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less than 3 weeks, a lot of people are adamant its gonna happen

what are you holding out for?
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we need him
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Puff being good
Ganondorf being good
Bowser being good
Roy
Dr. Mario (being good)
Pichu (what if it was more powerful but hurt itself?)
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Nana and Popo
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>>378048672
this
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Alucard or a Belmont would be cool. More Belmont, there are tons of sword fighters but no whip fighters. Alucard is more of a knife fighter though, and has tons of potential for cool moves.
Also Bomberman
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literally anything from Zelda at this point

revali as an aerial-archer, tetra the pirate, skull kid doing..things

also anything from ARMS. the whole cast is likable to me so they can fish for whoever
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>>378049884
>skull kid doing..things

i cant wait
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>>378046228
Bomberman
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>>378049884
We're getting BOTW Link as a new character and you will like it.
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>>378046228
ashley
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>Smash is a game for clones
>Twintelle has a shot since she'll be a Bayo clone but with ARMS instead of HAIR APPENDAGES

Fuck yeah sure why the fuck not


It'll be Inkling (Female/Male) being a clone of Mii Gunner though. Sorry, but that's the truth. Splatoon's too popular in nipland to be anything but a Splatoon rep in smash
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Give me Ashley or give me death!!!!!!!!!!
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>>378049884
>Tetra
please nintendo. I need her
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>>378046228
Ray01
Squidling
Fossil Fighter
Wolf Link/Midna combo fighter.
Krystal, as a true staff fighter.
Reckless safety man.
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Just let me have him and I'll be satisfied
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>>378048585
What if it's two pichus, shiny and notch eared/Pichu brothers and they only hurt themselves when separated
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>>378046228

King Dedede buffs. Seriously. Bayonetta/DDD is damn near unwinnable. He loses almost every MU in the entire game.
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>>378056243
You mean Plusle and Minun?
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>>378056394
3D is fine.
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I couldnt see BOTW Link playing like Smash Link nowadays.
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>>378056394

>characters like Charizard/Shulk/Mewtwo/Ike/Samus get smart, focused buffs to push their strengths and slightly dilute their larger weaknesses
>Jiggs and D3, despite being initially as weak as the above, get completely left in the cold

what did they mean by this
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>>378056582

No he's not. You clearly don't play him. He gets camped out way too easily by pretty much everyone. If you played him, you'd know he wins 1 MU and 1 MU only. That's Jigglypuff. He's just barely even with Little Mac. Everyone else wins against him. That's not "fine."
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>>378046228
What would they call it? "Super Smash Bros for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS for Nintendo Switch"? They can't just call it "Super Smash Bros for Nintendo Switch", because I'm sure they're gonna want to bring out a new Smash Bros somewhere down the line in the Switch's lifetime.
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fuck the characters

What's a new, major mechanic you people would like to see added?

maybe its dumb, but i want there to be unblockables, but only a very select few moves. Something like the grounded Falcon/Warlock punch, Little Mac's charged B
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>>378057286

I just want to be able to run, jump and still have the momentum rather than coming to a dead stop. It's fucking annoying.
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>>378057286
little mac's ko punch is unblockable
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>>378046228
It will be a Smash 4 port with "turbo" mode and a few returning characters.

Screencap this.
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>>378046228
>people are actively asking for remasters
what a time to be alive
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>>378057286

3D fighting
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Ashley
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>>378046228
My money's on it not happening.
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>>378048585
>Not the game being good
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Melee HD with every character from Brawl and Smash 4
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>>378047298
I couldn't get into Smash 4 because of it.
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Regardless ill just keep playing melee more. Idk why you want a remaster lmao id defs prefer an actual new game. What retard wants to fork over 80 bucks for the same game with like 3 new characters jesus christ
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>>378046228
waluigi
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Do you guys prefer a Smash 4 Redux with more characters/3DS stages/balance patches or a completely new Smash 5 (probably released much later)?

I like the competitive Smash scene and follow it kind of closely, and Sm4sh is in a great spot right now. I'd like a port more than anything.
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>>378052429
BOTW Link would be the closest thing we'll get to a Jojo character in Smash. He'd summon the champions as Stands.
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>>378063701
I'd rather prefer a completely new game.
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>>378063701
Im not gonna buy the same game twice nigger. Fucking hell youre retarded. Youre the reason the gaming industry is im shambles
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>>378057286
An assist system like duodecim/SF X Tekken
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>>378063701
Smash 4 Deluxe with the following.
>Online Smash Run with all the WiiU modes. Since the Switch is a console that can be played as a handheld, then it should have everything from both versions.
>New characters. A Splatoon and ARMs rep would be welcomed. We need more gun characters, and ARMs has a great cast. Snake would be appropriate since Konami is glued onto Nintendo's dick. Update Zelda's fucking roster with a villain rep as Smash is lacking in badguys.
>Smash 5 teaser at the end of the trailer. Announce that Smash 4 will be getting balance patches until Smash 5 is released to keep people playing until then.
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>>378046228
Rayman
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Bayoen!
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>>378046228
Rhythm Heaven rep with a catchy beat while atacking
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>>378057153
Super Smash Bros For Switch, or SSB4S
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>>378056628
Gale Boomerang and Clawshot is literally the only thing TP Link has that BoTW Link does not. At best you'd be getting an alt.
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>>378063701
Smash 5
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>>378064807
>Super Smash Bros For Switch

But what if they want to release an all-new Smash Bros for the Switch later on? You'll confuse people.
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You know I am genuinely surprised Nintendo went through all that effort to have Rayman trophies in Smash yet Rayman himself isn't playable. Did something go south behind the scenes?
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>>378052429
you're damn right I will
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I know it's nice to dream, but if it does get ported we won't see another new character.

My hopes are getting 3DS/WiiU exclusive stages together, all DLC bundled, and Smash Run from 3DS.
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Its really kinda inevitable.
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>>378065354
This would be the best thing for sure

If you're not playing competitive or whatever I really think the 3DS verison is the superior one, it has the better stages and single player
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>>378065275
I'd imagine Ubisoft asked Nintendo if they could get Rayman in Smash, but Nintendo already had the bigger names of Mega Man and Pacman, so Nintendo just said "um, sure, we'll work something out".
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>>378057286
I want a "meter" system where you can burn a bit of meter to perform things like wave dashes, fast/long rolls, instant charged Smashes and a counter in place of spot-dodges, thus giving everyone a shitty counter so we can get some good, original Down-Bs. The Meter would also serve as your shield's health and would regenerate slowly. You would have to choose between defense and offense or "switch" between the two.
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>>378055235
The world will be a better place when you delusional Ashleyfags finally kill yourselves. Her theme isn't even good. Not in English or Japanese. It's just shit. Ashley is shit.
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Bayonetta should be a regular.
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>>378065467
this desu.
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I just want better balance and better recovery for Mac, but I know it will literally -n e v e r- happen.
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with xbc2 coming out she doesn't stand a chance does she
>you will never SLIDING SLINGER someone in smash
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>>378046228

>Samus dead center

hahahah as fucking IF
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i want to believe
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>>378066316
Bayonetta is pretty busted desu
Needs more nerfs
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>>378066456
>Little Mac is an absolute powerhouse on the ground yet has no air game.
>In a game where 95% of the characters have some sort of flight ability
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>>378066316
but she single-handedly ruined s4
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They need to seriously rebalance the whole game. Some attacks are way too effective:

