So it's official

>>378112762
>a 7 year old game that has been $5 for years has more players than an 8 month old game that has barely dropped in price

>>378112762
Civ 5 even looks better

>>378113001
The shame is CIV's art style only looks at it's best maxed out..

>>378112904
Well you forgot the the bit about Civ 6 being absolutely garbage, but yeah it is a little unfair.

what the hell is firaxis doing? it's about time for a expansion for civ 6 and xcom 2.

civ 5 is;
>fun
>everyone on steam has it
>has a lot of mod support
>runs on toasters

>>378112904
>a 7 year old game has more players than an 8 month old game

Yes, that actually is unexpected.

>>378113001
This. There's been 2 Civ games since Civ5 and Civ5 still has better gameplay, better graphics and better everything than the others.

>>378112762
Civ 2 is still the best Civ game.

Is there even really a reason to play Civ6? Isn't it just less content all around? Maybe this will teach them to stop "improving" upon their previous vanilla game and instead improve upon the previous game and its expansions.

>>378114257
Don't be entitled, goy

>>378114361
kek

I got bored of the one thing per hex rule in Civ5 pretty quick

>>378113285
Not really with these games. 4X isn't FPS where you just chase the latest release for its MP.

>>378114257
>Is there even really a reason to play Civ6?

I sure haven't found one yet. The reviews just seem to be getting worse over time.

>>378114257
You can never deliver the equivalent of previous game + expansions, though.

>>378114084
>dat feel when Civ2 on PS1 was my first Civilization game

Good shit. I still wish SMAC took off as a series instead of Civ, though.

>>378112762
theres a civ6? when did that happen?

>>378114706
If they made RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, we would have had to wait for corkscrew rollercoasters again.

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>>378112762
I'm disappointed narrators from 5 and 6 can't measure up to Nimoy in 4. Not to mention Baba Yetu is still the most iconic Civ song.

>>378114084
I don't even know how many hours I poured into Civ 2 when I was a kid. Do you guys remember that dinosaur scenario?

>>378114767
Civ 1 was my first, but I couldn't play it for shit as I was really young, and it was pirated and I had no manual.

civ 4 masterrace reporting in

>>378112762
Have any expansions released for VI yet? Once the 'complete edition' is available for a tenner everyone will move over

Tell me how to finish a Civ5 game I always get bored halfway in and want to start a new game.

>>378115076
You're already playing it correctly. Same for grand strategy.

>>378115064
No. I worry they'll just go with small DLC. They're a different team, but XCOM2 was kinda left to drown.

>>378115076
Get a longer attention span.

I thought that having two versions of Greece was going to lead to all sorts of alternate leaders.

It didn't. Greece is the only civ with two leaders.

So why shoehorn in boring ass Gorgo who didn't even really do fuck all?

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>>378114897
Sean "Real Human" Bean is good in Civ6, but he has really different cadence and tone that doesn't really come off as a professor.

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Holy shit guys a Civ game with expansions is better than one without! If only this happened in every single previous game in the series, then we could've guessed it!

I think people are just starting to have realized that civ games already fucking peaked. I'm just done with the franchise, they never learned any lessons, let alone ones about optimization.

>>378114897
Baba Yetu is the GOAT, but Civ 6's main theme is really fucking good (after Civ 5 didn't really have anything interesting)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQYN2P3E06s

>>378112762
That's because VI isn't even really out yet. Everyone knows Civ games don't get good, until all of the expansions and tweaks are released. Everyone hated V when it released, then it became great with the expansions.

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Sorry guys, this is MY thread now.

>>378115231
>they never learned any lessons

I know what you mean - especially in diplomacy. I mean, fuck, you can mute leaders in MoO 2, a game that's now 21 years old, and you still can't do that in Civ 5. You've got to sit through their "how about we do a research agreement in exchange for you giving me 1000 gold and all your iron and your only ivory and nothing from me?" as many times as they like.

>>378115484
Because that VA cost a pretty penny and by god you'll learn to love it.

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>>378115231
>we'll never get a Blizzard 4x set on Azeroth

I give those fuckers so much shit but I bet they could optimize the everloving FUCK out of a 4x and make unique and interesting factions...

>>378115268
I liked the gods and kings theme from Civ v though, i think it was better than the brave new world one.

