/v/ on VR

>>378099886
Or it could be the $800 price tag with no real games supported.

>>378100012
there are plenty of real games for vr, super hot to name one.

>>378100175
Super hot is just a game ported to VR. He means games made exclusively for VR.

>>378100235
You clearly haven't played it nor any other vr games if you're going to say this without understanding the sentence I wrote.

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>>378100235

Wilson's Heart, Narcosis, Chronos, The Assembly, BattleZone, Edge of Nowhere, Technolust, Robo Recall, Herobound: Spirit Champion, etc.

These are Oculus though, so if he's only tried Vive he wouldn't know about them. It's true a lot of the Steam VR stuff is just minigames and tech demos.

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>>378099886

>you better buy it now, no matter how underwhelming it is, because the next generation of hardware will surely be better

Wait a minute, that logic...

>>378100771
>no matter how underwhelming it is

Wat

Have you tried it

Have you talked to anybody who has tried it

>>378100823
>Have you tried it

Yeah I have. I fucked around with the Vive a bit when my friend got his hands on a set.

Is my opinion that much of a surprise to you? What do you think the world "underwhelming" means?

>>378099886
If they can magically fix the issue of motion sickness maybe I'd at least consider it.

>>378100235

>exclusive

who cares if they're exclusive or not?

>>378100771
>we will surely get a next generation because I convinced everyone I know to not buy it

Valuing money over fun, anon? Who's the real jew?

>>378100984

I don't believe you. Absolutely every person I have demoed my Rift to was blown away.

Is it just the software that doesn't impress you? If so that's because: >>378100593

All the actual full VR exclusive games are on Oculus because that's who funds their development. If you only tried Vive and didn't play any Oculus games through ReVive that might explain it.

Alternatively it's sour grapes because you can't afford one.

>>378100235
>m-muh inclosives!
fuck outta here consolecuck

>>378101101
he probably meant games made primarily for VR not as a second thought

VR is a meme

VR is cool and all, and I have fun messing around with it on my phone, but it just isn't worth anywhere near $800 for me, especially now that the Gear VR Oculus store has some legitimately good games on it. When the Vive is around $250-300 max, I'd consider it.

>>378101347

4chan also told me Bitcoin was a meme.

>>378101358

I have Gear and am also impressed by how close it comes to the quality of experience I get with my Rift, but it doesn't quite replace my Rift.

If it had inside out tracking for the headset and motion controller, though...

>>378101150

You're a bit of an idiot. Buying a product (regardless of whether or not you want it), simply so the manufacturer can maybe make a better product in the future, is absolutely retarded.

If I see a game, and it looks like shit, I won't buy it just because the sequel might be good.

Also
>if you don't support this product you are actively campaigning against it

I have no reaction to this other than to assume you were dropped on your head as a kid.

>>378100235
Superhot VR isn't a port of Superhot, it's a new Superhot game specifically made for VR

>>378101457

VR does not need to get better to be worth it. It's fantastic right now. You might be thinking of the last 25 years, that's the time it spent improving until it was worthwhile.

>>378101162
>I don't believe you

Then that means you're not interested in discussing this in good faith, and are a borderline shitposter.

Don't bother responding unless you're willing to take me at my word.

>>378101330
but that's preferable, the VR scene is far too small too have adequate budgets for full-sized games
we're better off getting proper games edited for it

>>378101447

How is the experience with watching movies on the Rift? When I'm watching movies alone, I always do it on my Gear VR, because of the awesome movie theater setup, huge screen, and being forced to only see the movie stops me from getting distracted by my phone, and I actually end up enjoying the movie more.

Rift and Vive have lower ppi than most phones, though, don't they? Does watching movies look worse on them?

>>378101584
>Then that means you're not interested in discussing this in good faith

Or that you're lying in order to bolster the credibility of your opinions, in which case you're the one arguing in bad faith.

>Don't bother responding unless you're willing to take me at my word.

It's my hot body, I do what I want.

>>378100235
Have you ever played either version of Super hot?

>>378099886
I don't care for it one bit.

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>>378099886
OP, you're pretending that the problem with VR is a lack of willing adopters. If VR actually did what it claimed to do, people would jump on board immediately. The problem is, it's bulky, unrealistic and boring. Nobody wants to wear a faggot eye mask and wave wands around. Once you can simulate sights, sounds and feelings without bulky equipment and heavy investment, then you'll get somewhere. Until then, it isn't worth it.