Pikachu's quick attack
Link's projectile spamming
Swordsmen need more startlag or shorter range
Corrin needs to be overall nerfed
Zelda's Farore needs to have shorter range
Mewtwo needs to be less floaty or have much less startlag on many of his moves

The current balance is horrible.
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>>378055982
Krystal's been retconned out of existence but I wouldn't mind seeing her. A polearm fighter would be cool.
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>>378066713
I want to AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (TAP TO SHUT YAP)
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A guy can dream can't he?
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>>378057153
>I'm sure they're gonna want to bring out a new Smash Bros somewhere down the line in the Switch's lifetime.
>Assumptions
Also why not? That way they don't just half ass a title name instead of actually trying for Smash 5.
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>>378046228
I feel like an arms rep and splatoon rep with ice climbers returning

What I actually want is chibi robo, bomberman, or shantae but it won't happen. Although bomberman has a better chance since bomberman r.
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Cranky Kong for smash!
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Smash 4 isn't getting ported. If Sakurai was for porting Smash so directly to save time, Melee would've been ported to the Wii. We'll see Smash 5 in 2020-21. Cap it.
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I personally think they haven't given fire emblem fans enough representation
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>>378067696
amen
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there's definitely not going to be a smash 4 deluxe. they are completely done with smash 4, they don't want anything more to do with it
there's a tiny chance we'll get a tiny tiny glimpse of smash 5 this e3, like to say they've began development. but we won't be getting a new smash any time soon
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>>378067696
>>378067940
Oh fuck off.
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>>378048585
Ganondrof is good fuck you

He could be more different, if that's what you mean.
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>>378067217
I'd be down for Shantae too but it's not going to happen. Also I don't know if her transformations or pirate gear would work better.
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Who should be the new ARMS rep? Spring Man or Ribbon Girl?
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>>378067569
>If Sakurai was for porting Smash so directly to save time, Melee would've been ported to the Wii
Except Brawl came out 8 years since Melee
A better example would have been Smash 64 to Melee. Except back then no one knew how to port shit to other systems like that, so it's obvious they wasn't going to.
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A new DK rep, please sakurai
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They'll just keep ripping off whatever moderately successful IP they get on the switch

>snipperclips duo char
>has been heroes char
>puyo Tetris char
>botw Zelda
>Mario odyssey
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>>378068040
no.
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>>378063701
Redux.

I really like the Sm4sh engine. If there are two things I want for a "redux" it's

#1 Custom Specials WITHOUT EQUIPMENT, online.
#2 More Custom Specials.
#3 More Characters.

That's really about it.
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>>378068372
Don't forget ARMS
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2B
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>>378066868
Not a single one of those characters win tourneys. Not only are you wrong about the game needing balance, you aren't even positing the idea the stronger units need the debuffing.

Moron.
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>>378068629
>wanting them to acknowledge that terrible franchise even more

The assist trophy is more representation than Golden Sun deserves.
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>Deluxe Version AKA No one bought the Wii U so we're re-releasing our shit games

Is there a more pathetic fanbase than Nintendo fans?
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Pic or Duster and Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow.

I gotta believe.
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>>378068247

Animal Crossing originally released in Japan on N64 and was then Ported to GC for America.
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>>378068782
Never ever ever gonna happen. No one, fucking no one, played Mother 3 stateside.

He'll have a trophy you can read a small paragraph about.
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>>378068485
>#1 Custom Specials WITHOUT EQUIPMENT, online.

What's funny is that they actually coded that into the game. Up until July 2016, there used to be a bracket within Regular Tourneys that had a special "custom moves, no equipment" ruleset that was literally nowhere to be found anywhere else in the game (not even in the community tourneys). Then it was shut down in July.
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>>378068629
NO MORE FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTERS
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>>378069037

I played it.
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>>378068227
Both of them a la Robin or Corrin
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I've got Smash fatigue so I'd be fine if they just... didn't release Smash for a few years.

>>378066673
>you will never side-b off the edge as both Xenoblade reps
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>>378069037
Like when nobody knew Marth but it was in Melee anyways.
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>>378068476
Desu I want Celica to replace Robin only because Robin is a slow sack of shit and Celica can do the same magiv fuckery without being the weight of a sack of rocks
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Ice Climbers
Fix the game being slow as shit with magnetic ledges
Don't let half the cast easily recover from the blast zones
Make this fucker decent again
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>>378066792
Only for like a month until she was nerfed

She's still strong but very beatable
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>>378069623
or just remove it
nobody gives a SHIT about jigglypuff in 2017
>b-but japan
no they don't give a shit either
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>>378069503
also she's more kawaii
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>>378069424
1. Fire Emblem was popular in Japan
2. It's been well documented that Marth and Roy were originally going to get scrapped from all western releases of Melee due to their obscurity in the west.
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>>378069809
Let's cut Captain Meme with his dead series while we're at it.
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>>378069769
nice try you bayo subhuman
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Karate' Fukin joe
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>>378068763

dumb hamsterposter
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>>378056707
Well, there's a reason for Puff at least
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>>378069809
Jigglypuff is a unique character with her own distinct moveset and playstyle, why get rid of her? Just get rid of some clones instead, I never get people who want to remove characters that were interesting.
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I just want him to be good.
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>>378046228
I really don't think it's happening this year.
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>>378069940
people actually care about falcon, though
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>>378070308
Me either, Nintendo seems to have a pretty full year so there wouldn't be much room for it.
I'm still of the belief they'd go for a full on sequel than a Deluxe edition, so next year might not be in the cards either.
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>>378067217
>Shantae
Give me one legit reason why Nintendo would even consider putting that next to their brand characters.
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>>378070205
unique doesn't mean good
jigglypuff has been one of the most boring characters in each game, even in melee where she's good
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>>378068227
Spring Man, you moron.
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>>378069109
>NO MORE FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTERS
>character posted is from golden sun

What did he mean by this?
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>>378046228

I hope it's a new one but Sakurai said he was done. So they will either deluxe edition it or have a new team make it.

I'm okay with them making both on the switch honestly.
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>>378063701
smash 5 easy

>>378046228
I hope their e3 goes well, I don't expect much out of a port but we'll see, should be fun

Also, here's a daily dose
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>>378070576
I think the same. Sm4sh had already a pretty long run.
Besides, if the Switch is Nintendo's real deal at the moment they'd probably want to make a new Smash to have a great system seller for it and ultra optimize it since the Switch's main thing is portable local multiplayer.
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>>378070741
she's only boring in melee because edgehogging in melee is fucking broken

if you'd put melee-tier jiggs in smash 4 she'd be fine
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>>378070923
its called a joke, faggot
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I'm kinda thinking it won't happen until next year but here's what I'm hoping for as far as characters go.
>Includes stages from 3DS and Wii U, as well as some new stages.
>New stages include the following:
>Inkopolis Square(Splatoon 2)
>Spring Stadium(ARMS)
>Aether Paradise(Pokemon Sun and Moon)
>Great Plateau(TLOZ: Breath of The Wild)

>New characters are shown off
>Inkling(Splatoon)
>Spring Man/Ribbon Girl(ARMS)
>Mimikyu(Pokemon Sun and Moon)
>Champion Link(BOTW)
>Ice Climbers make their return

>Offline Tournament Mode.
>Adventure Mode makes its return.
>Smash Run and Smash Tour also return.

