Shit games /v/ memed you into playing.

>>378094565
Are you autistic?

>>378094565
>if I didn't like a game then everyone but me is wrong for liking it
Quality thread OP

Lol.

>>378094565
please tell us more about you knowing better than each individual that had fun in that fun game

>>378094636
Unfortunately not. I might have enjoyed this mindless shit if I was.

git gud

So is this game any good? I've been opinions varying from "best metroidvania ever" to "It's crap". I'm curious 'cause there a switch port underway and I might pick it up.

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>replying in a thread made by LaMulana Autists

no wonder we have countless "HOW DO WE FIX /VEE/ threads"
people like you

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>>378094843
It's the first (if you skip ESA since it is kinda minimalistic) proper metroidvania simialr to SoTN quality since 1997
so yes

>>378094938
SoTN is a piece of shit though

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>>378095026

>>378094843
OP here. No.

Movement is floaty, combat is quite literally mindlessly run towards direction/mash attack, color scheme is horrible, every level is just black, white and MAYBE a light neon blue/green if you're lucky. It feels incredibly linear in that there's only one way you can go, but you'll hit 10 different rooms you can't yet traverse before you find the proper way, and wonder why the fuck it's so poorly laid out, boss fights are lack luster, every piece in the soundtrack sounds like the title screen of FFX.

Basically at the game's best it's tedious. At it's worst it's frustrating. I mean--- best Metroidvania ever! The game is truly a piece of art.

>>378094843
Anyone who says it's bad is legitimately retarded, probably the same retards who suck off Witcher 3 or similar trash.
It's the best metroidvania in existence and the GOTY easy

>>378095192
Hi Team Cherry! How's the weather in kangaroo land this time of year?

>>378094565
That's okay, Anon. Not all good games are for everyone. There are plenty of good games I don't like

>BUT NO IT'S SHIT YOU'RE WRONG FOR LIKING IT

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>>378095164

>>378095283
Kill yourself.

>>378095357
Quality rebuttal of my complaints, Anon! I'm buying extra copies of this magnificent game after your persuasive points!

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>>378095429

Its a pretty fun game that I got 50 hours out of before putting it down. It isn't revolutionary or the best metroidvania or anything, but enjoyable nonetheless.

>>378095026
I wouldn't go that far but it's probably the worst "Metroidvania"-style Castlevania

Not sure which I think is the best. Probably PoR or CotM

>>378094843
Not sure about Keyboard controls, but on a Controller, it's exceptionally fluid. Bosses are various enough to not feel samey, are all visually interesting even if some of them are easy, but overall combat is good at best, meh at worst. The exploration is the #1 draw. Worth a pirate if you don't got $15.

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I too want to be part of an Indie developer team to shitpost and shill my game in a board that hates videogames and is full of autistic screechings.
Come on now, OP, either you loved it or hated it, this board is always contrarian.
Just play.

>>378094843
Switch port might come at the end of the year when all the planned content is released

>>378094843
Played it for 10 hours straight, partially crippling my thumb in the process. I like it.

>>378095918
Switch version?
Actually sounds fitting desu

>>378094846
>>378095192

how come hollowshills are always so quick to insult other games. he doesnt like it, get over it

there we go, you've summoned him OP
dumb retard

>>378094565
how the fuck does this board meme you into playing a game

>>378096549
Good. He made me waste bandwidth pirating this turd, I want to make him waste his time talking about how amazing this game is but never actually saying why it's amazing.

>>378096498
ITS THE BEST GAME EVER REEEEEEEEEE

Free content update soon-ish, fellow vessels

As a person who wasn't ever big on Castlevania and Metroid, the game is enjoyable. Presentation-wise, it is polished. I like the artstyle. I like the atmosphere and the aesthetic choices. It's unique. For the actual gameplay, you have the same slash move for your attack, but you can unlock other types of spells. It felt a little repetitive up until I got the next unlock and then repeat. The content is huge and there's much to explore. I give it 7/10. I don't think it's even close to GOTY, but it's one of the better games this year. If you're not a huge fan of the genre like me, you might not be over the fence about it, but I can see how fantastic this game would be if I really, really loved the genre.

>>378094565
>I bought this game and it's your fault. I literally literally have no control over my own actions

>>378096648
Source?
On the update itself, I've heard there's 2 freebies planned plus a paid.

>>378096648
Any ETA on that or info on what it is? I have a DRM-free copy on HB, I don't wanna download if it's coming soon or if it's something substantial

>>378094846
that guy posting smug anime girls and 2hu pics is actually a known /jp/ shitposter called MaZe, who is also LaMulana autist
Also it's obvious you are that one Hollowfag that get's triggered when someone mentions LaMulana, please stop before MaZe appears here too

>>378096626
OP may be on to something. After all, you guys convinced me Ayylien Isolation was worth a purchase. It wasn't.

>>378096648
If they keep this pace up, I'm afraid a lot of people won't stay interested for long

>>378096750
>buying games before you play them
kek no. I'm not that big of a faggot.

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>>378094565
i just need them to patch the freezes and unresponsive controls and i'll be set to enjoy this

>>378095164
Oh. You didn't actually play it then.

>>378096773
>>378096774
http://teamcherry.com.au/hk-done-quick-over-100000-sold-art-pizza-thumbs-up/

They don't seem to like giving ETAs and it's killing me. Time never seems to be passing fast enough

>>378096626
Because in every metroidvania thread (even for non-HK related games) there's always the one autist going on about how it's the best metroidvania ever made and how X other game is shit. You can't even talk about a different game in the genre without it being brought up and they go to absurd lengths just to try to discredit other games.

>>378095748
what controller did you use? I'm having issues with this game for some reason having unresponsive jump and heal commands

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>>378096893
Quality rebuttal of my complaints, Anon! I'm buying extra copies of this magnificent game after your persuasive points!

>>378097096
I pirate games as well, anon. Why would you buy a copy of it when you pirated it. It's a single player game you know.

>>378097218
Because you've opened my eyes! This is truly the greatest Metroidvania ever and easily GOTC. I currently have 4 copies in my Steam cart so I can support the devs!

