How are you guys enjoying it? The weak maps are a letdown, but

Sacred Stones

>>378055874
The director for Echoes said that he would like to do a remake for FE6: The Binding Blade, so I guess that

>>378055937
>>378056380
>remaking GBA games
>not SNES ones
What the shit

is the overclass dlc out yet and do the classes get addional arts with the class?

>>378058095
Don't support this games DLC

>>378059862
I'd buy the season pass next week if I didn't need to save money for an outing in a couple of weeks

>>378056923
gaiden was basically a sacred stones prototype

Enjoying it way more than I did Awakening or any of Fates. I haven't played every game in the series, but it's currently my favorite of the bunch (that is, of the 6 or so I've played).

I think the gaiden mechanics are my favorite in the series, so I can look past the maps.

I don't think it's going to be one of my all-time favorites in the series but I'm enjoying it. It's a solid entry and reaffirms that I still love FE at its core and my lukewarm reaction to Fates could just be a bump in the road.

>>378056380
Makes sense if they are bringing japanese only titles to the west for the first time.

I still want a remake of 7, though.

>>378055874
im on chapter 3 so how many chapters are left?

I didn't even dislike the desert maps that much. It was only when I hit the toxic marsh that I started agreeing with the shitty maps consensus.

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>head towards the Dragon Shrine to grind the Pesasus duo and promote Atlas
>they get anal and leave once I kill Blake
Fuck you three, especially you, Palla, since I gave you that kill

Are you not supposed to be able to kill Jedah the first time you fight him?

>>378061221
You're supposed to just endure the eyeball reinforcements for a while. Eventually he'll get bored and leave.

>>378061312
But I want the dracoshield.

>>378061221
You're not, but you do get a sweet Dracoshield once you de-rust it if you do beat him

>>378061221
>he didn't get jedah's draco shield

7/10
It has issues but I like lots of it

>backtrack to idol for reclassing
>all monsters respawn
>beat them again
>time to reclass again
repeat

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>>378061446
>he didn't kill the double, defeat Jedah, AND forge their own Dracoshield

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Echoes was by the IntSys team that did Code Name S.T.E.A.M, which itself had a lot of love for Gaiden (the developers have a fondness for it, they said in an interview).

The "FE team" has been working on FE Switch so I don't expect any of the good QoL changes that came out of Echoes to continue in that game, rather they'll just continue from what they thought worked in Fates.

Really, Echoes just shows the S.T.E.A.M team was dealt the short end of the stick and that they have potential.

>>378060995
>game tells you that Atlas has beef with Greith while Palla and Catria want to save Est
>explicitly ignore this and head towards Mila's Shrine instead

There's are Mila Statues in earlier parts of the game if you just wanted to promote your units.

>>378061382
But how do you beat him if you can't damage him?

>>378061758
I forgot since I was working. Either way, got the Brave Sword for Atlas, so at least he doesn't need too much babying

>>378061915
attack three times, on the fourth, send your saber over and have him use roundhouse and crit

>>378062114
Oh, I see.

what floor of duma tower do I get the lady sword? forgot ot get it during hte campaign

how many chapters does this game have?

>>378061650
oh god no, i had hope but this just confirms we're going back to waifus and children and endless grind doesnt it?

>>378061650
your ass isn't a valid source

>>378062963
6 Acts. The fifth is basically just one long dungeon while the sixth is post-game stuff with a bunch of boat maps and a 10-floor dungeon filled with enemies with huge stats

is there any way to farm duma moss?

I've only played Sacred Stones, Awakening and Fates (Birthright). Would I enjoy this? Birthright got pretty boring.

>>378055874
I've never played a Fire Emblem game before. Any suggestions on where to start with this series?

>>378062963
Two acts with one lord, two acts with both lords, the final dungeon, and the postgame.

>>378060798

Chapter 4 is as long as 3.
Chapter 5 is one big dungeon.
Chapter 6 is post-game, also a dungeon and a few boat maps.

who are you guys planning to use the villager fork on? i was thinking boey at first but i might give it to lukas or forsyth for an extra dread fighter

>>378065892
All 3 of those games are similar to Gaiden in that EXP is an unlimited resource, and the maps are open with not a lot of natural choke points. I'd at least try one of the games that isn't like that, like FE7.

>>378061650
I wish they'd go back and add the other characters into steam. I want the music without having to use ike. And Marth too I guess.

>>378067376
7, titled simply "Fire Emblem", on the GBA. It's a little outdated in presentation but it has an extensive tutorial and is a solid entry all around.

If you're worried that a GBA game will be too outdated to get into, try Awakening on 3DS.

>>378067376
-Start with FE7 aka "Blazing sword" or just Fire emblem GBA, bit old but still amazing top game up to date in terms of strategy/story/replayability its a very solid game overall.

-Then, if you wish to know how FE7 really ends, go for FE6 aka "Sword of seals" also for GBA.

-If wanna skip story, go FE8 aka "Sacred Stones" is a easier fire emblem overall but its just to finish the GBA trilogy, also the story is incredibly dark and good, its just the pace what tilts manchildren so dont listen to haters. if you take the time to enjoy the plot you will love it.

-Then, you can go either Gamecube's FE9 "Path of radiance" or FE10 "Radiant dawn". I highly recomend you Path of radiance since its an amazing story too, and the -only- different one where the MC isnt a baby Lord spoilered by his kingdom and allied territories.

-From here, you can choose to play the hardest FE games, FE4 "Genealogy of the holy war" - arguably the BEST fire emblem and in my opinion one of the best game and story implemented together-, FE5 "Thracia 776" cannonically known as the hardest one, its kind of a complement for FE4.

-FE1,2 and 3 are very outdated, if you wanna play Gaiden(FE2), you better play Echoes, Shadows of valentia, its an outstanding game. FE1 and 3 arent much a good thing, and the remakes feel weird because of the art(and pretty much almost everything) so i dont recommend you either those or their DS remakes.