>The game would release Q4 2017/Q1 2018. There would be patches for the game; and new character(s), stages would be added Q3/Q4 2018.
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>>378046228
I want the single player modes to actually be good this time
I want the gameplay to not be shit this time and for physics to not be gimped.
I WANT WOLF BACK BUT FUCK ICE CLIMBERS AND CUNT DOG AND ROB

Also its going to be shit if hakurai puts his grubby hands on it again. And I won't be buying it.
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Return of Snake, Wolf, and the Ice Climbers I guess
Mega Man X, Shovel Knight, & Chrono
>Vent in Model X takes X's place in Mega Man's final smash
>Zero, Plague Knight, Robo are assist trophies
>Snake's codecs return, & X also has a variant where he will get advice from either Alia, Layer, or Zero

Also they need to buff the puff.
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>>378071398
i HATE rob
rob mains get OUT
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>>378070672
There is no reason moron, its a desire not a prediction
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>>378058582
Seeing as so few people actually bought the wii u, it's not a bad idea.
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>>378071587
If you hate ROB then you can get the fuck out of my face.
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>>378052429
I am actually hoping for this
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>>378071835
i will break your face
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>>378057286
Both littlemacs ko punch and ryus fully charged focus is unblockable, you also have several moves that break shields if shielded like Ganondorfs utilt.
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Post songs that N E E D a Smash remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJEAeZmOqjM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJzc2lj3YdI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jruxjiFSIgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1LJPaYA60Y&t=12s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPdzzRpkE9c&t=116s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0awwyDMFvkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdLdkIzCvgI
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>>378068196
No, he is not good, he sucks ass and has terrible frame data. He doesn't need to be any different he just needs better frame data.
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I want them to improve textures and general performance. It shouldn't be too difficult considering that the Wii U version ran at 1080p 60fps anyway.
Also the general physics should allow for more combos and use teching as originally intended.

>>378071164
The Great Plateau is going to be fuck hueg
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>>378071164
>>378052429
I'm glad I'm not the only one that wants this.
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>>378057153
Implying there hasn't been enough time for this to be (mostly) a new thing
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>>378071962
Most of Rhythm heaven songs
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>>378072001
I had zero problems playing Ganondorf, he's fantastic.
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>>378057153
Easy bro, they call this port for switch, then they give the new one a fighting synonym like "brawl and melee" my bet is on "rumble".
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>>378071962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZboDbgiW4
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>>378072285
I main Ganondorf, I like playing him, but he's still terrible. He;s third worst or something close to it, a step up from Brawl at least but still rock-bottom.
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>>378066713
This right here, they shouldn't scrap the concept enterily
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>>378046228
They wouldn't.
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>>378066868
You have to be a shitter to think Zelda needs a nerf in any way.
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>>378072285
FG stats are skewed as fuck, if that's what you're doing. Slight, always-present, lag makes heavy hitters much stronger on Wi-Fi, which is why especially Dedede and Link are so dangerous there but not particularly offline.
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>>378071962
https://youtu.be/6lmQiqoVo9w

https://youtu.be/McudYg2SqJI

https://youtu.be/iDRR9fGyB4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTziReWJlEo

https://youtu.be/iWO4ff1HXYY

https://youtu.be/VSz1l-0mC0s
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>>378046228
I really don't want this to happen, no matter how much shit they add to it, just make a new game.

Even if it has less characters, I don't care, make it new, have characters from Arms and Splatoon.
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>>378066673
>>378069381
Why would such a niche series EVER get a second character?
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>>378072418
So, what? As a Ganondorf main...what do you want?? "Better frame data." What the does that even mean to you? You admit you like playing him, he's (a) main, but "he's terrible" and "rock-bottom." But he's not???

You aren't playing the top 20 Super Smash Brothers players in the world. Your tourney scene isn't Northern California or Baltimore. It's Lincoln, Nebraska. You play with about 7 other guys once a week. Or you play online, maybe you used to play /v/eekend with us here. So what needs to be "better" about Ganondorf? What about his "frame data" needs improvement? Does he just need to be a clone of Cloud? Like, give Cloud a Ganondorf costume? Okay, maybe he doesn't need a completely new moveset/clone, maybe you think he needs less lag on everything and smaller hurtboxes and larger hitboxes?? He needs to be OP and on par with "SSS" tier characters to win the tourney. That's what's important? Not that you like playing, but that he wins in Sm4sh tourneys and everyone knows it??

He's fine. Great, in fact.
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What can they even do for additional characters? They were already scraping the bottom of the barrel with inclusions like the duck hunt dog, Dark Pit, and the 6 extras from Fire Emblem and fucking WII FIT TRAINER. They even went and included CLOUD. A character that has never appeared on any Nintendo console ever.

I guess they could go ahead and include a character from ARMS, but that would count on that game being a hit which I doubt will happen
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Sakurai needs to fuck off, he's the one casualizing the game and getting rid of the story mode in favor of adding a hundred modes that nobody gives a flying fuck about, wasting resources in them.
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>>378072756
No, I just like heavies and I don't like Sonic and Jigglypuff.
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>>378072819
god, robobot was such a good game
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>>378073149
What? Read my post again, it's about heavies overperforming, not your personal character usage.
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>>378073171
I could probably just fill in an entire post using only Robobot music that would work in the next Smash cause there's just so many good things there but where's the fun in that?
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>>378063701
Smash 5
Smash 4 sucks dick
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>>378072845
>I'd like if THING got in
>Why would THING ever get in?
Fuck if I know. I just know I'd like it/
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>>378073085
>scraping the bottom of the barrel
>included Cloud
People had been CLAMORING for Ryu, Cloud and Goku, are you kidding me?

And Sakurai was the creator for the Kid Icarus games, dude. He'll include as much shit as he can from that series. Remember how Snake had conversations with Col. Campbell and crew on Shadow Moses? He did that with Pit on Palutena's Temple. Everybody remembers Snake's convos...but nobody gives a shit about Pit's. But Sakurai did.
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Reminder that if Faggot Emblem can have 6 characters then ARMS easily can have more then one.

Can we all agree that she should be added? She does the dragon thing sooo much better then Corrin
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>>378073286
Then what on Earth are the "FG stats" you're referring to, if you're not talking about my character usage???
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>>378068227
>should the new character be the main mascot of the game or a girl character?
That's like if you should put Marth or Caeda in Smash
You're clearly going to go with the mascot
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>>378073498
MinMin is a fucking must and I would destroy my Switch if she doesn't get added.