>>378115626
Yeah, that one is decent, not really catchy though

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>>378115578
not the guy you're answering and I do appreciate the effort that went into it, but at some point that shit just makes for good marketing material. once you're actually plaything the game you just quickly gloss over the message and skip the dialog.

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>>378112762
my friend gave it to me for free, i like it
plus i didn't have the religion dlc for civ 5

What, it released?
How is it?

I am a civ addict and I havent even botered pirating civ 6. Still playing 5. Looks like a phone game and honestly no civs are good before they have years of expansions so ill stick with V

>>378116214
Its literally Clash of Clans and has pay to win features and an energy system

>>378112762
>shitty dumbed down mobile-looking game flops

No shit. The only good thing about VI was the main menu theme.

>>378115268
The new song gave me goosebumps when I heard it initially, but when I learned that it was based on yet another fake quote it just kinda died for me.

>>378115268
>Civ 5 didn't really have anything interesting

I don't know I like the Civ 5 theme and liked the in game music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSmMbp22JKI

I like Civ 5 but there's a lot of
>do nothing for fucking ages and then something happens

>>378116929
>do nothing for fucking ages and then all your friendly civs declare war on you for no fucking reason

>>378116780
It doesn't really matter, it's a good text - it goes way beyond the "quote" anyway. Baba Yetu is really "just" the lord's prayer too.

Civ 6 was half-assed shovelware.

Civ 6's civ themes are fantastic, I love that they have different versions for the eras

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNoy6AJ3-HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS31N24LFZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45G7EQXaqc

>>378114897
>>378115268
Dream of Flight is better than Baba Yetu.

Civ4>=Civ2>Civ6>Civ3>Civ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unbelievable garbage>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>civ5

>>378117269
No it's not.

pretty annoying how /v/ predictably circlejerks the previous game and shits on the newest game

literally the same thing happened with civ5 vs civ4

>>378112762

If anything proves how tasteless and casual Steam players are, it's that Civ V, the worst and most casual game in the series, is the most played.

There is literally zero reason to ever play V when IV exists.

>>378117748
Yeah, it is.

@378117726
fucking nigger

>>378117726
Quality post my man

>>378117846
NO, it's not. Do you want to fight me?

>>378117818
You tried too hard.

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>>378115416
>conquests
>atlant's route1,2 mod
>wonderful rise and rule mod
I can't get enaugh of it. I still play the camapign for Ottomans that I started 7 years ago. Still remember campaign for Atlants 7-8 years ago. So much water flew, so many things happened. Eh..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSridCnqN8

>>378112762
Civ5 is more complete than 6.

>>378112762
personally im just waiting for the inevitable dlc that come with balancing changes, and finally the golden edition

only a fool buys civ games before the golden edition. alternatively, its people who really want to support the company to make sure the game gets its dlc

im neither, though

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>>378112762
I heard there's this game Fallout 4 where you can build settlements and manage their problems, you should give it a shot, it's currently 67% off on steam.

>>378112762
CIV 4 was better than 5 until the expansions came out.
Same will happen again and nobody will call them put on blatant jewery, again.

>>378118280
>bongo bongo drums vs classical music about the achievements and ambition of man

Yeah I'll fight you faggot

>>378117726
thank you

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Civ 6 was my first Civ game and it's the only strategy game that I actually like that's not called XCOM.

I'm a piece of shit I suppose but I don't care because I think it's super fun, and I think the art style is far better than 5. Dunno why. Shit tastes.

>>378119360
>not liking drums, the most ancient of human instruments that exists in every culture

fag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBBhmu-fPyk

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>>378119619
Nah mang, it's probably a lot more solid of a base game than Civ 5 was before expansions. If you enjoy it now, you'll probably REALLY enjoy it after a few expacs, because Civ games tend to get exponentially better afterwards.

>>378119341
>Civ 4 was better than 5
Fix'd that for you

>>378117816
Because it was justified you shitposting cunt

>>378117269
I agree. Never got the hype for Baba Yetu. The music in Civ VI is the best in the series.

>>378117816
Well, civ5 is total garbage compared to the civ4 even now
Civ6 is better than civ5 too, by the way

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>>378113285
You don't seem to understand how Civilization works.

When Civ6 has its two expansions, Civ5 will have zero players, just like what happened to Civ4. Even though Civ4 is a superior game to 5.

