch but running Windows. Games on it are a crap shoot and those are PC games meant to be scaleable in their hardware. You're not going to be just throwing PS4 games onto this thing without major reworking and optimization, the fucking bane of modern PS4 games.

If you're going cutting edge, that's a lot of money and resources to throw into your side game portable. Which will then need to be sold high or at a significant loss. All assuming people are willing to pay so much for even PS4 games on the go.
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>>378130013
So they will share games then
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>>378117493
good post
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>>378129383
>PC games

No thank you.
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>>378116847
https://www.imgtec.com/powervr/graphics/furian/

Also, psp3 and switch being near each other in power would be a good thing. What will matter then is library and form factor. If psp3 can pull off backwards compatibility with the vita it would be a huge leg up.
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>>378130546
Through having a better OS than fucking windows 10 focused on gaming and also making it easy for devs to optimize their games for the PSP3.

Its not magic.

Also the screen doesn't need to be as big as the switch, which makes graphics even easier to look good.
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>>378130974
If you're arguing for a PSP3, that's fine. I was busy arguing about why a portable PS4 that's competitive with the Switch is a fucking pipe dream.
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>>378130939
>If psp3 can pull off backwards compatibility with the vita it would be a huge leg up.
lol
>and with the power of the Vita!
>I can now play!
>Gravity Rush and Persona 4 Piss Edition!
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>>378131037
>I was busy arguing about why a portable PS4 that's competitive with the Switch is a fucking pipe dream.

Everyone but retards know that. You can't fit a ps4 in a handheld form factor. I just want a psp3 that is backward compatible with the vita and can keep up with ps4 ports. Right now the vita is struggling really bad to keep up compared to before. SAO:HR is unplayable on the vita for me, don't know how the nips can handle it.
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>>378131037
but it is a ps4 portable.
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>>378131085
Freedom wars, Soul Sacrifice Delta, all the weeb games, psp games, ps1 games. Would be great.
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