>inb4 only Ribbon Girl and Spring Man

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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fuck arms and fuck splatoon. Pikmin was the last good IP nintendo created
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>>378073498
I mean Spring Man is a given if we're going with ARMS being a thing but that last slot could be a LOT of different characters. The only ones I feel like they could potentially rule out altogether are Mechanica and Byte and Bark. Anyone else could potentially take that slot, and I say this as a Min-Min fan. I feel like we'll have to wait and see once the game fully comes out what's popular, cause I'm leaning towards her, Twintelle for having a completely different setup from Spring Man, or something completely off the wall like Helix or Cobra Kid.
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>>378071164
>out of all of the Zelda and Pokemon characters, who should we add?
>a 2nd Pikachu and a 3rd Link
Why are people like this
Just give Link his BOTW stuff and keep Toon Link the same
Add literally any other Pokemon outside of the character whose gimmick is literally just being Pikachu
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>>378065960
your taste is shit
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>>378073860
I'm almost certain that either Ninjara or Cobra are gonna be Spring Man's Falco.
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>>378073971
End your life pedo
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>>378074128
I wouldn't be surprised by this outcome. Both of them are just different enough to not be considered entirely clones of Spring Man. Part of me would prefer Cobra Kid though, simply because Ninjara's aesthetic might clash with Greninja's, depending on whether he stays in or not.
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I'd buy a Switch version, but I'd much prefer they move on and make a new game. Sakurai is done with the series, which is good because he didn't know what he was doing, so now is the time for a reboot to remove all the characters who are not relevant anymore and make the clone moves more original.
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>>378047298
And ice climbers
Please daddy sakurai
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>>378068934
But that happened within the same time, back in 2001, first on the N64 than promptly to the Gamecube. This again supports my point that it would make more sense to have Smash 64 ported to the Gamecube instead of saying they'd port Melee to the Wii when there was a 6 year gap between them, compared to less than 1 for Animal Crossing 64

Granted I was wrong to assume they didn't know how to port games to other systems at the time then, but still, the only thing you have against a port of Smash 4 to switch was that Sakurai went and made a completely remade Smash Bros within 1 year of dev time. Keep in mind however there is FAR more content added to Smash Bros since Melee so the differences is major by comparison to expect him to do the same for Switch from the last installment, being almost 4 years ago.
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>>378074254
>Greninja's, depending on whether he stays in or not.

God I hope not. He's so.. bleh. They have like 500 wacky looking Pokemon animal creatures and they choose the fucking normal human wearing an Arwing hat.
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>>378073056
>What the does that even mean to you?
>"frame data"
Oh, so you're just completely unfamiliar with how the game works and are now proceeding to talk down to me.

It means I want fewer cooldown frames on his actions. He doesn't need 15+ frames of cooldown/lag after simply landing or using an aerial. Better frame data means faster moves and actions, to put it simply. He could also use better lateral air movement. He doesn't need any of his moves actually changed, they just need to be faster and he needs to be more mobile.
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>>378058257
It already is unlockable though
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>>378074580
cooldown and startup, he could use some faster moves coming out too
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>>378074619
Unblockable*
Freaking autoquack
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>>378074580
So you don't want Ganondorf to have the downsides of being a heavy, like slower speeds, longer recovery, but all the benefits like enormous power in single strikes. You just want to be a little unbalanced bitch.

"bad frame date" my ass. More like, "my favorite character doesn't win tourneys so SAKURAI SUCKS." Git gud, loser. Play me. You can play whoever you want, I'll play Ganondorf. I'll beat your ass everytime.

Don't actually take me up on that,
I'm a thousand miles away from my Wii U.
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Portendo will make this happen.

Idea tank has been running dry in ol' Japan
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Does he even have a chance for a Trophy?
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>>378075026
He's a Namco character so it's possible but he's not a Pac-Man / retro Namco character so it's super slim.
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>>378070205
>Jigglypuff is a unique character with her own distinct moveset
But she was a clone of fucking Kirby
>get rid of some clones instead
Ah, so Jigglypuff. Glad you agree
For real though, with character alts being a thing, NO MORE FUCKING CLONES JESUS FUCKING FUCK. I don't want Girl Marth, Flat Marth, Fire Marth and Waifu Marth to be in the game separately on the fucking roster
>inb4 muh "your original character wouldn't get in over them anyways" meme
Fuck off, it's not about that stupid shit, roster padding is CANCER and is a lazy excuse to make your game look "bigger" than it actually is. Fucking stop, make them switchable alts ala Zelda/Sheik or Samus/Zamus.
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>>378057449
Underrated opinion.
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>>378075152
>was
Oh no, orbs that have 5 jumps and a drill dair
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Zelda Reps for Smash

>Plausible Tier
BOTW Link
Impa
Tetra
Pig Ganon
Vaati
Toon Zelda

>Mid Tier
Skull Kid
Ghirahim
Fi
Groose
Linebeck

>Never-Ever Tier
Lana
Cia
Linkle
Tingle
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>>378075152
>being derived from Kirby in Smash 64 means that they're a clone now
Guess Luigi, Ness, and Captain Falcon all have to get the axe now
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>>378073498
She makes sense to get in alongside Spring Man she is a martial artist after all. Besides Spring Man/Ribbon Girl, I'd say Helix probably has a good chance too.

>>378074254
>>378074464
Greninja isn't going anywhere.

>>378073885
They could add a different Zelda character, but BOTW Link has stuff that could make him completely different from Link and Toon Link. The only things they'd probably share is the Master Sword and using a bow.

Besides Mimikyu, the only other Gen 7 Pokemon I could see getting in are Decidueye, Tapu Koko, Incineroar, and maybe Lycanroc. Mimikyu is probably more popular than all of them though; and it sees more usage than them besides Tapu Koko.
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>>378046228
i think smash 4 can survive way longer if they brought it to the switch, smash 5 isn't necessary for a few more years.
>>378047298
yes please, he was one of my best chars
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>>378070672
You say that when this shit exists now
>Shantae, mascot of Wayforward for like 15+ years, who supported Nintendo and always enjoyed their content to the point some of their gameplay elements make it over to Shantae games, doesn't get in Smash or anything Nintendo but fucking Rabbids do.
>Rayman, mascot of Ubisoft, who has from time to time supported Nintendo and likes cooperating with them too, makes Rayman a FUCKING trophy in Smash but NOT a playable character, meanwhile Rabbids can co star next to FUCKING MARIO in their OWN GAME, but not Rayman.

Nintendo has no standards, they let great quality characters off to the sidelines but let Ubisoft make a game with their IP featuring RABBIDS over Rayman. Fuck Nintendo.
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>>378075152
are you one of those idiots who thinks luigi is still a clone too
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>>378074943
Ganondorf is bottom tier pal, sorry. He's easily juggled, has a lot of trouble approaching in most matchups, doesn't have a whole lot of combo or follow-up potential and is easily gimped off-stage. I love playing him and he's my main but he's bottom tier. Better frame data would change some of that, but not all, I don't think he'd be excellent, he just wouldn't be awful.

If you don't even know what frame data is while you're trying to tell me I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but It's hard to take you seriously. The best characters generally so because they're fast and have good frame data, among other things. Slower characters are generally worse, that "enormous power" doesn't mean much in practice.
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>>378075706
>one of the biggest AAA companies worldwide is comparable to small indie company
Listen, I think Rabbids + Mario is fucking retarded, but you're really grasping at straws here.
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>>378075706
>rayman legends crossed over with mario IP
>nope fucking shovelware IP now
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>>378075362
Where does midna place on your list?
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>>378075907
Rayman is owned by Ubisoft dumbass.
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>>378075929
SMT x FE too mate

im convinced some higher up exec at Nintendo has extreme shit taste to greenlit these things
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>>378075534
>Greninja isn't going anywhere.