>>378113117
>>378114706
>>378115220
>>378115334
>>378119341
>>378119724
>j-just wait for the expansions

God forbid anyone actually expect a decent vanilla game at the outset with DLC as a nice side bonus instead being the rest of the fucking product.

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>>378117818
5 is shit but it's by far the most casual game. Civilization Revolution and Civilization Online for Facebook were the most casual Civ games.

>>378119636
>classical
>vocal
>based on a quote by DaVinci
>sung in Italian (the non-overused Latin replacement)
>not better than drums

>>378120008
I loved Baba Yetu, but Sogno di Volare is still much better than it.

so how is Civ IV? I missed out when i was a kid. Just got it from GOG for pennies. What am I in for?

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>>378120138
You're right, of course, but past games have shown that the Civ devs generally have good ideas but bad implementation in their base games, only to fix them slowly over time to create really good shit.

Of course you want the base game to be good immediately, but it's more of a history of the series thing, never buy these before a sale/expac.

>>378120265
A fun video game

>>378120265
Better with expacs

If you get it, you'll have the best that Civ has to offer

>>378120138
>God forbid anyone actually expect a decent vanilla game at the outset with DLC as a nice side bonus instead being the rest of the fucking product.
You're expecting it out of the wrong series, retard. Civilization has always been like this, ever since the beginning. That's why it's retardation to compare Civ5+2 expansions to Civ6+0.

>>378120363
I have the complete edition

>>378120189
It's not a real quote (not that that actually matters), but are you saying Baba Yetu is 1) not vocal 2) Swahili is overused? What?

Tastes differ, of course - I really like grand renditions of folk songs, but Sogno di Volare is magnificent too. It's like arguing over which diamond is shinier.

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>>378115612
>no Warcraft 4X
>no Warcraft RotTK/NA with customization options out the ass
>not even Warcraft Warriors Empires

>>378120265
It's great as is. It aslo has a ton of great mods

>>378117726
garbage>>>>>>>>>>>your post

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Endless Legend and Endless Space 2 are better than both.

>>378115416
>enter modern times
>weather channel music plays

>>378117251
>not using Down Under by Men At Work for the Roy Scheider look-alike

>>378120630
like what

>>378121331
I love Endless legen'ds province expansion

basically grand strategy but without ugly borders, only reason i even play 4x games over gsg games, fucking ugly borders.


Give me a grand strategy game where I never have to worry about ugly borders and I'll never bother with 4x games ever again.

>>378121331

>Endless legend

Maybe if it didn't have AI that is somehow even worse than civ AI. The AI in that game is HoMM4 levels of retarded, and that game was released unfinished because the company went under.

>>378112762
Civ 4 > Civ 5 > Civ 6

Civ V will remain better than VI until 1-2 expansions. Thats how its always been.

Endless Legend > both though.

>>378122298
this

>>378117818
> Stack twenty nugs on one tile
> Attack city with twenty nugs
> Hurrr civ IV da best strategy

>>378122850
>>378122298
agreed, this is the order they were released

>>378123102

Honestly both have their disadvantages.

The main one with 1UPT being that the AI can not handle it, even with the final Civ V patch. Also causing traffic jams is a legitimate strategy.

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>>378112762
>Civ 5 not working on my desktop PC but working on my piece of shit laptop with 5fps

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>>378121331
Not really. They have aesthetics and varied factions going for themselves but that's about it. It's clear Amplitude is aiming for a very different and story with quests-driven approach with their 4X games, though.

>>378123102
it's an army. could they have used better visual feedback? sure, but it lends itself to greater scale than single unit per hex which in my mind looks like I'm playing a board game with miniatures.

Is it me or is civ 6 not actually getting expansions? The only dlc coming up I've heard of is more civ packs.

>>378123837
They've been doing the same thing with Civ5. First expansion came out two years later.

Civ 6 was everything Civ fans didn't want

We keep asking for more detailed mechanics of running a Empire, better diplomacy and more complex combat

Instead they just keep making everything more simply and normie friendly

Combat units look fucking terrible, art style looks stupid and lacks detail

How do i play Civ 4? I tried it after playing 5 but its pace is so different i just can't do anything consistent.

>>378120074
Pretty much this for all 4x or similar games (Stellaris for example), and even a lot of other game genres.

Not worth buying until everything is out and patched, also theres the bonus of getting a one package deal thing.

