Don't bother with Fallout 4, it's not even worth your time

It is made by Bethesda. The company that hires friends, not talent.

>>378073952
It's common knowledge that Bethesda games are shit, anon. Only bluepilled normalfags bought this game.

>>378073952
Did you like Fallout 3? That is the important question

they saw shit that was popular around the time that fake fallout 4 website came out (crafting games, certain mods for new vegas) and slammed it into their game as fast as possible for a quick buck. they neglected story and rpg elements for shiny new features that they could finish as fast as possible (voiced protag, crafting etc.)

basically it was rushed to cash in on hype and to apply to a mass audience.

Hello Sawyer,
How's your bull?

>>378074573
>story

It's not an RPG anymore. Why would they bother? All they have to do is make it look EBIC

You're quite late, anon.

>>378074496
The irony.

>>378073952
>I gave it 30 hours and I only had fun for about the first few.

I honestly believe the game is better after 25-50 hours when things pick up.

either way, people should try it. IT's a good sandbox lootan shootan. But if you want New Vegas 2, don't go anywhere near it.

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>>378074646
She is just mad that even Avallone jumped to work with bethesda sofworks

I pirated it around release and it was only ok. it's not fallout, it's not even an rpg. it's a chore simulator pretty much, which I can enjoy sometimes. mechanically it was a bit more enjoyable and improved than NV, but lacked everything else completely

This game should've come out like 7 years ago or something.

Fallout 4 is easily the best fallout game ever made if you ignore the dogshit main questline you faggots are just on the hate bandwagon

>>378073952
>what went so goddamn wrong?

Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. It's an action shooter game but those elements are shit compared to actual shooters. It has base building and survival but it sucks compared to actual survival games. The rpg elements feel tacked on and useless and it doesnt help that the story and quests are poorly thought out.

>>378073952

The only neat thing in this game is the power armor.

But even with the expansions, there is only 4 types of power armor. You get your first suit of armor not even an hour into the game, and you stumble across new suits every few feet. I had something like 35 when I stopped playing.

A few hours of play and you have done just about everything with it you can.

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>>378074572
At the time I sort of begrudgingly accepted it and modded the shit out of it to make it bearable but when NV came out Obsidian pretty much proved that a 3D Fallout could not only be done well but be an actual masterpiece. NV pretty much healed all the burns FO3 gave to every true Fallout fan who wanted a rebirth made by people who knew what fallout was so I don't hate it nearly as much as I hate FO4, which has no fucking excuse to be as bad as it was.

How to make Fallout 4 amazing:

1) Install Nexus Mod Manager

2) Install the Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch

3) Install War Never Changes overhaul

4) Change the difficulty to Survival Mode

5) Install ReShade and use Adaptive Sharpening and Technicolor2

6) Ignore any of the main questlines in the game, instead only exploring and doing side-quests

>>378075150
Where is the part that involves porting the game over to an engine that doesnt ruin the experience?

>>378075129
Ok I'm asking you because I really liked Fallout 3, and from what I've seen Fallout 4 looks disgusting. I need a new fucking pc man I want to play New Vegas but I'm stuck with a shitty laptop

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I had to install like a hundred mods to make it playable

>>378075294
Play 1 and 2, they'll run on a shitty laptop.

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>>378074827
>I honestly believe the game is better after 25-50 hours when things pick up.
>i-it gets better after 30 hours guys, i promise!

>>378075150
>Survival

Survival is trash because they designed the game around the normal game, if they thought about survival from the moment they started making it it wouldn't be so fucking tedious.

>>378075445
It's an observation on the level scaling, it's quite boring at the start because the enemies don't get that hard till you level a bit, even on V.hard.

>>378075408
I don't know, that whole isometric like thing puts me off. I'll try someday

>>378075150
>overhaul mods

lmao enjoy your endless CTDs

>>378075296

hundreds of mods and you still have ugly PA interface?

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>>378075150
That still doesn't fix the voiced protagonist, one dimensional companionsexcluding valentine he's actually cool, lack of choice in side quests, lack of any change towards the world at all when you complete those quests, terrible animations, terrible weapon design, terrible gun continuity, shitty voice acting, shitty facial animation, no skills, RNG speech checks, only ever having speech checks that boil down to "sweeten the deal with more caps ;)))", and above all else boring as fucking sin repetitive shootan lootan game design. Like OP said, it's fucking irredeemable, just play Far Cry or get some actual taste and play New Vegas.

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>>378073952
anyone with half a brain already knew it was going to be shit when Bethesda first revealed it in E3.

fallout 4 is the only bethesda game I played to completion without having to install any mods to keep me interested. I don't know why everyone says it's worse than fallout 3 or skyrim.

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>>378073952
The gameplay is great. The story and factions are absolute dogshit, however. Easily worse than Skyrim's already dumbed down factions. Now just watch the Railroad ending be the canon one.

>>378075150
>War Never Changes overhaul

>Merge a ton of existing mods together
>Call it your own
Why is it allowed? Oh wait, we are living in a world where GUN is a thing

>>378075745
Please please please do yourself and I a favour and play them. You will not regret it man, they are the best games in the series without a doubt. I thought the same way as you initially, but after getting about an hour or two into it I was really impressed and surprised. Theres one channel on Youtube, RetrospectiveGaming, that covers the first two Fallout games extensively.

Word of caution though, focus on AGI and END for well rounded combatants, and AGI INT for characters who talk their way into and out of things, CHR is useless.

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>>378073952
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.

30-40 hours seems to be the max playtime.

>>378073952
>they didn't remove the size limit, build a city and ignore the shitty main story arc
even so I don't disagree, thinking of replaying NV.

>>378073952
>played 30 hours
If it was so shit why did you play for more than a day?

>>378076250
so what? the dialogue in bethesda games was always shit. even in new vegas you probably spend less than 5% of your total playtime having conversations with npcs. it's far more important for the other 95% of the game to not be complete garbage.

>>378074827

Was the opposite for me, the game was alright at first, wasn't anything amazing but it was entertaining enough as a melee build. As I got further into the game the more I started to loae interest as the story, world, and quests were just lacking. I ended up just burning through the main story just to get it done.

>>378075129
>Thank you god it's fucking perfect
More like, thank you Todd, it's fucking perfect.

>>378073952
Shut up shill. Any game that keeps me playing for at least 30 hours is worth the purchase price for me. If it wasn't fun or complete shit, I wouldn't have played for 5 hours, let alone 30.