Why would he stay?
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>>378076075
I'm talking about the Rabbids and Rayman (Ubisoft) vs. Shantae (Wayforward) comparison.
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>>378075534
>Wants another Link
>Wants another Pikachu
>Wants frog Shiek to stay

Goddamn this shit taste
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>>378075939
Mid tier near skull kid
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>>378046228
I really couldn't care less because it's just going to be a port of Smash 4.
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I wonder if they will finally drop TP Zelda. There has been 2 games already with 2 superior Zeldas.
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>>378075362
>BOTW Link

This meme needs to die
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>>378076112
fuck you, m8

Which reminds me, Sma5h needs some #FE representation.
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Smash 4 is garbage
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assuming it's a port:
battlefield mode for stages, and/or a hazard toggle

make clones costumes, Dr Mario, Lucina, Pichu etc

don't add any characters yet, save them for the next smash and give them a meaningful reveal with no fucking leaks

tweak smash run, if I spend a year collecting stat boosts I want to be able to use them for more than one round
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>>378076180
Well what's your excuse for the Rabbids getting chosen over Rayman?
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>>378076368
I'm so fucking glad that FE can't get a successful spinoff series off the ground. That trash needs to stay far away from Smash
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>>378076501
Battlefield mode already exists for 3DS/WiiU
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>>378076327
But with customs for the DLC characters!
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>>378076630
Omega mode is based on Final Destination, not Battlefield.
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>>378076608
you need this game in your life, my salty friend.
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>>378076535
Ubisoft is fucking retarded, but this doesn't really have anything to do with Smash
We're talking about Shantae vs. Rayman here, not this Mario game
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>>378076928
>still being THIS salty about 20k copies sold

So glad FE is going back to being dead. Weebs belong on Playstation
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>>378063701
Smash 4 is generally perfect, graphics-wise.
Not to mention, we're never getting Ryu, Pac-Man, Megaman, Cloud, or Bayonetta ever again. Why throw them away?
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>>378076938
Ah I misinterpreted you and thought you were defending that bullshit. Apologies.
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>>378077097
It's all good
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>>378076175
Why would he go? He's a popular Pokemon if they bothered to bring Lucario back from Brawl they'll bring Greninja back. He has a bit of a skill gap but he's one of the more fun newcomers to play as
>>378076251
Mimikyu isn't even another Pikachu, it's disguise is based on him but they're completely different besides that.

What other Zelda character would get in? Impa would be "another sheik"
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>>378077224
>Why would he go?

Because he's the standard flavor of the gen. He has no staying power in the franchise. Fuck, they didn't even bother putting him in Pokken.

> if they bothered to bring Lucario back from Brawl they'll bring Greninja back

Lucario is basically one of the core mascot pokemon. That's why he and Pikachu are the posterboys of pokken. Greninja is nothing.

Greninja is simply the Pichu of Gen 6
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>>378063701
smash 5. I was surprised how quickly the hype for 4 died.
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>>378077224
>Mimikyu isn't even another Pikachu

But he is. That's fucking boring.

>Impa would be "another sheik"

Based on what? Also, there's Tetra, Ganon, and something out of left field like Hestu or something
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>>378076938
Rayman is going to be considered something bigger than the likes of Shantae, no shit, but Shantae being "indie" is really presumptuous because Wayforward has been a thing for like 20+ years and Rayman, well, just as long. Wayforward is just a smaller company than others, Nintendo, etc. But Wayforward isn't something so tiny they are just undetectable, many games like that Ducktales Remastered was made by them, they are known within the business of gaming.

Shantae isn't "indie" like Quote from cave story or even Shovel Knight, which branched off from Wayforward but is very new and small by comparison. Shantae is just smaller as a staple to the likes of Rayman for example, but Wayforward is much bigger then people play them off as.
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>>378077063
I'm not salty, I've seen the light.
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>>378075834
Just stop.
I know exactly what frame data is. I know he doesn't win NATIONAL LEVEL tournaments because this game favors small, quick and enormously movement based characters, not the heavy-hitters. I've been playing since the first, it came out when I was 11-years-old.

You think "Ganondorf sucks" because you don't see him win tourneys. But he doesn't suck. Like nearly any character in any of the SSB games, if you know how to play, you can really beat your opponent. There's no Sagat character in this series, it's pretty well-balanced.

It does not matter if the national statistic for Super Smash Brothers 4 Wii U for Ganondorf places him on the bottom-tier for participation and win placement. It doesn't make HIM SUCK, it makes other characters MORE VIABLE. Having "better frame data" means fewer faults with being a heavy character, of course that will make him more viable. But he's not a speedy character; he's a heavy. He has Warlock Punches, meteor dairs, upsmashes of ridiculous strength, uptilts that are seen a trillion miles away but break shields if landed. His charged smashes have infinite launch power, a command grab that is practically cheating given it's unblockable, snipes people from the ledge with great lateral movement and crashes into the pit...and the game considers it his win. His Jab is extremely fast and launches. His f-tilt is EVEN FASTER and EVEN STRONGER with incredible angle for launch.

His "frame data" matches his character. And he's a good character. He's just not fucking Fox. And I don't want him to be. I don't need him to be OP so that suddenly he's "balanced" for some reason.
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>>378077694
>I've seen the light.

Spoken like a blind weeb
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>>378066316
I feel like getting her back wouldn't be too difficult. Bayonetta, Sonic, and Pac-Man were probably easy to negotiate compared to Mega Man, Ryu, and Cloud. Cloud in particular was probably a nightmare.
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>>378046228
All DLC being on-cart.
No updates to any characters or pre-existing stages
Ice Climbers now
4 new stages
That's all.
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>>378077457
Pichu isn't anywhere near as popular as Greninja is though; and he had a horrible gimmick he was just a worse version of Pikachu.

Sakurai hand picked Greninja before Smash 4 came out and since then he's become more and more popular.
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/08/greninja-takes-top-spot-720-pokmon-recent-japanese-popularity-contest/

He's not a clone of any of the other Pokemon and he has his own moveset. I don't know why people would want him to go, that could be said for any character actually. Why would you want any character cut so you can ask for them to be put in as DLC later?
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>throw in cartoons like The Gorillaz and SpongeBob
>
>
Done. This will generate so much anal devastation it'll be unbelievable.
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>>378078226
>Pichu isn't anywhere near as popular as Greninja

UnderageB&
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>>378046228
Deluxe is already Melee's Japanese name, dumb burger.
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>>378078226
>He's not a clone of any of the other Pokemon and he has his own moveset

So? That moveset is bland as fuck. Why waste resources when a more interesting new pokemon could use it?
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>>378078226
So popular that he's quickly been removed from all Pokemon media and wasn't even in Pokken.