>>378123970
>Civ 6 was everything Civ fans didn't want
As old fan of series(started with civ2 and played first civ on the school computer) civ6 was everything I wanted after pile of shit civ5 was
Game literally gave me a hope that series has a future

Reminder that 6 has as much content as 5+exp but UN diplomatic victory fags are mad their non-victory didn't make the cut

>>378123970

I feel like you're all playing the wrong genre. If you want "detailed mechanics of running an Empire," you want grand strategy.

>>378112762
I don't think there was ever any debate on that.

Can someone here redpill me on whether civ 6 has been patched enough to be worth my money yet?

>>378120580
and of course the mod tools for literally every RotK and NA game are only in jp/chinese

>>378124017
Slavery is king
bring fuckton of siege units but don't forget units to attack
specialize cities, do not build everything
only granaries and probably forges are necessary buildings

>>378124348

It needs one expansion.

>>378124464

cheers

>>378123970
Speak for yourself, I love the art direction

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>>378115612
>>378120580
So much potential too for a Warcraft 4x world with various major and minor factions and various story elements. But of course BlizzAct won't make anything anymore that doesn't at least have the potential to be turned into an e-sport.

>>378121637
Fall from Heaven 2

>>378124464
>It needs one expansion.
i hate how this is acceptable. Civ isn't even a sim game that absolutely requires a lot of content, rather it's pretty repetitive, never mind that Civ6 is more of an improvement over Civ5 unlike the jump between previous Civ games.

Indie strategy / base builder games like Rimworld manage a more solid gameplay minus the pretty graphics.

i blame those leader movie graphics or whatever. Also one of the reasons I'll never bother with custom civs since it'll just never fit in.

>it took 2 years to release Gods and Kings after the civ 5 release

I can't fucking wait that long. I've already played civ 5 to death, I need something fucking new and civ 6 is too crap to provide it

>>378125179
>i hate how this is acceptable.

Civ VI is better than most though. It doesn't feel like they cut out content to sell later, it just doesn't feel "complete."

Civ V was shameless with how it cut out RELIGION just so they could put it in an expansion.

Who the fuck would buy Civ6 when you know they're going to release DLC out of the ass like Civ5 that will never go on sale for a decent price? Might as well wait for the Complete edition because chances are it will cost less for everything than it will for the first expansion alone

>>378125179
I think The Sims having you buy a pets expansion every single time is worse

>>378125282

I'm exactly like you. I even picked up Stellaris to see if would be an appropriate substitute (it's shit).

>>378112762
Civ VI base > Civ V base
Civ VI needs more expansion content.

>>378125668
>Might as well wait for the Complete edition

Some of us don't want to wait literally 5 years to play a new Civ game.

Anyone play the scenarios? In both 5 and 6 I'm having a ton of fun with them, especially in multiplayer. For 6 it's the main thing I do in the game right now, but I feel like almost no-one checks them out.

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>>378123768

YOU FUCKING ARE PLAYING A BOARD GAME WITH MINIATURES, IT'S JUST ON A FUCKING SCREEN YOU DIPSHIT.

>>378127792

I tried playing the Australia scenario but getting a shitload of gold isn't a fun goal. Are the other ones better?

>>378120138
I'm sorry that DLC always makes a game objectively better than it was before.
Otherwise Civ 6 is pretty fully featured as is. The problems come from the balance, AI, and modding tools.

>>378115054
You said it, brother.

>>378124137
Stellaris sucks, even with all its expansions it's a hollow, shallow piece of garbage.

Endless Space 2 is much butter.

Civ 6 isn't a finished game yet you nog, wait for the expansions

>>378115416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYp_joa8wT8

the moment your first modern armor rolls out

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>>378131153
>Endless Space 2 is much butter.
Tell me a single reason to play endless garbage 2 and not galciv2?
You can't, Endless Space 2 isn't that different from the first game and just a shallow and soulless copy of better games

>>378131525
you didn't address my only point which was about Stellaris

>>378113186
this
also why is civ vi so demanding?
my rx 480 roars while trying to play it.
ds3 and tf2 run fine.

>>378115215
>"They can't kill your character if you're not a character"
>PointingBlackMan.jpg

>>378131607
Stellaris at least tried to be something else
This alone makes it better game than poorly made garbage like anything in the endless series

>>378112762
no one asked for a sequel and they still made one thats the issue, theres not enough differences to grant a sequel

>>378126816
Civ 6 is just as good now as Civ 5 is with all of it's expansions. Civ games always age like fine wine, so I'm pretty stoked.