-FE Fates and Awakening are solid by themselves, you can play them whenever you want, only after GBA games so you get used to support system and stuff. Warning: Becarefull of waifus, these games are full of waifu-bait, i personally hated about Fatesf the obssesion everyone has on the MC.

Have fun/.

>>378068989
>-FE Fates
>solid
the only thing solid about fates is the gameplay

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I knoe Boey has some bad growths, but come on, this is ridiculous

>>378069298
Yeah, the most important part.

>>378069620
wew lad he got fucked even harder than usual.

>>378069620
Mine is a higher level and still has 4 speed.

>>378069990
>story isn't important
fucking trash, cunts like you will be the death of the franchise

>>378070152
>gameplay being the most important means story is not important at all
Damn son, how did you make it past middle school? And if you're looking for story you're looking in the wrong franchise, even at its best FE stories are only ever "okay".

>>378070376
in what world is conquest retarded writing acceptable

>>378070152
Most FE games don't have amazing stories. They tend to play around the same plot points and usually don't go outside the box. Fates tried but the execution was screwed up and I don't doubt that Revelation (the "almost everyone is happy" route) fucked with the main premise of having to choose between two families. The Radiance games did go a lot more into political intrigue and (a bit hamfisted) racism but that too wasn't as good because of Blood Pacts and surprise-Goddess boss.

>>378070478
Did you reply to the wrong person? I never said it was.

>>378070558
don't try to deflect, that's exactly what you were implying when you said story isn't "that important"

>>378061650
STEAM is so great.

>>378070750
Are you having a hard time reading my posts?

>>378070838
no

>>378070876
I think you are, so I'll summarize what I've said: Gameplay is the most important part of FE.

>>378070504
Fates' premise didn't really stray from the series norm at all. There was still a good kingdom and a bad kingdom, except now they were even more generic than usual.

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>not getting the CE and the Amiibo that will save your ass from time to time

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>ugh UWAAUA

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I can't decide if I want to play Echoes.

Am I really going to miss the weapon triangle etc?

>>378071094
Are the amiibo summons actually good? I have yet to try them

>>378068989
Your post seems to imply that you can play FE9 and FE10 in any order. I'd say that you should always play FE9 first since FE10's story is quite reliant on FE9's story.

Also FE11 was a bit barebones but FE12 was fine.

>>378070152
>BUT THE DRAGONS/GODS.
Literally every fire emblem.

>>378071169
Weapon Triangle was largely useless bullshit to begin with, but given the RNG rates in this game you might miss it a bit. No Axes that you control though, so that's fucked.

>>378071169
No

>>378071169
Weapon triangle being absent has made the game a hundred times more enjoyable. Makes the game more focused on class abilities and positioning rather than rock paper scissors.

>>378071302
Gods/Dragons are pretty much never the true villain in Fire Emblem. They may be the final boss but they're rarely the instigator.

>>378055874
Ideally I'd like to see FE 4 & 5 bundled into one package. Not sure how the logistics of it would work. A 6 + 7 remaster might work out better in that regard.

>>378071169
I didn't even notice it was gone

However it's not a game that's going to test your ability. I was pretty disappointed there was no lunatic mode because hard mode was a cakewalk.

>>378071197
If you have any of the FE Amiibos, yes.

>>378071648
>I grinded and used Milas turnwheel, game was too easy.

Is Atlas supposed to have such shit skill?

>>378071785
atlas is est but shit

>>378071739
Didn't grind, lol. Late game there were levels where I spammed invoke and won because I was too lazy to move my units around a hill, but sure lets pretend the game is hard

>>378072119
Does anyone other than Genny get Invoke?

>>378072119
>My primary tactic was to use a spell that gives me expandable units at a cost of NOTHING.
Ahahaha.

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Doot is cute!

>>378072225
Tatania does, I think.

>>378072332
reddoot

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>its a "Cantor summons hundreds of gargoyles" episode
>its a "Cantor summons hundreds of necrodragons" episode
>its a "Witch Cantor that summons more Witches"" episode

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Ok, hear me out guys. I thought what I needed to recruit Zeke was just to kill everyone except him in the map, but apparently I actually needed some girl that Nuibaba has captive first. I retreated and now Zeke is the only one left in the field. It's fine if I kill Nuibaba get the girl and come back later for Zeke, right?

Right?

>>378072225
I think so but hers are the best.

>>378072256
Are you going to defend the games difficulty or attack the fact that I could easily beat a map by using one spell? I bet you can't do both

>>378072521
You used a zero risk and all reward strategy, retard. Of course that will trivialize the games difficulty.

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>>378071710
Should I?

>>378071169
You won't notice or miss it.
It's honestly actually better without it.

>>378056923
They can't remake genialogy, modern FE fanbase can't stomach that. Hell, I can't, who the fuck can?!

>>378072225
Tatiana gets to Invoke Peg Knights and Silque gets to Invoke Dread Fighters. In terms of quality Silque BTFO Tatiana and Genny but she gets her Invoke very late compared to the other two.

>>378071040
I think IS was aiming to make at least Nohr morally gray, even if it was only through the royal siblings. I agree with you that it ultimately ended up as a standard good kingdom vs. evil kingdom with a crazy dragon kingdom being the ultimate evil.

>>378072683
why, too much story and gameplay for you to handle?
>>378072757
fates would have been better if it was a Law and Chaos ordeal where you slowly become corrupted by joining nohr

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Daily reminder that Forsyth is just Lukas with better Atk, Spd, and Res. He's literally better than Lukas, and you're all retarded for saying otherwise.

>>378071607
>A 6 + 7 remaster might work out better in that regard.
How the fuck would that work? You play the entire game and then warp back in time and play your dad?