Greninja has no reason to stay. He's not even a monster, he's just a bland normal human fighter wearing a frog suit
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ALL I WANT
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is the fucking 3DS stages on a console. Uniformly better than the Wii U stages and I am livid that they're confined to the singleplayer version
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>>378047298
kept
you
waiting
huh

i know kojima is gone but is it really so fucking tough to translate snake's moveset from brawl into 4
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>>378077692
Ok, but she's still not big enough to get into Smash
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>>378077658
That's what I've seen people says shes a sheikah, has a slender build, physically they bare a resemblance to each other. I'm not saying they'd play the same they could play completely different; but Mimikyu has its reasons for dressing up as Pikachu in the games and anime. I could see Ganon getting in maybe.
>>378078294
He's not though.
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>>378068227
por que no las dos?
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>>378078826
>That's what I've seen people says shes a sheikah, has a slender build, physically they bare a resemblance to each other.

There are a handful of Impa with many different looks. They could easily build a unique character. Hell cut shiek and give her moveset to Impa since Shiek is irrelevant as fuck

>but Mimikyu has its reasons for dressing up as Pikachu in the games and anime.

Or we could get something that isn't a lame pikachu rehash like the starter bird. We want characters with UNIQUE shapes, not just fucking mascot rehashes
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>>378047298
Just nerf his bullshit tilts and jab from Brawl and we have a deal.
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>>378078608
Agreed. Most of the 3DS stages are more unique. But fuck the Balloon Fight one.
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>>378046228
Gotta change it up this time. Formula's getting stale.
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>>378075534
I really didn't expect Greninja to get cut since he is both a starter and one of the more popular mons from Gen 6, so he remains as a flagship to the gen, much like we have Lucario being one of the sole reps from Gen 4. Main reason I was curious is a lot of Ninjara's biggest gimmicks (ninja vanish, throwing stars, general ninja aesthetics) are already shared by someone on the roster, so including him would probably get some reused assets and general groans at the fact that he would be considered (even if he wasn't at all) a clone of not one but two characters.
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>>378079212
>I really didn't expect Greninja to get cut since he is both a starter and one of the more popular mons from Gen 6

Squirtle.
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>>378078896
Probably will be this
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>>378079212
If he didn't get into Pokken he's not getting into Smash V. Smash doesn't care about gens
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>>378077063

>Going back to be dead

#FE's performance really isn't an a measurement of how the series as a whole is doing. It's a spinoff that has little to nothing in common with Fire Emblem. Fates is a more accurate representation of the overall performance, which is still going strong.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some Gaiden characters added in. Though they might try and force #FE on us.
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>>378079317
Not him, but Squirtle got cut because Pokemon Trainer was too hard to properly implement and they had to choose one to go with
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>>378078468
But Jigglypuff and Lucario have better movesets?
>>378078572
What Pokemon media the anime? It's still a popular starter Pokemon just because it isn't be advertised like it was before doesn't take that a way. Competitively it's still used in Sun and Moon and has a new form.
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>>378079519
>But Jigglypuff and Lucario have better movesets?

Yes. How do they not?
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>>378079317
Fair point, but Greninja also has the Gen 7 update of Battle Bond to give him something to work with, compared with Squirtle who hasn't changed much from Gen 1. Squirtle also had the innate problem of being tied to a single character and if all 3 got in, people would have cried cast bloat.

>>378079431
I've never understood this, since Pokken had off the wall choices everywhere. Pokken had not one but two characters rocking a ninja motif so it's understandable he didn't get in, plus by the time they had planned out the characters coming out Gen 7 wasn't even at a state to be advertised yet.
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>>378079454
>Not him, but Squirtle got cut because Pokemon Trainer was too hard to properly implement and they had to choose one to go with

They could've added them all. They didn't cut shiek.
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>>378079652
>Fair point, but Greninja also has the Gen 7 update of Battle Bond to give him something to work with

You mean a fucking demo exclusive gimmick? Yeah no. He's not coming back
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>>378079739
I assume Sheik and Zero Suit Samus were bigger priorities
It's like how Ice Climbers could've been done but they couldn't work on 3DS without a ton of work and they weren't a priority to put that much effort in
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>>378046228
Been posting this a lot lately. Realistically, I'd buy the game again if it has all the Wii U & 3DS content merged.

As far as veterans go, I really miss Squirtle and Snake's playstyles.

As far as additions, I know almost everyone listed isn't very realistic. I still want them fuck you.

More than anything, whether its a remaster or Smash 5, I just want Ganondorf to have an franchise relevant moveset. Its fucking ridiculous at this point that Miyamoto hasn't forced Sakurai into that. And yes, I know that'll never happen, but it fucking should.
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>>378046228
I'm hoping Smash gets revealed later.
I obviously want another Smash, but if the next Smash gets announced too soon it's going to ruin everything for me.
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>>378079652
>since Pokken had off the wall choices everywhere

Yet all of the Smash staples got in but Greninja and Puff, and Puff only didn't get in because she wasn't the right bodytype.

Greninja is just another Blaziken/Pichu flavor of the gen forced mascot. He's already been replaced by the green owl in all forms of media. Why would he ever come back?
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>>378079862
Pokemon get cut every game. You honestly think the world famous Gen 1 pokemon or the forced as fuck Lucario are leaving before Greninja?
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>>378079834
My point being they gave him some entirely new gimmick for a new game, just like Charizard did and he got brought back, only difference being frog didn't have to wait 6 games for it. If you don't think he's gonna be brought back just to give him Ash Greninja as a Final Smash you're seriously overestimating the Smash team. It would be so easy to do that them not doing it would be honestly more shocking.
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>>378079890
I would pay money to see Sakurai super smash Miyamoto into the fucking concrete.
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>>378079031
>We want characters with unique shapes, not just fucking mascot rehashes.
Alright that's fair Decidueye, Tapu Koko, and Incineroar would probably work well from Gen 7 but Mimikyu is one of the more popular Gen 7 Pokemon that's why I wouldn't count it out whether you like it or not.
>>378079212
Greninja only vanishes for shadow sneak, and counter neither are that great of moves Ninjara would probably use the vanishing gimmick more effectively.
>>378079431
What does Pokken have to do with anything? Let it have its own roster.
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>>378080135
>My point being they gave him some entirely new gimmick for a demo

fixed.

> just like Charizard

Oh my fuck are you retards STILL comparing blue shiek to Charizard?
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>>378080176
>Let it have its own roster.

That's why all the smash pokemon but Puff and Frogfag got in, right? Because they wanted it to have it's own roster?
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Today, I will remind them.
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>>378079890
>Ridley

never
>>
Shiek/Impa and Ninjara will fill the nimble ninja niche in Smash V.

Greninja just doesn't have a place in Smash anymore, and EVERY Smash has cut Pokemon.
>>
>>378080134
I mean, I hope it's Greninja because he's boring as fuck but he's really popular in Japan
I don't think anyone is going to get cut from the Pokemon crew, but if anyone is, it's probably going to start with Mew2 and Jiggs
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>>378080176
>Mimikyu is one of the more popular Gen 7 Pokemon

That means nothing though. pokemon need to be in a special position to get into Smash
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>>378080232
>for a demo
You DO know you could transfer that thing to the main game, right? Like that was something they encouraged you to do. The fact that it was first seen in gameplay in a demo doesn't really change the fact that it was a pretty big deal. I mean it was so popular that they literally made it the focal point of the anime for a time.