Most mods will blow the base game out of the water, however, especially with Civ's community being large and dedicated.
I don't think I'll ever stop playing modded Civ 4 at this point, and I think I've just found a cocktail of Civ5 mods that'll quench my Civ addiction.

>>378127792
The Civil War scenario in 5 was exhilarating. It would perfect for multiplayer as well, if Civ5 wasn't so retarded about multiplayer and modded games.
Haven't tried any of 6's scenarios yet.

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>Civ V was the last good PC exclusive
>7 years old

How can we save PC games?

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>>378131698
Are you a Paradox dev or something ?
Stellaris is the most pointless game ever, literally nothing ever happens in it; at least the Endless games have a cool background story.

>>378117726

wow men you Ctrl+v are broken now.

>>378114257
But Civ VI already have everything BNW+GK had (well except for the Congress).

>>378116780
What are you talking about?

>>378113001
This, I do not like the new cartoony, mobage style.

>>378131943
Stellaris suffers the same problem any of the other games they make suffer, peacetime is fucking boring with almost nothing to do but build buildings and an army.

>>378132571
no, Stellaris is probably the worst paradox game so far

>>378115076
Most games play like this. You usually either get fucked early and have no chance of catching other civs or you end up coasting ahead and can basically choose to win the game how you want. Domination is always popular because it's quick, so long as the capitals are easy enough to get at.

>>378112762
It's just a wild guess but I believe people prefer the comparatively braindead and repetitive experience of Civ V than having to plan district placement for every match. Eureka boosts are also quite a challenge in itself and not something that's easy to get used to.

>>378132571

Stellaris also has the problem of wartime being boring because there's no tactics outside of spamming ships. And then you have the horrible meta of corvette spam being the most optimal strategy.

>>378112762

I only played 5 at launch and went back to 4.
I heard it got less horrible with expansions but never tried it again.
No one seems to like to remember how bad 5 was at launch.

>>378131525

>shallow and soulless

Have you not actually played any of the Endless stuff? The races and world building are top notch.

>>378123768
>it's an army.
the tile represents a certain area of land. You can't cram an infinite amount of ppl/units onto a finite area. That being said, they should still allow for some sort of stacking. Maybe each tile can hold a personel unit and a vehicle type unit. So a warrior or archer would be a personel, while say a catapult or ram would be a vehicle type; infantry + tank would be a modern take. So it would be more like training a unit of soldiers and constructing a 1 vehicle, which shouldn't take up a tile by itself (1 tank vs 100 man unit). It could easily get more complex than this, but that's just it: these civ games are removing complexity and strategy when it comes to military in favor of cultural stuff.

>>378133334

>No one seems to like to remember how bad 5 was at launch.

I have never, ever seen a discussion about Civ 5 that didn't mention how important the expansions were. Especially Brave New World. It's been said multiple times in this thread already.

>>378133808
All they really say is it is good with expansions though.
Not things like civ 6 vanilla is far better than 5 vanilla.

>>378113058
And it makes my computer want to die. It's a 16Gbs of RAM and a R9390 meme machine that sounds like a 747 Boeing playing this game.

>>378134056

Did you just not read the thread, or is this your first time talking with people about Civ, or what? Civ 5 was garbage on release and didn't become what it is until BNW. Civ 6 was crated by the BNW team and had a much better release. These are things everyone knows. These are things people in this thread have said.

>>378132819
Probably more about the price. Civ V works, and everyone knows it works. Civ VI is still fresh as far as Civ games go, so nobody wants to couch up 60+ to get a broken game when they are still enjoying Civ V/IV.

Seriously, they overrate this franchise. It isn't AAA.

>>378115054
My negro

>>378112762

I want to like new Civ games but BE and 6 have been disappointing.

>>378134056
But Civ VI Vanilla are the one we got at the present, and it sucks compared to the other game.

Its been fucking years since Civ V vanilla came out. Only contrarianfags were the one probably playing that version at this point of time. Its not the exact thing, but why should people play some overglorified next gen game when the old one is more fulfilling?

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>>378131725
You can do the Civ 5 scenarios in multiplayer now, and the 6 scenarios were built for it.