>>378072928
>genealogy
>gameplay

>>378070152
>MUH STORY!
Cancer. Gameplay is king in these games, if you played a FE game for its story you're fucking retarded. I hope this is a falseflag.

>>378072614
It's not even a strategy and that's the problem. It's just spamming summons and it is trivializing in regard to the difficulty being labelled hard. Continue to tell me about all of the other items and spells I should stop using before we can pretend it's a hard game.

I'm sorry you had so much trouble beating it apparently

>>378072993
Yeah but his voice is annoying and his personality is shit.

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so whats the next remake going to be?

>>378073107
awakening was a mistake

>>378056380
good that's the one i was thinking of. I want them to take out the whole you have to let your units die thing for the gaiden levels tho.

>>378073107
Not him but I only played FE4 because people in fire emblem threads always said it had the best or "only good" story in the franchise.

It was alright.

>>378073228
Awakening literally saved Fire Emblem from becoming Nintendo's next Metroid

>>378072928
>too much gameplay for you to handle

U wot m8

Horse God Emblem is easier than Awakening unless you purposely fuck up.

>>378073309
and drew in shitters like you into the fanbase, you are the real cancer
>>378073405
FE4 was the only game that did children right since you are bringing up awakening

>>378072993
Lukas has much better availability though

>>378055874
If Genealogy of the Holy War got an Echoes edition I would die of excitement.

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wow queen youre so beautiful

I actually really want a FE6 remake since I can realistically see them fixing a lot of the issues the game has.

>>378073503
the fanbase and game would be dead without awakening.

>>378073228
Sure? Not sure what that has to do with my post.

>>378073290
All FE stories are "ok" or bad. I don't understand what people see in these game's plots

>>378073503
Better have a franchise with shitters like you than not having a franchise at all

>>378073782
better off dead than filled with autismal weebs and fujoshits

>>378055874
I've been enjoying it a lot, I accepted that Gaiden was the Simon's Quest, Adventure of Link, etc. of the series from the beginning, so having repeating maps for general areas and stuff doesn't really bother me.
As for what I'd like to see, FE4 and then FE5 I guess, I haven't gotten around to playing them yet, and a remake would be a surefire way to speed up the process of me getting around to them, plus, to me, it'd make sense to remake the older games first anyways.

What's wrong with Conquest's story?

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>let me just teleport into a forest with my high res so you'll have a horrible time trying to counter kill me and snipe one of your week res units with no indication of where I'm going to warp to
Fuck witches and their bullshit.

Cantors who infinitely spawn terrors for 1 HP are cancer too.

>>378073929
Apparently still good enough for you to hang around.

>>378073595
Oh wow lady palutena!

>>378073929
(You)

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Is it time?

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BUREIZINGU SOOOOOOOOOOODO

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>>378072658
>sacrifice 10 HP to summon an amiibo near an enemy with a shield
>yfw all aboard the rape train

>>378073929
>I'm so autistic I'd rather have this game dead rather than to have other people play it.
k

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>>378061650
Interesting if true. Source would be nice.

I really like STEAM but the beginning chapters are really rough and the whole thing could do with some polish.
>tfw saw a copy going for 4 bucks at an EB Games

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>mfw Dread Fighter Saber with the brave sword

>>378073987
corrin doubles down on going full retard
>>378074068
yould you have preferred "filled with cucks"

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>all these fags saying story isn't important in fire emblem
>literally the only thing it has over other SRPG'S is story

If I wanted to play an SRPG that just only cares about gameplay, I'd play advance wars or tactics. Conquest is casual babby shit compared to AW1 advance campaign.

so do I need to reach level 20 or just 10 to overclass?

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FAIA BOOOOOORU

>>378074185
(You)

>>378074212
Reclass ASAP. Exp gain offers diminishing returns passed 10 and you'll be begging for the promotion for mages, clerics, and pegasus knights since they promote later. Female mages promote at fucking 14.

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>>378069620
>Mae trashtalking him with that BIG HURTY LIGHTNING line
>She's just being a bitch there's no way he's that much worse than her
>part 3 and she's doubling everything to death with lightning while Boey sometimes gets a kill via crits on his single attack

>>378073987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5H5ybachO0

>>378073987
It's simply not told well at all. Corrin comes off as being totally spineless (how justified this is depends on how much you like Corrin) and unrealistically dedicated to killing as few people as possible for serving a king that is only okay with maximum death. The justification for Corrin being okay with invading Hoshido is really dumb as well (magic orb that shows you the truth but it breaks after 1 use so we can't actually tell anyone teehee).

>>378074268
when does she get this skill?

>>378074335
What about the whole thing Villagers are better reclassed at 20?

>>378073987
I was writing out what was wrong with Conquest's story, but my post got really long and it was actually making me angry just to type so I had to delete it.

>>378074375
Upgrade the golden dagger into a sword and have her use it.

>>378074418
Generally you want to reclass the villagers at 10, but there is no harm in reclassing at 3. It makes little difference

>>378074418
If you're going for max stats you can hold out until 20. It just takes a long-ass time due to how EXP gain works in Echoes and the instant stat gains from promotion to match class bases makes it a moot point for most purposes.

>>378074445
>Upgrade the golden dagger into a sword
I thought you weren't supposed to use that dagger after giving it ot saber

>>378074210
Advance Wars isn't even an RPG. And I just don't enjoy the FFT games as much after playing FE.

>>378073987
>Corrin encounters enemy army
>win battle
>"gee Corrin, it was tough to subdue all of those enemies without killing anyone!"

>Prince of Nohr encounters all leaders of opposing army, unarmed and locked up
>sets them free because winning a war this way is just not honorable

>>378074210
FFT and AW: DoR both have better plot than any FE game don't kid yourself. FE stories where never good.