>>378101553
>VR does not need to get better to be worth it

Whether or not a product is worth the cost is up to each individual consumer. You can't make that determination for other people. You would know this if you were a bit less retarded.

Well until theres cool ass trubo VR and gundams

But its shit right now

Its all shit

>>378101650

You have positional tracking so it feels more natural. You feel more like you're in the virtual environment (in Bigscreen for example, where I watch movies because it does a good job with 3D blu ray rips) It's also near being able to grab video windows and move them around with Touch

Other than that, not enough of a difference to warrant buying a Rift if you already have Gear. PPI is slightly higher on Gear as you say, though I don't notice it, and more importantly Gear is portable. So you can zone out on a long plane trip.

I have both but Gear is so remarkably good for what it costs that if you don't specifically want it for gaming, there is little reason to buy a Rift as well.

>>378101734
>If VR actually did what it claimed to do

It does. But Oculus funded like 6 demo stations in the entire UK. Most people simply have not tried full desktop VR. At most they have tried shitty cardboard quality VR.

>people would jump on board immediately.

No, $600 is a lot of money for most people.

>The problem is, it's bulky, unrealistic and boring.

Nope

>Nobody wants to wear a faggot eye mask and wave wands around.

Actually millions of people do according to the latest sales figures

>Once you can simulate sights, sounds and feelings without bulky equipment and heavy investment, then you'll get somewhere. Until then, it isn't worth it.

That's your dumb faggot opinion, but you're a nothing and a nobody. Millions of people disagree with you and have bought VR already.

>>378101746
>You can't make that determination for other people.

That's exactly what you did here, though:

>>378101734
>Nobody wants to wear a faggot eye mask and wave wands around. Once you can simulate sights, sounds and feelings without bulky equipment and heavy investment, then you'll get somewhere. Until then, it isn't worth it.

Only good for racing simulators, everything else is just gimmicky shit

>>378102185
>Only good for what I have tried

Go play Resident Evil 7 in VR

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>>378102108

That's not me, dipshit.

Do you really think I'm going to keep up a conversation throughout the thread, then halfway down suddenly respond to the OP with what I initially wanted to say? Why the fuck wouldn't I just start with that?

>>378101734
nah, it's actually worth it. I can only speak as an owner of PSVR, which is the lowest tier of the big three, but it's not uncomfortable, heavy, or very clunky at all. RE7 in VR was the best gaming experience I've ever had in my life. Farpoint, despite not even being a great game by itself, is super fun with the aim controller which is light, intuitive, and incredibly responsive. By far the best way to play a FPS.

>>378102283

Because you're retarded?

>>378102352

And that assumption would be wrong, shitposter-kun.

Better luck next time.

>>378101162
I'd rather not risk getting locked out of content I payed for unless I buy their HMD. Even then the only games on oculus that caught my eye were robo recall, I expect you to die, and Superhot. None of which I am particularly excited about.
On steam it has been mostly stale, with very low quality control on releases and too much garbage to wade through. My vive sits in a box picking up dust, play it once in a blue moon until a show stopper comes along. Hoping one of valves 3 games in development turns out to be really good, the Lab wasn't bad.

For the time being the game I return to the most is H3VR, its fun messing around with guns in a shooting range every once in a while. There are very strict gun laws in this country so it wouldn't be worth the hassle going through the legal mess.

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>>378101682
>>378101520
>>378101301
>>378101101
>>378100593
>>378100528
Alright shills, sell me on VR.

>What games are worth getting (No glorified tech demos)
>Why not wait for the inevitable price drop in 2 years
>How often do you use your Rift/Vive

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>>378102038
>It does
No, it fucking doesn't. It's like playing Wii with a virtual boy headset.

>No, $600 is a lot of money for most people.
And yet in this same fucking reply you claim that it's popular. Pick an argument you dumb nigger.

>Nope
Yes. VR headsets are fucking gigantic, you don't feel anything, and it doesn't let you do anything a regular game doesn't. Take that cock out of your ass.

>Actually millions of people do according to the latest sales figures
"Millions" is fucking nothing. Nobody plays VR.

>That's your dumb faggot opinion, but you're a nothing and a nobody. Millions of people disagree with you and have bought VR already.
You just keep cucking yourself. On the one hand you argue that it's too costly for most people and then you argue that heaps of people are doing it. This is the most blatantly autistic argument I've seen in my life.