>inb4 the anime isn't canon

I don't care, point is it's popular enough that a simple copy-paste job with a changed Final Smash is more than likely going to happen because a lot of people love that frog.
>>
>>378079638
Jigglypuff is fine. Lucario is just punches and kicks with aura attacks. Greninja is a ninja his moveset is based on hit and run that's how he's supposed to be played. What more could you want? Sakurai based his moveset off concept art they could tweak his moves in a future iteration like they've done for other characters now that we've seen more of him:
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>>378080448
>but he's really popular in Japan

Not really. He'll be forgotten by the time Smash V comes
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>>378080406
>m-muh patterns

Greninja is the single most popular Pokemon in the games primary market. Also anyone who thinks characters are getting cut for a port is retarded.
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>>378080395
Don't forget the retards who genuinely thought Sora or Geno would work a decade ago, either.
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>>378080518
>it was so popular that they literally made it the focal point of the anime for a time.

It was literally just a side story that never went anywhere. Greninja was forced for a short time and now he's done. What do you not get? He has no staying power. He's already become just another forgotten pokemon in the pile
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>>378080624
>Greninja is the single most popular Pokemon in the games

This is bait of the highest degree
>>
>Charizard can cancel blitz for sick baits
Add this and I will buy it.
>>
>>378080493
No they don't Greninja got put in Smash because he wanted someone to represent X and Y.
>>378080232
Do you realize how good that form actually is competitively? You can transfer it into the main games.
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>>378080870
>Greninja got put in Smash because he's a starter

Exactly. A special position
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>>378080870
>TPC
>giving a fuck about competitive autism

lol.
>>
>>378080740
>just a side story that never went anywhere

I mean they do this all the time, ie GS Ball, so what's your point? They dedicated an entire one of these side stories that never go anywhere to a single pokemon and went out of their way to make something unique only to it, a Mega form that didn't require a stone, something only shared by a LEGENDARY. I don't see what your missing here, he's perfect to come back since he'll have something new to contribute from Gen 7.
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>>378080834
Reading comprehension failure at its finest
>in the games primary market

Aka nippon, you baka
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>>378080870
>competitive pokemon
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>>378080947
Sakurai never said he got put in because he was a starter, it was because he'd fit in as a fighter.

I'm surprised you guys aren't talking about how you want Dark Pit to be gone..
>>
>>378081204
>>378081047
You're making it seem like it was only used in the demo, I gave an example that it wasn't people used it in game as well.
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>>378065275
Remember when Rayman Legends was supposed to be a Wii U launch title and then Ubi told Nintendo to fuck off? I bet it had something to do with that.
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>>378080735
>Geno

Sakurai actually wanted him in, nigga.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/mar/06/i-actually-wanted-include-geno-far-back-brawl-sakurai-spills-beans-one-most-requested-smash-bros-characters/

He's not likely but not as impossible as we all thought.
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>>378081107
And yet Greninja has been completely swept under the rug. Also a dumb skin swap isn't enough to justify coming back to Smash.
He's irrelevant. He's done. They're going to move forward and focus on Gen 7 or 8.
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>>378081265
>Sakurai never said he got put in because he was a starter

Because why the fuck would he say that?
>>
I bet most of you guys thought Lucario would be cut coming into Smash 4
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>>378081443
>dumb skin swap isn't enough to justify coming back to Smash
>They're going to move forward and focus on Gen 7 or 8

What a coincidence, he's already got a nice focus in Gen 7 already because of that dumb skin swap. Just like Charizard got a dumb skin swap in Gen 6 and what a surprise, it brought him back and not the two he was connect to. Are you this dense?

>He's irrelevant.

Just like Jigglypuff and that hasn't stopped her ever.
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>>378081525
I don't know Maybe because that wasn't the case? Who knows if Sakurai even knew he was a starter it seems like X and Y was early in development at the time
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>>378081693
>he's already got a nice focus in Gen 7

This literally isn't true.

>Just like Charizard

Oh. It's just one of those retards that kept calling Greninja the new Charizard. lol

You already know that greninja is gone. I'm not arguing with such /vp/ filth
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>>378081693
>Just like Jigglypuff and that hasn't stopped her ever.
>main 12
>ever getting cut

Fuck off with this bait
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>>378081794
>Who knows if Sakurai even knew he was a starter

Do you have actual autism?
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>>378046228
>the only person who is able to warrant enough hype that surpasses Snake, Sonic, Megaman, and Cloud combined.
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>>378081986
>Greninja the new Charizard

What? Why would he be the new Charizard when Charizard is still there? All I said was there was some comparisons to him being brought back and it leading to a logical assumption that it would bring Greninja back to a next game. Reading comprehension isn't difficult, anon.

>>378082060
That's exactly my point though, Jiggly was never relevant, even back in 64, and she's been with the series since Day 1.
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>>378081986
>You already know that Greninja is gone.

Literally no one knows that nimrod, prior to Brawl coming out people thought Ike and Lucario would get cut they both came back. People thought Toon Link would get cut he also came back.
>>
>>378082165
His inclusion was decided long before X and Y came out and his only source material was concept art.
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>>378082242
Mexico would literally explode.
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>>378082242
him for smash and pic related for ARMS
I'd imagine him to be able to switch arms mid-battle by guarding and switching gears. Like how Mummy heals, after a like a second of guarding, he switches to the next set. The base is mid weight. Gear 2 is lightweight and fast and G3 is heavy weight and slow. his downside is that he can only do elemental effects with certain moves, like Red Hawk.
>>
>>378072845
Fire Emblem
Mother
Kid Icarus
Metroid
>>
Smash is completely unpredictable when it comes to characters, I'm surprised people haven't realized that by now. How can you still be so adamant and sure whether a character won't or will come back? Will Greninja come back who knows, he could he could not we don't even know if we're getting a port for Smash 4.
>>
>>378046228
If we get smash dx then it's melee, smash dx is the jp name of melee
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>>378067569
I think 2018 or 2019
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>>378083127
Then they'll just call it "Championship Edition" or "Smash Bros For Switch" or "the game"
>>
>a lot of people are adamant it's gonna happen

Who are these people? Because no official source has said anything, and I highly doubt we're getting another Smash this gen. Nintendo aren't that smart.
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>another effortless port is going to happen

WOW HOW EXCITING
honestly how do nintendo fans live with this bullshit?
>>
>>378083259
Smash for Switch is easy enough.
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>>378075706
>tfw you realize that this is actually a real thing
can we please just fucking forget about the rabbids already
they were minions before minions even existed
>>
>>378083467
Not having Smash on the Switch would be a huge mistake. You can play it on the go, and you can play it on the Tv it's combining Wii U and 3DS which is why a port makes sense.
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>tfw all of your favorite Pokemon are way too off the popularity/relevancy spectrum to get into Smash

i want this thing and its movepool of beams, blasts and booms to collectively sum up into an Octopus-Megaman
>>
>>378083028
>Fire Emblem

sold over a million and is forced as fuck.

>Mother

Itoi is one of the most beloved producers at Nintendo.