>>378095164
>Movement is floaty
factually wrong

>combat is quite literally mindlessly run towards direction/mash attack
at this point it's clear you haven't played the game because that would just get you killed 100 times in a row

>color scheme is horrible, every level is just black, white and MAYBE a light neon blue/green if you're lucky
variety of many vibrant and beautiful colors in every area from black and white to green and purple, one of the best color directions in this generation of gaming
yep definitely horrible

>It feels incredibly linear in that there's only one way you can go
immediately presented with 6 or more ways to go and always branching out even more

>it's so poorly laid out
map design is one of the best in metroidvanias

>boss fights are lack luster
amazing variety and cast of unique bosses, all challenging as hell and pleasant to fight

>every piece in the soundtrack sounds like the title screen of FFX
great soundtrack variety from mellow slow piano pieces to hype as fuck fanfare metal during boss fights

There you go, copy and paste next time to save time.

Is there a date for the switch version?

>>378097279
>>combat is quite literally mindlessly run towards direction/mash attack
>at this point it's clear you haven't played the game because that would just get you killed 100 times in a row
Sure bud, I guess I was just dreaming when I got through 5 hours of the game doing nothing but this.

>>378094565
Thank you for reminding me how unbelievably shit /v/ has become in the past few months by showing what once good threads have become

How the hell did you faggots manage to make the board go even more downhill so quickly?

>>378094565
You have a shit taste.

The combat is shallow. It's a pretty game but it feels unrewarding to kill something. Even dark souls had better combat.

>can't discuss either Hollow Knight nor La-Mulana because of that one thread where two autists got mad at each other
why do you do this /v/?
one of those autists also made it impossible to discuss Rabi-Ribi either

>>378094843
it's a very slow burner
it's pretty fucking boring until you get the wall jump/get to the city which takes about 4-5 hours

>Enjoyed Hollow Knight
>Enjoyed La-Mulana
>Enjoyed ESA

I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you people. Just enjoy videogames.

>>378097404
Maybe anons stopped playing what /v/ recommends. I sure as hell don't.

>>378097575
>basing what you play off of what a board says either way
I played it before the /v/ threads

>>378097386
how far did you go? because you cant do that against bosses or shield enemies or the ones in the grave area

>>378097074
PS3.

>>378097663
Oh sorry, rarely sometimes you jump backwards, and then run forward mashing attack. Very rewarding and fun.

>>378094938
>ESA
What is ESA?

>>378097551
but you don't understand Anon!
that one autist called [game I like] shit while calling [game he likes] a masterpiece! I MUST shitpost every thread that mentions [game he likes]!

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>>378095164
>mindlessly run towards direction/mash attack
that is literally how metroidvania works you dumb cunt

>>378097663
Considering the fact that he thinks the games color is black and white I'm guessing he didn't get to green path and thinks the mini bosses were regular bosses

>>378097627
What the hell games could /v/ recommend that I already don't know about?

>>378097854
environment station alpha

>>378097854
environmental station alpha

you play as a pixel that shoots pixels at pixels

>>378097876
wow green path now instead of everything being slightly blue everything is slightly green

>>378097404
It's just how the board operates. Someone says something completely fucking bonkers and a thread full of discussion happens when people call that guy an idiot.

>>378095710
>I wouldn't go that far but it's probably the worst "Metroidvania"-style Castlevania
>Not sure which I think is the best. Probably PoR or CotM

What a fucking retarded opinoin

>>378097854
Eat Shit Asshole

>>378098039
>slightly
I know you're shitposting but I still can't believe how awful /v/ has become in just a few months.
>>378098065
Hollow Knight threads have been ruined for a while now because a bunch of autists promoted a game war with it and other metroidvanias

>>378096870
This.
That half second before jumping is killing me.

>>378097869
And that makes it good, how?

>>378097876
>h-he just didn't get to the boring level that's black, white, AND green!
k

>>378098129
>I know you're shitposting but I still can't believe how awful /v/ has become in just a few months.

Yea yea /v/ is so awful because theres people who don't like hollow knight you keep saying this in every single metroidvania thread.

>>378097854
European Speed Assembly

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FUCK. THE. SOUL. SANCTUM.

FUCK IT TO FUCKING HELL.

I CAN'T FUCKING BEAT THIS FUCKING PART

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THE GAME HAS NO RIGHT TO BE THIS HARD.

>>378094565
MGS V.
Inferior to Chaos Theory in every respect, but /v/ seems to love it. Why is it so hard to make a better game than a decade-old Splinter Cell title?

>>378098174
It's awful because it's never any real points and it's clearly shitposters hopping on a bandwagon caused by a bunch of autists.
You'll be shitting on La Mulana and other games in a thread once you have the opportunity

>>378098331
A lot of my perma-death mode runs ended there. Be patient, Anon! Plenty of fodder enemies to heal off of

>>378098039
B-BUT YOU THROW UP LITTLE GREEN LEAVES WHEN YOU RUN

IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL AND COLORFUL AND WELL DESIGNED AND TOTALLY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE EVERY OTHER BLAND LEVEL IN THIS GAME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>378098129
I take it back I guess he's just retarded and 12

>>378098378
The color scheme in Hollow Knight is shit. Deal with it.

>>378098105
>>378097903
>>378097968
Cool. Thanks.

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>>378098151
>wahhh game has no color
>how about this color
>wahhh it adds more color.

Are you aware of just how stupid you sound?

>>378098378
I've read their posts ITT and they give more points than any of your responses.

>>378098459
Quality rebuttal of my complaints, Anon! I'm buying extra copies of this magnificent game after your persuasive points!

>>378094938
ESA has problems with the way it handles it's own openness, which is to say it give the illusion that you can do some optional stuff, but really you can't quite yet, up until you get the Keycard for the gold blocks,

Before that point, every fucking time you get a new power and think to yourself "Now I can go back and make progress here, here, and here" you end up actually only being able to move forward one additional screen before getting blocked by a different upgrade you don't have yet.
It's pretty bullshit actually.

>>378098517
You probably just wanted it to be more pixelshit
>>378098578
>i've read "their" posts
No you haven't

>>378098564
>>wahhh it adds more color.
And it's still very muted and many areas are still extremely samey to the point of being indistinguishable from one another. You bring up the green area because its the only place with a color other than grey that you can remember.

>>378098593
But people have proven you wrong on every count in this thread. Why do you keep being autistic? I hope your country gets range banned

>>378098564
I said in my beginning complaint that it's always black, white, and either blue or green.

Not my fault you're purposefully ignoring my complaint and moving the goalposts in your desperate attempt to pretend this game isn't dull and bland.

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I never finished this fucking game. I put like 30 hours into it and I'm pretty sure I was almost done with it but then Zelda game out and I never came back to it.