>>378071197
>playing Chapter 1 of the game
>Decide to do Alm's amiibo dungeon
>get to the third stratum of it
>Dread Fighter with Brave Sword
>decide I'm boned, try the Amiibo summons
>Summon Ike, he takes maybe 12 damage total because the Dread Fighter critted twice
>nearly halves the dread fighters health
If I wasn't retarded with positioning I could've won that fight with amiibo alone.

>>378074604
You can take back the dagger whenever you want, it's not locked to Saber. The sword you get from upgrading the dagger (Beloved Zofia) is a Celica-exclusive weapon anyway.

>>378073929
>autismal weebs and fujoshits
Pretty sure the fujos at the least came in with 9/10.

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>>378074016
>any maps with spots that let witches sit in high Dodge areas and throw lightning bolts at everyone

it's either I take 15 turns to kill them reliably with magic or risk it all with a lance or some arrows, I fucking hate that shit.

>>378074543
>>378074576
Understood, guess ill reclass everyone at 10 always then

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This fucking faggot is a godsend in Celicas squish squad.

>>378073187
Echoes directer said he'd like to do FE6. I'm fine with any Japan only-game getting a remake. I already played FE6 but I also went out of my way to get a Japanese box copy.

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>>378074748
>went through the entire five original acts without knowing this
fuck me in the goddamn ass

>>378074689
>>Prince of Nohr encounters all leaders of opposing army, unarmed and locked up
>>sets them free because winning a war this way is just not honorable
Hey, that one is a matter of principles!

>>378074741
Sounds interesting. Probably shit at where I'm at but that sounds like they're pretty strong for the main game

>>378074748
Dafuq. Do they even talk about that in the story?

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I thought was trying to meme me. Celica's army is shit and the maps gave me ass cancer.

Why can't the amiibo give permanent fighters? I want to make a full army of Roy, Marth, Ike, Lucina, Robin, Corrin, and Corrin (male). As well as the crossover Link, Shulk, and Pit.

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>>378055874
Famicom Wars

>>378074868
My Leon is a Lv8 Sniper and only has 8 Speed, 6 effectively with the Iron Bow. Should I just feed him the cheese?

>>378074653
As someone who has played both, I can tell you they're not so different. Staymad conquestfag.

>>378075143
First time I summoned an amiibo it was too far to do anything and disappeared after taking 10 health.

At least there's already hacks to let you class change into anything. Probably the easiest way to go about it.

>>378075143
because you are playing a real fire emblem game
>>378075108
>says this while posting the biggest wench in the franchise
did you like faye and camilla as characters?

>>378075108
Why is that? Im at chapter 2 and I'm feeling it is actually easier than Alm's army

So can you get a wife and kids in this one too?
If not I will just stick with Heroes.

>>378075283
Forge a steel bow into a silver bow and then into a killer bow. That gives him a skill that lets him strike twice with more accuracy and mt

>>378075564
There isnt even a you in the game, man

I just finished it. I like it but this probably has my least favorite map design in any FE game.
Self insert MCs are shit and it was nice to actually play as meaningful characters in a new FE.

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>>378075401
Faye is my bae
>>378075490
Wait till ch 3 with the desert maps and swamp maps

>>378075401
>real Fire Emblem game
Don't be silly. None of these games are difficult.

Can the Silver Bow's Ward skill seal Jedah's magic? He's immune to alignments but I don't know if that counts.

>>378075664
It's as if they made the game specifically for people to marry Faye and Camilla.

Kind of how in Awakening it's made for you to fuck Chrom's relatives

>>378072928
Nope, genealogy kills all your characters in the midgame and then makes you play with their kids. The modern FE fanbase barely can stand mandatory deatgs, people was mad over the dragon girl dying in revelations not matter what you do. You think think they can handle losing EVERYONE?

If you reclass a mage into a cleric do they keep the spells?

>>378055874
>What's the next FE game you'd like to see get the Echoes treatment?
One with a MU

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>>378075108
>Alm has a balanced party with too many lance users on alright maps versus human enemies
>Celica has too many Dread Fighters, Pegasus Knights and mages on desert and swamp maps versus monster enemies
I really dislike Celica's side because of what you face, but I can at least cheese it with multiple Dread Fighters equipped with Brave Swords.
Meanwhile, I have no idea what to give to
>Clive, Mathilda, Clair, Lukas, Forsyth (Zeke, Mycen)
>Palla, Catria, Est (Masked Knight)

>>378075716
It won't work. Even then I'd rather use someone that has a good chance of killing him when his guard drops instead of wasting that opportunity on debilitating him.

>>378075802
Kinda. If I get a breeded army in the process, I'm fine with that.

Then again, it seems in the remake, they made the characters incorporate more anime tropes. A genealogy remake would be full of brocons, kohais and chuunis

>>378073595
Why does she look extremely similar to Palutena

who are you fucks using the villagers fork on? im thinking forsyth or maybe boey

>>378075802
fuck what the nufags can and can't handle, the salt from those that got into the series just for shipping will be glorious

>>378075587
Nice, I'll do that. Celica's route lacks a lot of lances and bows, but I'm just getting started on the assault on Grieth

>>378075802
Well, she died and we got nothing nor any compensation. That was my biggest complain.

>>378059862
>season pass costs more than game
But I'm a good goy!

>>378055874
It's better than Gaiden, but still pretty bad. The gameplay is only marginally better, but even Awakening was more complex and challenging gameplay wise. And the characters are awful. They have near zero development and are even more one dimensional than the other 3DS games as a result.

>>378075802
>Remakes are for modern fans
That's where you're wrong.

>>378075401
>real fire emblem game
Huh. No wonder this game is so easy.

>>378074178
wait till you get Astra

>>378076319
>It's better than Gaiden, but still pretty bad. The gameplay is only marginally better, but even Awakening was more complex and challenging gameplay wise.
Alright you can shut the fuck up now

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>>378076319
>why can't I fuck fae the post

>>378076319
This is a terrible post. The other 3DS games are terrible, Echoes is a 6/10 at least. The way skirmishes work easily drops the game by 2 points though.