I kind of hated the Civil War one because the best strategy was zerging the capital, but someone interested in that part of history would probably get a lot more out of it. Scramble for Africa was my personal favourite.

>>378123768
Civ is a board game though

>>378124017

4 is just city spamming and covering the world in railroads.

>>378123102
>put one archer on chokepoint
>destroy all AI armies until they get longswords

Why does CivIV fags pretend to love Civ VI just to loathe Civ V?
I mean, can you even play the game on your paperweights you call computer you normally used to play that fav game of yours? Kek

>>378135146

*hides behind a tree*

>>378124017
Get three cities as fast as you can and spam cottages

>>378135213
Is Civ VI really that much more resource intensive? Why would/should it be?

>>378112762
Civ5
>Two expansions polishing the gameplay
>Several years old
>A crapload of sales for a slow as $10

Civ6
>No expansions
>A year old
>One or two sales, none less than like $30

Call me back when Civ6 got two expansions and 75% off sales of the complete pack.

>>378117726
me>you

>>378135507

It's not really.

I think these people are just playing with 22 civs and complaining about late-game slow downs.

>>378132697
That's Sengoku, game still crashes to this day.

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What makes you play Civ? The game feels very static to me.

>>378133618
Not him.
Only played the first Endless Space and while the lore was interesting, gameplay-wise it was indeed shallow and soulless.
And the AI was also notable for cheating even on the easiest settings.

>>378131698
It tried to be every other space 4x game ever made by mishmashing a bunch of different mechanics together in the most generic way possible

>>378135639

I like to feel in control of something

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The AI in Civ VI is absolutely fucking clinically retarted.
One time i completely dominated my neigghbor who was one era further in tech than me.
The Other time i was two fucking eras further than my tree neighbors and literally nuked their spearmen.
I know it was only on King, but in V King difficulty AI atleast could do something properly.

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Why is it so hard for devs to consider that not fucking over your customers could potentially be good for business?

>>378135854
Is it really that bad compared to CiV AI? I'm kind of shit at V anyway (I still lose on King) but I don't really want the AI to be completely rudderless...

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>>378115612
I made a pretty accurate map of Azeroth in the mapbuilder, it's more accurate than any warcraft map on workshop.

>>378135724

>gameplay-wise it was indeed shallow and soulless.

The first Endless Space was a bit of a mess, but it was also their first outing. They've had five years and a second game in between. The core mechanics are robust, the storytelling is engaging, and it handles races both mechanically and thematically better than most 4x I've ever seen. I've seriously enjoyed how the minor changes between races have serious impact on how I'm playing turn to turn.

Don't remember anything about Endless Space's AI. That game fell into a solved state very, very quickly.

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>>378112762
Civ 5 just has more content, doesnt help that civ 6 has worse AI.
Civ 6 was probably better on release then Civ 5 was but Civ 6 just keeps getting shit DLC instead of big expansions.

>>378136284
Imagine a 50 year old sales worker being paid to play Civ.
Then forget that because the AI would still lose 0-10

>>378112762
>a civ game with all it's dlc released and goes on sale a couple times a year
>a new civ game without any of it's dlc released and hasn't dropped from its $80 release price

gee anon it's really a mystery

Doomstacks is what really turned me off in civ 4.

However I really missed how could you customize your government in civ 5. Does civ 6 have a government system like civ 4?

>>378136410
>Don't remember anything about Endless Space's AI.
AI was so retarded they had to give human players penalties and the AI bonuses even on the easiest setting: http://endlessspace.wikia.com/wiki/Game_settings

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>>378136395

Prettier graphics don't work for strategy games. Giant units stomping over your buildings, maps of Europe, star systems with the same background and planets that don't even orbit. It's accepted that they're ugly or silly so you better actually make a game that plays better or has more content. Only exceptions I've found are in the RTS genre, that I'd rather play AoE3 than AoE2 because AoE3 is actually very pretty.

At least the tech tree in VI looks better. Not sure about that boost stuff though.

>To Boost: kill a unit with a Musketman
>for square rigging (boat tech)
wut?

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>>378137497
pic related

>>378114257
you can't win the game on turn 20 with war-carts in civ 5

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>>378131431

>>378112762
For real? Civ v was terrible. Civ 4 was okay. Personally I think civ can't be improved

>>378134204
update your gpu drivers