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I happen to really like desaturated blues and other colors

>>378098659
>>i've read "their" posts
>No you haven't
lol ok? What am I supposed to say to this? Are you just gonna pretend they dont exist?

>>378098695
>But people have proven you wrong
Where?

>>378098375
>he plays Meta Gear Solid 5 for the stealth

>>378095026
I wouldn't say piece of shit but every time I try to replay it I play until around the doppelganger, save, quit, promise I'll go back tomorrow, and never do. Every time. I want to believe it's a good game but, man, I dunno.

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>>378098728
Yeah man, me too

>>378098728
BUT GREENPATH IS DESATURATED GREEN

I BET YOU NEVER EVEN MADE IT THERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S 20 MINUTES INTO THE GAME

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>>378094565
Never again will I listen to v. Fuck you for your shit taste.

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>>378098845
>all that blue
wow disgusting

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>>378098850
Yeah dude, blue
LOL
>>378098989
>green and orange is blue
So you're colorblind

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>that poor idiot actually arguing with LaMulana Autist

you are new here, arent you?

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aquaria >>>>>> hollowSHIT

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you really should re-read the thread and re-evaluate your understanding of what he is and then make a proper decision what to do

>>378098331
I was like 2 hits from beating the soul master or whatever without dying, second time I fucking mopped his ass up get good

>>378094565
you have shit taste then you cum gargling redditor, consider suicide. Hollow Knight is a fantastic game and metroidvania

>>378099031
You're obviously too emotionally invested in this to continuing arguing. Maybe tumblr is more your speed.
>I-it's slightly tinted yellow in this part!
Sad.

>>378099031
>ignore everyone's point about desaturated grey + one color
>continue to post images of desaturated grey + one color
HATERS BTFO HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER

>>378098845
Who the hell goes to collesium without void spells?

>>378098716
Definitely a lot of blue and green when the crossroads gets infected

I made a thread with this exact title last week I believe, I was just baiting for you's. Op, why would you repost my shitty bait thread? You even used the same picture I did.

>beatle waifu fags posting now
Huh, I guess that explains why /v/ loves this game so much yet can't explain why.

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Hollow Knight is god awful.

>Non existent difficulty for the numale redditors it was aimed at that cannot play challenging video games
>Flash tier art style consisting of nothing but simplistic outlines and no shading or any other detail
>Dog shit OST by some literal who composer that was no doubt paid in buttons (and it shows too)
>Lore is straight up uninteresting trash as well which only the undertale fanbase would find 'deep' since they're quite literally the braindead morons of this generation.

Hollow Shite wouldn't even be in my top 15 metroidvania's. It's insultingly easy and dull compared to the competition.

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>>378099059
It's mostly just hard for me to come to terms with seeing once enjoyable threads fall. I forget why I stopped coming on /v/.
>>378099193
>>378099214
>it's all blue
>no it's not
>ARRRGH TIME TO CHANGE MY COMPLAINT

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Your problem retard is that they baited you into pointles discussion about color pallete which is not even objective aspect to argue about.

They easily put you in a defending position on the subjective aspect and just kept hammering. Ur dumb.

learn to 4chan, don't take the primitive bait

What the fuck is La Mulana, is it some indie shit people pretend to like to give off the impression of having good taste? Also Hollow Knight is GOTY material OP, you must have some mighty fine shit taste.

>>378099315
I'm literally not baiting, I hated every moment of this game.

And believe it or not, it's the first image on google. But I guess I'm just a troll because only a troll could dislike THE BEST METROIDVANIA EVER CREATED

>>378099380
underage pls go

>>378099371
>learn to 4chan
>doesn't know how to reply to someone
Speak for yourself

>>378099318
This. Pirated the game and got up to the knight boss before dropping it due to boredom.

>>378099318
fuck off MaZe

>>378099324
It's so hard and stressful actually having to deal with opposing viewpoints supported by evidence! Why can't it just be a circle jerk like on Reddit :(

>>378099324
>desaturated black, white + yellow
Wow, Anon. You're really disproving our point. Please continue posting these beautiful screenshots :v)

>>378099380
>What the fuck is La Mulana, is it some indie shit people pretend to like to give off the impression of having good taste?
Pretty much.
Id has massive flaws on every aspect: gameplay, story, narration and basically being the object of what they build they "hipster status" around.

>>378099380
nice falseflag

>>378099324
this artstyle does not work well for large characters

>>378099512
>goes from complaining about being all blue to being all whatever color is next
You'd literally say this regardless of what pallet it is.

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>>378099485
lmao no

>mfw I'm playing Marrow which is superior in every single way to HK
>mfw /v/ plebs cannot eveb handle a game like this because you're all shitters.
>mfw the first boss in marrow is harder than radiance
l m a o who thought this baby shit would be a good idea?

Havent yet a single objective argument why HK is bad.

These are 3 retards arguing about colors but I said objective, not your shitty personal preferences.

Which kinda shows that besides shitposting there isn't much against this game can be said.

>>378099371
When this>>378097279 is the quality of their argumentation, it doesn't really matter what aspect of the game you criticize. It's just going to be fanboys holding their hands over their ears either way. Might as well do something he has pictures saved for.

i typically hate platformers and get bored of them with the first hour or so. For some reason this one kept my interest. It could be the art/music or the feeling of progress. In terms of indie flavor of the month games its pretty fucking awesome

>>378094843
Its a fun game. You won't enjoy it if you don't like old games however.

>>378099716
>he's still attacking the strawman argument nobody ever said
Keep going, Anon. Show me some more beautiful black, white, and desaturated single color screenshots. The game just looks so beautiful and unique from one zone to the next I just want to see more.

>>378099743
>Being illiterate
Actually more like being selectively oblivious>>378095164
Also nice reddit spacing.

>>378099743
but there's already been plenty of objective arguments that have blown you out such as >>378099318

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>>378099749
>talking about "quality of argumentation" because has no valid response to spoken argumentation

Immortal classic

>>378099736
fuck off faggot, not even /jp/ likes you

>>378094843

Good but too hard for it's own good.

>>378097404
4chan as a whole is going more mainstream as such is attracting a lot more literal faggots and normies than in the past lowering the quality of the site overall

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I wish I could turn back time to when these threads were good.
I wish I could do that for a lot of games, actually
Why do threads always get ruined as time goes on?