>>378102465
>I'd rather not risk getting locked out of content I payed for unless I buy their HMD.

That is only a problem for Vive. The Rift CV1 can play all Steam VR content, no hack required. You only need a hack if you have a Vive and want to play Oculus content.


>None of which I am particularly excited about.

Your shit taste is your own fault

>On steam it has been mostly stale, with very low quality control on releases and too much garbage to wade through.

Agreed

>My vive sits in a box picking up dust

Get ReVive. All the best games are on Oculus Home. A good list here >>378100593

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>>378099886
>takes five generations for good games to come out
>implying anyone will buy it enough to support it for that many generations on no-games
>implying anyone will buy multiple generations of it enough to support it until it gets good games

Listen here, you geriatric brittle old fuck. Do you want me to pound your fucking birdseed bones into dust? I'll pop you in the noggin and break your entire spine if you want you piece of shit. Get off this board; you're a wrinkle sack relic made of spit and shit and nobody wants to share the same hovel with you because you smell like someone wiped their ass with garbage and set the whole shebang on fire.

Have you seen what a young buck's fist can do to your assisted-living face you fucking Alzheimer's sack of shit?

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>>378102548
>>What games are worth getting (No glorified tech demos)

See: >>378100593

Narcosis is deep sea survival horror with gradually intensifying insanity effects. Nothing supernatural, just actual sea creatures and losing your mind. Fantastic voice acting and writing. Only 4 hours long but also only $20.

Wilson's Heart is 8 hours long and extremely polished. Mostly horror but plays like a 3D version of lucasarts point and click games. Black and white, set in the 1940s.

Chronos is Dark Souls in VR.

BattleZone is like the tank scenes from the 1984 TRON made into a game. Controls very fluidly and has a lot of multiplayer game modes. Nothing like an actual tank sim, more like a simplified FPS.

Edge of Nowhere is Uncharted but based on the Lovecraft story At the Mountains of Madness.

Technolust is Transmetropolitan as a game. 1980s cyberpunk environment, point and click style gameplay where you hunt for objects, play arcade games, hack terminals, etc.

Robo Recall is an fps/beatemup hybrid where you can tear wisecracking robots apart with your bare hands. It's free for all Rift owners.

Herobound is classic Zelda in VR. Not like OoT or BotW, it's room to room like LttP. Great puzzles in the dungeons. Also free somehow

Out of these Narcosis blew me away the most. It's short but ends just before the gameplay gets stale, it's all about the story and the atmosphere. Don't watch playthroughs, the ending is an unexpected and masterful punch in the gut.

>>378102559
This. You just BTFO all VR shills.
Its a fucking monitor strapped to your head, just why?

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>>378100771
>just your average gamer.
Not today Shlomo.

>>378099886
Every single point being made here is pure fantasy. The only 'cheap' option is extremely proprietary and the only point there that actually matters is GAMES.

The real problem is that using VR strictly for entertainment is going to kill it. I want that shit to be my fucking desktop. I want to replace my monitors with a headset.

>>378099886
dead platform

it's the 3DO of our time

absurdly overpriced with nogames

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>>378102559
>No, it fucking doesn't. It's like playing Wii with a virtual boy headset.

Haha, retard.

>And yet in this same fucking reply you claim that it's popular. Pick an argument you dumb nigger.

It is unreasonably costly atm. I never denied it. But sales were at 6.3 million combined PSVR, Vive, Rift and GearVR in 2016, I have no idea what it's at now

>Yes. VR headsets are fucking gigantic, you don't feel anything, and it doesn't let you do anything a regular game doesn't.

Go try Narcosis without VR, then with it.

>Take that cock out of your ass.

Are you really that eager to suck the shit off it?

>"Millions" is fucking nothing. Nobody plays VR.

Haha, retard.

>On the one hand you argue that it's too costly for most people and then you argue that heaps of people are doing it.

Those two things can be true at the same time, and currently are.

>>378099886
>that art style
It's from dorkly isn't it

>>378102559
If anyone is a VR shill it's this guy. everything about how he responded in this post right down to the exhausted meme he has on display, the generic buzzwords, and hoe-like behavior just makes it look obvious. "hey i'm a resentful fuccboi that doesn't have any money fuck you and fuck VR waaaaaaah kys cuck". if your going to try to induce cringing please make it look less obvious next time.

>>378102896
>>takes five generations for good games to come out

See >>378102997

I'm waiting for the final version. this first iteration of VR seems like its just a beta test for what the tech can actually become, and theres only one game that actually seems good for it atm, Onward.