>>378076326
But most of the current FE fanbase are awakening first fags.

>>378076418
Astra is DLC exclusive.

>>378076481
Got anything to support that?

The history is fucking disgusting literally a ti novela

>>378075802
Losing your entire army and getting an entirely new army isn't functionally different from beating Shadow Dragon and then just playing a different game.

On the other hand, just killing a unit off for drama and giving nothing in return is just a kick in the pants.There's a reason they decided Jagen should fall off in usefulness rather than be killed off.

anyone past ch3 can answer a question for me
if i finish alm/celica side can i still do their subquests or are they gone from the map/unplayable till i finish the other side and go to act 4

>>378076616
No it's not. It's just a bitch to get because of how rare it is.

>>378076459
Fucking NTR fans of writers

>>378076676
look at half of the posts in this thread

>>378076676
The fact awakening saved FE and caused a "newbie boom".

>>378076450
>Echoes has worse maps
>less classes
>less features like weapon level/triangle
>no weapon usage
>Is even more of a numbers game than awakening
>easier to beat as well
There is nothing remotely challenging or strategic about Echoes.

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>Sluice gates level
>bum rushing these mages so I can beat Dealthea's teleport/reduce the amount of turns she tries to kill herself
>turn 3
>Dealthea teleports and attacks literally my strongest unit
>instant counter-attack critical

At least teleport to one of my useless archers you dumb fucking asshole. Or maybe you could attack Alm who won't one-shot you with ranged counter attacks.

The AI is really stupid in this, even on Hard. I sometimes make mistakes that would guarantee a reset in any other fire emblems, but in this one I feel like the enemy tries to split up as best they can and not focus on the weaker units when possible.

>>378076157
Another interesting option is steel->longbow. In addition to an extra range(although he can't retaliate against melee units anymore) it has a skill that pins people if it hits. They won't be able to move

>>378076812
>>378076794
>Everyone is a nostalgiafag
>Old players can't enjoy new games

>>378076887
Chapter 6.

>>378076730
Is not the same, you see the characters you grown attached DIED and you can't do a shit. Imagine all the genealogy cast redesigned by hidari, all the girls are top cute, would you like all those girls suddenly killed off?

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>that medusa tome on the Nuibaba map
JUST

>>378076965
>high enemy stats = more difficult
I might as well just say lunatic + exists and call it a day.

>>378076781
Yes, you can't move on to Act 4 without doing something on both sides on the last area.

>>378076993
thanks for proving my point about the cancer drawn in by awak4ening. I was like you until I saw the light through FE 4,6,7,8 and shadow dragon

>>378075856
no

Were Berkut's actions near the end of the game justified? maybe not including sacrificing his fiance and turning her into a witch

>>378076906
Move everyone forward together except Silque. Keep her a bit detached from the group in the back, and the loli will go for her.

>>378077293
berkut was nothing more than a raging manchild, he isn't fit to run a nation

>>378077258
But you don't lose any units in those games by plot reasons.

>>378077421
You gotta admit his VA got really into it, though

>>378077423
>But you don't lose any units in those games by plot reasons.
>FE 4 in my list
shipperfags can't read, what a surprise

>>378059862
What is the DLC anyways? Haven't bought any of the other FE DLC so I don't really know what they have.

>>378077421
At least his VA really sold just how autistic Berkut is, shit was gravy man

>Lord Berkut please calm down
>SHUT THE FUCK UP WOMAN MUH WORLD OF STR I HAD TO USE EVIL JESUS POWERS FROM A FUCKING DEGENERATE FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>378077258
8 and 4 are easy as Awakening.

>Echoes is going to be the greatest FE since the Tellius games
>because no MU
So /v/ what's it like being wrong, why do you needlessly hate a feature that makes the game more entertaining?

>>378077636
fucking this, every moment of his tantrum was golden
>>378077674
>I haven't played the game

>>378077674
>Echoes is going to be the greatest FE since the Tellius games
Nobody said this.
>because no MU
MUs are cancer, but more for their effects on the plot and gameplay than anything else.
>So /v/ what's it like being wrong, why do you needlessly hate a feature that makes the game more entertaining?
>why do you needlessly hate a feature that makes the game more entertaining?
thanks for the bait, anon

Is Alm voiced by 9S? If that is the case, i hope there is massive angst

>>378077858
Alm is 9S,

Look, the maps are boring sure, but the fact they had the fucking guts to literally remake exact replicas...

Just a big fuck you we can do what we want asshole.

>>378076993
>would you like all those girls suddenly killed off?
Yes, because that's my fetish.

Chapter 5 is basically the end chapter of FE4: P1 anyways. Your 'investment' in those characters, both gameplay (ie spending time to baby up a character) and storywise is completed. I'm fine with that. Fucking with someone's investment in a game is a dick move when they still have a whole bunch of the game left, which is why traitors/plot deaths of single party members are a pain in the ass.

>>378077946
Does his waifu gets impaled and he loses it?

>>378078063
he sacrifices her to Duma and she turns into Sati

>>378076993
Yeah. As long as I get another army.

For anyone familiar with Gaiden:

Did they change Alm/Celica's personalities?

>>378077830
>Playing a FE for the freshmen level writing
Gameplay they're fine, they don't make games any easier or more difficult than they already are.

>>378078209
no because they didn't really have personalities.

>>378078239
>Playing a FE for the freshmen level writing
Better freshman than literally fucking retarded holy shit fuck Fates and fuck Corrin.

>Tried to do some last minute leveling for the class change before Act 2
>People kept critting all the time so the guys I wanted to class change couldn't finish off things for the EXP
Seriously everyone is a fucking Crit machine. Kliff just destroys everything in his wake.