>>378099859
Just saying "nuh uh" isn't really an argument anon. I don't really need to refute "um actually this boss is the bestest ever and you're just a troll if you disagree :)"

>>378099843
>>378099849
45% of that are:
>claims with no base or ground, not backed up by anything
30%
>personal preferences stated as a matter of fact
15% are
>just blatant lie and baitposting

lol no
That is not how it works. Good subjective review but in no way proves game is bad in any way.
I respect you having an opinion but sorry kid, it just still your opinion.

Why does this indieart shit game have so many frame drops on a 1070 and i7 6700k?

>>378099979
Maybe realize people have different opinions and get over it instead of crying about how much you hate the site you're currently posting on each time someone says something you dont agree with.

>>378095164
>color scheme is horrible, every level is just black, white and MAYBE a light neon blue/green if you're lucky.

So you havent played past 15 minutes.

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>>378099989
>"i was just pretending to be retarded"
nice

>>378100031
Which parts are lies?

>>378100031
GJ just saying "no its wrong" instead of giving any specifics or counterpoints

>>378100051
>indieart
Jesus fuck.
So when it comes to indie games with you people, if it's retro graphics it's pixelshit, if it's drawn graphics it's indieart, and if it's 3D graphics it's "not good enough"

>>378099979
It got popular. Any game released in the past 5 years that gets attention will unquestionably get shit on by /v/.

>>378100107
>I was just pretending to be retarded
That's not what my post says at all anon. Your inability to read isn't my fault.

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How will hollow cucks ever recover?

>>378099870
Jokes on you, /jp/ loves and worships me.
I'm one of the few people that can back up my claims as to why certain games are pure trash since I actually have the skill to 100% everything I play.
Meanwhile you plebs cannot do the same and as such your opinions hold no weight.

Now be quiet sweetie, I don't want to have to keep embarrassing you like this.

>>378100031
You cannot read for shit then since what I said are objectively all facts since I've 100%'d your shitty game.

>>378099979
/v/ has a really vocal really autistic 0.1% that is dedicated to shitposting everything.

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>>378100051
I dunno anon, you tell me

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>game is a hidden gem that only /v/ and a few other forums know about
>/v/ likes it
>game gets popular
>/v/ hates it now
Every time. Every. Single. Time.
You can't name a single game where this is not the case.

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>>378100072
>Y-YOU JUST HAVEN'T PLAYED ITTTTTTTTTTT
k. Meanwhile here's a picture of Kingdom's Edge, one of the last levels in the game.

Wow. Truly breathtaking.

>>378094565

FUCKING OWLBOY.

It was 100% shills and the dev himself. Faggots.

Got my refund, thankfully.

>>378100138
>instead of giving any specifics or counterpoints


Oh, I will, once there will be valid criticism. Until then - shitposting and making fun of retards it is.

>Still no counterarguments besides nuh uh
This board really has been invaded by reddit. Just a mindless circle jerk.

>>378097852
oh, sorry. when you said "mash" i thought you knew what you were talking about. sorry for taking you seriously.

the "voice acting" in this is fucking awful that's for sure

>>378100189
>I can 100% all games I play, therefore everything I say is objectively correct
do you not realize how stupid this sounds?

>>378100167
>/v/ is one person

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>>378100198
>"Waaah why can't i remain in my little hugbox bubble, the game is perfect stop criticising it!"

>>378100329
But you're seething.

>>378100253
Even with a lot of layers there is no excuse for this games performance.

>>378100320
I loved HK to death but I despise Owlboy.

That indie trash is a valid trash.

Sigh, Pafa Nara

>>378100279
>hidden gem that only /v/ and a few other forums know about
>hidden gem

Are you kidding me dude. It had a successful kickstarter and had constant threads about it on release. Stop pretending you're playing some niche title.

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>still no valid besides making up shit or posting personal preferences as a facts

As expected from shitter a-la LMfag

>>378100320
Why?

I might be tempted to buy the bundle, but i need more info first without spoiling myself anything.

>>378100390
>/v/ doesn't have trends that the most vocal posters follow
If I had a nickle for every time the words "indieshit" or "pixelshit" were used on this board I'd be the richest man alive.
>>378100494
No one outside of /v/ talked about it and no big names played it or mentioned it until recently. A successful kickstarter isn't hard nowadays.

>>378100329
Oh, so you're just a drone with no actual argument after all. Surely people should trust your opinion since you're not even willing to say whats so good about the game you love so much.

>>378100397
You haven't given any good criticisms though. Complaints about color scheme is bullshit, complaints about the combat are bullshit, all you're doing is trying to force yet another "MY GAME IS BETTER THAN YOUR GAME" shitflinging contest. No actual La-Mulana fan would do this shit, you're just massively autistic and bored with whatever the hell you were doing before (probably making more reposts).

>>378100420
>layers

it is literally 3D backdrop there anon on pretty high resolution. Spritesheet of MC is 4096x4096 @ 14MB

Not many even AAA 2D games (Child of Light) can says they have such big sprites

>>378100558
>No one outside of /v/ talked about it and no big names played it or mentioned it until recently.
It's r/gamings #1 2D game.

>>378100279
Kirby. No one who isn't a single digit IQ'd retard can possibly hate Kirby. Than again that's probably half of /v/'s current population.

>>378100279
OP here. Popularity has never been a problem. I love lots of renowned games, and even think this year has been pretty fucking good so far. But I guess since I dislike your shit game I just hate everything, huh?

>>378100320
Owlboy got me too. It starts out so good. Having to use your tools as a fucking Owlboy to drop things on enemies to defeat them. Then you just get a guncuck and mindlessly shoot your way through everything.

At the very least the game looked fucking fantastic. Unlike Hollow Knight.

>>378100642
Yeah, now, I'm talking about for the first month or two of its release. No one knew about it.

>>378100569
Come back when you actually have something that resembles a valid and digestible argument rather just your spergtalk. No promises I will take you seriously even then since you showed how underage are you already

>>378100665
>I love lots of renowned games
Like what

>>378100707
They've jacked it off since release, get over yourself.

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>>378100381
>"I am a shitter who only praises piss easy games since they're the only things I can play, please take my opinion seriously!"

Really makes me wonder t b h.

>>378100583
Complaints about gameplay, sound, and art are bullshit?
lmao you pitiful cuck, those are all legitimate criticism. You cannot defend your dog shit game from them so you try to pretend they don't count when they're really factually correct.

HK is a poorly designed mess in all areas.

>>378100665
>I love lots of renowned games

>"I love of popular AAA trash"
I've guessed.

>>378100583
>you're complaints are bullshit!!
>tell you why? lol why they're so bullshit
If you unironically think this game has good combat or color schemes you have brain problems.