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>>378103218

>literally has a Dorkly watermark
>"IS THAT DORKLY?"

>>378103131

Bigscreen lets you do this already, you just have to crank up the font size so it's readable.

>>378099886
call me when they solve the nausea problem for good and I'll try it again. Otherwise it's an expensive waste that doesn't add much to the hobby.

>>378102038
>But Oculus funded like 6 demo stations in the entire UK.

And no-one used them.

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>>378100593
I NEED YOU TO TELL ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW WHY SUPERHOT VR ISNT ON THAT LIST

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

FUCK

YOU

>>378099886
get good & cheep or fuck off

>>378103327
>I'm waiting for the final version.

You'll be dead by then.

>theres only one game that actually seems good for it atm

See >>378102997

Stupid fucking market-researcher dipshits need to get their gross jew goblin ass into gear and start producing some PS2-tier quality games for anyone to give a shit about their motion sickness simulators.

What fucking moron thinks that you HAVE to have handset motion controls for it to be immersive? Fucking third person games on the PS1 and N64 were immersive as fuck because they were well made. Stop trying to overcome the "fatasses have to sit in a chair" problem. Being able to feel like you're really moving around the environment and touching shit with your flimsy wiimotes isn't a primary concern for people who would support this product indefinitely for a good library, it's a concern for no-brain leech stock holders who want to sell the extra equipment so they can buy some retarded boat they'll never use.

>>378103246
>Narcosis
Polished 2deep4u turd with obvious horror effects
>Wilson's Heart
Gimmick shit as said above
>Chronos
The fact you even mentioned it makes you a shill, nobody fucking gives a shit about it you ratty little fucking kike.
>BattleZone
Inferior to source mods
>Edge of Nowhere
Gimmick shit
>Technolust
Gimmick shit
>Robo Recall
Gimmick shit
>Herobound
Gimmick shit

Not a single good exclusive you fat fucking nigger.

>>378103387

It's a stretch to call it a full, fleshed out game. The ones I listed have the same depth as games already on PC or console.

>>378103404

It is good, it's just not cheap.

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>>378103460

Invalid opinions, invalid person, go to the landfill nearest you and remain there until you fully decompose

>>378103460
You probably also think Fallout 4 is bland, hate every Souls game after DeS, and don't enjoy Mario Party.

>>378103572
This

>>378103351
That's not what I mean, cut steam out entirely and redesign the 'desktop' so instead of using a virtual monitor the desktop is something like points in space floating around me. Have the operating system recognize the headset and create the environment.

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>>378102548
Why did you choose the posts saying Super Hot VR isn't the same game as Super Hot?
They aren't even saying if it's a good game.

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>>378103578
>You probably also think Fallout 4 is bland

>>378103671
Microsoft is literally doing this

>>378103415
none of those interest me personally, I'll be interested when its got more games like Onward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76MEF0Q6qA

And yes there will probably be a second superior iteration of VR tech way before I'm dead, you're either false flagging as a desperate shill or actually a desperate shill, just stop it.

>>378103578
>You probably also think Fallout 4 is bland

Everyone with at least half a brain thinks that.

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>>378103179

>Haha, retard.
And yet you are literally the retard with no argument for why this is incorrect. Ironic.

>It is unreasonably costly atm. I never denied it. But sales were at 6.3 million combined PSVR, Vive, Rift and GearVR in 2016, I have no idea what it's at now
LOL! 6.3m between 4 fucking brands. This is actually worse than I thought.

Go try Narcosis without VR, then with it.
And yet "Narcosis with VR" is still gigantic, ugly, expensive and doesn't let me feel anything.

>Are you really that eager to suck the shit off it?
No, but thanks for admitting that you had a cock in your ass.

>Haha, retard.
Another autistic comment because you couldn't think of anything better to say. Cringe.

>Those two things can be true at the same time, and currently are.
You really are this stupid.

>>378103572
>named tumblr reaction image from a shitty /co/ show

Get over it, Trump won and you lost.

>>378103791
>none of those interest me personally

The fact that you don't want the games on offer does not mean VR doesn't have any good, fully fleshed out games

>And yes there will probably be a second superior iteration of VR tech way before I'm dead

You didn't say second. You said final.

>>378103862
>expensive and doesn't let me feel anything.