>>378078239
Kris and Robin literally broke 12 and 13. Only Conquest Corrin was fine because he was god-tier but not broken tier unless you grind with the DLC.

where can i play the DLC?

Is trying to kill jedah in the dooma swamp a reasonable thing to do or should I not bother

>>378077576
Worse than the past dlcs.
>2x the grinding maps
>driving the price of the pass up
>all classes now have an ugly dlc overclass
>all of them are individual dlcs with no maps
>so now you have a load of shitka horse armor dlc
At least the past dlc classes looked pretty good with functionality and maps to beat.
>prologue dlc
Not that interesting.
Overall shitka cash grab dlc. Game is a remake though and the dlc strikes as extra content but the price is insane for how little is given.

>>378069620
How did you get Boey to be white?

>>378078372
>replace Mary Sue MU with equally Sue lord
Its the same shit

>>378078563
Kris was a great addition, instead of being saddled with the literal Jeigan who would suck exp up you can fill his spot with something you want and that exp isn't being wasted.

>>378078664
if you have saber with a silver sword and roundhouse unlocked, it's doable

Archer or Cav Boey? Gave him the free Pitchfork. Wanted him to work because I like his chemistry with Mae and he has a nice design. 4 base Spd is decent normally but pretty shit for a Mage.

My concern is the fact that you get the Whitewings in Celica's route. From my experience after playing Arc 1, Pegs tend to be better than Cavs, or maybe it's just Clive being generally underwhelming and Clair being incredible. Also since Celica's route seems to have a ton of monsters and terrain, I'm not sure if using a Cav is a good idea.

Not sure what to do about Atlas (probably will make him an Archer though not sure about his hitrates) and I will be picking Sonya over Deen.

>>378078705
Out of all of them prologue DLC is the only thing sounding interesting. But not enough to really buy anything.

man, Catria is hot

guys.. i think faye is fucked in the head.. what do?

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>>378055874
>Enemy hits me with 41% of accuracy
>I attack back and miss with 95%

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>>378078827
You think he can dew it? He gets 60+ crit with the Saber support.

>>378078628
It's in the connect menu

>>378078209
Not really, although they didn't really have a whole lot to begin with.
Alm has a heavy focus on family and a close attachment to anyone he deems as such and pretty much goes nuclear when the concept is involved. He also doesn't give a fuck about the enemy and doesn't hesitate to kill fuckers unless he has a good reason not to.
Celica still has her desire to solve shit on her own because she doesn't want her husbando to get hurt and still acts like a cunt to Alm, although they did add in a few scenes showing how much she regretted acting like that. She also embodies the Zofian lifestyle in that she believes that everything will be solved if they find and bring back "muh earth mother".
She's also still a dumb cunt, except this time she has FOUR people to slap some sense into her.

>>378078372
They just need to tone the MU's role down from "Actually the big bad"/"Actually responsible for all half the main lord's legacy"/"Basically the centre of the universe in their games" to "Some guy who is part of the army, and also they're you". FE7/FE12 were close, characters spoke to (You) and there's reasons why (You) would be closer to some characters than others but the game is still about Lord Fencer fighting dragons.

...Ignoring the bit in FE12 where you become Venom Marth to bolster the real Marth's legacy, I mean.

>>378078984
Fuck her.

>>378072993
Seriously? Mine has like 10 less key stats overall at the same level

>>378078934
What about the card characters DLC? Who are those characters anyway? I can't find pics.

>>378079038
>MU
>FE7
The strategist doesn't count because its not a unit you actually use

>>378079356
Good thing you use them in 13.

Some tips:

Killer Bow is the best bow in this game by far. Crit weapons are king, and on top of that Killer Bow has the Hunter's Volley combat art, which is a 2-hit attack. This essentially allows Archers to double attack ANYONE. Killer Bow turns Archers from puny stone throwers into gods.

Mage Ring is the best ring for your mages. You get 2 of them, equip them on your best mages. The +2 range is HUGE, it gives Mages incredibly attack range and allows them to kill enemies without getting counterattacked.

Brave Swords are OP as fuck, crit is king. It has shitty combat arts but the crit more than makes up for it

I've found all the legendary weapons to actually be incredibly disappointing

>>378078992
>Unit has higher speed and 92% chance to hit
>Misses both times
>Enemy has 43% chance to hit and 2% chance to crit
>Enemy crits and kills unit

Fucking what?

>>378079617
but not in their game and you can't alter their appearance, also Robin is not Mark.

>>378079617
>Good thing you use them in 13.
Can someone post the DEEP LORE Picture please?

>>378079734
>also Robin is not Mark.
That Lyn conversation is at least bait for the idea.

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>>378079725
This happened a while ago:

>Puts Silque in a tree patch
>cavalry unit attacks her
>51% of hit
>Hits twice
>She dies

how do I forge up the golden dagger for beloved zophia? don't see the option to forge it up

>>378078705
Overclasses seem "whatever". No map or unique equipment for them is a missed opportunity.
>map where you fight an enemy overclass unit to gain access to the shrine, showing you what they are before you get to use one yourself
>said enemy drops equipment that has a unique model but functionally identical to another weapon, based on different legendary weapons (ie Spartan drops a Ragnell lookalike)

>>378080446
I thought spartans use spears, also, are those out now, only see one option for all of them but the website shows seperate shirnes for purchase, which is confusing

>>378080397
on some towns there are smithys that you can ask to forge stuff

the golden dagger needs a gold coin by the way

>>378080397
Certain weapons need to be at a certain rank before the upgrade options show up. Level the dagger up

>>378080649
>>378080397
forgot to mention you also need to max out the upfrading first

>>378080649
I already knew about smothies, but I didn't know the gold dagger needed to be fully upgraded before the option to forge it up appears, didn't realize that was why it was so cheap to upgrade it

>>378080612
Each Overclass shrine is it's own DLC. So Spartan is one DLC, Exemplar is another etc.