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>Bait thread getting this long

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La Mulana is extremely overrated, the rating we see of 8+ is seriously overvalued. Their quality assurance team/guy had a severe lack of perspective of how frustrating it can be to a beginner to the game. It throws you in an environment that explains NOTHING, and while that *CAN* be good, it is NOT done well. First of all you collect a currency that is apparently extremely important in the game. But, the game tells you zero information about it. That could be fine and well if it didn't have a mechanic that zeroes your currency without ever being informed that can be possible. Not only that, but it throws the player immediately into some of its most hard to navigate and survive levels. In general the game tries to keep a "mystery" and "hard" element, but it becomes a disaster because it overdoes it with those two elements. Games are boring when they are too easy, or when they are too hand-holded, that is true, but this has passed the threshold of excess. In no way it is excessive for all people, otherwise it wouldn't deserve even a 6, but in my opinion this game is extremely overrated due to its ability to frustrate a lot if not most people which is why Hollow Knight is much better.

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>>378100786
The only way you would know that is if you were from that place.

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>>378100381
>do you not realize how stupid this sounds?
>>378100795
>"I am a shitter who only praises piss easy games since they're the only things I can play, please take my opinion seriously!"
>Really makes me wonder t b h.

^is this guy genuinely autistic or what?

>>378100665
>But I guess since I dislike your shit game I just hate everything, huh?
why do you keep using this as an argument?
no one in the thread has claimed HK to be a masterpiece or anything

>>378100774
I know how this goes, you're just going to tell me every game I like is shit. So I'll just tell you the last game I really enjoyed. Prey.

Now go ahead and use that to dismiss all the criticisms of Hollow Knight with out actually addressing them.

>>378100845
People here only respond to threads that make them either angry or horny.

Is it better than the wave of other metroidvanias
Ori
Axiom verge
Rabi ribi
Guacamelee
Lamulana
Salt sanctuary

>>378100978
>enjoyed shitty mediocre biocock clone

Geez what a surprise
AAA shitter is shitting on indie game. NEVER happened on /v/

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>>378100902
>Dogshit player tries his best to save face after getting blown the fuck out

Pure comedy kino.

>>378100795
>>"I am a shitter who only praises piss easy games since they're the only things I can play, please take my opinion seriously!"
how did you even get to that conclusion from my argument?
are you autistic?
>t b h
>cuck
oh you are

>>378100978
>Prey
holy shit, i wonder who could be behind this post

>>378101041
>Now go ahead and use that to dismiss all the criticisms of Hollow Knight with out actually addressing them.
Like clockwork.

>>378101034
Arguably only Guacameele is metroidvania.
Actually, now that I think of it it is more metrdoivania-alike but not a proper MV.

>>378101060
You really should check your samefag detector butthurt autist
>every response is a personal crusade
>/v/ is one person he must defeat!

>>378100856
Yea, which is why I'm in the hollow knight thread.

>>378101134
That wasn't even me.
I was going to point out the fact that Prey is very shallow with poor combat and not scary in the slightest. Tries to be a cinematic experience but is not interesting at all.
Which certainly does explain your opinions to an extent.

>>378101103
see
>>378101134

>>378094565
k

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>>378101134
So you knew you will be called on your bullshit and when you where you now play a victim?

You have to go back, underage are not welcomed here.

>>378101041
>>enjoyed shitty mediocre biocock clone

It's like system shock never existed or something

>>378100845
It's just MaZe, that faggot has to shitpost to death any game he doesn't likes because he thinks he's hot shit

>>378101245
SHOCK-LIKE guize!

>>378100454
It's actually "'sigh', bafanada"

>>378101213
Prey was very flawed in that regard, Anon. Much like Hollow Knight.

But the exploration and world building was great. Much better than cryptic shrines telling you nonsense and NPCs gibbering some Arabic sounding shit.

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>>378100724
Part 1.
I've got about an hour of this game under my belt, which is quite a mystery unto itself since I've barely traversed more than three areas so far in my beetle-warrior metroid-esque adventure. My first two questions, does the developer understand the concept of pacing in an action platformer? Or was it perhaps the level designers that don't understand how a layout should look in order to not be tedious for a player to navigate? Why does this always seem to come up when a team is attempting to make an original platformer, the group that thinks to themselves collectively "Hey we can't forget about our influences! We can't forget about Super Metroid!" Or how about Ori and the Blind Forest, or how about Axiom Verge, or how about Aquaria? These games are all incredibly similar and all have the same problem. The level design is often at odds with the gameplay. I understand that in order for two dimensional platformers to actually evolve, we need to somehow break away from games like Super Metroid and Castlevania, however most development teams look at these games for inspiration, yet lack the ability to set their games apart from those genre pioneering titles. The problems with Hollow Knight aren't inherently going to destroy anyone's experiences with the game, but in my opinion they certainly hinder it from being better than what it currently is. First off, who ever heard of a game where you chiefly explore a large map that lacks a map feature, unless it is found by a vendor and bought by a currency that forces players to revisit areas to kill small enemies or harvest drops from caches found throughout areas? No one. Its never been done before and its the first strike against it. Its utterly mad to have such a feature. Not even the worst aspect, but certainly the second issue I take offense to is the fact that you can't even record your progress on the map until you've stopped at a save point that acts as a checkpoint,
Cont.

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>>378100454
>>378101319

People have to stop falling for OPs bait sometime soon.

>>378101346
>But the exploration and world building was great
So you prefer a set path full of obvious set pieces over a more open world and narrative when it comes to exploration. Unsurprising.

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>>378101068
>how did you even get to that conclusion from my argument?

>Bawws because he's trash and thinks his opinion has the same value as somebody who is objectively more skilled than him
>uhh h-how did you c-come to that conclusion?

Pretty self explanatory my illiterate friend.

>>378101149
>Cheerleading for some anon because I hit to close to home
>Implying I give the slightest of fucks if you're him or not
You still got blown the fuck out no matter which way you slice it.

>>378101346
>I will just throw an absolute nonsensical comparison with 3D FPS game as an analogy and be completely serious and unironic about that

And you wonder why no one take you seriously

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Bloodborne

My favorite part of this game was when you find the broken egg in the stag's home and then when you talk to him his name changes from The Last Stag to Old Stag. It really is a great game

>>378101308
It is though? Whats the point of this post

>>378101374
Did you really think I won't spot you, LaMulana Autist?