You can't feel anything because of brain damage

I still like to play traditional games, but once I put the headset on it took approximately 2 seconds to realize that VR, even in its nascent stages, is so fucking vastly superior to any other form of gaming. It's not even up for discussion, it can be trolled, but the truth can't be fucked with. every person I've showed it to were blown away.

>>378103974
what a coincidence that's also why you can't sell anything

I hope you don't meet your shill quota and your kids fucking starve in front of you.

>>378103879

How is that working out for you? I voted Johnson btw because I'm not a banjo plucking, six fingered toothless bumpkin retard

Probably this is also why I have money for VR and you don't

>>378103986

Same. Only thing I don't play on it is isometric 2D stuff like Factorio.

>>378104028

>I hope you don't meet your shill quota and your kids fucking starve in front of you.

No danger of that, I'll feed your kids to them. You've fattened them up nicely on a diet of your own semen

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>>378104053
>I voted Johnson btw
>because I'm not a banjo plucking, six fingered toothless bumpkin retard

That's the only reason anyone would vote for him you dirty nigger.

>>378103897
whatever, not buying the alpha version of the product and THATS final.

>>378104125
Are you saying you'd feed your kids semen? Reported to the FBI, Hiro fully cooperates with them enjoy getting shanked in a federal penitentiary you fucking pedophile.

>>378099886
It cost's 1500 NZD, that's a fucking ridiculous price tag seeing as you still need a computer and to buy games (of which there's only like 5 worthwhile atm). I like video games, but not that much.

it took 50 years for VR to finally get good games.
what a shit comic

>>378103781
They're trying but it's not going well. I've gone to a bunch of their demos and the hololens is a joke. The only impressive thing about it is the very nice surround sound and no cords. Everything about the display is terrible, most of it being the fov. They have this weird function where it tries to detect objects around you and place something behind them (and just not render parts of it) but it straight up doesn't work and freaks the fuck out when anything is within five feet of you.

Of course they're doing everything in R&D but we won't see much of anything they do and it's going to be a long time before they put something worthwhile out. The hololens is clearly just a proof of concept.

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>>378103974
>"You're brain damaged because you don't pretend that VR provides realistic tactile feedback"
I didn't know it was possible to be this autistic.

Tell me when VR isn't just strapping monitors to your eyes and using two wiimote.

>>378102997
If you know that much on VR you could tell me if the OR DK2 is viable for most games as well.

Does it have full game support or what?

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>>378099886
Maybe once it gets cheaper.

I had PSVR and it was pretty awesome. Too bad there isn't much worth playing on it though. I'll wait for PC VR to get cheaper before I try again.

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People in this thread complaining about VR: 10

Number of those same people who own VR: 0


Really j o g g i n t h a t n o g g i n

>>378104128
It's mom, and its time for bed. Don't think for a second that your stepdad won't hear about that filthy language you've been using on here because OH HE WILL. And don't you worry, you're gonna get all the attention you've been craving tomorrow mister.

>>378104557
It's pretty reasonable to complain about a 800 Dollar device and not getting it because it doesn't seem worth it yet.

If I wanted to move my body I'd go outside
I just want to sit on my couch with a beer in hand and play some vidya

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>>378104557
Let me fix that for you anon.
>People in this thread complaining about VR: 40
>People on this earth that own VR: 40

>>378104535
agree it needs more games but

>DIRT
>RE7
>Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
>Thumper
>Farpoint

are all fun as fuck

I'm weary of the tech demos though, although Statik sounds like a fun 3 hr experience when it goes on sale.

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>>378104557
>you need to throw down hundreds of dollars on something to begin criticizing it

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>>378104846
Too bad steam shows several thousand playing right now.

Over 500,000 vives sold so far.

Good attempt though.

>>378104925
In this case, yes.

VR is an experience.

>>378104929
>several thousand
wowee

>>378104253

not holo lens, he means Microsoft is making a VR centric version of Windows

>>378104991
Do I have to blow hundreds of thousands of dollars on a Lamborghini to point out that Lamborghinis are too expensive, too?

>>378104384

Wiimote didn't have absolute positioning, and with a display for each eye you get much better 3D than you can with shutterglasses. You don't look at the display consciously, you look at the 3D world. You see "through" the displays to what is beyond them.

You can describe any technology, no matter how remarkable the subjective experience of it, in reductionist terms. Manned spaceflight is just monkeys riding a firework. The internet is just wires between computers. Doesn't diminish it any.