>Kid Icarus

Uprising sold over a million

>Metroid

Not niche
>>
>>378082389
>STILL comparing ShiekFrog to more popular pokemon

>>>/vp/
>>
>>378046228

Can't wait to play as Shrek
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>>378079890
>ribbon, red dude from 101 (i didnt play the game so I dont know who he is), inkling, impa
probably be received very well
>toad
I dont want him but I can see why people would
>ridley
never going to happen
if it did then I would cum buckets
>hades
could be interesting
>hw ganon
idk what his name would be but i need him
idk who everyone else is
>>
>>378083680
You can already play it on the go
>>
>>378082614
So you DO have autism
>>
>>378072325
Super Smash Bros HD Rumble
>>
>>378046228

They want to to brake those fisher price controllers so you buy 20 new pairs due to Smash.
>>
>>378082242
>>378083005
would literally never happen
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instead of wanting Pichu back as a joke character, make way for the new king

he's got his own fucking mobile game and song, what a beast
>>
>>378083887
On what the 3DS? It would run better on the Switch.
>>
-Crash Bandicoot
-Agumon
-Simon Belmont
-Jack Frost

Maybe Bomberman if those terrorist assholes didn't bomb Manchester.
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>>378083693
I feel ya. At least he got into Pokken.
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>>378083906
>>
>>378084178
>Agumon

My nigga
>>
>>378046228
How about no smash for the switch
>>
>>378082614
>and his only source material was concept art.

bait
>>
>>378052429
No, you will get twilight princess Link and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>
>>378083906
>>378084316
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynintendonews.com/2014/12/31/sakurai-talks-about-the-inclusion-of-greninja-in-super-smash-bros/amp/
>>
>MonHun on switch
SMASH DELUXE IS PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMED AT THIS POINT
>>
I just want normal Ridley on the roster. Just for one official Smash game. I don't care if he needs tweaked, about a weird purple alien pterosaur looking odd because of said tweaks, and I don't care about him not being able to full on fly due to balance. It's a party game, do fun zany awesome characters. Especialliy if they'd make fans happy.
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>>378084439
>Sakurai would surely tell us EVERY detail of his work!

So you DO have autism
>>
Just give me Inkling, Wolf, Spring Man, and a new Pokemon that's all I want.
>>
>>378085119
Who knows I'm just posting what he said in the interview. How's your night going pal?
>>
>>378084967
ONE TRUE KING
N
E
T
R
U
E
K
I
N
G
>>
>>378066868
Mewtwo's fair is frame 6, nearly as strong as a smash attack, and combos into itself. His only considerable weakness is really just his light weight.
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>>378084967
i want to believe
>>
>>378046228
>mix of the best stages between 3DS and Wii U, with even more returning stages from the earlier games, and a few new neutral stages
>Smash Run except with a few different stages to pick, you can encounter other players in the stage, and there are multiple events to compete in at the end instead of one
>All the DLC so far for free
>Ice Climbers
>Bomberman
>Special right-Joycon with Gamecube button layout
>Good gameplay
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>>378066965
>Not Pious
I am disappoint
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>>378075706
is this you
>>
Isaac
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is there a fighter in Nintendo's catalog who could create shit like walls and platforms to jump off of?

would that be stupid?
>>
>>378086049
>TwilightApple
>Not Rarijack
Fucking pleb deserves to be spammed.
>>
>>378086105
that's the kind of thing I was expecting of game & watch
I'm not disappointed with his moveset though
>>
>>378085970
support trophy ;-)
>>
>>378084967
This used to be my most wanted character until I realized I hate playing as large, slow and heavy characters in Smash. I still think he deserves to be in though
>>
>>378052429
>Up-B: Revali's Gale - sends him flying upwards and then into a glide with the glider
>Side-B: Urbosa's Fury - lightning projectile
>Down-B: Daruk's Protection - pseudo-counter, doesn't deal damage but stuns for a duration based on the attacker's percentage
>Neutral-B: Mipha's Grace - you have to charge it up, takes a fair amount of time and leaves you vulnerable; once it's charged, the next time you get KO'd you revive at 200%
>>
>>378046228
Snake, icies, takamaru, ridley
>>
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You all are small time.
>>
I really don't think it's gonna happen. If it were any other developer I'd think otherwise but Sakurai doesn't seem like the type who is interested in enhanced ports.
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>>378086265
You sicken me
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>>378086346
thank god you're not in charge
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>no Bomberman
>no Simon Belmont
>no Battletoads
>no Ridley
>no King K. Rool
>no Banjo and Kazooie
>no Ghirahim
Instead we get Mario clones, Link clones, two Pits, 6 (six) FE swordsmen and Ganondorf is still a C. Falcon clone
>>
>>378046228
My nigga Wolf needs to come back. Sakurai has fucked him over too many times now.
>>
nerf all projectile users except villager
buff villager
buff meta knight he's cool
give ice climbers
>>
are there even any characters left that would shock/impress? rayman?
>>
New drinking game: gulp down an entire bottle each time a FE character is announced in the E3 reveal
>>
>>378086848
There's a lot
>>
>>378086848
RIDLEY
>>
>>378086848
>>
>>378086848
Plenty, there are hundreds of Wii Fit Trainer-like reveals that could happen
>>
>>378086848

i unironically want Master Chief as some sort of perverse twist of MvC-Iron Man with a dash of Smash-Ganondorf
>>
>>378046228
Not gonna happen. They'd rather use their resources on a Smash 5, and I'd rather they do that too.

It's not like we need Smash 4 on the Switch. I can already play Smash 4 on the big screen when I want it and on the go if I need it.
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>TFW Fire Emblem is your favorite Nintendo series and you enjoy it when they add more FE characters.

Hector when?
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>another DEEELUXE WiiU port that drones will spend 60$ on AGAIN
>>
>>378087078
get out the bbq sauce because you're going to eat your hat my man
>>
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>>378086848
>>
>>378087158
Nah give me Bord over Hector
>>
>>378087287
>Not Cord
>>
>>378087279
dat filename's fighting words
>>
>elmafags
>Xfags
>2fags
>dunbanfags
>meliafags
>"reeee anime"fags
>"nobody cares about xenobloade"fags
>"no waifus"fags
All of you, fuck off and die. Fiora WILL be in Smash 5.
>>
>ssb64 will never have banjo, james bond, and bomberman

feels bad
>>
>>378087158
I unironically want a Smash-like game with only FE characters, maps, songs and items. I guess FE Warriors might scratch that itch a little.

But as long as there are no spear users or axe users in Smash, there will still be room for more FE characters.
>>
>>378087453
I don't remember Fiora being that revealing
>>
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>>378087389
By definition he did get cucked by weebster pandering though
>>
Is there even a port for the GameCube adapters on the switch? If not what's even the point
>>
>>378087732
there are two usb ports on the switch dock yes

not that they'd produce any more though
>>
SSB will never be good again so it doesn't matter.
>>
>>378087732
Stop fucking crying cubefags and learn to play on an actual controller
>>
Sakurai has thrown in the towel
Who do you choose as director
I choose Koizumi
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Is the whole concept of 'stale moves' a good idea?
>>
>>378046228

news

springman or ribbon girl
bomberman
inklings
king k rool
paper mario
pokemon from gen 8
swordfighter from FE

return

ice climbers
snake
wolf
>>
>>378088567
>pokemon from gen 8

lolwut

>swordfighter from FE

Fuck off
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