It is really easy. Nobody is gonna reply to you seriously except random newfag but there is only so many random newfags out there.

>>378100724
Which you can't even record where you've traveled on your map without going to a shop in the games central hub and buying the item to actually do so. Why would this even be in a game? Its tedium for the sake of tedium. Onto strike three, certainly another obnoxious feature is the fact that you also cannot see where you are on the map without using an item that consumes a slot on what you might call your optional "abilities" which can be described as little emblems you must also purchase in the central town's hub. This item also costs money that you must collect from enemies. Far be it for me to condemn a developer for making such amateurish mistakes, but these are pretty unsettling design choices that have no rhyme or reason. Though the gameplay certainly compliments a large map, that doesn't necessarily make it entertaining to hunt down an non-playable character just to buy the map for whatever area you might be in. That's poor game design, it is what could be call "artificial difficulty." It wouldn't be such a big issue if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of these areas aesthetically and visually look quite similar. That's not rewarding for a player to go through, its frustrating. "Ori and the blind forest," specifically shares many of Hollow Knight's problems. They are ultimately easily compared to one another. They both feature a fluid sense of movement, offer many abilities to traverse large maps with a metroid-styled ability or upgrade system. One of the biggest problems with the genre is that they have become so formulaic, that you can't even get away from the dull, tired, and standard hunt for new abilities. The genre is in desperate need for more games that are willing to challenge the medium, not fall in line with same old formula over and over again. I see a lot of these games and end up being quite dissatisfied, they share so many problems, they share so many of the same influences,

>>378094843
I'm really enjoying it. Other than Valdis Story it's my favourite one in years. Valdis gets the win for me though because of better combat.

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>>378101462
>"I, I... I s-still won! T-take that!"

poor infantile autistic child

>>378100724
and they are quickly forgotten next to original ideas and older titles. So Hollow knight is certainly entertaining to play, but its been done to death, its certainly fairly challenging, but its formulaic, its certainly a good looking, visually appealing project, but none of that really matters when all it acts as is window dressing. Hollow knight has no original ideas, maybe original images, which is fine, but its never enough to be a classic. Its why no one talks about "Aquaria," or why they already made a "definitive edition" for Ori and the Blind Forest after the thing had barely been released for a year, people don't remember these games. Why? Its simple, they're not Metroid and never will be. Until a developer is willing to take a risk, we will continue to feel nostalgia towards things that look and feel like what we liked, but never actually are. It just ends up being something the fill the void really, a "hollow" void at that

>>378101565
Whats it like being so paranoid that you think everyone who disagrees with you is the same person? Must be convenient to dismiss criticism you have no actual argument against.

>>378101439
>Prey
>set-path
I could argue against that, Anon, but Prey isn't the game we're discussing.

>more open world
It doesn't feel very open when the extent of your "exploration" is just back tracking to areas you couldn't traverse before
>narrative
The narrative in this game is even below Dark Souls tier. It feels like a lazy excuse that relies on fans to fill in the gaps for devs lack of world building.

>Unsurprising.
Gee, you sure told me.

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*BRAVAA's your path*

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Well and TRULY pottery.
How does hollow shits art style pass in 2017? This is fucking embarrassing.

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>>378101601
>likes Hollow Knight
>likes Valdis Story

I'm not gay but I swear

>>378101708
>I could argue that
And you'd be retarded to do so.
Prey, like any other modern AAA game, has a very linear path designed to take you from set piece to set piece.

>>378101462
>I am better at games than you!
>that means that any argument I make can't be wrong!
again, do you realize how stupid that sounds?

>>378101471
>FPS game has lackluster combat
>"so does Hollow Knight"
>WOW THIS IS WHY NOBODY CAN TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY
I hope you can eventually see the irony in this post.

>>378101739
I have no idea how Valdis Story flew so far under the radar. 4 really fun characters, good difficulty settings, decent build variety, good content updates.

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>>378101634
>Straight up admits that he lost
Easiest victory of my life tbqhwy lmao

I would like to congratulate the autist behind this thread for baiting so many people.

stay mad, OP

>>378101796
And again, just ignore my complaints about Hollow Knight.

If you can't defend your opinions they're worthless, Anon.

>>378094843
I'm still playing it, but I went in expecting a 5 hour Indie Metroidvania title and am still finding new areas to explore 20 hours in. Every area isn't just connected to one area, there's always 4 or 5 different exits you can take.

Combat is kind of meh but most of the bosses are at least good. Mantis Lords is still a top tier fight that I haven't topped yet.

>>378094843
I can see people not hailing it as the "best Metroidvania ever" because it's not, but the people who say it's shit literally, genuinely might be retarded. I'm not even the biggest fan of the game and I still haven't finished it after a month or so hiatus, but I still think it's one of the better Metroidvanias to come out in recent memory.

>>378101708
>It doesn't feel very open when the extent of your "exploration" is just back tracking to areas you couldn't traverse before

Why do you like? From the first location you have a choice to visit 2 new locations and the obstacles to do so are trivial and not hard-set (Fireball or Lantern)

Second location gives you again possibility:
> backtrack and visit new location
> backtrack and another new location
or
>continue current location and reach another new location
and 2 of these are inteconnected

So please, get your shit straight. Only SoTN has such freedom of exploration, NOT A SINGLE game, that claims to be metroidvania, provided such. Literally, 2 games so far: SoTN (1997) and Hollow Knight (2017)

20 fucking years.

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>>378100308
>Kingdom's Edge, one of the last levels in the game.

>>378101923
>he says while ignoring how wrong he is about Prey
You have no points when you show how little you know

>>378101865
Undoubtedly. Now I realize I will never top you in levels of autism.

>>378101857
It took forever for them to update with those extra characters. The combat is really good but the story is kind of shit and the characters themselves are boring.

People fall for the bait every time. It's common for the OP to be an ironic shitpost, similar to MH threads.

>>378101981
Oh shit I just noticed.

>"I 100% the game I swear"

What a fucking joke he is

>>378101994
The argument was never about Prey, you autist. Stop moving the goalposts in a desperate attempt to deflect criticism.

>Now go ahead and use that to dismiss all the criticisms of Hollow Knight with out actually addressing them.
Like clockwork.

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>>378094565
This game fucking awesome.

>>378102058
Traditionally metroidvanias have next to no story, so I wouldn't think that would matter. And Alucard and Samus the ur examples have the personalities of a cardboard cutout.

I try to judge a game by the rest of the genre it belongs to.