>>378099886
I don't understand this comic. We still haven't gotten past the first picture at our current point in time. Is the author predicting the future or what?

>>378104798

Yeah, I have VR and love it but this is fair. It's just too expensive right now. People are trying to make it out to be shit because they don't want to believe they are missing out.

They are missing out. It actually is fucking awesome. It's just unfairly costly.

>>378104991
>VR is an experience.

Every piece of entertainment on this planet is an experience.

You just said absolutely nothing. You shouldn't have bothered to even post.

>>378100012
>No real games
>Cosmic trip was just released, the best single player RTS in fucking years, vr only
Yeah ok

>>378104823

Many VR games don't require you to move. Edge of Nowhere for example is a seated, third person game. So is Narcosis. Yooka Laylee can be played in VR.

You, like many people in this thread, seem to be extrapolating your experience with Vive roomscale demos as if it represents all of VR

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>>378105238
This and only this.

>>378104798
I can get the price point being an issue, although the psvr headset is significantly less expensive and still extremely fun. I'll just never get why people who, having never played VR, will repeatedly try to bash it and are praying for it's downfall. It just seems like some resentful old man shit or something. Not even really upsetting, it's just bizarre. But yeah, if you can't afford it then of course you should wait for the price to drop, and hopefully the tech will also improve by then. But for the record, despite a lack of full length AAA quality titles at the moment it truly is a superior way to experience video games right now. It's also fun to witness the slow realization of potential with respect to what is actually possible in vr, and think of what may be on the horizon. There is some shit you may see in a youtube vid that looks boring as hell that's actually feels incredible in vr. I'm not trying to brag or anything, but it's true.

>>378104991
Yeah, the experience of blowing almost a thousand to get motion sickness and nogaem

>>378099886
>Damnit. That looks fun.
Unlike Dorkly.

>>378105471
>despite a lack of full length AAA quality titles

RE7? All of these? >>378102997

I agree with the rest though

It's not virtual reality, it's a motion controlled screen strapped to your face.

>>378105373
I have VR as well and yeah. That's the truth. I can totally understand how people can't come up with that kind of cash though. It sucks, but don't do it if you can't at the moment. I really hope it comes down in price in the next few years, more people deserve to enjoy this.

>>378105484
>I get motion sickness, so everybody does

I don't. Not a problem for me.

>>378105176
You can describe any technology, no matter how remarkable the subjective experience of it, in reductionist terms.
Not that anon but it isn't really "reductionist" in the slightest. Can I walk into a VR room without any bulky equipment on, see a virtual girl and have her suck my cock? No. So it isn't really virtual reality, it's a glorified Wii, and that's the problem we face here.

>>378105578

That's what VR means. Apparent reality, generated by computer. It does not specify how you interface with it in the definition.

>>378105745
>works on my computer
:^)

>>378105804

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virtual%20reality

>>378105804
>see a ... girl and have her suck my cock? No.
>and that's the problem we face here.

pretty revealing post guy

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>>378105890
>using a dictionary to argue your point for you
Cancer.

>>378099886
The controls are honestly the biggest turnoff. I'll wait until they have something a bit better.

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>>378106005
Yes, yes, I'm a weeb virgin and all that. Now, back to the actual point -- VR doesn't actually emulate reality. End of discussion.

Robot recall is exactly what I want from a VR game until we can get proper movement figured out. It is super playable, and super responsive. I'm not a fan of the dumb catching bullets stuff but it's just a novelty thing.

>>378106095

Yeah, Touch is a big step up from the Vive wands but I still find myself wanting some kind of data glove.

I don't know how they will do haptic feedback in gloves, but that's what I want, so it feels like I am actually holding a gun, groping a titty or whatever.

>>378106206

Artificial locomotion is 100% fine by me desu. Smooth movement plus smooth turning, I don't know why devs shy away from it, the brain adapts after a few play sessions and motion sickness goes away.

>>378106273
Because one bad experience is all it takes for a person to say "wow this is terrible I will never touch this again" including the 80 year old men they have to market this shit to to get funding.

VR will only be worth it when we get waifus.

>>378106209
got a psvr and love the new aim controller (you guys got any cool guns yet?) but holy shit am I jealous of you guys and the touch controllers. That shit looks awesome.

>>378106464

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nEgYcG-_Gg

>>378106209
Haptic feedback on a glove would need several motors and it would drive the price up pretty high. touch controllers work because they're basically just a bunch of sensors and triggers, which are all really really cheap, even in the volume they have them.