Although you're right about the weapon thing. Siegmund might be a better choice for Spartan, get Sieglinde in there for Enchantress to hammer home that "Sacred Stones is Gaiden GBA" thing.

So I just started chapter 4, all of my characters are sitting around level 10-14, and I haven't changed anyone's class yet except for my villagers and the mandatory Celica class change.

Should I even bother changing characters classes now? Or should I just wait til 20? The game is still pretty freaking easy, and looking at the stat gains I get from class changing most of my characters, it's like 1 or 2 points, so I don't really see the point when I could just get a few more levels and easily outpace the class change stats beforehand.

How much longer is the game? Am I going to run into issues with difficulty because I'm waiting to change classes? Are there like special abilities to be learned and shit?

>>378078992
I've had so many situations where I've critted 4 times in a row, or gotten a clutch kill with 31% hit chance that I'm not even mad when RNGsus occasionally favors the enemies.

What overclasses are worthy? I was thinking in getting king, queen, witch and dark flyer.

>Warp Alm to Nuibaba with Silque
>One shot her with a combat art
>Rescue him with Faye

This is amazing.

Do I promote my villagers asap? What about nonvillagers and why?

>>378080976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFC421WX5zs

Where the fuck do I get steel lances ?
I still need 4 more for that missable quest and I'm in act 4.

>>378081616
The first cave has a statue that lets you class change
Gray - Merc
Kliff - Mage
Tobin - Archer
Faye - Cleric or Peg Knight whatever you want to do. You get one of each so you are pretty much just getting a second of one or the other
At certain levels everyone in your party outside of Alm can class change into their higher class. Better to just class change as quickly as possible just because of the low growth rate. You will most likely not reach the higher class base so just promote them quickly and just learn arts with the items.

>Reaches Unhappy Reunion in Conquest
>Enemy has a 3% crit chance against Camilla
>Enemy crits
>Next enemy with 4% crit chance crit kills Camilla

Conquest is great, they said!

>>378081454
>summon a few dread fighters
>they run up the hill like idiots
>suddenly they aggro their dread fighters
>shitfest ensues as no one dies because they keep dodging every attack

I love this game

>>378081951
Forge iron lances.

>>378082013
Faye is best off as a Cleric thanks to her busted spells.

>>378081843
how do you get rudolph's lance?

>>378081616
Promote quickly.
Gray - Merc
Tobin - Archer
Kliff - Mage
Faye - Cleric or Pegasus Knight

Atlas - Merc or Archer

The are the most agreed choices.

>>378082149
True just explaining what are some good options for each unit. Flying units aren't as weak as normal FE plus the weird way flying and archer damage is done.

>>378082339
>plus the weird way flying and archer damage is done.
I think it's just effective damage in general, feels like a +10 bonus to me.

>>378079653
What's the ideal lance? Silver for power, Javelin/Gradivus for 1 - 2 range, Rhomphaia for Rapier effects and an Art to add Spd to Atk?

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>>378055874
You guys playing this on Normal or Hard?

>>378082483
Hard/Classic for my first time.

>>378055874
I'd like Monsho no Nazo to get a remake that's actually good

>>378081843
>Guru's learns Invoke
>Summon undeads, dragons, and witches
Yeah ok there.

>>378067376
Release order. Every god damn time.

is Jesse a crit god for anyone else? He's a lot better than I expected him to be

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>>378055874
Honestly I'm enjoying the simplistic maps. It actually makes things a lot harder, with the terrain bonuses distributed in such a way that it doesn't always benefit your guys and you have to be careful about not letting the enemy team take cover. It's also really cool how you can be on the defensive if someone runs into you on the overworld, giving them the first turn and putting you in starting point usually assigned to the enemies. It's so much better than Fatewakening.

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>Act 4
>Cross the Zofia/Rigel Border and BTFO Bercoot
>mfw his autistic tantrum he makes in the following cutscene

>>378083284
That's what i thought at first too. Wait until you get to the boat/swamp maps.

>>378082483
Hard.

>>378082483
Hard/Classic which might as well be Casual since no one dies

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>>378083108
he's my strongest unit. every hit is a crit. same with saber.

>>378083735
wow dude you're so hardcore

>>378083108
He's the best merc bar none.
If you give him a brave sword and let him chill with his buttbuddy saber he will kill everything your mages can't.

>>378083841
dread fighters are so fucking broken, it's ridiculous

even Atlas is good as one

>>378078992
I missed like 4 consecutive 75% hit attacks in a map earlier
I felt like I was playing OG xcom

>>378082339
It's so weird how you can body block fliers in this game.

>>378083886
Thanks, I try my best

>>378082483
I did a strawpoll a few threads ago and almost everyone is playing on hard.

>>378082483
I normally play on Normal, but since the game said it was for newcomers to the series, I went Hard this time.

I'm about to fight Greith or whatever his name is
Do I go after Sonya or Deen?
I know I get whichever unit I don't kill

>>378084207
Both are good, pick who you like best.
You get a Brave Sword if you kill Deen tho

>>378084207
depends, both are good

do you want an edgemeister or ara ara~?

Sonya supports with Genny, which is the only support Genny even gets

plus you get Deen's sword from killing him anyway and you're pretty saturated with dread fighters in Celica's route

>>378082483
Normal, I never really see a reason to play on hard myself, even on repeated playthroughs since the normal difficulty always gives me enough challenge in FE.
Though if I did ironman runs, then I'd probably see a reason to switch.

>>378084207
Sonya if you want a to put effort into a mage that will learn excailbur and can teleport, Deen if you want a strong myrm right off the bat.

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>>378083430
I've just been doing the desert fortress maps. Sand is fucking brutal in this game, especially when you're footslogging towards a castle full of archers. Poor Valbar went into fatigue twice before I managed to clear that shit. I'm loving the sheer meanness.