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>>378102126
Don't show you're a fucking dumbass next time

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>>378101815
Me being so good at games automatically means -
My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.

My opinion on gameplay as a whole also holds more weight since I can more accurately judge the nuances of said game due to being a better player

Meanwhile you just like whatever reddit tells you to like since you are a shitter that cannot debunk my flawless arguments.

>>378102043
What a loser LMAO

>>378094843
One thing that HK does well that no one replying to you has mentioned and that many other indie metroidvanias fail at is enemy variety. HK has massive variety in standard enemies, and while there are some that are just upgraded versions of early enemies, they aren't just palette swaps but rather get their own looks and animations. It's something I greatly appreciated after games like Rabi-Ribi that have lots of bosses but fall flat on the standard enemy front.

>>378102158
>>Now go ahead and use that to dismiss all the criticisms of Hollow Knight with out actually addressing them.
>Like clockwork.
Like clockwork.

>>378094702
>bending over backwards to defend someone you dont know

this is why you people are fundamentally cancer

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>>378095164
>every piece in the soundtrack sounds like the title screen of FFX
Team Cherry BTFO LMAO

>>378101968
I was constantly surprised at how open the game's exploration was. At any point in the game I had multiple areas to explore. When the Mantis Lords kicked my ass at first, I just went off to another area and looked around. I was never locked into fighting a boss of an area before being able to proceed. Although obviously you'll have to fight them at some point.

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>>378102171
>Me being so good at games automatically means
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.

>>378102171
>Me being so good at games automatically means
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.


>>378102171
>Me being so good at games automatically means
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.

>>378102171
>Me being so good at games automatically means
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.


I want everyone to take a breath and realize this guy is being pretty serious and unironic in what he is saying.

Just let it soak in.

>>378102147
I may be a bit slow, but I recently realized the city area is raining because it's below the blue lake

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And onto the list it goes.
What are we missing, /v/?

>>378102326
Why can't we discuss Yoshi's Island?

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>>378102269
>Mfw I slay you so hard you sperg out to this extent

Holy shit this is even easier than hollow knight is kek

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>>378102171
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.
>My opinion on gameplay as a whole also holds more weight since I can more accurately judge the nuances of said game due to being a better player
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
what the fuck is this autism?

>>378102408
One word
haha

>>378102269
>Am I right Reddit please tell me I'm right?
Sad

>>378102326
Just throw all of them onto the list and call it a day.

-OP

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>>378102171
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.

>>378102326
La mulana too, since the all the autism coming from Lamulanafag caused /v/ to hate that game too

Who is "MaZe" and why do you people keep saying that name like it's supposed to mean something?

>inb4 durr not gonna spoonfeed
Yeah lemme just google this common-ass word and find a meaningful answer

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>>378102427
Those are straight up facts though.
>Mfw these trash players shit the bed because their non existent skills get pointed out.

>>378102575
He's the dude avatarfagging with the same anime images every thread.
He started a fight with a Hollow Knight autist while being a La Mulana autist and now you can't actually talk about either games on /v/.

>>378102326
No goddamnit this is a good game and I want to talk about it

>>378102575
I will give you initial impression:
>>378094846

>>378102580
>>378102423
>>378102171
>>378101865
>>378101462
>>378099318

have fun

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>>378102171
>Me being so good at games automatically means -
>My opinion on difficulty factually holds more weight than the rest of you plebs who struggle on things that I find a joke.
>
>My opinion on gameplay as a whole also holds more weight since I can more accurately judge the nuances of said game due to being a better player

>Nobody responding to my 3 part post while still claiming they want to discuss the game
:(

>>378102624
I gathered as much, but why does he have a name? Is he some shitty wannabe e-celeb? Or does he just namefag in his spare time?

>>378102326
Other than every game? BotW, Horizon, MGS5, Death Stranding, Shantae, Persona 5. I could go on.

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>>378102171

>>378102326
You can discuss Fallout NV and Bloodborne fine now (Bloodborne release was a fucking shitfest though). Add Nier Automata, BoTW, DaS2 and 3, Doom 2016, every single Final Fantasy, and any game which even an ounce of political undertone.

>>378102738
There's a lot of smug anime avatar shitposting and "U'RE CRITICISMS ARE WRONG. NO I WONT TELL YOU WHY IN A CALM AND RATIONAL MANNER, FAGGOT" posting going on, Anon. You got drowned out

>>378102820
>>378102863
>BoTW
Are you guys new? Every other thread was BoTW for over a month. It only stopped because of the /vg/ rule.
/v/ was basically Zelda the Board.

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>Mfw some HK lover tried to play Marrow on stream to prove me wrong and couldn't get past the start without me giving him a detailed guide on what to do
>Mfw he still couldn't do it

HK players have found one of the few metroidvanias that are easy enough for them to finish and now they think it's actually a solid game holy shit where oh where did I put my sides this time? You cannot make this shit up kek

>>378102863
DOOM was only open for discussion after it got cracked.

Just like Prey

>>378102921
Try and make a thread now that's not trap Link and see how well it goes.

>>378102575
>>378102805
He's some autist from /jp/ who's in the top something of players in some touhou game with the name MaZe, he has a inhuman ego and believes that anyone who isn't as good as him is casual and his opinion holds no value
He enters any thread about a game he doesn't likes and replies with anime and 2hou images always acting ironically as if he was right like HK and Rabi-Ribi

>>378102961
Blame the spergs who thread-spammed until it was disallowed to have multiple threads via the /vg/ clause. If you thread spam, people get tired of seeing 90% of the catalog be one game.

>>378102929
>when you try to fit /v/ so hard but end up overdoing it and no longer can stop the train

I'm genuinely curious how this will end up. Probably mental meltdown and hopefully in kys

>>378102326
add Rabi-Ribi, that faggot MaZe also ruins those threads

>>378103000
>/jp/
>2hu
Say no more my man. Nice trips.

>>378102929
Do you have a link to this? That sounds funny.

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>>378103000
witnessed

>>378094565
Yeah I checked it out too after reading how great the animations and gameplay are. It's a really generic shovel knight-tier platforming "metroidvania" style game where if you played one you played them all.

IMO rainworld was a lot more interesting gameplay and visual-wise.

>>378102326
Haydee is not worth discussing

>>378103028
Persona 5 is way worse in this regard though, 95% of P5 threads is either pure waifufaggotry or some meme like "YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING" or "Are the Phantom Thieves just?" I did enjoy both games though, so that's probably why I didn't buy the thread spam as much.