A glove like what you suggest would be possible, but the sensors and motors would sooner be viable for movie making as a replacement for mocap than as a gaming utility.

>>378106607

There's various holders that make the Touch controllers feel like various real world rifles

I am jelly you get RE7 a year before me.

I have tried PSVR and the low resolution was a let down, but understanding the engineering difficulties involved in HMD design, it's really remarkable they could attain that level of quality for $400 and I would say it's just above the threshold where I could enjoy the games anyway.

Glass lenses also don't have either god rays or fresnel rings. Good call on Sony's part even if it adds a little bit of weight.

>>378106749

I am picturing something like artificial muscle fibers along the back of each finger that can apply variable resistance.

>>378106646
Custom waifus

Fuck VR, ARG is the future.

>>378105076
And you really think that M$ of all companies isn't going to go with proprietary hardware?

>>378106853

Sounds good. We should be able to make something like that sophisticated enough for entertainment right around the time we start colonizing Mars.

>>378107070
Nah, VR took a fat steamy shit all over augmented reality stuff. oculus rift literally sucked all hype from google glass, google dropped AR, so did everyone else.

>>378107394
Not microsoft!

>>378107841
hololens is also incredibly bulky and inefficient and not viable for regular daily use which is the point of AUGMENTED reality. It's not a fucking HUD, it's an enormous screen glued to your face.

Also no one actually uses hololens yet. They JUST put out a developer suite to china, stuff MIGHT start happening, but it remains to be seen.

>>378108369
Eh, hololens is incredibly expensive and offers pretty much nothing, as I said before it's just a proof of concept and if MS is gonna continue down the AR path then we should wait and see what they come out with next.

>>378107080

I bet they will, but rumor has it they're targeting a $300 price point. That's with the same specs as PSVR, but still.

>>378108369

The problem with AR is that they are trying to do see-through transparent refractive displays using some kind of acrylic prism fuckery which inherently limits the fov.

If you just develop wide fov high res VR and then stick two cameras on it, presto, you have good AR.

Of course that's bulkier but it's the only way to have an actual good AR experience

>>378108369
>They JUST put out a developer suite to china
Hasn't that been available worldwide for a while now?

>>378108896
Nope. They offered to some countries in the EU, and the US. china JUST now got it, first area in asia that has it.

>>378108484
that's my point it's not really viable and microsoft absolutely has it on the back burner. I expect once they release scorpio we'll see some real support for stuff with it since it'll be next up for the R&D team.

>>378109025
Are you talking about the time it takes to ship or it simply being offered?
I'm on the order screen right now, anyone can get that.

>>378109025

I have a lot of friends who have their hearts set on AR and it's been fun watching their dreams get crushed. Quality AR is as far away now as quality VR was in the 1990s.

>>378099886
>tfw no matter what happens we'll all be dead before the fun version of VR is out
Fuck it all

>>378109157
DEVELOPER. SUITE. The tools to make applications and shit to use WITH the hololens JUST got to china, who will undoubtedly make 99% of the functional tools for use with hololens. And the fucking device has been out how long?

>>378109254

How many consoles have you owned? Did you wait until the current gen to buy one? Are only the current consoles any good?

>>378109316
Yeah I'm actually interested in this shit and I can't find anything about what you're going on about. I've found a whopping one article that only says the two versions the rest of the world has (dev and business) are now available in china.

Got a link to anything?

>>378102997
Haven't played any of those except Battlezone, and it's a solid 5/10. If it's on the list for best VR games, then I've got no problem ignoring it for a few generations.

>>378102997
None of those games are really system sellers. Neither would they be without VR. Adding an expensive visual device doesn't really justify the quality of the games, and what I have tried (Nacrosis, and Superhot), it doesn't hold up for very long.

VR needs shit like Arma, Portal, Soma, TES or FO games etc. I appreciate how far VR has come, but it's hard to justify the price tag when the games are all so-so.

I'll probably buy one when most any game (when it makes sense) supports it.

>>378109532

Don't judge the whole list by the one game you tried and didn't like.

>>378109563

You nevertheless can't deny that they are real games, not gimmicky demos.

there's still 0 non porn game interesting to me out for any of the devices
your shittty webcomic is not going to change that

>>378109390
Didn't you see the comic?
The cool one with actual laser guns and shit comes out after we die

The last two are the cool ones, the rest are just goggles and shit

>>378109690
Well yes, I would call them games, just anything I'd buy a VR for. It looks like something I'd love to try at a convention or at a friends place if they have one. But as I said, when the big players gets in on the action, and Valve definitely has something big coming up for VR, it'll get more interesting to throw your money at it.