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>>378083841


Jesse died on that tanker 2 years ago

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So why are archers (Bow Knights) virtually mandatory and absolutely bonkers?

The only hard counter to killing cantors
The only viable unit to successfully assassinate leader units in bullshit Celica swamp chapters
Absolutely bonkers damage with a Killer Bow

Thoughts on illusions?
I feel like they're super-useful in open maps but I feel like using them deprives units of a lot of experience

>>378084851
I've found that enemies target them even when they could kill squishy healers, which is nice

and in my experience they've mostly just done chip damage to enemies

>>378084658
I can't hear you over the sound of my new elephant hand cannoner, but yes you are right they're ridiculous. Super tedious to get archers to 20 and kind of tedious for snipers.

So its good?

>>378060995
>they get anal and leave once I kill blake
what? that didn't happen to me

>>378085137
Yeah

>>378084658
Tobin already shits out crits as if his life depended on it, so I can't imagine how he'd get more broken.

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>*teleports behind you*

>>378085235
Nice I thought the consensus would be very negative for some reason

>>378085137
Yes, BUT
Its way different from any of the newer FE games with different strengths and weaknesses.
There's too much for me to write in one post so look up details or just keep reading threads if you're curious

>>378085294
Oh no, anything but my invoke soldier!

>>378085219
They do
I tried promoting Atlas and him and the sister left.

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It's alright, the story and characters are nice and the art is top tier, but the maps suck and feeling pretty let down by no avatar and romantic supports.

>>378085294
>>378085379
I'm literally in this fight right now and this is what's happening
>>378084932
is completely right. Archers and witches seem to suddenly forget my army exists once there's an illusion on the field

>>378085442
sisters*

>>378085294
>half the cast says nothing personal when they win

Why is Echoes filled with edgelords?

>>378085297
Vocal minority.
Probably newer FE fans who weren't prepared for such a weird FE game

>>378085456
>no avatar and romantic supports.
Makes the game 10x better.

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>>378085456
I swear if I wasn't enjoying this game so much I'd still love it just for the salt it generates from nuEmblem bandwagoners.

>>378085456
There is a bit of romance but it's just support convos with people talking about third characters who aren't part of the conversation

>>378085614
Has me feeling much less invested, to be honest. Those features are what got me into FE so seeing them go is a big disappointment.

>>378085716
I'm not salty at all. Game is still great overall, but it's not as good as Awakening or Fates. Hopefully FE Switch brings back avatars and romance!

so how useful is it to upgrade weapons at the smithy?

The only weapon I've forged was Celicas Beloved Zofia

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I never understood this, why did they change his skin color again?

>>378085865
there is literally nothing else to spend money on so you might as well do it

>>378085838
shit opinion, but it's cool m8.

>>378086015
It's not his skin color, he's just a dirty boy

>>378086015
To trigger you.

>>378085865
I usually do it if a character needs an attack boost if I don't have any other weapons to give, or if a new weapon fucks with their speed too much. Tobin was pretty much using a 4 star Iron Bow the whole game until Rudolph's map. Also it's not like you have anything else to spend it on.
Sometimes though you have to upgrade weapons a bit to evolve them into different or more rarer ones.

>>378086015
so Clair could get BLACKED

>>378085838
Avatars and romance takes me out of it, I find characters more interesting if I didn't have any involvement in their creation, and I get a much better feeling seeing certain characters marry after the war is over, rather than having to choose who marries who on the battlefield, on top of those stupid POV scenes when the avatar unit marries someone.

>>378085865
Depends on the weapon. The rapier you get from forging a brave sword has a skill that guarantees a hit of that hit will kill. Blessed weapons also turn into the three regalia if you forge them although you can already find the Gradivus in the chapter 5 dungeon.

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Whats the best track in the game and why is it this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_Oz8XSCVA

>dat flute

>>378085865
Maybe it's because I'm not grinding, but forging doesn't seem as overly useful as some people are making it out to be. You really don't get that many coins.

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>72 crit
Tobin, calm the fuck down.

>>378072993
Forsyth has worse availability and comes underleveled, though.
Lukas should have quite a lot of levels by the time you get Forsyth, since he and Alm are the only characters that don't just do chip damage against the really early enemies. Hell, Lukas might even be promoted at that point.
Sure, Forsyth might end up better if trained up, but that requires a lot of favoritism/grinding. He's basically just Amelia.

>>378086294
I really like the recruitment theme, shame it doesn't play much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Me0gTsjFiE

>>378085865
>>378085865
Very. Longbow/Killer Bow are both really good, mainly for their skills. Rapier can be made on Celica's side and sent to Alm which puts in a shitload of work. You can also get Silver weapons a lot earlier than normal from forging (actually, I'm not even sure if you find any period on Alm's side), though I think the Silver Bow isn't worth using over the previous ones I mentioned.

>>378072993
I agree with this 100%, My Lukas is at the same level, or 1 level higher than Forsyth, and Forsyth outdoes him in almost every way.

>>378086216
I feel if the avatars were written better people would be more receptive to them. I hate that IS just make them blank slates for people to self-insert.

Even though I prefer creating my own character I'd take an actually well written protagonist over another Corrin disaster. Goddamn.

>>378086407
I feel like Lukas falls off kinda fast because he's so god damn slow. I made Tobin a Soldier and he completely replaced Lukas.

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So Dread Fighters are basically the swordmasters of the game? I haven't played FE since GBA by the way.

>>378084851
They're good as meat shields and to chip away at bulky bosses, I use them occasionally

Are the Zofian nobility supposed to commonly practice polygamy?

The King is of course mentioned to have had several wives, but Lukas also mentions having a half brother from a different mother. The Zofians are supposed to be degenerate as shit so I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

>>378086929
yes, Dread Fighters are Swordmasters with the bonus of having +5 RES bonus and receive halved magic damage