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>>378103000
Casuals opinions legitimately don't matter though. If you're trash at games then you need to be quiet because you have no right to discuss them.

>>378103058
I've been on this site for 12 years my young plebeian friend. I imagine that's a good 3/4 of your life right there.

>>378103123
I can't remember the guys name.
If you wanna dig around though, it was yesterday, just search La-Mulana and check the archives.

>>378103028
>was disallowed to have multiple threads via the /vg/ clause.
if this is a real thing why do persona and nier get free reign

and lets not kid ourselves there still are multiple botw threads up at all times

>>378103292
And once this month is over that will stop too.
That's how /v/ works if it's a main release. People are unable to contain themselves in one thread because they're fucking faggots and then this ruins it for everyone else.
>>378103363
Lazy moderation.

>>378103000
It's touhou though literally who gives a fuck. If he was great at brood war or something I might respect him.

>>378103363
>there still are multiple botw threads up at all times
Are you new? Mods always were nintendocucks

>>378102929
Are there any hard Metroidvanias? As far as I can tell, they're all pretty damn easy.

>>378103398
>broodwar
>most base and generic of rts

get real

>>378103000
also worth noting, search MD5 any of his reaction images in the archive to witness just how many threads he has ruined
>>378103058
>hopefully in kys
nah, MaZe has too much of an ego to believe he's wrong in anything he has ever said or done

>>378103449
The only hard ones are the Castlevania series because the Metroid half of Metroidvania makes the genre easier.

>>378103449
rainworld is p difficult.

>>378103452
Highest skill cap. If he's some anti casual kind of guy he should be playing the hardest most competitive games.

I keep really trying to enjoy this game, but comparing it to titles like SoTN and Super Metroid is just the biggest insult I can imagine.

I like the art-style, the presentation, even the voice acting. But the game completely falls apart gameplay wise. The levels are all tiny, so they've crammed in way too many "lol you can't go here yet" paths for the space. It's annoying to explore the map and only find a dozen places you can't go yet, AND there's no way to mark them on your map. Those dark rooms piss me off the most, because you can enter them and fully map them, but there's no indicator of them on the map.

The combat is downright dreadful, every encounter is incredibly dull, and boss patterns seem to be learned in a matter of seconds. The bosses also have way too much HP, it takes forever to kill them.

As a cheap indie game, it's alright. As a "wow masterpiece" metroidvania, it's severely lacking in absolutely critical elements. It's like it was designed by someone who kind of understood the basic elements you needed, and then threw in a bunch of other shit like wacky Dark Souls references.

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>>378094843
Shit. See OP's reply.
A thing he forgot to adress is that this game shamessly rips off Souls', even more so than Salt&Sanctuary which by comparison is GOTY to this turd.

For example, theres a fucking area called "The Abyss" with floating humanities attacking you.
This game is OC do not steal meme tier, but because its indie shit its automatically assumed GOTY.

>>378103517
Which ones are hard? Symphony was the hardest, and even then it was pretty goddamn easy.

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>>378103449
No.
Proper metroidvania does not center its gameplay around artificial difficulty, it uses different approach.

There are hard game but they arent proper metroidvanias no matter how many buzzwords they use.

>>378103581
The originals for the NES and SNES. NES level difficulty is real, but NES difficulty is also not entirely fair either

>>378103670
They are not metroidvanias, though.

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>>378103363
Marrow.
It's hard enough that I guarantee everybody in this thread (minus me) have absolutely 0 chance of beating it. Especially since there's no guides for people to use like what fake La-Mulana fans used since they're shitters that cannot figure out simple puzzles without being told exactly what to do by outside sources.

>>378099849
Ost is great though

Lore is great though.

Art style is great though

It's not all that difficult if you focus but dream bosses can become a problem if you rely of powers too much. Also i believe that one hit run is quite difficult, even if not that interesting.

>>378100067
Good threads:
Fuck I liked that part. Spiders are fucking scary. Where do i find this last trinket? FUCK WHITE PALACE FUCK FUCKING FUCK
Current threads:
The game is shit and all of my personal opinions are objective facts. Can't handle the banter white boy?

HK is a great game, peace.

>>378103717
Castlevania is one half of the word "Metroidvania." Why do fags like you not count the literal origins of the genre?

Can anybody tell me why exactly a shitty little indie game like this takes up 10 gigs of space?

I wouldn't mind keeping it around if it wasn't massively over-inflated for no good reason.

>>378103815
It has several graphical layers to create the backgrounds and foregrounds and stuff.

>>378103784
Castlevania !=metroidvania.
Cheese != cheesburger.
Ammo != loaded firearm

No, fuck off with your meme arrow I dont care how much you ate food analogy.

Metroidania is a game that adapts best aspects of metroid (namely SM) and Castlevania (namely Simon's Quest) and improves them. that is what SoTN was.

I will blow your ind probably but nor SM nor C2: SQ are metroidvania.

>>378102326
Haydee is meh.

>>378103723
So what, its cryptic for the sake of being cryptic and none of the actual difficulty is derived from the game mechanics? Sounds shit

>>378103723
Funny thing about Marrow is it has less color in it than HK and yet color seems to be your biggest and most parroted complaint
Is that now okay because Marrow is attempting to be 3edgy5me?

>>378103551
TA and Supcom require immensely more skill than BW

>>378103761
>>Ost is great though
It's pretty average, compared to most metroidvanias, it's actually mediocre.

>Lore is great though.
It's just a DaS rip-off, how is that good?

>Art style is great though
The ANIMATION is good, the art style itself ranges from mediocre to average.

It's pretty cool that you don't think the actual gameplay is good, though. It's not like that's why people play games like this or anything.

>>378103815
>>378103904
It also runs like ass on systems it has absolutely no business not running like ass on.

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>>378103815
spritesheet for characters and locations are MCHUGE

>>378101934
Mantis Lords are damn easy once you realise you should only hit phase 2 after the second one attacks
The actual hardest boss in the game is Lost Kin

>>378103931
You're a faggot and Metroidvania is a god-awful genre name and descriptor in the first place, up there with "roguelike" and "soulslike"

>>378103312
>avatarfagging with FOTM anime
>Casuals opinions don't matter
Special snowflake

>>378103973
Oh wow you managed to nail it without playing. Lucky shot probably.

I tried it - it is shit.

>>378103982
ownd

>>378104023
Can you post the whole thing somehow, Anon? I like seeing what's underneath the cape