>>378099886
>Guy that play VR stays young
>The one who doesn't becomes old
What a stupid comic.

>>378109709
All I want is what the cartoons promised. I want to put on a vr headset and be in an internet city.

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>>378099886
>people honestly bought into VR early because it has a few indie tech demo """"games""""

>VR
>Cheap

ayy call me back when it costs around 300$, if even.

Reminder that VR shilling threads contain literally every single person who's bought a VR headset, and that's why it failed.

>>378099886
>dammit that looks fun
>still basic bitch gameplay
ha!

VR is gimmick.

>>378110645
*is a

>>378110296

Janus VR does this, but it's a ghost town most of the time. It feels like a modernized Worlds.com

>>378112013
Does it have scripting?

>>378112143

Yes. You can actually build an environment purely using xml if your autism is powerful enough.

>>378112405
>xml
So what you're saying is everything is a static environment and I can't something like a Haus de Shitposte that's basically just a 4chan knockoff?

>>378112546

OH that kind of scripting. No it's not static, you can have interactive stuff. 4chan and the other one I can't type the name of without it being taken for spam both already have rooms there.

>>378112664
infinity?

>>378112789

Yah. The scripting is so robust, some people have coded entire games within Janus VR like arena shooters or simple, short RPGs. That's rare though, most people just built rooms.

People built and then abandoned some really cool shit though. Like recreations of places from Earthbound and Cave Story.

>>378112839
Goddamnit

I guess I'm getting a vive. Do they ever go on sale?

>>378112923

Actually you can get them steeply discounted, used, on eBay or Craigslist. They will have somebody elses sweat soaked into the foam facial interface but that's removable and replacements are cheap.

Dorkly comics are fucking trash

>>378112993
Yeah that's the idea.

Still need to buy a rig that can do VR but I needed a new machine anyways.

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Gonna borrow Oculus (no controllers) from a friend. What games should I play?

>>378113408

Oh, no Touch? Still has gamepad right? In that case:

-Narcosis
-Herobound
-Chronos
-EVE Valkyrie
-Blazerush
-Lucky's Tale
-Edge of Nowhere
-BattleZone
-Technolust

>>378113984
saved the list, thanks

Anyone have that image of wojak with bloodshot eyes removing a VR headset?

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>>378115764

Sure, here

>>378106607
I spent months looking forward to Farpoint, but I got Oculus/Touch a month or so before it released, and it really stole the Aim's thunder. Those controllers are accurate and reliable as hell, while my Aim goes out of whack occasionally, and needs to be reset. I also hate how if you aim the controller in such a way as to block the camera's view of the headset's lights, your vision has a fucking seizure.

All that said, PSVR and Oculus both have their respective strengths and weaknesses, and I've gotten a shitload of use out of both of them. Playing Rush of Blood for the first time still stands as some of the most fun I've had playing a game in the last couple of years.

>>378116471

As an Oculus owner (with Touch) I am still impressed at how good PSVR actually is for the $400 price point. Sony engineers are wizards.

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PLEASE

PLEASE BUY VR

IT'S GOOD NOW, I SWEAR, FACEBOOK WON'T PAY ME IF YOU DON'T BUY IT

>>378099886
>Has good reasons not to buy a new console
>Catches up to now where there are still no good games for it
>Assumes people will still be complaining after good games come out because "HURR PEOPLE JUST WANNA COMPLAIN ITS NOT LIKE THEY HAVE LEGITIMATE REASON TO DOUBT VR'S ABILITIES"

>Dorkly
Oh, that explains it.

>>378099886
VR just sounds really inconvenient to me

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>MUH VR IS GREAT IT DIDNT FLOP SHUT UP

Riddle me this, my dear VRcucks: If VR wasn't a massive disappointment, then why do I never see threads discussing VR games? Have you seen VR game threads around? Have you ever seen people talk about VR and VR games outside of the context of rabidly defending it in threads like these? Really makes you think, doesn't it?

>>378119656
Because faggots like you feel the need to pour in, and shit them up. There's active VR discussion on reddit.

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>>378120719
If you were trying to defend VR, boy did you do a bad job. Thanks for confirming everyone's suspicions though.